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The Uninvited
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The film discussion begins around 19:55.
We'll also dive into the latest TV show season finales and their streaming shifts to Paramount and Netflix, so you'll know exactly where to catch your favorites.
Remember how good Beetlejuice was? The sequel is out, and we're here to tell you why re-watching the original is a must. Our discussion ventures into unforgettable performances by William Dafoe and Catherine O'Hara, offering both laughter and nostalgia. Plus, we have some top-notch TV recommendations like "Schitt's Creek" and "Only Murders in the Building," alongside tips on navigating the epic "House of the Dragon" and "Handmaid's Tale." If you're into Korean dramas, we've got some intriguing picks from Netflix to add to your list.
Ready for some chills and thrills? We break down an AI horror concept that's eerily similar to an evil Alexa and compare it to Apple's family assistant robots. Our main event? A deep dive into the 2009 horror mystery "The Uninvited," where we unravel shocking plot twists and character revelations. We'll also touch on Elizabeth Banks' dual-layered character performance and the moral complexities of infidelity and recklessness in films. Buckle up for a rollercoaster of emotions and insights as we dissect these captivating stories!
wait that's probably not a long discussion wait more what more? I just started the season that was airing this summer I think I wait.
Captain:It was airing wait this summer, like it just ended.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, yeah, probably like oh I don't think I knew that was happening.
Captain:Wait, when did it end?
Wilson:Like either like the end of July or like sometime in August.
Captain:Oh, nah, Nah, I had no idea. I saw that they were putting it on what is it? Netflix or something, but I thought they were just putting on the old seasons yes to Netflix, but the new seasons on paramount no, I didn't know, all right so I'm gonna clear out that conversation.
Wilson:I'll put your work thing over there, wow I'm gonna have to send um a text.
Captain:I'm gonna have to speak to my manager. I'm going to have to send a text. I'm going to have to speak to my manager.
Wilson:I haven't finished it yet. I did like three episodes.
Captain:But yeah, wow, I feel like, am I the maniac?
Wilson:Are you like cussing someone out? Are you texting the actress Katja Like, excuse me?
Captain:All these expletives? Yeah, I will say. I don't know how much more they can do in that show. Is this the last season?
Wilson:So they don't want it to be. It is the last season, However. The main actress has been like campaigning on Instagram gotcha. Stephen King tweeted like he loves so she's been like re-gramming that just to get the show picked up.
Captain:Stephen King really likes that From show too that I love. I mean, they're both fantastic shows oh, you did watch from the whole thing yes, oh, I saw.
Wilson:I saw two seasons. I think the other one's not out yet right, right, right, right. Yeah, I oof per your recommendation that I didn't listen to for a long time, I did eventually watch from one of the many on the list um before we pop into the other things though, do you have a cerveza?
Captain:I do uh kona big wave wow, I have like an actual cerveza a little corona premiere yeah, the best one.
Wilson:Is there a lime in it? I heard you ask for one there'll be.
Captain:There's just lime juice we don't have actual. That counts yeah but it does the job very well. This is like. I mean. I don't even know. I'm pretty sure you're garbage if you're drinking this without lime inside of it, like it is insane how much a lime improves their drink. Like I can have a corona, it's fine, and then lime, yes the lime is like get ready, we're day drinking, we're blasting, we're baja.
Wilson:It's crazy it is so good if there's a lime in there, you're on vacation the vibes the vibes um, but yeah, I'm loving it.
Captain:Um, I will say these are hard to find and I was like in dire desperate corona premiere was hard to. Yeah, the liquor store. That's crawling distance, didn't? They don't have them.
Wilson:Well, they're kind of like artsy, aren't they?
Captain:Yeah, but like sometimes they have them. Not all the time, sometimes they do and then the other place we go that's like the warehouse we were like, okay, we'll go there. They didn't have them. And then I even asked the guy and he was like oh no, I was like you never have them. And he was like no, I was like fine, fuck you and then.
Captain:So I had to go a third place to get these, but I got them so you don't, you don't drink like regular corona, it has to be like corona premiere yeah, the corona extra is so extra, and then the corona light is just a worse version of corona premiere you know, if you hand me one of the three coronas, I know I no different oh, I feel like I could taste, test all of them and be like, yes, one, two, three I honestly didn't know there were more than two until you just said that I thought there was like premiere and then the one that I just get when I'm out there's Corona Extra, which is like the regular one, and then there's a Corona Light, which is light beer, and then the premiere, which is like get ready for crispy freshness.
Wilson:Sure, sure, sure do you remember that time I accidentally got uh, I was getting trying to get stella, but I accidentally got like the cider version no oh it's terrible cider, I feel like still it doesn't really have that, that flavor for a cider. I did that time. I did that time, that's for sure.
Captain:Okay, so did you want to talk about this movie that we just both saw?
Wilson:Yes, so last week you gave me homework to, so we watched Beetlejuice Beetlejuice in preparation for this episode, so we could talk about it and we also wanted to see it.
Captain:Did you re-watch the first one right before?
Wilson:We did Okay, well, yeah, like a week or so ago, yeah.
Captain:I don't. I would not recommend seeing the second one without recently refreshing on the first one.
Wilson:I was going to say I would not recommend watching the first one.
Captain:No, oh my gosh, there are so many like easter eggs and like little things that I feel like you would get, unless you recently saw the first one. Um, yeah, I, I, I thought that movie was so funny it was.
Wilson:It was really good. I think there were like one or two times where I was like, but it just like the, the montages I feel like went a little long, but overall I love the movie there's.
Captain:For me, there was nothing better than watching william defoe's character acquire a cup at every single scene that he enters and his assistant hands him a cup.
Captain:I don't know why, like I, I know that scene was for comedy, but like after the sixth or seventh time, I mean I'm like dying in a chair laughing and it was it was kind of weird, though, because in the movie theater we were laughing like pretty hard, but not like the other 12 people that were in the theater were with us were not laughing that hard, so I kind of tried to like mute or muffle my laughter, but I was having a good time. It was good. William Dafoe's character was good. I really liked him a lot it was really good.
Wilson:We had someone sitting next to us that, like before the first time that they said Beetlejuice three times, right after Winona finished saying it the second time, she was like it's like, you know what's going to happen. It's the whole shtick.
Captain:That is so cute.
Wilson:I think she was just having a really good time, but I was like um, I also was dying at the funeral that they're.
Captain:They're having a children's choir sing.
Wilson:Come, mr talima, I was I theater, like that a lot I was dying.
Captain:I was like, and then his fucking gravestone is just a glass shark fin. I caught it took me a while to catch on to was dying. I was like, and then his fucking gravestone is just a glass shark fin I caught.
Wilson:It took me a while to catch on to that, but I was like after they told us how he died, and then I was. I was like that headstone is a shark fin oh, it was really good. I honestly, though, I didn't realize why they killed his character off, and I had to google it afterwards and I was like oh god, I had no idea yeah, I forget why I looked that up like maybe a month or so ago, maybe in preparation for the movie.
