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Elsa Kurt is an American actress, comedian, podcast producer & host, social media entertainer, and author of over twenty-five books. Elsa's career began first with writing, then moved into the unconventional but highly popularized world of TikTok, where she amassed an organic following of 200K followers and over 7 billion views of her satirical and parody skits, namely her viral portrayal of Vice President Kamala Harris, which attracted the attention of notable media personalities such as Michael Knowles, Mike Huckabee, Brit Hume, and countless media outlets. She's been featured in articles by Steven Crowder's Louder with Crowder, Hollywood in Toto with Christian Toto, and JD Rucker Report. In late 2022, Elsa decided to explore more acting opportunities outside of social media. As of August 2022, Elsa will have appearances in a sketch comedy show & an independent short film series in the fall. Elsa is best known for her comedic style and delivery, & openly conservative values. She is receptive to both comedic and dramatic roles within the wholesome/clean genres & hopes to adapt her books to film in the future. #ifounditonamazon https://a.co/ekT4dNO
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Clay Novak was commissioned in 1995 as a Second Lieutenant of Infantry and served as an officer for twenty four years in Mechanized Infantry, Airborne Infantry, and Cavalry units . He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in 2019.
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Clay is a graduate of the U.S. Army Ranger School and is a Master Rated Parachutist, serving for more than a decade in the Airborne community. He was deployed a combined five times to combat in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Serving in every leadership position from Infantry Platoon Leader to Cavalry Squadron Commander, Clay led American Soldiers in and out of combat for more than two decades.
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Growing up in a family of hunters and shooters, Clay has carried on those traditions to this day. Whether building guns, hunting, shooting for recreation, or carrying them in combat , Clay Novak has spent his life handling firearms.
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Keep Moving, Keep Shooting is the first novel for Clay. You can also read his Blog on this website and see more content from Clay on his Substack.
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Clay has appeared on radio and streaming shows as a military consultant, weighing in on domestic and foreign policy as well as global conflict. He has also appeared as a guest on multiple podcasts to talk about Keep Moving, Keep Shooting and his long military career.
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The Elsa Kurt Show
Why The SAVE Act Fight, Munich Moments, And A Viral Soccer Stat Matter
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We challenge the noise around voter ID, stack Munich’s substance against its theater, and unpack why a casual soccer stat lit up our comments with 4M views. We press for accountability—from ballot rules to budgets to long-stalled investigations—and keep receipts handy.
• What the SAVE Act changes and why it matters
• Why ID arguments about married women and minorities miss the mark
• How verification and enforcement could work at polling places
• State election freedom versus federal baselines
• Munich Security Conference takeaways and Rubio’s speech
• Minnesota’s ask for federal dollars after ICE operations
• Pam Bondi’s tone versus the demand for arrests and outcomes
• Gerrymandering pressure and outside meddling in Maryland
• Culture clash over Silence Of The Lambs and selective apologies
• The soccer viewership stat that outdrew the Super Bowl and why it blew up
“Watch Marco Rubio’s Munich speech this week—you’ll see why we called it his best”
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Elsa Kurt: You may know her for her uncanny, viral Kamala Harris impressions & conservative comedy skits, but she’s also a lifelong Patriot & longtime Police Wife. She has channeled her fierce love and passion for God, family, country, and those who serve as the creator, Executive Producer & Host of the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak. Her show discusses today’s topics & news from a middle class/blue collar family & conservative perspective. The vocal LEOW’s career began as a multi-genre author who has penned over 25 books, including twelve contemporary women’s novels.
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Viral Clip Surprise
SPEAKER_08Well, hello there, stranger. How are you?
SPEAKER_05I'm good. How are you?
SPEAKER_08I am just peachy. Clay and I were just kind of chuckling a bit off air. And um I just want to, before we get into our our regular topics that we have planned, I just want to say congratulations to Clay for going viral, or going mega super viral. Um, that we're aware of on just one platform. That's Instagram. We uh have a video there that hit 2.2 million views uh currently where we're at. And um y'all are gonna be pretty on yours.
SPEAKER_05Yes. Then it got duetted on another one where it picked up another 1.9 million views. So it's somewhere in the 4 million view range. The only time it's ever happened to me. And we will uh when we get to the end, it's baffling because it's not even controversial, folks.
SPEAKER_08It's yeah, wait until you guys hear what it's gonna be about. Um, but before that, we're gonna get right into our topics. Uh, very first topic we want to talk about uh is is that even the right one?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SAVE Act Explained
SPEAKER_08Yeah, okay. Sorry, I I blinked out, guys. I'm like, is that even right? I feel like there was something else that was first. No, we're good. We're talking about the Save Act. Um, if you guys have been watching the coverage, you think that um, you know, something radical, insane was just proposed by the reaction. And that's the part that gets me the most, that the reaction to something that is so matter of course is such a big ruckus. Um, what the bill actually does is to require proof of U.S. citizenship to register to vote in federal elections. Like that's it. That's it. That's the big whoop here. Um, the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act is built around the basic premise that American elections are for American citizens, y'all. Um, shocking, right? So the left response has been predictable, right, Clay? Um, they're framing it as voter suppression, uh, particularly for uh, of course, minorities and married women. Because, you know, we're gonna lose our right to vote because we changed our last name, apparently. Clay, weigh in. What do you think of all this?
SPEAKER_05So Save obviously stands for the uh, and I screw this up so I have it written down. So it's the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, um, which, like you said, is uh it's essentially voter ID, uh, which every single country in the world, besides the United States, requires identification to participate in in national level elections. Um and so yeah, it it is uh photo ID, which is what I think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I think 85% is probably the the mean number that we've seen. 85% of Americans support uh photo ID, voter ID. Um so this isn't anything that America doesn't want, like it's not even close. No uh but you know, like you said, the playbook from the left is um, you know, minorities will be uh, you know, adversely affected, married women. I have seen claims from people as you know noteworthy as Hillary Clinton, uh Secretary Clinton, saying that the rights of women, especially married women, will be taken their right to vote, will be taken away. Um which is so dumb. It is the most saying that is the most racist and most misogynist thing that you can say. To say that that minorities, specifically African Americans um and women are incapable of obtaining a photo ID, which most of them already have, um to say that they're incapable of acquiring those uh is completely downplaying and and really insulting to both of those demographics. It's it's shameful.
SPEAKER_08And to to not even like you you mean to tell me you really don't realize how incredibly insulting and racist that is to say that uh a minority does not have the brain capacity to figure out how to obtain a license. Like, is that I mean, that's because that's the message you're sending is absolutely what you're saying. And you know, to imply that the female population is too feeble-minded to um again be able to figure out how to change their name uh on their social. I think you just change your social security. That's like the only thing. And of course, you have your marriage certificate, your your birth certificate never changes, obviously. That that one stays the same, but um, this is not a complicated, it's an inconvenient process, yes, but it is a process. You do it, it's actually very simple. And um, I'm I feel like we're pretty capable, Hillary. I think we can figure it out.
