America’s Breaking Point: Vetting Fails, Fraud Explodes, and Trump Hits Reset

Chapters

• 0:00 Holiday Catch-Up And Set The Table
• 2:44 DC Shooting And Afghan Vetting Crisis
• 11:45 Media Spin And Responsibility
• 19:30 National Guard Response And Heroism
• 26:20 Minnesota Fraud, CDLs, And Governance Failures
• 33:45 ICE Interference And Policing Risks
• 40:10 Lawmakers’ “Refuse Illegal Orders” Video
• 49:30 Military Law, ROE, And Accountability
• 56:40 Venezuela, Maduro, And Airspace Pressure

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:01

The Alpha Code with Clay Nova Starting upon the Newton brought to you by the Alpha Code. And now it's time for the job.

SPEAKER_08: 0:18

Oh, well, hey, my friend. Hey, stranger, I should say. You know, it kind of a little late, but time goes by. I'm like, it's been 500 years. Two weeks. Two weeks, two weeks. I'm not dramatic, am I? No. No. So we were we cheated a little. We talked beforehand, just uh rehashed our our Thanksgivings. Um we both had very nice Thanksgiving. You had a bigger Thanksgiving, I think, than I did. How many people were at your gathering?

SPEAKER_05: 0:41

Um quick math, probably in the 15-ish neighborhood. Somewhere out there.

SPEAKER_08: 0:48

Yeah, that's nice. I think we were probably like 10, 12, somewhere in that range. I mean, the kids take up already four of those numbers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 0:55

Yep, for sure. And and you know, that's the best part is that you know those numbers keep growing as the kids bring in, you know, their significant others and and those sorts of things, it continues to grow and you know, all that.

SPEAKER_08: 1:07

So yeah, it is. It's so nice. And um, you know, the the news cycle had the audacity to keep going on and on while we were gone. I mean, hello, everything is supposed to pause until we can get back and talk about it. Rude. Oh my goodness. Uh, needless to say, there are so many topics that we could talk about. I mean, if we tried to cover everything that's happened in the past two weeks, this would be like a four-hour show. You know, it might be a 24-hour show. We wouldn't do that to you, and we wouldn't do that to us. We uh we've got uh a good selection, a great selection of all the goings on. Uh, here's a little overview of what we're gonna be talking about, guys.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46

Tonight on the show, and that can migrate the network or migrate.

SPEAKER_08: 2:20

Did I even give you a second to speak during all of this? I don't know if I really speak.

SPEAKER_06: 2:26

We're gonna spend a whole hour talking. People get it.

SPEAKER_08: 2:29

I I hit that button. I'm like, did I even shut up for a minute? No. Sorry. I will do better, guys. Clay, I will do better for the rest of this. Um, yeah, because you're usually way more knowledgeable on this stuff than I am. Let's go right with this one. This is obviously uh, you know, one of our biggest topics going on and just uh utterly devastating. Afghan national who came in under the Biden era resettlement surge, and he's charged with killing a National Guard soldier near the White House. Another Afghan was caught posting literal bomb-making tutorials on TikTok. That's a whole other segment of this conversation that is just you know, head shaker. Uh, but now the Trump administration is pumping the brakes on visas, green cards, and asylum from high-risk countries. And of course, the media, mainstream media is calling it an isolated incident, right?

SPEAKER_06: 3:18

Yeah, so um, you know, the the National Guard still uh assisting the DC Metro police in uh you know keeping our nation's capital safe. And unfortunately, two National Guard soldiers, a staff sergeant and a specialist, were standing on a street corner uh when an Afghan national approached them with a pistol, uh shot them both. Um has since uh passed away, unfortunately. Uh the staff sergeant is uh still uh fighting for his life, although I heard today uh has taken a turn for the better. Uh I heard regained consciousness. I don't know if that's true or not. Um, but that that is the quote unquote isolated incident that uh politicians are talking about. Uh the blame game, of course, there was no delay in the blame game. There was the typical reaction of, well, they shouldn't have been there anyway, uh horrific. Um there was the direct Trump put them there, this is his fault. Uh then, of course, there was the uh they they knew what they were signing up for, uh victim blaming. So there was all of that uh in the aftermath. Uh you know, very little, actually none that I saw from the left taking responsibility for or taking blame for. Uh the Afghan national not even shouldn't even have been here. Uh, you know, at least without vetting, which we all know didn't occur in the mass flights, evacuation flights in the waning days of the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan. Um, and so this Afghan national is one of them. Now, we we I am still skeptical. I know there's a lot of photos out there of him of this ID card that supposedly puts him into a CIA um funded, trained, and sanctioned uh special operations organization out of Kandahar. I've heard this, which is why he was supposedly given essentially free passage into the United States. Um I will tell you that those um there are so many photographs of those types of ID cards um that could be absolutely forged, that could be photoshopped, that could be a lot of things. Um, I don't know the the validity of that. Um, I don't know if that's in fact who he was. Right. Um but he was supposedly, if that was who he was, if he was working with the CIA out of Kandahar, running special operations, people said assassination squad, whatever you want to call it. Um that was who he was, and then he was brought to the United States. He has since been radicalized uh since he's been here. Um there were claims of the cry of Al-Akbar uh before he shot the two National Guard members. Um, but he has since been um apprehended and is in custody and has been charged. Uh one count of murder, one of two multiple counts of attempted murder, etc. Um, that's one. And then of course we mentioned the uh the man, you know, given the tutorials on bomb making uh on TikTok or YouTube, wherever it was. I think TikTok is much less regulated. Um he has since been arrested. And then even, oh, by the way, folks, our normal recording time, Wednesday, uh 4:30 East Coast, but even just in the last few hours, there was a report of uh another Afghan ISIS case super uh sympathizer uh who has been arrested in the United States. So we we clearly have a problem. Um and the problem that we have is these tens of thousands, potentially hundreds of thousands of Afghans who were let in by the Biden administration in the fall of Afghanistan, uh specifically Kabul, who have come in unvetted. Um and and so now there's a travel restriction going into place. There will be not just out of Afghanistan, because I don't think there's a whole lot of folks coming into the United States with an Afghan passport at this point, but nations like it with troubled um you know governmental uh conditions, Somalia being one of them. Um but but uh you know I can tell you folks, it it, you know, everybody says, well, why why should they be vetted? Why weren't they they were vetted? They were I I I'll tell you culturally, my experience having spent quite a bit of time in Afghanistan, all the way from the very beginning in 2002, during my last um my last tour in uh what was it, 1213. I lose track. Um and and the running the gamut of the the duties and exposure that I had. Um culturally, the Afghans are are not nationalist. And this is what Americans lose sight of. Their loyalty goes family, tribe, religion, and then maybe national. So being an Afghan, and a lot of them don't being an Afghan has no, it's not even a thing for them. One of the lines are drawn by some European guy, you know, in their minds it doesn't matter. Their tribal lines are more important, their tribal allegiances are more important. Um, so being an Afghan is irrelevant to a lot of so there is no no sense of nationalism, national pride. Um so they they can easily be swayed, they can easily be um their priorities can be shifted. Um they certainly are gonna show no loyalty to the United States, no matter what opportunities have been given to them since they've been here. So do they need to be vetted? They absolutely do. Um, is that difficult to do? Sure it is, because you've got a a nation with not a lot of governmental infrastructure, and truthfully, there's no cooperation that's gonna happen to get background information on Afghans as its fans right now. Right. Um so this is a this is a problem caused directly by the Biden administration, and there is no easy answer to this.

unknown: 8:32

No.