Captain:I was curious why he wasn't in it, but yeah I I feel like plot wise though it works out well, like funerals always do bring families together. So I feel like oh yeah I feel like that was totally normal, like movie, tv plot.
Wilson:Yeah, set up I feel like it helped, like give them ideas for the movie to bring people back. Yeah, the the funeral lines up with, uh, you know like the goth aesthetic, and also I mean, would it really have changed if he was in the movie? No, like, what value did the character add or would have added?
Captain:I mean they would have to change the whole thing probably. I mean I also really liked Catherine O'Hara's character. I don't liked Catherine O'Hara's character. I don't know how much spoiler alert. We should probably I mean, we probably should have said that five minutes ago. But Catherine O'Hara, towards the end, where we find out that she's dead and they're like well, you're, what is it? You know, ortega says well, your art will go up in praise. She goes, oh okay, like that was all she needed.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:She was like you know what? Yeah, I don't know. That also is really funny. I love her so much. She's such a fun.
Wilson:I definitely heard some like Moira screams in that movie. It's like that's all I can hear, and they play their adjacent characters. Oh, 100%, not the same, but like sisters.
Captain:Cousins, yeah, they're similar but she's great Slightly. Mostly unrelated. But speaking of Schitt's Creek, are you watching Only Murders in the building at all?
Wilson:because then there's a new season, we usually, we usually wait till they're like it's all out so I haven't. We haven't started the new season yet oh, but I did hear that uh his dad uh eugene levy.
Captain:Yeah, eugene levy's in it, yeah, it's good. I I also really like that show, but um, we, we, we gotta watch them like week to week. You don't really like, you don't like lose plot if you watch them week to week. But to each their own, yeah, I mean some shows.
Wilson:We've done it. We just haven't done it in a while, but we're way behind on TV shows. I don't have to tell you Wow, shocker. Shocker. We haven't seen House of the Dragon yet. We haven't seen the new season of the Bear Handmaid's Tale. That is just a lost cause.
Captain:Oh, that's still on your list. I'm surprised.
Wilson:Do you know there's a new season coming out. I thought the show was done.
Captain:I will sayson I can't. I kind of towards the end of that show I couldn't watch it anymore because I don't know they're getting too far into weirdness and the show is always so dark like like emotionally, it's like hard to watch sometimes.
Wilson:Um so, oh yeah, it's not. It's not good feels and I feel like part of the reason we might have like subconsciously not picked it back up is like the last four years have been felt like too close to that show and it's not, it's not fun to watch.
Captain:Yeah, no, I feel you, it is uh, yeah, it's uh, it's uh too, it feels yeah, it's too, it feels yeah A little too real.
Wilson:It's not an escape like other shows, but yeah, yeah.
Captain:I think that's mostly what we oh, I don't know if you were, if you ever watched like those shows on Netflix that are like Korean dramas or thrillers, but I don't know. Netflix suggests those for us and those we've been watching a couple of those, I don't know like the frog and the glory, great shows, great shows that I well, I don't even like watch much netflix anymore, but uh, yeah, I'll try, I'll try.
Wilson:I'll try to check it out, or at least I'll add it to the very long list of shows I need to watch okay, okay, I uh, I think that's all I really have, though beetlejuice beetlejuice highly recommend.
Captain:That's really really what I got yes I don't know if there's any other movies I was gonna see soon I know there's a couple I want to see.
Wilson:I haven't gotten around to yet but like I want to see speak no evil, even though I think I basically know the whole plot um trap.
Captain:I didn't do super well, but I still want to see it yeah, I want to see it, but I was like maybe a podcast movie because the reviews are so bad. The reviews are so bad. Um, yeah, but I'm looking at at amc, yeah, oh, we saw, yeah, alien, deadpool, beetlejuice, twisters I think we already talked about all of these, yeah, yeah, haven't seen Twisters yet. Oh, this movie also has terrible reviews. But have you seen that? Like Afraid, but it's like AI.
Wilson:Yes, I forget what it's about, but I remember the name. I think it's Like I mean it's AI, but remember the name.
Captain:I think it's, I mean it's AI but like I think it's like a family robot, like a digital family assistant comes in but it's like a horror.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:It's giving Megan.
Wilson:Yep, yep. Now I see, yeah, it's like an evil Alexa, because, like what, you don't see, you don't really see a person. It's more like More like they're talking to the little. Oh, I thought it was actually like an object.
Captain:Well, like a little ball-shaped object, but I don't Okay, I thought it was a little bit more than that, but I didn't look that hard into it. I'm just looking at Google Images, so I was thinking have you watched that Sunny show on Apple TV with Rashida Jones?
Wilson:No.
Captain:I was thinking it was going to be something kind of like that, because that has family assistant robots in it.
Wilson:That show's kind of fun.
Captain:But I didn't necessarily really like the ending.
Wilson:I did not hear about this.
Captain:Oh, it was advertised to us because we were watching something else on Apple, but I can't remember what that was. Oh, we watched Bad Monkey with Vince Vaughn. We haven't finished it, it's still airing. I didn't know about that either do you only watch Apple TV severance? Is that the only thing you watch on there?
Wilson:Well, no, just like and we even use an Apple TV, but I haven't seen ads for these shows.
Captain:What I'm such a Vince Van Vaughn, vince, wait what?
Wilson:Vince Van Vaughn.
Captain:Vince Van Vaughn.
Wilson:Vaughn fan.
Captain:Vince Vaughn fan. Vince Vaughn fan, so it's so nice to see him back doing a streaming show.
Wilson:Oh yeah, he did disappear for a while.
Captain:Yeah, I think he actively stated that he was done acting, but I guess he decided that he wanted to come back. I actually do really like that show, but there's only a couple episodes out so far, but I would also recommend what did you watch um palm royale? Another apple no, that's one of the ones I didn't get into because I don't really.
Wilson:When I watch the trailer, nothing really grabs me besides like just that it is kristen wick but I had to watch it, of course, just because she's in it, but I did like it.
Captain:Is it kind of like Lute or not really?
Wilson:It's not as funny. It's a comedy-drama, whereas I'd say Lute is just mostly a comedy.
Captain:Comedy. I mean, it is a drama-ish, but like. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Last time I was doing my second job, where I have TV to watch that I have to watch by myself. Somebody got me, somebody told me if you really want to watch some trash like legit, you just want to watch some trash like legit. You just want to watch terrible trash. You have to watch Love Island because it's like oh my gosh. Okay, I turned that on. Have you ever watched it?
Captain:I watched most of a season but then I saw there were like 50 episodes and I was like I think it's like Big Brother, where America is actively watching it and then like voting on how the show goes. Basically.
Wilson:Okay.
