J2cast: Prepping

J2cast: Prepping to mask or not to mask Vol 2 Ep3

April 10, 2020 Jeff Allender Season 2 Episode 3
J2cast: Prepping
J2cast: Prepping to mask or not to mask Vol 2 Ep3
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J2cast: Prepping
J2cast: Prepping to mask or not to mask Vol 2 Ep3
Apr 10, 2020 Season 2 Episode 3
Jeff Allender

Jesse and Jeff discuss the ongoing quarantine and the choice of which mask to use or if a mask is even a good idea. 

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Jesse and Jeff discuss the ongoing quarantine and the choice of which mask to use or if a mask is even a good idea. 

spk_1:   0:03
Welcome back. This is Volume two Episode three of the J to cast the prepping podcast. Do as usual and Jeff joined by Jesse. Jesse, how you doing? I'm doing really good point out. I'm gonna point out that the bed music's changed this A new intro. This is my friend Carson Alexander out of Austin, Texas. I asked him

spk_0:   0:29
to work on some bumper music force He said he would, and with the current

spk_1:   0:37
quarantine situation, he has not been able to get to the studio and do anything. So he just sat down the other night. I played this for Facebook, and so I got ahold of him. I said, Do you mind if I just use this until what you're really working on? It's finished, he said. Sure, go ahead. So I took a little clip of that. That's the reason for the intros. Natural is here. The stuff we've been using is just royalty free that I got when we first started it up. I've never particularly liked

spk_0:   1:05
it. Yeah, well, it was the the best of what was on the bottom of the barrel.

spk_1:   1:11
Well, everything royalty free to me. Sounds like it's either meant for a school documentary. You know, like introduction to crosswalks, that type of thing or form or adult oriented fare?

spk_0:   1:31
Yeah, Plumber, the pizza guy having so

spk_1:   1:35
it never I only there's not much of it out there that I could let's do and go That's got some soul bind that's got some feeling it's very manufactured s o. I asked Carson Carson. I have known each other for lot longer. An apparent lack. You remember right now he used to tour with a, uh, with the, uh uh, the blue Edmondson van. We met him through their great guy, one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. And, ah, just a kind of person that pick up a guitar and play it naturally. I mean, the guy has forgot more. Then, uh, I'll ever learned. So glad to have Carson helping us out

spk_0:   2:15
there. I've never had that never had the pleasure of actually meeting human person. But after sampling some of his work, I I do have to agree that he has a and in a natural ability that, to me just basically equates to sorcery.

spk_1:   2:30
Now, speaking of Carson there and I'm not making fun of him um, but him and I have a mutual friend, another person from Austin who is a Bernie supporter. And Bernie did drop out of the race as of yesterday.

spk_0:   2:45
So four weeks of socialism was all he could take.

spk_1:   2:48
Well, I I gotta tell you, I I don't agree with Bernie on anything. I don't think I'm from hairstyles

spk_0:   2:59
toe politics to anything else. But the only thing I disagree with you, mom, is if he actually admitted that he looks like one of the Muppets.

spk_1:   3:07
But I feel bad for Bernie supporters at the same time, I kind of admire them because I really think if Bernie were Catholic, he's really in the line for the new patron saint of

spk_0:   3:25
lost causes. There you go. And, uh, that would be a heck of a diversion for him, but, well,

spk_1:   3:33
the d A. And I don't want to do political in this. I just want to cover his real quick because the DNC is not going to let him get any farther than he gets. No,

spk_0:   3:41
They use him to stir up a hornet's nest of of low information people with high ambitions and no riel thoughts of practical application to get them whipped up into her fervor. And now what they do? They dumped him in the lap of of creepy uncle dementia.

spk_1:   3:59
Well, I think what? Well, and I think that's it. I think what they do with Bernie is they say, go out there, do your thing, make a lot of promises. Get people old into this that way are really candidate can go. Why? I'm not Bernie.

spk_0:   4:15
Yeah, well, so they they use him is like an opener. The pepper. Really?

spk_1:   4:20
Yeah. Well, I think they're I think the using as you know, this doesn't smell was bad when you just went by the feedlot.

spk_0:   4:32
Oh, yeah, Yeah, it's Yeah, unwashed hobo versus, you know, feedlot in the summer. So Okay, I

spk_1:   4:40
really think that, um I just get the feeling that Bernie supporters God love him, you know, every day they get up and they put in that old, worn out copy of Lion King on VHS. And every day they think today's the day my fossil lives. Today he makes it.

spk_0:   4:59
I wanna harken back. Just a slight reference to Einstein's definition of insanity. But But I digress.

spk_1:   5:11
That's what's on the docket for today, Jeff. Well, I feel there's some things I got thinking of and I said, I don't wanna get pull political. I'm just saying this because and I'm not even getting into the Republicans versus Democrats. This is just what the Democrats do to Bernie

spk_0:   5:24
Bernie's. Just give that

spk_1:   5:26
some thoughts I had today as the things that will happen before Bernie Goetz. The Democratic nod,

spk_0:   5:34
an actual alien invasion is that on your list, all

spk_1:   5:37
doctors and us will decide that they really want to help people and will take a valid poverty before Bernie Goetz. The Democratic nomination the Fed will regret recommend we return to the gold standard before Bernie gets the nomination. Chevy and Ford owners fan Boys will come together and admit that both companies have had good ideas but no pars. Air still ugly and prone to rust, Harley Davidson will start adding a cup holder to the side of all engines so you can make you take heavy cream and make butter. Won't you idle? Hey, like early I was inter Bessie. They shake. That's yes, yes, they dio like him don't like him. They shake.

spk_0:   6:30
Okay, I own a handful of Harleys I own a couple of Honda's I, uh my my Honda I

spk_1:   6:36
used to have I went right in with some hardly guys started mine. They started all there is, I look down. Mine was the only engine, not just video like that. It looked like mine was the only one with motor mounts is what it looked like. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, Trump will pardon Joe exotic and appoint him secretary of the Interior before No, wait. That one don't count because Trump is actually looking at pardoning Joe exotic. So he said he

spk_0:   7:07
would look into it. It was a joke because people hate people. Keep acting as though this is something serious that that that somehow, you know, method Tigers equal success.

spk_1:   7:19
Benny Hand, Joe Austin and T. D. Jakes will convert their churches, the homeless shelters and take a Vow properties before Bernie Goetz the Democratic nomination. And finally, Jeffrey Epstein will come back into a director's commentary of the missing video, where he explains how he killed himself before.

spk_0:   7:47
Okay, so for the DNC, So with that math for the DNC to actually give Bernie Sanders the nod for presidential nomination, that means Hillary Clinton will I have to either be in prison or joined Linda Tripp? It's

spk_1:   8:08
funny you should mention, because that's actually my next step. Here is way. We talk about prepping, accidental segue way. Part of prepping is survival. Yeah, I would just like to acknowledge the gold medal standard of survival is to make it to 70 years old after testifying against the Clinton. Yes. And And you die unquestionably.

spk_0:   8:39
She so Linda Tripp has made the Goldstein.

spk_1:   8:41
I think about how many people would go. She kept tapes of Monica talking about her and Bill And what earned Bill we're going to do to discredit another case. Yeah. So not only did she get tapes of Monica doing this about a court case, right? I mean, look at the other people have thought to testify. Yeah, she also got tapes that proved that Monica and Bill were having the affair. She knew about the blue dress? Yes, and she lived to 70. Yes, no suicide

spk_0:   9:21
because she left the microfiche in the pew legs in the abandoned church. Wait. Wrong movie. Um,

spk_1:   9:28
I think she's the gold medal standard for survival when you can testify and re record tapes they're used. Hand them over to the Jeffrey to the Starr investigation, duel it and lived to be 70.

spk_0:   9:44
I I got to say she she was definitely the mistress of C Y O B.

spk_1:   9:49
She she is. Ah, I set the gold standard for survival. Just not many people get that entangled with, uh, them.