SPEAKER_08: 8:33

Yeah, I was just gonna say there's gotta be, but there really isn't, you know. I guess it's not as simple. Uh I mean, uh maybe it is as simple, at least right now for the time being, doing, you know, basically exactly what Trump is doing and trying to do, which is just halt all of these uh, you know, uh immigrations into our country, immigrations and immigrations into our country because because there is no way to vet these people properly or efficiently, you know, and then even once they're here, you know, because as you said, the part of the questioning here is, you know, was he radicalized before or after? And of course, there are you know, there's some some saying that it was after since he's been here. Regardless, really, like well, whatever the case is, he's been radicalized. So if it was here, then how can you monitor? You can't be expected to monitor everyone who comes into this country to keep checking if they've been radicalized. There's just too many people. So you go back to the whole, well, we need to put a pause on this, then the we just you just have to at this point. It's been it's been just the the wild west essentially of people coming in unvetted. So this is the only solution right now. And of course, that makes the uh that the left go insane. How dare we? You know, and then that's when they like to quote scripture all of a sudden, all of a sudden they know scripture and they're like, Welcome to stranger. Well, obey the laws of the land. How about that? Let's do that first because that's what you have to do. And by the way, that's also biblical.

SPEAKER_06: 10:03

And listen, you and I are not saying that every Afghan is radicalized or that they're horrible people, terrorists, or anything else. Listen, I have a made a lot of friends in my three tours over there. Um, they are, you know, good people generally. However, their priorities are very culturally different from ours, which causes a problem. Um, but there are bad apples in there, of course. Um, and they were released into the wild as soon as they hit the ground. And, you know, bad apples are gonna find each other. So it doesn't take much uh for this to be a cause for concern for the United States. Like we we need to take this seriously as a nation. And if that means that we withhold benefits until they come and report in and we have a chance to the background to vet them, um if it means giving them an opportunity to self-deport to a you know Islam Muslim friendly nation, then maybe we provide that opportunity. Um, I would tell you that if they're from southern Afghanistan, you know, in around Kandahar, members of the the uh Pashtun tribe, that they may have the opportunity to go back, go to Pakistan. They probably have family members um, you know, in that that what would be the southwest region of Pakistan that might take them in. Um, but I there has to be some follow-up. Uh has to be. Um we can't just let this go unchecked and hope for the best. Um, the numbers are just way too high.

SPEAKER_08: 11:19

Yeah, yeah. That that's just overall the most matter of course thing to be doing at this point. And, you know, frankly, anyone who disagrees with that, pound sand, uh, but don't even care, right? Like just go go cry about it then, honestly, because the the safety of our nation and our our people are, you know, they have to be first and foremost. It's that simple. And that there's nothing more to it. And and to your uh point, and I don't know if I in her had heard this, I think I deliberately tuned things out because it'll make me so angry to hit to hear it, the the victim blaming uh that you mentioned. That, you know, you hear this kind of crap all the time. We hear it as law enforcement spouses, law enforcement families, we hear this constantly. Anytime a police officer, in this case, uh military, any any of our protectors and defenders, really, anytime they get injured or worse, killed, that is like one of their top go-to's. Well, they knew what they were getting into, they knew what they signed up for. Yeah, they did know. Thank them for it. How about that? How about thank them for being willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for you, you ungrateful piece of garbage? I can say that because I mean because I can. But you are in a great way. If that is vocabulary, if those are words that come out of your mouth, that is a thought in your head, you are an ungrateful piece of garbage. Period. And I'm I'm standing on that. Yeah, I think that infuriates me.

SPEAKER_06: 12:45

As it should. Uh, and I and I think that that is um, you know, that that attitude, that victim blaming, that blaming the administration, that the it's all that blame shifting away from, you know, really the person to be blamed is that right? And then you go to, you know, uh, the how did he become who he was? You know, how did he get here? Who are his associates? Like all of those things, you know, it it uh the the blaming of the victim, the blaming of the administration, the current administration is trying to clean up this mess for saying, Oh, this card shouldn't have been there in the first place. It's like, okay, well, if they weren't there, we already know what the murder rate was before they were there. You know, let's want to revert back to that and say, well, you know, the you know, people shouldn't have been walking the streets of Washington, DC to be crime victims. Like it's yeah, the mindset is completely asinine, but that is where we are right now, which is shameful. So um let's uh you know obviously pray for and and keep good faith and in that the staff sergeant um who is uh you know continuing to fight for his life, and uh hopefully he can get back up on his feet again and uh give the follow up.

SPEAKER_08: 13:49

I'm sorry, yes, absolutely. I have a question for you. Uh and I don't know if you know the answer to this. You know, as usual, to any kind of major story, something like this, there's uh as we well know, there's like 50 different versions like one of the earliest things that I had uh read was that both had died. Like that was the very early on that that was the report that both of uh these National Guardsmen um were killed. And then, you know, to come to find out that that wasn't the case initially. So I don't know if there's any validity to this. So that's why I'm asking if you heard this. I read that one of the other National Guardsmen who came to their aid, came to their defense, um, was not carrying a firearm. And he actually is that it that is correct, and he all he had was a knife.

