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Ever wondered what it's like to be doused in fake blood while singing along to a musical? Join us as we recount our wild adventure at a live performance of "Evil Dead: The Musical," where the thrill of dodging sprays of fake gore added a whole new layer of fun.
Switching scenes from stage to screen, we dive into the stormy seas of a 1999 sci-fi thriller, where Jamie Lee Curtis and Billy Baldwin face off against mysterious forces on a ghostly Russian vessel. This episode teems with suspense, as we dissect the blend of CGI and practical effects that create its eerie atmosphere. From jaw-dropping plot twists to the film's puzzling ratings, we discuss whether this cult classic deserves a modern reboot and share a few laughs over the film’s quirkiest moments.
Finally, we set sail on a critique of the chaotic events and special effects of the same sci-fi flick, pondering its bizarre yet progressive elements. As we muse on potential casting choices for a remake, our conversation weaves through memorable movie lines and plans for our next cinematic adventure. With a sprinkle of humor and a nod to nostalgia, this episode promises an entertaining experience for theater buffs and film enthusiasts alike.
they don't know what hit them. Okay, I would do want to hear about this tea, um, and what you have written here in the notes is not helpful.
Wilson:I know it's enough to make me remember, but not give it away to you, which was the point. Uh, so um, uh, you know evil dead right yeah yeah, have you seen? Was it just through the remakes or have you seen the original?
Wilson:the originals are with bruce campbell being like chainsaw-y yeah yes those are the ones I've mostly seen honestly okay, so we recently watched uh, the original one and two, um, in preparation for we went and saw a, an evil dead musical, last weekend what yeah, so it was. It was presented by like a local theater, but it was in a parking lot under a canopy because they sprayed blood like all over the audience.
Wilson:Uh, we were not in the splash zone on purpose, but, um, it was really good really yeah, I got a sweater for it and honestly I should have worn that, but it was really cool.
Captain:Is it like, okay, I've heard that they do a lot of like those live audience like Rocky Horror Picture Show. Was it kind of like that?
Wilson:or not so interactive, so I haven't gone to one of those. Yet I have heard, yeah, I feel like every city does like a Rocky Horror Picture Show performance. Yet I have heard, yeah, I feel like every city does like a rocky horror picture show performance. Um, but it I mean I don't know how much they interact with the audience, but I mean it felt really personal and I think the blood really made it personal. I know a lot of people had white t-shirts on just in preparation to get it like stained with blood was it um?
Captain:are you like, are you like sitting in folding chairs? Or like, how is so there?
Wilson:was like some of it I couldn't see because, like the audience wasn't uh at an angle oh um but overall it was really good how many people go to something like that? I mean, I would say, I don't know, at least 100 people were there what I. I think so yeah. Whoa yeah, so they're doing it for about a month and apparently they've done it since 2017. It's only Evil Dead or they do different ones. I mean the theater company I'm sure does other musicals or others plays.
Captain:Outside. I only know about this one they must.
Wilson:They probably do it like for other things too. That seems like a lot of effort just for this, you know, for a month every year well, that's exciting yeah, it was really cool so if you get an, opportunity.
Captain:Check one out um, yeah, I feel like we have local theater theaters that have, like thespian troops, but I don't think they do anything like that, but yeah, we?
Wilson:we found it by accident because, um, finn's parents were visiting one of the other weekends and we were looking for, like, uh, something we could take them to. Uh, we did not. They would not have liked that I was gonna say no, that's how we found out about it I was about to say.
Captain:I was like who are they? What?
Captain:no, no, no I mean, I feel like my mom would maybe be interested, but not my, not my dad, my, my mom. The only reason I the most, the reason I first heard about the rocky har live things was because my mom said that she loved going to this and she was in like college or whatever, like she would go with her friends and like you know, yeah, they're like spraying stuff at you and you're like supposed to scream with them when they're when they scream and I don't know it sounds really fun.
Captain:I want to go to one sometime yeah, I know, but I I've even I've seen like advertisements for them in places like in multiple places, like different cities, so I know they still do stuff like that.
Wilson:I remember them in college. It was advertised like all the time. Maybe it's around holiday or Halloween, but I remember that was a big thing.
Captain:Christmas.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:OK, well, that's fun. Now I'm like jelly sorry about it wow, wait. So is that wait. So is that a musical, or what's the musical?
Wilson:oh yeah, so it was a musical too oh are they good they actually were pretty good. Yeah, like the, the whole cast was really good and the the musical aspect added just a lot more fun to it I wonder if, um, that is like a professional adaptation or they just like made one I feel like, yeah, I don't know, yeah, I don't know.
Captain:A small theater troupe, making one would be really hard.
Wilson:Maybe they just have some really talented people. But yeah, I don't know, I've never written a play or a musical.
Captain:Wow, wow, I don't know, it doesn't really say say oh, you looked it up. Well, I just looked up evil dead adaptation but it doesn't really like.
Wilson:Maybe I should say it like musical yeah, I feel like that's the the keyword you might need wow, um, yeah, there's one George Reinblatt. Is that the creator?
Captain:Oh, I think that's like the music.
Wilson:The music is George. Reinblatt.
Captain:Yeah, he's the lyricist and the booker. There seem to be like two very different roles lyricist and the booker. According to they seem like two very different roles. He wrote the book that the musical is. It says it's a book Like. The musical is a book. Do they call it a book Like if it's a musical rewritten? I have a lot of questions. I don't understand. Oh my gosh. Type in evil dead the musical, and it's a rock musical based on the evil dead franchise that started in 2003, but it says.
Captain:But if I scroll down, it says the lyrics are by george reinblatt and the book is by george reinblatt okay I hear you. I hear you typing.
Wilson:I mean like I hear you typing I'm looking it up, like I believe you.
Captain:I just don't understand and the music is by georgeheinblatt okay, I think you like.
Wilson:Literally you can call it a book, I don't know to tell you so you wrote the play, but he also wrote the music in the play yeah, I guess you can call those books um he's an author baby uh, I, I mean, I don't. Maybe I recognize these songs. I don't know right now if that's what they performed.
Captain:Wow, I love that. Variety said that the Evil Dead musical should be a disaster, but ironically it's self-aware of its jokes, so it all works.
Wilson:Fair enough. Yeah, I think that's the case with, like I feel like you have to. The source material I feel like makes fun of itself anyway. So like I don't know.
Captain:Oh, New York. Times calls it the next Rocky Horror Show. I was right on the money.
Wilson:I don't know if it's that good, but Damn. Damn. It was very good.
Captain:Okay, well, fuck.
Wilson:Shit.
Captain:How much were Tiki's? I want to go.
Wilson:I think it was like 45 each. Damn Damn it is not still playing whenever you're visiting next. So yeah, I think they stop in like two weeks.
Captain:Well, last? No, that was this year. Well, it was almost a year ago now. But I mentioned to you that I went to Broadway in New York and that shit is no joke. So I get it Like I get where you that I went to Broadway in New York and that shit is no joke. So I get it Like I get where you're coming from, like when you see professionals, like be professional crazy.