spk_0:   10:01
Yeah, I'm starting to get a little cautious about saying the name out loud

spk_1:   10:06
too many times. And one of them appears like Beetlejuice,

spk_0:   10:10
Beetlejuice or Bloody Mary.

spk_1:   10:13
I heard she passed with that man. That's that's too bad. But good for her. She made it this long? I don't know. Maybe I don't know if she did she write a book?

spk_0:   10:27
Oh, I'm I'm sure she did. I didn't do any research on it going. There's a point where I definitely lost interest.

spk_1:   10:32
I don't know if maybe she had good funds, that she had a really good security team. I

spk_0:   10:40
I think I think it was a really good plan. A really good plan that she was, uh, she didn't keep too much of a secret. You kept some of the details secret, but the existence of the existence of the evidence you know that maybe she turned over what was needed and kept, I don't know, the quote unquote good stuff for herself, just in case. All

spk_1:   11:06
I'm so I can say is I hope to survive this quarantine the way that when the trip survived the impeachment process and after,

spk_0:   11:17
you know, if there's a benchmark out there, I I will. I will tip my hat if I was still wearing it, too. Toe toe that

spk_1:   11:26
she is. She is a special forces version of of a person willing to testify. She you know about surviving in in bad odds.

spk_0:   11:40
Sorry, I I've been having just I've been distracted here because I I've been thinking about. I was like, I was thinking about getting going studio restroom, looking in the mirror, saying, You know, Hillary Clinton three times and seeing whether or not, you know, suicide myself, Well, I hope not.

spk_1:   11:55
But, you know, that's just hope. I don't know. She didn't learn. She's that doesn't get around the way she used to be. She may have other other people do it at the same time.

spk_0:   12:03
Yeah, well, I would just like to take this moment to just be perfectly clear that I have no dirt on the Clinton family, so well have opinions. That's it.

spk_1:   12:16
I have no actual dirt. I know a few people that know them down in Arkansas from down in Arkansas.

spk_0:   12:23
I'm burning folks. I've heard from folks in Arkansas, and I've talked cabbies in D. C during the Clinton presidency. But but But I know nothing is empirical fact

spk_1:   12:33
with ones I know are at our attorneys. That new bill in Little Rock back when he was governor. And new ing will still know him now. Right? And they're all very, very nice about him and all that. Him. Him. Well, yeah, yeah, they I don't think I've ever spoke to them about her. Um, all very nice about it. Still friends with him. And, uh um, that's probably why they don't worry.

spk_0:   13:03
Yeah, because they're on the good side of the fence there. One of them

spk_1:   13:06
I did meet one time he was talking, he told was telling me a story about trying to put his daughter to bed. Bill Clinton, Kolding and his daughter got angry because, uh, dad wouldn't hurry up. Read her a bedtime story was on the phone with the president, And, uh, I said, I have one question for you, and he had this drawer look, a dread washed across his face. And I said, When you get a call from the president, is it like on the movies? When they go, please hold for the president, and then you wait And he said, Only if it's a business call least it was a personal call where he's picking up a phone call. You know, he's right there. Hey, how you doing? And, Ah,

spk_0:   13:52
a little saxophone music in the

spk_1:   13:53
matter. So I just thought it was great because I did it. I just got one question for him for you. And he just got this dread this this Look over there. Uh, man, Yeah, I went and then suitors. I asked the question. He just relief went over him. E

spk_0:   14:10
do have to say that that's a different world, because I, too, have people in my social circle that whenever anybody asked me questions about them, I have a pause of concern in a sense of dread that has wash over me, but for completely different reasons.

spk_1:   14:24
Well, first of all, I don't consider myself the kind of person. That would just go. So you're friends of this person, huh? Your guy? I don't know what's good. Let's get some. Give me some dirt on me. I'm not that kind of I wouldn't expect that of a friend. Yeah, um, but this guy didn't know that m r I had, you know, we had met 10 minutes earlier. Okay, You know something that so he didn't know that he and there's a lot of people that since it's a president, it's open season, right? You know, so many ways. A very nice man. His office is way up on top building in Little Rock. You could look over where they put that submarine in the river,

spk_0:   15:02
put a submarine in the river in Little Rock. Yeah, I

spk_1:   15:04
was the USS Arkansas. Or use this little rock, Little rock. Oh, okay. They brought it in and sits in the river, and you go in. It's a museum.

spk_0:   15:12
Okay, Okay. That makes more sense.

spk_1:   15:15
Yeah. So you go in there, look around

spk_0:   15:19
outside of nature walks and stuff like that. I try and it's been too much time down in Arkansas. Nothing. Nothing against it. Nothing like Arkansas. No, a beautiful, beautiful down there.

spk_1:   15:32
Um, So, anyways, I just, uh that was where we're going to die. I don't wanna get into politics, but I just thought I thought since that was in the topic today Arkansas celebrity in western Kansas, it depends what you're looking for. There's more pheasants in western Kansas.

spk_0:   15:47
Well, pretty much anything you're looking for in Western Kansas, you're going to see it from the miles away.

spk_1:   15:52
That's a good thing, though, when the tanks are rolling in. Oh, yeah. There's no way

spk_0:   16:00
I would see those trains of National Guard vehicles and stuff coming in that that everybody's getting getting their knickers in a twist over.

spk_1:   16:06
Yeah. Yeah. Here you go. You just look and see where we

spk_0:   16:10
can see him coming from miles. We

spk_1:   16:12
got 30 minutes before they'll be here. Here we go.

spk_0:   16:16
I like the deep woods. I'm a deep woods on the creek kind of guy. You plains. People kind of weird me out.

spk_1:   16:25
How we have trees we have would eat areas.

spk_0:   16:28
They're called windbreaks. So it's fun. It's where the fence rows. Arkin, Uh,

spk_1:   16:35
also where the deer taste. Good deer around here. Nasty.

spk_0:   16:38
Well, when you got five billion acres of soybeans and corn and some flowers out there.

spk_1:   16:43
It's like being raised like you're raising them. So yeah, all right. Today we're gonna talk about masks because that seems to be the topic. And I went to Wal Mart last night, and about half the people in Walmart were wearing masks. About half the employees, half the were and half the employees weren't. About half the customers were and half customers weren't. And Tony, one point pointed out that you know, a guy we were solved with a mask on kept pulling it down to scratch his nose and rub his eyes and put his mask back off. Ah, because gland transmission and, ah, I thought to myself People don't as usual, Don't know what they're doing. I mean, and right before you got here, I decided I was gonna look up on Google to see how hard it waas. Just look at the basic video. This is how to properly use. And in 95 mask right. It was so easy. I did not get how to properly use finished typing yet. And Google filled in. And in 95 mask it's hot search s so it just it was like, Yeah, I know exactly where you're going. I know what you're doing here. And it was a video. And because you've gotta not know, we know what not to do while you're wearing it. But you gotta know how to take it on howto how to put it on, how to take it off properly or you're going to contaminate it, or you're gonna pull the stuff off the front of it and contaminate your hands and everything else, and a lot of people aren't. And then now we're getting into the homemade masks.

spk_0:   18:23
Yeah. So, lady at Wal Mart the other day, Look, I should get ready to rob a train.

spk_1:   18:28
I saw one of oldies, and Tony didn't even notice it. And it's the kind of thing I probably should have elbowed her and pointed out, but she was using a very lacy purple cup from a brawl as her mask.

spk_0:   18:43
You know, not everything you see on Pinterest and on Facebook is actually a good idea.

spk_1:   18:49
Yeah, she did. I would look three times at her. You know, I'm going to get in trouble for looking at this woman's bra. even though it's on her face. But I wanted to see I couldn't tell she like and maybe taken the two cups and put them together. Or she used in a single. Did she destroy a good brawl right for this. And if it wasn't a good brawl, should you be using it as a mask?

