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The Devil's Candy
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Ever wondered if sitting too close to the stage at a comedy show is a good idea? We delve into the complexities of humor, particularly when it treads on the thin ice of controversial language, and tackle the uncomfortable reality of encountering performers with checkered pasts. Ending on a lighter note, we reminisce about a visit to an arcade bar where we took on the challenging nostalgia of Mario Kart on an old-school Nintendo 64.
Our chat takes a detour into the realm of beverages, where we hilariously debate the merits of quirky drink combos like Pepsi Mango and a fictional Jalapeño Mango Lime juice. This playful banter adds a refreshing twist to our movie talk, as we weigh the possibilities of these unusual drink choices becoming new favorites.
Brace yourself for a spine-tingling journey as we recount the eerie plot of a horror film where a man's psychotic break leads to terrifying events for a family moving into his former home. We dive into the intense psychological horror and family drama surrounding Jesse, an artist battling a menacing collector and a deranged stalker. From the implausible decision to stay in a haunted house to the climactic showdown that leaves Jesse's family in mortal danger, we dissect every chilling detail. Wrapping up with a nostalgic chat about classic horror films and Halloween prep, this episode promises a rollercoaster of emotions, from laughs to chills. Tune in and join the fun!
yeah, I mean it was cool, y'all fans. I mean we have fans of Lieutenant, is that? Did that not sound what I was trying to say?
Wilson:what.
Captain:I swear I have not had that much to drink. She was here. We went to a comedy show by like a fairly professional comedian. I don't think you would have heard of them Jensen Jackson or something. That's wrong. That's wrong. That's wrong, okay.
Wilson:I mean, it sounds like a comedian's name, I guess.
Captain:Jameson Jackson.
Wilson:It was a J Jameson Jackson.
Captain:It was a JJ, it was a something.
Wilson:J Jonah Jameson.
Captain:John Jacob Jameson, I to jj. It was a something. J jonah jameson, john jacob jim I I. It was fun. The opening comedian was fun too. I will say I am confused about um. I don't know. Do you ever see professional comedians?
Wilson:uh, we've been to a couple yeah okay, how are they? I mean I had a good time. I think my biggest fear is it's like I want to sit close to the front but.
Captain:I don't want to be too close that I get specifically called out as part of some joke yes, but I do like them in general I saw um, the only I'm trying to remember, remember in a small setting, while we went to a comedy show with that pedophile in California.
Wilson:Chris D'Elia we saw him.
Captain:That was kind of crazy to think about now you don't think about that. I think about that probably once every month or so, because it's so weird.
Wilson:I think about that probably like once every month or so, because it's like so weird, I think like maybe once a year or something.
Captain:Once a month is probably too much, maybe like once every two months, okay, but like isn't that weird, like we saw him Anyway. And then I've seen Adam Ray. That one was fun, that was in Atlantic City a couple years ago and I did sit at the front, for that one was fun, that was in Atlantic City a couple years ago and I did sit in like at the front for that one but they didn't really pick on us much.
Captain:They picked on he picked on the um guys that were rolling like 13 deep um, because he was like, because he was like what is this a bachelor party? And they were like no, and he was like what the fuck? And then he just went in on them as to like why are you doing this if it's not a bachelor party? Um, but we saw, jordan jensen, that was their name, jordan okay, that sounds fake, I know but that's what it was.
Captain:I I just I'm confused by um, I don't know. They still say slur words. I feel like they get away with it because it's for comedy. But it is a little off-putting when you're in a room with a bunch of people and they're just putting them out there, you're like, oh yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's just a little icky, yeah.
Wilson:I guess I haven't. Like I think the ones we went to we didn't experience that. However, like if you, for example, I don't mind if a gay comedian says, like the F word.
Captain:Right Basically. I think that's funny.
Captain:That's different, but it has to be like it's like know your audience and be part of the audience, like yeah no, like her whole stick was that like people always assume that she's like lesbian or bi or something Uh-huh, but she's not Like. That's like part of her stick and that she like wishes that she was into women and she like has a lot of like. She was talking about how like she feels like she is slightly part of the community because a lot of her friends are, but it's still like. She made the point that she's like not so when she's like throwing out like the d slur and like and like.
Captain:She also was throwing out like the like slur for mentally disabled, like, like oh yeah, I don't know, it was just, I thought we were like way no, no, apparently not they said it like I don't know Even the host. What's the little like MC? Yeah, I think she said it too and I was like, oh, really.
Wilson:I guess we do that here.
Captain:Yeah, I was like maybe I'm out of the loop, maybe comedians have a pass. I don't know. It was kind of weird, but most of the show was funny, though, like most of the show, I could get behind. It was funny. Um, yeah and uh, we went to a. Um, have you been to like an arcade bar? Those are kind of fun yeah, uh, once or twice was it game on?
Wilson:uh, uh. I thought you were like is the mood, like is it like game one when you get in there. Yeah, pretty much uh no, it went to one in that, uh, ashville, and then there's sort of a place here that does it there's like a chain here of like it's called game on.
Captain:Oh, I think there's. I didn't know they really had chains. Yeah, it's like. I think there's like a chain here of like it's called game on.
Wilson:Oh, I think there's.
Captain:I didn't know they really had chains yeah, it's like I think there's like a couple locations and yeah, but I liked this one. We hadn't been to this one before and I liked it because they had a um nintendo 64 hooked up in the corner and you could play like 8-bit mario part cart, which is so much harder than the new Mario cart. Like you can't see what the fuck the screen has on it. Like I don't know how my eyes were watching that when I was like you can't see Everything's kind of blurry Everything. Like the carts are just like just two pixels on the screen. You're like what is this? What am I? What am I driving in?
Wilson:I think I saw a video like semi recently. It's like the graphics, like back then the tvs that you're looking at them on, they looked better. I mean they're obviously we've improved since then, but it's like because our tvs now are so nice, like you notice things you wouldn't have, like shapes or maybe like more, like you can really like for 8-bit or whatever you can really see, like the square shape oh, I see, okay, that makes sense I've noticed that in like tv shows from like a long time ago that if it's been like upgraded or I'm watching it on a nicer tv, like I'm thinking how did that get past?