SPEAKER_06: 14:33

And that was how he So um the initial reporting, as as I have tried to impart on you over the last few years, initial reports are always wrong. Um and the and the governor of West Virginia got a report that both of those National Guard members had been killed essentially on the spot, or at least once they arrived at the hospital. So he took that report and unfortunately called a press conference with no validation, or was maybe even in a press conference at the time, and announced that the two of them had died. Um, and then of course got the corrected report that they were both still alive, and then eventually um the young specialist passed away. Um, but yes, I've also read the report that in response to the shooting, um, I believe it was a major um who was not either not armed or didn't have any ammunition. And you and I spoke, you know, when this whole thing happened, that one of my biggest fears uh for the National Guard was that they wouldn't be armed properly, protected properly, or wouldn't be given the proper authorities to be carrying live ammunition, et cetera, et cetera. Um why this individual was not armed or not carrying ammunition, I don't know. Um, but I do know his response was to take out his uh folding knife and go after the attacker. Uh God bless him. So he waited. Um my understanding is that the Afghan had a revolver, which typically has six shots in it. Um, and in a in a lull of the shooting, um, he responded and attacked, you know, jumped the jumped the Afghan with a pocket knife, uh inflicted some damage, and then you know, they they balled him up and took him into custody. So um, yeah, good on that guy. Um, depending on how all of this is um categorized, uh, it's very difficult because this may not be categorized as a wartime action, and therefore um the classification types of medals and awards and and decorations that this individual should receive will depend on how they classify this. There is there is something called the soldiers' medal, which um is for act of bravery and usually saving the lives of soldiers not involved in combat. Um so at a minimum, this individual should receive something like that. Absolutely. Yeah.

unknown: 16:32

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06: 16:33

Pretty awesome story, though.

SPEAKER_08: 16:34

Yeah, it is. Yeah, incredible. Such, you know, that's that's talk about bravery. That's what we talk about when we talk about bravery and why we get, you know, certain people like myself and probably YouTube play. I don't like to speak for anybody else, but get really annoyed by anybody referring to being a boy wearing a girl's dress and calling it brave. You know, we we have very different definitions of what constitutes bravery. And um, you know, this this was an example of what I would consider bravery. So yeah. Oh my goodness, let's move on to this shufflehead. Oh man, oh man. He just really steps into it, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_06: 17:10

I thought after the election we were never gonna see him again.

SPEAKER_08: 17:12

I really thought that too. No, no, no. He is uh stuck in the middle of a uh yet another scandal that he cannot spin. Uh a billion dollar, that is billion with a B evaporated into fraudulent nonprofits tied to the state's welfare and food aid programs. Treasury is investigating, Congress is investigating, and whistleblowers say that Wall's administration was warned repeatedly and chose to look the other way. So oh my goodness, go ahead, Clay.

SPEAKER_06: 17:47

Yeah, so um, you know, this was a this was brought up by, like you said, whistleblowers. They they uh on Twitter uh or X or whatever, they used their official blue check Twitter page to tell Governor Waltz that this was going on. Um they also went through normal whistleblower channels and it was ignored. And so we've got a couple of things going on for old Tim Waltz. One of them is this um healthcare fraud that's going on. Um, and then you know, when something looks and smells bad, people start digging deeper. And so now we've got uh the transportation secretary has looked into driver's licenses, and now they're talking there has been, you know, thousands of CDLs given illegally uh to people who shouldn't have a license, right? Which we have we saw that crackdown in California. Now you've got the same thing going on in Minnesota. Um, and you know, at first the administration could have said criminal activity, right? And blamed it on criminal activity. But again, the more you scratch, the bigger, the deeper you dig, and the more things you find, we find out that this is ineptitude bordering on criminal activity. In other words, you know, negligence and willful misconduct, where they said, Yeah, we know what's going on and we're just gonna look the other way. Um, so the state government of Minnesota is uh in in deep, deep doo-doo. Yeah, big time.

SPEAKER_08: 19:08

What did he have? I know it was a different flag. Wasn't there a big thing? And I know we shared it too. He had when he did that, you know, whatever was speech or recorded speech, he had the state flag. And wasn't it a Somali flag behind him? Or was it it was another nation? I know that.

SPEAKER_06: 19:25

I remember and we'll have I'll have to look at this, but I saw something today. I I was not aware of this, and and I and I got distracted by other things because it seemed mildly ludicrous or somewhat unimportant, but maybe it's not. That the Minnesota state flag has been replaced. They have had a new version of the state flag, which looks very much the Somali flag is very basic. It's blue, blue field, white, white star on it. The new Minnesota flag, the old Minnesota flag was very ornate, had the state skill on it, um, but it has been replaced by I think two shades of blue and a white star. It looks very similar to a Somali flag, it's very, very simple. Uh, but yes, that that has not been lost on many, many people.

SPEAKER_08: 20:06

Yeah, yeah. There's some great memes out there. There's one uh from that movie with the Somali pirates and uh him, that really skinny, skinny guy, and uh it's him saying, I'm your governor now. And I was gonna I was I I was gonna put it up, but I was like, maybe not.

SPEAKER_06: 20:22

Yeah, I this is you know, there's two sides to this argument, and you you can't ignore both of them because you have one, which is that this is a heavily Somali-driven um fraud operation that's been going on. Yeah. Uh, you know, there are a number of benefits that have been taken taxpayer dollars out of the state of of Minnesota that have been funneled through and sent back to Somalia to Al-Shrabaab or some other terrorist organization. Um, so you've got that. And then my understanding is that most of these CDLs, very much like California, that have been issued fraudulently, illegally, have been um issued to Somalis uh and and non-American citizens. Um so you could say that there's you could blame the Somalis for the fraud. Sure. But again, the more you dig and the worse this smells, it all points back to some sort of cooperation or at least you know, understanding or denial or acceptance by the state of Minnesota to allow this to happen, these things to happen. Um, and it just is this this Somali dense Somali population that is uh conducting these illegal activities. And and Minnesota has just said, that's cool. We're right. Right, right.

SPEAKER_08: 21:30

I just I want I want to see these officials' bank accounts. I'd like to know uh I'd like to know what their their earnings are at this point comparative to their uh you know income from their job.

SPEAKER_06: 21:42

I'd like to know, you know, what uh throw throw one more thing on there, and I know this one will irritate you being an LER spouse. The sh the uh chief of police of Minneapolis, have you seen this? I have not had a press conference uh and said if when you see ICE, call 911 and the Minneapolis Police Department will go and arrest uh ICE agents, they will go in, you know. So this is essentially docs ICE by calling 911, right? And then the police are supposed to react and then go inter interject, interdict ICE agents from doing their job. This is the chief of police. Wow. Um, where the chief of police was like, listen, we're just not going to enforce anything. This is an active role in denying ICE, you know, their job. Um absolutely disgusting. It it is, and it's putting police officers in a very, very dangerous position because if they go and interdict ICE, they go and try to attempt to arrest or detain ice, at some point there is going to be conflict. And when I say conflict, I'm not talking about grown men yelling and screaming at each other. Somebody is gonna lay hands on somebody else and it's gonna get ugly.

