The RedRum Podcast
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The RedRum Podcast
Night Swim
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The film discussion begins around 23:50.
Ever wondered how a sorority maze, a mischievous imp, and a citrusy Florida seltzer could possibly be connected? Join us on this whimsical journey as we unravel quirky movie titles and unravel the flavors of intriguing beverages. We chat about the bizarre plot twists in films like "Crimes of the Future" and "Stop Motion," all while pondering the magical influence of lighting on drink appearances. From blood orange drinks to Kona beer and the holiday classic eggnog, our taste buds take center stage in this playful exploration of flavors.
James Cameron's iconic film "The Abyss" gets a fresh look as we dive into its remastered visuals and unexpected narratives, including a surprise Atlantis society and a Navy SEAL's wild descent into madness. Our conversation is enriched with behind-the-scenes tales of Ed Harris nearly drowning on set and the real-life experimentation with oxygenated liquid. We also reflect on the film's impressive visual effects and the intricate connections to other cinematic works, tying it all together with our favorite movie trivia and anecdotes.
And if haunted pools are your thing, our analysis of the 2024 horror film "Night Swim" will keep you on the edge of your seat. From the eerie happenings around a murky pool to the fate of Ray Waller and his family, the film's ghostly waters offer plenty to ponder. We humorously critique the family's puzzling decisions, discuss the film's cinematography, and even share some personal poolside tales. Wrapping up with our thoughts on "Glass" and its peculiar moments, we leave you with a teaser for our upcoming episode on "I Dropped the Devil," just in time for the holidays. Tune in for a journey through cinematic wonders and delightful drink debates!
the slime ball, no, the sorority maze. Sorority maze and the slime ball bowl-a-rama. I mean, we are not. I can't.
Wilson:That's fine.
Captain:That is fine. I mean, I just, it sounds really bad.
Wilson:I mean it's probably terrible. I've never heard of it in my life before.
Captain:It says that sorority boss babs. Why does it say babs and not babes? Order pledges to steal the bowling trophy, but they drop it and free an imp.
Wilson:Interesting Okay.
Captain:But besides that, I think next season will be fun. There's some movies on there that I have been interested in seeing.
Wilson:I'm very excited for Crimes of the Future.
Captain:Crimes of the Future.
Wilson:I hope that's good.
Captain:I'm really excited for Stop Motion.
Wilson:I don't know that one oh anyway, that's for later.
Captain:Okay, I wanted to talk to you. Well, I guess I should say I don't know.
Wilson:Oh, you're sipping on something, blood orange well, it's just, I think it's the lighting.
Captain:Yeah, that's oh how come your lighting always does that?
Wilson:I don't know. It's at a, it's at a warm light right now and I guess it just I mean I can make it a white light don't sound so excited um what is it.
Captain:Is it a kona?
Wilson:it is a kona oh I said I was gonna do a fun one and I forgot. Well, actually I didn't.
Captain:I haven't finished this from watching the movie you can sprinkle some cinnamon in it and it could be Christmas.
Wilson:Actually cinnamon in. It would probably be like kind of good.
Captain:Really it would be a Christmas beer.
Wilson:I mean, it would probably just be, you know, like a lolly beer.
Captain:Wait, what else do they put, oh, peppermint. What else do they put in christmas drinks peppermint, oh, eggnog, I guess.
Wilson:How about a cone of eggnog? Oh, I don't like eggnog, I don't like eggnog either.
Captain:I don't know what the big deal is.
Wilson:I don't know why people I don't know, it's just like and I don't want to get drunk on that oh it sounds very milky and eggy.
Captain:Yeah, it is um well, hold on. Oh, yeah, you, so it's not fun.
Wilson:That's what you're saying wait, what's not fun, oh, eggnog yeah, no, your drink. You said you were gonna do a fun one yeah, uh, I I haven't finished this since the movie, so I was going to have a fun one out, but I haven't gotten there yet.
Captain:Well, I'm having Okay, I don't know what a yuzu is. Do you know what that is? But I'm having a Florida seltzer, but it's an orange yuzu. It looks like so it's a orange yuzu.
Wilson:uh, it looks like, so it's a citrus.
Captain:Okay, it looks like an orange that like a mandarin tangerine orange, like in that family you're saying um, yes, it is a subspecies of a mandarin orange and uh, can't say this.
Wilson:I was struggling with yuzu, so and a chong popeda, a chong I don't know.
Captain:I shouldn't have asked Japanese cuisine. Oh my gosh, I see what word you're trying to say. I'm not even gonna I, I don't know.
Wilson:No, no, no, but if you really want to make it super simple, it sounds like it's just a mix between a lemon and an orange.
Captain:I could see that it says it's like a bitter grapefruit.
Wilson:Oh.
Captain:Well, it doesn't.
Wilson:I think it means like a more bitter grapefruit, not like a bitter grapefruit okay, I guess that's okay well, she's serving orange, so okay, so it's good, yeah, okay it almost reminds me of an orange crush, honestly well, now you're like selling me one I mean, I feel like I've already sold florida seltzer a zillion times, so, but this is. I mean you advertised it. I don't know if you sold it are you saying I'm a bad advertiser? I I mean, do you see me drinking one right now?
Captain:damn all right, just fuck me. I guess geez everyone's fine well, I like it. That's all I'm gonna say. Um, okay, I what I really wanted to get into, so I have been. I came up on a podcast like not that long ago about the abyss, the movie with like the deep sea, and it's come up multiple times and I really wanted to watch it and I've seen those tiktoks that are like um, here's all the crazy backstory to the filming of the abyss, like you know what?
Captain:I mean. So I was like fuck it, I just want to watch it, and so I watched it. And then I was like god damn. And so then I told you you have to watch it so that we can talk about it. So you've watched it.
Wilson:Yes, so I am almost fairly certain. I watched it like in my teens. But I'm also confusing it with another movie, I don't know. So anyway, I snuck in watching it this week. You liked it. Oh yes, yes, I liked it.
Captain:One thing I noticed was, I guess they remastered it because it looked really good yes, okay, you now it's in hd and I was like this maybe does not look. What is it in the 80s right? 89 I think, yeah, it does not look 30 years old, like it's no, yeah, like I can see all of their pores, like, like it's.
Captain:But I really I don't know. I guess I wasn't surprised. It wasn't the way I thought the movie was going to be, but like I wasn't expecting like a Navy SEAL to go crazy being like a big part of the movie, but it was really good.
Wilson:Oh yeah, and it's really well Like the effects look really good.
