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Night of the Demons
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The film discussion beings at 13:38.
Welcome to our Halloween episode!
Ever wondered what it takes to win a work conference scavenger hunt with nothing but quick thinking and a smartphone? In our newest episode, we dive into Halloween shenanigans and everyday escapades, starting with a laugh-out-loud recount of surprising vendors with resourcefulness that would make MacGyver proud. You’ll hear our thoughts on the much-anticipated "Salem's Lot" remake and how Hollywood loves to name-drop connections to "The Conjuring" and "It," while we ponder the perfect spooky pumpkin voice for our Halloween decor dreams.
Our horror movie spotlight shines brightly on the cult classic "Night of the Demons," a film that mixes the eerie with the hilarious, much like our own banter. We chat about the iconic scream queen Linnea Quigley and the intriguing pet psychic Amelia Kincaid, who bring a unique flair to this 80s gem. As nostalgia flows, so do the memories of Blockbuster nights and the debate over cuddly pets versus reptiles, setting the stage for our dive into more holiday-themed episodes.
Brace yourself for tales of cheesy puns, demonic antics, and survival tips you never thought you'd need, like why funeral homes aren't the best playgrounds. We wrap up with a look at urban legends, touching on the infamous razor blade in Halloween candy myth, and a nod to the sci-fi horror flick "Virus" with Jamie Lee Curtis. Whether you're here for the chuckles, the chills, or a little of both, this episode promises a spirited stroll through horror's quirkiest moments and mischief galore.
I sent you a trailer for what uh salem and it's on facebook um, the trailer for salem's lot, the movie coming out came out uh today and I just watched it lot salem's lot. It's a stephen king book, um, and they're making it into a movie. I think it was a movie at one point, but they're redoing it they're redoing it it looks good.
Captain:It's a vampire movie really like you're not just saying yeah, it does look good.
Wilson:It's like it said the conjuring people did conjuring and it are involved. Not, it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Captain:It could have been like the people that weren't good but like they do love to say, like from the creators of blah, blah, blah and it's or like from a pa that worked on X-Fill he got Stephen King soda and now he's directing.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:Oh my gosh, Wait, okay, well, okay, I'm back.
Wilson:Hello, okay, I'm excited. What do you have?
Captain:Well, I'll let you know what.
Wilson:So you're going to bring something, but you're not going to talk about it right now. Correct, okay, okay, so you're gonna bring something where you're not gonna talk about it right now correct, okay, okay um, oh are you, are you?
Captain:I have my premieres. I'm still premiering still premiering.
Wilson:Uh, I think I'm done with a drink for now.
Captain:I do have some water, though have you ever heard of the drink hydro?
Wilson:hydro whoa, that sounds so good. I'm starting to gather a guess on what you did or what secret you have. But I'll wait and see.
Captain:Wow, you're going to ruin the surprise already.
Wilson:Nope, nope, nope.
Captain:I don't think you know what I have to be honest.
Wilson:We'll see, we'll see, we'll see, so okay. So you had something you wanted to. Okay, I went. You had a story, right I?
Captain:went. Yes, hello, introduction.
Wilson:I went to a.
Captain:Why don't we ever do that anymore? Greetings, lords and lordesses.
Wilson:Lords and lordesses.
Captain:Well, I think you know, you usually just jump right into a conversation and then when we welcome people in, I think that's like a oh, that's the welcoming, okay, so, oh, happy Halloween.
Wilson:Thank you.
Captain:Can you give me your like? Like, if you were a spooky pumpkin as decor, you had to say like happy halloween, what's what? What voice are you doing?
Wilson:okay, so I'm a.
Captain:I'm a jack-o-lantern, essentially this is your audition tape and I'm great and I'm a decoration yeah, I want to hear the voice that you would put in the bot, in the pumpkin, in the voice box um why'd you go so hard? I just wanted like happy halloween. Oh, that's boring oh, sorry, sorry, you're trying to. You're trying to be like this 7575 Halloween decoration. You're trying to be like the.
Wilson:Yeah, go hard.
Captain:Oh, I don't think I can do that. Yours sounded sick. I think you had a disease.
Wilson:Well, I did start to also actually laugh halfway through it.
Captain:I don't know. I think I would probably try to scream queen it, but I'm not going to do that into this mic.
Wilson:Oh, okay. So you're saying I went too hard, but you'd say you would do a blood-curdling scream.
Captain:If I was trying to be the expensive Halloween decoration then I would scream queen.
Wilson:I'm having the best time over here picturing you just suddenly screaming.
Captain:I think I could do it well, I think I could do it really good. I don't know if I've ever heard you scream queen it, but it, but I'm picturing it in my head like how it would sound in like my, my head voice, and it's like really good. So your imagination sounds really yeah it sounds perfect, like I would be scared to go to that house. You gotta, like, make sure you tell the cops ahead of time. Nobody's dying here.
Wilson:It's just a really good decoration based on your like your hallway decorations. I feel like your neighbors would like. If somebody walked by and heard you scream, they'd be like wow, she like really commits to the bit gosh, probably my.
Captain:I did go all out with those decors, but decoris good I. I was a little nervous. One of the streamers I brought I bought was like six dollars on amazon and had never been reviewed and I like never buy those things. I've never been reviewed. But I was like, well, it's six dollars and it looks exactly like what I'm looking for and it was perfect they did not lie, so game you got lucky game recognized game. You know what I'm saying, so I don't know what you're saying.
Wilson:I know Okay.
Captain:Back to my work conference. I went to a work conference.
Wilson:Okay, you went to booking.