SPEAKER_08: 22:58

Very, very ugly. Yeah, yeah. This is uh not not good. And you know, you have people like this guy and his little seditious six basically being the dog whistle blowers for all of this and so much more going on. Um I this was you know, the only thing more jaw-dropping than them making this video is the people defending it and basically saying, well, they're only they they sent illegal orders. Well, you know what? Shut the hell up. Seriously. Like, give me a give me a break. Either you're playing dumb or you're that dumb to not be able to read through the lines here. So uh we we'll play it so everybody can see, just in case you've missed it. Senator Alyssa Hopkins.

SPEAKER_04: 23:45

Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Deluzio.

SPEAKER_07: 23:47

Congressman Maggie Gulini, Representative Chrissy Houlihan.

SPEAKER_04: 23:50

Congressman Jason Crow, that was a captain in the United States Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and army ranger, former intelligence officer, former air force. We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

SPEAKER_07: 24:02

We know you are under enormous threats and pressure right now. Americans trust their military.

SPEAKER_04: 24:06

That trust is that risk. This administration is hitting our uniform military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens. Like us, you will score no right now. Threats to our constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

SPEAKER_07: 24:23

You can refuse illegal orders.

SPEAKER_04: 24:24

You must refuse illegal orders.

SPEAKER_07: 24:26

No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our constitution.

SPEAKER_04: 24:29

We know this is hard, and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant. But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, your vigilance is critical.

SPEAKER_07: 24:37

No we have your back. Because now, more than ever, the American people need you. We need you to stand up for our laws.

SPEAKER_04: 24:43

Our constitution and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up the ship.

SPEAKER_08: 24:50

Well then. Um, so first of all, Mark Kelly is gotta be like the angriest little troll man from under a bridge I've ever seen. Like, I don't know why he's the most miserable man on the planet, but he clearly is. Um that they sat down together and were like, this is a really good idea. I think we should make this video. Uh, everybody read your lines, because they're, you know, all clearly reading off their little script there. Um, and let's put this out there. And I'm sure nothing, nothing bad will come of this, you know, feels like a really great idea. What the heck were they thinking? And doubling down, by the way, the uh what's her name there? The one that went back now after and said that um she cited a few good men as her as her backup. Like they asked her, like, well, what what's what are the illegal orders? What what illegal orders are you specifically referencing? And she's like, Well, you know, uh it's like a a few good men, and that was it. Okay, because I know you want to go off on this. Go.

SPEAKER_06: 25:52

Yeah. So here here is the most dishonest part of all of this, um, which is saying a lot because there's a lot of dishon dishonesty going on here.

SPEAKER_01: 25:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 26:00

So the orders that they're talking about, there have been no illegal orders given. Okay. And they've been asked, including Mark Kelly, have been asked in a public forum multiple times can you give us an example of an illegal order that's been given? There have been none. They can give no examples. Here's the other thing that people, unless you've been in the military, and really unless you've been in the military in the last 20 years, people don't know or don't realize. Every single year, every service member is briefed by their chain of command and or a JAG attorney, and they are briefed on the code of conduct, what used to, what is now the law of armed conflict or the law of land warfare and the Geneva Convention. Okay. Everybody knows the rules. They know illegal and moral, unethical orders are not to be followed. Okay. Everybody knows that. Now, when you go on an operational deployment, you are also briefed. Number one, you're re-briefed on law of armed conflict, code of conduct, and the Geneva Convention. But then you are also briefed on very specific directives for the operation or the theater that you're in. So if there are any rules of engagement, if there are escalation of force, if there's directives by the commander, you are briefed these things again by your chain of command and by or by a JAG attorney. Okay. So everybody knows those. Everybody in the last year has been given those directives. Why six members of Congress think that they need to come over the top and re-uh-emphasize those things is part of the dishonesty. Also, the people who are giving the orders, quote unquote, um, illegal orders, are all flag level, meaning general officers or admirals, are the ones giving these orders. Those individuals are all confirmed by guess who? Congress. Those same six individuals are part of the body that confirms, puts trust and confidence into those flag officers who are supposedly giving illegal orders. So who is responsible? Right. Congress is, right? If there's a problem with one of these people giving illegal orders, Congress is responsible for come for confirming them and putting them in those trusted positions. So those six people, and and as they say, oh, we're just saying it just in case.

SPEAKER_00: 28:12

We're just saying.

SPEAKER_06: 28:13

We're just saying we're just saying it. One, no need to. Two, if there are illegal orders being given and they're being given by admirals and generals, you are the people who put those those individuals in those positions. So all of you, shut up. Seriously. Stay in your lane, right? Get get out of the way. And I know everybody's going to talk about hexit and this story about two strikes on a boat, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let me tell you something. And I know people don't want to hear this, but I spent a lot of time in combat over the last 20 years. And anybody who spent any time in a joint operations center watched Apaches fly back and forth until they were out of ammunition, you know, watched A-10s and close air support and all this stuff come in. And listen, war is an awful thing, and we killed a lot of people. And that's what's going on here. This is international waters. These are terrorist organizations, terrorist-designated organizations, and we are eliminating a terrorist threat to the United States. I know people are going to say, well, there were two survivors. Who, first of all, the first story said that they launched SEAL team six to go kill these two survivors. Unbelievably untrue. And then they said, oh no, they made another pass with the drone, and there was another strike. Okay. Well, they were no longer a threat. Not true. Law of armed conflict. Right. They are still, they are still a threat. Okay. So all these former Jag attorneys, retired army officers and senior military officers and senior enlisted guys who are voicing their opinion because they don't like the administration, they don't like Secretary Hegzett, they don't like President Trump. They don't like what's going on. They all need to remember what they've been doing for the what we collectively have been doing for the last 20 years. That they were all a part of, by the way. But there's an entire administration, the the Department of War, Department of Defense, whatever you want to call it, and a Litany of attorneys who have checked all of this out. And by the way, folks, it's all legal. Otherwise, we wouldn't be putting it on freaking television.