Captain:Yeah, they were not lying. That show is legit, like the worst trash I think I've ever seen on TV and they take it so seriously. Usually when it's like really trashy, you can kind of tell that like a lot of these people don't do not take this like seriously and like you can see it through the camera. These people are like legit, crying on the show and I'm like what is happening here? What?
Wilson:is happening, so you say it's trash but you do like watching it I mean it's on in the background when I need to do something.
Captain:But I would like to have a show going on, but I don't need to focus that hard and there's also a lot of filler in that show where it's like we're going to I don't know explain a game. I will say I'm fast forwarding, like through the every. There's probably a good like seven or eight minutes every episode. This chess filler that I'm just like fast forwarding through because I don't want to deal with it. But um, but it is it. It is like extreme trash, like it's crazy. I don't think I could watch more than I. I've watched like half a season, maybe, Not even, Not even Like a third of a season. I don't think I would ever watch that show actively. Yeah.
Wilson:Yeah, I don't think I'll pick it back up. I mean, what I watched was good, but I don't know If I'm paying full attention. I'd need to put my mind to something a little more engaging or not trash so you, you liked it I mean it was, it was good trash tv entertaining yeah but that's mostly what I've been kind of on.
Captain:Yeah, yeah instead of evil. I'm gonna have to add it to the list.
Wilson:The list.
Captain:Okay, are you ready? Pop in here.
Wilson:Pop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Welcome to the 158th episode of the Red Rum Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two.
Captain:And I'm Captain.
Wilson:And I'm Wilson run podcast where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two. And I'm captain and I'm wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 20 nope, did it again. The 2009 horror mystery the uninvited. I was so excited to watch this movie this is a childhood favorite uh, yeah, or like you know high school, yeah, yeah, yeah I'm surprised you haven't seen it, because I had it in that stack of dvds in college I do not remember this movie so I don't think I have.
Captain:I probably looked at the cover and was like pass I mean I'm pretty sure the movie covers like the all blued out 2009 vibe yeah, it's, it's the movie isn't, though, which is nice no, but like it sounds.
Wilson:It sounds like a 2006 blue movie, like um anyway. So, uh, this was directed by charles guard and thomas guard, often referred to um as the guard brothers. I've never heard. I mean, maybe they've done other things. I guess we'll find out.
Captain:But I'm just, I just really want to give them some props for that really, uh, groundbreaking name. They go by um collapse maybe other people call them that to that really punny interesting. The Guard Brothers.
Wilson:Damn. Oh they're British, oh, they are Okay. Well, this is their most well-known movie.
Captain:But it's a remake. It is a remake.
Wilson:They didn't even do it. They did this one, but this is part of the hot goss. But this is a remake of a 2003 South Korean film.
Captain:A Tale of Two Sisters.
Wilson:That's a fun title. It is yeah, and that's also part of hot goss. I'll just say it now. That was the original name for this movie.
Captain:Oh. So they were like oh, this movie that did really well in South Korea, we're just going to do it again.
Wilson:I mean, I feel like that happens a lot.
Captain:Yeah, but they're like it's our directorial debut and it's like you didn't even do this movie, you're just redoing it.
Wilson:Well, I guess they stopped after that.
Captain:Well, maybe they did some other things, but it's. This is kind of their only notable movie.
Wilson:Oh well, that kind of makes sense I feel having like two directors seems like a bad idea I don't know billy eilish and her brother phineas. You know they pop off well, yeah, yeah, but like she does the singing, he does like the mixing, but like these are two people trying to direct a movie.
Captain:Do you think you and your brother could direct a movie together?
Wilson:I don't, it just sounds messy, like you might disagree on like how a film or like how a scene should be shot, and then like, oh, like oh yeah, I don't think I could styles, I don't think I could direct a movie with a single other person no so I get what you're saying, but well, I don't know.
Captain:I feel like my me and my siblings we've never really been interested in like a career path, that with any similarity.
Wilson:So so it's not a concern right now.
Captain:Well, I'm just saying I don't know how. I don't think I even have experience of like problem-solving professionally with any of them in any way.
Wilson:I don't know. Just shoot a message to Commander and I'll be like Captain's actually going to start directing.
Captain:Get ready for scream 10. Yeah, it could be a sibling duo. Oh my god, we would, that would be terrible. Um, okay, so it says that they don't really really haven't done anything. Is what you're saying?
Wilson:Besides this movie yes, I haven't looked very far into it, though Look at AI giving us what their vibe is.
Captain:They like tension, they like suspense.
Wilson:So I want to know if, like was that stated somewhere or they just looked at this movie they're most well-known for. This movie has tension, this has suspense. Probably this is what they're known for no, no that's.
Captain:I mean, I'm not an ai guru, but, um, I'm pretty sure that's probably. They were like oh, this one, maybe that they're known for. What does it have in it? So? Yeah, um when you look up the guard brothers, only Charles is the one that comes up.
Wilson:That's uncomfortable.
Captain:I mean, he's probably the older brother.
Wilson:That feels unfair.
Captain:Oh, they did something else called Deadshot in 2023.
Wilson:Was it good?
Captain:It looks like it has people in it that I might know.
Wilson:Maybe I don't know any of these names? Wait, felicity jones. Yes, but she's listed last what she's?
Captain:john boyega, boy boyega, that's how you say that. Right, he's in here.
Wilson:What? I don't see him listed. I don't know.
Captain:Oh, he's on Goog. I'm on Goog right now.
Wilson:Googs. Googs it's for British accents oh yeah, I don't know.
Captain:I might be wrong, but it's not my fault anyway that was a deep dive on nothing.
Wilson:Um, all right, let's, uh, let's get in the cast. So, uh, we have emily browning. She plays the main character, anna ivers. Um, she's australian. Um, she'sucker Punch a series of unfortunate events. She played Violet, sleeping Beauty and American Gods. I don't think she really does much anymore.
Captain:Why does she look like? I've seen her somewhat recently.
Wilson:I saw her in Ghost Ship recently, but we didn't watch that together, so I don't know.
Captain:Is that the mirror version of Altitude?
Wilson:No Wait, we did watch something with her as a child.
Captain:Ew oh wait.
Wilson:Oh, she was requested to audition for Bella in Twilight, but she turned it down.
Captain:She looks like she would be.
Wilson:Oh, absolutely oh, we saw her in Darkness Falls.
Captain:Wait, the movie we just did two episodes ago.
Wilson:Yeah, she played the young version of.
Captain:That's that Tooth Fairy movie yeah. She played the baby in that.
Wilson:I don't know the baby, but the sister. The child, but like the sister, like the child version of his sister. Oops, Sorry, kitty.
Captain:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like in the first scene the first couple like that little.
Wilson:Yeah, before a dude was attacked. She was also in Magic Magic.
Captain:Oh we, okay. What squelch is that? I don't know One, I'm going to say 120. Oh, I was going to say 132. I don't know, I don't know, I might be really wrong. Are you looking?
Wilson:So I am looking. Wait, what did you say?
Captain:132.