SPEAKER_05It's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing because think about all the things that we have already that require authority, right? If you want to drive photo ID every state, if you want to purchase alcohol photo in every state, purchase you know, cigarettes, nicotine, whatever, photo ID every state. Um, if you want to go buy a cell phone, right? If you want to get a mortgage, if you want to take a loan from a bank, if you want to start a bank account, if you want to like there literally everything, like little kids like basketball, soccer, traveling teams have photo ID for every on the roster, right? Like that's been going on for decades. This is not a difficult thing, and and and again, it is unbelievably insulting to so many people to say, oh well, you know, there's there's no way that married women can figure this out, you know, because they haven't either their birth certificates has one name and everything else has another name. Too hard. I mean, like, how like if I was a woman, I would be so pissed. Like that is unbelievable. And it's and it's coming from female leadership within the Democratic Party. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. And you know, the only conclusion that you come to, you know, and we we may joke around plenty and call them stupid and and dumb and all those things, but we know damn well that they're not. We we know that the reality of this is this is this is very uh uh academically smart people banking on the stupidity of the common folk, you know, the the easily led. And whoa, what a surprise. Get your handmaid tales costume on and start marching around like a bunch of, well, idiots, useful idiots, and you know, protest because, you know, Hillary and whoever else up at the top there said that that's what's gonna happen. So that must be the case. You know, God forbid you actually do a few seconds of critical thinking and I don't know, an ounce of research to find out if that's true or not, if you're really in doubt. I mean, common sense should tell you that that's absurd and ridiculous and not the case at all. But clearly, common sense has left the room for an extended period of time here. And they they they just yeah, it does, it does boil my blood, Clay, because it is exactly what you said. It is so insulting, it is so ridiculous. And, you know, it's just it it's like the nail in the coffin for the proof that um what they're really freaking out about is not being able to get all of their illegals to vote. You know, this is what it's all about. You know, this is the clearest um indicator, as if there weren't already plenty, that um this is what they're freaking out about. Like if now if you have to prove who you are in person with a photo ID, now we can't rig the elections anymore. So uh too bad, so sad, guys.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, adding insult to injury, they don't actually care, nor do they really think that married women and African Americans can't get an ID. But what they can't say out loud is exactly what you said, and that is you know, well, if we if we take away if it's US citizens only, then the illegals can't vote. So we've got to keep this open. That's the only way, you know, that this works. So they're they're actually using they're exploiting married women and African Americans, right? To say to protect illegal aliens and allow them to vote. They don't actually care whether or not married women or African Americans vote. They care if the millions, although millions less now, but millions of you know, illegal immigrants have the ability to vote in the United States. Um, so you know, and this is this the idea behind the Save Act is it's federal, right? For federal elections. California, at state level, do whatever you want to do.
SPEAKER_08We don't care what you're gonna do.
ID Arguments And Backlash
SPEAKER_05Yeah, Illinois, New York, wherever Texas, every state, you set up your own state level, you know, whatever your your state level Congress decides, you set up your own election laws. But at the federal level, for a federal election, these are the requirements. Um and and that's that's the problem. That's it's gonna be an issue. Uh, and the biggest pushback is from all of the, like you said, all the usual suspects. It's California, it's New York, it's Illinois, it's Minnesota, it's all of those states that are pushing back against this. Um, and the typical, the same people. There is a there is a trend now in social media. I don't know if you've seen this or not, but there are, you know, the conservative reporter on the street kind of folks that are like, how do you feel about voter ID? And they will go, and I've seen probably four or five of these, where they will go to a number of um African Americans, they'll go to a number of uh, you know, Hispanic, Latino, they'll they'll go to Asian, they'll go to everybody but truthfully white people, and they'll say, What do you think of voter ID? And almost all of them will say, I'm all for it. It's a good thing. Only Americans should vote, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they will go to the white 20 somethings, either in college or just out of college, and they'll ask, and they'll be, you know, you'll get the answer, you know, that you expect. Oh, it's racist, it's oppressive, it's this, it's that, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's it's that, again, it's the usual suspects that are buying into the media BS and everything that's coming out of the DNC about this. Uh, and and they're buying it. Hook, line, and sinker. Thankfully, they're they're in that, they're only in that 15% that we're talking about who who is against voter ID. But folks, this has got a they're talking about a filibuster. Uh, you know, the the Dems are because right now it's you know, it's past the house, it's uh about a 50, literally a 50-50 JD Vance um tie breaking vote. It might be 5149 or maybe in 5248, but it is right at the right at the hash mark uh on whether or not the you know this would would pass a majority vote in uh in the Senate. So um we'll see what comes out of it. I I think they have the votes to do it, but we'll we'll see what happens.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, it's so crazy to isn't that clay to even be having this conversation. Like this is one of the most no-duh kinds of things. Like um, it's American elections, it's United States elections. If you're not a citizen, like it's no different than any previous year. Like, there's no argument there, you know, that I don't think there's any argument. Like this has always been the case that you should be um, I don't know, a citizen of the country that you're voting in, paying taxes in it, doing all of the things, but you know, namely being simply a citizen. So there's no reason to not not prove that you're a citizen. There's no reason to be offended by proving that you are who you say you are, you know, and like you said, Clay, and like so many of us have made the point millions of times over, but in almost every facet of life, you need to have identification to prove who you are, to show who you are. So why should this be any different? You show, you know, all of the things that you listed. I mean, I can't get on an airplane without ID. And you know, as we know, that's the most important thing to me to be able to get to those grandbabies. But come on, it's just it's just silly. But I I do have a question though, and I don't know if you can answer this, Clay. What's the actual uh enforcement mechanism, so to speak, of guaranteeing that? Like, is it literally like I know, like speaking of the airport, when you go to the airport to you hand over your ID and they put it or different places different do different things. Um, but most of them, I think now you they put it in this little machine. I don't know what that machine is, but you put it in the little machine, obviously it reads your your identification, whatever code is on there, and spits it back out. I mean, are they would they be doing the same things for voting, having something like that that just like I guess records?
SPEAKER_05I I don't know what the hardware software is gonna be. It may very well be an ID check.
SPEAKER_08Um just a simple like simple verification.
SPEAKER_05Walking into a bar, buying a pack of cigarettes, whatever it is. Um, but that alone will deter people from sure, you know, from you know, from voting, um, you know, illegally voting, right? No nobody, no illegal immigrant, truthfully, is going to try and fake their way into an election booth with a fake ID with risk of being deported.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_05Like that's not happening. Now, if they're given a state ID, right, or they're allowed to go vote and nobody's gonna check it, which is what's going on now, yeah, then of course they're gonna vote. But if they've got to go and present photo ID and the person looks at it and they go, Nope. And not only nope, but this isn't you, and there's probably gonna be security standing there, and there's probably you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06Like all of those things.