Captain:Yes, we were books, so. But at the work conference they had a scavenger hunt and I did the scavenger hunt. And I did the scavenger hunt. You basically had to talk to the vendors and then like have them give you information. Now it was 40 multiple choice questions and half of them like a little bit more than half of them were googleable. So I just fucking googled it and I went up to one of the tables that was not googleable and I was like hey, you're like one of the last people I needed to like talk to for these answers.
Captain:Like each vendor had like three questions. So I was like I just need the answer to like this one question. They're like oh you, did you already come over here and get the answers to the other questions? I was like no, I just I just googled them and they were like what they were? Like you're the first person that has come over here and get the answers to the other questions. I was like no, I just I just googled them and they were like what? They were like you're the first person that has come over here and like google like told us that they googled it, like they were. They were like I would have never thought to google that. I was like am, am I in an alternate universe?
Captain:I mean one of the questions was like where is this, where is this company located? Like where is it founded, or whatever. I'm like why wouldn't I just google those? I don't want to talk to strangers unless I mean why wouldn't I just cheat? No, doesn't say you can't google it. I mean, I don't know they were. This table was blown away. They were like oh my god, you guys are so smart for googling it. I was like what the fuck?
Wilson:Anyway, Thank you for complimenting basic skills.
Captain:I was like are people really not Googling? Anyway, whatever, I turned my scavenger hunt in and there was a drawing at the end for winners.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:The drawing is at 3 pm in the afternoon. I was there late and I I was like I just walked up to the table on my way out and I was like hey, just like curious how the drawings go, not thinking anything of it, and they're like they're like, okay, well, these people haven't picked up their prizes yet.
Captain:For the random names you picked out of a hat and there's like this one that, like I don't know, won some stupid tote or whatever, and then like this one that won something, and they were like and Captain, and I was like Captain, like Captain, captain. And they were like, yeah, like Captain, first name, last name. I was like what, and I won Wilson. I won a Alexa show eight. Oh no, alexa's talking to me. She's a real Alexa. Hey, alexa, stop Okay. Oh no, alexa, damn me she's our real alexa.
Wilson:Hey, alexa, stop, okay, um, yeah, so I have an alexa house, which makes this perfect.
Captain:but yeah, I won this for free. For free because you cheated, because I cheated. No, they picked out of a hat, but anyway, um yo, I was like I was blown away. I made such a big deal about it. I was like I never went anything and this is like $115 online, that's a good price. Yeah, I was like, oh my gosh, like that's crazy. I was so excited.
Wilson:Yeah, it's not what I thought you got.
Captain:What'd you thought I got? What'd you think I got? What'd you thought?
Wilson:What'd got? You thought. What you thought I got.
Captain:Um, I thought because you were delaying answering that you got like a tiki mug and you're gonna like have your drink in the tiki mug when we talk about oh but we talked about the way I had such a more expensive prize but I was like so excited I was like I don't win stuff oh yeah, I don't want to survive.
Captain:That's really cool yeah, and then it's so funny I went to the conference for both days and they were doing the scavenger hunt on both days. I don't know what the prizes were for the second day, but when I came over there, when I checked in this morning, they were like oh, are you going to test your luck again? Because the scavenger hunt again I didn't win. If I, if I won two days in a row, I would have literally ran to a gas station and bought lottery tickets. But I only won the one day. But I was really excited that is still cool.
Captain:You won the one day I did some other stuff at the work conference but, um, I feel like it might give away.
Wilson:I mean, I don't know, I saw a falcon okay and I saw uh I feel are they like weirdly big in person or oh, this was the smallest falcon in america, so no, the smallest species okay, and then you're saying it's like advertisers.
Captain:It's the smallest falcon in the united states low foul um yeah no, and then I saw um a tortoise okay, was that also the smallest tortoise? No, I can't remember where that tortoise is from, but she was cool. And then I saw a ball python. How do you feel about snakes, by the way?
Wilson:I have no desire to ever feel like I need to be in the same room.
Captain:Really Like if somebody had a pet snake and they were like can you pet my snake? You wouldn't want to.
Wilson:No, I'm not a small child at a zoo, like I'm just kidding. No, I just like I'm fine being in the room with it. But I'm like if they're like pet it, I'm like why?
Captain:So you like wouldn't do it.
Wilson:No.
Captain:Because you're scared or you literally could not give a fuck.
Wilson:More so than I just have to wash my hands. They're not soft.
Captain:Well, what if somebody asked you to hold their pet snake for them while they had to do something?
Wilson:No, I mean, don't you have those snake carrying sticks, sticks like the little? Prongs that you just, can we just do that, like they must have that?
Captain:they're called snake hooks the snake forks most people don't really use those for their pet snakes. But I don't know. I've never really been scared of snakes. They're very fine.
Wilson:I just. There's nothing appealing about them to me yeah, they're cool, but I get I.
Captain:I don't know if I'd ever have a pet that was not like fluffy, that I could pet and squeeze and like be soft yeah, oh, yeah like some of my yeah yeah, if I can't like cuddle with it, I don't know I feel the same way, like it's fine and it was cool but to be around, but like if I was going to care for an animal, that it has to be a fluffy and like soft yes, I had a friend um in school that had a pet iguana but I was also like why he needed this huge cage a heat lamp and I know it just like scurries around or whatever, like sure you can play with it, but it mostly just sits there yeah, I, yeah.
Captain:I don't think I mean good for other people, but I don't think I'd ever do it myself, but it was cool to see out in the world the wild convention center exactly. Anyway, I just thought it was fun that I won something and I don't win anything that is really cool someone took a picture of me.
Captain:I'm like cheesing hard that I like won something and I don't win anything. That is really cool. Yeah, I actually I took a picture, or someone took a picture of me with my like I'm like cheesing hard that I like won and I like imposing with it. And they're like, oh, that's going on the conference website. I was like, oh okay, Thank you, but I was just very excited that I won something. So I was kind of like fine, whatever, oh yeah, was just very excited that I won something so I was kind of like fine, whatever.