Wilson:Who would approve that cut? Because there was that I don't know. Clearly somebody was in the shot or the ceiling wasn't on Boom mic. Yeah, but then I'm like, oh well, it was cut differently back then. So I think it's the same with those types of games.
Captain:Yeah, I don't know, I was like, ooh, this is tough, but it was fun. Yeah, a little hang, a little summer hang.
Wilson:A little lieutenant, captain hang.
Captain:Aye-aye.
Wilson:Aye-aye.
Captain:Aye-aye, but did you want to talk about this intro? This real amazing? Movie that we both saw.
Wilson:That makes it sound really sarcastic, even though I haven't heard your thoughts on the movie yet, but we both saw Alien Romulus, which I've been looking forward to for a while.
Captain:What did you think?
Wilson:I really liked it. I thought it called back to the other movies really well and it like set the vibe so well and then, like this, the scoring or whatever was good. Yeah, I really liked it it the.
Wilson:The movie is so good at stress inducing yes um, that I I actually I did really like it and I loved the homage to the other to the previous movies um, I saw online like some it's like split, like some people didn't mind it, other people like hated that they had like the get away from her, you bitch and uh you kind of like it's the, it's the line you're looking for, it's like the most famous line.
Wilson:So, like I don't know, I was totally down for it oh yeah, I thought it was fun when we were in the theater, at movie theater like myself included, like I don't know, I was totally down for it.
Captain:Oh yeah, I thought it was fun when we were in the theater at movie theater like myself included, like I don't know, maybe about like a dozen people.
Wilson:You can hear them like chuckle yeah, people know um, really good at stress, though I was like watching the movie I want to see it again and, like this time, I know what to be stressed for, so I think I can like, really enjoy it the movie starts out silent, and I was it was kind of like deafening I was like is something broken?
Captain:well, it was deafening because we're in the theater with probably like 40 people and they're all here to watch a movie on like a thursday night. So it's just like it's weird to just have 40 people sitting there in silence and the the movie is silent for like I don't know 20 seconds and you're like, yeah, you're like don't even want to pick up your drink. You're like it was fun and I liked that it wasn't like overly long. The story pushed through and like a correct amount of time.
Wilson:I'm tired of these Marvel movies that are like you know, we'll be three and a half hours, thanks, um, and this one was like perfect, so it was good and I think, uh, they're coming on the tv show set at a different time.
Captain:I saw that set 30 years in the past. I didn't know that they were doing that and then I was just looking into it because I saw the. I was like just looking into the movie, into the series, the franchise.
Wilson:I follow the subreddit and I feel like over the last couple of years, like every once in a while, there'd be a rumor about a movie or a show maybe coming and like sometimes they like they've fallen through, but everyone had seemed like very excited about this, um, but I I didn't. I couldn't remember, like until three months ago, whether or not this movie was, or like it was supposed to be, a show or a movie.
Captain:But speaking of movies, have you had a chance to see twisters yet, or no? No no nope, um sorry have you seen all the drama with the this Ends With Us movie?
Wilson:Yes, it's insane. I mean it's not insane, but it's like what is happening, it's so much.
Captain:I read the book. The book's decent, the book's pretty good, but I was interested in seeing the movie.
Wilson:But now, with all the drama, I like I don't know I feel like it like flipped very quickly because I saw all this hype for the movie and then suddenly, like you know, uh, what's her face?
Captain:blake is a terrible person yeah, it started out with like nobody liking the male character, justin. What's his name? Saldoni I don't.
Wilson:Yeah, I don't know.
Captain:You know I really liked him in Jane the Virgin TV show. I got hooked on Jane the Virgin and he's a great character in there. Yeah, wilson, I'd be so surprised if you were like, oh yeah, jane the Virgin, fuck yeah.
Wilson:I feel like a lot of people say to watch it it is good.
Captain:It's like a modern telenovela like and it's not like a. It's like not something that's like.
Captain:It's like has the drama without it being like so outrageous that you're like this is a satire like it's not um, uh, but yeah, I liked him in there and I don't know. It started out with, like supposedly he wasn't like friends with anybody on the cast, but then you hear all this stuff like in response. It's like no, actually blake levy just made everything terrible and you're like what I don't know. I, I did watch gossip girl and after that all this came out. I do remember being like. I do remember hearing this the rumors that the main, the two main best friends on Gossip Girl Blake Lively being one of them that the other girl didn't like her either Leighton Meester.
Wilson:Oh, okay, yeah.
Captain:But I don't know. And then people are digging up the fact that they got married on a plantation and I'm like oh yeah it's like apparently they already addressed that like 10 years ago when people brought it up then. But yeah, I don't know the whole thing's terrible.
Wilson:So yeah, I'm I'm probably not gonna watch the movie. I am curious how all this unfolds, like if she can recover her public image.
Captain:Yeah, Some people have problems with Colleen Hoover even before the whole movie thing started, Because now don't quote me on this, but from what I remember, it's like Write it down.
Captain:From what I remember, her son has been like like accused of sexually assaulting somebody or something and obviously colleen hoover it's her fucking son. So she's gonna defend him and say that you know, that's not true. He didn't blah, blah, um. And people are like some people have a problem with colleen hoover because of that and I'm like I do understand, but any parent is going to defend their child basically to the end of the earth, right? I mean?
Captain:yeah I, I don't. I don't know. Maybe she said stuff about like victim blaming, or I I don't know the specifics, but I do know that she's already. Colleen hoover herself has already had some heat as the writer, and then blake lively. Now has all this heat being like grab your florals, come on down to this movie, even though it's like about domestic violence, uh yeah, and then I don't know, and then on top of this movie it's just like uh, icky, not, not good yeah, so we'll see how that goes yeah, but honestly I was like trying to look into into what movies I would want to see next, but currently, after seeing Aliens, Twisters, Deadpool vs Wolverine, I'm like I don't know what I want to see next.
Wilson:Oh well, actually we're seeing Everything Everywhere All at Once is going back to theaters in IMAX.
Captain:Oh okay so we're going to go see in imax, oh, okay so we're gonna go see that. Oh okay, okay, that's an opinion and we saw long legs already. Um trap had terrible reviews so I think that might be added to a movie.
Wilson:To wait, what got terrible reviews trap the um. We just talked about this in the other podcast I know it's yeah, and I'm the one with the thing that I with the um serial killer at the taylor swift concert or whatever. Oh, that got bad reviews.