SPEAKER_05Right. Um so I I think it's a deterrent in and of itself having the mechanism. Um, I actually will be more curious about what is the um what are the consequences for not actually following the law? So what happens if there's a polling place and they walk in and they're not checking photo IDs? Like what happens there? Does the whole does the whole the whole does that whole polling place get decertified? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like are they gonna, you know, cop in civilian clothes or somebody in civilian clothes, you know, uh walk in there and and run a sting operation with a fake ID and see if they can call or not. Like I don't know how all that's gonna work, but uh I know the idea is to obviously protect the integrity of the election and minimize the amount of voter fraud. And I think this is step one as a deterrent. Um, and I think that the it'll progress and they'll come up with ways of of enforcement like you're talking about.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's a great first step. It's a great start. Um, you know, the obviously the state elections is uh super frustrating, really, when you think of their, you know, freedom to just continue to do this on the local level, to have fraudulent uh elections and all of that nonsense. That's infuriating. Um, and you know, frankly, it every every citizen should have in in their own state who's not following suit with something like this. You should be pissed. Like you should be furious that you because you're discounting your own vote by basically saying, I don't care um that people have to prove who they are in order to vote, because if no matter what side of the aisle is you're you're on, I mean, the the claim has been tossed back and forth so many times, right? Everybody calls everybody a cheater. So why would you not want, you know, why would you not want proof? Why would you not demand that your state legislators do what they need to do to pr pass their own save act, uh, you know, in in their area? I don't know.
SPEAKER_05And again, that's why they are hiding behind the married women, African American, because they're not they they can't come out and say illegal. Yeah, they can't say illegal immigrant, they can't say any of that stuff. So they've got to hide behind something else. Um so what they've decided to do is call a decent part of the American population stupid and incapable. That's exactly that's the direction they're going.
Enforcement And Fraud Deterrence
SPEAKER_08Right. Oh my goodness. All right, let's go global for a minute, or two or three, or five or ten, and talk about uh when went on uh or what's been going on over in Munich. Uh it's the security conference. The Munich Security Conference is supposed to be about serious geopolitical conversation. Instead, we got a little bit of uh political theater there with the likes of AOC and uh few others there. Uh Senator Rubio, my guy, love him, love him. He delivered what many described as a sober defense of Western security priorities. I did watch, I didn't watch all the stuff and things from this, uh, but that was one of the ones I went back and watched the full clip of. And boy, he's just so good. I just love, I just love his delivery. I know some people maybe wouldn't, but I actually love his delivery.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's been it's been called his best speech ever. Um so listen, folks, if you haven't seen it, I recommend you sit and watch it. Um standing ovation at the end of it.
SPEAKER_08Yes, he did.
SPEAKER_05Well deserved. And there's also now, because of that speech, and truly his his ascension in the last probably six months, maybe nine months, there is discussion about who the actual next GOP presidential candidate is going to be. Is it going to be JD Vance, which is what everybody has assumed? Right. Or is it going to be Marco Rubio, who has truthfully been a rock star uh since present since President Trump brought him on? And this speech and his you know, his delivery, the content uh is is so so good.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And and you know, and then on the flip side, you know, the the Dem sent their uh non-all-star team uh proved themselves to be uh non-all-stars. So you know a little bit of AOC, you got a little bit of Hokle, you got a little bit of uh Secretary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and even uh oh Gavin Newsom tried to get over there and nobody would talk to him. So nope, uh you've got a clip, right?
SPEAKER_08I do, I do. So it's a little montage, just a little comparison of uh I think it's uh we've got uh Rubio up first, then it's gonna roll right into AOC, and then it's gonna roll right into Hokel. And y'all just make your own comparisons and and you decide for yourself who who may or may not have done a better job of it. So here it is.
SPEAKER_00Our horses, our ranches, our rodeos, the the entire romance of the Cowboy archetype that became synonymous with the American West. These were born in Spain. And our largest and most iconic city was named New Amsterdam before it was named New York. And now that in the year that my country was founded, Lorenzo and Catalina Giraldi lived in Castano Monferrato in the kingdom of Pieton Sardino. And Jose Manuela Reina lived in Tavilla Spain. That America is starting the path for a new century of prosperity. And that once again, we want to do it together with you, our cherished allies, and our older friends.
SPEAKER_01Um, you know, I think that's uh I think that's the course that uh being um the policy of the United States. Uh and I think what we are hoping for is what we want to be doing for that point. What we want to move towards that we are moving in all of our economic points and our global positions to avoid confrontation for that question on Ukraine. What does victory look like?
SPEAKER_07It is I the two the two that I am on the panel with are much more steeped in foreign policy than it's than a governor is. But um, you know, I do think that Ukraine's independence, keeping their their land mass and having um the support of of all the allies, I think, is is the goal from my vantage point. Go ahead, Ampassor, do a better job.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So we're not hockey. We were wrong on it just.
SPEAKER_08Sorry, yeah, my bad. Yes. Yeah, you really are actually. Uh I think it's just a level level of Botox. Did I say that out loud? I didn't mean to. Sorry. Sorry. Uh try not to make a habit of commenting on other women's appearances. That one slipped out. I do apologize.
SPEAKER_05Um, so AOC had another uh two, maybe three, uh at least two uh missteps in that. Obviously, you know, she's there's discussion of her as a vice presidential or even presidential candidate, and she can't articulate anything regarding our natural national policy or position on defending Taiwan.
SPEAKER_08There was so much fluff, she was right in in line with a Kamala Harris word salad. I mean, if it was a competition, yeah, it could have been a tie there.
SPEAKER_05But then she also uh you know said that Marco Rubio, his the claim about uh, you know, the history and the you know and the roots of of the American West cowboys and those kinds of things coming from the horses from Spain, coming from Spanish.
SPEAKER_06Oh, right, yes.
SPEAKER_05She said, Well, he should probably talk to the Mexicans and African American slaves about that, and not waylaid on social media because she just or understand that the Spaniards brought the first horses to the to North America. So yes, cowboys like that heritage does generate out of Spain. And then the other one she was talking, they asked her about Venezuela, uh, you know, the the uh Maduro raid, and she basically said, um, you know, he he's not an elected leader because he, you know, he he whatever, falsified the election or he canceled the election or blah, blah, blah, blah. And But that doesn't mean we have the right to just remove an elected leader. So she counteracted herself. And then she said, just because the country is south of the equator, which get a globe, young lady, because Venezuela is north of the equator. So she, you know, she she acted like an idiot as as expected. Like I said, Gavin Newsome, nobody would talk to him. And then did you see the clip of uh Secretary Clinton and the I I did see it.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. Tell him a little bit about that one. Yes.