Captain:Oh yeah, and it's really well like the effects look really good, yes, and like what the monster actually visually like looks like was not what I was expecting either. And then, like I mean, I don't know if this is really spoiler. I mean, like I said, the movie is over 30 years old, but I was not expecting there to be like an Atlantis society at the end. Like I wasn't expecting that at all. Like literally watching the entire movie that was not something that even came up into my brain.
Wilson:I think the only thing I had a very vague memory in this movie and the only thing was breathing like that weird oxygen liquid. Oh my gosh, that's.
Captain:that's like all I remembered from the movie the ratty. I was so nervous for the ratty but honestly I I like looked it up early in the movie, like because on the website does the dog die it? It like mentions like if pets and like everyone was like no rat survives and I was like and that was like an actual like, like it looked like a wistar, like like a laboratory, like a white lab rat, like I was kind of surprised um I actually found hot goss related to that rat oh, is it bad no well, it doesn't involve death or anything.
Captain:Okay, yeah, good, do you want to hear it?
Wilson:Yes, Okay, so there's actually a lot of good hot costs I wanted to cover, but I might have to cut this part. I just need to find where I read it.
Captain:There's probably mountains of stuff about the abyss.
Wilson:honestly, oh my gosh, they're like I.
Captain:I don't know if they were actually making one, but I thought they were thinking about making a documentary, just about the filming, because I believe that I do remember that they said steven spielberg, almost wait. Yeah right, the director right, james cameron, sorry james cameron. I was like that doesn't sound right.
Wilson:James cameron almost died and then the main character guy almost died, yeah, while filming yes, um, okay, I found the hot goss so, uh, that was like a, that oxygenated juice was actually, like it was real. Um, they like worked with duke university doctors, to use it correctly. So that scene where they tested on the rat, they were actually doing that on the rat? Yes, and it said. In that scene they cut away to the actor's faces while the rat's adjusting and that's because while the rat was panicking it pooped in the water.
Wilson:So they didn't show that, but yeah, yeah, they actually did that to. The rat was panicking it like pooped in the water, so they like didn't show that, um, but yeah yeah, they like actually did that to the rat.
Captain:Oh my god, there's no way that would be approved to happen like today. I I don't know if this is true, but I did read one thing about the rat when I was on the that website. I think that um steven and oh my god, not james cameron took the rat when I was on the that website. I think that um Steven, and oh my God not to James Cameron took the rat as a pet for like after when it was when they were done filming.
Wilson:I don't know if that was true, but uh, if that's part of the hot costs, I have not gotten that far yet, so I don't know. Um, do you want to hear some other hot?
Captain:Yes, um, do you want to hear some other hot guys? Yes, I do want to hear other hot guys. I am oh sorry, um, there was one other thing I wanted to say about the movie. Um, I can't remember, um, the guy, the main guy ed harris yes, I was like, didn't we just talk about him because he was in west? He's the westworld guy, yeah yeah, yeah um, and we like just talked about him because he's the katja plays his daughter in westworld, I was like, wow, it's like weirdly all circling yeah, it's so weird when that happens okay, what other hot goss do you have?
Wilson:This is a quick one. Ed Harris apparently punched James Cameron in the face after James Cameron kept filming while Ed Harris was nearly drowning.
Captain:Oh my gosh.
Wilson:Most of the scenes did not have stunt people, so if there are any scenes with the actors like you know, like kind of drowning or something like that, like those are all the actors. Um, all the cast and crew had like nicknames for the movie but they all had terrible experiences like uh, one of them, ed harris, apparently like pulled over one day while he's driving home, just bursting in the tears, crying like oh my gosh the main actress, um, had like a physical and emotional breakdown at one point and I think, oh, I also read that ed harris refuses to talk about this movie ptsd whoa yeah
Captain:yeah, like after several near drownings, like james cameron almost drowned in this movie I did read that part um that he like had weights that were weighing him down so he could study the camera underwater.
Wilson:And then, like something happened where they got stuck on him and he couldn't get back up yeah, he had like less oxygen than he thought and then, like the guy that was supposed to help him, thought he was just having a panic attack and not drowning, I don't know. So apparently two people got fired. Uh, that day. Whoa, that's crazy the assistant director, I believe, and the diver that was there to assist him yeah, so did all these people.
Captain:I guess they're not in scuba, are? They're not actually in scuba gear, like a lot of the movie they're in, like those suits, but I don't think they're actually scuba-ing, right, or are they?
Wilson:well, I think they are actually like they. Um, if I read it correctly, where they filmed was a giant like old nuclear reactor?
Captain:yeah, it was an empty tank that they filled with water like it was, isn't it like the world's largest, like artificial lake or some shit like that?
Wilson:yeah, like water set yeah um, yeah, so like a lot of that was legit filmed underwater. Um, I did see that, uh, the actors had to put like vaseline or something in their hair to protect their um hair from because there's so much chlorine, to keep the water clean, uh, to protect it from getting like white didn't she say that when you did swimming in high school that your hair was like crispy?
Captain:uh, yes, it was like straw and it turned like several shades lighter oh yeah, I mean, I guess it's better than like giardia or whatever that would be in water.
Wilson:Yeah, I mean I will happily take the crispy hair but um, yeah it just.
Captain:I really did like the movie. Not what I was expecting at the end with the ending. Um not, I wasn't expecting the navy seal either, like while we were watching it. I don't know anything about navy seals, I don't know if you do but, while we were watching it, um, jay was telling me that like yeah, navy seals are supposed to be trained killers. I don't know if that's true, but he said that Navy SEAL training has been known to just. The training itself kills people.
Wilson:Damn.
Captain:I didn't know that. I don't know these things, but if you say so. So when they portray an ABC in the movie who's like down to fucking clown, I guess that's realistic.
Wilson:Yeah, I guess. So Well, not really related to that, but it did remind me. Did you notice how many well-known actors are in this movie? But they're like little babies basically.
Captain:I did recognize a bunch of people. One of the guys was like I was like, oh yeah, I see him everywhere. The guy that doesn't really go underwater.
Wilson:He's part of the rescue team. Well, Roland from Sch shits creek was in it.
Captain:Oh that's, is that? Yes, I think that's okay.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, yeah but there were a couple other people that you just you see in everything man, the pictures that google has for these people.
Captain:I'm like I don't recognize any of these people the their imdb pictures are garbage.
Wilson:Like who cropped these.
Captain:Yeah, I really just recognized Ed Harris and Chris Elliott. There's a fuck ton of people in the city. I will say there are a lot, but yeah, it was good. I would recommend. Um, I can't imagine how tough it is to film underwater 30 years ago, because they even talked about it in the movie we're about to review it that it's tough yeah, I wouldn't.