SPEAKER_08: 30:08

Yeah, exactly. I mean, come on, use some common sense, will you? Like, really? You think they're gonna just go flaunting illegal acts for everybody? Give me a break. Stop being so stupid about this, about everything, really. And you know, and then to play dumb like this with the what we're just saying, you know, you know, going back to, of course, the you know, defy, don't defy uh or defy illegal orders, blah, blah, blah. Uh give me a break. You banked on the absolute fact that the average citizen would not know the things that Clay just shared. I certainly didn't know those things. I mean, I I knew some of it because I had to research for this topic, but before that, I don't know. So if I don't know and I'm not willing to look it up, I'm gonna watch that and automatically make those connections that, oh, that must mean that Trump is or making illegal orders for our military, and that's really bad. So now I have to be angry about that, and it's another thing to be mad at Trump about. I I don't need to research it because these people told me, and you know, they seem really official and they know what they're talking about. So why would they lie to me? And now I'm gonna go tell everybody I know that, you know, Trump is is uh you know giving illegal orders to our military and they should fight. You know, I mean, they knew exactly what was gonna happen, which is that, which is exactly what is happening. Everyone, you know, who's on the left or just simply a Trump hater, uh, is running with this and calling it fact and telling everybody else, you guys, this is what they freaking do, and it's so disgusting. And I hope whatever action, legal action that can be taken against them. They're looking into um something with Mark Kelly. What are they looking at? Let's see.

SPEAKER_06: 31:48

So Mark Kelly, because he is a retired officer and he's drawing a pension, the service secretary, him being a Navy, former Navy officer, retired Navy officer, the secretary of the Navy can recall him to active duty as long as he is drawing a pension. And then they can at least conduct an investigation. Um, they can prefer charges for court martial, et cetera, once they bring him on active duty. Um and Secretary Heggsith um did send a memo that he put on X that people are not happy about this either. I've seen a bunch of lawyers jump in on this too. Um, you know, he sent a memo to the Secretary of Navy that said, hey, you know, uh former, you know, current congressman, former captain, maybe Captain Mark Kelly is potentially doing some some illegal, you know, activities. Um, you probably need to look into this and report back to me. Sign exit, boom, and it goes, right? Listen, the SecWar, Sec Def has been communicating with service secretaries on stuff like this since there's been a department. This is nothing new. The people are upset because he put it on Twitter. Okay, well, that's how this, that's how this administration operates. And if you haven't put it on Twitter, they would say, Oh, he's doing it in secret, you know.

SPEAKER_08: 32:53

Exactly. Yeah, there's literally nothing they can say or do this administration to appease or please um you know this proud.

SPEAKER_06: 33:00

Yeah. And so so, like me, I'm in the same situation. If I did something that caused the government to, you know, question me, I'm a retired army officer, I'm drawing a pension. If secretary, if you know, and I've not been so supportive of Secretary Exit, but I haven't done anything like what Mark Kelly's doing, right? Right. So, but if I pissed off Exit, he could send a memo to the Secretary of the Army that says, hey, recall Novak back to active duty, tell him to shave his beard and get in uniform, and we're gonna we're gonna have some words with this guy. I that's like don't you dare.

SPEAKER_08: 33:31

You can't take my co-host. No, sir.

SPEAKER_06: 33:33

No. But all of us, all of us former who are drawing a pension officers, up to I think it's 62, it might be 65, um, but you can be brought back on active duty uh at the discretion, not even of the Secretary of Defense or Secretary of War, but of the service secretary. So uh whoever you belong to, whoever signs your retirement checks, um, that's that's who can bring you back on. But I I actually think that they should. I really do. Uh, and I know that that's not uh popular opinion with a lot of folks, um, but I I think Mark Kelly has done this and he hasn't uh, you know, he's continued to push buttons and I think this is a point where he does need to be recalled. And I and I think he does need to be investigated. Um and I know he'll put up a stink and he'll say that he's being targeted and all of these other things. But the reality is that if you remember, the for the last four years before President Trump got into office, what did we hear? No one is above the law. No one is above the law. And that includes Mark Kelly. That's right. And and I think that what he is doing is by definition sedition. And I think he should be put back in uniform, and I think he should stand in front of the chain of command, and there should be an investigation. Yes.

SPEAKER_08: 34:42

Yeah, I you know, I hope they do it. I hope they I hope they don't just make a lot of noise, shake their fists, and threaten things. Just do it, just do it. You know, I don't I don't really care about all the crybabies crying about it and saying it's not fair and it's targeting and blah blah cry again. What do I love to say, everybody? Cry harder, cry more, call. Don't care. Yeah. That's all do it, do it, do it. Because that what they just did, you know, uh to say that it was not helpful to anyone or anything, is the understatement of the week, you know, or of the day, because there's lots of understatements. But uh yeah, how does I you know I have a weird little side note. Maybe it's nothing, maybe it's something, and maybe you have some insight on it. I noticed that they left out the Marines.

SPEAKER_06: 35:24

Did you notice our Marines? That's why. Oh no that was there, none of those.

SPEAKER_08: 35:30

Oh, so they just addressed like their branches. Oh, okay, thank you. Yeah, there were no Marines in that crowd. Yeah, and that I thought it I thought it was maybe because the Marines would just all tell them to go delete themselves. You can tell I'm married to a Marine, right? Like, you know, I gotta be like, well, you know, they're so badass that technically the Marines fall under Department of the Navy anyway.

SPEAKER_06: 35:49

So I know, I know, but no, it's if they're none of them are Marines. Okay, one intelligence officer and five uh former military officers, and the only one who's actually a retiree is Mark Kelly, which is why he is the only one who could be called to active duty.

SPEAKER_08: 36:02

Oh, okay. All right, that makes sense. Oh my goodness. So we'll keep watching that. If uh, you know, maybe if we're lucky, we'll get to report on his uh hearing. Would it be like a public hearing like they do? No. Or that'd be private. Oh, okay. Well well, I'd like to see it. Yeah. That's okay. Uh, let's move on to this guy right here. Oh my. This is always a thing, right? Uh so Nicholas Maduro is still pretending that last year's election meant anything. Conservative outlets, foreign governments, even some regional left-leaning governments said that the whole thing was a fraud from top to bottom, which we've known that all along, or we've discussed that all along. Uh, the opposition candidate Edmundo Gonzalez was the real winner, and now he's in exile. Uh, Maduro responded by cutting ties with countries that dare to point out the obvious. So fun times over there, huh?