Captain:Oh yeah, um yeah, that's, that's what I got, that's what you got. Spooky season uh, winning spooky season shit how a queen?
Wilson:uh, do we want to jump in here?
Captain:we gotta yeah, we're gonna jump in, all right. Oh, are we welcoming the lords and lordesses? Yes welcome, lords and lordesses, to the 159th episode of the red run podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult leverage or two, and I'm captain and I'm wilson and this week we're reviewing the 1988 horror comedy night of the demons um.
Captain:This was directed by kevin s teeny it's kevin uh, tiny um mostly known for this, but he also did some other like 80s, like b horrors um. Whatever witch board and witch trap are he's got, he's got to hop off the witch like some witches, yeah, he loves the witches, um, but they're like culty ouija board, supernatural horror movies, I think. Um. Um, yes, that's mostly what he's known. Oh, and practical effects, um, because he does those too. Um, I think that's mostly it for him. You want to jump into the? You want me to jump into the cast this?
Captain:this ai, it does not have all the cast in here, which makes you assume that all the other people in the cast haven't really done anything. Is that? Is that a good assumption?
Wilson:that that could be fair. And that's kind of all we, what we like, what we cover anyway. So this probably goes for this movie deeper in the when like than we would have probably, yeah, the.
Captain:The most known person is amelia kincaid, who plays angela franklin in this, and she's known mostly for this role. She reprises this role in sequels not only only one, but two sequels for this movie Night of the Demons, 2 and 3, 94 and 1997. Okay, I saw that this line is in here so I had to look it up. But outside of acting, she's known as an animal communicator and authored a book on the subject.
Captain:Now you might be asking yourself what the fuck is that yes so she's kind of like a kooky, calls herself like a pet psychic, so like she wrote a book that's titled the real life dr do a little, but when you ask when people have said like what she actually offers them, it's like you can go to a seminar. Someone said Kincaid had led a two-day seminar that had much to do about their owners, psychological issues with their dogs and cats sleeping the afternoon away. And then another in another seminar she said for 250 you can speak to any creature on the planet, dead or alive, as a kindred spirit okay, so sure so that's what a pet communicator is, anyway.
Wilson:When I skimmed that, I just thought it was like oh, she does pet.
Captain:Like Cesar Millan yeah.
Wilson:Well, no, just like animal advocacy, and I was like, oh, that's nice, no, no, no, no. No.
Captain:So yeah, she's the most known role. There's also Lena Quigley, lena Leanna.
Wilson:I'm going to guess Linnea.
Captain:Whoa, whoa. Okay, she plays Suzanne. She is a prominent screen queen from the 80s Screen Nope, Screen queen from the 80s, famous for her roles in horror movies. Some of her best known works include the Return of the Living Dead she played Trash. What does that mean? She played Trash.
Wilson:A punk character.
Captain:She played a dumpster night, deadly night. Did we do that, or is that on the list for the future?
Wilson:um, okay, I know I've seen it, but let me look really quick. Silent, not dead. Oops. Um, we have not done it. That was like one of those movies I remember seeing in Blockbuster. I was like what is that?
Captain:Is it on the list for the future holiday movie? Because I feel like, or I might just be thinking of.
Wilson:Doesn't look like it. We've talked about it before.
Captain:What was that last one? We did Silent.
Wilson:Santa's sleigh no.
Captain:The one with the guy from stranger things, that oh we didn't do that for the podcast, did we?
Wilson:yeah, it was last oh, it wasn't that silent, silent night, no deadly night right, that's, but it's not that it's called something else.
Captain:It's called something else slice night, uh damn it's david harbour, but um violent night. Violent night, that's what I'm thinking of. Um, anyway, quickly is a cult horror icon scream queen baby girl um, so then we have some other side or no.
Captain:Judy's also one of the main characters, so that's she's. It's kathy podwell played plays judy in this movie. Um, and she's also mostly known for this movie, but she did some other things like dallas and other roles in the 80s and 90s, but otherwise she hasn't really done much. So those are probably our three main characters. There are some other teenagers in this movie, but they only really talk about two here. Stooge, terrible character. Hate that guy.
Wilson:Oh, sorry, sorry. Played by Hal Harvitz.
Captain:I don't know why I can't do that right. Hal harvett havens. How havens plays stooge. He also was in some other 80s movies. Have you heard of any of these slime bolo rama? I mean, who's watching that? No um, and then sorry what?
Wilson:no, yeah, I haven't seen it. I haven't. I feel like I've heard of sorority. Was it sorority babes?
Captain:but I don't oh really have you oh my gosh and then um. Lastly, alvin alexis plays roger in this movie oh wait, that was a whole movie title.
Wilson:Sorry, what I thought that was two movies so sorority babes in the slime bowl.
Captain:Aroma is the title oh shit, I thought that was. I thought it was two movies too, but you're right oh, I have definitely have not heard of that movie that's your favorite one yeah, you're running out of room on that for the ass tattoos.
Captain:Yes, um, okay, um, roger is the character and he's alvin alexis's main role, but he did do that. Guy also did stuff in the equalizer and hunter, um, but yeah, like I said, there's some other like characters in the city, but they're not really talked about in here, so I'm assuming they've done nothing. Um, okay, so I. So this movie starts off with like a four minute long scene of credits, which I'm guessing oh my gosh, I wrote a note about this. I'm guessing that's like very 80s of them to have credits that long.
Wilson:But I will say the credits have like these cute little like skeleton demon pumpkin cutouts that fly across the screen and I kind of love them I mean it was fun, but what I was like I remember it went on really long yeah, I remember looking down and I got distracted on my phone and then I like after a while I was like this movie hasn't started yet it's like I, I like looked at the time, it's like four minutes in.