Wilson:It was 132. Wait, did we move it um? I don't know. I don't know because the I see two different numbers, so I don't know it was either 132 or 133, but anyway you won, so congrats. Eh, eh, I was so excited.
Captain:Okay Well, I'll have to talk about it next week. But that leads into my other intro combo.
Wilson:Okay, we also have Arielle Kebbell, who played Alex Ivers. Her sister, susan John Tucker, must Die. Vampire Diaries, ballers, fifty Shades, fre Freed I think that's the third, I don't know, but the title is.
Captain:The title is a lot. Are you freed by bondage?
Wilson:I don't understand oh yeah, I don't know, I didn't watch those or read them. Then we have Elizabeth Banks. She plays Rachel Summers.
Captain:She's in Hunger Games. This was her first one, wasn't it?
Wilson:First what.
Captain:I saw this was her first one.
Wilson:I thought this was her first movie.
Captain:I thought in the Hot Goose. I thought this was one of her first ones.
Wilson:No, I didn't read the Hot Goose. Oh, oh, oh.
Captain:Oh, oh yeah, this is her first significant role. Sorry, I'm cheating, cheat that way, sorry, okay um I really like her. Um it's not in here, but um wait hold on there.
Wilson:I think there's confusion. She was in a movie called uninvited in 1999, but that is different from this movie, the uninvited ai lied to us ai in ai's defense. That is confusing, given that she was in a movie that was very, very similarly titled I will say if this movie was really filmed in 2009.
Captain:I don't does she age, she looks exactly the same. Even her hair, I feel like, is exactly the same I'm gonna.
Wilson:I was thinking while watching this. I was like so I saw this. What? 15 years ago? At the time I remember thinking she looked kind of old. Now I'm like she looks kind of like my age she looks yeah, I think she looks good. She's killing it oh yeah, it's just it, that weird shift where, like as a kid, she's an adult and I'm like, I'm that age she's an adult and I'm not, and now I am.
Captain:It's not in here, but she does those, she now does those producing, she produces and she did the bear cocaine bear more recently which I love. I hope she does more movies like that she did another one, but I can't remember what that one. I think that was the one.
Wilson:Thanks, killing or something that sounds right I think I remember seeing her name recently and not knowing or, you know, being surprised okay, what else we got? All right, we got, uh, david strathern who plays steven ivers, the dad. Um, he was in good night and good luck. The born ultimatum lincoln, uh and nomadland. So he looked familiar but I didn't.
Captain:I didn't know his name he doesn't look familiar to me did you see any of those movies? Um, you know, I always mix up lincoln with lincoln the vampire slayer uh, because I saw that one. I haven't seen either, but oh, I don't think I I think I think that's the only one I've seen when he kills vampires. So I think I've seen the Bourne Ultimata, but boy howdy, I don't think I've seen it since it was new.
Wilson:Fair enough. Is he the guy that's like? It's Jason Bourne Like? Is he that guy?
Captain:I could not tell you, could not tell you, not tell you.
Wilson:I have no idea, I'm gonna have to look that up, but um, I think that might have been him I really hope, so that's like super meme worthy it might already be I found the clip I honestly.
Captain:I know we just watched this movie for 90 minutes, but if I saw that man again in a clip from something else, I don't think I would recognize him so it wouldn't be one of those things that just like eats at you like why do I know him? No, I still have a few of those that eat at me like to this day that all I think the whole thing will ever be solved. But, um, yeah, fine, like specifically. Okay, stop begging. I'll tell you.
Captain:Um the in the x files tv show yeah they have this a couple of times where they show an old photo of molder when he's a child and it's a kid version and I swear to god that kid looks just like jason bateman. But I don't think it's jason bateman. I don't think the timeline like, I don't think the time wise like matches up quite correctly, but it looks like a kid version of jason bateman so hard. And I don't I.
Wilson:And it's not credited anywhere because you'd have to show me A photograph. I'll show you. You have this ready to go.
Captain:I think I have a picture still on my phone somewhere. I don't even know how I would find it, but I think there is a photo on here. But anyway, I don't even know if I could find this, to be honest, but if I find it I'll let you know. Okay Is it him from the Bourne or no.
Wilson:It is him from the Bourne.
Captain:Wow.
Wilson:He's the one that says it. You were spot on, spot on. And then, finally, we have Maya Massar, who played the mom. She was in the.
Captain:Haunting of Molly Hartley, red Riding Hood and the Uninvited. Wow, who would have?
Wilson:known. Okay, Okay. So that's the cast I think we should. Let's talk about the movie Okay. Okay, so I'm going to try going by these sections or themes that whatever AI gave me when I looked up the synopsis okay I mean, I think it'll guide what I'm saying. We'll see, um, but anyway. So the film basically opens with um, anna, uh, so it actually kind of skips this here, but it opens with her leave. She's like making out with a guy, uh, like a campfire party.
Captain:Um, he wants to have sex and she basically just leaves, she runs home and I think I was getting another drink at this part, so yeah, he yeah, the guy like annoys her because he's like, oh, I love you and you, and then he's like dot dot, dot and I have a condom, basically being like, does that do it for you? But yeah, she runs into the woods. She runs, she like runs away from it into the woods and finds these bags with body parts but then, like it, kind of like streams into.
Captain:It's actually just her telling a story of a vision Of these visions that she gets to her therapist, yes, psych ward, um, where, like she sees these body parts in a bag, one of them's a ginger girl that talks to her. I don't know what that girl said. Um, it sounded like get, get on up, or something, but I don't think that's what she said. And then, uh, uh, the, the house blow up and the ring, the bell ringing, which drove me fucking nuts during the cv.
Wilson:That bell, yes so we see like flashes and like we see her then in a mental institution. We find out she's like we're kind of seeing what happened to get her in there. But, um, she's been in there for like nine months, she's finally being released and basically we get the idea that talk about she wasn't.
Captain:She had a suicide attempt.
Wilson:Oh yes, she had, like uh, healed scars on her wrist yeah um, and it's kind of surmised that there was an accident, her mom died and she basically became suicidal and was put in this institution yeah um so her therapist thinks that she's healthy enough to leave, though, which is why she goes yes, um.
Wilson:So then her dad picks her up, brings her home. We find out that the dad is seeing someone named Rachel, Elizabeth Banks' character, and already the girl Anna is like not really. Like you can tell she doesn't like the idea of her dad with this other woman.
Captain:Yeah, but she knows the other woman because it's her mom's fucking nurse. When her mom was was like in hospice care basically yes which is like such a bad look, like that's the thing where it's like they always I don't know the thing they mention, I think that happens all the time where it's like this nurse is taking care of our family and taking care of, like, my ill wife and then then I'm just Now I'm going to start dating her now that my wife's dead.
Wilson:Yes, so that's basically what happened. Alex comes home and then, like the next portion of the movie, is her like adjusting to being home. So for one, she's clearly not getting along with Rachel.