Captain:I was hoping that would somehow be really good I wanted it to be good, but I'm pretty sure it has like not not good, like audience two. Let me look at it, audience is 65.
Wilson:That's not bad.
Captain:Okay, okay. What's the critics?
Wilson:55.
Captain:Okay, that's actually not that bad.
Wilson:I think this movie is probably exactly what I expect it to be.
Captain:You're not expecting a masterpiece.
Wilson:No, I'm just expecting like something fun.
Captain:Yeah, I did see that there's this movie called skincare. That looks kind of interesting okay, it has elizabeth banks as the main character, and it's like a suspense movie about a talented esthetician in west hollywood that becomes convinced someone's trying to destroy her life that sounds fun right and it kind of is like it reminds me of. I mean, she did the um cocaine bear movie um that was elizabeth, thanks. So like I don't know, I think it's kind of the same vibe in the sense of like, but she's in this one.
Captain:Yeah, she's she is in she's the main character, assuming I think it's. I think it's like another thing that's like very loosely based on a true story.
Wilson:Okay.
Captain:So, um, I don't know, I kind of want to see that, but anyway, that's what I got. Oh, I'm having another Florida seltz for my crank, are you still?
Wilson:crank.
Captain:Are you still sipping on a cone?
Wilson:What are you talking about? A Kona? Oh, I thought it was related to what you were talking about. No, I've moved on to bigger and better things. It's a La Croix.
Captain:Spicy.
Wilson:Spicy.
Captain:What flavor?
Wilson:Pamplemousse.
Captain:I really wanted key lime. Uh, they didn't have it. You know I'm not a big fan of lime flavored. Uh, like the drink, the whole flavor is lime sure I love a lime accent. A lime accent you're gonna get me every day wait, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
Wilson:No, like a lime accent makes like that'll tie a whole drink together oh sure, but you don't want like a limeade or like no, oh my god the white claw that's just lime flavored.
Captain:I I mean I'll deal with it, but I do not.
Wilson:It's not my fave um so like it's the essence of it, or if it's like mixed with another fruit in a drink. Yeah, so like if it was like a mango lime. I don't know if they ever even do that why are you just trying to destroy two flavors? You know that that, um, uh, what is it? Ocean spray, or uh, wilson's, like they have a lot of crayon apple, but like a mango lime mango lime yeah, well, they kind of have crayon in there.
Wilson:I think every drink has crayon oh, okay, well, I mean crayon, mango lime, I don't know.
Captain:Ew, Ew. I mean crayon mostly takes over everything, but those drinks save so many people in college, man, Like I don't think.
Wilson:Wait, you mean like as a mixer? Yes, Okay, I thought you meant like making them feel better the next day. I was like that's not how I drink that.
Captain:No, as like a mixer. So it's like a little bit less like it's a serious dilution of the alcohol, because otherwise I think, um, I might have died.
Wilson:So yeah, I wouldn't do that again, though like, uh, like uncaffeinated, not caffeinated carbonated, just straight up juice and liquor, and both room temperature.
Captain:Speaking of fun mixed drinks I can't remember if I sent this to you or not. Do you know that they have Pepsi Mango in the stores now?
Wilson:No, what is Pepsi Mango?
Captain:I mean, I know what it is, I guess, but like they literally make a mango flavored pepsi and I saw that in the store and I said stop, sir, go to jail yeah, I, I am curious, though I like I kind of want to try it Ew. What is that? Why are you sending me that Jalapeno? Oh my God, Jalapeno.
Wilson:Mango lime.
Captain:Jalapeno mango lime as a fruit juice with jalapenos in it.
Wilson:Someone probably likes it. It's like that sound?
Captain:Why is it spicy? Why is it spicy?
Wilson:Yes, what was mypsi mango? Yes, um, I will say so. I definitely try it, but I think that sounds like a really fun name.
Captain:Like pepsi mango, it just rolls off your tongue it's uh, yeah, like it's like imagine your dog was just named pepsi mango actually that does kind of slap as a pet name, right like it's such a cute little like, can we have pepsi mango, I mean? I know an animal named pepsi and I know well, I should say, I know a pet named pepsi and I also know a pet named mango. So, um, they do happen are they brother sister? No unrelated unrelated unrelated. I don't want to. I I don't think pepsi mango would be good. I'm gonna be honest let's try it.
Wilson:Let's have a spiked pepsi mango for the next podcast are you?
Captain:I don't want to deal with throwing the trash away of the undrank cans um so I need to try it. Okay, well, let me know.
Wilson:If I actually end up seeing it in stores tonight, I'll get it. It's in there Anyway.
Captain:I'm enjoying my one and only the pomegranate.
Wilson:Bevagino.
Captain:Yeah.
Wilson:How about we pop in? Yeah, let's pop in here. Hit it all, right, hit it uh. Welcome to the 157th episode of the red run podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two and I'm captain and I'm wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 2015, also 2016, also 2017 film the devil's candy. Uh, this was directed by sean burn um how do you get a regular name? And I get are you saying this I get.
Captain:What was it?
Wilson:Kari, yeah, something, yeah, and I come over here and it's like John Smith. So this is. The director was Sean Byrne. He's really only known for the movie the Loved Ones, which was his breakout film.
Captain:I've heard of that. Did we do that? No?
Wilson:uh, I don't think so okay critically acclaimed australia. Oh, I could watch a horror movie with australian accents. I think I might have seen this then, if we didn't do it for the podcast I have never seen these people in my life that I'm looking at in this cover photo well, they're australian, so you wouldn't really know them not like. Okay, um uh, all right, what do we got? Uh what?
Wilson:was I saying okay, so that was it for the director. Okay, uh, the cast. Oh yeah, you were saying earlier, it's basically just five people yeah, just like the last movie um so, uh, first we have ethan embry, who plays jesse the dad. Um, he's like kind of one of those actors that you see in everything but you don't really know his name but you like recognize their face because you're like, I've seen that face yeah, like the ones that it says he's known for.
Wilson:I don't, I don't recognize these. Uh empire records. Can't hardly wait but you do.
Captain:He's been in sneaky pete and the walking dead and I've seen both of those.
Wilson:So yeah, I probably recognize him from walking dead.