Captain:It's like was when the credits end, um, but I do like the little cutouts that they fly across the screen, um, but anyway, the movie starts off off with that um, a group of teenagers tormenting an old man I don't get why they're picking on this old guy so much like yeah, it's like three separate teenagers. Yeah, they're like different friend mooning him and throwing rats in his face, um, so, um, he he's, like you know, go to hell, um, and he also says I'm gonna get those kids or something.
Wilson:And he's laughing yeah, and he has an apple and a razor in his hand yeah, yeah, yeah, he does um so and then it cuts away from him.
Captain:Basically that's like his whole they're mean and he's like I'm gonna be mean back um, and then you, I think you meet judy, um, judy is, uh, like I don't know, a regular girl, a good, good girl. The group includes a good girl, judy Cassidy. So she's going to a party and getting ready to go to the party with her boy friend, jay. But I guess this other guy named Sal that's like a greaser likes her um, so he's like basically crashes the party to be with her. But can I just say the scene of her getting ready for this party where she's got like her yiddies out and why does her brother make multiple comments about her body I I wrote a note about this too.
Wilson:I was. I need him to not talk about his sister's boobs as much as he is.
Captain:More than zero is too many times, and he does it twice.
Wilson:Excessive.
Captain:He does it twice, but yeah, I will and I also. So the Sal character approaches the door trying to talk to Judy and the brother doesn't let him because they kind of are like shitty towards each other. But he also also that like greaser character is also very awkward, like it's like over overacted character.
Captain:um, yes I'm assuming he's maybe not a good actor, which is why he's not in the cast of details. Um, so, yeah, judy and jay go on this date. They basically decide they're going to go to a friend's party at an abandoned funeral parlor parlor known as whole house. This whole time I thought they were saying a hall house, a hole with a u? Um, and it's being thrown by this goth girl named angela um. The house is rumored to be cursed and haunted, located in a remote area that was the site of a gruesome murder and paranormal activity in the past. We don't hear about that until a little bit later. Um, but that's the way it's written here this is like the saddest party.
Wilson:I remember seeing.
Captain:There's like five people dancing in this dark room and there's like a bag of chips also, can I just say the sound mixing for this movie is terrible and like I get it that it's in the 80s. But um, the party. It makes the party even more sad because it sounds like they literally played the music like aloud to the video while they were filming and they're like that's good yeah, um, so while they're partying I wrote this down because I thought it was funny.
Wilson:But one person's like we should do a seance. And then somebody else is like no, we're not gonna do that. And then she says let's do a past live seance.
Captain:I'm like, okay, yeah, the party's really awkward because they um music and they like dance for like maybe 20 seconds and then the paranormal music like I think the paranormal activity like cuts the music off. So oh, and also you get like some character background, basically, like Roger's supposed to be like the scared guy, stooge is supposed to be like I don't know, I mean like a literal swine, I don't know he's like, he's like just a terrible asshole and he's a pig for halloween, like he has the mask on. Um suzanne is supposed to be a slut and she plays that character up. Um, I will say they like got, they like stole beer for this party at a convenience store towards the beginning and um suzanne is like literally the decoy and is like ass shaking while oh my gosh, we are up her skirt in this scene yes, yes, there is everything and at first you're watching this and you're like jesus christ 1980s, but then, like you realize, she's doing it on purpose so that they can steal beer.
Captain:And again I was kind of like, okay, papa, queen, like if that's the way you want to use your body, um, so yeah, but she's like the slut character, um, like that's she actively, like that's, that's the role. I'm not, I'm not judging her you're just describing, I'm just describing her.
Captain:Yes, um, yeah. So they do this like past lives, seance, likeance, like you said, after they dance for like literally 30 seconds. Oh, and all the guys I should say are like obsessed with Suzanne. They're like don't give a fuck, like Jay came here with Judy and like drops her almost immediately.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:So I don't really understand this past lives seance game is like we're all going to stare in a mirror until my reflection looks like something else. I'm like what kind of game is that? Right that's like what they said, right, so?
Wilson:I don't know, I just remember what happens after the scene well.
Captain:So there's like a scene of Angela like looking into a mirror and then the mirror like shatters and right before it shatters. Helen is the only one that sees that it's like a dragon.
Captain:It's like it's supposed to be a demon but it looks like a papier-mâché dragon is in the reflection, and so it like possesses Angela, like the, like the party host, like right after that, basically, um, so I don't know. Um, oh, very quickly, roger was like um, I don't play my father's a preacher, I don't play with um like demon shit. So and he, he takes helen with her outside the house, so like those two are gone, for they're like away and then we have everybody else in the house. Um, I do like that in this scene, like around the time that she's possessed, um, she defines the difference between a haunted house and a possessed house, because somebody asks her which I just, I don't know, I feel like I don't hear movies really discuss that but she says a haunted house is when there's spirits in the house because they died there or they like died on the property and they're like stuck there. A possessed house is like demon spirits that have never been human, that have never been alive, are in this area and they're like pure evil.
Captain:And I was like, oh, like I love that, I don't know oh yeah, I don't know if I've heard that description yeah, I haven't heard that either, but I was like, oh, I kind of love that um, and then she very quickly infects suzanne by like kissing her um again.
Wilson:Very forward for the 80s I thought these, like the next couple minutes, were pretty funny, because suzanne is obviously possessed saying these like wild things and nobody else at the party reacts, like they just keep going on with the conversations and she'll throw something wild into the conversation but I know that she was like I don't, I don't remember weird things.
Captain:She was saying besides, like how does she look? Was she saying other stuff?