Wilson:I need to see a Broadway show. It was the last time I was a kid, so it's like I don't yeah.
Captain:What's that song? It's like something in Manhattan.
Wilson:Oh Naked in Manhattan by Chapel.
Captain:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like that.
Wilson:Good news for you Evil Dead. The musical was playing on October 18th by you.
Captain:By your trip.
Wilson:No, I think it's probably just another one, but okay, it's not that close to you, but it's. I don't know how to pronounce this it's Haver-de-Grace, Maryland.
Captain:Haver-de-Grace, you act like you have not. You definitely have been around that area.
Wilson:I've heard of it, but I forget how it sounded when I heard it.
Captain:I think people say Haver-de-Grace.
Wilson:Like they kind of like blur it. Okay, I mean, yeah, it looks like they spray the audience. If you're in the splash zone, yeah, I mean you should check it out, it's in a week Nothing better than being in the splash zone.
Captain:Okay.
Wilson:I'm going to send you a link to this.
Captain:Yeah, just hit me with the link.
Wilson:Yeah, yep, yep yep, all right, hit me with the link.
Captain:yeah, yep, yep, yep um all right.
Wilson:So I did have one other thing that I wanted to chat about with you, completely off topic from this.
Captain:Well, we both finished evil. Oh why did I think evil and cool shit was like part of the musical?
Wilson:no, sorry, um, we, so I, I was it. It's either the halloween episode or the one before that we talk about evil for like the first five minutes and while I was listening to it I was like we never like once say the title of the show we're talking about.
Captain:I know, yeah, I think that was. Yes, I know that was like two episodes ago, bro, it's so bad. Well, I think we talked about it.
Wilson:You, it's like cut from the very beginning I think I had to do that because there was just a bunch of junk at the beginning that's fair.
Captain:I feel like we really we do like to junk up the beginnings yeah, yeah, but it was a good discussion, so I kept it. Well, it was a good discussion, until I realized that, like I, was a whole season behind um yes so yeah, I sped through that because I was really excited and I didn't realize it came back.
Captain:I don't understand how every season of evil I feel like when I watch it it gets just progressively better. I really liked that season. Um, it was kind of sad at the end because you can tell they were like trying to close it out but I know and you can tell that they're not happy about it, but I know, and they left it a little open um did you hear how it that?
Wilson:like maybe you already knew this, but so I had read that, like you know, it's going to come back for season four. They got like 10 episodes and then when they heard it was the final season, paramount gave them four episodes to wrap it up. So that's those last four episodes.
Captain:That's like when they knew it was oh, that's why it's like an awkward amount yeah, like it's more episodes than a typical season yeah yeah, um, yeah.
Wilson:So I'm gonna miss this show so much and I remember one thing I wanted to talk to you about is, uh, assuming you don't skip the intro, the little warning messages they yes, I love those.
Captain:I love those so much. They are so self-aware. I love those messages. I watched every single one and the intro the intro is fire, so like I'm not even that.
Wilson:Oh it slaps, it's.
Captain:I'm not, not mad about it at all. Yeah, um, yeah yo. My favorite episode from that season was the episode when that woman comes to the what it was somebody's funeral and she says Spoiler, the mom is the mom's funeral. Yes, yes, and she, she's like, secretly, she like divulges that she's one of her daughters in the future. Oh my god, I loved, I loved that.
Wilson:I was like, oh, x-files hit it that was, yeah, that was some good drama that episode was really good.
Captain:I love how they explain it. Ben's like jinn is interesting, like that particle accelerator. Part's interesting Like oh man and Leland. The hatred for that man just never ceases.
Wilson:Like I can't stand that man. There was like part of that. I was like they didn't unpack that. A couple times Leland's boss was like why are you protecting her?
Captain:I was like what. Well, I guess they were going to kill her a long time ago and I guess he likes to kind of play with her or tease her. But I think there's also this undertone that he kind of loves her because he tried to get with her really early on, if you remember, like early in the show time for a rewatch, I don't know. There was like there were like scenes of him like kind of coming on to her, I think, but I don't know.
Wilson:Um, my only complaint with how the show ended was one it was a weird ending for, uh, her husband in the show. He just like completely switched, like the type of like his character switched basically, and then just disappeared secretly a sleaze the whole time, I guess. And then the very ending felt weird, but the very ending.
Captain:I feel like they didn't know what to do because they didn't want to end it. But I think the idea we're supposed to get is he's been under Leland's control for a long time secretly, so now he's partially evil because he's not who he is. He's not who he was anymore. He didn't do that mountain trip at all like that was just all him sleeping in leland's closet yeah, but like, is he free of that now?
Wilson:so he's just like no, I think it's like because they kind of they kind of talk about.
Captain:Like when they do that like soul thingy with david, it's like a piece of him's left in there. I feel like if you're around, if leland is doing like spooky stuff with you, like seeds of evil go to you I don't know that's.
Wilson:They didn't say that, but I feel like that's kind of the gist the one of the things that I, um, I like about the show a lot is like. I love any scene where the girls all, like, start yelling at the same time and they always, without fail, pick up some piece of technology and use it exactly how you're not supposed to.
Captain:The ghost app thing is killing me. I'm like put it down, Put it down.
Wilson:Oh my gosh.
Captain:I really was laughing at what's her name? Christine, what's her name?
Wilson:Christine.
Captain:What's her name? Kristen, kristen At her being like screaming at them, like, so help me, god, if you order more toilet paper. I just I don't know. They do a really good job of showing like realistic chaos of like a household with four kids.
Wilson:Yeah, a lot of shows are very. I'm going to miss her a lot.
Captain:Yeah, yeah, but the show just seems more realistic and it's not so line for line scripted. So it's such a good show. It's such a weird show. I feel like there aren't a lot of shows that are like that and I'm going to miss it a lot RIP.
Wilson:I know At least it got four seasons. Yeah, maybe it's chance it gets another, but at this point I think it's unlikely.
Captain:Yeah, like I mean I, there was that thing there Like I don't know.
Wilson:I think they were like trying to tempt Netflix to manifest that show that was going to be canceled and it took the fuck off on netflix. So yeah, but I mean like if netflix takes it, they're gonna do like maybe another season or two. Yeah, I'll still take it, but I think they would do one more season.
Captain:But yeah, I mean, give them a little bit more time yeah um, yeah, I really hope I see well, not noteland, because I never want to see that man. He plays a villain so well. But the other characters I'd like to see them in other stuff.
Wilson:Yes, I'd like I want to look up what Katja, what she does otherwise, because I think at least I really liked her character.
Captain:Something about her character was like very charming and I'd like, I don't know, wait the other thing that I love from this season sorry, I just reminded you is that those doppelgangers that they have, and her doppelganger is who she really is, which is a. Dutch musician speaking Dutch in Amsterdam and I was like, bro, this is so cool. Oh yeah, I loved that, loved that so much.
Wilson:That was a nice little, a nice touch. I don't know what you want to call that, but yeah, no, I was very excited to see that. I don't know, they had fun um and I swear she makes me so thirsty for mini cans of margaritas, like just, I don't know, it's like her character's thing and it just makes it look so good she does drink them a lot.