Captain:Does not like her, anna we meet, and when Anna comes home, we we meet alex her sister.
Captain:So, alex, you know, was like you know, you left me having to deal with, uh, dad and this girl getting really close, um, and while you had to go, like, figure out your inner demons at a psych ward. That's kind of the way she says it. It's a little weird. And then she's like why didn't you write me back? Why didn't you send me any letter responses? And she was like I didn't get them. And you see Alex yelling at her dad for not sending the letters, but he doesn't really have a reaction to that. Yes, dun dun, dun, dun, dun dun doesn't really have a reaction to that.
Wilson:Yes, um. And then one of these scenes uh, or yeah, she's out on the dock and, um, this guy, like other teenage man, pulls up in a boat delivering groceries. Um, and you can tell they kind of like he's the one from the beginning that you know she was talking about the very beginning that wanted to have sex with her.
Wilson:Yeah, Um, and he was like oh you know, I'm glad to see her back and you know, by the way, like I saw what happened that night, Um, and, and before he could say more, I think Alex came down, or did Rachel come down?
Captain:Yeah, Rachel basically breaks it up before they can have a full conversation.
Wilson:Right. So he's like oh, let's chat tonight at 11 by some rock, or let's catch up later.
Captain:Yes, and before they do that, though, I think you get Anna like vision of her googly, bubbly mom screaming murderer. Yes, I think that happens, like earlier in that night or something.
Wilson:Yeah, so basically her mom, while she was sick, was staying in the boathouse. And, like Anna visits the boathouse and she sees this vision and I will say, throughout this movie, anna sees these like visions of these, like fucked up bodies or like these three dead children, looking children, yeah, oh yeah.
Captain:Or like, um, yeah, I don't know, fire, I don't know, but I was going to say oh, she's giving the trope of like unreliable narrator Because she's not mentally there, like I even was telling you that halfway through the movie I was like I think I know how this movie is going Because this girl is not normal. Yes, there's this girl is not normal, yes, but you're still like you're.
Wilson:You're still kind of on her side. Yeah, yeah, like it's.
Captain:She's not like the bad character at this point, just like, like you said, unreliable so anna, after anna says, thinks that her mom is trying to tell her that Alex is a or sorry, that Rachel is a murderer. Her and Alex go digging through her shit to try to see something.
Wilson:All they do is be nasty, they see something.
Captain:All they do is be nasty and like, manhandle her dildo and take the batteries out of it yeah, her lingerie and her dildo. Bro, if I see you touching somebody else's sex toys, like get the fuck out of here. Bro, get the fuck out of here. And they go through the point of like unscrewing it and taking the batteries out, like literally take your hands off of that and cut your fingers off you've already touched it too much like the whole thing and then you put it back in the drawer and like she's not gonna know that you fucking put your nasty hand germs all over.
Captain:The whole thing is. I hate it, the whole thing, hate every part of it.
Wilson:Disgusting that was if I had a pour one out, moment.
Captain:It was that one for sure.
Wilson:So not a razor glass, that was a pour one out.
Captain:That's a pour.
Wilson:one out for sure, do not manhandle somebody else's sex toys so obviously, uh, anna is very suspicious of rachel at this point. She thinks she's starting to think that, um, rachel killed her mom and she, um, she starts to get evidence in her mind that this happened and also, um, well, okay. So before I say the next part, the other thing we need to talk about is she went to the like shopping with rachel, and it was shopping with rachel, um, and during that time she runs into matt and she brings up like, oh, what did you see that night? And he's like well, I can't talk right now. Okay, this is when he said let's meet on some rock at 11 so they, yeah, so they, he doesn't show.
Captain:So anna's worried about him and then later that night he sneaks into his her window and he's being really weird. He's like, um, I'm cold and I am numb and he's like blue and I was like, boy, is you dead? That was my. I was like he's definitely dead. And then his back's all crackly, um, and I think he does. What does he say to anna?
Wilson:like I saw everything, or something yes, um, but then he gets like all crackly backly. And what's that? What's the other word we, we were saying whenever.
Captain:Rice crispy pop.
Wilson:Yes, rice crispy.
Captain:Oh yeah.
Wilson:He's all over the floor, rice crispying, spine cracking, and she runs out of the room and then it's suddenly daylight and she opens it back up and he's not there.
Captain:Yes, unreliable narrator. But very quickly you see that he is dead in the wall and cops are pulling his body out. And then anna thinks, oh shit, like rachel's definitely killing people and tries to tell her dad that it's rachel's fault, um, and he doesn't really believe her. But then they're like anna and alex are like, okay, well, fuck, we need to do more digging.
Wilson:And rachel and I think that's when they do all those phone calls and find out her name switch yes, and they also find out that there was like, um, like, recently there was a family where the mom died in a car accident and they had like a live-in nurse or something that had three kids, and they were the three kids that she had been having visions of yeah, so like obviously that's rachel yeah she, she gets it from both sides.
Captain:So they do digging and find out that rachel's not her real name and there's no history of a rachel summers as a nurse, in whatever state they're in. But then they go to matt's funeral and anna has visions of those little dead kids and then sees what grade their grave they're leading her to. And it's that right family where there's, like this nurse that was like romantically obsessed with the father after the wife supposedly died in a car accident and then like anesthetized all the kids and then stabbed them or something.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:They really are into the the drugs in this movie and they do find a pack of that of like some type of I don't know tranquilizer anesthesia in rachel's stuff, because she was she's like a hospice nurse, so there's probably like fucking morphine and shit in there. Now can you just leave it in a zipped bag in your bathroom no, but I guess the DEA was not consulted.
Wilson:We good, guys, we good.
Captain:So yeah. So then it's like that Mildred Kemp character that they assume that that's Rachel, basically.
Wilson:Yeah, so there's a point where uh rachel's hosting a party at their house for the book release uh of the dad um, and like anna and rachel are not getting along.
Captain:That was for a book release.
Wilson:I yeah, I totally missed that oh, I think that yeah, it was just his book release party. Um, so like anna and rachel are not getting along at this point. But the dad's, like can you please help rachel out? So she like goes in the kitchen, rachel's preparing this nice dinner, the nice roast a roast beef.
Captain:What's? That um, sorry, in the Grinch, the like, the holiday, your face, the holiday meat. What is that? The roast beast? I think the roast beast?
Wilson:I honestly have no idea.
Captain:Anyway, it's like a big, like a chungus.
Wilson:Well, it better be for that giant party that they're hosting. It was like like legit two other people well, they made it look like there was a lot more. I don't think there was like anybody but she had a lot of champagne glasses on that tray though she did have a lot of champagne glasses we don't actually see any of the guests?
Captain:yeah, she's just down yeah, um.
Wilson:So she's like yeah, you can help me out, take the trash out. Rachel leaves the kitchen. Um, anna tries to take the trash out. She sees the like ghoulies in the kitchen. She like freaks out, hits the table where the roast is on. Roast falls off. Rachel comes in screaming. You know you're trying to ruin me.