Captain:Yeah, he looks like a walking dead character. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Wilson:Hot off the press he looks like he probably was like one of those characters. That means well, but got somebody dead like it was their fault yeah, yeah, yeah um, then we have shiri appleby, who plays astrid.
Captain:Uh, this is the mother yeah, yeah, it's the mom, yes, okay okay yeah she's known from Roswell.
Wilson:I never watched that show, but I've always wondered if I'd like it.
Captain:I think it sounds like a banger and I don't know anything about it besides the title.
Wilson:I kind of feel like it was just a team drama that took place in Roswell, so it was like spooky.
Wilson:Oh, so like that hayden penitentiary show you mean like heroes yeah wow, no comment I tried, I did um well, the premise is it presents a timeline where the ufo roswell exists and the aliens are hiding in plain sight as a trio of high school students bro, that sounds like a banger, but it also sounds like it could be terrible yeah, katherine heigl's in it, colin hanks katherine heigl oh, emily de raven, if you remember from lost which one's which character australian girly claire yeah whoa claire's in this show apparently claire, I'm gonna be honest and and maybe, oh, I see her um.
Captain:I mean, who knows, maybe her acting's great in roswell, her acting in lost is terrible.
Wilson:I mean, she was like two years old.
Captain:I'm saying that now as like a professional film critique.
Wilson:That's true, as we are.
Captain:you know, I have that award that was given to me.
Wilson:That's true, you're qualified. So, um, that's basically it. She was also in chicago fire, but I don't know. It's one of those fire tv shows. Um, uh, then we have kiara glasgow who plays zoe the daughter yeah uh, she was in the show bitten. I've heard of it.
Captain:I never watched it I've heard of it too.
Wilson:Yeah, never um map to the stars. I don't know.
Captain:She's like probably still almost a kid right. I mean, she was like fairly young in this right.
Wilson:I guess, but that was like 10 years ago now, almost, depending on what year you were no.
Captain:It says she's now 23, so she's still like an hit C alright well anyway, that's all I got for her.
Wilson:Then we have Pruitt, who plays Ray.
Captain:Now, this guy you would recognize.
Wilson:Yes, again, one of those people that you see in everything, or lots of things.
Captain:You just said his first name Pruitt Taylor Vince.
Wilson:Oh, wow.
Captain:Just Pruitt. Everyone knows who that is. I mostly recognize him from the Walking dead series because I recently watched it where he plays otis um that he was a really good character in the walking dead. But yeah, you recognize him from a bunch of stuff. Honestly, like I don't even know all this stuff. I, I don't not the we're not what's listed here for me, like identity and constantine, I don't know constantine's good.
Wilson:You should see that.
Captain:Is it a movie Show?
Wilson:Yeah, it's Keanu Reeves. It's about the angel Constantine or something.
Captain:Not that vampire movie.
Wilson:I think it's vampire adjacent.
Captain:Okay, actually, I might have seen this now that I'm looking at it, because it's like pretty old 2005. Yeah, um, but yeah, he's, he's the guy with the eyes yeah, he has creepy eyes I wouldn't say creepy. He has that eye condition where they uh wiggle forever wow, now you're making me be the dick.
Wilson:Wait, that's actually a condition where his eyes just constantly.
Captain:Yeah, you didn't notice that.
Wilson:I just thought it was part of his character.
Captain:No, no, no. It's an actual condition that people have. There was somebody in college I met that had the same condition.
Wilson:Oh.
Captain:And it makes vision really hard because your eyes are constantly wiggling and apparently, um, it also. I think it also it does something else. Was it migraines or something? Um, yeah, I can't, what is that called? I'm like trying to remember what that's called. What that? Oh?
Wilson:nystagmus Involuntary eye movement and it can reduce or limit your vision. That sucks.
Captain:Oh yeah, I remember I looked into this when we were watching the Walking Dead. But basically your eyes are constantly moving because there's a malfunction, I think, in your brain where it thinks that you are, you're moving. So it's trying to uh, re, uh, like reposition your eyes to stay, be stable, where where your brain thinks you're moving but you're not moving. So there's really not fascinating? Not much they can do about it yeah um, yeah, anyway, okay well that's pritt um, and then the last person. Who is this? Who's leonard?
Wilson:uh, this is the art.
Captain:Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, collector yeah, so tony amandola uh plays leonard um, I so.
Wilson:Tony Amendola plays Leonard. I recognize him from Stargate. He's also in a bunch of episodes of Charmed.
Captain:Master Bratak.
Wilson:Bratak.
Captain:Oh.
Wilson:Oh, and Dexter.
Captain:He would be Geppetto. He would definitely be Geppetto. I think I remember him making a good Geppetto. He would definitely. He would definitely be Geppetto.
Wilson:I think I remember him making a good Geppetto good for her good for her. Alright, so that's the cast. So, captain, you'll notice that the synopsis is a little different than usual, because this was another chat.
Wilson:GPT casualty oh, it's a little uh, yeah I mean, it is whatever, we'll get into it. It just groups it in an interesting way, um. So basically it starts off with ray is like at home, you're assuming, um, and he starts like hearing this weird devilish whisper, yeah. And then his mom comes in the room and this is an adult man and she's like you know what? That's it. You're going back to the mental hospital, you're not ready to be home, and as she's walking away, he comes up behind her and hits her with a bat or something.
Captain:Yeah, down the stairs to her day at.
Wilson:Yeah, to her day at. And then his dad comes home and then it cuts to a little bit later and we find out that the dad also died.
Captain:Yeah during this psychotic break, he's playing a guitar really loud and I think you realize further into the movie that he's playing a guitar really loud. And I think you realize further into the movie that he's playing the guitar that loud because he's trying to drown out the voices that he's hearing, um, so I think that's like why his mom came into the room to tell him to shut the fuck up. Um, because guitar was turned up to like level 11, um, and uh, oh, I was gonna say um during that scene that they do that upside down cross and I get it like that's supposed to be evil, whatever. But oh, my god, harmony's love, an upside down oh yes, they do they will eat that up.
Captain:I'm like guys, we get it. I've seen so many upside down crosses like it's just, it's just eye rolls at this point.
Wilson:But there's some in your bedroom right now.
Captain:I know, I'm just pulling them out of out of every every which way, so, but yeah, that was my, my takeaway, but then, yeah, you meet. Uh, what's his name?
