From Border Battles To Hollywood’s Virtue Stage

Congress lurches through a partial shutdown while ICE funding, body cams, and the Save Act fuel a deeper fight over law, legitimacy, and public trust. We track youth walkouts, the Epstein file shock, Iran’s threats, and a Grammys night that preached more than it performed.

• partial shutdown mechanics and what actually closed
• Save Act pressure, cross-party votes, voter ID polling
• ICE reforms, body cameras, costs and privacy
• unmasking debate versus agent and family safety
• “ICE out” as Defund 2.0 and crime data reality
• Minneapolis cooperation deal and federal pullback
• student walkouts, protest risk, classroom politics
• culture’s credibility gap at the Grammys
• Epstein files, due process, accountability, next steps
• Iran’s posture, regional risk, and media distractions

Transcript

New Theme And Show Agenda

SPEAKER_05 0:29

Oh, hey, I'm just rocking out to our new tune. I love our song. And some people, uh, you just mentioned it before we came on. There's people who are loving our new theme song. We thank you for that. We are we're digging it ourselves.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Yeah, it was uh, you know, folks, Elsa, while I pick the topics, she does all of the hard work as far as editing and all that good stuff. So she sent me, what is it, four, six different things?

SPEAKER_05 0:55

Oh my gosh, I kept sending them too.

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Yeah, she sent me a bunch of songs, and uh, that's the one we settled on. It's by far my favorite of all of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

I think it's awesome.

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Yeah, it was it was a little rough going because you have to like listen to them like over and over and over again. And they start blending in together, and then you forget, wait, what was this the one that I loved? So I'm like, forget it. I'm throwing it all on Clay. Clay, you decide.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

It's a good one.

SPEAKER_05 1:18

Yeah, yeah, I love it. It's got a good little little rock and beat to it. Um, oh my goodness, we've got lots to talk about today, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:26

Yeah, lots uh lots of things going on, even up to the minute stuff. We've had uh, you know, and we'll we'll see the topics in a minute, but even our leadoff topic, we got a uh we got an update on that just as I was logging in. Oh, by the way, folks, Wednesday 4 p.m. Eastern is when we're recording. But uh here's uh here's a little peek at the topics for the day.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

From the halls of Congress grinding to a halt over border battles, to Epstein's elite web unraveling in fresh files, and kids ditching class to chant down ice while Iran grips the Middle East in its iron fist and the Grammys turned into a woke awards show. Join Elsa Kirk and play Novak as we break it all down with facts, fire, and a little faith. This is the Elsa Kirk show. Real truth, bold faith, no apologies.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

Yeah, it is. Oh my goodness. So uh I I wish we had like um, you know, like a little newsroom. I wish we had somebody like handing us the paper, like breaking news. Hang on, hang on, breaking news, breaking news.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

Yeah, we do get thought of when you see the phone. It's this right here. This is where we get all of our updates from.

SPEAKER_05 2:28

Yep, right here, right here. You're you're better at getting those updates. I you know, I I I live in uh I live in my little fairy tale world over here. I'm like, oh, is that what's going on? Fascinating, fascinating. I guess I will research it.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

I have one of these uh inductive chargers, so the phone is on a stand. Uh and I'm I got it popped up next to me.

Partial Shutdown And Funding Fight

SPEAKER_02 2:48

So if anything hot happens, I always see it. Which it did, like I said, as we were logging in. And so you can see, folks, our first topic is you know, this partial government shutdown that happened uh last week and then into uh into this week. And the latest update is President Trump just signed the bill uh that uh kind of puts the government back to work in in its it was a partial shutdown.

SPEAKER_03 3:11

And I even had to look up like when you say partial shutdown, like what are we talking about? And the list is the list is weird. Um so like within the Department of Defense, the only thing that was affected by this partial shutdown were the federal police officers in Hawaii. That was it. Um uh let's see, uh Department of Health and Human Services minus the FDA, right? So you got administration for you know, administration for children and families, community living, health resources and services administration, um, national center for health studies, right? And then within DHS, uh you had customs and borders, you had uh the FLET, which is the law enforcement training centers, um, and then let's see, within Treasury, the IRS was shut down. Um, let's see, what else? Uh Tax and Trade Bureau, and then there's you know some other stuff. Federal Election Commission was shut down. So it wasn't everything, um, and it was even like partial divides within specific departments within the government. Um, but really what it boiled down to was um four, what was it, 417, 415, 27, 217, 215, uh it passed and uh yesterday, and the president signed it today. So everybody should be back at work.

SPEAKER_05 4:26

There you go. Well, it sounds, I mean, from just what you read off, it sounds so random. The the departments and areas that were effective, and then there's the other side of me that says nothing's ever actually random. So I I don't know what the reasoning is for those particular ones. Could you even put a guess to it?

SPEAKER_03 4:40

Or maybe even you would have to go through and probably hit them individually and say why. So why this one, why this one. I'm sure there's a reason whether they're rational or not. I don't know, but I think they were individually plucked like that one again within the DOD. And again, folks, I refuse to say Department of War because it's not the actual title of the place. But um, you know, the the federal police officers, the DOD police officers in Hawaii is the only thing that was affected. It's very odd.

SPEAKER_04 5:05

Yeah, super odd.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

Well, you know, the the points of contention for this were ICE funding was a big part of it.

SPEAKER_04 5:11

Right.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

Um, on the Republican or on the Democrat side, but on the Republican side, there was a number of naysayers who didn't did not want this to pass without the Save Act being attached to this, which I'm fairly confident it was not.

SPEAKER_05 5:25

Yeah, that was the last that I had heard that it was not attached. Uh, I think President Trump had uh who was it, uh um Luna and uh a few other people come in who were, you know, very they were adamant about it.

SPEAKER_03 5:37

Yeah, she's she's a she's on fire about that. I follow her on social media, and if there is one thing that she talks about every single day, it's the same act.

SPEAKER_05 5:48

Yeah, and she left that meeting uh agreeing to let it go. So for now, it's not like it's it's off the table, it's just yeah set aside.

SPEAKER_03 5:57

But there but there was some there were some naysayers on the Republican side because there were 21 Democrats who came across and it's still only passed by two. Yeah, so there's an almost equal flip-flop of either non-votes or whatever that had to be made up for. So 21 Democrats came across in a somewhat nonpartisan uh passing of the bill. But uh yeah, very interesting, you know. I obviously America wants the Save Act. Have you seen those numbers from CNN?

SPEAKER_05 6:30

I have not from CNN. No, I have not.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Right. And that's the valid part. CNN they had three different across uh demographics white, uh Hispanic and black Americans, and I think the numbers were 85% white want voter ID, 81 or 82 percent Hispanic want voter ID, and 76% black want voter ID. So clearly the American voting public wants voter ID. Right.

SPEAKER_05 6:58

And this is part where we got so angry because we're telling you what we want. Why are you not listening? Like the people are telling you what we want. You work for us, do what the hell we tell you to do, not whatever your political games and your grandstanding and all your BS is. Do what we tell you to do collectively as the whole, you know. Uh it's so freaking aggravating. So obviously, I guess I shouldn't say obviously, but I'm gonna say it anyway. So obviously, uh the the Democrats their their sticking point was the ice reforms that they're they're pushing for. Do you, do you, do we, anybody know what specifically they were trying to uh get?