Captain:And they like send the guests home and apologize for like okay, I so again, this is all from anna's perspective, so like I don't know how real all of this is, but, from anna's perspective. I mean, rachel comes in the kitchen, goes are you trying to ruin me, like? And is is like at her with a fucking steak fork? Um, but I don't think that's really what was happening. I'm being so for real with shot.
Wilson:I don't think I think all these things happen, but not I. I don't think the facial expressions or the intonations on rachel's face are true perspective wise girls delulu like these are.
Captain:This is not what's reality for sure, and I think all of these little scenes that we get with Rachel are not real Like there's dozens in this movie.
Wilson:I think they're real, they're just. It's not the same. No, it's skewed, yeah, yeah.
Captain:Yeah, perspective Vastly different, Okay, yeah yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, um, so I think that's between the digging to find the, that it's not her real name and the funeral is like that that night. It's between the two. So also the dad doesn't, the dad's not home because he goes booking, uh business new york yeah, some urgent book thing. Guys, I have to go book in New York.
Wilson:Yes, I have to book.
Captain:That's basically what he said yes, I'm booking Book book.
Wilson:Book.
Captain:So that's gone, which all hell breaks loose. Alex gives you tonight's the night, gives you a little Dexter line.
Captain:Oh yeah, Alex is like we need to find out tonight, like we're gonna end this thing with yeah, rachel, so anna's like I'm gonna grab her keys so she can't leave the house so they wanted to get the the pearl necklace, I guess, to prove that they belong to the last family that rachel supposedly killed oh yes, to prove that she's this crazy nurse mildred kemp, um, and because they can see that these pearls are the same pearls that the last girl had in their perspective, um, so there's like an attack that happens with the needle well, yeah, so first, alex is like you, you go to the police station, I'll stay and distract her or something.
Wilson:So anna drives the police station, tells the sheriff anything or, sorry, everything, and he looks a little confused but he's like, okay, just stay here, we'll get it figured out.
Captain:Before that she finds alex on the floor and says alex tells her to go anyway. And there was that like little scene where um anna is like almost stuck with a needle via rachel oh, and she like beats her in the head with a perfume bottle to get away from her yes, yes, there's some actual fighting here yes, there's an actual fighting now in anna's perspective. This is purely to stop her from telling the truth, but I'm sure there was a manic episode happening.
Wilson:Yeah, like almost positive. Oh yeah. So Anna gets to the police station, tells the sheriff everything. He looks like sort of confused but he's like, okay, just wait here.
Captain:And then Anna falls, falls asleep, and she wakes up to rachel over her in the police station sedating her yes, yes and then and then wakes up back in her bed with rachel, uh like getting her ready for bed and putting her pjs on now again very ominous from anna's perspective, where she's like um you ruined my chances of ever having like a daughter because I can't have any. Like biological kids, um, and I was really hoping for more for this or something. Um, and like you, better not touch that steak knife and hurt yourself yes and um, so she moves that out of the way.
Wilson:And then I think anna's about to fall asleep, but in the background you see alex sneak in behind with a knife or something something um, and then everything goes, goes black. And then anna wakes up in her bed. Um, no one's in there, but she sees a trail of blood. Uh, that she follows outside to the dumpster. When she opens it, it's rachel's like dead, bloody body yeah, oodles of blood.
Captain:It was the blood in the house, for sure yes and of course, this you know uh, you see alex coming through with like bloody knife and bloody body herself. It's like I had to do it, you know we had to do it. And of course, this is the same time that their father arrives home from booking from book trip.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, so he was he's like anna, what did you do? And she's like, oh, you know, alex had to do. And she's like, oh, you know, Alex had to do it. And he's like Anna, what are you talking about? Alex died nine months ago. And then, like, this is where the movie you know, here's the twist Anna comes to realization that it's her there is like Alex is gone.
Captain:And they show all the previous scenes of alex's interactions with people and you realize it's like the sixth sense, like she's talking but they're not. They're not responding to her, but the way that it's shot doesn't necessarily seem like they would respond like they could, but it's not like it's required for it to move forward.
Captain:So I was picking up the fact that anna was like the killer, but I I was chatting with you I was like, oh, I'm a stupid bitch because I did not realize that alex was dead well, no, I mean, I remember I didn't think that either when I first watched it.
Wilson:And this time it was kind of fun like watching it and looking at the scenes where I know alex is dead and like, yeah, they don't. They do. They do a good job at making it not be awkward, but they never respond to her yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, if.
Captain:If you remember what it's like to watch six cents for the first time and realize that he's dead, like that, the um bruce willisis is dead. That's what it's giving Like. Very similarly, they do a great job of like it not being obvious, but I would say like I don't even know. 30 seconds before it's revealed I was like, oh, oh, she's dead, she's definitely dead.
Wilson:Yeah, yes, and I'm really glad you didn't pick up on that sooner, because I was like I don't want the movie to be that predictable.
Captain:The only thing I could tell it was like Anna's Anna's a crazy person.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, so, um, but what we, the extra thing we find out, is, while we're having these flashbacks, we see how the explosion happened. So, um, anna, we see how the explosion happened. So, um, anna, we see again, she was at that campfire with a guy hooking up. She wanted to leave. She comes home and she, like sees her dad having sex with rachel while their mom's still alive, and you know the boat.
Wilson:Yeah, she's like looking through um a keyhole, yeah yeah, so that like that just like breaks her brain, because after that she runs under the boathouse where they store all the gas for like boats and stuff and she fills up a bucket. Um, alex comes in, distracts her, so she, she turns off the the faucet for the gas, but not all the way, so it's dripping a little bit.
Captain:Um and she's got a fucking fire lantern, that they accidentally falls on the ground when when alex slams the door.
Wilson:Yes, so obviously you know what's gonna happen a trail of gas and a flame. But at the same time, anna's running back to the house because she basically she's. She has a water bucket full of gas and she's gonna like set her dad and rachel on fire. I can't with you calling it a water bucket full of gas and she's gonna like set her dad and rachel on fire.
Captain:I can't with you calling it a water bucket uh, uh, uh a watering can.
Wilson:Yes, a watering can, um, but while she's running up there, alex is like still on the boat.
Captain:Uh, boathouse dock while her mom rings the bell.
Wilson:So she's like coming, coming, yeah, um so alex walks back in to tend to their mother and the boathouse explodes. So it is all Anna's fault.
Captain:Now it wasn't you could argue it's the dad's fault.
Wilson:but I will say Anna was trying to kill people that night.
Captain:That's true. The two people that she killed were not the people she was trying to people that night. That's true, the two people that she killed were not the people she was trying to, but she was trying to kill people. So I would say she's a murderer, but technically her crime was manslaughter technically.