SPEAKER_06: 36:48

Yeah, I mean, you're talking about what was the wealthiest um and most uh up-and-coming uh nation in South America uh less than 15 years ago. Yeah. Uh and and then they said, very much like a few really not smart people in the United States, socialism's a great idea. And so they went to a socialist government, and uh now literally I've read two accounts where um retire uh retirement pension checks are in the 50 cent range uh per week um because that's what that's what can be afforded put out. Um the value of of their money is essentially zero. Um so even that 50 cents is worth nothing. Um via vehicles are worth nothing because nobody can buy them. Houses are property value is worth nothing, um, etc. They even did a um holiday, like uh uh I don't know if you saw this. There's some pictures. It was like a Thanksgiving-ish kind of meal where they had these government officials and their families and they took pictures of them and they all looked very happy. But if you look really close, the meals, all of the food on the place is like is like plastic fissure price. It's all they couldn't even, yeah. Um, and so anyway, so Maduro's a part of this. We all know that he's in the cartel chain of command, essentially. Um, and this is all stemming from really us sinking all these boats in the in the you know the Caribbean. Um and you know, there's been an exchange of words between him and President Trump. Um, he's doing some you know face-saving saber rattling, and uh they tried to refuse the repatriation flights uh of Venezuelan illegal immigrants. Um and then President Trump said, Okay, fine, we're just gonna close your entire airspace, which you know drew a lot of attention because those who saw it on the economic side that said, Oh, well, that's just a blockade. Um, but but people from the defense side said that's clearing airspace for drone and bomber strikes potentially to go into Venezuela. And so Maduro, Maduro knew that, and his military advisors told him that. Right. And so he panicked. Um, and then there was a phone call between him and President Trump where a lot of things were discussed, but really not a lot was done. The phone was hung up, and then Trump basically said, Hey, just shut the airspace down. And then Maduro panicked and he called him back and he wouldn't answer the phone. Um, but there has been open lines of communications re-established. Um, and so basically what President Trump has said is leave, pack your stuff, take your family, get out. Um the people of Venezuela have been clamoring for. Right. Um the the problem is, and he he's one of his conditions is he's actually asked for amnesty, global, global amnesty um for for everything that he has done. Now, it'll be interesting to see because I think that he's kind of selling out the cartel leadership by being like, hey, if you just pardon me and let me go, right cool. Um, so they may take care of business down there.

SPEAKER_08: 39:36

I was gonna say, I'm sure we'll be reading about his execution any day now then.

SPEAKER_06: 39:40

Make things very, very simple.

SPEAKER_08: 39:42

Yeah, and this is the way they deal with things there.

SPEAKER_06: 39:44

So as we play this, you know. And and for everybody who's worked up about this and thinks that this is um, you know, essentially illegal, immoral, unethical, we did this in 1989, by the way. Um when we jumped in, you know, invaded Panama in 1989. There was no like literally paratroopers in the errors when Congress got told it was happening. Okay. And this was to eliminate a dictator, Manuel Noriega, right? There was some Americans that were in jail that were freed. Um, but it was to eliminate him as a dictator, free the the country of Panama, et cetera, et cetera. Um, this is the same thing. So um, we've done this before. It's not new news, but people are gonna get worked up about it because it's 2025 and not 1989. Right, right. And it's Trump and you know, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_08: 40:28

You know, I just, I just before any of this happens, I just really, really wish we could just scoop up all those little democratic socialists, put them on a plane on a one-way trip, and let them spend some time there and see how well their their nice, friendly, lovely, kind socialism works. You know, how it really works. I mean, the obviously we all should really know this by now, but apparently, you know, their their idea is that, well, we're gonna do it better.

SPEAKER_03: 40:58

It'll work here.

SPEAKER_08: 41:00

It'll work here, you know. Because we're calling it democratic socialism. So that's different, you know? Yeah, how about that?

SPEAKER_06: 41:10

You know, what do you what do you know about it? Your family being Cuban and Oh my gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 41:14

I mean, it's not like it's not like my you know parents and grandparents uh you know fled those countries from from this, you know. I'm sure you guys can make it work way better. City, let's let's talk about New York in uh, you know, a year or so. Hopefully there's enough uh uh opposition there to stop that from becoming what they're trying to make it become. But oh my goodness. Speaking of slight segue, did you see how angry they all were that um uh mom Donnie went and visited Trump? Did we talk? We didn't even get a chance to talk about that. We didn't because it was happened during our our little break, though. I I posted like probably one of the funniest pictures, to me at least. It's it was a picture of uh the two of them side by side, and mom Donnie is like leaning in, and Trump is, you know, and you see it was very, very funny. Yeah, people had a lot to say about that. But yeah, they did not like that he went to spend some time kissing the ring of King Trump.

SPEAKER_06: 42:14

Well, you know, and I know that the there's the the top of the food chain in a socialist government is never.

SPEAKER_08: 42:21

Right, never ever.

SPEAKER_06: 42:22

Right, never ever. And momdani knows that. You know, he's gonna he's gonna be just fine. Uh the people of New York and the city are gonna suffer. Who you will be just fine in the mayor's mansion, uh eating very, very well in all of those things, just like in Maduro, it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_08: 42:35

So yeah, that's always the way it is, always the way it is. And if these people would just get this through their thick, silly little skulls, we wouldn't have to have these conversations anymore. Um, but you know, so that was a recent election. Let's talk about this here. Whoa, how about that? How about it? Uh, let's see. I skipped over. Did I skip over? I'm looking at my notes, guys. Don't be judging me because I'm looking at my notes. Um Tennessee's 7th district just wrapped up its special election district. It's a district that Trump won by over 20 points. This should have been an easy glide for Republican Matt Van Epps. Instead, Democrats poured in money activists and national support behind progressive organizer Afton Bain. I probably pronounced that wrong. That's what I mean. Um yeah, thank you. Um, but he did win, of course. Thank goodness. Uh, but uh that does seem to be kind of a wake-up call for conservatives that we cannot sit back quietly. Like we you gotta be aggressive, you gotta be yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 43:32

She was she was winning. Uh um some thankfully the internet did what the internet does, as I like to say. Um, and some things resurfaced from her her past where she really talked horribly about Nashville. Um I I really, really think that that very lucky for the GOP, yeah, but I think that that lost her. She didn't lose the election until the last probably 72 hours. Um and and for those not following, what she said was all of the things that make Nashville Nashville, right? The pedal bar, you know, the the honky donks and the country singing and all of those things that make Nashville Nashville, she said she hates about Nashville.

SPEAKER_08: 44:12

And then she denied saying it, even though it's it's it's recorded. There's proof, it's recorded. You can watch it, you can hear it, you can see it. There's proof.

SPEAKER_06: 44:20

And and I saw an interview, some man on the street interviews where you know the younger, that the targeted progressive, that age group, right? That whole like you know, 18 to 32 window, um, we're all like, well, you know, people change, and we all have things that we wish we didn't say, and all this other stuff. And then I talked to a couple of older folks from Tennessee, and one guy was like, I don't know how stupid you have to be, but she's not gonna change when she gets in off, you know, and he just called it like he saw. Um but that district thankfully uh went to Van Epps, is that his name? Yeah, Van Epps. And uh, and you know, who's a who's an army guy, um, by the way. And uh, and and thankfully he carried that. So um, but but I I do think the GOP got lucky. I really do. I think had that not resurfaced and gained some traction in the media, I think she probably would have won.