SPEAKER_03 7:36

Yes. So they wanted body cams, um, which which is happening. And I and I think you and I, I think every rational person is okay with that.

SPEAKER_05 7:45

Absolutely. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 7:47

And and I think uh truthfully, in both cases of uh the good and the Freddy shooting, I I think would have you know added a lot of clarity, immediately added a lot of clarity to both cases. Um I I'm actually a little dumbfounded on why they don't have them.

Voter ID, Save Act, And Public Opinion

SPEAKER_05 8:05

You know what I was gonna say, the same thing, Clay. I I to me that would be a matter of course, especially with you know everything that's going on. Um, and I agree with you again, highly agree, emphatically agree that um body cams, you know, uh from the perspective of law enforcement, law enforcement families, spouses, um, all say the same thing for the most part, that uh please absolutely put those body cams on because we want uh our our officers, our agents uh protected from false claims and these malicious uh, you know, distortions and and lies of um, you know, what they're being accused of. And, you know, and as what happened with law enforcement and using the body cams, you know, all these departments that put the body cams on, um, all of those people who wanted them very, very quickly changed their minds. And suddenly it's an invasion. Oh no, no, no, it's an invasion of my privacy. You can't do that. You know, and the only real and legitimate arguments that I've ever heard from the side of law enforcement um is the the logistics and practicality and the financial cost of um housing this information. You know, so now you need a you need a designated, depending on the size of the department, obviously, you need designated uh officers to um manage and maintain that. Then you have, of course, the obvious, which we were just talking about, um, the the privacy factor, you know, victims' privacy and all that kind of thing. And there's so much. And then you add the next thing, which is, you know, your jackasses that are, you know, on the daily basis, you know, hitting departments with FOIs because they think it's their right to know everything that their neighbor is doing, you know, every second of the day, um, or they're just busy bodies, you know, whatever the case is. So there's a a lot of layers to that that are very complicated and that don't often get addressed properly in a way that satisfies everyone, because everyone who wants the body cams wants them immediately. So then, you know, these departments will rush to appease the madness despite not really being able to. And then, of course, you have like federal funding for that, the incentives to get the body cam. So you there's so much that goes on behind the scenes that people have no idea about. It's just, it's frustrating to me that like all you have to do is pause for a little bit. I feel like a broken record when I say it's like pause, think for a minute. Like just think for a minute outside of like your need, your immediate want and desire, and realize that there's so much more that goes on with this.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

Ugh. Yeah, you uh obviously you're in proximity as an LEO spouse. You're you probably hear about this stuff all the time. Um, you know, my I have you know, I I have a criminal justice degree, but I I I haven't done anything law enforcement related since I was 22 years old, which is you know, more than a few days ago. Um but I do know and I I try and keep up on things as best I can. And I know that the uh the body cam, you know, issue, the one the one that surprised me because you said it, right? It's used in most cases to help uh you know protect police officers in the execution of their duties, right? It it it proves that they're doing the right thing. It does all those things. And and I have read in a number of places, and I'm not saying it's all of them, and I'm not saying that it's everybody, but police unions uh have often been on the not supporting side of body cams because when they try to represent an officer in court, the body camera footage takes away all mystery. Like it is it be things become very, very cut and dry. And you know, a police union's job is to support and protect police officers. Right. And from their perspective, in a lot of cases, it makes it more difficult to protect a police officer when there's body camera footage. Now, um, I think again, every rational person and every LEO I've ever met likes the body camera. So um those are just you know kind of opinions, and I and I understand the I do understand I don't agree with, but I do understand the union's position on that. So but anyway, so body cams was one. Um they wanted them all to be unmasked and that they could not um uh hide their identity in any way, shape, or form. So I think that they really what they wanted in the modern you know, everybody wears the tack vest now, like there's nobody running around without one. So what they wanted was, you know, some sort of identification readily visible on the vest, no facial coverings, like those kinds. It's all the it's all the you know, the things that everybody's up in arms about is what the Dems wanted. And I think part of that, and I think the only thing that was stipulated was the body cams, which again I think most people are completely fine with.

SPEAKER_05 12:40

Yeah, and you know, and and I can be, I'm fair enough to say I understand a legitimate, I understand, and I don't believe that this is what these people are asking, why they're asking for. Um, I do understand from a perspective that um, you know, if you if a police officer comes to your door, knocks on your door, they have to identify themselves, right? Like they have to tell you who they are, what department they're from, blah, blah, blah, all those things. Um, and you know, I get I get that there would be frustration that um ICE is a form of law enforcement, so they should be held under the same standard, like that's probably the argument, right? They should be held under the same standard that you know you have to identify yourself and who you are, blah, blah, blah, all those things. However, we are living in a time where we are actively watching um these very people, these activists, these protesters, these rioters, um, doxing these agents in real time and and encouraging and inciting people to go after their families, their children, their spouses, their loved ones, their dogs. Um, so, you know, listen, uh uh you guys did this. This is your fault that this has become a hell no. You know, at least it's a hell no in my mind, not that I have a say in it. Um, but if I did, it would be an absolute hell no. Um, they should not be required to be unmasked because their families' lives are being threatened. And, you know, there's enough proof. Anybody's gonna watch this and say, no, they're not. You're just making no that is real, that is happening.

ICE Reforms And Body Cameras

SPEAKER_03 14:11

So Yeah, I I saw a video just this morning, which was probably one of the most disturbing things I've seen in a while. Um and and I've seen personally, there's a quite a few uh African-American black conservatives that I follow on social media, um, and and I love a lot of the messages, you know, some of them are kind of very rational, soft, you know, kind of things. Some of them are very blunt. Um, but I do enjoy their content. But I did see this morning that a uh an ICE officer, a black, an African-American ICE officer got called a house N-bomb uh by a white. He couldn't tell if it was a male or a female, um, but got called, you know, house N-bomb. Um, and and so now you've got be and that and they call him that because, you know, they think because he's enforcing the law that he is somehow a sellout and and all of these other things. Um, but you know, the racism against against African American conservatives or African American black law enforcement officers is out of control now. Um and I and I think you know this is Hispanic too. And it's well, yeah, all all the minority officers that are involved. In fact, the officer or officers, but at least one of the officers that shot Pretty is Hispanic. Okay, and and reportedly, and folks, I don't know if this is true or not, but it's been reported he's also gay. Um so like if you want to put if you want to put the the liberal folks into a pretzel, right? So now that you know it's a a a Hispanic gay male ICE officer, right?

SPEAKER_04 15:49

We agree with that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

Yeah, right. Um but he is Hispanic, I do know that. I don't know if he is in fact gay or not. But regardless of all that, there is tons of prejudice. So it it it it does go back to the I don't care who you are, it's all about politics or it's all about TDS or it's all about all of those things. Um and that's really kind of where we're at right now. And it and it, you know, going back to our point, it elevated itself all the way up to you know democratic repres Democrat representation in Congress that they wanted these unmaskings and and all of these things as part of a funding bill that was shutting down the government. So um it it's we're you know, it's a strange world we're living in right now, but that's kind of where we're at.