Captain:Um, yeah, let me see, I don't see anything like very, very recently besides evil. Yeah, evil's the most recent thing she's done. Damn, she was in westworld, I don't remember that.
Wilson:But I mean, she was the um.
Captain:I remember looking this up, she wasn't in it very long, but she was the daughter of the man in black oh in like season one or two damn I think I do not remember that the only thing I remember from watching westworld like when it started, was like either thinking everybody's a robot or nobody's a robot yeah, did you watch the final season, or two?
Wilson:no, no, no I watched like the second to last but I heard it's just like it's just completely off the rails yeah, that's what I figured.
Captain:I mean, the story is good when it starts, but once everything's divulged it it's like okay.
Wilson:I just sent you a picture of her in Westworld. I don't know if it looks familiar at all.
Captain:Why is it so tiny? I think, you have to click on it. Wow, shots fired. Why are they so tiny? That one got smaller. I don't know what to tell you oh there we go. I mean, I don't think this looks familiar. She just looks like Kristen.
Wilson:I mean fair. I think she dies. I think the man in black just ends up shooting her.
Captain:Wow, shocker, shocker. Okay, what's going on here? Are you having um?
Wilson:oh wait, you had a fun drink I do, I spiced it up this week, okay. So, um, in honor of well, it's technically after halloween, but it is a fall, still fall time frame it's spooky in here spooky um. So I'm having. This is a rogue Brewery, is that what it is? Whatever it's called Pumpkin Patch, ale Like, look at that. Can Doesn't that look fun?
Captain:Do you like pumpkin ale?
Wilson:It's not bad.
Captain:And I need to drink it for festivity purposes. Why does it look so different in your cup? It's well, because it's just, it's a dark beer, it's a malt, I guess. Oh, your sweater is making the drink look like hella red oh nope, it is just very and I was like why, did. Why is it that color?
Wilson:it looks like um pomegranate oh no, I mean pomegranate's fine, but um the oh. But on the back it tells you like what to pair, or like what it pairs well with um. So it says it's three things you can try uh, butternut squash soup, seared venison or or shortbread cookies. I feel like it's such a wide range.
Captain:Yeah, they should have like just one bullet that just says like fall shit.
Wilson:Fall shit yeah.
Captain:Yeah.
Wilson:Mashed potatoes. I mean this would be a good like I'd drink this during, like Thanksgiving dinner or something.
Captain:There's nothing better than like that and you're like sitting on a porch and it's like crispy outside and it's like right after dawn.
Wilson:Right after dawn.
Captain:Yeah, like early in the morning, I'm drinking a beer at like 5 am. Well, maybe it's more of like an Irish cream coffee situation then. Oh, that sounds nice so then dusk would be like that I mean, if I'm on vacation, sure we can try a 6 am.
Wilson:So then dusk would be like that Dusk. I mean, if I'm on vacation, sure we can try a 6 am.
Captain:It's always vacation there we go.
Wilson:It's always vacation somewhere.
Captain:I'm not drinking that. I have my fun Halloween koozie, but this is just a Slightly Mighty.
Wilson:But I do like that they changed their can. Oh, it's Dogfish Head.
Captain:Yeah.
Wilson:I don't drink Dogfish Head.
Captain:Why.
Wilson:Aren't all their drinks either ciders or IPAs?
Captain:What is that?
Wilson:This is a L-i-p-a. What does the l stand for light it's a lipa. It's a lipa does it actually stand for light or you don't know?
Captain:it says light on here. Why are you?
Wilson:gaslighting me. You said it like you weren't sure no, it's light I just got a text from finn asking if I'm slandering dogfish head he is. He is slanderer I want, I want to like dogfish head, but I just I don't. I don't feel like any of the drinks appeal to me. Well, try harder, Try harder Well so I do like Pump King, which is an IPA. I don't know if you've had that, but one of the places we go. When they serve it, they put cinnamon sugar on the rim.
Captain:Oh shit. Oh shit, yeah, it's really good, I feel like Pump King is not like.
Wilson:I feel like that's not supposed to be for me, oh, but you can drink like a dogfish head, whatever lipa you have I mean if there was like a pump queen, but okay, so you like? You like pumpkin drinks, just not um I don't know, I've.
Captain:Oh, I actually have no idea um sometimes I think I like them, but if they're like really soury, it's like not my favorite. Interesting, I don't know. I'm very like wishy-wash, I'm very like random, except like mango, yeah.
Wilson:Or if it's like a pumpkin candle.
Captain:Oh, yeah, yeah, Mostly any candle will get me.
Wilson:Fair.
Captain:Okay, are you ready?
Wilson:Yeah, let's jump into this masterpiece. Okay, that sounds sarcastic, but we're just going to jump in. So welcome to the 160th episode of the Red Rum Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two.
Captain:And I'm Captain.
Wilson:And I'm Wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 1999 film Virus. I did not fill that in.
Captain:Wow, wow, but like what's its genre?
Wilson:It's a science fiction horror film okay, that makes sense yes, uh, all right, so jumping in the director. Uh was directed by john bruno oh, we don't talk about bruno we don't talk about uh. He's mostly known for his work as a visual effects artist, which makes sense after now seeing this movie.
Captain:Yeah, checks all the boxes.
Wilson:He contributed to films such as the Abyss, Terminator 2, Judgment Day, True Lies and also theme park attractions like Terminator 2, 3D, Battle Across Time.
Captain:You skipped over the fact that he won an Academy Award.
Wilson:Oh, okay, wait, do we know? Oh for the Abyss.
Captain:Yeah, is that what that says? Okay, bitch.
Wilson:Good for him.
Captain:That's crazy. Is the Abyss, that one that they always talk about as like it was like the hardest thing ever to shoot?
Wilson:I think. So I remember, like, I think, a couple people almost drowned yeah, or like yeah, they were on the verge of death.
Captain:I, I wanted to watch this movie after I've heard about it, but, like I, I still haven't haven't had the chance I saw it once and it's good, um, but I think it is a lot. I think it's supposed to be very long I'm trying to see, but I just see that it um made money it's 140 minutes so it's a little long, but not crazy.
Wilson:Um, but he did okay. So looking at his visual effects, uh, history like he's been a lot of stuff. He has a lot of good experience. I mean there's like poltergeist, ghostbusters, fright night uh, batman returns.
Captain:Uh, alien versus predator, titanic, x-men 3, avatar, twilight I can see all of those after like if this is the precursor, the movie we just did, like it, all that makes sense the tracks.
Wilson:Yeah, um, okay, so that's the director, so we'll bop it in the cast. Uh, so it starts. Jamie lee curtis everyone's familiar with her. She's in halloween my girl my girl uh everything everywhere all at once. Freaky friday, true lies um. You also have one of the baldwins, william baldwin. I feel like he's not.
Captain:He's like one of the lesser known baldwins um yes and alec but he, he is serving baldwin, I mean he's oh, oh yeah I mean it. It's copy-paste the faces.
Wilson:Oh, absolutely so. He's best known for Backdraft and Flatliners. I think I've seen Flatliners, I don't know what Backdraft is.