Wilson:yeah, there was some like, just like slightly off-putting things she said. I don't remember what they were, but I wrote it down because I was like this is ridiculous and everyone's just ignoring it.
Captain:I know she like was like quickly, like I gotta go to the bathroom, which is like a weird I don't know after, after being possessed, um, and then jay and judy sneak off um, but jay, I mean, basically wants to like rape her. He doesn't, he wants to sleep with her, because he also assumed that she was slutty, because there's a rumor going around that shirley slept with sal, the guy that the greaser that wants to be with her, um, which she kind of like doesn't deny, but I think implies that it didn't happen and he's just being like shitty um, but that doesn't end well, because she gets locked in the room that they were in yeah and then jay jay is off um but then he finds suzanne in the bathroom um
Wilson:and I think at some point stooge also is like um yeah, they run off together, but then she locks him out of the bathroom and then he gets possessed yeah, but I there's like a but there's a bunch that happens.
Captain:I think Sal, or no, sorry, not Sal I think Jay goes to the bathroom and hangs out with Suzanne for a second, but Sal also goes to Angela and I think, or no, scrooge also goes to Angela and I think, gets his tongue bit off or something.
Wilson:That sounds right yeah.
Captain:Yes, you also have another couple in there, max, and I don't even know what the other girl's name is, and they're like fucking in a coffin. But like kind of the movie, like quickly, like once Suzanne and Angela are fully possessed and then Judy gets locked away. Basically all the other characters get either bitten, eyes, gouged out or smashed by the possessed Angela and Susie.
Wilson:Sorry, that coffin sex scene was so odd, because one they weren't really even even moving. And then the girl was also like I don't bend that way, but she's doing just like she's not, she's not like twisted around or anything.
Captain:Yeah, I don't know.
Wilson:I I I could not tell you um so she gets her head twisted, because is that suzanne who walks in? Somebody walks no.
Captain:So this is like after stooge, had his tongue bit off.
Wilson:He then becomes, he gets possessed and he comes through and smashes them in the coffin all right, she gets her head twisted and then the guy in the actually laying down in the coffin gets his arm smashed off and then I think he gets possessed. Or yeah, max, yeah, yeah.
Captain:I know there's a fuck ton of teenagers in here, I mean there's like eight or nine, but yeah, there's not a huge difference in like character development. But yeah, so I think around the same time, yeah, Jay tells Suzanne oh yeah, meet Suzanne in the bathroom. Suzanne like literally is drawing all over her face with lipstick, being like how do I look? Do I look okay? And he's like, yeah, you look great. Just anything to sleep with her.
Wilson:But right before that, doesn't she stick the lipstick in her boobs? Oh yeah, what the fuck was that?
Captain:That was such a weird scene. Oh yeah, what the fuck was that? What? That was such a weird scene. Like her they put like a, a gel body front on top of her and like she's topless, but like she takes a lipstick. Uh, like the whole container with the cap and like it like absorbs into her nipple. Yeah, I was like what it's so weird and random and it doesn't like come up later no, I think they just wanted to put boobs in it and make it like scary probably.
Captain:Yeah, I also, I meant to bring that up. Yeah, it's, I could not tell you what that scene is supposed to supposed to give. Um, no but she's drawing all over her face with lipstick and he's like you look great, sweet cheeks. And then yeah, he's just trying to get laid, yeah um, but like she keeps asking him, how do I look? And he keeps saying fine, and then she goes, stop looking at me and then she like gouges his eyes out she pops his eyes out but I think she like does.
Wilson:I thought she like shoved her thumbs in his eyes I think she did, but I remember like a, like a popping sound, or like juices flew out, or I don't know, yes, that is true.
Captain:Like oh, um. Yes, so jay is dead. Um max and girlfriend are dead. Um roger is outside with helen, but helen ends up being dead and like, um, he like couldn't find her, she like disappeared and he's sitting in the car and um, her dead body like flies and onto the windshield oh yeah so that's that too.
Captain:Um, and then, uh, I think roger does end up going back into the house to try to like find people. So it's him, sal and Judy, I think, that are left, that are normal. So those three are like who all the demons are attacking. And I will say, during this time we get great scream, queen moments from Judy, like she's really what's that word? Likeoking it up. What's that word? What's that word I'm looking for? Gooking it up she's like a like um goofing it up. What's that word?
Wilson:I don't know what you're going. She's like really theatrical.
Captain:She's like really giving scream queen.
Wilson:Okay.
Captain:I swear. This happens all the time. I listen to this later when I'm not drinking and I'm screaming at myself for the word I'm thinking of. So for future, me, sorry. Okay. So we're getting great scream queen ones for her, and it's funny because she's not actually the scream queen, is she?
Wilson:I mean, yeah, I can't keep track of this.
Captain:Suzanne is supposed to be like the iconic Scream Queen, oh.
Wilson:Amelia slash. Angela is the Scream Queen. No, no, no, no, no, she's in more right.
Captain:Leandra, leanna Quigley. Suzanne is supposed to be like the cult Scream Queen oh, you're right. You're right, yeah, but this is Judy, the girl that kind of gave up acting after the 90s. So she's giving in this movie, um, but there's like a scene of them kind of like roaming through the house trying to get away from all the demons. They end up on the roof, I think, for refuge, and um sal basically saves judy from being attacked and gets staked um by falling on a piece of fence wood yes, and I will say for this scene I wrote a note.
Wilson:I was like I'm so glad women in movies these days are not just like helpless scream, like they don't write them as helpless and screaming because this girl's just swinging on the roof, screaming constantly like you were not helping yourself. She's not even trying.