SPEAKER_05 16:26

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, you know, my stand is always the same on all of this stuff, and it's uh it's probably gonna be a cold day in hell before I change my stance here. Uh fund the wall, back the blue. Uh and remember that hypocrisy is the left's favorite policy. So nothing.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Well, let's go, let's go a little bit out of order. Um we had planned, you know, let's uh, you know, folks, we've seen it and it's it's everywhere. Ice out, right? Ice out is the new slogan. And, you know, kind of dovetailing off what we were talking about, you know, this is Defund the Police 2.0. This is the new message, right? When was the last time you heard Defund the Police?

SPEAKER_05 17:03

Right, right, yeah. Back really in uh yeah, back in um early, earlier 2020s, right? 22, 23, maybe, maybe was like when it's right.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

A little bit, I guess a little bit from Yeah, a little bit in the presidential, the lead up to the presidential election. But I think even when they when they switched over to Kamala Harris, she she even backed away from that. Um I think there was some some even like they questioned Mam Dani about it when he was running for mayor, and he's like, Oh, I'm not gonna defund the police, you know. Um but this is the same thing. Like ice out, right? There's there's movements in Congress right now to not just get ice out of places like Minneapolis and these other places they've been operating, but also to get rid of ice completely, disband it, get rid of it as an organization, which is absolute lunacy.

SPEAKER_05 17:52

It's complete, complete lunacy. They're just, you know, if they weren't so dangerous, I would just simply call them silly and dismiss them. But, you know, because of all of, again, layers to everything that's happening with all of this, um, it is lunacy, it is absolute madness, and it is just 2.0. Like we said, it is 2.0 of defund the police, of abolish ice, of you know, uh all of the things. Anything, let's face it, anything that represents, and here it is, maybe in a nutshell, anything that represents law and order and authority and um but that's it. Anything that represents that is in their mind the problem because all they want is disorder and chaos, chaos and anarchy and disruption and divisiveness and anger. Like they want, I just wish people would get this through their heads. All they want is chaos. That is the goal. There's no um, you know, they like to pretend, and and people uh particularly on the left, fall for this all the time constantly, that they believe that they're fighting for something. But the if they'd stop and pause long enough to realize what is being proposed instead, like what are you gonna do instead? And I know somebody will probably come in and say, well, you know, they want uh civic policing, you know, let us police ourselves. Like, really? Like, really, you really think that works? Please, I'd love for you to. I would actually love to let somebody be the example. You know, somebody want to take that on. Some um listen, we stayed.

SPEAKER_03 19:23

We tried that and Trayvon Martin happened. And then, like perfect example. Had a neighborhood watch, right? And Trayvon Martin got killed, and nobody was happy about that. So, you know, pick what you want, but you you know, again, it's that the hypocrisy over and over again uh of all of this is just uh it's unbearable at times because listen, we know defund the police didn't work, right? And the places where it was tried, there's tons of evidence, there's tons of data now that crime has rapidly increased or has increased in focus areas, specifically where they've defunded the police. Now we've got crime statistics for 2025. President Trump had a good time with those the other day where it was like, well, and the New York Times, you want to talk about irresponsible journalism, they published an entire article with all of the statistics on why on where and what violent crimes have been reduced and in which cities, and then basically the message of the the of the article was and we don't understand why it happened. Well, it could be, it could be that like we we empowered law enforcement to do their job again. We didn't vilify them. We stopped with the message of defund the police, we started augmenting them with National Guard where they needed help. We we started doing those things, and oh, by the way, we deported a few million uh illegal immigrants, many of whom, a number of whom were violent criminals, right? Like all of the reasons are there, but of course the New York Times couldn't give credit where credit's due. They just went with the uh shoulder shrugged, you know, kind of kind of excuse. But you know, this this is gonna be as successful as defund the police, which means it's not gonna be successful at all. Uh a year from now, six months from now, actually, probably after the 700 ICE agents come out of Minneapolis, which is you know, which is gonna happen here in the very near future, yeah, uh, because Tom Homan struck a deal, um you know, you're gonna see you're gonna see all these problems in Minneapolis go down too. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's it's this is gonna be unsuccessful. It's a failed up.

SPEAKER_05 21:22

Oh, it definitely will. And I tell you, several years back I read and reread and shared multiple times over what I thought to be at that time one of the absolute best um uh articles, uh posts that I've ever read regarding policing and the truth and and the, you know, dispelling the lies and everything. It was written by uh Jeffrey James Higgins, who I was so fortunate to get to. He's an author, uh, Jeffrey James Higgins. Go look him up. Um and I was able to interview him um shortly after I just kind of cold cold called him and said, Hey, I'd really love to interview you. And uh, he was gracious and and he agreed to. Uh absolutely unbelievably smart smart. Man, his wife is incredible, also an author. Um, but he wrote this article that just laid it all out and and it still holds, everything that he put in that article still holds to this very minute. Um, you know, it's just it's just outdated in that he doesn't, you know, it doesn't have the stats for 2025 in it, you know, 24. Um, but the article I I really want you guys to go take a look at it if you're so inclined. It is called Systematic Racism in Policing. It's Time to Stop the Lying. And it's by Jeffrey James Higgins. Um, I highly recommend you go and read that and um, you know, maybe just do whatever you need to do to modernize it and, you know, get those stats for right now, like Clay was just talking about. Um, but that really spells it out, the the truth um, you know, that's hidden or ignored by these people about policing, about um, you know, community police, about police um officer-involved shootings and deaths and all of those things and the population of who is actually um committing the crimes. Uh it's brilliant. And, you know, in regards to what you were saying before uh about the what happened when in those areas where they did, you know, kick uh law enforcement out, um it's so predictable, it's it's absurd that I we would even have to tell you what happened, right? Like it's like, I mean, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows exactly what would happen. But, you know, and it would be funny if there weren't, you know, good people victimized by those decisions simply because they were poor or they are poor. Um they are the most vulnerable people with zero protection, and they were essentially left to just uh fend for themselves, and and that is horrific and shame, shame on BLM and anyone, um, you know, political leaders who supported that and championed that absurdity and that atrocity. Um, you know, so yeah, there's my soapbox. I'm still angry about it.

Unmasking Demands And Officer Safety

SPEAKER_03 24:01

And and you know, one of the concerns that we have now, if you go back in time, and not to dwell on this too much, but if you go back in time, you know, organized crime was essentially a replacement for policing in neighborhoods that weren't being policed. Like that's the genesis of much of organized crime when you go all the way back, right? Now, what you would have in the power vacuum or the vacuum of law enforcement in many places in the United States is you're gonna end up with Sharia law, uh, which we cannot we cannot for the good of the country, let alone the people who live in it, um, allow that to take root anywhere in any form at all. So, but that's what would happen in a place like Minneapolis is that in neighborhoods where the police back out or there isn't policing or the people are left to their own devices, you will have Sharia law established and and then there will be neighborhood patrols, and then you'll have all kinds of things that shouldn't go on that will go on, and and and we can have that. So um, oh by the way, the deal the deal I was talking about that Tom Homan struck with um you know Minneapolis and and this and Minnesota itself. Um the reason they're pulling those 700 ICE agents out is because they have finally agreed uh to cooperate with ICE when they detain uh an illegal immigrant.