spk_0:   19:11
Uh, yeah, well, and and the the filter properties of it. I mean, you know, you're looking at particulate size that that the comm pass through the material. You need something where you could have some confidence in what it's filtering ability is. And by the way, did you and Tony ever discuss using rock ups is no only best know you'd have to cut eye holes in it.

spk_1:   19:39
Yeah, baby. Yeah, I wouldn't work. Well, we'll be bumping into things and yeah, have people go. All right, You're just bragging. Now, just go on. Um, but well, you're right. Because I was reading yesterday. Said do not use polyester or, uh, similar materials because it's too porous. It's right. The gaps are too big.

spk_0:   20:06
The gaps are big and materials kind of slick. It it doesn't there. There's no frills to it. Like a natural fiber. Oh, our sponge fibers would have mattered. Fibers that would have, you know, the ability to cross over and create, you know? Ah, better filtering system.

spk_1:   20:22
Which I'll admit. I went out the other day. I had a smog, okay? And I had it so I could use it if I needed to. It was not the right material. I know it wasn't the right material, but I wasn't wearing it for me.

spk_0:   20:37
Oh, it was so that people go. Oh, look, it's It's a mask. I can't see nose and live, so that that counts

spk_1:   20:44
well, and watching other people use their mask and watch them use them incorrectly. I know they're not doing any good, right? So I basically wore mine for the same reason I conceal carry just to calm everybody around me down? Yeah, you know, im U S O. Uh, yeah, I just I was like, Fine. We're all gonna do this. I'll do it too. I've already got three of these almost through one of them

spk_0:   21:13
own. Hey, I gotta I gotta say, just just I'll be honest. I've been driving around with an n 95 mask on the dash in my truck since before it was cool.

spk_1:   21:25
Why had I not Long dash, But I've had one in my car because I've got one that I carry in my pouch on my back back when I go hiking, Right? And, uh, I've had one on there since the time I went hiking, and somebody decided to burn a ah tree line down beside the trail and I got caught up in that, and I had to use a T shirt. Uh, so I've had one in there since then. I've also got one. I don't know if it came in battle box, but it's a emergency temporary, one that you put on and you stick it to your face, it sticks around, and I've got one of those two. I carry both of them the ones for me. And I have the other one in case I have somebody with me that

spk_0:   22:06
it's one. I was just working in a dusty multi environment and had it in 95 Mass. Took it off it up on my dash and just kind of left it there.

spk_1:   22:14
I don't know if it'll work for you

spk_0:   22:15
that I'm a trendsetter. Well, with having facial hair. It is more difficult, but my rap doesn't know what would stick to. It would stick in certain areas. But But even though my my beard is short, it ah, you know that there's still allows for larger particles to come in. Which is why I like my full neoprene, is win with Ian 95 equivalent. Yeah, that's right. The three room that wraps around and all that as what? What? I like that because it's able to get a seal where my facial hair is not

spk_1:   22:44
which it's always made me wonder. You know, that's the thing about the special operators in Iraq and Afghanistan. They're all bearded and all that which tells me that chemical attacks or not, the high are not high on their concern list.

spk_0:   23:00
Well, and I can tell you from being there, even though we had to lug around that antiquated hunk off, uh, gas mask, uh, that they considered it to be an environment where we didn't necessarily have to worry about NBC type attacks over there. So, uh, we didn't keep up with our masks at all times, you know, they didn't travel with us everywhere. Like they originally thought they were going to think. Goodness, um because basically, the thing just equates to being about the worst pillow you ever had. And, uh, but, yeah, um, operators had Ah, they don't work with a beard unless you've got a tub full of vastly in handy.

spk_1:   23:45
Now, In the first Gulf War, it was a concern. Yes, because I remember a lot of stories about guys in their full NBC gear. The whole suit, Yes. Thing being out there and overheating and and all that was a huge concern.

spk_0:   24:02
Well, uh, Saddam himself, while while he was still empowered in the first Gulf War, was that that was especially during the height of his experimentation of chemical weapons. Be especially on the Kurds and many of his own people. So,

spk_1:   24:16
yeah, I remember it was a big deal then, but, uh, those times seemed to not be with us right now. Now, speaking of that real quick, uh, USS Comfort, Yes. Is is that one in New York, or is that one in L. A.

spk_0:   24:28
I believe the offset comforts one in New York.

spk_1:   24:30
Okay, um, a friend of mine on Facebook. Ex Navy guy. He's also one of the biggest Bernie supporters you've ever seen. So he's been having a bad week ending out sad. But, uh, he was put. He put a picture of the USS comfort on and says, Hey, I've seen that. I saw the ship over the Gulf War and all this, and I think I upset him. So, Brian, if you are listening, it was not I was not making light of anything except the fact that I said every time I see the name USS Comfort, I'm reminded of the headline where they said 33 nurses were pregnant when that ship got back from the Gulf War not make it fun anybody. I just that it's I just find it interesting how certain things will stick with you. Yeah, because the name USS Comfort. I remember thinking back then somebody was too comfortable, and I had to look it up to make sure I remembered it correctly. And I had remembered correctly 33 women were pregnant on that ship when it got back.

spk_0:   25:38
Yeah. Uh, yeah, I Let's not forget my original enlistment was in the United States Navy and I Yeah, that was

spk_1:   25:47
one thing they left out of the story, though, that I want to know when they probably never will release this. We know when that ship got back here, we had 33 mothers to be good. They have never said how many fathers to be. There were

spk_0:   26:07
17.5 years and and two different branches of the military. And, uh and I could take that number is gonna be a lot harder to

spk_1:   26:16
track. Well, and I always say that because, you know, I really hope it's an equivalent close to equivalent number,

spk_0:   26:25
I think getting in an exact number, but

spk_1:   26:28
I hope it's close to equivalent. I hope we don't have 30. We didn't have 33 mom to bees and 10 fathers to be

spk_0:   26:36
No, no, no, I I think I think we're looking at I think it's more of the 33 mothers to be and and 33 suspected father's out of a group of 100 150. That's totally

spk_1:   26:53
off topic. But that's Brian. If you're listening, I was not making I was not making light of the ship itself. I think it's great what it's doing. It's just that's one of those things that stick with you once you read it. Once it puts itself in the synapses and it just lends itself to come back.

spk_0:   27:12
I had a friend. I went to basic training. With who? When I ran into him in Yokosuka, Japan. We were talking about the ships that we were assigned to. And, you know, I'm assigned to a Spruance class destroyer, and it was pretty proud of that fact. And this guy was It was goofy individual. And But I have to say I had a little bit of jealousy for his assignment because ah, young man was assigned to the USS Holland. A medical supply. Forget, um, ship's complement of roughly 350 people. And he was one of six males.

spk_1:   27:50
Oh, 350 people. I should have joined the Navy just only for the experience. I didn't have 300 people in the town I grew up in. So the fact you're still Yeah. Yeah, that's Esther. Anyway, back to the masks thing.

spk_0:   28:08
People were outnumbered by pheasants by Like what? 10 12 1

spk_1:   28:10
Oh, gosh. Hope on Goodyear on a good year, Um, the, uh on the massing. We've got a company here in town that is, uh, owned by a friend of ours. And, ah, it is three D printing. They've been looking at three D printing masks and they've got a mask. Now that they can three d print out of a fairly soft media that they stick a, uh, filter on the end of it. You know it when you showing it to me. I said, Well, what reminds me of is a

spk_0:   28:45
like the ones on the airplanes.