Wilson:I mean, I'm not an actor and I'm not at all close to this, but I would not have. I feel like I would not have done this movie.
Captain:I'd be like, absolutely not um, okay, I looked at navy seals and they say that. Um, it's a 24-week training course for basic conditioning and it includes a grueling five-day period called hell week, where candidates must run over 200 miles with only four hours of sleep.
Wilson:Yikes. I'm guessing they have to like survive on their own in the wilderness too.
Captain:Yeah, I mean there's other stuff. There's 18 months of specialized training and on-the-job training after that and it says it's considered the most difficult training regimen in the US military physically and mentally.
Wilson:I mean I guess they need it. I would be curious to read about that sometime. I don't know how much they say about it, but that's something.
Captain:I'd watch a documentary on it says only a quarter of the candidates actually make it through that hell week the others die or they just drop out I would assume they drop out if we were killing that many people. I think, I think, I think we would know about it I don't know. You said, people die I don't know, that's what I was told. Uh, all right, who knows, that might just be a um, oh no, somebody did die.
Captain:Oh no, somebody did die in 2022 oh he got that pneumonia after completing an underwater seal program. Part of the the hell week um underwater part there's an underwater part I mean they're seals. Oh, and then, in 2023, another seal died from a parachute training accident. I guess people do die, okay.
Wilson:Well, anyway, that'll never be me on to better things um okay, so, um yeah, I think this is good, though, james cameron, he knows what he's doing I bet they don't talk to like I wouldn't be surprised if that cast doesn't talk to him ever again. Uh, probably has not probably not.
Captain:Um, I I did see that um, james cameron, supposedly the movie the abyss. The one one thing I did see is that, um, he, that story that he that the movie's based on is, is based on a short story that he wrote when he was 17 oh wow, yeah and then they like expanded the storylines of the cast, basically, and you know, have money but um, yeah, it was like one of his first stories he ever wrote.
Captain:Damn I know it was like fuck me, uh why he fucking loves water he does, he really does like I mean, come on, like titanic, the abyss um um, I I know I've heard the avatar thing um that he waited to make avatar 2 until, like, he was expecting movie technology to get better. So he like waited to make avatar 2 until he felt it was good enough I think I heard that too yeah I wish I would have.
Wilson:I mean, I don't know what I would have done differently, but I wish I would have known that when I saw the first one and not expect it like two to three years later.
Captain:Yeah, he's a little tight about his work. Okay, are you ready?
Wilson:I am ready. I was just looking up pictures of the, the abandoned set from this movie. Like you can still see the rig a little bit oh, where is it? Um.
Captain:I think I saw it was south carolina oh, let's pop over yeah, I mean, I feel like you can't actually go in there, but I don't want to go like in, but I would like to stand on the edge it.
Wilson:Well, you'd'd have to. Yeah, I don't know. When you see the picture, it'd be hard. Well, I don't know.
Captain:Oh Damn, that is like a legit abandoned rig. We don't want to go. We could probably go.
Wilson:I mean if we're allowed to actually look up close.
Captain:I wonder they don't do tours? I feel like they should do tours.
Wilson:I mean, maybe I feel like you don't agree with anything I'm saying.
Captain:If we can, do tours, I will go on a tour. Okay, I feel like you're saying that because you know that they don't do tours. Abyss set, it might be one of those like I can't remember what those are called where you can like it's not like verbo, but it's like um, oh, what is that? Called when they do like those little tootsie tours I don't know.
Wilson:I did watch a documentary for somebody that turned an old missile silo into an airbnb, which is semi-related jesus, is it good?
Captain:it's actually a really fascinating documentary films the entire renovation process that sounds so fucking specific that I don't know how they made a whole documentary about it oh, it's fascinating what's it called?
Wilson:um, I think it's called the titan project where's the airbnb now?
Captain:like where is it? Uh why are you watching this?
Wilson:I somehow I got like I don't know. I saw like a reddit article, I think, and then it's just I don't know okay, the Titan Project.
Captain:when I type that in brings me up crazy other things, like a rogue government physicist recovers an unknown element of undisclosed properties.
Wilson:Okay, I found it. It's the. You could actually run it on Airbnb.
Captain:Why Don't do that to me? Why are you telling me to lower my hand? Wait what oh, did you not do that? No looks like you're done talking, so we'll lower your hand okay, I didn't do it um it's in arkansas arkansas yeah, um, it's's the Titan II nuclear missile silo. Damn. This looks like kind of good.
Wilson:Yeah, so you should watch the YouTube I wasn't expecting this to look nice.
Captain:Oh, you have to go up a sterile staircase, though.
Wilson:Yeah, like it starts off from the beginning, where he, like I guess, spies it and the thing's completely flooded and how do you buy it, though, like how are you buying that?
Captain:how do you just buy that as like regular commercial property?
Wilson:I, I couldn't tell you, could not tell you um, but yeah, there's like 25 episodes or something did you?
Captain:oh, um, okay, I'm looking at the airbnb um but like it's legit, only two bedrooms I'm sorry oh, it's a YouTube documentary, that's a little different.
Wilson:Yeah sorry, oh my god, oh my god it's playing.
Captain:Oh my god, oh my god oh my god, oh my god no.
Wilson:Well, if you get curious, check it out. I sent you the link to the actual series. It's pretty interesting.
Captain:Okay.
Wilson:I don't know if I'll ever really honestly be in Arkansas. Yeah, me neither. Oh wait, Distraction Getting us back to the abyss. I did find out. It sounds like they demolished it in 2006. Sad, or 2007. If you look on Google Maps, somebody said on Reddit it's not there anymore.
Captain:Sad.
Wilson:Sorry.
Captain:Well, now we can go to a torrent and it'll just be like a random land pile look at this lake um, okay, well, anyway, that's what I wanted to talk about. It's been a long time. You're ready. You're ready to hop in here? I'm ready to hop in here okay, welcome to the 162nd episode of the Red Run Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two, and I'm Captain.
Wilson:And I'm Wilson.
Captain:And this week we're reviewing the 2024 American Supernatural Horror film Night Swim Night Swim oh my gosh, night swim. Okay, um, it's based on a 2014 short by the same director. Writer. All that I don't. I don't know. I don't know anyone's ever watched a short. I don't even know the shorts like on youtube or short. I don't even know if the short's on YouTube or whatever. I wonder if the short is better? Probably, but the person that made it, Bryce McGuire.
Wilson:He's not even clickable on Wikipedia, but he wrote the short and then got some um people to sign on and then, um you know, he got it to take off um like james wan and jason.