SPEAKER_05 25:15

That's a that is an important distinction too.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

That's it. That's yeah, that's all he wanted. And so now when they arrest an illegal immigrant, they just turn them over. And and it's just that simple. So um now I don't know what the repercussions are if they renege on that deal, but um, but that was the the crux of you know him saying, hey, listen, we've had a lot of great, you know, Tom Homan's polished, he's he knows what he's doing. I mean he said, listen, we you know, this is all we were looking for, some great cooperation with some local law enforcement, and and you know, we need their help, and you know, and blah, blah, blah, blah. And here's the deal that we struck. And he was very matter-of-fact about it. So that's kind of where we're at.

SPEAKER_05 25:48

Yeah, and based on what we know of Tom Tom Homan and his character and uh how he how he just does things, I would pretty, I would all but guarantee that there is some pretty hefty um you know, right? Like there, there's something.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

Like if you reneg that the consequences will be severe.

SPEAKER_05 26:05

Yeah, like it and it was probably I could imagine, you know, very Trump-like. He was probably like, don't do it.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Yeah, just don't do it. And not in the and not in the Biden way of no.

SPEAKER_05 26:16

Yeah. No. No, yeah. Oh my goodness. Well, this, I mean, this really, I think we should just continue on with this because oh my goodness. Wow, wow, wow, wow. And I do have a counter to this that I shared with my my audience, and I and I will share it after we talk about this to kind of lighten a little bit. Because I am gonna show a video, I am gonna show a video. I did take the sound off um because it's just this, it's just disturbing. The video itself is simply disturbing and upsetting.

SPEAKER_03 26:49

So I'm I'm going to play it and we'll just keep talking over for those folks that are listening and not watching. We are talking about kids, middle schoolers and high schoolers who are being not just allowed, but encouraged and even mandated to go participate in anti-ICE protesting across the country. Middle schoolers, high schoolers and middle schoolers.

SPEAKER_05 27:10

Yeah, which, you know, just all on its own is insane. So for anyone, again, who's uh not able to watch, we're uh just showing a video of this little mob of um what look to be look to be like middle schoolers. They don't look high school. Yeah, young. It could be somewhere right in between. Like if anything, they can't be more than freshmen. They're kind of on the little side. I mean, they're big enough. Let's put it in, they're big enough to inflict some damage. Um, but they just went on a rampage and they were attacking. So the original caption on this from I don't know if it was the original poster or who, but somebody had captioned it with that they uh this mob of youths uh attacked a teacher. Um, and it there was a correction to it that it he was not a teacher, he was a just a motorist. So they just um, you know, went up and and you know, I don't know, the scene beforehand. But the the video is them attacking this drag him out of his truck or no. So he may have gotten out to maybe get him to, they were probably crowding the vehicle, probably not letting him pass, uh, you know, doing what they what they're taught to do by their elders, which is to impede uh traffic and cause the kind of disruption, destruction, disruption, disruption, both actually. And um, so I I don't have what happened in the moments before where he either was pulled out or got out. Um, but they are quite literally um kicking him, uh punching him, uh a gang of them. That's not just one or two. Yeah, that was part of what he did. Yeah, and there are, you can see, and I did, I had to watch it a few times to realize that that was the case. There were some kids that were trying to pull the other kids off and push them back and stop them. So thank goodness for some sense and some kids um, you know, with some good moral grounding, uh, that it, you know, at least some of that kicked in somewhere in all of this, and they're like, whoa, whoa, this is this is too much, wasn't signed on for that. Um, you know, and of course the irony, and I don't know if you caught it play at the end of the video, you can see one of these attackers, these young people, has a shirt on that says something about uh choosing kindness. I mean, the irony of course, of course. I mean, if that isn't that that movement, uh, air quotes for that, if that isn't that movement in a nutshell, wearing a shirt that says choose kindness while pummeling someone who may or may even not disagree with your perspective, wow, is all I can say.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

But yeah, he's nicer than me. He he's nicer than me because he he you know he kind of fought his way, not really fought, but he kind of worked his way out of you know being manhandled and then casually kind of walked walked away back to his truck.

SPEAKER_05 29:43

And uh he's a superhero because I don't know how he did that. Yeah, I would have to do it.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

There would have been some those kids who would have been in a bad way. But uh you know, folks, listen, we we've got and this is nationwide, this is not isolated incidences, but there was the quote unquote national walkout that happened. Um, and then you know, in a couple of other cases, you have middle schoolers and high schoolers who are walking out of school uh and participating in anti-ICE protesting. Now, high schoolers, we all went to high school, you know, you get to that point in that 15, 16, 17-year-old brain where, you know, damn the man and like, you know, everybody who's an authority figure is an ass, you know. And okay, I get it. Um, so you know, could they all have been listen? I I know if we would have got up and walked out of school, you know, there would have been some repercussions for that. Um these kids, unfortunately, are being encouraged, uh, in many cases being allowed to spend class time making their signs for these protests, um, teachers, you know, turning a blind eye to what's going on, and even outwardly encouraging. Um, again, high schoolers are one thing. I don't agree with it, but they're a different, significantly different population than middle schoolers. Now you've got kids who truthfully are not old enough to be making these kind of judgments, even just casually. Um, you know, any kid who's got an opinion on this, I can promise you got it from home. Yeah. Um, from you know, the environment that they live in at home. But now we've got teachers that are influencing this and mandating. I've seen a couple of instances where kids were mandated to go, uh, middle schoolers mandated to go to these protests. And we know these turn on a dime and get violent.

SPEAKER_04 31:28

Yeah.

“ICE Out” As Defund 2.0

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Um, and and you because you don't know who else is going to show up, right? You don't know what the conditions are gonna be. Peaceful protest is always a great idea, very rarely happens that way. And now we're putting kids at risk. At a minimum, we are turning a blind eye and allowing them to participate. Um, and at the worst case scenario, we are dragging them along, whether they want to go or not, and putting them in harm's way. Yeah, um, and this is reprehensible. Like any teacher, I think, associated with this should be immediately fired. Absolutely. This is, you know, we've talked about politics in the classroom a number of times, which is wholly inappropriate. Um, but this now you're you're talking about risk to children for no reason, no good reason at all. Right.