Wilson:jesse, jesse and astrid no, and yeah, all three they are, I guess. So we find out that Jesse is an artist. He's like painting and shit he's a painter, yeah, yeah, yep. So I guess he's trying to sell his artwork and they're in an apartment and they basically like they're about to go to a, like a house viewing or something, because they want to move into a bigger space.
Captain:Um, so they go see this house and it's the house from the beginning of the movie yeah, and the you know this is like their real estate agent is like a deep texan and he has like a thick texan accent, but he's uh basically says, like you know, by law which I don't know what, I do wonder if this is texas law but he said by law, like I have to tell you of, like a death happened in this house and he downplays it a lot. You know he was like, well, you know, a little old lady fell down the stairs. You know nothing we can really do about that, just like a sad little accent. And and then he says, um, and the husband, um, just couldn't live another day without his poor, uh, love of his life gone. So you know what's a little? You know accidental death plus suicide and uh, it was definitely more like a homicide suicide.
Captain:But yeah, yeah, he definitely had some facts but that doesn't deter them from buying the house no, it's like a.
Wilson:It's a cheap house. They want it and you know, jesse thinks it might inspire his art, uh, so they move in, yeah. So I guess pretty quickly sort of things, weird things start to happen. So I think it is that at this point the movie like cuts to a different scene where we're following the guy, the murderer, from the beginning and he's like stalking these two kids in a park and he's like stalking these two kids in a park.
Captain:Um, yeah, I think, before that you get him again trying to play a really loud guitar, like in um in like a motel yeah, um, and a cop's already come and talked to him about it.
Captain:There was a noise complaint and he was like don't make me come back here. So I think because of that he can't stay in the motel anymore. So then you you do kind of see him, um, like start to stalk kids in the park. But before that, um, you get the scene of zoe being dropped off at school, um, and I think you find, oh no, no, sorry, sorry. Even before that, zoe and ray meet each other, because ray comes to the house after he gets kicked out of the motel oh right, yeah, yeah, um.
Wilson:So he's basically like he's, he's. He is unsettling them because he's saying, like you know, I, uh, this is my house. Or like I live here, this is my parents.
Captain:So like they make the connection like, oh, this guy used to live here and his parents died yeah, um, but I think what really creeps about is that zoe answers the door and she's got to be like maybe what 14, 15? And she answers the door and this like fully adult, grown man starts talking to her and having like a full conversation without her parents and like doesn't even ask like can I talk to your parents? So by the time the jesse goes, comes out there they're like in full conversation and he's like yo, what the fuck is going on? Like why are you talking to my daughter like this? Um, but you know he doesn't necessarily ray, doesn't seem like he necessarily like means harm, he just seems like a confused person that remembers his parents living here, um, but I will say there is a creep factor and like nobody besides like zoe and astrid have like no stranger danger acknowledgement. It's like so weird. They're like mad at jesse for being quote-unquote mean, where he's like you need to leave and if you don't leave, I'm calling the police.
Captain:And they're like, wow, dad, that was so mean and I'm like, uh, what? I don't? Am I crazy for that?
Wilson:no, I mean, I think he did escalate the situation more than it needed to. But yeah, that's like this is. You need to protect your family.
Captain:This is potentially dangerous was this the scene where ray was like hitting the doorbell over and over and over again?
Wilson:yes, yeah, like after he closed the door.
Captain:Yeah, that's not normal behavior yeah so no, like. But yeah, they're like genuinely mad at him for like shutting the door. I'm like guys, no, no, no. But uh, during that conversation he has with zo, they talk about that red split guitar thing.
Wilson:Oh, the Flying V or something.
Captain:Yeah, flying V. And he said, well, I have one, I can give it to you. And the next morning they wake up and the Flying V is on their lawn with a speaker for Zoe Again, huge creep factor.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:But I think that's the first, like drop off to school, that jesse gets in trouble because he kind of gets lost in his art oh yeah, and she like, or he picks her up really late, and it's like a whole thing yeah, he forgets to pick her up. Um, and she's, you know, reasonably, reasonably mad.
Captain:Yeah, being left at school or being forgotten, like that's terrible. But she kind of uses this as leverage where she's like, okay, well, I'll be fine if you let me keep the flying V, so she gets to keep it. But at this point Jesse's kind of already he's like hearing the voices and kind of like going through it, so he doesn't I wouldn't say he doesn't't care, but he's a lot more focused on his art at this point oh yeah, he's like channeling whatever dark forces in the house in his art.
Wilson:Um, now, I think is this where the the the park scene yeah. Yeah, so what's his name?
Captain:Ray.
Wilson:Yeah, ray. So he's stalking these like it's an older brother and like a I don't know five to ten-year-old or something. He sneaks up behind like the young kid and hits him over the head with a rock kid and hits him over the head with a rock and basically, like the next scene, it cuts. It'll cut back and forth, like between um jesse, like while he's painting it's a lot of like reds and such and it'll.
Captain:Then it'll cut back to ray and he's like chopping up the kid yeah, and you don't necessarily notice this or like realize it while it's happening. But yeah, basically he is channeling whatever energy is happening at the killing in his art. And you kind of forgot the worst part is Ray like not only kills them, but then he like shoves them in a suitcase and then buries them.
Wilson:Oh yeah, it's really terrifying On the property like of the house Of the of the house no longer lives in right right um, so this like painting that uh jesse ends up drawing is like basically a group of kids like burning, like suffering, and one of them is uh like his daughter yeah, um, and he does kind of tell his wife he's like I can't stop, like like they're screaming at me to paint this, um.
Captain:But I will say when astrid hears about this and she's like no, you absolutely can stop, she's like a little too chill about it because their daughter's in the painting on fire. And I don't know if I was, if that was my partner, I don't care how much of a painter you are or like how artistic you are, but like I'm gonna be like no, incorrect nope no, no, you're going somewhere, something's happening.
Captain:A doctor needs to see you. This is not normal. But after this is the most terrifying that night is the most terrifying scene of the entire movie ray slides into bed, into view, into zoe's bed, zoe's bed. So zoe is sleeping in her bed and you're seeing it from above, from like a, a ceiling view with the camera, and, yeah, he just slides into frame, into the bed and I was like, oh my god, the fear of waking up to that, basically stranger's face in your face. I can't even imagine. I was truly like cringing and like backing away from the TV when they were doing this.