States’ Rights vs Federal Rules
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Um he called her out on TBS just straight up. He uh, you know, he he was discussing with her, said something about you know how cancel cult they've seen from Europe's, you know, at a distance the effect of cancel culture and you know and those kinds of things and talked about how President Trump is doing the right things. Uh and she Secretary Clinton lost her mind and kind of went after him. And you know, and he he was he remained very calm and and uh you know said something about you know, we know there's only two genders, you know, and she jumped in again and said, Well, you know, one of those genders he's trying to take all the rights away from, and blah blah blah, you know, and and he basically looked there and said, I know that this panics you have caused them. And so, yeah, so again, the Dems sent their uh non-all-star team and they they performed up to uh expectations.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, absolutely. And you know, the the proposition of AOC as as their vice presidential uh co-candidate there would be a wonderful, beautiful thing. Please do it, guys. Please, please, please do it.
SPEAKER_05Do you imagine either one, whether it's Vance or Rubio, yeah, in a debate with her, she would end up crying.
SPEAKER_08She would end up crying because it would be so brutal. So, I mean, that's you know, that's like putting um a dragon with a flea in a debate. You know what I mean? Like, I don't even know where the heck that comparison just came up with uh came from, but uh that's the first thing I could think of. Go figure, I don't know. Um yeah, and you know, but and going back to just to kind of go sideways for a second, going back to that question of uh will it be Rubio, will it be Vance? My goodness, that is a tough one, isn't it? I you know, I I can it is I have nothing whatsoever at this point in time, nothing against Vance whatsoever. I'm highly, highly fond of him. I'm highly fond of a Vance pred presidency uh at some point. However, I can also say that in my opinion, um Rubio has a possibly a much wider crossover appeal because he is so steady, he's so calm, he's so um, and not to say that Vance isn't those things. Vance can be certainly fiery, absolutely. And uh and I love that. Um, but Rubio's delivery is just so he's just the stealth bomber. And I, you know, I I think he just comes with straight facts. But yeah, I don't know. I could see it because he's had more experience, he's got more connections. I don't know. I don't know. I love them both, and I would be um pleased with either, but if you really forced me to pick, I would probably say Rubio.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I think if they if Vance, the problem is Vance is the VP, right? And and it would be a bigger problem if he was an eight-year VP. He's not, he's only a four-year VP. So I think there's a he'd have to take a a little bit of humble pie. Um but if they put Rubio in as the presidential candidate and Vance in for another eight years as the vice president, but you know, Rubio used him in such a way uh to to grow him into a president for eight years. Yeah. Gave him a lot of responsibility, gave him a lot of spotlight, like those kinds of things. I think it could be done. Um I I don't know, you know, if if Vance would want to do that or not. Um I don't know if to be honest with you, I don't know if Rubio would want to be the vice president for eight years. Right, right, yes, he might, but he might not. Um so I think you know, I I would really love for both of them to spend eight years as a you know, the next 16 years is our next two presidents. Oh my goodness, yes. I think we're gonna we're gonna hit a crossroads. There's gonna be an issue here in about in about two and a half years where we're gonna have to, you know, figure this out. So we're gonna he's a rock star. Like that guy is a rock star. He's he's on such a like you know, if you think in terms of a pro athlete, like right now he is in his prime and he's firing up all cylinders. So like this would be, you know, pick your favorite athlete, you know. If he walked away, if he did these, you know, this great job, sex state, and then walked away, it would be like when Jordan retired the first time.
SPEAKER_08Yes, oh my goodness.
Munich Security Conference Highlights
SPEAKER_05No, no, he's got he's got so much more left. He's playing so well. He just won three championships, like, don't go anywhere. Um but that's kind of the feeling I would get if he just got up and walked away and didn't yeah, you know, so yeah.
SPEAKER_08I don't know, be so I I'm just um I I don't I wouldn't say I'm anxious about it, but I'm baited breath waiting to see what's gonna happen with that. And you know, hopefully they're gonna go by what um, you know, what the consensus is, what people seem to really want, you know. And I agree that would be very hard, I would imagine, for Vance to step back and step aside or switch roles like that, stay in the same role technically. Um, but at the same time, he's got a great out to be able to do that. His family is growing, you know. Take this time to um, you know, I don't know, give give a little extra focus to that, you know. I mean, it's a great out to say, listen, I don't, I'm, I, I want to be right here, but I'm good with taking just a little step back as my family's growing and coming for you and you know, eight more years, whatever the case is. So we'll see. I will see. It's all speculation, obviously, and no one can know, you know, what's gonna happen, but we'll see. They probably don't even know. I mean, they'd still, you know, I doubt that there is a plan, uh, because so much could happen in such a short period of time, really. You know.
SPEAKER_05Last, last word on this, though, folks. Seriously, if you haven't watched Marco Rubio's speech, go find it and watch it. It's uh the best thing you'll see on TV probably this week.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I agree. Loved it, loved it. Uh, here's something I don't love. Don't love. Zero stars do not recommend. Oh, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy. Uh so Tim's demanding federal funds over IC. Um, so basically enforce the law send the bill. Now let's talk about Governor Walsh demanding federal dollars to fix what ICE broke. I love the irony in this, don't you? Um, Minnesota governor arguing that immigration enforcement actions have harmed local communities and that the federal government should pay to repair the damage. Um this is one of those moments I want to put on my my Greta Thunberg and say, how dare you? How dare you? But I mean it. How dare you, you tiny little man, you absurd little man. Go ahead, Clay, because all I can come up with is rude things to say at the moment.
SPEAKER_05So he he what he's asking for is$200 million, I think is the figure of federal funds to, like you said, Elsa, to repair things that were broken, quote unquote. Um and and there's no like there's no accounting for this, folks. There's no like profit and loss statement that's gonna come with this to say, hey, we lost X amount of dollars in this category and X amount of dollars in this category, and you know, our roads need to be repaired, and that's gonna cost X amount of, you know what I mean? There's none of that. This is a just a swag. This is just a number they're throwing out there. And um, but he's asking for$200 million of federal funds after losing nine billion dollars in fraud federal funds. Uh yeah, with a B. Nine with a B, nine billion dollars in federal funds to the Somali, all the Somali fraud that's going on in uh in Minneapolis. So um I, you know, one, the audacity to even ask for this is unbelievable.
SPEAKER_08Again, how dare you?
SPEAKER_05But yeah, you know, Waltz has never been known to be a smart guy. We we learned that very quickly in the last few months of the last election, how dumb he actually is. Um so asking for it shouldn't be a surprise. Um I I I know that the entire White House, not even the close staff, but everybody on the staff at the White House uh is probably itching to be the person to tell him to go F himself.