Captain:They're like giving her directions, like like, like shimmy over girl and she's just sitting there just sitting there screaming yeah, um, I will say, this isn't my razor glass, but like the demons, that's like a comedy horror, right. So like angela, I think, says something like to judy, she's like well, sal wanted to go, but he decided to stick around oh my god, I missed that there's a couple of those lines and I was like I'm not mad about it.
Captain:I'm not mad about it, but it is kind of like eye rolly, um. So I think what, towards the end, it's roger and a judy, um, that survive. They um what make it make their way over the fence, um, all the way outside of the funeral parlor. There's a scene of them downstairs in way outside of the funeral parlor. There's a scene of them downstairs in the basement of the funeral parlor and there's like a crematorium that I thought was gonna come up more oh yeah, he.
Wilson:He wanted to go in there because he thought it was a way out or she did and I was like that's clearly an incinerator yeah, like, like you're in a funeral parlor what the fuck else would it be?
Captain:um, but yeah, I, I, I don't really. I thought that was gonna come up more, because in the beginning of the movie they're like what's that weird sound that we hear? And it was coming from the incinerator, but then it didn't actually come up later, like besides them looking at it. Um, so, yeah, they, eventually they make their way over a fence. Um, oh, there's like a cool scene of judy does finally protect herself. Speaking of she makes like a flamethrower out of like a gas pipe to get away from them?
Captain:yeah, but then she can't turn it off yeah, well, you can only ask for so much, okay. Wow yeah, so yeah, they. Eventually they climb over this fence and get away. Roger has to help Judy over there. And then, once they get on the other side of the brick wall that the funeral parlor has, there's a lot of smoke and demon monster on the inside of the wall and then it smokes away, away.
Wilson:So we see that paper, that paper mache dragon again yeah, because I think they had said earlier in the movie that, um well one, they did do the seance to summon them, but halloween is the only night. They're like allowed to be on earth or something yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.
Captain:Yes, they said they have to just make it to dawn, to sunrise, and if they can make it till then, then the demons for this possessed house can't can't be out and about anymore, so they had to get off the property and then make it to sunrise. So yeah, um, I also would like to just take note that it's nice that a black character survives all the way to the end in an 80s. I was shocked.
Wilson:Yes, I like I thought he was gonna die, like earlier in the movie, like they were building it up that he was about to die and I was like, well, this tracks with, because he's like the scared the scared, like the scaredy cat character.
Captain:But yeah, no, he was like he. He did everything he needed to do. I was like yeah okay, roger um yeah, I was like really like, really surprised for an 80s movie, um, and also, like he's, he doesn't tip like, fall into all that. They don't write his character with like all like very stereotypical, like tropes, I guess, like I don't know, he's just like a dude, like yeah I don't know.
Captain:And even the other character that's like an asian girl, she doesn't have any like terrible, disgusting like tropes either, which I was like also kind of surprised about. She's just like a girl and happens to be asian. And I was like, because when those characters come on a screen in a movie from the 80s, I'm always like, like Something is going to happen here.
Captain:Something terrible that I don't want to see. But no, those didn't come up and I was very surprised. I don't know how this? I don't remember why this movie made it to the list, but that might have come up Like, hey, it doesn't, it's not terrible, I don't know. Okay, um. So anyway, after they get away and they make it till dawn, they're like walk of shaming back to their houses and the old man sees them again and it still is like mad about it. He's like rotten kids out all night. I hate him, yeah, and his oh. I should also say in the funeral parlor. This is a question I had in the funeral parlor. The history is that we get during the night is that there was a family here that owned this funeral parlor, um, and one night, like one of them went crazy and killed the whole family, but they there weren't sure who did it and all they could tell is it was like very, very bloody. Is that true? You're making faces at me, um I don't remember.
Wilson:It sounds like an odd story, but and then?
Captain:and then there was also like a housekeeper that was killed in the in the whole.
Wilson:Thing okay, so the seance had nothing to do with it and the ghosts just kind of haunt when they well, my question was at the end of the film.
Captain:So that guy, his wife um, is like hey, I made you an apple pie. And he's like, oh thanks, um. And he's eating the apple pie with the razor blades in it and he like gets sliced open from the inside and his wife's happy like clearly she had planned this and like was she the killer the whole time from the funeral piler oh, I don't, I don't think so.
Wilson:I think they were just being funny with that side story, and then he was an insufferable man and I think they were just like, yeah, she killed him, good for her really that's what I think I, I thought they were.
Captain:I I thought they were like piecing it back to they don't know who did all the killing and I was like maybe it's this old lady uh, maybe I, I don't know so you're telling me I read way too much into that I'm not saying you're wrong, that's just not what I thought does the wiki say anything about that? Uh, no, it actually doesn't address it oh, wow, wow yeah, yeah well, that's gonna really change my um rating at the end.
Wilson:So um I don't know, I don't know what to say well, you have some time to think about it, because she does.
Captain:Okay, box office, it just says that she says happy halloween, dear somebody knows um okay so just I don't. I mean I know you have some stoof in here um, I didn't look at any of this um like the box office and the score okay well, I had something I wanted to say, but I'll get into. I'll get into the num nums. Okay, can we rename this section num nums? Yeah, we can okay, so the are you gonna do it right now?
Wilson:so I mean, why not? Okay, fine, I'm gonna forget about if I don't okay.
Captain:So the box the budget for this movie 1.2 mil, box office 3.1. So it just made it's like double the budget that it needs to. So it was a modest financial success. Um, it gained a large following, which is why it has the sequels, um like an occult status. Um, it's critic score is 50. Um audience score is 57, so pretty close. They're usually not that, not that close. Um, and the film did receive, you know, mixed reviews because it is kind of campy, so, like, if you're looking for a real scary movie, probably not this one. You know what I mean no, it's like.