Wilson:It was nasty.
Captain:Yeah.
Wilson:So I think obviously she screams, but he covers her mouth and he's like I'll only uncover it if you promise not to scream. And he threatens her or something. It's the little nursery rhyme he does stick of finger, finger hope to die or something that that like that, that whole thing and then so he uncovers her mouth and obviously she screams again, and then I think then the family runs in, well, actually just the mom.
Wilson:And then like, eventually ray runs out the front door but jesse had been like sleep painting or something so like they crashed into each other on their way in and out the house just think it's like, uh, like hard kicked in the head yeah and almost run over I mean that guy was booking it out of the house yeah, um, but I don't know.
Captain:It doesn't sound like that really goes anywhere the first time that that happens. I think the next scene is when Ray gets his chance with that art gallery guy.
Wilson:And because of that, wait, jesse.
Captain:Sorry, jesse, and because of that again he is late to school. How do you feel about that scene with the art gallery guy?
Wilson:it was like he was like so menacing for some reason yeah, I mean he must have been like somehow in on it, like maybe I don't know but oh really he just seemed like too malevolent and also he only was interested in the artwork. That was basically like hellish landscapes oh, he does.
Captain:He does raise his glass, because I think jesse was like I'm sorry, I do want to stay here and talk to you but I have to go pick my daughter up for school. And he does say, like well, what's art without sacrifice or something, and tries to like cheers their glasses together to that. And I'm sorry, man, I don't play with people's kids. Like I'm sorry man, I don't play with people's kids. Like just don't do it, don't play with people's kids. He like, basically, was taunting jesse to see if jesse will choose the art and the gallery collector over his daughter, um, which I guess he kind of does, because he I part of the reason why he's late is because he blows a tire out, but I think he also yeah, he's trying to get, yeah, he's like trying really hard to get there.
Captain:But Well, it doesn't work because his daughter gets stolen from school. Yep, yep.
Wilson:And what she's tied up at the motel.
Captain:Yep with Ray yep um, and what she's tied up at the motel.
Captain:Yep with ray, yep yeah, and you basically see ray getting ready to chop her up yeah, we do get a title drop of the movie in this scene, because he again this is one of my worst fears when I watch a movie but he sticks his finger in an open wound of hers and then eats the blood and then says, oh sweetest candy, devil's sweetest candy, or some shit like that. And I, every time someone touches blood in a movie, I'm always like, oh my god, don't eat it, please don't eat it. Like it's, like it's an intrusive thought where I'm like please don't eat it, don't touch it, stop doing that. And but he actually did it in this movie, which is like I hate it, I hate it.
Wilson:Yeah, it was gross, but she's locked in the bathroom and he's getting ready to come in and chop her up.
Captain:And she's smart.
Wilson:Yeah, how did she get out again with her?
Captain:She's tied up with tape and she finds the edge of one of the tape rolls or one of the wraps around her and she picks it off. Enough just so some sticky stuff is open and she hard pushes it firmly, presses it into the floor so that the tape is stuck and then she just basically rolls herself open and free.
Wilson:So by the time that ray gets into the bathroom she's already 80 out of the window yeah, and so she gets out and then it like cuts to basically her being home with her family. It cuts the police station, but yeah yeah, okay, the police station.
Captain:You do, you do find out, uh, what jesse talks to the cop about, like what ray's history was, and apparently he was in the psych ward for 20 years, um, and, uh, recently got out. My first question would be and I'm jesse, didn't ask this, but I'd be like why the fuck is he out? Why is this person out? What's happening? I I think, though, jesse is hearing those low, like, um, chanting devil voices, and I think, basically, he's asking, like, why is ray like this? Is he? He doesn't say this to the cop, but I think he's trying to figure out if he's like this because he's hearing the same voices that jesse's hearing.
Wilson:To make this like really disturbing art, um, which it sounds like it is the same voice yes, um, and I don't know, maybe he has like a way to channel it into his art that he doesn't need to kill people, or maybe he would have gotten to that point. I don't.
Captain:I don't really know what they're doing with that, but I think I kind of figured it out by the end what they were doing with that. But then there's basically one last scene of the movie after this, the night, the final night, where everything happens, where there's cops stationed outside for protection, but, uh, they don't really do too much when it comes to ray no, they're like ray basically drives straight into them and they die slowly and painfully. Pinned between two cop cars.
Wilson:Yep.
Captain:Yeah.
Wilson:So then Ray, basically he ends up coming inside, he shoots Jesse.
Captain:With a cop's gun he steals off their bodies.
Wilson:Yes and then. So Jesse's basically down. Then Astrid and Zoe hide in a closet.
Captain:You see this out of frame or like out, like he goes in there, shoots the mom and then he drags, like Zoe, out yeah, yeah, it's really scary that I will say the scream, the screaming that's happening sounds very realistically terrified, um, like a little too realistic, where I was like, oh, I don't want, I'm like too involved yeah, like too real I'm like in the house and the screams sound very, very like actual terror.
Captain:Um so like I guess good acting it was yeah yeah so, but he's dragging her all throughout the house as he's doing his chores, basically but he won't like, let Zoe go. But the main chore is just pour gasoline on everything yes, and so, like, the parents end up outside and Jesse wakes up and now I feel like this is a little realistic, because he got shot. I mean that's pretty close to the rib cage, but he wakes. He has like enough I don't know Adrenaline pumping that he can get his wife outside. But Ray already lights the house on fire, with Zoe in her bedroom upstairs.
Captain:It sounds like he was. It did look like he was prepared to die with her in that house, I think yeah, I think yeah, I think he was unless he would have like been fine through the fire jesse, obviously he was going to try to save his daughter oh yeah.
Wilson:So he climbs up the outside of the house and then kind of like breaks into her window, um, and then there's like a sort of like fight.
Captain:Um, at one point uh ray gets like pushed into the flames sort of, and like he turns all embery and his eyes like glow, melty, melty honestly, this is one of the coolest scenes in the movie in my opinion, because the jesse and zoe bond over the fact that they both really like like metallica and heavy metal.