Captain:Yeah, so they like underwrote. I don't know what under banner means, but like their producers under banner I my my guess could be wrong.
Wilson:It's just that the production studios made it like it's a blumhouse movie or whatever but james wan doesn't does. He doesn't have his own production company, right um, I don't know, it kind of seems like he would yeah, he's great, he's so fun I. I feel like some of his movies are misses, but they have really cool concepts I feel like james wan has more hits than blum blum can be real weird, but the ones that the ones that do good.
Captain:I love room 104, like I love that series um and uh, creep, oh great series um. I can't remember if you watched creep or not. I know that I raved to you before about it wait, is that the one with mark duplass?
Wilson:yeah, it's not a blumhouse, no um I think we did that for a podcast movie.
Captain:We actually did do it okay. I know I watched it not for a podcast, so that's why I wasn't sure. Um, anyway, that's not the point.
Wilson:Oh, he does have a production studio.
Captain:It's atomic monster oh, okay, that was the two that started the movie it was one. Oh, okay.
Wilson:Annabelle Lights Out. Oh, the Curse of La Llorona did that too.
Captain:There's a bunch of other ones Is that the spinning eggs on the nips?
Wilson:Yes, it is?
Captain:Yes, it is. But anyway, night Swim, yes, bryce McGuire, james James Wan, jason Blum, um, the. There's also apparently, um, oh, I thought there was a second. Oh, rod Blackhurst, um, also helped write the short. Okay, anyway, fuck them, you know what I'm saying. Okay, so we have Wyatt Russell, who plays Ray Waller in this movie. He's known for his roles in Overlord Never seen that. John Walker in the Falcon and Winter Shoulder series that's where I know him from, but I did look up. He also was like a semi league. I don't know major league, I don't know anything about ice hockey, but he was an ice hockey player which he kind of gives those vibes. And then something else is he's a nepo baby, right, his parents are kurt russell and goldie hahn, kate hud, half-sister, so he's all up in there.
Wilson:He is.
Captain:I can kind of see it on his face.
Wilson:I didn't realize Kate Hudson was not both Kurt Russell's and Goldie Hawn's kid.
Captain:I don't, that's Wikipedia, but I don't. Okay, I know the names, kurt russell and goldie hahn, but if you like, put those pictures in a pile of pictures.
Wilson:I don't know if I can pick those two up out I think you could pick out kurt russell, for sure, maybe goldie hahn I feel like you have a lot of faith in me.
Captain:Um, okay, and then, uh, carrie corden nope, condon plays eve waller in this movie. So that's um, the husband and wife, those two. And eve waller is an oscar-nominated actress for her role in the banshees of oh no it's.
Wilson:Can I help you with that?
Captain:one.
Wilson:Yeah, I heard it in a shir in a shiren and I only know that because I heard it.
Captain:I watched the awards, so I heard oh, I thought, did you not watch the simi for some reason? I thought you did uh, no, I haven't the banshees of in a shiren yeah do you know what it's about? Uh, no, I mean she's oscar nommed, but what I really know her from is that she is kaylee's mom in better call saul, so she's the daughter-in-law to mike right I was like oh, I kind of recognize her face. And then, um, she's also the voice of iron man's suit in all of his tech.
Wilson:Um, I guess that's after the newer ones.
Captain:I don't know that yeah, what is it called, oh man? The other one no, the, it's an acronym is her character's name and it's like affinity or after, or atlas or something atlas sounds familiar it's like marvel voice girly pop tech please tell me you typed it I started to and then I stopped because I said that's not gonna work um eve condon. No, it's carrie condon oh friday friday was that close? I said after an atlas, yeah, I'll say that's close.
Wilson:I mean I also said that it sounded familiar, so I'm also super wrong um, I don't really like friday well I feel like they could.
Captain:They could have more fun with it, but whatever like saturday yeah, yeah, like thursday, thursday, um okay, and then we have oh, is that emily?
Wilson:you know, I don't know ho feral I thought you were trying a different pronunciation of Emily.
Captain:No.
Wilson:Definitely not it.
Captain:I'm probably butchering. Emily Ho Farrell is Izzy Waller in this, and she is mostly known for Hunger Games, the Ballad, songbirds and Snakes. What the fuck is that? Is that all one title?
Wilson:The Ballad of no the. Hunger Games, the Ballad of songbirds and snakes well, yeah, like I think it's like the next book in the series or whatever. Like, have you ever have you watched any hunger games? Yeah, well, I think that one like just came out yeah, I think they all have their little second name, except maybe the first one subtitle yeah, whatever it's not what it's called like.
Wilson:It's a sub I don't know if that would that count as a sub. I don't know, I couldn't tell you um, oh, okay, well, there's another book coming out.
Captain:I was gonna say I'm looking, that's the longest because it's the hunger games, catching fire, mocking jay, like okay, those make sense. And then they said well, get ready, because it's the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. I'm like can you what happened to the two syllables, two or three, three syllables.
Wilson:Get her Jade, yeah, I don't.
Captain:Sunrise on the Weeping is the next one coming out, anyway. And then, lastly, we gavin warren, who plays elliot, and he's known for his role in the fear of the walking dead, which, um, I was told I should start watching, because I just gave up on the walking dead, because I got to the really bad seasons and I never kept going yeah, I, I never even started for the walking dead because by that point I was burnt out from Walking Dead.
Wilson:I was like I'm good.
Captain:Apparently Fear. The Walking Dead has just as good reviews.
Wilson:I feel like that one got canceled right.
Captain:I don't know.
Wilson:Or no.
Captain:I got no ideas. I like that ChatGBT decided to say I've got a couple drinks and like dry humor is our is. Is that our gist? Oh is that? Did you put that, or like?
Wilson:so after I asked chat GBT to get the synopsis for the regular script, he was like, let me just try putting in the you know this prompt, but say like um. What did he say? Like, give me the plot as if we're podcasting while drinking with.
Captain:Um, like dry humor oh and it popped up with this uh I got a couple drinks and, like dry humor, it sounds like a country song.
Wilson:That's how I'm hearing it but like the, that first paragraph is actually pretty fun okay, you want me to yeah, yeah I feel like this doesn't sound like me, oh well, you don't have to sound like a hillbilly
Captain:just read it as I would read it, yeah, okay, all right, gather around horror fans and grab yourself a drink or two, because we're diving into this haunted water of night. Swim, a little gem from 2024, where even the pool is out to get you. I don't know about you, but I like my summer swim with a side of existential dread. Here's a rundown on the Backyard Horror Show, and let me just say it's as refreshing as a shot of whiskey chased by a ghost story. Oh my God, something about that is so cheesy.