SPEAKER_06Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it it is crazy. And I and I have not seen a response. Have you seen a response, a statement? I have I haven't.
SPEAKER_08I haven't. And I think no response is probably the best response, right? Like almost like, yeah, we're not even you're not even getting a response for this. We're not even reacting to it. You get nothing. You get nothing, sir. No anything. The the absolute, like you said, the absurdity to call for chaos, which is what he did, called for the citizens to behave like absolute lunatics. He called for chaos, and now he wants to send the invoice for that chaos to Washington. I don't think so. And then I'm pretty sure that that's what they're saying too. Like they're probably laughing about it and you know, I don't know, throwing tampons at a picture of him or something.
SPEAKER_05It is, yeah. So, you know, you can claim a lot of things, uh, but again, this this is very much the same as you know, I say the other things that we're talking about, and that's the lack of self-awareness of you know, like who the DNC, who the Dems pick to represent them at the Munich Security Conference, to, you know, knowingly send AOC, uh, Whitmer, you know, Secretary Clinton, and and Gavin Newsom, like that's your representation. Um for that to happen and then to have this happen with Waltz, to be shocked by it. I think we're all like I including myself, like I'm an idiot for being shocked by this.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Because we should just come to expect this level of dumb uh on a daily basis. Uh but for whatever reason, it continues to put me on my heels every time something like this happens. Um, and even more so, you know, I shouldn't be surprised by Waltz because he's dumber than the rest. And yet this is what we get.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I mean, he the he he and and those of his ilk all do that same thing of I just imagine like them sitting around listening to all this stuff and you know, hearing not necessarily us, but uh other people, pundits, um, commenter, commentators, you know, all of those things saying things like he can't possibly be dumber, like he can't get more stupid and he's like, hold my beer, hold my beer, yes, I can. Yeah, yeah, can I be as dumber, I could be as dumber as that. Yeah. Um, I mean, so yeah, I feel like it's like a uh competition with himself to be more absurd each time that he opens his mouth and and does something. So yeah, I just can't even. It's too silly, it's too silly and it's too dumb. Um, and it is, you know, I'm laughing and we're laughing about everything. And it it's technically like we know, guys, it's not funny because it's at, you know, the the citizens' uh expense and and all of our expense, really, to some degree. So for that, it's not funny at all, but it's like sometimes all you can do is just laugh a little bit about it and shake your head. So I don't think he's gonna get anything. Do you think he's gonna get anything?
SPEAKER_05I don't think he's gonna get a dime, but I I would make him itemize it and then I would audit, and then I would audit the submission. Oh, I like that based on based on the level of fraud that's happened in that state.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_05I would tell him, You want 200 million dollars, itemize it for me. I want to know every penny, uh, what everything is gonna cost, where you got this this amount from. Then I would audit everything he submitted, uh, and and and then probably at the end of it all, after making it extremely painful, not give him a dime. Uh just because uh I love that. Yeah, it it's it's ridiculous. It's amazing.
SPEAKER_08And in reality, right, Clay, he's probably just blustering, right? Like he's just you know, making some noise to make it look good and sound good, make him feel like a tough guy.
SPEAKER_05Which, you know, you know, is his legacy's destroyed. Yeah, that's already gone, and and he's already said he's not running for office again. So I don't know what he thinks that he he or anyone else is gonna gain out of this except to make it look like President Trump and the GOP don't care about the people of Minnesota or you know, blah, blah, blah. Listen, folks, no one in the GOP ever anticipates winning an election in Minnesota.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_05When when President Reagan ran for re-election, right, and he he won 49 states. You know which state didn't win? Minnesota, right? No one ever expects no GOP and no Republican ever expects to win anything out of Minnesota. So he can Waltz can bluster all he wants and he can try and make the you know the GOP, the Republicans look bad. In his state, it doesn't matter, truthfully. It does nothing. It doesn't help him, it doesn't hurt him, it doesn't do anything to anybody. He's just running his mouth and looking dumb because it's not affecting any voting or any elections of any kind.
Rubio vs AOC Takeaways
SPEAKER_08Nope, nope, absolutely true. But nonetheless, we'll keep watching to see what happens there. Uh, let's see. Next up, let's talk about Pam Bondi. Um, so you got some conservatives who are cautiously optimistic, others are very wary of uh what Pam's been doing or not doing, I guess, depending on your perspective. Um, she has a record as Florida's attorney general, and she's been vocal in defense of Trump. Those are all the givens. Um, question isn't really whether she's loyal, the question is whether she's independent enough. At least this is a question some people are asking. If she's independent enough to pursue justice cleanly and consistently. So um I I have very mixed feelings about her, to be perfectly honest. I I championed for her early on. I liked her, I liked how she presented, I liked that she seemed to have that tough stance, all of those things. It's kind of hard right now, Clay, isn't it, to see what she's actually doing. I mean, I I just feel like not enough is happening, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I mean, how many times have you said, I said, people, everybody across every platform that you can monitor? Where are the arrests? That's what we want. That's what President Trump got you know elected on. You know, the Epstein files are the the easy answer. Um, nobody still to this day has been arrested. Um, you know, we could go through a whole bunch of things that she hasn't uh accomplished. The and and again, that's why we're conflicted. That's you and I had this discussion even before we started recording. Um, you know, she did present herself. And remember, folks, she was the second choice for this job.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Um, you know, it was uh was it Gates. Matt Gates, right, was supposed to be the attorney general. Um basically everybody told President Trump he's not getting competitive.
SPEAKER_06Don't do it.
SPEAKER_05So they they pulled him, he dropped out whatever it was, and then they put Fam Bonti in there, and she made it through. And so she's second choice for the job. Um, she's a whatever you want to call it, a firebrand, a bulldog. She doesn't, you know, she doesn't, she's not a pushover. No. Um but at the same time, you know, she went into Congress this past week and testified and was in there and she was wagging her finger, you know, she was talking smack to you know, members of Congress, uh, making accusations, making offhand comments. Truthfully, she probably should have been held in contempt uh for the way she was acting. But but at the same time, zero humility. Zero, right? And and you know, in the sense of we all want the arrests, we all want tangible results, right? She got put in that job, President Trump got elected into office so that these people would be held accountable. We we collectively, and I don't care what party you're in, we collectively have not seen accountability that we anticipated um, you know, in November of 2024 when we all went to the voting booth.
SPEAKER_08So yeah, frankly, I'm sorry, go ahead.