Wilson:I think I remember watching the first time and I had forgotten that she was in the process of trying to kill someone else when I was like she didn't mean to kill anyone and it's kind of her dad's fault because he was cheating. I forgot what she was trying to do.
Captain:Listen. If you want to blame Papa, do it. I'm fine with that.
Wilson:I mean, I don't think he's blameless, but I don't think he also deserved to have his wife and daughter and fiance blown up.
Captain:He did seem very clueless in this movie. Because you go from like I sent that to you, because you go from Anna and Rachel fighting to the very next scene seeing him asking Anna to help Rachel out in the kitchen, and I'm like, does he not realize how much they don't like each other? Like she's not going to want our fucking help and then all she does is ask her to take the garbage out.
Wilson:Oh, she does open the oven door too.
Captain:Oh Helping.
Wilson:Helping.
Captain:Yeah, and so you get the truth, like she was big mad that her dad was having an affair and then, yeah, killed her sister, um, and then killed all the other people, um. But I will say at this point, though I in my head I'm thinking what the fuck's with the mildred kemp? Because they brought that up and that didn't come back, um, but they luckily put that together in the last scene of her being re-institutionalized yeah.
Wilson:so we see, like we see how much she made up, because her you know, her uh, cell block mate is named mildred kemp the name that she thought was a rachel's original name and she has, like these pearls that she carries with her. And we find out that Rachel did change her name but it's because she had an abusive ex-boyfriend.
Captain:Oh yeah.
Wilson:But it wasn't Mildred Kemp, it was just Rachel, or something else.
Captain:Yeah. And then I will say the very final scene. Her therapist comes over and says hey, hey, dog, sup, sup. And he goes. Apparently before she left the hospital he was like you know, keep living life like kiss boys and go to I don't know fucking prom or whatever and finish what you started or something. And then she says to him, like when he asked how, how is everything? You know, how are you doing? She goes I did what you told me to, I finished what I started. So, like her plan was to kill these two or at least kill rachel um a year ago when she accidentally didn't, and she got the job done.
Captain:So she like is somewhat, I think now she's aware, like now that it was told to her um yeah, and now she's just pissed her to dad yeah, yep, but I do like that they didn't leave that door open, because I honestly was like, if they don't bring up mildred kemp again, I'm about to lose it like I was. I was, I was half expecting that to not be explained and be like oh so I hate you and everything you stand for I mean, but couldn't you have just written that off as the name she made up?
Captain:no, because they were so specific. There was a fucking news story. Now I guess the news story wasn't real because mildred Kemp's just like a girl in the hospital.
Wilson:Maybe, Now she did seem a little kooky, but yeah, yeah, I don't know, I don't think about that hard.
Captain:I mean, she made up most of it. But yeah, I will say just a couple of things from this movie. So we talked about the fact that, like I'm sure most of those scenes that have Rachel being ominous and mad are not really what they are. But I I was kind of like confused why they keep bringing up the right family, like I don't know. I I just feel like having those three dead victorian children pop up was like not really necessary and her literally falling into one of their graves was not necessary. I mean, I feel like you could have gotten that way with just her name not being her real name, but I don't know.
Wilson:I mean, I think my thought is that it just added extra diversion so it wasn't as easy to get to the real answer of the movie.
Captain:Yeah, it was a little much, but I mean, I see what you're saying. I think they just wanted more scary, spooky stuff to put in there besides, just like her mom.
Wilson:True, because it does add that like creep factor and I do kind of feel like if there wasn't the apparent evidence that she killed these three children, we wouldn't have a lot to go on to even make us think that maybe rachel's the bad person. I don't know um.
Captain:Also, why does their house, like their actual residential house, have like a full-size dumpster outside? You know, I didn't think about that, but that was also something that I was like who the fuck put this here? Maybe it's like a main thing I.
Wilson:That's what they do in Maine oh.
Captain:Maine the state.
Wilson:I think that's where they are.
Captain:And he went all the way to New York for book.
Wilson:Yeah, apparently so. It seemed like a couple hours, but I guess he was gone for longer than that.
Captain:He must have flown hours, but I guess he was gone for longer than that. He must have flown. Um, yeah, I I mean, yeah, that's mostly, mostly what I have. So what about other things? Other things from the movie? What do you?
Wilson:got well before I get in the hot goss, I'll share some box office some numbs some numbs. Uh, so the budget was 10 million.
Captain:Okay, worldwide it got 42.7 million so it's not a flop um but the ratings aren't good they are not good.
Wilson:So the the critics score rotten tomatoes is 32, the audience is 47, which isn't terrible, it's not great. It's not terrible either for horror uh, yeah, it's not yeah, the, uh, the letterboxd score um is 2.5 out of5 letterboxd the the ratings are pretty critical right in the middle right in the middle.
Wilson:Okay, so Hot Goss. So we already talked about how it was a Korean remake of A Tale of Two Sisters. The original was considered a modern classic. Okay, that takes care of the next Hot Goss. Like I said that I think earlier that was the original title a tale of two sisters, um. So, uh, emily browning, the anna was chosen for this role because the guard brothers um saw a series of unfortunate events, so oh, I never watched that movie, but I know people love the books and movies.
Wilson:Oh my gosh, the books are so good. They did a Netflix series a couple years ago.
Captain:I know I never watched it Anyway.
Wilson:Anyway, moving on, so shot in Canada, even though it takes place in Maine. I see the hot goss about her first. Oh wait, it's her first horror role. That's different.
Captain:Wait what it says. It says oh, who is known for her work in comedies, took on her first significant horror role.
Wilson:Reading's, hard Reading's hard.
Captain:It is hard, she's widely recognized for Hunger Games and directing Pitch Perfect 2.
Wilson:And Cocaine Bear. Yeah, so yeah, I guess. Apparently a lot of viewers originally confused this movie with a 1944 film of the same name, which is a ghost story, but no connection to this movie.
Captain:Yeah, I confused it with some 1999 film too yeah, um, this movie had a delayed release.
Wilson:It was supposed to come out, uh well, slated for 2007, it was pushed to 2009. Um, it says it was marketing and scheduling reasons. I do remember in the movie they say, like the guy died in 2008 and I was like usually movies don't do like a like a year back who died uh, matt or whatever. I think it was like died 2008, but in the movie like they referenced the year being 2008 and I thought that was odd because gotcha usually it's like current, with when the movie is released yes um, uh, uh, uh.
Wilson:The guy who did the score for this movie. Um, he's known for scores in hellraiser and the grudge I couldn't tell you a single how that sounds. Nope no, I mean, I don't know either um oh, my, my God, yes, the last one.
Captain:The twist.
Wilson:Oh yes, Do you want to do that one?
Captain:The twist of Alex being dead all along was a figment of Anna's imagination. It mirrors the psychological trope seen in other movies, such as the Sixth Sense and the Others.
Wilson:I think we did the Others right.
Captain:I couldn't tell you we did the Sixth Sense.
Wilson:Yes, Like.