Wilson:It was, but it was fun.
Captain:Okay, I'm going to, we're gonna mix, we're gonna mix it, okay. So the movie starts out in the summer of 1992. Oh my gosh, not all the 90s, okay, anyway. There's this little girl, rebecca. Rebecca, she um wakes up in the middle of the night to a toy, scooting around in a pool by herself, or by itself, I guess terrible idea it's her sick brother's toy that I guess he was missing.
Captain:So she tries to get out of the pool with a pool net. Is that what that's called a pool net, and that doesn't sound right. Is it a pool?
Wilson:net. Um, uh, yeah, I don't know what the yeah, I don't, what does that work? Uh, yeah, like a the, the net, the thing on the pole where you like a pool net cleaning the pool a pool.
Captain:Yeah, just something about that doesn't sound right I know right, okay, anyway, I'm gonna yell at myself later on when I listen to this. But she is trying to fish it out with one of those nets and she's got these like cute little bunny slippers on Side note, those slippers look so comfy. I was like kind of jelly, but she gets like yanked into the pool with something grabbing the other side of the net as she's holding it and she okay. The same sequence happens every time someone goes in a pool where, like they're drowning under the water, they see a figure looking at them from the surface and like so for her it looks like her mom and she gets to the surface again but there's nobody actually there and then the lights flicker until they flicker off and then I guess she gets dragged down again or something to the darkness yeah but that's just like kind of playing with her, but like in a I'm trying to kill you sort of way in like a cutesy, possessed kind of way.
Captain:Yeah, um, it's it, but it's like I said, it's the same sequence for everybody. So I just, you know, be prepared um this. She ends up becoming a permanent member of the coronated underworld underworld and then it fast forwards to present day and we have our new homeowners. It is Ray Waller and his wife and his two kids, and he is a, I guess, famous MLB third baseman, but he has MS. So he, I don't know know, retired or he's not retired, I don't know what you yeah, I mean he probably just had to step down.
Captain:And then I mean yeah, he's like walking with a cane. Um, and I don't really know you brought this point up that's like what the fuck was their plan? Because they went from looking for rental houses to like suddenly deciding to buy a cheap house that was a fixer-upper, but he's dealing with like a serious illness. So it's like how are you doing that? I don't know, it was confusing, like I agree.
Captain:Yeah, I don't understand their like backstories or like something doesn't really make sense it doesn't line up, um, but they do decide to buy this house and it has this like pool, that's like, um, you know, all nasty in the back, um, and even before they buy the house, on the tour the dad falls into the pool fishing out like a nasty old baseball, because he is baseball, um, and he like gets wrapped up in plastic and it's like a whole thing and he's like people die that way.
Wilson:I mean I guess that's why it's in the movie. But your eye roll like die getting wrapped in plastic um of like I've heard the dangers of um pool covers and people falling on them and then, like the water closes in around it and you're basically just trapped in a plastic bag.
Captain:No, that makes sense. I didn't see it because I don't think I was even born yet. Maybe I was, I don't know. But my grandparents had a pool at their house many, many years ago and supposedly a deer walked on their pull cover and fell in, and then they had to, like you know, clear out the deer carcass.
Captain:yeah, yeah, but I think they got a hard cover after that yeah, I can see why um that's because that's like a whole thing and then, yeah, I don't even know how they I mean, you'd have to like, I don't even know how you deal with that because, like, I feel like a deer, even a small deer is like fucking heavy if it's an adult yeah but anyway, not the point.
Captain:Um, but this pool didn't initially have like a real cover which we'll get into. They buy a real cover, um, but the both of these parents are like so gross. Like mom is picking up bugs out of the pool. I'm like get your hands out of there yeah, this pool that's been abandoned.
Wilson:For what do we think?
Captain:like 20 years they said it hasn't been used in 15 years yeah, and she's just reaching in.
Wilson:No gloves, just pure nasties.
Captain:She's to save a cricket, yeah to save a fucking cricket, like girl. And then after that they clear out the pool like all family hands on deck is scrubbing the pool.
Wilson:No gloves like no, and the dad's like reaching his arm, like our arm, deep into this, like the drainage tube in the bottom.
Captain:It's like and then I also don't get this. Yeah, because then he gets cut on something, of course, and he's bleeding everywhere. Um, but so then they decide to call an expert, like after after an injury, and I still don't understand. He said that the pool is a natural filling, like well water, like I swear that's what he said, like it's from it was.
Wilson:I think he said it's a like a natural spring like a spring.
Captain:Is that like good, though? Like, is that like well, besides the possession, like in a real, in a real one? Like is that safe um?
Wilson:I don't. I don't know like I would still want to treat it, but like the pool guy made it sound like you can't really treat it because it's just constantly coming in with new spring water yeah, and he said that like it's weird to see one of these like I.
Captain:I don't know, it doesn't sound. I guess you'd have to live really close to a natural spring for you to have a natural spring water pool. So maybe that's why you don't see a lot of them. But I don't know, it doesn't sound. Just give me a chlorinated pool, please.
Wilson:Yeah, I'd be like, can we not do this?
Captain:Like I don't want the spring, I don't want yeah, I don't need the spring.
Wilson:I think I'm gonna be okay, I would rather go to an expert place that has a natural spring and not like my fucking backyard oh yeah, oh yeah so I mean, I guess, if you're buying a house and it's a pool and like you might think, oh well, somebody probably checked this to make sure it was fine I guess, um, but I think I don't even know maybe the family gets placed in the pool one day or whatever.
Captain:But, um, the mom goes on a night swim, like right after the pool is good to go, um, and she has the same creepy sequence, her, she sees, uh, the out, like she sees somebody that looks like her husband standing outside of the pool at the surface, and then, when she gets to the surface, he's not there and the lights are flickering.
Wilson:Um, and then she, they have the cider, the cat that is walking around the pool as well, and goes missing and like hissing at the water and it's like, okay, an animal is looking at something like threateningly, like okay, it's something's haunted, or whatever, come on.
Captain:Yeah, have you never watched a horror movie? Right? Um, but I will say that mom like scuttles out of the pool so fucking fast and those lights are flashing.
Captain:She's like nope oh yeah, I wouldn't swim in a dark pool yeah, as soon as, as soon, like if a toy is moving around in a pool by itself, I'm just not going in there. I'm just. I mean, I've night swam before in a pool, but it was like you know an Airbnb or something when it's like, what are they going to kill me? I'll take all the high insurance money, please, anyway, yeah, so she like is already, already, she's like big nervous about the pool.