SPEAKER_05No, she's she's to me it's it's been a continual disappointment in her performance. And last week was a prime example of that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I mean, to put it plainly, we have wanted from day one to see heads roll. We want the heads to roll. We don't care um who they are. We genuinely, and and you know, that is the biggest misconception from the left regarding the right and our loyalty to uh specific people, whether it be Trump or somebody else. I don't care about any of them. If you're guilty of any of these things, I want your head to roll. I don't care who you are. I absolutely don't. Yes, I would be disappointed if it were people that I have spoken up for and defended and all of those things. Sure, but it's not nearly enough to not want to see those heads roll. Uh I just caught before we did this, I was kind of scrolling through looking for uh things about this, about the Pam Bondi situation. And I came across, I'm sure you know who he is, uh Sean Ryan. Uh he went off. And I'm gonna share with you guys, and I want to forewarn you that uh he does drop a couple F bombs in here. So if you're sensitive, um, I don't know what to tell you. Don't watch, turn it down, block your ears. I'm not sure what to what to tell you with that, but just letting you know Pam Bondi in front of Congress the other day talking about how the Dow's up to 50,000.
SPEAKER_03Nobody gives a fuck because what you should be talking about is how you are going to investigate and prosecute any pedophiles that are running around on Epstein Island that you're affiliated with, but we didn't talk about that, did we?
SPEAKER_08Like where are the arrests? And yeah, so I think that kind of sums it up, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, for those of you that don't know Sean Ryan, so he was uh he was a Navy SEAL um back all the way as early, I think, as pre-9-11. Um, spent, I think, maybe eight or ten years or so uh in the SEAL teams in the Navy, and then got out and went into the CIA and was a uh ground branch, you know, um action guy for CIA for a few years and then and then got out of that. Um so he's got a he's got a pretty diverse background. He's a sharp guy. Uh he's not afraid to take people on. Uh it's it's a good podcast and great live interviews, and he's got great varied topics, everything from my goodness.
SPEAKER_08He's got some incredible guests.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, some great guests that are on there. So but that that sentiment that you got out of him right there is consistent all the time. It is about accountability, it is about you know, focusing on the things that we all want to see happen and not things that, you know, the shiny object over here, hey, the Dow's at 50,000, which she actually said. Um it's become a meme, by the way. I don't know if you've seen it, it's been a number of things.
SPEAKER_08I haven't seen it yet. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05Like uh, you know, a lady sitting in her car, police officer walks up, it's like, do you know how fast you were going? And she says, Did you know the Dow's at 50,000? You know, I mean, it's like it's gotten that bad. Um, but Sean's sentiment uh is exactly where the rest of us are at. And that is whether it's Epstein or really anything else that's going on. Like, why has uh Governor Waltz not been indicted? Right. Where's that at, right? Yeah, where is it?
SPEAKER_08Come on, this is about as clear as it gets.
SPEAKER_05Like all of these things that we're all expecting action on, and and nothing's happening. Like, where, you know, so um he voiced it for a lot of us, uh, and and you know, that's uh that's why I'm disappointed in her. I'm disappointed in the performance thus far because she's not doing the simplest things. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Um, Clay, this next one you put that out there, and I really did, I really did want to say no to it, Clay, because I cannot even stand. I can't. I can't. I know it makes me a bad person. I know, can't stand them so much so that I'm not even talking about them, Clay. You talk.
Minnesota Funds Fight And Fraud
SPEAKER_05So for those of you, this is one of those, like we we talk collectively about election interference uh in a lot of ways. We talk about Russia Gate. We talk about, you know, the the Dem stealing the election in, you know, from President Trump in 2020, right? We talk about election interference in a lot of ways. This to me is the most blatant election interference um that no one is talking about. And so you've got Hakeem Jeffries, um, who obviously is a state level uh or a state-elected federal level official, right? So he's a congressman um for the state of New York. Uh and so right now, what you've got going on in Maryland is a vote on redistricting uh for their elections. Uh, and the it's about gerrymandering, a hundred percent. And so they're talking about redistricting to the point where it uh basically eliminates the single standing Republican uh, you know, in the state of Maryland. And the one person who is is stopping this from happening is the Democratic governor of Maryland. Okay, this is a guy, and I don't know Maryland well, I don't know this governor well, but he is a guy who has said, this is not right. Like this entire gerrymandering, we're doing this on purpose, we're trying to make sure that there's no Republicans, this is not right, and it doesn't represent Maryland the way that it should. And he is the one who is stopping this from happening at this point. And so Hakeem Jeffries, again, an elected official from the state of New York who is a congressman, has said out loud that he may have to go down there or he may have to call the governor of Maryland and make sure that this gets fixed. Now, what in the world? Yeah, what influence does he think he has or should have or have any part of in a state where he is not a a resident? You know, like Where does he get off being from New York? I understand he's a congressman. I don't care. He that's not his state. Stay out of it. You know, if if the elect the congressman from Maryland want to get involved, different discussion. But you're from New York, buddy. Stay out of it. That to me is blatant election interference, and he should have nothing to do with anything politics-wise outside of his state. I don't care if he's a congressman or not. If it's not yours, don't touch it.
SPEAKER_08Yep.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_08Stay in your lame hakeem.
SPEAKER_05Oh, God.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. Yeah. He's uh everything he does, I find infuriating, offensive, obnoxious, uh self-aggrandizing, you name it, he does it and he's just absurd. Yeah, he's just absurd. He's got to go.
SPEAKER_05He's another one of those that I think truthfully is just not smart. I really don't. Like watching him speak, watching him act in public, like I really do not believe he is that intelligent. Uh and I and again, it makes me wonder in the same vein of AOC and some others, like, how did this guy get elected? And how does he continue to get elected? Because he just does not put off a vibe that he is he is all that uh all that intelligent.
SPEAKER_08Yep, yeah. What do they call him? The wish version or the teamwersion of uh Obama. Yeah, Tumo Obama. Right. Oh my goodness. So yeah, so that's that. Um, I I cannot wait for the day when he just gets shoved right out of office because it'll happen hopefully someday.
SPEAKER_06Or later it will.