SPEAKER_05 32:08

Yeah. The only reason is to um create little radicals, you know, little baby radicals to warp their their minds with, you know, radical ideology. And uh, you know, again, it becomes a cliche now because it's been said so often, but is the absolute truth. You know, they are teaching these children what to think instead of how to think. They are not encouraging rational thought, they're encouraging impulsive reactiveness and um just awful. And then, of course, like you said, you know, to your point that they are are the the political conversations in the schools are so holy and highly inappropriate and unacceptable, and they have no place there unless you are in a sociology class. And that's usually high school. That's not even, I don't even think they have that in middle school. I have no idea anymore. Um, but you know, unless you're in a sociology class or a political science class or anything like that where that is the subject. Um, and even then I am wary because it is being taught so one-sided and you're only being taught from one perspective. You know, you should be teaching these kids this is what, you know, this party believes and stands for historically and currently, uh, and this is what that party, you know, all of those things. It's fine. You know, if you want to talk about those topics, be the ideologies, uh the contrasting belief systems and all those things, then you talk about it in a neutral way and you allow them to think about what makes sense to them. And we know that that's not happening because they're producing these little little lunatics, you know, mindless little lunatics. And and again, and I point out that those handful of kids that were um trying to pull them off of the guy and everything, you know. So this isn't um it's widespread, yes, absolutely. But um I I I hate to not acknowledge the so many youth that are resisting this. And uh, and which brings me to kind of uh that little story I was gonna I wanted to mention. Um uh personal story, I I shared it on my page, but I had uh my husband and I this past weekend after church, we decided to take a little run over to uh Barnes and Noble and uh just we really just went to have some coffee and just browse and all of that stuff. And um I went in with a perps to get uh Charlie Kirk's new book, um, last book. And as I was walking by the section where all his books were, there was a group of teenage girls, young teenage girls. If I had to guess, I'd put them at like, you know, maybe 13, 14 or so, probably about four or five of them, all uh being teenage, little teenage girls, they were all huddled up and giggling together and you know, talking a little loud and just they were cute. And um, as just as I was passing, one of them set a gasp and went and just went, Oh, look. And she pointed, I could see her as I'm walking. And she points to a book on the shelf, which I could not see in that moment, but I heard her, she said, It's Charlie, look, it's Charlie's book. And one of the other girls says, Oh, I loved him. And all of these girls were just, they were just uh amazing, and they were just saying the cutest sweet right off the top of their head things. And then they just moved on with their life, and you know, and I looked, and of course, that it was Charlie Kirk's book. And what was so touching to me about this by itself alone is touching, but the fact that I live in a very liberal state that is a the town I was in is a very liberal town. Um my own expectations of what people in my area are thinking and feeling. Um that was a little, that was a little smack upside the back of the head. Like, don't make assumptions about you know how people are gonna uh think and react. And and I I feel like this is important to point out right now as we're talking about kids and we're seeing videos like that, and we're seeing all of the the social media um, you know, yeah stuff of you know, everybody on their worst behavior and and being their worst. And these young people, college students, you know, we we see on our side of it, we see so much of the radical leftist ideology that the septum piercings and the blue hair and the you know the general malaise that they have about life and everything. But um, there is that other side of it, and I I think it is much larger than we realize that it is. And that was one of those moments for me. So thank you for indulging me in in telling that. Um, you know, and I I just I love to remind myself of that, you know, when I start getting fired up and and thinking that, ooh, we're in such deep trouble. I don't I don't know if we necessarily were in some trouble for sure, but there are ones out there that are counter countering this really well.

SPEAKER_03 36:47

Yeah, I the pendulum is swinging. Um I I think, you know, and discussions since um post-COVID, since right after kind of things open back up again. That this this generation of young kids, and when I say that I'm talking, you know, the kids who are in their like mid-teens into their early 20s, who had to go through COVID and in middle school, high school, and college, um are gonna be the ones who swing back towards a more conservative viewpoint nationwide because they kind of, you know, they they lived under the thumb of COVID and they didn't appreciate it. So that's a probably a great example is those young girls there that are, you know, kind of seeing and being exposed to and accepting uh a viewpoint that among their age group and peers 10 years ago would be completely unacceptable. So good for them. That's great.

SPEAKER_05 37:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was it was the it was a nice moment, nice little breath of fresh air for sure. Um, let's see. So here's um, oh gosh. Ugh. This makes me so gross I was even talking about this, but we're going to. Um completely changing gears for the most part here. Oh the Epstein stuff and things. So um, what was the number?

SPEAKER_03 37:59

About three million um documents, various documents, everything from emails to photographs to all kinds of stuff that's in there. Um it's been out since uh Monday, I think. Um or maybe Tuesday, but either way, people have been immersing themselves into these three million documents, and they're trying to find all kinds of things. Now, there are a couple things that have come out of this. There are the litany of um famous people names uh that we, you know, some we knew, some we suspected, some were rumored about. Now we've got confirmation. Uh, you know, a lot of Hollywood celebrities are mentioned in there. Um, you know, there's some some politicians beyond Prince Andrew that are mentioned in there. Um, there's a number of sports owners mentioned in there, uh, which is interesting.

SPEAKER_05 38:51

Um some doctor, too, that everybody keeps talking about, some big name or lifestyle doctor or something.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

Yeah. Um, but listen, folks, no matter what you are told, um, no matter what people want to believe or they proclaim, yes, President Trump's name were in the files. No, there is no evidence, no creditable, credible evidence that he of any wrongdoing on his part. Yes, there is an accusation in there from a young woman who says, you know, forcible um, you know, sexual acts and some other things. Everything about her statement um is essentially not it's disproven. She talked about things happening at a golf course that he owned at the time. He didn't own the golf course until seven or eight years after she claimed that the thing happened. The FBI, that the note on her sheet says, not a credible witness, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But people are completely ignoring that. And they're saying, but he's in there, but there's an accusation in there, but he's guilty, you know, and and they're assuming guilt all already, obviously.

SPEAKER_05 39:54

So yeah, and the same people that are saying absolutely nothing about the Clintons or about Bill Gates or about, you know, any of these other people. They're the you know, with some really uh uncomfortable um things in there with these people. Like really bad. I mean, we're talking about Bill Gates for for one.

Crime Data, Policing, And Minneapolis Deal

SPEAKER_03 40:13

And his and his wife is the ex-wife, you know, Melinda has been interviewed since the release of these documents. I've seen two separate interviews with her, and she has come out and said, this needs to be investigated. But she's not protecting anybody, she's not hiding anything. Um, she knows that, you know, and she said it like I had to leave my marriage because of his, you know, his actions, and this is an indicator of his actions. And and so um there are things that need to be investigated. There are folks, if you are if you have a soft or weak stomach, I would not recommend you dive very deep into these things because there are some horrific accusations in there uh about um you know President H.W. Bush, um, accusations about him, among other people. Um, and this is not a party-line thing. This is literally the elites of the world um in every arena you can think of, politics, finance, you know, uh Hollywood stardom, um, all of those things. Every there are tons and tons of people being accused of some absolute we're talking about satanic, we're talking about human sacrifice, we're talking about ritualistic killings, we're talking about all kinds of horrific things happening on Epstein Island or in association with Epstein himself. Um, you know, there are men there are mentions of just unbelievable people. And I've and I have not dug deep into this, but I have dug enough that I posted uh on social media the other day that if even one third of this is true, um, we have a very serious, serious problem across the United States. Like this is burn it down and start over kind of bad if this stuff is true. Even a third, even a portion of this is true. I mean, it is some truly horrific, horrific things in those uh in those not just emails, but photographs and and other things that are in there. It's it's some pretty terrible stuff.