Wilson:Um, she doesn't want her son swimming in the pool by himself, but um, just fairies like eight or something yeah, is he.
Captain:I thought he was in middle school I don't know when do you get to middle school?
Captain:11 uh 11 or 12 yeah, yeah, that sounds right like sixth grade yeah, um, yeah, but obviously so I will say the dad is I should back up the dad is um, like healing his ms through supposed water therapy that he's doing in this pool, but you know, we find out the pool is a little bit more magic-y than just water therapy. That he's doing in this pool, but you know, we find out the pool is a little bit more magic-y than just water therapy. But, like he goes through all these tests at the doctors and the doctor shook, she's like I don't understand, but it's like looks like your MS is improving, like they thought it was getting worse and then they did all these tests and she was like just kidding. And so now he's like really focused on his health and instead of like swimming with his son, he tells him like I'll be there in a minute and he lets his swim, his son swim by himself, um, which is like bad news bears.
Captain:But this is the first time that we see like a real figure in the pool, um, where he hears, um, a little girl say hello, I'm looking for my mom, and she even says her whole name. She's like I'm rebecca summers, which I feel like I don't know. I feel like usually in horror movies. You don't hear somebody like say like who I am and why I'm here oh yeah, they never explain who they are and, like, what their intentions are she's like hey, it's me, I lived here I died in the water.
Wilson:Uh, stay out of it I'm looking for my mom.
Captain:Have you seen her? Yeah, um, but I think the scene and this is the same one from the trailer where you see like an arm covered in hair, grab him, um, and like try to yank him into what the fuck is that hole on the side of a pool called I could not think of what that was called the what the holes that are on the side of the pool that catch shit oh uh, hole catchers, I don't know what are those called when I was typing filter some shit when I was typing my notes I was like what the fuck are those called?
Wilson:Pool holes.
Captain:There's man. It's like neither one of us have ever seen a pool before. We sound like we're fucking aliens and we're trying to explain a pool. We're actually both AI generated. I don't know. I'm like holes on the side of the pool. What the fuck are those called? That's not helping Skimmers. Is that sound? Is it a skimmer?
Wilson:I don't know. It's the thing that collects the shit in your pool, like on the side of the pool.
Captain:It's like a filter. Oh, when I'm looking at things, these are not the things I'm looking for. I think it's a skimmer that sounds good, and if it's wrong, I'm wrong is that not the name for the thing we were trying to find earlier? Probably. I think you're right. I don't know, should I type in skimmer versus skimmer and see if they're both called skimmer sure, actually, when I googled it it came up with both of those things.
Wilson:It came up with the pole thing we were talking about and the thing that's in the world.
Captain:I swear, I've been in a pool before. I know it doesn't sound like it, but um, anyway, he the. You see. You finally see something. Grab him and you see, through the skimmer slit, a pair of eyes and half of a face, and it's all black. It's like a black-covered body demon-looking thing.
Wilson:Yeah, I think they tried to make this an iconic monster in Insidious Like no, this is a potato pool guy.
Captain:they tried I will say later on we see a full yeah. So that happens with elliot and they're like, oh, elliot, elliot's like a sad, lonely kid and we just need to throw him a party and he just needs to play baseball, like that's literally his, his parents, uh, uh response um, so they, what do they go to? They do swimming practice and, um, you do get to see that elliot's like kind of mid to bad, but uh, ray gets to crack some baseballs and one of them like literally shoots out into outer space like he hits one and he's like, damn, I got my mojo back because of all this supposed water therapy.
Captain:Um, so like he's benefiting from the pool while the pool has having all these creepy things happening in it and I I do remember you were like where how is this pool like doing good things and bad things? Like how are they going to explain that? Um, so then izzy, the older sister, we see her have her pool experience, so she has her little boyfriend over and they do a night swim as well and, yeah, she gets grabbed by this like bloated potato monster, like you said, like he looks like a mushy like.
Captain:It's kind of like the michelin man from ghostbusters, but all black and buggy eyes so like a cooked marshmallow version of the michelin man yeah, and like slightly larger than a regular human and it's grabbing her. It does look kind of stupid. I mean there's no way around it.
Wilson:I mean yeah it's not really even scare. I mean, obviously it would scare me if I saw that in the pool, but like it's not as threatening as other horror monsters yeah it's.
Captain:It's like they're trying to do creepy, but they're trying to be like I'm different and it's just kind of like a mushy man.
Captain:But, like half cartoony, I don't know, but she's terrified, like it grabs her. Her and this boy are playing Marco Polo, and then obviously she's doing Marco and the monster is doing Polo, and then she gets all wiggly wagged in the pool. So she's scared after that, doesn't want to go in the pool. But they've already set up this pool party at their house. So Elliot's on a sad little, lonely boy. He doesn't even want to get in the pool anymore, neither does Izzy really. But they invite everybody else over here and this is kind of where things go off the rails, like um, the mom is talking to the realtor because the realtor comes and the realtor's like hey, I think she said I don't know who started it, I don't know if Eve started it, but she was like what happened in this house? Like why was?
Captain:this pool not used before. And Eve is like you know, just tell me like what's going on. And the realtor cause the realtor doesn't want to tell her. She finally says well, you just seem like you're really enjoying the house. And I found this out like she was like, but it does seem like there might be alleged rumors of a little girl drowning here, but like I don't know. And then Eve was like is her name Rebecca? Which like kind of freaks the realtor out, but that's what she knows. Her son said to her when he said that there was like some girl calling him in the pool. So yeah, that's some backstory that we get from that. But at the same, around the same time, uh, what's his name? Ray? Uh, decides that he like wants to play chicken and he can't find his son because Elliot is literally not going to get in the pool.
Captain:Like he's in the house, in his bedroom, um, and he decides to play chicken with somebody else's son, which I feel like is really weird, like that's that kid is like looks like he's like two years older than Elliot, like he's probably like 14, and then he's getting on some random guy's shoulders, like I don't know Maybe I grew up, I don't know I feel like adults should not be touching random kids like in any capacity. Maybe I shouldn't be reading that far into it, but like isn't that weird.
Wilson:It's still kind of weird.
Captain:It's still kind of weird, like if you were 14, would you get on like a loosely related, like like a loose friend father's shoulders?
Wilson:yeah, I don't know. Like, I guess, from a kid's perspective no idea, but like from anyone else of an adult age, that looks super weird yeah, it does look weird, um, so it's already unsettling just like as it is.
Captain:And then, while they're playing chicken, again it looks so dumb. But like this black smoke like swoops into like all the mucus membranes and like all of his orifices of Ray underwater. So he gets like black in the eyes and he gets like black in the veins and he's like you know, I'm on one Like it's monster time.