Captain:Um, so you hear it. You hear them bonding over that about in the beginning of the movie. And now here at the end of the movie, when he's saving, when he's like risking his life to save her, the metallica is, uh, turned all the way up like in the soundtrack of the movie and jesse is literally like beating ray almost to death with the flying v and it's like like there's just like crazy metallica music that's going on at the same time and it's like kind of cool, like the soundtrack slaps with the events that are happening oh yeah I don't know if you picked like I didn't really notice it, but I think, like I remember, like vibes, yeah, yeah it was, everything hit and it was like a nice Solid vibe of what was going on.
Captain:But yeah, I don't think I mean. Ray's face Basically melts off.
Wilson:So yeah, I think he also gets stabbed With the broken flying bee.
Captain:Yeah, yeah, but anyway Jesse Saves Zoe grabbed with the broken flying. Yeah, yeah, but anyway jesse saves zoe by. So basically there's a scene where she has to like, so when he forgets her from school, this is like a big thing in the movie she like, she says, like I don't trust you, I can't trust you anymore, um, or you're a liar, basically. So there's a scene where she has to jump over a line of fire to get jesse to, to have jesse save her, and he, like gives her a line of like you know, you have to trust me, or something. It's like this um, overcoming, um, you know, uh, bond, yeah, whatever promises being broken in the past, and she trusts him and she jumps and they live. But the scene at the end is when Jesse realizes he can still hear the children screaming in his head even after Ray is dead and I thought this was.
Wilson:I was nervous, I was like, is this where it's going to make the ending just bad? I thought this was. I was nervous, I was like, is this where it's going to make the ending just bad? So I actually kind of liked the ending because the voices brought him to like the hole in the ground where Ray had been hiding all the bodies of the children he killed. So like the voices he was hearing were, I guess, the kids sort of telling their story, but also like where to dig them up and like and like to free them essentially. So I think in that way ended on a positive note.
Captain:Yeah, I think what the movie was going for was that we're supposed to think that Jesse's just next in line to hear crazy voices because of the environment of this house and he's going to be the next. He's going to either partake in the killing or be the next killer, right like. I think that's the vibe that the movie's trying to give us. But the twist is he's actually like the the like if ray's evil, like jesse's like good, and they both are experiencing, uh like, this terrible thing that's happening. Ray causing it because he's the evil side, but jesse is fully experiencing it because he's like the good, um, so he can hear the same voices. But I guess once ray's dead, um, I don't know maybe he can hear the voices better or something, and he can like uncover the bodies. I don't know, maybe I'm like pulling a lot out of that, but that was kind of what that was like the theme that I was getting okay, I would like, I like that and I think like I think that's, that's what I was getting.
Captain:I was like, oh, that's kind of refreshing that like the dad is not the killer, like it's like it's always the husband and oh yeah but it's like not in this movie yes, and I, I I really appreciated that with this movie.
Wilson:Like you said, it was very refreshing.
Captain:Yeah, I will say, the hardest suspense like what is it Suspendous belief is the fact that this family now I get it. You just bought a house, but for the love of God, after the first attack attempt on your daughter's life, why the fuck are you here? Why?
Wilson:Didn't they want to put them in witness protection? Yeah, they offered that.
Captain:They said they were going to do it tomorrow morning. But, but Wilson, bro, no, the first attack. I'm leaving this city. I'm probably going to the next state. I'm not dealing with this shit. It was your teenage daughter. Like bro, I don't care what's happening at least take. Take a couple of days somewhere else, like go to your mom's, your, you know, the grandma's house or something. I mean what is happening?
Wilson:oh yeah, that's crazy and like if, if it's that bad that you're being put in witness protection, they're not gonna put you back in the house where the crime occurred like one more night yeah, they're like we'll do it tomorrow morning yeah, no, they could do it tomorrow morning, but they have to stay at like a safe house in the meantime I know.
Captain:No, none of that it was, I don't know. That's so crazy to me like that. That's really really crazy to me.
Wilson:So that was your suspend disbelief type scenario.
Captain:Yeah bro, I can't imagine any situation in which I would just stay in the house, where somebody had crawled into my teenage daughter's bed and kidnapped her.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:Are you insane? And that person's still on the loose? Fuck, no, crazy, crazy Right, I mean it is yeah. Who's going to wiggle waggle back to that house in the same night? Absolutely not, never, absolutely not.
Wilson:No, wouldn't do it um, that was. That was the hardest part for me, but yeah, but they needed it for the plot, so is there um?
Captain:is there numbers or goose um?
Wilson:yes, I got some numbers um, so box office wise it's hard to say um, because it had a very limited theater release and then it went to video on demands but, it was like around a million to make apparently okay probably, um. Okay, so the critic score is 93 and the audience is 65. So critics really like this movie.
Captain:I get the appeal. It's thematic right. We have our good and evil. We have, like our family bonds, right.
Wilson:The acting is pretty good.
Captain:The acting is pretty good. It's artistic and I feel like critics like that a bit more. The soundtrack adds to the film, so like I get it, I wouldn't say I like loved it it's just like a little slow, I guess, I don't know. It's just like not exactly yeah, but that movie was even shorter than the movie we did last oh my god, I know this movie was like 70 minutes, yeah, um, but uh, I don't know, it's just, it's just a little too artsy or I don't know wow I don't know, I mean, what would you, I mean, if they?
Captain:if the critics is 93, audience is 65. I mean, where are you?
Wilson:uh, honestly, I feel like it's something similar to the movie last week, um yeah, it's not. This movie's not bad, it's just you know a little short, a little slow I would say like a you're 57, last movie yeah, so I'll just do 60. I liked it like maybe a little bit better, uh uh, uh, I'm sorry.
Captain:You like this movie better than altitude.
Wilson:I like a little fuck all the way off fuck all the way off like 3% better.
Captain:I would say this movie. I probably agree with the audience yeah, the audience, probably it's like a 65.
Wilson:It's not bad, it's just you know it's not good it's not, you know it's not good, it's not altitude okay, uh, so some goss wow, you have lots of goss I haven't read it yet, though, so I don't know we're gonna enjoy this swinging it yep, um, okay, so first one. Uh, when jesse is parking near the art gallery? Um, it is shown that the place is called belial so belial in the bible is the demon of seduction, a creature that corrupts people and makes them go mad or behave badly towards others.
Captain:Wow, love that okay.