SPEAKER_05 42:09

Yeah, yeah, horrific, awful stuff. And I I agree with you. You know, I was thinking of that yesterday as I was uh just uh scrolling through content, and of course, you know, everybody knows how uh the algorithm, well I don't know if everybody knows, but the how the algorithms work is if you if you watch something, you know, through past a certain number of seconds, I think it's like seven seconds. Um in particular if you watch it through to the end, it tells the algorithm that that is content that you're interested in. So of course, as soon as I watched one video talking about, you know, from a content creator talking about Epstein and the the files, um, then there was like, you know, probably a hundred more after that. And, you know, I did just kind of do the fast scroll right past a lot of them. I did watch some of them just to see uh, you know, just the gist of what they were saying. And and I was thinking about these people who were, you know, and every single one of them was saying, you know, I'm spending, you know, hours upon hours upon hours reviewing these and reading these. And I was thinking to myself, that is not gonna serve you well. That is not gonna serve your mental health well at all. Because just from the little bits that I've seen and heard and read about, um, it just made me just stick to my stomach, like just really physically, feeling physically sickened by just the little bits that um they were relaying from it. And I have not done any, not even one single dive into any of that. So I am staying there. I'm protecting my peace with everything that I've got. Um, you know, and some maybe some people say, Oh, you need to read it, you need to know, you know, is how we no, no, we've got people for that. We've got people that are willing to do that. And um, yeah, and just you know, one of the things that that um I was shaking my head at, like, I remember, remember how long we've been hearing about pizza, pizza gate, and all the people from that side of things that the non believers um were like, you guys are so stupid. P oh, really, Pizzagate that's so dumb. It's made up. It's what was the Q QAnon or whatever? You know, whatever. They're calling it that and everything. And then, you know, one of the videos that I was watching was pulling up the um the emails, you know, and all of these emails with all of their code language that we're never well, maybe someday we'll know what those codes actually stood for. We can speculate certainly pretty easily on on what. But it, you know, it was the pizza, so many references. They actually took the time to count in all of the emails that they had read, um, count how many references there were to certain keywords, like um, and it was pizza. Another one was cupcakes. They kept referencing cupcakes all the time, and how you know Jeffrey needs his cupcakes, make sure you get his cupcakes to him. Um, you know, all of that. Furniture was another one. And of course, there was that whole wayfarer thing. I don't know if you yeah. So uh there is, I mean, three million files released. Can't even fathom. And like you said, what we've heard and seen is bad enough. And it it brings us right back, right, Clay, to the questions that we all constantly ask and should continue to ask and demand really is where are the arrests? Where are the repercussions from this? Where is the accountability for this? I want people, you know, if they can't be imprisoned and jailed, they need to be out of office, not serving the community in any way, shape, or form. I mean, where is it? You know, and we shouldn't rest until we see that and we shouldn't think that this is the end of it, like the whole, okay, yay, they were they were released, now what? You know, it should be the now what? Let's see something from it. And I'm not saying that I don't believe that the Trump administration is working on that, or the the um uh the DOJ and and their department and the FBI and everybody. You know, I'd like to believe that they are. So what do you think?

SPEAKER_03 45:54

Yeah, the the problem is that the message from the president is we need to move on from this, which is not what America voted for. That's not why he got put into office. Um, you know, one of the top reasons he got elected was to handle this. And when we say handle it, we're talking about exactly what you said, which is the arrests, people being held accountable for this. Um and to just dismiss this to say, well, people just need to move on. Like that doesn't work. Um, and so you know, it's uh it's bad messaging from the president. Um, and you know, it's uh we we want we all need accountability. And again, if even a portion of this stuff is true, we need accountability. Those victims need people held accountable because I will tell you that if this stuff continues to bubble and no one is held accountable, the potential for vigilante justice just goes up, right? And and and it's going to happen to public figures accused in this um because people believe the government's not gonna act, they're not gonna do the right thing, they're not gonna hold anybody accountable, so somebody has to, and it might as well be me. And it you know, and people are gonna believe that in their heart, and you're gonna see people, rightfully so or not rightfully so, you're gonna see people uh get hurt over this, and it's not gonna be through due process. Um the problem is that in today's day and age, one of the biggest fears that I have is we don't know how much of this is true, how much of it is AI generated, how much of it is any of that stuff. None of us know. All we know is there was three million documents dumped on a website that people have been digging through for a few days now. Um and and you know, could this, you know, trials on these things last for years? Sure they could, um, with the amount of evidence that is out there. But at some point, we just gotta do it. Like, as a nation, we need to demand that these things are done. I I don't care. Like, a simple fact of let's just pick somebody that we know was mentioned in the emails, and I'm not saying guilty or not guilty, George Clooney's name is in the emails, right? He's in the documents.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

Right.

SPEAKER_03 48:07

How long before George Clooney is picked up by the FBI and brought in for questioning?

SPEAKER_04 48:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

When does that happen? I'm again, I'm not even saying he's got to be arrested. When is he gonna be questioned? When is the, you know, the owner of the Giants, I think, is one of the ones that's the football giants is listed on there as in there, one of the sports owners. Um, you've got um, you know, who else? Tom Hanks is in there, right? You've got like there are all kinds of people mentioned in there again. Bring them in. We need to see activity and action based on what is public knowledge right now. Right. And and my fear is that we're not gonna see it, it's not gonna be fast enough, and people are gonna start taking matters in their own hands. Right. And I know that there are people who are sitting out there watching and listening to us who are saying, good, I listen, folks, we never encourage that. I don't encourage it as much as as appealing as it can be at times. That is not how America operates.

SPEAKER_05 49:00

Right. Listen, I'm the first one to love choosing violence, and I know that I did it for a living.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

Some people need it.

SPEAKER_05 49:08

I yeah, like I, you know, listen, I married a man of action, and he, you know, I love that. I love that, and I think it's right, and I think it's good, um, but it has to be done right and correct, you know. So yeah, um, I yeah, oof. This whole thing is just so horrific, and we cannot get right, like we just cannot get um, we can't become apathetic to this. And and I think that is the tendency, and I think that was part of the goal to exhaust us. And we talked about this once before as being, you know, low-key. This was a goal to get us so um desensitized. That was the word I was looking for before, um, so desensitized to the horror of all of this. And and I think in some aspects of that is the case that people have. When you start hearing people say things like President Trump said, you know, get over it. No, no, no. And, you know, it worked already to be putting the pressure on. That is how um we got all of these released because people would not rest, they would not let it go. And uh, you know, and I think what has to happen is that that pressure has to be continuously put on um the administration to to do that, to keep pursuing it at all costs. And, you know, and I I I can put a very easy guess as to why they all want it to go away. It's because there are so many big, powerful people in those lists, and that will have a massive ripple effect on many, many things that are actually going to hurt us all in some way, shape, or form. And I still say, do it anyway. Do it anyway. Like you said, I like what I like what you said, Clay. You said burn it to the ground, burn it to the ground, do it. I don't care who's affected. I don't care if it's somebody I have on such you know high esteem or high regard. I don't care, do it. I I don't care about any of these people, even the ones that I like, even President Trump, if that were the case, um, I don't care. And I think I think I can say that for most of us, if not all of us. You know, there's certainly some people who who, you know, have their idols and and they will, you know, that's the hill they'll die on. They they must be protected at all costs. I disagree. I don't know a single person other than my family members, my babies that, you know, I feel that way about. So yeah, that's that's that's my feeling on it.