Wilson:Yeah, that's what he said.
Captain:Yeah, that's literally what he said. So he like, instead of like letting go of this kid that's on his shoulders, he like grabs him even harder and then, I guess, tries to drown him. But it's like.
Wilson:Yeah, I don't know what the deal with that is.
Captain:He's squeezing and then they're underwater and he won't let go. And the only way he lets go is the kid's father finally sees it's happening, jumps in and saves him.
Wilson:Well, because what's-his-face? The son was recording from the window. He went down and told his mom and I guess well, I guess separately the kid's dad did also wonder where his son was yeah, he was looking for him.
Captain:But elliot also like alarm bells his mom to tell him like something bad's happening. But yes, they both almost drowned in the water, which leads to um cops there and the the um I don't remember what the kid's name is but his mom wants him to press charge, it wants them to press charges, and the dad's like no, it's fine, like we won't press charges, but she's. But then she's like never, uh, you're like you know, never speak to us again. Like our families are not gonna be friendly, like you know yeah, I mean that's fair don't come to practice anymore.
Captain:Like all of that um. And you know eve is trying to say like well, he has ms. Like you know it attacks his nerves like that's her excuse. But I will say, if I'm an adult and I have ms and a different and a random kid's getting on my shoulders, like I'm still in the wrong, like even if I'm not a possessed demon, I'm still in the fucking wrong. Like what? Why would you do that? Um? And that was like before, like he made that decision before he was possessed.
Wilson:I will say that's true, yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Captain:He still walked down there yeah, he, he's still all of that. Um, I love how the chachi bt says the pool turns out. It's not just haunted, it's cursed classic mix-up, am I right, ladies? I'm like what? Um, I don't even know, okay, whatever, um.
Captain:So yeah, I think after that, um, the family wants to leave, right, they like want to get the fuck out there, um, because she's like you know, eve's like I've seen something, all the kids have seen something, and ray basically, um, almost like dies at the property line, like on their way out, like he doesn't want to get in the car, he wants to get back in the pool. She's like, no, we're leaving. You almost died, but then like they can't leave because he like I think it was like the property line right or like as they were getting yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wilson:He got all like black veiny, like it was. The pool was like you know, if you leave, I'll kill you um, yes, and then so, yeah, he's like in bed or whatever.
Captain:And then I think the next day is when Eve's like I'm going to do my little research. And so it says Eve Research leads her to meet with Rebecca's mom, who was like, yeah, it's an ancient spring, the whole sacrifices for wishes kind of deal. So here's the twist the pool grants something in exchange for something else, like one of those you get what you want but you're going to have to pay for it deals. And since Ray's health has been on the up, well, you can guess what the pool's planning on taking back. Um, but I feel like a normal person would not sacrifice, or would not like sacrifice their kid for like them to be healthy, to play mlb again yeah, I mean he was like possessed at that point.
Wilson:Like I think at first he was motivated because he felt better and then, once he was possessed, the pool was just like we gonna eat hungry um eve does say, or when we like watch her do her research.
Captain:Like, apparently, like dozens of people have died in this pool, like over the years and it's not just that they die, it's that they disappear around the pool. Like there's no bodies found afterwards, like right I don't know, I don't know. It just says disappears.
Wilson:I think but then I was like I don't know why they say they definitively say rebecca drowned in the pool because you have no body that's true there's like the only way that you would have no body would mean like somebody else was involved yeah, and like there.
Wilson:Yeah, sure, one of her slippers was in the pool, but I feel like at that point I would assume, oh, somebody like she ran away or somebody took her and just her shoe fell in the pool in the way, like, oh, she drowned. But I don't have any evidence she like probably died.
Captain:I drowned she like yeah probably, you know.
Captain:You know how rebecca be yeah, she's got up and left after she I will say that I don't know the if they say it in here, but um, rebecca's mom literally confesses to murder, though like she, she says um, she says like her son's health was really bad and she desperately wanted him to be healthy again. So like she, purposefully, it's like she said, like the well gives you or whatever, the spring gives you your deepest desires, but it has to take something, has to take a life to keep on giving.
Captain:And she like purposely sacrificed her daughter for her son's health. And then we cut back to like the beginning of the movie and like she locks her son inside of his room because he's trying to get out to save his sister, which is like fucking crazy that she did that.
Wilson:But she did say at this point she was already a vessel for yes, and she still is because, like yeah, goop starts leaking out of her eyes yeah, she's got the black I don't really get that yeah, I guess it possesses you forever.
Captain:I don't really know, but she's off the property and ray can't leave because I guess he didn't sacrifice something yet. I don't know. It's very confusing. They didn't think a lot. We had questions that I don't think are going to get answered. Yeah, but yeah, she's like really going through it. But her son, I will say she did get what she wanted. Her son is like this famous doctor, that's's like curing diseases and fixing people, and she has this beautiful house and it's all paid for by him. So, like winner.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:I mean she got it and then. So the wife also decides to drain the pool, which I wasn't sure, but it looks like she's draining it into the municipal sewer so when people are pulling water later on in the movie from the faucet. Is that the monster? Because Eve drained the pool in the sewer. Did you pick up on that?
Wilson:No, I just kind of assumed, like it's like. I assumed it wasn't necessarily just the water, it was like that in combination with the weird tube that leads to the spring, so like if you took water out, I mean I guess maybe it is all haunted, but I don't know, I don't know who fucking knows um.
Captain:So, whatever, she drains the pool and then, um, you know she's trying to save her kids now that she knows that this monster is going to take something. Um, so she gets home real fast, but at this point ray is already like big monster, like big scary um yeah dark figure throwing his daughter around.
Captain:Their son is drowning in the pool and like, while izzy is fighting, monster dad, uh, eve has to save elliot. And then we get like you know the big, so like I guess, when the pool's possessed and you're in it, it becomes like lake sized, it's like gigantic I don't, I don't get it it's like it's.
Captain:it looks like it's like 15 feet or I don't even know. It looks like it's like 30 feet deep and like forever wide, like you're like legit in a lake. Um, and she has to save elliot like all the way at the bottom. Um, she tries to save herself by holding up a pool, no, a hose, I know that word. So she takes one final gusp of air out of the hose, I guess, because that's what it looked like, and then she just dove for Elliot.
Wilson:Yeah, but she's under there for so long yeah no, she's taking seven minutes underwater.
Captain:Yeah, does she also get Potato man? I think she does like seven minutes underwater. Yeah, I does she also get Potato man? I think she does. I think she does.
Wilson:Yeah, she definitely. I'm pretty sure she gets. I think this is where we get most of Potato man.