Captain:I couldn't tell you we did the Sixth Sense. Yes, like early, like I think in the top in the first, like 50, maybe in the first 50 probably it looks like we did do the others. I always mix it up with that movie, with that girl's death.
Wilson:What the movie where the main character Did we do. I always mix it up with that movie, with that girl's deaf.
Captain:What? The movie where the main character, the girl's deaf, and these intruders come to the house. We did that one. You don't remember what I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're talking about. Why do you look at me like I'm not even speaking English?
Wilson:Who was deaf?
Captain:The main character in a movie where there's like intruders and it's a horror movie. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my gosh.
Wilson:Bruh.
Captain:This movie is called Hush.
Wilson:Oh yes, With Katie Siegel.
Captain:It was a mike flanagan movie sure, yes, yes, you're right, but I don't know if we did the others uh, we did.
Wilson:It was episode 31 one holy crap.
Captain:What about the six cents? What episode is that? 50? I'm gonna say 50 that was 27 oh, we did those back to back out of back um, yeah, I think if I watched the six cents and like, only a few years later I saw this movie, I'd be like ew. So I can see why there's critics that are like that's not original damn well.
Wilson:I love the movie, mostly for nostalgia, but I also think it's good it wasn't bad. It was a little clunky okay, what would you give it then?
Captain:uh, I mean, we've seen so much worse. I, I don't know, this is not bad. This is like a 58 oh, that's actually, that's actually pretty good yeah, like it's not a bad movie and it did get me because I did not know a was dead and it's not like it doesn't make any sense, wilson. We've seen so many movies where they don't even make sense.
Wilson:Oh yeah.
Captain:So I don't know what about you. 58, is that? Am I crazy?
Wilson:I'm doing 67.
Captain:Okay, okay, yeah. Yeah, they're a little harsh, but I think it's for the time period, because they don't do a lot of these um dead all along movies like.
Wilson:I don't think as much right now yeah, I think it's like, unless it's a really unique idea, it's kind of. I think we're kind of burnt out on that like what didn't see that coming um okay, so what?
Captain:oh, I was just gonna say how do you feel about so? So I know I brought this up already, but, like in the movie, there's so many of these scenes where elizabeth banks is shitty but like and, and we agree that that's not really what reality is. But I will say, there's that scene where she says um, it's like early on in the movie where she's like she says something along the lines of like Alex is always Alex was like so bitchy, but you were like the nice little. I remember you being a cute, quiet kid, while your sister has always been a bitchy teenager to your dad and I was really hoping you moving back here works out. And I was really hoping you moving back here works out yeah, that's like the way she says it, where she's like I really hope you moving back here works out, but like, do you think she actually said that bitchy thing about Alex?
Wilson:Because I feel like that couldn't have possibly been said I think she probably made it up because it's like I feel like that'd be kind of a bad idea to make a joke about a dead sister and you just got out of a mental institution because of that.
Captain:Like everything else, I can kind of see it twisted, but that she literally uses the word bitchy, so yeah.
Wilson:I mean, maybe she said it, but I don't really think so um what, what's your?
Captain:uh? Do you have a razor glass?
Wilson:I do, and it's the scene I it sticks out my mind. It's like I remember when I first watched it I was like, oh my god, and it wasn't the big twist, it was well, I guess part of it. But just seeing that she was the one that killed matt, I don't know, like when I first saw this, just like blew me away yeah, you see her like eat him off a cliff yeah yeah, and she even plays up the.
Captain:He's like grabbed her to try to save his life. Um, so she has bruises on her arms and she like plays that into the fact that, like Matt, that she saw Matt alive that night, like that, that's her like evidence that he was alive that night and then it must have been Rachel that killed him. But it's like, girl, no, that's from when you? Killed him, it was you.
Wilson:I think I honestly saw this movie before I saw the sixth sense. So like this was, this was my life.
Captain:Oh, they were dead the whole time oh yeah, no, I definitely saw the sixth sense. Like I think around, I don't know, 2002 or something damn I was like young, but I was like old enough to like understand a twist. What's a twist?
Wilson:a twist. What's your razor glass?
Captain:Okay, I think mine's the big twist, Because only 30 seconds before I was like oh oh, oh, Alex is dead. Alex is dead. I did not put that together, so I think that got me. There were a couple jump scares in this movie, but I didn't jump at any of them. There was a couple of dead children like leaping at the camera, but they didn't really get me so I like that they weren't gimmicky, really like yeah, there weren't.
Captain:Yeah, like like behind a fridge door or something, yeah, nothing like that. But um, there also weren't a lot of like comedic lines. I'd like to pick up on the comedic lines and some of these that make me laugh, but none of these, like there was none of that that girl was not ready to laugh.
Wilson:These were dry.
Captain:Yeah, this was pretty dry so.
Wilson:So fuck that, Just kidding.
Captain:But yeah, I think it's the big tweet Tweet. But honestly I will say, when Anna said like I finished what I started, I did kind of be like oh, pop-off queen, like I finished what I started I did kind of be like, oh, pop-off queen, like get your bag.
Wilson:I mean, sir, you did it Slay, you did it. Mission accomplished.
Captain:Yeah, but yeah, they didn't. This movie didn't have like any other. There's like no other parts to this movie, right? No, no, is that didn't have like any other? There's like no other parts to this movie, right? No, no, is that? I think the other one we watched said it had a sequel, or?
Wilson:something. Oh, that's what you mean. I think it was the other one.
Captain:I feel like it's probably the other one speaking of the other which is from 1988, 1988, not to be confused with, like the seven other films, called night of the demons, because there's like one from the 40s and then there's one from the 2000s. We're doing the 1988 one. It's our Halloween film.
Wilson:Oh, that's exciting.
Captain:Do we do fun Halloween music.
Wilson:Yeah, we typically do. I know, I have one locked and loaded.
Captain:Perfect, because that's what we're about to do. So happy Halloween. Well, next week, happy Halloween. Do you have anything else? Or do you have anything else? Or do you have some words of wisdom?
Wilson:I do a really, really quick hot goss that I just read about this movie. Elizabeth Banks based her character off another character from another movie because she thought it was very important that every line that she read could be interpreted in two ways. So like.
Captain:So what's the? A normal way I don't know, you're gonna have to rewatch.
Wilson:Yes, okay. So, in terms of advice, what?
Captain:we should have probably said at the top that this movie is free on power plus for now for now for now.
Wilson:Uh, am I giving advice?
Captain:Is that what you're saying? Yes, I need some based on this movie.
Wilson:Um, yeah, I don't know. Like, don't set your mistress on fire. I feel like that's where it started, because I, I think, while bad, I don't think it's fair to blame the dad on everything that happened after that uh, well, yeah, I mean, I think don't have an affair is probably good, don't?
Captain:play with gas don't, don't play with gasoline, probably probably don't have an affair. It is his fault. Fuck that dude. It's his fault.