Captain:Backdraft does not sound good.
Wilson:No, it does not.
Captain:He is married to Chyna Phillips which is one of the members of the band Wilsonips uh, am I supposed to know who that is?
Wilson:they did the song hold on which is at the end of bridesmaids. You know that?
Captain:um, I can't sing it, I'm not gonna try, but if you heard it, you would uh okay, I recognize.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, okay um, and then okay, so that's william baldwin. Uh, then we have donald sutherland sir, sir what, what?
Captain:the ratings for backdraft are like pretty good, oh I thought you're gonna be like they're terrible no, I'm like shook though.
Wilson:Okay, sorry, shook it no, you're good, uh, okay. So then we have donald sutherland um. I guess he was originally famous for mash he's the captain in this movie, yeah yeah, um, he was an evasion of the body snatchers. He's in hunger games as president snow. I mean, he has a very long filmography does he always speak like that? Um like kind of like he's got goop uh I don't remember what he sounded like in this movie, but I don't remember it sounding different than what I oh my god, I'm used to him sounding like.
Captain:Did he just died?
Wilson:like when is just? Like june oh, uh, I don't know if I knew that. If I did, I forgot how old? Was he he was 88 wow, I can't imagine, born in 1935, like you've seen a lot of change and he's looked old as long as I've been alive, so shots fired um. I'm just I, I, I think it's just like if there's a, if they play a character who is either grade early or I don't know like, they just perpetually look that age to me is he is keifer, his or what?
Wilson:oh, I think keifer is his son okay, because I've heard that name too.
Captain:I don't really know why, like I don't know what.
Wilson:Yes, yes, keifer is his son.
Captain:I just looked it up okay there are a couple other kids, but wait, is keifer the 24 guy, like the main 24. Okay, that's why, because I tried that show keep dog okay, what else we got?
Wilson:what else we got? Okay, so a couple more casts we have uh joanna pacula who was that? So this was the uh the russian person I found on the boat. Yeah, um, so she does have a lot hold that thought she does have a long filmography. I don't recognize most of the films, but I had to put this one in here. It was Silence of the Hams and it's a. It's like a mockumentary not a mockumentary, but like a, a spoof of Silence of the Hams it sounds amazing.
Captain:Is she actually? Is she American like in real life?
Wilson:no, she's Polish, I believe okay, okay, wow. Joanna, yes, I just confirmed, she is bro, this movie looks hilarious and I've barely looked at it okay, I'm gonna keep a tab open for it so I can like look it up later and see if it's worth watching okay oh, it has Billy Zane in it.
Captain:Alright, alright yeah, why do I know him? He's in a bunch of shit, but he was in Titanic.
Wilson:he was like the guy that Billy Zane in it. Alright, yeah, why do I know him? He's in a bunch of shit, but he was in Titanic. He was like the guy that Rose was engaged to. Yeah, okay, so then we have Marshall Bell. You'd recognize him. He's known for Nightmare on Elm Street 2,.
Captain:Stand by Me. Which one is he in this movie?
Wilson:You're supposed to say the person. They're playing this character.
Captain:Oh, he played the guy that got like punched through and then thrown across the room. The whiny guy, yeah, with a nail gun. Yeah, yeah, yep, yep.
Wilson:They said his name, but I can't remember what it was oh yeah, I guess I didn't put those in here, but I didn't really catch any of their names besides squeaky, so okay, that's not true. They say most of their names, they say all the names, but squeaky is the only one that I'm like I know what they're talking about.
Wilson:It's squeaky, you know yeah, um, so he was also in twins, total recall and starship troopers. Um, then we have cliff curtis. He played the guy that. Uh, he fell off the boat spoiler alert but he like into the water and he had the tattoos on his face yeah, I think it was hiko, okay, that sounds right.
Wilson:Um, he was in avatar 2. He's gonna be in avatar 3. He was in the fountain doctor, sleep, fear the walking dead. He's like one of those faces that you recognize from a lot of things but you don't know his name yeah, it's hard to recognize him in here because he has face tattoos as a character. I don't know what was going on with that, but I'm.
Captain:I thought he was supposed to be like a really bad representation of native american, but maybe I just I've never seen, I don don't like that. That's what I? I don't know, yeah, but um.
Wilson:And then we also have Julio Oscar, much, much so um. He is a considered, a character actor.
Captain:Wait, which one is that? Is that Richie Uh?
Wilson:yeah, hold on. I just looked this up uh, no, that's squeaky.
Captain:Oh man, squeaky wasn't in this for very long okay no, he wasn't, but he's been a lot of stuff.
Wilson:He was in like uh, bad boys, jurassic park 3 um miami vice little miss sunshine grace, just like everyone else in the world.
Captain:Yeah, all of this stuff.
Wilson:Yep yeah, so that's basically the cast.
Captain:Yeah, you don't talk about Richie, but he's in Stranger Things.
Wilson:I clicked on every one that I could.
Captain:Sherman Augustus. He plays.
Wilson:Lieutenant Colonel Jack.
Captain:Sullivan in season four of stranger things and he's in the into the badlands. Richie has a big part in this. That's why I wanted to look him up why are you making that face?
Wilson:who's richie? Which one is he?
Captain:richie, the guy that was like gun happy, the one that made the the chair. At the end he said, like I'll save you, go to the missile room are we?
Wilson:are we watching the same movie? Wait, wasn't that william baldwin? Wasn't he the one that was like?
Captain:I'll put you in the chair yeah, yeah, but the person that rigged the chair oh, the one that was like off by himself most of the time richie, richie. I think his biggest credit was that he was in stranger things recently. But good for him okay, that's a lot of people in this movie yeah, uh, okay.
Wilson:So jumping into the. The movie itself. Um, okay. So the movie starts off with everyone speaking russian and you only get some of the subtitles. But basically it's like russian military or something. They're on a boat and they're communicating with um, like russians in a space station yeah um, and then this like weird uh space phenomenon hits the space station. It gets all electrocuty and then it sends a signal down to the boat.
Captain:The boat gets all electrocuty and then it like cuts to seven days later well, the boat like explodes, like there's like there's like shattering, and then Nadia does like a really there's like a micro scream queen situation. Yes, it's like zappy, though Everything's like it's very zappy. And then yeah, then it cuts to seven days later.
Wilson:So so when it cuts, seven days later we come to like a little tugboat in the middle of the ocean and they're trying to avoid a typhoon um oh, that's what that was and then they, um, they like see on the radar this boat that's not moving at all. So they're like well they're.
Captain:They're looking for other boats because their boat's like basically going under, like they. They took on a bunch of water and they're like sinking and they're trying to fix it, but they can't um, totally missed that what it was like went on for like eight minutes, bro.
Captain:I just I just thought they like saw a boat and they're like let's pillage it no, they were like, we need help uh I don't know that captain was pretty thirsty for money well, he was about to kill himself, like literally, he like had a gun to his forehead which I don't understand. Like you, you go through like one typhoon and you want to kill yourself. Like what? But I guess he was an alcoholic too. Um, but there's like a lot of time where jamie lee curtis's character, foster, is like screaming that we like need to get this shit together. You don't, you didn't catch any of that I.