spk_1:   28:46
Yeah, only this one has, like, a nose notch where the ones on the plains are usually ran with one of the planes. Remind me of the toys. I don't know if they make him any more. Uh, when we were kids, you had they were basically cups with two plastic ropes and you could stand on him and walk around. Yeah, the stomper things. That's what that's what the ones on the Plains remind me of. Um, he says, Well, yeah, it's pretty close when we got you know, it's a little bit softer toe mold. And then, uh, another friend of mine who I knew from high school. She is out in Knoxville, Tennessee. She and her family had just bought a three d printer. She says, What can we make to help out? We don't want to make a bunch of trash that we were gonna take the hospital. They're gonna have to get rid off, right? And, ah, there are something to Scott about that he's well, you're getting into media types. You're getting in tow. What do you make it out of what you print it out of? One of the problems they've ran into with the three D printed masks is due to the size of each layer of printing. You get multiple layers, you get nooks and crannies and ledges and things like that that make it nearly impossible. Or, according to some completely impossible to sterilize,

spk_0:   30:16
right, as opposed to like a, you know, an injection molded thermoplastic resin.

spk_1:   30:20
But since they're doing it in layers and if you've ever been to a hobby convention or something like that, you've you've you've seen little things they print out. You can tell what it is until you see the layers right, and because of that, it makes it very, very in some. And some of the media can't take the heat of sterilization,

spk_0:   30:39
right because it'll know. Yeah, it'll go into an autoclave immediately. No deformed.

spk_1:   30:44
So if you're looking into making your own master a lot, uh, and you have a three D printer. There are a lot of crowdsourced options available right now.

spk_0:   30:56
Someone knows, Ah, 10 or 12 year old boy was making just, ah, retainers that go on the back of your heads to keep the elastic from pulling on your ears. Those that's a

spk_1:   31:06
common one. That's that's common. Um, Now, Scott and the company here have started making the thing. I don't know if they did it first. Don't know if this other company did it first, um, they've they've kind of went away from the masks and they're making, and they're donating them to We've got the U M. K C medical school here. We've got some hospitals. They're donating them to them. There are a headband for face shields, Okay. And, um, they're made out of a single layer print. You have to do so, uh, the brain of a single print, which makes them so they can sterilize them because of the single

spk_0:   31:52
right. That said that you don't have all the

spk_1:   31:54
ridges you don't have all the nooks and crannies and ruffles. Right? So, uh, they're making those. I asked him. I said, where are you getting? What are you doing for the shields? The clear pieces. And he, uh, told me that they're using and they're getting these donated to him by schools and things like this. The old

spk_0:   32:17
transparency Springer search for the overheads.

spk_1:   32:19
Yeah, because they don't use them anymore, right? But they've still got him in stock. They've still got him. So they're using transparency sheets. They're attaching the transparency sheets to the headband. Because what you're wanting to you want to stop the particulates, right? It doesn't matter if it's mask. Doesn't matter if it's just a shield, as long as that it's stopped from impacting with you and your mucous membranes in your mouth and everything else it works. So you know what that allows you to do? And I don't know if we're going to see people walking around with his face shields on or not. But what the facial leisure to do is allows you to use one mask for a longer period of time. Because the shield is stopping

spk_0:   33:03
is the bigger stuff, right? Right.

spk_1:   33:06
So, uh, if you got a three d printer, we've been talking for years about having three D printers help Preppers.

spk_0:   33:13
Wait. And And this is that, you know, that this test run of communism is definitely the opportunity to be ableto kind of way that

spk_1:   33:20
out. So that's that's one of them. Um, then of course I did see interesting. When the other day that, uh, being that I'm me, I'm old. I'm white and all that. I had never thought of a CZ. I was reading some interviews with Cem, uh, gentleman of color from bigger cities that were saying they were going without masks for entirely different reasons. They said, Do you know how nervous people get when black men show up wearing bandannas around their faces? I thought I'd never

spk_0:   34:00
thought of that. Thank you, Hollywood.

spk_1:   34:02
Yeah. So, uh, I was like, I hadn't thought about it. I totally makes sense now. They think of it. So

spk_0:   34:08
So And that's an awkward position Thio to be in, You know, it's which is which is more dangerous,

spk_1:   34:17
you know? Yeah. Are you willing to risk cove it or getting shot?

spk_0:   34:20
Right, Right. I mean, area. I mean, are your intentions going to be misinterpreted and end up with in a worst case scenario.

spk_1:   34:27
So I once against one of the things I had never thought of, I was

spk_0:   34:31
like, Oh, you know it not. Not something that was presented to us in the in the types of towns that we live in and and and our personal experiences

spk_1:   34:42
I could throw on a smog and walk around, The worse it's gonna happen. Mia's I'm be assumed to be a gun that assumed I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm just saying that that's going to be the worst that happens to me.

spk_0:   34:57
You see, that's the difference. You still you still aren't me? I was a former gun nut until that tragic boating accident.

spk_1:   35:03
Whoa. Okay, well, I still like him from afar.

spk_0:   35:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still I still dream about him, and I don't Oh, you know, get some guns and ammo magazine open the centerfold flashlight under the covers.

spk_1:   35:18
Yeah, I, uh I could I definitely could see that. So I've been looking into, uh, reading up on it, and there's so much information on everything right now. And it's just about of the CDC CDC says everybody wear masks. Okay? Don't they start asking Don't wear a mask because that's going to give you a false sense of security. The CDC

spk_0:   35:41
is playing hokey pokey with what they're with the busywork that they're going out

spk_1:   35:46
and, well, what they said the first time actually made sense to me. I mean, a Facebook post about it because they said if you wear a mask, you've a false sense of security because your eyes are still exposed. So that's when I took the picture. Me with the in 95 mask the smog and the goggles. Yeah, and, uh, it was one of my favorite pictures because I looked like a character out of book, Eli. Love it. It was like, If you can't dress like Book of Eli than the whole thing's wasted Oh, yeah, that's the

spk_0:   36:21
Yeah, because, well, it's, um you know, I have no negative judgements about people of different sexual orientations, but but just to accurately use the term, I do prefer the post apocalyptic attire of the Book of Eli as opposed to like the Mad Max and stuff, because it's a little less homoerotic.

spk_1:   36:41
Yeah, I don't wanna I don't. I would lot rather where the smog, the headgear, the goggles, the couple layers that I would the leather banana hammock. Yeah,

spk_0:   36:50
Yeah. I mean, I mean, a 44 years old. I'm still, you know, I still look good in the buff, but, you know, I'm not gonna You know where an entire collection of leather belts is an outfit?

spk_1:   37:02
Whether you look good or not, leather don't breathe. That's

spk_0:   37:06
all that gets sticky warm here. Yesterday, I was sticking in boots as it wasn't. So

spk_1:   37:14
yeah, whatever you're predilections are yours. But my case, I I prefer my garments to let air pass back and forth. I'm not saying

spk_0:   37:24
there's not a time and a place for this type of its higher. I mean, there's there's entire conventions and, you know, behind closed doors cover band and that There you go, you know, means there is. There is definitely a time and a place for them. But, you know, I have to say that, you know, if the post covert world, you know, needs some sort of post apocalyptic attire, I'm definitely gonna go with the trench coat. The 12 gauge

spk_1:   37:46
now the upside to the leather with a lot of studs and things on it is it is in this area. Is it really enforces that six foot rule It does. It really keeps You can wear something like that. People are going to

spk_0:   38:01
intense eye contact and giggling works better for me than step back, you know, But

spk_1:   38:06
if you're covered in the leather and the studs and maybe a few chains things like that in this area, that will grant you an additional couple

spk_0:   38:13
fam Yeah, well, in the and that works from from, you know, that's Omni directional deterrent. I said that the intense eye contact and giggling for no reason, you know, is something that you know, it takes a second. It's a one on one thing that, because very uncomfortable for people. I mean, me never tires entertaining me, but

spk_1:   38:35
I, uh, herds them. I say said, Well, preppers or levees preppers just laughing a little way that 11 if they wanted to get worse

spk_0:   38:43
No, no, no, no. That that to me that that's, uh, that's left us late night comedians. And

spk_1:   38:49
I said, No, I don't think I don't believe No, no, I said Now I'm am I kind of enjoying it a little. There's times I don't

spk_0:   39:00
enjoy the fact that I haven't had to change my shopping habits. Well, when

spk_1:   39:03
I, you know, when all this mask stuff came about, I've got a couple of toolboxes. I've converted into medical boxes. When I opened one of those up and I had a bundle of unopened surgical masks pulled those out, they were they were folded, you know, the kind of represented in morio. Uh, they kind of looked like a a wad, like, you keep bills. You folded up in your pocket. That kind of had that look, guys looking at it going, you know, not only does it look like that, but it's probably worth more than the lot of money

spk_0:   39:44
I want watching people freak out about this. And I was just so glad that I finally broke down and bought my about myself. The nice neoprene filter masks were talking about before about myself. The ones I wanted, you know, the one that has the p 51 Mustang shark and you are working on it and got one with a nice big is very spangly on it. But the surgical masks Yeah, I keep three of them rolled up and sealed in a vacuum bag in my satchel that I carry with me everywhere I go, just in case. You know that. And some surgical surgical gloves. I don't keep those. My satchel What, do you keep them in my truck? I keep those on hand anyway, just in case they come upon an accident or anything else.