SPEAKER_08: 45:09

Yeah, yeah. It's it, you know, it's really scary because this is such a familiar pattern that the the right tends to just kind of sit back and count their, what is it, count their chickens before they've hatched and and just expect that they're going to win because they've won before or because they, you know, come just wake up and and every every election should be treated. And I don't care how many years or how many elections have been, you know, in the bag, so to speak, um, treat it every single time like you're fighting for your life. Like every single time, every state, every election, treat it like you're fighting for your life. We need a uh Scott, I don't know if you know who he is, but we need a uh Scott Presley in every state. Like if we could just clone him and put him in every state, that the man is is tireless and you know, in just incredible. And we need more like him that are just going around his um, if you don't know who he is, you can follow him on uh on X, I'm sure on other platforms too, but I think he's the most prevalent on X and maybe Instagram. Uh he goes by the persistence is um his username, his handle. And uh he's a pretty incredible guy. He's he's out there just day after day, week after week, month after month, um getting people to vote, you know, getting them out there. And uh it's pretty impressive. And and we need more like that. We need more people doing that, and we need more people taking it as seriously as he's trying to tell everybody to take this. And this is a great example of that, you know?

SPEAKER_06: 46:38

Yeah, and and uh you're right. This is uh we have to take all of these seriously. I think there was a surge at the end, but but spurred on by her own, you know, her own words. Um and and I know there's a lot of people who are kind of shocked by this because they're like, Nashville, you know, that's you know, very conservative and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, it's not though. Like there have been so many people. Nashville is like a microcosm of Colorado. Um, you know, there's been a lot of, you know, used to be very red, very conservative, very southern values kind of place. And then people left places like New York and Chicago and all these other places and moved to Nashville, and they brought their crap with them. So it's a very, very blue city, um, and and dominates that specific district. So it is that telltale, you know, um, you know, how things change with the population and how people drag their values into a place and they can flip it, like you're talking about. We have to be, everybody has to be diligent and participate in the election. So um, thankfully, this one got pulled out in time and it wasn't close. I mean, it was about eight points. Um but I think that that up until the end, I think it was very close.

SPEAKER_08: 47:45

Yeah, that's scary. That's scary. You can't uh can't rest on it for sure. Not in this day and age by any means, because they not only do they play the long game as we've discussed many times, they play dirty, they play hard, and they play to win.

SPEAKER_03: 47:58

Yep, for sure.

SPEAKER_08: 47:59

They're they're playing for total domination. So about right, you know, come on now, gotta play the same game, unfortunately. I mean, it's exhausting, and I'm glad I'm not in it that way to do it because honestly, I don't I don't have the wherewithal for all of that. I have it to tell everybody else to do it. How about that? Oh, oh come on, let's go into a fun one here. I love this one. I just, I just, I just love it. I love it. Here's um, I'm not even gonna be able to read it on here if uh if I can see it. Yeah, I can see it. So I'll read it for anybody who is um listening and not watching. Uh, President Trump had put out a tweet or a truth social. Uh, he said any documents signed by sleepy Joe Biden with the auto pen, which was approximately 92% of them, is hereby terminated and of no further force or effect. The auto pen is not allowed to be used if approval is not specifically given by the president of the United States. The radical left lunatic circling Biden around the beautiful resolute desk in the Oval OSS office took the presidency away from him. I am hereby canceling all executive orders and anything else that was not directly signed by Corcad Joe Biden because the people who operated the auto pen did so illegally. Joe Biden was not involved in the autopen process. And if he says that he was, he will be brought up on charges of perjury. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I like how he ends every thank you for your attention to this matter. Um, yeah, woo. Um, so he says in his tweet, I'm just gonna call it a tweet, guys. Um, he says effective immediately. I I I had questions as to whether can he do that? How like how much has this been, I I guess, investigated? Like you would have to go through each and every single one and done all of those like comparisons of like where Biden was at the time of the signing, you know, all of the things. So I I guess if they've done that for every single one of these, I guess he was within his power to do it. I mean, I guess he can't say it unless he's within his power to do it, right?

SPEAKER_06: 49:59

Well, so because none of them are law and they were all executive orders, um, he can do it at his discretion. My my only curiosity in this is commutation of sentences. Um, so pardons and commutation of sentence. So if he pardons someone or commuted their sentence who was in prison and is now rescinding those, are those people going back to jail? That's that is my my number one question, right? The legality of all of the rest of it, I mean, you can overturn executive orders anytime you want. I mean, that's why law is the way to go, right? You always want those things to be made into law because then you've got Congress's backing.

SPEAKER_01: 50:42

Right.

SPEAKER_06: 50:43

Um, but anything else, if it's just signed by the president, then the next president can undo it. It's that's you know, that's how we've been playing the game for a little while. But the the pardons and the commuting of sentences is the one that I am very curious about because there's probably some folks right now who got let out of jail or or you know, whatever who and I'm not talking about the Millie and the Fauci and the entire Biden family who got the pre-pardons, yeah, even though they didn't do anything wrong. Um, not them, but the folks who actually were uh pardoned or had their sentence commuted who were in prison. Um like how does that work? Because there's some folks right now that are like packing their stuff and heading to Mexico to get out of here. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 51:25

Oh, yeah. I mean, there's there there's a a lot to unpack with that technically. Like, there's so much going on with that. Like you mentioned Fauci and the Biden crime family and all of them with the pre-pardons. So that's all null and void, too. So now can they be charged and prosecuted for things? So yes, that's a yes. Okay, uh awesome. Um, so does that mean we're gonna be seeing subcharges coming up soon? I mean, who knows, right?

SPEAKER_06: 51:50

Yeah, I I wouldn't hold my breath on a lot of it. I I think um, you know, the Fauci is probably high on the list, although it would be tough to probably prove a lot of things, although it probably wouldn't be tough to prove some of it, um, or at least enough for a court of law and a conviction, because they're not gonna put him on the stand without a conviction, um, knowing that they're gonna get a conviction out of it. Um the January 6th stuff, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. Um, you know, and the pre-pardon or the pardons for Hunter and their and and Joe's brother and everybody else um for things that they hadn't done. Um, you know, that's all just I I think that's happily making all of them very, very nervous. Um, it will probably also well, maybe not because he's not that smart, but it'll probably get Hunter to shut up. Probably one of the big benefits. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_08: 52:36

Yeah, maybe shaken his uh false sense of confidence there for for a moment. Yeah um yeah, it it's all really interesting. And by the way, there was uh, if not more than one, there was just one uh that I saw that an aide who confessed under oath, under oath said, yeah, I absolutely uh use the auto pen. So I mean you're you there are people concretely saying, yep, used it, you know, without uh Biden being around. So like this is concrete. This is real, guys. It's a real deal. And uh one of the things I keep seeing everybody, not everybody, uh people on the left say is you know, complaining that everybody, all presidents have used the auto. As long as the autopen has existed, presidents have used it. So what's the big deal? Why can't we kind of missing the point, guys, right? Like you're kind of missing the point. All the presidents have used it, not their aides, not their son, not their wife, not their best friend, not some janitor from up the street who came by to use the feather. I don't like you're kind of missing the point here, folks. And I don't know why that they keep trying to run with that angle of it. Like, yes, we know nobody is disputing presidents using the autopen for signatures. There's I think the problem is everybody else using it in his name.