SPEAKER_08Hopefully, hopefully. Uh let's go on to this one here. Oh, they just make us so tired. Like you just are so absurd. So um Silence of the Lambs. Uh, for anyone old enough to remember or who's just a movie buff and likes those old movies, um, I am a um uh fan of um Anthony Hopkins. I uh adore Anthony Hopkins as an actor, he's one of my favorite all-time actors. Um so that's not my type of movie, actually, but I watched it because of him. It is an iconic movie. So the guy who played Buffalo Bill, who is Ted Levine, is how you pronounce his last name. Thank you. Um, iconic role. Everybody knows the the line. If you say, maybe you don't even know where you heard this from, but if you ever say in your lifetime it puts the lotion on, then you are a silence of the lambs fan, you know. And uh so anyhow, uh he played Buffalo Bill, and he recently, uh I guess it was in an interview, yes, or some type of public thing, he expressed regret over the role amid transgender criticism. He argued that the character contributed to harmful stereotypes. He insists that he never, here's the interesting part. He insists that he never played Buffalo Bill as gay or transgender, and he described him instead as a effed up heterosexual man. And this, very interestingly now, this aligns with director Jonathan Demi's 2014, 2014 explanation that the character's obsession with becoming a woman was just another way to escape his self-loathing, not genuine gender dysphoria. So that in itself is interesting that they apparently always said that or always uh you know portrayed it that way. Um, but anyhow, I guess the nuance clearly got lost in translation for audiences over the recent uh, I don't know, decade, yeah, or so. The character is explicitly described as not being transgender, gent transgender. Yet now, because of everything being about transgenderism and their sensitivities and their feelings, um, now we have to dust off this movie from more than a decade. Well, two decades, two, what was it, 1991? This it was written into the script, 1990. Okay, yeah. So going back quite a while now. Um, we gotta dust it off, bring it all the way up to 2026 and say, everybody look at me about this movie and this character in this role, and now I regret it. Like it's the role that put you on the map as an actor. I actually watched, does anybody know the show, um, the series Monk? I watched the, yeah. Um, I watched that like way long after it ended, and I just caught it uh streaming and I binge watched it because I like uh the lead actor there. And the whole time I did not know that the guy who played the chief was him, was Ted Levine, Buffalo Bill, one and the same. And I finally at some point, like near the end of the series, I was like, who is that actor? Anyhow, he does look kind of familiar to me, but I can't place it. And I was like, What? So yeah, funny, like jarring uh realization there for me. But all I can say, guys, is this is so silly. You're retroactively apologizing for a character in a film that is more than 20 years old, and that is frankly irrelevant now. It is not your or my or anyone's responsibility to cater to the feelings of any certain population enough with the nonsense already, and enough of the virtue signaling and I'm an ally crap and all of this stuff. Like, dude, nobody even cared. And if they did, it's such a small percentage of people. You're trying, you're you know, you're just trying to be uh important again, basically, and and get in good with a certain crowd.
SPEAKER_05I can't so Levine, you're right. Levine has a he the guy has an amazing career, uh, and he does so many bit parts that people don't connect the dots, right? And then all of a sudden they're like, oh my god, that's and it's his voice, right? His voice is so yes, it is very distinct. Um, but you know, he's been he was in the original Fast and the Furious movie, right? People don't realize that, right? He was in the um last like uh of the three Chris Pratt Jurassic Park movies, he was in the second one of those, right? He was you know, there's the guy he has one of those careers in IMDB that you go, oh my god, that was him. Oh my god, that was him. But Buffalo, Buffalo Bill, you know, the character itself, if like you're worried about you know, uh him being uh trans, or the guy was one of the most sinister, evil characters ever. He had so you know, the psychological issues inside of that character, like even if he was trans, are the least of the issues. Like the guy was a kidnapper, he was a murderer, he filleted people, like it's crazy, like all of the horrible things, and and they're like, Oh, well, it makes trans people look bad. No, it makes people look bad, like the guy was a lunatic, you know. I mean, yeah, it's all and and so so there's all of that. And yeah, no, Levine shouldn't have gone back and apologized for this. It is, you know, like you said, it's it's this virtue signaling, whatever you want to call it. But but folks, the fact that the trans community and I and I'm probably gonna upset some people when I say this, but just two days ago, by the way, folks, we're we're actually recording uh early this week. Today's Tuesday. Uh it is early afternoon now, almost uh 5 p.m. Uh uh on the East Coast. Um but yesterday, or was the day before, there was a shooting at a Rhode Island hockey ring by a transgender male to female who came in, shot his ex-wife, shot his child, I think shot her, her parents, and some other people. There's you know, a number of wounded uh in in and amongst us. Um and has has anybody, and oh by the way, he's not the first. The la if you go back and look at the last probably 20 mass shootings, um, a vast majority of them were conducted by trans people.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
Pam Bondi, Accountability, And Epstein Files
SPEAKER_05Um, this is not, I'm not making this up. You can look it up for yourself. Um, but I I have have you, I know I haven't, but I'm pretty sure you haven't either. Have you heard anybody from the trans community come out and apologize for the conduct of one of their own?
SPEAKER_08What a phenomenal point, Clay. What a phenomenal point. Nope.
SPEAKER_05They have not.
SPEAKER_08Not a one.
SPEAKER_05But they want everybody to apologize to them for a 30-year-old character in a 30-year-old movie that makes them potentially look bad, right? How about take accountability for your own demographic, your own right people, uh your trans community, right, and and step up, right? And take accountability for that and apologize for the conduct of those of your own. If you want to be accepted, right, which is what they all claim they want, they want to be accepted as equals, right? Take accountability, own up to it. Tell let everybody know, yes, this individual is trans. Yes, this individual is part of our community. We apologize for the conduct of someone from our community. You'll never get that from them. And because of that, no one should ever apologize for something like what Levine apologized for. Right. Because until you own your own problems, I'm not apologizing for jack. Nothing. And you should never ask for one. So I don't want to hear it from anybody.
SPEAKER_08Oh, I am so on board. I'm I am mentally slow clapping, uh, giving you a standing ovation for that one because I'm right there with you on it. And um uh I'm also right there with I don't really care who agrees and disagrees with that, disagree all you want, but that is such a phenomenal point that you know, you you want all of these things, you want these apologies and and uh grand statements from people for your community, for the your community's hurt and suffering and and pain and anguish. Yet when someone from your community uh creates an act uh uh of violence, um nothing crickets. So yeah, yeah, I think you said it perfectly. Um I just mentioned what a segue. I just mentioned our comments. It's the topic we've been waiting to get to all well, not all day, but all all episode, I guess. Clay, um we we bothered people apparently with the you did, yes, is is mainly you, but apparently some of them were mad at me too, at my reaction, which we'll get to, which is even funnier to me. Like it's funny enough. So last week, Clay and I we talked about the Super Bowl. And um, as I do with every episode that we do, I um make some clips from you know, reels, whatever you want to call them, reels, shorts, um, TikTok videos, call them whatever you want. They're just short form videos from the show. And um I, you know, make a whole bunch of them and I take a selection of them and I put them out and uh on the different platforms. And to be perfectly honest, I don't think about them ever again. I just put them out there and people, you know, comment or not, and that's that. Well, I did the same thing last week as I always do, and one of those clips was uh a short one from uh about our discussion about the Super Bowl. Well, that bugger went um viral, as we said at the top of the show, over two uh 2.2 million views on my channel. There's another soccer devoted channel um that has another two million or something like that. And um, Clay is the one that pointed it out to me, sends me a text. He's like, You know that video is going viral. I'm like, which one? What are you talking about? And he's like, the Super Bowl one. And I'm like, the Super Bowl one. And I'm thinking, oh, was that where we must have been talking about bad bunny and everybody's all up in arms? Well, the answer to that is no, it wasn't that, guys. It wasn't that. It was, it was um, let's see, do I have do I have the actual video? I'll put up the actual video. Let's see, here it is.