Wilson:I think it's listed as a comedy.
Captain:Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a thin plot and it's not great acting, but it's just kind of like for the for the halloween of it. I cannot believe you're putting letterbox on here what am? I supposed to say 3.5, 3.3 out of 5 for letterbox. Okay, yeah litterbox. It's a good rating what?
Wilson:okay? Oh my gosh, okay, um, I didn't read any of this hot goose does this have?
Captain:I didn't either. Oh no, I just skipped some of it for the last movie because I was like this is not interesting. I didn't read any of this Hot Goose Does this have?
Wilson:I didn't either.
Captain:Oh no.
Wilson:I had to skip some of it for the last movie because I was like this is not interesting.
Captain:Okay, there's something I wanted to talk about and I'm from my little skim scam. I don't see it, so I wanted to know what's going on with this history of razor blades instead of apples. Right, like this is something that we've seen before in other movies or heard about, like tampering with child, with with things for children um, halloween candy like I don't know if that's you've heard of this before right like razor blades and apples uh, yeah, yeah.
Wilson:I mean I don't know if it's actually happened, but I've heard.
Captain:Well, so, so supposedly it never, like there's no evidence that it actually happens. There's actually a research paper put together by two guys in 1985 that examines where this widespread belief that anonymous sadists are giving children dangerous treats on Halloween? Because there was a wide skew of news stories that came out in the 70s and 80s suggesting that there's like something happening. But, um, from what they reviewed, like the threats were greatly exaggerated. Um, it's mostly like an urban legend, um, um, and it really came from, like these growing fears about safety for children and the danger of like crime and other sources of like social strains.
Captain:Um, I think it was like, basically, they were saying, like, because of the cultural things that were happening in america, like fear of like children's safety was coming more into light, and so then, like these fears of like well, what's something that, like children don't have a lot of um, parental like overview is like halloween candy, yeah so, but like so, like realistically, like very, very few of those stories are ever like real or like um to the level that like they're exaggerated too oh yeah, I remember like facebook memes of like, really, this is what's in my kid's candy and it's like I don't know, like a crunch bar wrapper and then there's just a pistol.
Captain:Oh yeah, like I found this in my kid's candy yeah, I saw that when I was googling like where does this like urban, like where does this come from? Because it comes up so often in like movies and I don't know tv and whatever. Um, I saw a reddit post like a, like a, like a troll post or whatever, basically being like am I the only one that's like so tired of putting razor blades in my apples? Like this takes so much of my time, like this takes so much time for me to set all this up, for me to give it to these kids? Like is anyone else getting like cut up by all these racer players?
Wilson:and I was like, oh, that's kind of funny um, but yeah, I don't know.
Captain:I just was like I need to look into this because it comes up often in like older movies, so I thought that was like cool, like child abduction was like um and like of aliens was like a really big thing, I think around this time. And then, therefore, like child safety I don't know if that's, I don't know, I'm not a historian I'll say that.
Wilson:Well, it sounds like you about to be.
Captain:PhD, all right, so some hot goose from the internet. The dance scene Angela's iconic dance scene. Angela's iconic dance scene, iconic to Bauhaus's Stigmata Martyr, is one of the most memorable moments in the film and has become a fan favorite. Kincaid choreographed the dance herself. I remember watching that and I was like what is happening is that where she's like wiggling around and flipping her skirt upside down and stuff probably yeah, that scene was so fucking weird, so weird.
Captain:She choreographed that herself. Wow, oh, the lipstick scene is in here, one of the most famous and bizarre scenes in the movie, um, because she pushes a tube of lipstick into her breast I mean it's literally into her nipple and disappears. The surreal moment was archived using was achieved sorry, achieved using a prosthetic chest created by a special effects artist and they did say that this director is really into that shit, not nipples like special effects I mean maybe those two.
Wilson:Well, yeah, for the sake of this movie um.
Captain:this was filmed in a historic house in la, the isaac rap house, um, but the interiors were shot in a soundstage. Oh, okay, that was the exterior.
Wilson:I don't know if the rest of this hot goss is that interesting. Oh no, we already covered the one.
Captain:It says there's multiple endings, which I always think those are fun when, like they thought about, they considered having the film where Judy and Roger don't escape.
Wilson:The ending where they survive until daylight was chosen to give the audience some hope Didn't like, though, like I Am Legend have like three endings, and that just made me mad. I was like, can you just pick one? Like I can't, I feel like it's a cop out if you're like, oh, it could be any of these, which one do? You like most, and that's what the movie is yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Captain:I I will say I usually I like them, but if I find out that there was a different direction, that they considered and didn't go and it sounds way better than the way they did go, that I'm that, I'm pretty mad and we did a movie.
Wilson:We've done a couple of those, yeah we did one like that somewhat recently. Where um is, that is, that darkness falls again where the yeah, I think there was a lot of editing, but there was like a different they were slightly different concept that one of the things they considered was that he would be the killer or like or like he would be a big red herring, that he could have been the killer and I was like damn, I kind of wish I saw that.
Captain:Yeah and then, yes, they use a lot of special effects in this movie or practical effects, a lot of blood. And despite the low budget, the processed makeup for Angela and Suzanne took hours to apply. Possessed makeup oh my gosh, reading's hard To apply. Yes. Possessed makeup oh my gosh, reading's hard um to apply. Yes, um, probably not as severe as what it is now because they for some of those movies, like marvel movies I think, they sit for like literally like five hours oh yeah, at least but yeah, this was inspired by other classic horrors that you can imagine, like evil dead and the exorcist, um.
Captain:But teeny tenny wanted like just slasher, gore, shit, um, and, as we've said, this is like kind of become a cult classic with sequels, um. So yeah, that's kind of some good, some good. What we'd expect, um good goose, do you have I actually do have a race of glass. Do you have a race?