spk_1:   40:26
Which, by the way, if you have, if nothing else convinces you after all this to stock up on some of these things. I saw a lake yesterday. Somebody said, Hey, look, uh, sterile gloves or back in an Amazon before this went down, you could buy this, like, 300 pack of gloves for $89. Uh, yeah, yeah. Right now, to order them today is $38. Billy Graham. So if this doesn't convince you to put some of this stuff away, not now, for crying out loud. Don't be. Oh, no,

spk_0:   41:07
no, no, no, not not right now. Don't make gal inched,

spk_1:   41:10
but like you're I don't want your money. Bring mask, grand. But mine, I think, was eight bucks with a couple extra filters.

spk_0:   41:17
My cheaper ones were, uh about eight or nine bugs bought a couple of those. But then whenever I I finally did find the brand that that I wanted with the look and feel and infiltration that I wanted, I bought extra filters and stuff for it. Got the whole thing, like 20. But

spk_1:   41:34
mine doesn't have the artwork. I didn't get the art

spk_0:   41:36
night, but I got extra filled eyes and I just thought this one was just darn cool. And I really wanted it.

spk_1:   41:41
Um, my only regret is that I only ordered one of them.

spk_0:   41:46
Yeah, I only ordered one of the cool ones

spk_1:   41:48
looking back. Now, if I don't get the neoprene ones again, I would have ordered enough for everybody in the family, but

spk_0:   41:55
I got mine. Dust control, the Shaw

spk_1:   41:57
blood. Well, CS. I never imagined this scenario. I failed to imagine this nerd. I bought my mask for the walk home. Yeah, that And that's why it's it was in my backpack, and that's why it was all this in my carry on in my car. I never imagined I would need one to go to Wal Mart. But like we said last week, I also never imagined the hardest thing I would be working at is not getting fat,

spk_0:   42:31
right? Right way have this this concept, even those of us that have have had different experiences in austere situations. We never imagine that that your primary concern would be not getting fat,

spk_1:   42:49
getting bored and shoving or, you know, large quantities of food in my mouth.

spk_0:   42:54
Yeah, Yeah, I did. I didn't I didn't figure that the apocalypse would start with me getting caught up on projects at home. Well, my back day looks great,

spk_1:   43:05
but I mean, that's one thing I I really I said in the past, I really thought instead of worrying about masks and fill in and things like that for everybody to go to the store, that if something happened that closed most of the country down, my priorities would be How do I make sure that the food I have on hand last as long as possible? Right. How do I make sure that my generator stays running? Huh? Et cetera, et cetera. Which none of that is currently an issue. No. So in a way, this has been a real learning event, because was it old saying, If you I want to hear God laugh. Tell him your plans. Yeah, uh, because this is nothing like what I think most of you never have. I picked up a book by Chris Warning bringing land already, and it said, you know, you're the hero. Sits at home watching streaming TV, eating a plate of nachos. His truck has never been cleaner. You know, I just never just none of us. I think when we think world stopping event have we thought I'm gonna sit home, watch a lot of TV clean. I mean, what, you don't know your truck. I spent the other day cleaning the little window on my honor oven. I was like, I brand out of thing. I was like, Fine, we'll put that down. And, uh, yeah, it was like, over time, I could tell I couldn't see in the oven quite as good as I could in the past. And it wasn't It wasn't,

spk_0:   44:48
uh, but with the indoor. But with the end of the world, here is we know it. You need to be able to see what's baking.

spk_1:   44:53
Yeah. So I, uh you know, I just I think that's what I'll do. I mean, you know, you're bored when you just go. I hit that oven. I'm gonna just do that. That's Ah, you know, it's, you know, there's not chunks of food against it. It's not like a roast exploded in the oven is just over. Time accumulates and, you know, I got in there. You worked on it for a while and, uh, got the downstairs bathroom fixed and putting that off. Yeah, got it fixed. It's back up and running. Um, this is not the not the scenario I imagined. No. So, um, I guess why a lot of people are out there without the masks and without the things that we thought we'd need because we're all sitting here going. It's not supposed to be like this. Yeah, um, you were prepared for what? We're We're prepared for this one. And I would say to that's part of another thing. That along with the Massell that is being mentally prepared for the downtime, like so I think a lot of people share with me in the fact of Okay, you know, things were shutting down things within this. I'm going to have to work harder. I'm have to go out and do Maur. I'm gonna have to fill my day. You know, like a farmer from sunup to sundown taking advantage of all that time to make sure that the families fed the power's on the, uh, food could be cooked. The water's clean. Yeah, and Ah,

spk_0:   46:29
well, I say, uh, with my deployment to Iraq Ah, one of the oddest things we encountered there was the downtime being granted. A lot of that leadership was having to do meetings and blood, Mom, you know? Well, you know, we're kind of mushrooms in a way. And but, yeah, the downtime was proud of the most maddening part.

spk_1:   46:56
Well, I I know I don't know about anyone else. Maybe it's just me, But you take a day and you force me for some reason. Yeah, to not do much. I will beam or exhausted at the end of that day. Then I will be if I go out and actually do something old a low.

spk_0:   47:16
Yeah, well, I'll be mentally exhausted from it, because my mind my mind to be racing around about all the crap I should be doing.

spk_1:   47:24
Well, I mean, I've sat in your car and I've watched TV. This this this and and been like. Okay, how about this? How about this? No, no, no. Then I end up going Well, there went most the day. Why do I feel awful? Why is my back hurt? Why is my you know all this, and it's just because I did nothing now, like yesterday. L When I went about five o'clock, we went in to one of the trails and we rode bikes for about 4.5 miles. Yet, and, uh, it's a good thing I'm not a worrier about this because there's a lot of people not maintaining six foot distance on that area. Uh, but there's there's a lot of people out there that were like they were all nice. Everybody get along. You could tell. The consensus was I cannot take this house a moment longer and the weather is beautiful and because it was packed, it was, um, I let me put it this way. Aside from Christmas time, it's been years since I've seen the mall as busy as that trail wash. It was busy, it was really busy, which is good. You know, it's it's and we had it. We we did that. We have now. L found out that, you know, she may run track and all that, but heat squat compared to me on the bicycle. So

spk_0:   48:49
I was gonna ask him whether not since actually dipped into her energy reserves.

spk_1:   48:55
Use some muscle she's not used to using. And, uh, Dad didn't I didn't Even I didn't get a chance to get winded. I was so busy waiting on her is like that, which I did upset. Or one time she caught up with me. And I said, How do you do that? She was. How'd I do what I said, How do you actually ride your bike backwards? I ain't go backwards. I guess it just looked like that when I was leaving you behind.

spk_0:   49:17
I said so. So she did not appreciate Dad sense of humor at that point.