Wilson:I remember her being the voice of reason. I don't know why she is on this boat.
Captain:She does not belong there she said her dad's a married time or something it's not a good reason to like go on the boat well, I think she likes it I don't know, but they needed help. So they like we're calling out. But then they find this boat and it's abandoned. So they decide pretty quickly that once they see that it's Russian and it's big, that they can steal and then get money for it.
Wilson:Because if there's no one alive on the boat and it's in the middle of the ocean, they can basically sell it back to the Russians for like 10% of what the boat's worth and they did the math.
Captain:That's like 300 mil. So splitting it they each would get like 30 mil, right?
Wilson:yes, yeah, uh, well, no, not each. I think total they would get 30 mil because it's 10 of the total cost. So they would each get oh, they'd each get three.
Captain:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, math's hard yeah um, I wasn't.
Wilson:I was like how are you coming up with these numbers?
Captain:they're like they're just randomly estimating and they're like mind blown, I don't know I mean, I think they're all supposed to have like some shit background, so like they know some stuff. Now why would they know about, like Russian technology robots? I couldn't fucking tell you, but I don't know. That Richie guy, I think he said that he was like went to war, so maybe he's like seen some shit. I don't know.
Captain:Maybe, so, but I will say, though they do, even though they make this plan, they have seen some weird shit on the boat already, Like there are holes that look like bullet holes and there's like cables everywhere, and there's blood. There's like blood, there's a smashed satellite saucer like across one of the walkways, Like it's not good in there and it looks like uh, like there's like what do you call that area where it's like the captain his wheel is and it's like the bridge yeah, so the bridge is like a, like a tornado went through there.
Wilson:Like stuff, shit, like shits everywhere yeah, but they don't see any people.
Captain:There's like well, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, I mean I get it. Whatever I mean, I will say, though, I I like the line. So foster is always the voice of reason. Jamie lee curtis, and she's like you know, although it's like, this is technically like legal, like mary tall, and law says that you have to make sure you don't find anybody. You can't find anybody alive on the ship, and the captain goes well, let's hope we don't find anybody alive. And she was like what the fuck does that mean? And he goes well, it just means what I said, and I was like damn, he's ready to kill some people.
Wilson:Is that like a real Maritime Law? Because this seems like a bad incentive to just kill everyone on a boat.
Captain:Yeah, I don't know. I feel like that wouldn't be a law.
Wilson:But I mean I could try to like. Look, I mean I don't like need to know, I'm just like seems like asking for trouble. So, anyway, they get down in the engine room, they're like the boat's off, so they turn it on. Get down to the engine room, they're like the boat's off, so they turn it on. And then, after that happens, they notice the like okay, so the tugboat is going in front of the boat because they're going to pull this boat back to shore to sell it. So the tugboat's getting a position. And then in the bridge they notice that the anchor activated and it basically smashes the tugboat and it's's. You know now?
Captain:underwater. Um, that was like a serious smash. That anchor like smashed in and then, like the one guy was like I can't swim, which is like fucking crazy. The one guy's terrified to be in the water and he just ditches him we did, yeah, we watched that. We were like what is happening?
Wilson:yeah, so anyway, they make it back on the boat. Everyone's safe, the tugboat's destroyed. And then, while they're fixing the guy one, the one guy up in the medical bay um, this is where we find one of the like somebody pops out of a locker, starts shooting and that ends up being Nadia, for whatever reason.
Captain:Did you say that because there's somebody? Was it at this time? No, I think it's before they even get to the medical bay, though they're under the impression that somebody is trying to sabotage the boat. Um, because the anchor that sunk the sea star and so they tell squeaky to lock himself in the control room so nobody else can come in there yes and as soon as the russian, as soon as nadia is like shooting at them. It makes steve really nervous because squeaky's not answering and so then he's like, oh shit.
Wilson:And we see Squeaky basically get pulled away by robot cables.
Captain:He gets choked out by robot cables and then pulled into whatever pipe that was Tubes, tubes.
Wilson:And then later they come down to try to find him and the door is welded shut.
Captain:Yeah, can I just say, though they got shot at like everything in the medical bay shattered. Nobody got actually shot, which is crazy, but they're so calm.
Wilson:They're so calm as if they didn't just get shot out on a boat in the water, and they don't restrain her after that either.
Captain:Crazy, Crazy that there's no restraint afterwards. I just could not get over that.
Captain:I was like this lady's not, we're not here for this, Okay there is maritime salvage law I did see, just FYI, and it does basically say that you will be rewarded for saving a ship that's in peril, but I don't necessarily see. Oh yeah, it says the vessel must be in peril either immediate or forthcoming and the salver must be acting voluntarily under no pre-existing contract and some life or property must be successfully saved. But I don't see anything about like you can't find anybody alive on board.
Wilson:I think that part's not true okay, that is a good thing um yeah, I know, I feel like it might be different.
Captain:If, uh, like I don't know it might. It might be a different amount of reward whether there's life or not.
Wilson:But but I don't think they would incentivize.
Captain:There's nothing there? I don't think so.
Wilson:Yeah exactly.
Captain:I don't think so Okay.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:So wait, so so Nadia wakes, like when Nadia wakes up, like they like knock her out, or so Nadia wakes up, they knock her out, or whatever. She wakes up and she comes to and I think she very quickly tells us what's going on. She says you don't understand, there's a thing on this boat and it needs power to survive, so we have to turn the power off. That's why the power was off. When they got on the boat she said there was 300 crew members that either were like dead or deserted. Um, because like this thing that's on the boat, it like learns everything, scans everything that's happening and then takes over to be like a killing machine. Um, that was like her explanation for it. Um, and then then I think foster asked her more questions. She was like something. She explains that like something came on the boat during the last transmission up to the space station.
Wilson:It like zapped in and then it like just took over yeah, and like of course, nobody believes her for a while they just think she's crazy but meanwhile, like the crew, split up right.
Captain:So like the people, that are like down in the power room or whatever are, like they're finding these little robots and like they think they're kind of cool at first.
Wilson:Like they think they're kind of cool but, um, shortly after that, um, I think they get attacked yeah, they get like shot with a nail gun, uh attacked with like a drill, and then they see somebody in the shadows shooting, which I think is just another accomplice to nadia bro, bro, when that scene at the end, when that nasty robot walks in with like human skin stretched across its little, uh, electronic machinery pieces, jaw dropped, jaw drops. I saw you were like I was not expecting that.
Captain:I was like why is this movie so fucking like? I don't know? I was just shocked, I don't know, I I was just surprised it was good. I was expecting something really shitty and I was like damn, scare me.
Wilson:I mean, the effects were pretty good, Bro, this movie is 25 years old.
Captain:The effects hold up. What is happening, yeah?
Wilson:There were a couple scenes where they do the robots so big they do CGI. It looks a little iffy but not terrible.
Captain:Yeah, so big they do cgi. It looks like a little iffy, but okay, not terrible. Yeah, for what I would think cgi would be in 1999 wilson, it looks really good. Yeah, I mean, maybe I'm drunk, I don't fucking know, but it looked good it did look good.