Wilson:I do oh I do give it to me, give it to me um, we didn't talk about it, but it's towards the end of the movie. Um, and the demons are teasing, I think, like the two people left alive. Um, it's showing the tombstones for their friends that have died. So one tombstone it reads like the friend's name and then the caption under it, like when it says they died, it says died tonight. I just thought that small detail was really funny.
Captain:I actually did not catch that. I didn't catch that at all. Oh yeah, I am the one that I really oh sorry. Is that the one that I really oh sorry? Is that, yeah, the one that I, literally, I, I was laughing so hard, I like I almost had tears in my eyes. Um, which this is supposed to be? Like it's a comedy, so, or a horror comedy, so, like this was definitely supposed to be in there, um, but there's a scene towards the end where Sal is still alive and Sal, uh, where is this?
Captain:Oh, sal says to Angela like people are being weird, like he, suzanne is like walking in the bathroom and things are happening. Anyway, sal says to Angela like yo, I think I'm going to go leave. And he's looking at her and she's in the like she's facing the fire. Um, that's happening in the chimney, but it's like she's way too close to it. So he makes this weird face and he's like he's like what are you doing? And she's like, oh me, I'm just warming my hands in the fire. And she turns and her fire, her fingers are literally on fire. And sal makes the best, like what the fuck face I've ever seen is so funny, it's so funny. And then he runs away like scooby, like like shaggy from scooby-doo, like oh yeah it is his.
Captain:What the fuck face is so funny. And how she delivers the line where she's like cheesing and she's like, oh, moi, I'm just warming my hands, and it's there that that scene got me so hard. Um, and then I also liked a scene earlier on, really quick, when they were doing the past life seance or when they were setting that up stooge. Like the asshole character, like he, it's like the little line that he like throws in there. He's like what kind of drugs do we have to that he says what kind of drugs are we gonna need for this? Like he's like saying that to his friends and it was like it. It was also kind of funny. Um, so yeah, that those are I.
Captain:I really liked the comedy lines from the movie. Was it good overall, though? Probably not.
Wilson:Oh, so what would you rate it then?
Captain:I mean, I don't know, there's a lot of awkward scenes.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:And a few gems of comedy. Probably like a 40.
Wilson:Okay mean coherent mostly wow, what a nice compliment um, but yeah, yeah, I don't know if.
Captain:If, like one of my highlights is your credits at the beginning, I wouldn't say you're a great movie.
Wilson:Ooh.
Captain:What about you?
Wilson:I said a 45.
Captain:Oh, okay.
Wilson:Yeah, I see why it's a cult classic.
Captain:Oh, I should say we didn't really. I mean, we talked about it vaguely, but I will say the special effects makeup of their possessed faces, where they have these jagged yellow teeth and green eyes and bloody, that actually is pretty good.
Wilson:It did look pretty good.
Captain:Especially even for the 80s. It looked good and they did do it on multiple characters. So I just the papier-mâché dragon demon was real, real trash. I don't know where that was coming from, um, but yeah okay I uh, oh my gosh, what are we doing next time? I didn't look that up, did you?
Wilson:um, I can pull it up, unless it's moved a bit. We're doing um virus.
Captain:What the fuck is that?
Wilson:I put that on the list uh, I think I probably put it on.
Captain:I saw it a long time ago wait what yeah you put it on the list you're listing now every once in a while I'll throw a movie on there and I figure, I figure, if you don't like it, you'll just take it off a virus what did you think?
Captain:I said I thought you said iris and I was like papyrus so stupid. Um, I I think I probably said this before, but if I see just virus on the screen, I think of that helix show that I really liked yeah, yeah, um, oh, jamie lee curtis is in this yeah, balls out.
Wilson:all right, I think she has gone on the record to say she doesn't like this movie. Ah no.
Captain:Oh, we got a Baldwin in here, the lesser known Williams Virus. Great Okay, Um virus. Great Um, okay, I, um, I think for me, um, my, I really just really just happy Halloween, spooky times, spooky rhymes Do you have advice, I do. I lastly, though, I don't really recommend this movie.
Wilson:Damn.
Captain:Okay, oh wait, really fast, sorry, sorry. Okay, I'm all over the place. I did look up the plots for none of the demon two and three, just because.
Captain:I wanted to see what they were. So in two it basically says all of the bodies of the kids that died in the first movie were found and like taken care of, except for Angela, and Angela becomes the possessed demon that's taunting the next set of kids that come into the house to party. So it does like it's canon. And then in the third movie, um, basically like all the kids that came in the second movie, like there was like a massacre again, um, but there's like a cop that is like trying to figure out what's going on and like there's follow-up with some of the kids that lived through the massacre, that survived the massacre in the second movie and it's still like angela's the possessed demon. But I think they like secure her or like let her free or some shit.
Wilson:Um but it's like kind of canon, like I'm surprised. And then there's a 2009 remake of the movie as well, but I think that one was terrible so I'm honestly I'm gonna watch two because that sounds interesting, and I think I'm gonna try to watch the 2009 one because I think I saw that what's her face is in it so you like love this movie.
Captain:And who's what's her face?
Wilson:I did not love this movie, but um, it said ted danson, uh, oh, linea. Yeah, she's in it as a cameo oh quickly yeah oh, I thought you.
Captain:I thought you were saying Ted.
Wilson:No, no, ted.
Captain:Okay, I don't know what my advice would be besides, like I mean, I feel like from the jump like don't play in a funeral, oh, specifically, don't play in an incinerator. I think that's really good advice.
Wilson:Wow, thank you. I do that most days, so it's good to know I shouldn't do that, just a good reminder incinerators are where people get burned.