spk_1:   49:24
So But it was a nice day. We got out. We did that once again. At no point in my plans did I say the world's gonna shut down. So all I'm gonna have to do is write a bike and not even to get home just to go, You

spk_0:   49:40
know, in in many of our older episodes, Uh, as we talked about, you know, entertainment preparations we talked about, you know, having you know, movies on DVD. You know, if you're gonna have backup power supply, make sure you have plenty of board games and and stuff because you know, you're not gonna have Internet. You're not gonna have consistent power. And here we are with our seems like our Internet qualities just improving. For the most part, you know that cos we're definitely ramping things because they understand that there's a greater consumption and, uh, no power grid still functioning currently Internets good. And everybody is just staring staring at the screen until they go bunkers.

spk_1:   50:32
In that thought in a prep communications, a lot of people have started taking advantage of a service that I've used for years, that work zeal that Zoom Zoom has made. I'd write a letter to my clients yesterday because Zoom has made the news for having some issues. I just want to stay down here where I have a wider area in a wire audience, too. I want to make this clear as usual. The story you're hearing from the media is close, but skewed. There have been some instances with zoom of uninvited people taking part in classrooms. One in particular was an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting and doing some very, very, uh, rude, racist, uncouth behavior

spk_0:   51:42
that's just his tasteful

spk_1:   51:43
because they could write, All right, it's very similar. You might imagine it if you know you have a school when somebody sticks their head in, says something very, very off color than runs off, right? This has happened. The reports about that are true, however, what's being left out of the reports, and it pains me to have to mention this because I would think this would go without saying, If you are taking part for work school, we're just to talk to your family in a zoom conference the best way you could prepare yourself to do this and not have unwanted guests. Do not post your resume link on social media. What the instances of this happening are always because somebody has posted there Zoom Link and said, Hey, here's how we're getting together on social media and then they don't password protect their meeting. Okay, so anybody could just pop in. All you need's a zoom link and you pop in

spk_0:   52:57
okay, you're you're you're you're the tech. I I'm I'm on the hardware side of things, and I've never done anything on Zoom. But the part we preface is with this should go without saying you're

spk_1:   53:14
right. Even I e even. I am no technophobe, but even I not exactly the

spk_0:   53:20
most technologically savvy person around, would know You don't put okay. You don't put your secret meeting location on the bulletin board, okay?

spk_1:   53:31
You really do away with, you know, anonymous part of Alcoholics Anonymous when you publicly post

spk_0:   53:36
eat. Yeah. Yeah, Well, suppose you that's Ah, er all that.

spk_1:   53:41
But all these situations have been where a teacher or somebody has posted on social media. Here's where we're going to meet and then they don't password protect it. And then he didn't do anything else. And so anybody could just walk. And because Zoom one of the reasons Zoom is so popular, it's first of all, it works very well compared to Cisco, WebEx, Skype, etcetera earlier. The other reason is it's easy. You get a link, you click on it down to the software opens up, and it works. No. Nice. The downside is the ease makes very easy to take advantage of If you do something stupid like, let everybody know what? Your zoom meeting ideas. Okay. And those air jet. And there's two different zoo meeting ideas. There's your personal one. And then there's one that you can generate new every time. Okay, so don't ever use your personal, because once your person ones out there, people can hit you with it like that. So just use the generated one. But I don't know how many people after doing it, but I don't want to. I don't want this news to discourage people from usual using this.

spk_0:   54:46
Okay, so I haven't looked it up, but off the top of your head and zooms defense. Is there a sort of a how to guide line? Sort of sort of a quick start guide that that that they have

spk_1:   55:00
there is. But even more than that, zoom as of yesterday, it now has passwords by default. Okay, that's good. And they're all there working on what are called waiting rooms. Where when you call in, you go to a waiting room where you can't do anything until

spk_0:   55:17
you can be vetted.

spk_1:   55:18
Yeah, the meet the person running the meeting can let you in. Ah, so it's slowing down. It's making more clicks, which, unfortunately with a certain amount of users, is going to make it less popular because they want it to be like a phone call. They won't I click the link, it's up. We're connected. We're done until we're done. We're on until we're done.

spk_0:   55:39
That's Facebook Messenger video call,

spk_1:   55:40
right? And, ah, you know, but yeah. So anyways, I wanted to just touch on that real quick before we wrap up. Because I know there's a lot of people out there taking man resume because you can put your whole family. I mean, you can connect you on a free account in connect multiple people. Oh, everybody can take part and you can share things. So if you got a picture you wanna share with everybody and share it, you can file transfer. You can do all that stuff built into it. Well, if I

spk_0:   56:06
like that many people are that many people like me that bit, that definitely be a resource, wouldn't it?

spk_1:   56:10
There's some. There are some non dysfunctional families that we're using it quite a bit out there, not mine. No. Uh, They're my family Does not even have a group. Messenger.

spk_0:   56:20
I Sorry. I'm still just revel on my mind. So China rep around the possibility of that statement of non dysfunctional family. Well, uh, I love I love my family. I do. I love my family.

spk_1:   56:36
John Black family. John Phillips, who ran for ah, vice president on the Libertarian ticket until a short time ago when he and his running mate dropped out is a friend of mine. He posted that in Chicago. A big part of the cove in 19 Spread has been tracked back to two family birthday parties. Okay, And so I followed up. My comment was See, when you have a dysfunctional family, you don't get together. The

spk_0:   57:08
then I guess my family has more functionality than they gave it. Credit for way. Try to manage a family Sunday dinners for those that live in the local area.

spk_1:   57:17
Yeah, I've said it before on here

spk_0:   57:19
might work keeping a blow tents and due to the regulations. And my, uh, my, uh uh,

spk_1:   57:27
oldest son asked me one time while we don't have ah huh. Famer unions like you see, people walk around the family reunion shirt, Smith Family union 2020. Things like that. And I said, Well, those T shirts explain why? Said our family can't get together long enough to design the shirt. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean? It's supposed to be a picture of my son on there. No mind. Um, you know. Well, don't forget about my husband. No, forget it. We're just gonna go on without Yeah, And on that for those of you who aren't, uh, friends with me on Facebook, I'm gonna point out real quick that one thing I have you could tell The longer this goes on, the more things start to bother me. And I'm tired of the of the title Essential employees. Uh, and I'm a firm believer. Feel free to respond to me at Jeff J to cast dot com. We're on Facebook if you want to. If you disagree with this, if you are not hospital e m t cop for fireman, you're not an essential employees. You're just nice to have around. And

spk_0:   58:47
in principle, I definitely agree with you on that in practice. Sure, there might be a greater area that other people would just love to know on that bone for a while, but I won thing. I My big gripe Big brother doesn't have the right to tell me what is and is an essential position or an essential item. The city of Springfield, Missouri, has definitely the the city planner has definitely made it on my list after dictating, you know that Oh, sporting goods is not an essential items. All retail stores in the Springfield City limits will not be able to sell sporting good items. So when your kid when you've got a bunch of kids staying home from school that are going bonkers, the soccer ball goes flat, you go to Wal Mart to pick up another soccer ball. You're not allowed to purchase it because they don't consider it to be essential. And

spk_1:   59:40
I hadn't heard about that. Yeah, course, that would mean I couldn't went and got my weight

spk_0:   59:45
set right. You could not have gone and done that. And therefore, your biggest fear of R r trial run of communism here would you wouldn't have your little we venture, you know, blow up doll equivalent. Whatever is

spk_1:   1:0:00
that would have, really and that would have mentally caused me, but still I'm considered, if you and now this person. I've said this outside of two other people. Technically, according to the rules, I'm considered an essential employees.

spk_0:   1:0:16
According to the guidelines of the City of Joplin, I already double checked under three different clauses, and there you are, considered to be an essential employees.

spk_1:   1:0:24
Here's the thing is, I don't consider myself an essential employees. I will never be online announcing I am essential employees for one simple reason. Huh? If I decide tomorrow it's too scary, I'm staying home.

spk_0:   1:0:41
Then that's not actually central.

spk_1:   1:0:42
No one's going to die, right? No one's gonna die. No one's gonna get hurt. No one's going to suffer because I stay home.