SPEAKER_03 51:37

And uh, you know, a quick transition to next topic, but watch for watch for the shiny object, the distraction to draw your eyes away from this. It's only been a couple of days, but um to to watch this, the potential for this to you know become below the fold, as they used to say when we're referencing newspapers, um, to watch this topic float to the bottom of the news feed very quickly because something else happens. Like, I don't know, maybe war with Iran.

SPEAKER_05 52:06

Hmm. You think that might get just rushed aside? Yeah, you know I'm letting you run with this one, Claude.

Youth Protests And School Walkouts

SPEAKER_03 52:12

Yeah, and just very quickly, folks, just so you understand what's going on. So we've moved obviously a lot of combat power as we refer to it into the region. I think there's now two carrier strike groups, uh, one in the in the Med and then one in the Gulf that are within reach of Iran. Plus, there's, you know, and this is all public knowledge, folks. I'm not telling you anything that's not out there. Um, but there's some other assets that have been pushed forward in anticipation of a uh, you know, a regime collapse or even a potentially assist in a regime collapse. Um the problem is now the messaging from the you've got broken two sets of messaging from the um the Iranian government. So you've got one message that says, yes, let's talk about this. Um and then you've got the IRGC, the military hardliner side that has essentially said if a if there is an attack on Iran, we will start a region-wide war. They will everybody. They're gonna they said they're gonna start a war with everybody. Now, most of that will be directed at Israel, but there's a lot of people and a lot of space between Iran and Israel, right? So they are threatening to you know engage with Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, right? All of these countries and turn the entire Middle East into a battleground. That is the threat right now. Um and so I I think you know it's very irrational, but that is kind of who they are. So I think it's being taken very seriously. Um but in the meantime, you know, for all of you that aren't paying attention, um, there's thousands of Iranians dying uh over this, right? There is a a they're on the edge of a revolution. There have been in excess of I I think we're approaching 10,000 fatalities at this point, and then tens of thousands have been injured. There have been kids and women, and it's all the horrific things that you imagine. But they are planning on holding the entire region hostage to try to prevent an an invasion or an attack by the United States or anybody else. Um, and uh it's uh it's everything's hanging by a thread right now over there, and and really just about anything could set it off. So it's very tenuous, right, at the moment.

SPEAKER_05 54:19

And we are, we're so distracted, we're so easily distracted by the shiny objects, right? And there's just there's so much in the in the news cycle that things that are not in our immediate um line of sight, we we tend to kind of forget what's going on and and that's you know, talk about atrocities. So that's a huge one right there. So yeah, I I appreciate you appreciate you keeping an eye on it and and you know bringing it to attention for the rest of us because I mean we should be paying attention for all of the obvious reasons we should be paying attention to this. Um so yeah, we'll we'll well we I say we we know it's you who's gonna keep an we know it's you is we're gonna keep an eye on this and we'll talk. I'm sure we'll have yeah, we'll have more to talk about it, I'm sure, next week. So um we'll we'll continue to keep an eye on that one. Um we have two uh kind of frivolous things to end the evening with with you guys. Uh let's take a quick chat about these ninnies. Um I I feel fairly confident saying that you, along with myself, didn't watch a damn minute of it.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

Not a minute. Not a minute, not a single minute.

SPEAKER_05 55:24

I didn't even know it was on until after the fact. The only way I knew about it was thanks to TikTok and social media, you know, sharing those soon-to-be viral clips right away. Uh, one of them being uh one that has nothing to do with politics, shockingly, because that's um, you know, the whole night was all about that, uh, was the Justin Bieber performance, which I, you know, from I don't I don't know. I mean, I don't even know what to make of any of that. I know he is a very tormented young man who has been through it and then some. So I kind of just feel like giving him accolades for kind of, you know, just just surviving. Um, so that was, I think, maybe like one of the few non-political statement moments, which is uh great. People actually got to see a performer performing something um besides their own self-gratitude and backslapping. Um let's see. So what else? So let's see. Um it's like the woke award tonight, basically. It was an immigration soapbox for these people. Um the one that I think has gone the most viral is this talented little ninny.

SPEAKER_04 56:41

Yeah, it's it's really hard to know what to say and what to do right now.

SPEAKER_05 56:45

Um probably not that. Probably don't say it. In case you didn't quite catch what she had said at the beginning of that, she said, uh, what does she think? No one is illegal on stolen land. No one is illegal on stolen land. That was her powerful statement.

SPEAKER_03 56:58

Yeah, it's Billy Eilish, you know, she's uh, you know, for those of you that yes, you you said it, she is talented. It's not, I don't listen to that style of music, but you know, I I kind of I did what I do with most celebrities when they say something stupid like that, and the first thing that I do is go to their education. And so she was raised, homeschooled, she started into music very young, so you can imagine that her homeschooling tapered off. She's been a protected individual since she was, you know, a you know, pre-pubescent, you know, 10-year-old, um, in the sense that she's lived in her own little world. Um, and she still lives in her in her own little world. You know, when she talks about her, you know, illegal, you know, known as illegal on stolen land, she lives in a in a$14 million uh piece of property in LA that's got eight-foot fence and gate and security guards and security cameras and all of these things, and she's being mocked relentlessly by everyone, including the tribe itself, who originally was native to that area of Los Angeles, who has said she has not contacted us about returning her piece of property to us at any point in the future.

SPEAKER_05 58:11

I can't believe she hasn't yet. Yeah, you know, and another example, and I'm such a mom. I have such a hard time coming down hard on young people like that because they're just so indoctrinated. They're just so, and then you add that level of being, and I'm not justifying it, guys. I'm not justifying this at all. I I'm I'm just seeing a very rounded picture of this. You know, you have somebody, like we were just saying, like you were just saying, who's, you know, super, super isolated and protected and in this safe little bubble. And she has always existed in a safe little bubble of protection um and constant affirmation of her ripeness and her greatness and her smartness and all of these things. So you you have this completely coddled, soft little human with no life experience other than that tiny little bubble. And I don't um I don't mock her for that. I just see it for what it is. Somebody who can't possibly have an intelligent scope of understanding of things because she's just simply not even allowed to. She's not even afforded that opportunity uh to do that. And um, you know, and now you have now you say something like this, you say your your big brave statement, and what do you get? You get applause and standing ovation and everybody telling you good job. And it just feeds the fuel uh of this narcissistic um ignorance that they that they it live in and that they just spread on the world like a cancer, and you know, and it's so hard to take them seriously, but yet there are people who do who think that what they have to say actually has value and uh any credence to it. And then what happens? Well, the internet internets and they do what they do, and you know, like you said, so uh again, I I have a hard time being terribly harsh. Um, I guess that maybe might have all sounded a little harsh, did it? I don't know.