SPEAKER_06: 53:51

Yeah, without tacit authorization, which is the case, right? We've talked about this because you know, I ran one of those things. I I you know very well. And and so that's the difference, is it's they were literally without him being around, aware, giving authorization for. There were people literally walking into the Oval Office or wherever they had the pen um and using it um, you know, like it was daddy's credit card. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and that's where the problem lies.

SPEAKER_08: 54:19

Yeah. Oh my goodness. So yeah, that's uh I'm I have a feeling we'll be talking about this many times more because uh at least I'm actually hoping that we'll be talking about it many times more, uh, you know, with updates on all of that. So fingers crossed on that one. Uh let's really quickly just uh touch on this real super quick. Um we are our time is almost up, but uh this, you know, I mean, this has been such a headshaker from from day one, right? And for me, it's been the um the adoration that's been heaped on this unibrowed young man who murdered a family man in broad daylight um and cowardly shot him in the back of the head, basically. Um but he's back in the news again because they're they're trying to uh his defense team is trying to strike anything that he said uh because uh uh during his arrest, because uh they're claiming his Miranda rights weren't read to him. Is that correct? Is that about the gist of it?

SPEAKER_06: 55:14

Well, that and then everything that he had with him as um, you know, I think they caught what is it, uh poison fruit, whatever it is. Um so yeah, so you know the cops went in, they arrested him at the White Castle or wherever he was. Yeah. Um, and and then so in his, you know, in his backpack was evidence that is being so folks, there there's you know three different kinds of discovery um trials that go on or court appearances that go on. And right now, in one of these, you know, appearances, pretrial appearances, his defense team is trying to have a bunch of evidence stricken and not being not being used in the actual trial as it progresses. The scary part is is that this was a year ago, it was almost a year ago. And he we still like this is where we're at. It's just at the very beginning stages of the trial process. So um this is a good benchmark for people to see and hear is you know, this was a year ago, right? Um and this is where we're at. So speedy trial is not a thing. Um and and so um, you know, it's shameful that it's taken this long because the family of the CEO that was killed deserves better. Um, but uh, you know, this is unfortunately where we're at right now. So hopefully um the judges will move quickly on this and we can get this kid in the courtroom uh and uh, you know, in my opinion, convict him and give him the chair.

SPEAKER_08: 56:32

Yes, yes, let's hope so. Uh let's end on, I mean, I wouldn't necessarily call it a lighter note because it's you know, it's a little crazy. Black Friday stuff is always a little bit crazy, but uh obviously Black Friday was um uh always a big deal, right? Record spending, however, record depth. So I guess the um the big to-do about this is that you know they're reporting record spending, but it's not necessarily that people are buying more, buying rates not as like everything costs more, so it looks like it's more, and people are you know going into more debt, which to be honest with you, doesn't feel any different than any other year of holiday spending, right? But um they're they're making it a big deal, I guess.

SPEAKER_06: 57:13

Yeah, the projection was it was gonna be a colossal failure. Yeah. And then it turned around, and and you're right, um, it all depends on how you look at it, but it there was more money spent. Um, there's more spending on this Black Friday than there has been on any other record for for dollars you know spent that day, which I guess is uh you know a reflection of the economy or what at least people are willing to spend or have available to spend. So um while yes, they may have gotten less for their dollar, uh, which is entirely possible, um, they were willing to spend more money uh on Black Friday. So um we'll see, but you know, the odd part is that Black Friday, I I think the fact what's not being factored into this is the fact that Black Friday now lasts for like two weeks.

SPEAKER_03: 57:54

Exactly.

SPEAKER_06: 57:55

That day, I don't know how they how they compiled all of this dollar spent. Was it just that 24-hour period? You know, because now you've got, you know, it used to be what was it, like stores were opening on Thanksgiving night and it was exactly.

SPEAKER_08: 58:06

Yeah, it was like open, you know, some open on like midnight, and some at like ratcheted back, which is good, I think.

SPEAKER_06: 58:12

You know, we're kind of giving people actual holidays. Yes. Amazon started doing Black Friday the week before. So, you know, who knows what all this means other than the fact that uh the Dems are upset. So that tells me something good happened out of it.

SPEAKER_08: 58:23

Absolutely. That's like the marker right there. Or who's who's angry about it? Like who's angry about it? Oh, okay. Now I now I know how to feel about this. It'll be the opposite. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I I feel like I like like you just said, I feel like I've been Black Friday shopping since you know two weeks ago, probably. Amazon. Amazon is doing everything, you know, a million times. Yes, I know, blah, blah, blah. Amazon. I don't don't come for me for shopping Amazon. I love my Amazon. I don't even care that you don't like Amazon. Don't shop there.

SPEAKER_06: 58:51

Yeah, books are on Amazon.

SPEAKER_08: 58:52

Exactly. So remind. Like, listen, you know, Amazon basically owns me and I'm okay with it. You know, I just I there there are just too many things to be pressed about, and that's not one of them for me. If it's for you, by all means, don't don't shop in there. I don't know what to tell you, people. I just don't. I mean, everybody's got to be mad about something all the darn time. Not me though. Not me. I'm gonna be a happy little camper here, happy little shopper. Once I get off of here, I'm gonna go shopping again right now. I don't care. Oh my goodness. All right. Well, we did it. We um we actually, yes, we squeezed those last one really, really fast, but um, we did want to at least touch on them so that when we hit on them again a little bit later, you'll you'll know why. Um, I think that's all I got, Clay. Go ahead and you cycle off, do the things.

SPEAKER_06: 59:36

Yeah, we're we're happy to be back. Uh it's good to take the week off for Thanksgiving. We we deserve that. You deserve it too, and uh Thanksgiving to everybody and happy holiday season. And we're happy to be back, and it'll be Christmas before you know it. And uh as for me, always keep shooting.

SPEAKER_07: 59:50

Take care, guys.

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