Wilson:I think it's because a lot of it was practical effects and they just held up well bruno snaps for bruno bruno.
Captain:Thank you, john bruno um, yeah, so um nasty that like big big robot with human skin. Um yeah and then I think you get more explanation. There's like some. So foster and nadia are like getting close, while like there's other shit happening, I don't know. But we get more explanation from her that like she thinks it is like uh, I think it's that they bring that robot. They like bring it, they like it comes into the room or something or they oh, it's the captain oh yeah, yeah, alexi her husband, but they like shot.
Captain:They like shot it down and like so they have like half of him or something, and remember they're like investigating him yeah um, and she like says, like it was, she thinks it's like this alien thing that like isn't like normal life as we know it, it's like life made out of electricity and it's like really smart and it can like bioengineer human stuff to like work with its machinery which sounds really scary if that was like a real thing. Um, but oh yeah. And then she says like she, it started off small with like little bitty robots, but then it like kept building things and it took her husband to make this like half man, half robot thing very like um, terminator I don't know if terminator was around the same time a goopier version maybe much goopier.
Captain:Yes, yes was terminator before this. It was right. Yeah, that was like I think so.
Wilson:Yeah, it was like several years before.
Captain:Well, that's what it's giving.
Wilson:And I think it was kind of cool. So they obviously shot the cyborg thing and then a little skeleton mini robot popped out of it. It was like just the skull.
Captain:Lots of fun. Disgusting effects yeah, I wasn't, as it's not like gory, like the goreness of like you know, like that's not really there, but I mean it's on the edge. I mean we'll say when they're like, uh, poking in brain, I was like get that off the fucking screen yeah, but there wasn't a lot of like, like gushing blood or like. No.
Wilson:It's like not exactly body horror, like it is a little bit, but it's like it's on the cusp yeah.
Captain:It kind of is like half Terminator, half like Jurassic Park-y kind of Like which I guess he did a lot of that stuff, true, but that's kind of where that at, that's. That's like in the same realm, um, but yeah, the the thing is, though, like that guy that like half robot man thing was like I don't know still partially alive, I'm not really sure, but they like, okay, I will say richie is really gun happy, like he'll shoot literally anything, so like he shoots a lot in this movie, and then I will. It's like they're kind of dealing with all of this, um, you know, listening to nadia explain everything that happened, and then on top of that it's like, oh yeah, there's a storm coming, like they're in the eye of this huge typhoon so like as soon as the, the storm moves past that, that, and they're not in the eye anymore.
Captain:so like then they have to deal with all of that, and that's kind of like where the movie really kind of takes a turn.
Wilson:Yeah, but I think at this point the robots are basically taking over the boat and steering it, so it doesn't like capsize or whatever. So I guess that's like one bonus.
Captain:I mean I think they're still dealing. I mean the storm's still happening.
Wilson:Oh yeah, but I don't think the boat's In danger of like capsizing. I mean they're still in danger of dying From robots. Just a little.
Captain:Well, like, but the waves that were happening, like, I think that's how Hiko, hiko, what was that man's name? That's still like. Isn't that how he died?
Wilson:Like waves yeah, he saved Foster. And then he got swooped yeah he go.
Captain:He got swooped by waves yeah, so, like you know, storms can kill still oh yeah um, so I think, oh, we do find squeaky. He's missing for a long time that's around the same time that they're trying to like escape, storm things, and I feel so bad. I feel like steve's character really liked him, I really loved him and he's like.
Captain:He looks like um, he's got like robot monocles but like level 10 I don't know. He's got one of his eyes are missing and it's just robot. Yeah, beep boop, yeah, um, and the. They do try one last mayday. Right, richard tries one last mayday. And this is like the scene that I fucking hated the most is like the captain shooting the mayday. Uh, like the um stare the radio and being like nobody's gonna take my salvage claim bro that was so annoying well yeah, because then he makes a deal with the robots I mean there's nothing else.
Captain:I mean, well, I think his, I think he realizes his whole crew is not behind him anymore, like they're all like, they like push him and they're like you're not in charge anymore.
Wilson:So he's like, well, fuck, I'm just gonna switch teams um so he like made that deal, was like how do I like? I will get you to shore, I'll keep you alive, what can I do for you?
Captain:and then the next scene he like walks in and he's, he's a robot oh, I will say so he can talk to this robot through the computer, which is how they like make this plan. Okay, I will say um, before that they realize richie is like a their tech guy, I guess. So they realized that he realizes that he can talk to the robot by typing into the computer. So, um, he says, he says like what, who are you? And the robot responds I am aware. And then he says what do you want? And the robot says, um, you are a virus. They say. He says like I'm aware you are a virus. Um, he says like I'm aware you are a virus.
Captain:Um, which I like love that the title of the movie is called virus, thinking that it's the robot, but like in the robot's mind or in the this electric monster, alien mind, like the humans are the virus. I'm like slay, slay, slay, um. But then it says he says what do you want? And it's just like a list of, like very specific body parts. And nadia says like yeah, it's looking for spare parts to like build these half human robots again. And I was like, uh, like this is a movie, this is good.
Captain:I was like damn scary Okay yes, so yeah then the captain takes that tool and makes his own deal to like get to port which I think he's still going to try to salvage the ship. But at least the robot, at least the electric alien can like go and destroy the rest of the human race.
Wilson:Yes, but I don't know if it was intentional on the captain's part or not, but he did get turned into a robot I don't think that was intentional uh, and then he does get sort of blown up by a grenade yeah, yeah.
Captain:They basically decide that they need to destroy this ship and destroy him as well, since he's a robot, so this monster thing can't get to the rest of the human race. And then there's some sacrificing Nadia sacrifices herself so that she can bomb them. Yeah, there's a grenade that happens in there that doesn't really act like a real grenade yeah it like sizzles some grates yes but the goal is they're gonna fill the open space of the boat with fuel or like the
Captain:cargo ship of the fuel, however that works yeah, and they say all these plans out loud, which I get it like you have to make plans, but the robot can hear everything.
Captain:Oh yeah, there's cameras everywhere there's cameras everywhere, there's microphones, like there's little uh crawly robots that are you know just for receiving data, that like it can hear everything, so like it knows exactly what they're doing and they're, I mean, they're doing it anyway, but um, they get halted by robots like trying to stop them. Um, at the very end of that movie, that like giant, like decepticon robot thing that came through the door, bro, that was so.
Wilson:That was the cgi thing, I think, but that was also really good it was still pretty good but that thing was like tearing through the ship like tissue paper.
Captain:I was like damn, we, we're gonna get wrecked in here, um and that, that like. I mean, I don't know the only word I have for it is like decepticon, um yeah, they blow it up twice and it's still not dead. Well, at first, remember it steals, it captures Jamie Lee Curtis and electrocutes her to try to get information about where the detonator is, because I guess they don't say it out loud where they put it. But it has a 15-minute timer on it, right?