spk_0:   1:0:51
But Leo's fire E. M s so very different story

spk_1:   1:0:55
if you're if you're the one, you know, if you're sitting there and you're saying I'm essential because somebody's gotta hand this sack of food through the drive through window or I'm essential because somebody's got to take this package from the UPS guy when he brings it in, or any of those things you're fooling yourself

spk_0:   1:1:19
or you've got a box returns up and get them sent back to the manufacturer

spk_1:   1:1:23
Uh, anyone who has to tell you they're essential probably aren't essential. I have not met a cop or a nurse or a doctor lately who has to tell me they're essential,

spk_0:   1:1:36
right? But this, but also under two different aspects of the job of city ordinance, me and my business have been deemed especially non essential. Well,

spk_1:   1:1:50
and I do I disagree with that because you could limit your capacity. We've we've played games at your business with less than 10 people. Yes, and I would actually say the same thing about that as I do my weight thing. Being able to get out and do something that's not sit at home right is very beneficial. And I think in times like this and and plus whatever happened to the liberty of me deciding what I'm going to expose myself to

spk_0:   1:2:26
you. Oh, you mean that whole pursuit of happiness?

spk_1:   1:2:29
So, um, that's you know, I don't I just disagree that. Plus, I disagree with labeling some people essential and some people non essential. You're getting really into class division there. You're getting into areas

spk_0:   1:2:47
more months. We're breaking this down into district's yachts, ever in your favor. So I,

spk_1:   1:2:52
uh I think that that's another thing I don't like the whole essential, if you're to say essential, make it mean essential. Yes. Essential is not the guy working at the convenience store. I can get gas without going in the convenience store, right? I can't get a soda, but so is not essential. No water is essential. And I got that at home right now. My water still working? Yeah. So, uh, you know, now there I would if you really stretched it. Those you want to write me. There are some things I'd put in there I would put plumbers. Oh, yeah, are probably essential. Anybody that has to come in and save you from your own refuse it's broken. I wouldn't say Garbage men. Oh, yes. Are getting are on the essential

spk_0:   1:3:52
proper sand. It's a upper proper Santa

spk_1:   1:3:55
and sanitation to say not today. But I mean, look at the town when the trash quits running when trash goes on strike. Look at what happened to cities. Always when that happens. So I would even go there. I will even stretch it to there. I'm not stretching it two. Well, I talked to him about this somewhere. I'm gonna I'm gonna mention it. A friend of mine who will go unnamed was telling me because we were discussing this. He says I have to go to work. He says, but I'm not essential because I'm gonna go because I want to keep getting a check. Right. But he says who ever thinks my job is essential? Is kidding themselves Eels. I'm there on a loophole. I work on toys. Oh, any idea what this guy does? You know him? Uh, he's a motorcycle mechanic.

spk_0:   1:4:58
Oh, yeah, OK, yeah.

spk_1:   1:5:01
He says I'm glad I'm working. Yeah, I don't think I'm essential, though. Yes, no one's gonna die because their bike doesn't

spk_0:   1:5:09
run. No, I yesterday would have been a good time to have my throttle cables change down. I got her. I got a call about my throttle cables.

spk_1:   1:5:18
So the rest of the place he works at is closed, but he's still there because he's technically a mechanic,

spk_0:   1:5:26
right? So that technically mechanic telling it technically essential. And I'm glad

spk_1:   1:5:32
for him, he's still getting a check and all that, right, They all that. But even he's like this getting weird, you know, because I made a comment to him that the list of non essential it would be easier to say. Here's what's not essential to read the list of non essential would be quicker than to read the list of essential

spk_0:   1:5:51
right? Yeah, I believe that that was on your Facebook post.

spk_1:   1:5:55
So I, uh it's just all those things I wanted to kind of get on my soap box on real quick because yeah, I don't uh, really, It's where those things. If you're going to say this is essential, then you gotta go. Well, what about this other

spk_0:   1:6:10
thing? Well, I I think that falls into the hole. If you look at any of the irrefutable aspects of what's going on now, if you look at the virus itself and how, what what we know of its of its behavior mortality rates, transmit ability, things like that. If you look at everything that's going on compartment Aly. If you actually look at it critically analytically it, it's it's not making sense. Wait, we've got a two plus two and we're equal in leg, one person says. 71 person says five, but but but nobody's agreeing on the four at least not people that get to make decisions and dictate who is and what is essentially what is not like. I

spk_1:   1:6:58
don't know about Colorado, but I know in, ah, California pot stores are considered essential

spk_0:   1:7:08
Well, especially medical. And, uh, uh, cigar lounges are considered essential. A cigar lounge. So wow,

spk_1:   1:7:18
Now the only thing I can think of to justify that would be nobody else. Most of scars around them so

spk_0:   1:7:25
well, it's gonna land is one of the few places where you can actually smoke a cigar. You're right to California.

spk_1:   1:7:29
That's what I've taken is that's why they say it's essential. My guess, though, is that it's who has the ear of the person making the decision.

spk_0:   1:7:37
I mean, I'm not disagreeing with the cigar lounge, you know, being considered being essential. I'm just surprised at the decision, but I I think that there is a solution in the who banks rather than what

spk_1:   1:7:51
If I can't go play laser tag, why can I go to the bank? Why should I be able to walk into the bank, get within six feet of a teller, sit down at the desk of a loan officer?

spk_0:   1:8:02
You can walk in your bank. I haven't done it a long time, but I my banks have all gone to window only.

spk_1:   1:8:11
All right, we'll see. But you don't need nearly as many employees to do that. My bank. Gosh, Ever since they put the new one on range line, the teller you talked to at the drive through is in Springfield. Oh, you know, I mean, it's that kind of thing.

spk_0:   1:8:28
My banks aren't that fancy, so Well,

spk_1:   1:8:32
I would like to say fancy. I think it's cheap, because that way, there, there, instead of one teller per location, they've got one teller per region or two tellers per region. Oh, because they do it by video. Um, so anyway, uh, but things like that, just like why? I don't understand why you know you can outside things, they keep closing parks down, you know, And it's been from what I've read and heard. The virus does not last long In ultraviolet light, sunlight kills the virus quickly.

spk_0:   1:9:03
You intense UV A radiation is extremely harmful to so

spk_1:   1:9:10
playgrounds as long as you're maintaining their distance or really one of the safer places to be. So towns like Coffeyville on others that were saying, Nobody in the parks at all, right? It's outside. It's, you know, it's exactly one of the better places. I don't understand why you're gonna keep people cooped up inside houses

spk_0:   1:9:31
well again. It's not making. It's not making sense. And and again, like the dictation of what is and is not an essential item within the city limit, Uh is, I don't know, it's it's falling under just the busywork, the wi I feel better about this because we are being pro active. It may not make sense, but we're doing something big to show that we're being proactive and one where in in the future retrospectively, if we take a look at this, I can declare that as city manager, City coordinator parks director, I did something proactive.

spk_1:   1:10:11
Now there are some businesses. I totally get it, Uh, any business where you are in another person's air in another person's circle. Jim's I get I'm taking massage. Uh, miss uses

spk_0:   1:10:29
all your hairdresser's, uh, very much so.