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:13

Not as harsh as I usually do. But listen, folks, it was uh, you know, in the aftermath, like Elsa said, neither of us watched it. You know, you catch um, you know, whether it's news shows or whatever, or social media, and people are, you know, you catch the highlights here and there. I mean, it was you know, uncanny that just the same time that all of these Epstein files come out and there's all these accusations of pedophilia and and all of these things coming out of Hollywood, that you've got this same group of people, right? Um, and you've got like Heidi Clume in a dress that was pressed, it was formed leather, um, like a skin tonish yellow that literally looked like she was walking around naked. Like uh, you know, and then you had um what was her name? I just looked it up. Chapel Rowan. Um her, you know, her dress, if you haven't seen it, folks, like you know, never in public, you know, see-through um like the um you know, the cut light literally hanging from her nipples and hanging down, like you know, and the fact that they I get the shock factor, and that's been going on a long time. Like we can go back to share in the friggin' 80s, right? You know, and and but you get this, and it's like this it's the fact that it's on TV and that everybody just goes, Oh, so brave. So brave. You know, it's like, no, you're you're wrong. She's crazy, she's got a mental disorder. Like, and anybody who told her that that was a good idea also has a mental disorder. And it's this self-perpetuating, you know, I like to say self-licking ice cream cone of Hollywood where you put them in a room together and they all applaud each other for being so brave, and they just believe that because that's the only thing that they're ever exposed to. And this was just another example of all of that crap.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:55

Yeah, yeah, I did catch one video. There is an I don't know who the I don't know who she is. I feel like I should always know who all these people are, but I don't know who I don't even know a quarter of who these people are. But apparently this, there's a um influencer, I guess. I don't know, she's a social media personality, uh, pretty blonde woman. And she was in the audience and she recorded her um reaction, or somebody recorded her reaction to uh Billie Eilish's little statement, and she was just like mercilessly mocking her, and she was like, mmm, mmm, so bravo, so brave, you know, and all that stuff. And that's I think that's gone somewhat viral, that reaction, you know. So yeah, so it's like don't be deceived either that you know, everybody there was you know so impressed.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

Um they weren't Ricky Gervais should host every award show, every single one.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:40

Because he's that's still forever the the ultimate, yeah, absolute best. I like him quite a bit, and he's a massive animal lover, so I love him even more. Um, but yeah, so you know, no surprises there, completely predictable. And as somebody who grew up um looking, watching and looking forward to, you know, my mom and I would sit, right? We would sit and watch that, every single one of them. And um, we weren't actually growing up, we weren't like big Broadway people, but even the Tonies, like we watched every single one of them. We loved them so much. It was such an event to watch them.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:12

And now they were like they were the rare times where we got to stay up past bedtime, right? The Grammys, the Oscars, the Emmys, like we got to watch that as kids. And now I I don't go anywhere near that stuff because I like the people involved and the industries themselves are just they're horrific.

Classroom Politics And Teaching Bias

SPEAKER_05 1:03:29

It's especially when you know, you know, going back to momentarily for the Epstein stuff, especially when you know what's going on in the underbelly in the dark of all of their stuff. It's like uh you guys are so gross, and all you do is just make our um contempt for you grow every single day. So yeah. All right, last but not least, let's talk about the comments. We um we started our new segment where we um take a quick glance through the comments section and pull up a couple of things, a couple few things um that caught our eye. And um, here was one that um I thought was a really good one, and we actually ended up talking about it, but um I I will I will reiterate that um and thank you, Steve, for asking that question.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:13

He was super active in the comments too. Bravo, Steve Nygard. Um, there was he was he was in it. Like that was uh was good.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:21

Much appreciated. But yeah, as as you may or may not have heard, I am 100% all for it. I I think uh the body cams should be an absolute automatic yes. And I'm stunned and disappointed and surprised that they weren't already. You, Clay?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:38

Oh no, for sure. We we talked about it before. Um the fact that they haven't had them until now is baffling to me. So I'm a huge supporter.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:45

So yeah, thank you, Steve, for for asking that. Uh, what about next? This was a little bit longer. I'm gonna read it real quick for anybody um watching, but uh, and I'll explain why I wanted to put up there. So uh Marjorie commented that um this this is a video talking about uh the uh Alex Pratty uh incident. Um she said this there was a video of the same guy she mistyped, it was probably a typo, um scuffling is what she meant to say. There was a video of the same guy scuffling with an ICE agent, and when the agents were leaving, he went up and kicked out their tail lights. The man had a lot of anger issues and need to feel like a hero, covert malignant narcissist never seems to be anything but a good old guy, but this guy has a lot of issues. And then somebody named Ramon responded to her saying, now that's funny, anger issues need to feel like a hero, covert malignant narcissist. Hmm, sounds very familiar. So, what you are saying is a man who has all those issues should be shot eight times in the back of the head and back. I will pray for you. So the reason why I really wanted to share this is because I have talked for years about um the straw man fallacy, uh the straw man argument, and how people love to use that and how and why you should never. Give them a quarter because the goal is to get you to apologize and backpedal on something that you never said. Hence the so what you are saying is so he's he's inferring and you know trying to imply that he's reading between the lines of something that she said, but she never actually said that, and nor nor would she, nor would she, you know. So it this is just my little note to everybody when you see things like, so you're saying, so what you're saying is, oh, so you think that, and anytime that I actually even give a response to somebody who does that is to say, I sent exactly what I said, and nothing other than that. How you interpret it is 100% on you, and that should be if you're gonna respond at all, that should be your only response. So that's that. And then here's my fun one. This is the one that made me smile. I got called based blonde. Now, so I kind of knew what that term meant, but I didn't really know like fully what it meant. I knew it was a compliment. I knew it was a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:59

I had to ask you because I didn't know either.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:01

And and I had to have it prepared to tell all of you what it is because I stink and love it. And I don't know if you guys maybe haven't heard the term, um, but it's basically like you know how the left has woke, and in their mindset, that's a compliment to be called woke. They think that's a good thing. Um, so for us, our version for us is based. We are based. If you're based, it's a modern slang, it's modern slang based that basically means grounded, unapologetically honest, and not trying to win approval. If someone says that's based, they usually mean that's true, that's bold. That person isn't pandering. They said what they believe, even if it's unpopular, and it often carries a tone of respect, like finally, somebody with a spine. So um, Steve, my friend, thank you. That was uh that to me, that is probably one of the highest compliments someone could ever, ever give me. So thank you, my friend, for that. I appreciate it. Uh, I will take that at a girl and and smile about it. So thank you. So that's it. That's all I got, Clay.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:02

As as you should, and good for you. That's a compliment. I would take that as well. Very nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:07

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:08

Oh my goodness. Clay, you got anything you want to close them out with?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:11

No, hey, folks, uh, a little bit longer show, but uh important topics as always. And uh, you know, we we appreciate you sticking in and uh feel jump in the comments. You might become famous, good or bad, but you might become famous, and uh as as always for me, till next time. Keep moving, keep shooting.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:27

Take care, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:27

The headlines will change by tomorrow, but the patterns won't. Thanks for spending this time with us. We'll be back to keep asking the harder questions and telling the quieter truths. Until then, stay grounded, be discerning, and we'll see you next time.