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:And he was like where is it? And she was like fuck you. And then he electrocutes her. So then everybody else on the team that's still alive and not robot like blows it up with missiles and stuff well, yeah, like they shoot a bazooka at it and then it's still alive.
Wilson:And then after that, nadia, when she gets captured, she like shoots some like tanks and uh, explosion.
Captain:Yeah, I think they were like fire extinguishers. She like explodes them. I guess it wouldn't. Be no, it would be some other. Yeah, some other gas tank.
Wilson:It's like a gas yeah, um, so she's dead.
Captain:And then that's when jamie the curtis and billy baldwin get into this like ejection seat yeah, that was retrofitted from missiles, I guess yeah, again, richie says to their tech guys he was like he was, he was dying, he like got like shattered. I don't know there was like shrapnel or something, but uh, he was like he was, he was dying. He like got like shattered. I don't know there was like shrapnel or something, but uh, he was like just go to the weapons room and there's, there's one way to still get off this ship and I rigged it up for you.
Wilson:So yeah, but they don't end up even using the detonator. They use a pin on a grenade which is attached to more gas tanks, which then, I think, ignites the fuel. Oh yeah, Did we miss a part where the detonator blew up or was destroyed?
Captain:Oh yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that was all like pins, I don't know Well. In any case, they get rocketed out of the boat and they land in the water. The worst special effects of this whole movie is their little rocket flying scene. That looks stupid. No.
Wilson:I mean, yeah, it looks terrible. I just have a hard time believing like, oh, I retrofitted this rocket booster to put a seat on it so you can shoot out of this ship.
Captain:How much time did he have, like he couldn't have tested anything.
Wilson:Yeah, I just.
Captain:Your face.
Wilson:I just I don't know, I don't get it, I don't know man, he has a chair, he has some missiles. I mean, it looked cool. I just don't get it.
Captain:No, it did not look cool. The little special effects they do with it shooting out of the ship look stupid. And they don't even hit the water, they're flying in the air. I'm like this is stupid. Everything else is good. This is kind of stupid.
Wilson:But they get ejected. In the middle of the typhoon. The ship blows up and then it goes to like dawn. The water is completely still and they're alive floating on a piece of the ship.
Captain:Titanic.
Wilson:You survived without a boat in a typhoon and you're just like hanging.
Captain:Well, I thought the typhoon like was basically past them like hanging.
Wilson:Well, I thought the typhoon like was basically past them. I don't know, I don't know whenever they got shot out.
Captain:It did not look peaceful. No, it didn't, that's very true. Um, but uh, the they did get the the mayday that went out, though, even though that um radio got shot, um did actually get to a real ship. So real people, come and save them.
Wilson:Yep, there is a fake out or not a fake out. But Jamie Lee Curtis is swimming in the water and she's like, oh, she sees the guy that fell overboard and she turns his face and it's burned and he jumps at her. But then she wakes up on the helicopter.
Captain:Yeah, I didn't really need that. Didn't really need that.
Wilson:He wasn't even a robot.
Captain:He was just a burned face man. Yeah, I think that we were supposed to get the idea that, like, maybe he was a robot for like one second and then it was just a nightmare. But yeah, I don't really know what that part was for, I didn't really need that. Maybe that, maybe that hit better in 1999.
Wilson:But maybe they just needed to like make the ending not like it's a piece ending, but like give one more little like surprise little heart attack oh yeah, they're fine at the end.
Captain:Her and uh, her and billy safe foster and billy um, I will say one of my best, biggest takeaways from this movie is this movie passes the bechdel test like pretty, pretty thoroughly, like multiple times.
Wilson:So I didn't think about that.
Captain:Yeah, you're right good for them 1999 good for her but I will say so, I do really like this, like I do really like this movie, and maybe it's because I was expecting like really bad.
Wilson:I don't know.
Captain:I mean, I don't know what the score is for this, but I do really like this movie. I feel like if you were gonna remake it today, like I would maybe do things differently, like a little bit, but sure like I. Okay, I think it would be so cool. I was having this thought while I was watching the movie.
Captain:I was like this would be so cool if, like we find out at the very end that, like nadia was a robot, like she was a secret robot, okay, okay yeah, and like she pretends to sacrifice herself but like she like takes them down at the very end, I was like damn, I love that shit that would be a good twist in a remake, yeah, or um, or like the scene where, um, jamie lee curtis gets electrocuted, like she acts like she's not robot, but like she secretly does have the electric monster in her, and she's like she's like the monsters in foster and we see it in the helicopter at the very end, so like it is getting to the human race.
Captain:Like I was like damn. I've watched a lot of scary movies and I like know how to make those twist endings, cause I feel like that. I would love that. If that's like something that they had in a remake, no, you should submit that idea and see who. I'm gonna write that shit down well based on some hot goss.
Wilson:I don't think Jamie Lee Curtis will be in, so what okay spill spill, okay, uh. So do you want me to skip the like rotten tomatoes and budget for now and go straight to hot gauze?
Captain:oh no, I'll take the numbs okay, okay.
Wilson:So rotten tomatoes 12 critic, 23 audience what the critic. I'm not surprised, but audience I was like that seems a little low wait.
Captain:Why am I stupid?
Wilson:I love this movie maybe we had such low expectations. Um, the letterboxd score is 2.2 out of 5, so almost better. Um, and then the budget. Where did that go, for some reason? Oh, there, it is okay. So the budget was 75 million, but it was a flop. It only made 30.7, 7 million, jamie, no, yeah, so it was a big, big financial loss damn, I don't understand, okay, yeah um, okay, so you want some goss yes okay, um.
Wilson:Well, so first one, it was the film was based on a dark horse comic series, um, and the director didn't initially like the script, uh, but he made changes inspired by his own experiences working on the titanic yep, that makes sense that was pretty cool um oh wow, they used a real retired yeah ship for the film.
Wilson:Oh, that's so cool um, okay, so this is the guy I was like hinting at. So in an interview at some point, jamie Lee Curtis cited this film as one of the worst projects she's ever worked on. She said that's a piece of shit movie. It's an unbelievably bad movie, just bad from the bottom.
Captain:Oh my god, am I dumb.
Wilson:She goes on to say she's like there's a scene where I'm running away from this alien and I actually hide under the stairs. I come down the stairs, duck, you know, up underneath them, and she her character's quivering. The big robot like comes down the stairs and she's hiding under the stairs, um, and she's like this is something that can open walls of steel and she's just hiding under stairs, um. It was, I guess, a moment that tested her ability to suspend disbelief, so she's not gonna want to do a remake okay, but what about?
Wilson:the ending's different and she's like harboring the virus I mean, maybe, maybe you have to pitch it to her jamie um the next star boy.
Captain:Set up a meeting? Yes um.
Wilson:The next bit of hot goss is there was actually a line of action figures for some reason, for some reason. Um, so they had versions of the captains and squeaky with their cyborg implants, and then it also included parts that you could restore their original appearance. So all of these sets included one or more firearms for their figure, and then, I guess, the giant monster.
Captain:Do they look good? I I mean, they look like 1990 action figures the uh cheap is like 15, and some of them are expensive, as like 200. Oh, I think you can get the whole set for like 200. Oh, oh, wow, I think you can get the whole set for like $200.