spk_1:   1:10:33
Chiropractors, uh, anything where you're physically I know my chiropractor and I get for me what is uncomfortably close. You know, when he started,

spk_0:   1:10:44
I Yeah, I'm thankful for clothing barriers. But

spk_1:   1:10:49
then again, I was raised Midwest Lutheran. You know, I saw a thing the other day. Worse is, they say, to stay six feet apart. Minnesota Scandinavians all say it seems awful close. So did

spk_0:   1:11:05
you read that in the same in the ST Olaf Tribune or No, I saw that on Facebook. Okay. Yeah. You know, says I don't know if State old got Facebook, can

spk_1:   1:11:15
you? Uh, they were talking about that scan, the Wisconsin or Missing and Scandinavians all safe. He was awful close. You don't gotta worry about this in Lake Woebegone. That's

spk_0:   1:11:26
what rail we have that where the introverts stare at their shoes and the experts characters. So we'll have to say something about you. Scandinavians is six feet is a different reference point for you than it is for someone of my stature. It's it is seems to be a smaller increment. Yes, Well, uh, the final had me six feet long. Way to fall for you. It's tripping

spk_1:   1:11:53
through. Yeah, So with that, we're gonna wrap up here. We when our time. Uh, thanks everyone for joining us once again. Jeff Jane to cast dot com. Jesse, Ajay to cast dot com or J to cast prepping on Facebook. We're gonna We're always there, So feel free to log in. We know people are listening. We've had over the last episode Had over 300 downloads already. Greatly appreciate that people are listening. So if you got any input, let us know. I know you got something. Somebody out there's got to have some.

spk_0:   1:12:27
We've got no shortage of opinions And we have confidence that that that our listeners have their own as well. So please share them with us.

spk_1:   1:12:34
Yeah, I don't, uh I really hope you're not listening. Disagree with everything I say because I don't worry me.

spk_0:   1:12:39
Uh, yeah, if you are listening. Well, I think it worried me more

spk_1:   1:12:45
if you are. Listen, this agree with everything I say then, uh, unlike Tree to talk to my wife. He could use the back if Theo um, we will, uh, be back. We're gonna try to do this weekly right now. This is the 2nd 1 in two weeks. Not sure what? Next week's gonna be around. We're still need. I still need Thio connect with Jason Took him on. I want to find out how this is affecting him. Thing with Jason is with him being the empty I don't know. I don't wanna interrupt. Get in the way of him doing what is an essential yes, actually essential. That ought to be the title of that, you know, is our interview with an essential with an actual essential employees.

spk_0:   1:13:27
That will be the name of what we're getting. We'll be

spk_1:   1:13:31
the name. Is he a postal clerk? No. Is the empty Oh, So he really matters,

spk_0:   1:13:38
okay? Yes, I have. I have reasons at home that I will not go into that. What? Why? This is ah subject. I'm quite emphatic about About what is an actual essential employees. Well, like I

spk_1:   1:13:52
said, the the one easy rule is if they announced themselves as such, you know they're not.

spk_0:   1:13:58
And I will, in my personal experiences that I referencing. I will back you on that 110%. And sometimes they're not the ones that are doing it. They have their own little cheerleader that does it for them all over social media. How

spk_1:   1:14:12
convenient. How convenient you out else? 01 last thing. What you do. I guess you got ideas for upcoming shows. You got something you want us to look into and, uh, comment on or or look at it and let us know we will definitely do that as long as it is not anything to do with the Tiger King. Although I am friends with one of the people in this show. Now you are friends with one of the people on the show. Oh, my goodness. He's a libertarian. And apparently we know people that know each other and got a

spk_0:   1:14:45
small, small world. Well, geographically, they're not that far away. So you and yeah, I, uh when it's been a while, living in Oklahoma City a couple of decades ago and, uh, I heard about it, but apparently things have gotten weirder since I left that area, and he, uh, that that is something. But I do have to say I've not again. I've not watched the show of intentionally not watched the show so that I can just hear what goes on without my own without my own biases. And but I will have to say that even after not watching the show, references to tigers and meth have incorporated themselves into my daily vernacular. Much more than I would care to admit. But darn it, it's funny.

spk_1:   1:15:32
Well, the one thing I love is the number of people that are now going Did you know you have a tiger for $2000? Oh, yeah,

spk_0:   1:15:39
that. But before even heard anything about the show I'm seeing means on Facebook about, you know, people wondering people, watching Tiger King wondering you know how that girl lost her arm or why she was working for $100 a week whenever and one dude sitting there going, you

spk_1:   1:15:54
know, I could have

spk_0:   1:15:54
a tire for, like, two grand, and but I actually I haven't even seen the show. Wouldn't it have been like until I come for two grand? Until they eat you? That's why you pay somebody $100 a week, tiger. So you you don't risk being eaten as much.

spk_1:   1:16:11
So you just made me realize they paid her to feed the Tigers and she fed the tigers her arm.

spk_0:   1:16:19
Apparently Kara Baskins fit Tiger husband. I mean oh, my gosh, that's anyways yeah, way again. My entire basis. Okay. You know what it is I'm talking about. You see, you've watched it. And But my entire basis is based off of, you know, hostile means on on social media. About it

spk_1:   1:16:44
with my holder is just the fact we're still making stupid people

spk_0:   1:16:49
famous. Well, way couldn't end with the Kardashians. Good way.

spk_1:   1:16:53
No, no, we're still We're still made. Stupid people, all sorts

spk_0:   1:16:57
of money, blues and all

spk_1:   1:16:58
sorts. People making leaps and bounds trying to fix the the Corona virus. We're making

spk_0:   1:17:06
way. We can't come together in advance ourselves as a society put our differences behind us. Put put, put all of our prejudices behind us and band together for you Ah, greater end goal and an acceleration of the species. And I mean, once you read the graffiti, that was that they've discovered on the walls of Pompeii and you find out that our maturity level has not increased in about 2000 years. At least you know we've technologically advanced, but you know, the we could culturally and morally and even technologically band together in advance to for a common gold. Nope, it's tigers and myth.

spk_1:   1:17:49
Uh, which works, by the way. I'm you know, that's that. That's one that has convinced me of. I've never, ever, ever tried meth. I don't plan

spk_0:   1:17:58
on it. I tell you what this is. This was greater than anything the dare program could have ever put together.

spk_1:   1:18:04
See, I'm the opposite. I'm like, Wow, it must be fantastic if it can make you tempt fate with tigers and turn gay.

spk_0:   1:18:12
Okay, I have tempted I have tempted fate. My mortality is men, and I have definitely taken that and into my hands, and And they put it on the line a great many times in my life. But that second part of your statement, their lines that I I just, um I have ah, I as I do that I can't I just can't deal with this equipment. The, uh uh, I have got several gay friends, and they referred to me as a you know, born and bred reader. And

spk_1:   1:18:48
you're what you're saying is you're not prepared in that way. Not physically. Not emotionally. No, no, not even for meth.

spk_0:   1:18:59
No, no sweat. Well knows. But pushing on that I mean, I mean tigers, you know? I mean, we know least you know, sit down the table and talk about it, but, you know, still probably not, And I just No, just eye. And besides that, I don't see why anybody would want to. I mean, I'm not not with me, because I mean I mean, I I don't think I'd be very good. I don't like it matters. By that point, I think, you know, there's a whole lot of other stuff or there'd be a lot of crying involved, and I don't know, I'm just in no way prepared to go there. Just not not my thing.

spk_1:   1:19:35
Yeah, I'm I'm I agree. My break. I just, uh I agree, but I just It saddens me that this is the most popular thing. Maybe it's because we're locked in our houses and we don't want. And it's not the Corona virus. Maybe that's part of what's viewing. This is it's entertainment of Look at these people. They're nuts. They're crazy, bonkers to no end. But there's not a thing about the virus

spk_0:   1:20:00
on it. True. Maybe that mean, boy, if you're wanted for fashion escape, I guess this I mean me. You know, I'm watching 20 year old sci fi shows, but you know, already else method tigers. Why, I'm Yeah, I agree. I'd rather do the 20 I gave some friends of mine the quarantine survival pack I put together. I told you about that. It's the complete series of firefly and movie serenity that they hadn't seen him. So I put him all white mall Now lie still. Lifes put him in a plastic bag labeled a quarantine survival kit. Included a pair of rubber gloves for them to handle him with, like don't breathe on him. And don't animal rare hands. Well, if you've got an extra copy of serenity kicking around, we gotta talk after the show. All right? With that way. You know, 10 minutes after he's done with that. Thank you very much for joining us. Have a great week. Be safe. God bless.