Wilson:So when I saw that word, I was like I think that's a biblical word, but I couldn't remember if I was like confusing it with another one. Um, I thought that was cool. Um, another one, uh, when jesse meets leonard at his house, he's wearing a t-shirt that says find what you love and let it kill you oh yeah, he was wearing that shirt for like the last 20 minutes of the movie, or something yeah, uh, I don't.
Wilson:Actually I'm skimming the rest of that hot cost and it doesn't sound. I feel like it's just give me a quote charles bakowski. I don't know who that is yeah, just it goes on to like, I don't know, find your love and let it kill.
Captain:I mean, that's pretty spot on with his art.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:Oh, Pruitt originally turned down the role as Rey.
Wilson:Apparently.
Captain:After receiving an abundance of villainous roles, but the director wrote him an impassioned letter explaining how he needed someone capable of playing the lost child trapped inside of a monster. Wow, Damn.
Wilson:So he really just appealed to his ego.
Captain:Sometimes. I do know that sometimes directors write roles they're explicitly with an actor in mind, so it might have been one of those situations.
Wilson:Yeah, but usually that's like a.
Captain:I don't know, maybe he's more popular than I I expect, but I think he was pretty popular into like 2015 ish more than nah walking dead was would have been around that time, I think and his role was really big in that show for the time that he was on it okay, um the. The last thing about the song is kind of oh yeah, give me that one metallica's, for whom the bell tolls is the track that kicks off the end credits.
Captain:Um and sean burn can't thank the band enough. They watched and enjoyed an early cut of the film whoa um and they offer their song for a very reasonable rate. Once you have the Beatles of metal on your side, all the other bands joined to allow them to have a really great soundtrack. Oh my god, so cute.
Wilson:That is kind of cute, cute Good for her. This was like a passion project Maybe not passion, but it sounds like he really Sean Byrne put a lot of like love into this sean burn apparently was quoted when talica was watching the film.
Captain:He was quoted by saying I was shitting myself all right, um, that's like so cute I know, no, no, but I I think he was shitting himself like that metallica was watching his film.
Wilson:Oh, okay, yeah.
Captain:That part, yeah, oh my god, no, yeah, I just feel like that's so cute, though he's like my art.
Wilson:All right Sean.
Captain:Oh, do you have any rags, by the way?
Wilson:I went first last time, so I think you should go first. Um um, um, um went first last time, so I think you should go first I actually don't think I pulled one out, to be honest. I didn't either, oh sorry.
Captain:No, definitely the scene Sorry, the scene of Ray sliding into Zoe's bed is by far the most terrifying of the whole movie, and that's definitely my rag.
Wilson:Raise my glass to that I think, uh, I was thinking along that lines because, or those lines because that that scene reminds me of um an old earnest movie earnest, scared, stupid and like the troll in that movie does like something very similar ernest scares. What the hell it's a fantastic movie, do you remember? Uh, jim varney, I think you voiced a. Did he voice a toy story character, I thought?
Captain:you were saying didn't you voice? And I was like whatever you're.
Wilson:No, wrong person.
Captain:I've never seen these. Ernest, you're stupid.
Wilson:It's like it's scary, but it's also like dumb fun. I don't know it terrified me when I was little.
Captain:There's a bunch of these.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:Wow, these look really stupid, are these like?
Wilson:goosebumps? Uh no, they're like. I mean they're kind of like kids movies, but they're not goosebump kids type thing okay, well anyway. Um, but my, I wouldn't say it feels weird to say raise a glass, but just I think in terms of shock value when he just like ran up to that kid on the swings and just like the movie actually just like, went for it and like.
Captain:Yeah, you actually see the rock like come in contact with the head, which usually it cuts before that. So I don't know how they did that scene, but it is pretty shocking to see it.
Wilson:Yes. Yeah, I mean it was probably like a foam, foam rock or something no, or they?
Captain:literally just like yeah, they were like that, was it? I mean metallica's about to watch this. What am I gonna do not?
Wilson:right, um. So, uh, what are we?
Captain:oh, oh, next time. Are we not doing it next week? Yeah, yeah, I have written down that we're doing the Uninvited.
Wilson:Oh my gosh. Yes, Is that another?
Captain:your pick.
Wilson:Yes, oh great, terrible, I think, if you were to search the transcripts, the number of episodes, I feel like I've probably said the Uninvited on.
Captain:Wait, is this from 2009? That sounds right, okay, um, oh. Is this maybe where it's like they just come to kill somebody, just to kill them. No, that's the strangers oh, how could I be so stupid, how could I be so fucking stupid, uh no, this has, um, uh, I almost said katherine heigl um elizabeth banks in it um 27 dresses, the uninvited yeah um, and then that girl, emily browning.
Wilson:We've watched a lot of movies recently with her. In it she plays a little girl. She's older than this, like Violet Baudelaire.
Captain:She looks, yeah, she looks hella familiar. What was she?
Wilson:in. If you just quickly look at her Filmography, you'll see which one we did.
Captain:Her big role, ghost Ship.
Wilson:Oh, that's what I just saw. Okay, I just saw, okay, I just watched that movie recently.
Captain:Oh, really, I was just fucking around oh wait, oh she's in Darkness Falls, that's.
Wilson:Okay, yes, literally, we just did that yeah.
Captain:We are stupid and we are dumb.
Wilson:Oh Magic, Magic.
Captain:No, no, she was in that one if this is the yeah, yeah nasty bitch I forgot about this movie.
Captain:I was confusing it with hashtag horror you're close enough, honestly yeah there are a few movies that go down in history with like the worst ones we've seen, and hashtag horror is one of those for me yeah hashtag horrors is definitely one of those. Um, but anyway, yeah, you're excited because, yeah, the uninvited is coming up and our halloween movie is going to be coming out. They're gonna, we're gonna be like doing that soon for October. Ow ow as soon as it hits September 1st, my Halloween decor is out baby.
Wilson:Oh yeah, yep, I'm ready for it.
Captain:We're almost there. Next week-ish Espresso. Do you have any last thoughts about the movie before advice? Uh, it's fine. Yeah, I, yeah, what's my. What advice do you have for me with this?
Wilson:don't live near a serial killer um, I think, uh, as soon as you start hearing voices in your house, leave oh, that's actually really good advice.
Captain:Okay, will do.