SPEAKER_05Let's see if this is their goal, and I Americans are not gonna want to hear this. You know me, I'm a soccer guy, okay? My favorite statistic of the day was that about a hundred, somewhere between 155 and 160 million people watched the Super Bowl. Okay. The pinnacle of American sport, the Super Bowl, single game, 160 million people. Sunday morning, there was a regular season, non-playoff, nothing, just a regular season English soccer match between Manchester City and Liverpool that had 750 million watchers. What? Okay, what so yeah, no kidding. And that's not an exaggeration, folks. You can look it up, but that's reality. Okay.
SPEAKER_08That's it. That's all it was, guys. It's all it was. Very simple, just a quick uh, you know, back and forth here. And well, let me tell you, let's see. I'm just, I don't even know which ones I'm pulling up here, but I'm pulling up random. So you got yelled at for having the audacity, how dare you, to call it soccer instead of football. Um, so the comment for those of you listening and not watching, uh this guy or girl, I don't know, says, if you are a quote unquote soccer guy, stop calling it like that. It's called football. It has a ball and it's played with the feet. And I'm saying it like that because there's lots of exclamation points. The other thing is played with an egg-shaped thing and it's played with the hands. It should be called hand egg. The rage in that comment is hilarious to me. Um, so uh let me just defend you, Clay, not that you need my defending. He knows he knows what it's actually called. It was within the context of the conversation, and it's referred to here as soccer. So we're talking primarily. Yes, we have some international uh audience member, but generally we're speaking to American audiences who are very keyed into American football. Um, it really was not intended, right, Clay, to create such offense.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I and listen, I I do we were talking in context of the Super Bowl versus you know a soccer match, and and to go back and forth and say, you know, football or American football, football, American football would have been confusing for everybody. Yeah, it's just easier to say football and soccer. I can tell you that in my house and in my personal conversations, I do refer to it as football. I do refer to it as a pitch, I do refer to it them as boots and not cleats. I do use all of the normal lingo that goes along with it, but to say that to the audience and during the discussion that we were having was just going to cause confusion. But again, people only saw that clip. They did not bother to look at the larger context of the conversation and they got upset. So what else you got?
SPEAKER_08There's more what else? Let's see, what else? Um, oh, this somebody who must be international said Americans thinking Super Bowl is the biggest sporting vent is wild laughing emojis. Cricket gets more views than Super Bowl. Facts. And I feel like he like did the whole like you with the hands, like facts when he said that. Um okay. I mean, it again, context of the conversation. Nobody is arguing that. As a matter of fact, you were actually arguing for the the like he was really making your your own point to some degree because you were talking about how much bigger it is internationally, soccer.
SPEAKER_05And that the NFL is chasing an international audience and they're trying to expand their market. And the numbers that they're trying to chase are numbers like that Man City Liverpool game of 750 million people, and that's having more games overseas, and that's why they're having people like Bad Bunny not speaking English at the halftime show. That was the context of the conversation. But again, people react the way they react.
SPEAKER_08They sure do. What else? There are a couple more. Let's see. Oh, this part. So I was scrolling for comments and I see this one, and I almost scrolled right past it. And then I stopped and I went, Oh, wait, there's he's talking about me. What? What's his problem with me? I barely said anything. Well, it's that I had the audacity again to say what. So uh this person says that she said what is crazy to me. Are Americans living in this planet with us or not? Um, well, I guess not. And so this guy, Phila, I don't know, whatever his name is. Um, dude, I am so sorry that I am I don't watch sports anymore. So I do not have any scope of understanding of what is going on even here, sports-wise. You know why? Because I don't really care. So I'm sorry that that angered you to the point of distraction that you had to actually leave a comment that you were annoyed that I said what in surprise at hearing the numbers. So, I mean, I I there's nothing to backpedal here on that. I was surprised, and that's that. So emotional over it. Uh, let's see. We got one more, I think, on this one. Let's see, one more comment. Um, let's see. Oh, he says the problem with Americans is that they never want to know what's happening outside America. Everything is about America. I sometimes question the education system in America. I think it's very poor because most of them know nothing about the world. They don't even know the difference between a country and a continent. Such a shame. So, yeah, I mean, uh there were so many big feelings in the comments section of this. And uh, you know, I could you have ever imagined that such a simple short little clip of nothing that seemed conf controversial at the time became so controversial.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, not and certainly not to grab the attention that it got at all. Um again, so you know, folks, no kidding, four million views across two accounts. I and we don't even know if it's gone anywhere else. That's just what's been, you know, what we've found between Elsa's account and this other account. Um, and so but there are thousands and thousands of comments across the spectrum, both you know, supporting what we were talking about, and then examples like we we just showed you. Um, but uh yes, of all of the things that Elsa and I have talked about for the last two and a half years, uh that is the thing that got has gotten the most attention, not even not remotely controversial, not remotely politically driven, nothing, but that is what has caught fire. So funny.
SPEAKER_08So crazy, so crazy funny. You never know what's going to uh cat catch the attention of people and and you know provoke all of the emotions from them. And um, I don't know, you know, I joke I jokingly apologize, but please don't ever take that as an actual apology. I'm not even remotely sorry. I'm not sorry for saying what uh clay is not sorry for making the comparison between the sports, um, which was again part of a larger conversation. And I I think even the caption for that basically lets people know like, hey, this is part of a show. There's actually more to this. You know, you can watch uh Thursday nights at 9 p.m. Eastern if you'd like to cat the full story of what we're talking about or or not, just comment angrily.
SPEAKER_05We're here every week.
SPEAKER_08We're here every week, kids. Oh my goodness. Well, that was fun. We um listen, whether you love us or hate us in that comment section, we appreciate you. So thank you. And uh we look forward to um creating more viral videos for you, I guess. I don't know. Oh, Clay, you go ahead and and send them off for this week.
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SPEAKER_05Folks, we we do appreciate it. Uh, you know, I I mean most of those views were not from our regular listeners and watchers, and uh, you guys who are with us every week, we appreciate you. Uh and uh, you know, we always look for what we say it all the time. We look forward to doing this for you uh because you you've been supporting us, you know, from the get-go, and uh, and and we love y'all and support and we appreciate the support. So uh we will see you, like we said, next this week and then again next week. And uh until then, from me, keep moving, keep shooting.
SPEAKER_08Take care, guys. We'll see you in the next one.
SPEAKER_04The headlines will change by tomorrow, but the patterns won't. Thanks for spending this time with us. We'll be back to keep asking the harder questions and telling the quieter truths. Until then, stay grounded, be discerning, and we'll see you next time.