Wilson:Oh.
Captain:Oh wow, that's actually really interesting.
Wilson:I am intrigued, I mean.
Captain:I'm not going to buy it, but I am intrigued.
Wilson:I feel like this would be definitely something that you would have. That's insane. Okay, so the box looks like I mean, you probably wouldn't know this, but like an early Transformers toy box, like the lettering is giving me Alien like the Alien franchise, yes, oh yeah, I don't know what outfit I'm looking at the one with the Goliath, like the big monster, and Nadia's with it but I'm like, was she ever wearing that outfit?
Captain:oh, I see like the little transforming pieces where you can like click things on and off. Captain Alexei has his own action figure. That dude was in. I see like the little transforming pieces where you can like click things on and off. Captain Alexei has his own action figure. That dude was in the movie for like four minutes.
Wilson:This is pretty cool. I don't know. They must have really thought this movie would slay. I mean, maybe it just took 25 years, Maybe yeah, our episode will be the resurgence of this film.
Captain:Yeah, Jamie Lee Curtis comes on the pod.
Wilson:Yep, okay, so there is another hot gossip. There is a tie-in video game. It's barely related, but it's called Virus it Is Aware. So it had little to do with the film, apart from the introduction and ending cinematics.
Captain:um, but yeah, I guess that the same concept was used for a video game oh follows a female police officer trapped in an infected hotel along with her partner stutter. So the virus did get to shore yeah, apparently what's this last list of films featured?
Wilson:oh, I thought that was so I need to check this out. There's um. The wikipedia linked me to this article of list of films featuring space stations that is so up your alley. It's like I know kind of unfair kind of unfair. They even categorize it like non-documentary films using a real space station as a plot, films that use it as related to the plot, and then films like fully fictionalized space station as the plot. I don't know, I just thought it was cool looking. I need to check that out.
Captain:Um, there are some people that wikipedia like things that I would never think would be wikipedia'd.
Wilson:So yes, yes um, okay, so the last bit of hot gas, and it was like touched on this briefly earlier um, sort of. So the film was mostly shot in newport news, virginia, on a ship anchored in the james river. Um, it says, a horizontal bar on the ship was raised and lowered to conceal the horizon line, making it look like the ship was like further out to sea. Um, so the ship was actually the retired missile range instrumentation ship, missile Range Instrumentation Ship, usns General Hoyt S Vandenberg. So one of the ship's satellite dish antennas was intentionally damaged for the film's final scene, or the ship was destroyed. They did. Oh, okay, so they sunk the ship in 2009, but some of the original lettering that they put on for the movie was like still visible, I guess they sunk the ship yeah, actually there's a picture of it from wikipedia, of it underwater in 2015.
Wilson:They just put it underwater I don't know if I like that concept of like. If they're done with the ship, they'll just be like. If they don't know if I like that concept of like, if they're done with a ship, they'll just be like if they don't tear it apart, they'll just sink it.
Captain:Yeah, I didn't know that, like we really do, just use the ocean as a garbage bin.
Wilson:This says it's an artificial reef, so aren't those like good things, or something?
Captain:I you're, I don't. Marine biology is not you're, I don't.
Wilson:Marine biology is not.
Captain:Maybe if they call it an artificial reef. That, like, makes it okay, you know what? That's probably what it is. You're probably right, um, I love that. You're. Um, I love that.
Wilson:What you have is your rag in here oh yeah, I had to write it down before I forgot. Um, but first, what would you rate this movie?
Captain:Oh, oh, my God, we're doing that before Rags.
Wilson:We can do Rags first. What do you?
Captain:want to do. All right, what would I rate this movie? I like it, I'm going to say, you know, and I think it is because it's like a pleasant surprise, and so I feel like that's messing with it a little bit sure um, but I don't know, man, I feel like I'm gonna go with like a. I feel like I'm gonna go too high. I want to say like a 70, but I feel like that's really high do you want to go with a 70?
Wilson:yeah, let's go with the 70 okay, so I I put 74 damn I, because I think like, objectively it's probably like a 50 or 60 movie, but I think, like what you were saying, I was expecting way worse and I was like really pleasantly surprised and it is an entertaining movie this movie made my jaw literally drop, so yeah, like at least three times.
Captain:Yeah, I saw it yes, because I was shocked. I was like what is this half, what is this human skin stretched over a robot thing? And then they got, then those, those things just get progressively bigger and and then they take our main man Squeaky and make him one of them. I was like God damn, yeah, and the captain, but nobody likes that alcoholic captain. Oh yeah, nobody.
Wilson:Yeah, okay. So what's your razor glass, your rag?
Captain:I do think my rag is going to have to be the computer saying I'm aware and you are the virus. I was like damn. I do really like that line. I do have an honorable mention which I don't think is yours, based on what you have written in here.
Wilson:Okay.
Captain:But so at the very end of the movie where the Mayday ship says to them shoot a flare to tell us that you're like still there and you need us to come, and the guy, the rescuer, on the other ship, sees the ship explode like bazooka grenades I mean exploding over the horizon and all he goes is well, that's one hell of a flare as soon as I saw that scene I was like that is a razor glass type that the lie.
Captain:I mean the fact that you're making me laugh like out loud it was. It was actually. It was really funny. That line was really good um so yeah, oh yeah, those are probably probably where I would go. You just have steve, just yeah it was.
Wilson:Yeah, it's a reminder for myself, but mine was like so we know that squeaky was taken over by, like the robots. I just I thought it was so funny that, um so, when squeaky, as an ant or cyborg, was like chasing after them, he was like punching these walls. He like breaks through this steel wall and like starts to crawl through and he, like all android like looks up, breaks through this steel wall and starts to crawl through and all android-like looks up, and the first thing he says after peeping through the wall is Steve. It just felt so random.
Captain:I think I do know what you're talking about. Yeah, I don't know if that was like some of his brain is still working or the robot's like pretending to be him, or something. But, yeah, it was weird. Yeah, I would recommend this to me. I don't care.
Wilson:Yeah, it's a fun ride.
Captain:I liked it yeah that's, that's, yeah, yep, yep, yep um I don't know if you have anything else, but I know what we're doing next week I am.
Wilson:That's all I have for this one do you want to know?
Captain:next week we're doing I do we're doing a nocturne, which is one of those um welcome to blumhouse series, which we did one a while ago oh, okay, I want. I'm excited to unpack that because I did not realize it was a welcome to blumhouse, damn um, okay, well, yeah, um, do you you know I could have some advice for me based on um my virus ship?
Wilson:alien robot movie so what like if you were on a virus ship, how to survive, or like oh, okay, okay yeah, we're going for it um I think I could do that.
Captain:Yeah, I'm jamie lee curtis you were jamie lee curtis.
Wilson:you were trying to survive a alien virus infected ship. Yeah, I kind of think you're fucked. I don't know what to tell you.
Captain:Just kill myself is what your advice is. Just make sure it doesn't get beyond the ship.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:Okay.
Wilson:That's a good answer, okay.