Captain:Yeah, she gets a couple of people like grab at her, like the people over the years, including Potato man, but actually Rebecca is nice and shows her the way back up safely.
Wilson:But why is she the only nice one Out of?
Captain:all those other souls?
Wilson:are you saying that Rebecca's the only one that wasn't a murderer and like wants to save someone?
Captain:Yeah, I don't know, I feel like no, I couldn't tell you honestly. Was she the only like child? Child maybe.
Wilson:I guess. But what are they trying to get at like adults are just naturally pure evil well, maybe all the adults deserved it.
Captain:I don't know. Sure you're asking too many questions, but I I do like the cinematography of like I I texted in the chat. I was like, are they anything upside down? Like when you're swimming in the pool and you're like in the like contaminated, possessed water, it like flips you so like you don't know which way is up and which way is down.
Captain:And I do like the cinematography of like Rebecca is re like like equilibriizing them and like flips them back the right way to go. And I like how the camera length shows that way where it spirals.
Captain:That was fun Because we see it in the beginning of the movie a little bit, but you see it at the very first opening shot. But you really see it like the profile of everybody in this one and I do like that. So they're reoriented and then they can swim back to the surface and, um, elliot is still like, has a bunch of like black goop in him, but, um, basically his dad gets beaten with a baseball bat enough that he's like just himself, enough that he realizes that he, the pool, has to take something. So, in order to save his son, he sacrifices himself in the water. He just like walks in and goes to the abyss.
Wilson:Oh, the abyss, the abyss uh, and then he's, yeah, he disappears, and Elliot's a-okay.
Captain:Elliot is a-okay, but I mean they're not happy their dads did or disappeared.
Wilson:No, but they actually don't seem that upset either.
Captain:Well, he did just like almost kill his daughter and his wife. Like he like ripped hair out of his daughter and threw her around and then choked their mom out Like she couldn't breathe and the only way she got out of it is because izzy their daughter like beat him with a bat his baseball bat, by the way, his mlb bat yep, well, he deserved it, so I mean, yeah, possessed, yeah, um, oh, and then the movie finally ends with them filling the pool in, basically like if they moved, the cycle would just repeat itself.
Captain:because that's what happened for the last like I don't even know 12 families. So they took my advice that I wrote down before they did it, I will say and filled, the pool in?
Wilson:They sure did. They were like he wouldn't want us to give the house to somebody else well, I I mean probably, but I think he also wouldn't want somebody else to sacrifice I am glad it didn't end with them just like moving away and like leaving the pool and we see a tease of some new family moving in.
Captain:Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is giving a little bit.
Captain:It's similar to oculus, or like if there's a natural spring nearby that everything is being, uh like supplied with that water, like everything could have the possessed monster in it, then like everything yeah, the spirit, like because even when we're in um mrs woo's house, like the rebecca's mom, uh like she has that um like wishing well fountain thing in her house and it has black water coming out of it like anything that's connected to the water supply. I'm like, well, fuck, I mean I gotta get out of the system of the spring, I guess yeah I don't know what was going on there.
Wilson:I was like I was wondering if she like put the pool water in her fountain but like what? But they were still focusing a lot on like freshly. But I don't know, maybe she drinks the pool water, the spring water, every day can you drink spring water like as it is like, just if you cupped? I mean, I guess you're physically able to, but that's like I don't know if you should.
Captain:Um, what is this supposed to be our advice, this thing that they put in here?
Wilson:um it's a cautionary tale oh, I don't think we asked for advice when we put the ai in, but sometimes you could steal it deeper than you think I do like. I do like that the paragraph um the yeah right before it, when Eve makes the wise choice to fill the pool in, because once you lose your husband to a haunted pool.
Captain:Maybe it's time to switch to a nice above-ground spa, bro, or stick to the showers.
Wilson:See, some of this is fun.
Captain:She decides to stay in the house and make sure nobody else falls victim. Yeah, that's a little fun, but like I would ask it to be like more gooped and gagged, like I want I want it like more personality. If you're gonna do it like, do it all the way just flavor it up.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, maybe we'll do some tests, just to see what it can do.
Captain:Okay, okay, yeah. So some numbs the budget was about 15 mil and the box office was almost 55 mil. Wow, so they definitely made more than twice as much than they spent. I will say they did a good job of advertising for this movie, but I don't think either. One of us watched it opening weekend and then we saw the reviews were really bad, so that's why we never watched it. And then, apparently worldwide oh no, that was worldwide and then $33 million from the US and Canada and then others. Okay, it does have a 20% on rotten tomatoes.
Captain:Um, audience is 43 that's surprising, but okay about how kind they are yeah letterbox is at 1.7, bro. That's bad, that's bad that's real bad bad. Um, I don't know if you since we're talking about it do you know where you'd put this? Maybe, or do you want to wait?
Wilson:um, I did rate it oh, you already rated it. I did give it to me um, so my, my letterboxd score is a one out of five.
Captain:Uh, and does that mean it's a 10, no 20 um, yeah, actually, percentage wise I put it lower.
Wilson:I said a 14 oh my god it was not good it has like movie, like cinematic quality and I thought the idea was was interesting, but I don't like it.
Captain:I didn't like anything you don't like any other parts of it? Yeah, 43 is so kind. Where are they getting that?
Wilson:I couldn't tell you, could not tell you. Do you have a rating for?
Captain:it already. I'm trying to think, yeah, I'd probably go, like I'd say like 22 okay that sounds it, it's trying it is.
Wilson:I mean, maybe I'm being overly harsh, but you're fine, you're totally, I was up. I was upset by. I thought a lot of it was very predictable, like once you, I don't know. I think they hint at what's happening too much.
Captain:The sequences are all so similar when night swimming, like the activity of night swimming, like the sequences are all exactly the same, and then I will say, like we don't see anything. Like we see the opening scene that's scary, with Rebecca, and then we don't see anything scary, for, like I think I looked, it was like 33 minutes oh wow, like the setup with the family goes on for a really long time.
Captain:So you're just kind of sitting here being like what's the deal? Like give it to me, or like hint at it more, or I don't know they should have, I don't know you don't get like the big final, like here's the totality of the monster, like you don't ever get that.
Wilson:So yeah I think you're fine 14 22 it's not right, it's not, it's really not um, I do have some hot goose according to me bryce um.
Captain:He said that the film was um. He had some inspirational sources like poltergeist. Creature from the black lagoon. Have you ever watched that?
Wilson:no, I probably won't um jaws christine.
Captain:We did that one.
Wilson:We did.
Captain:I did like that movie, the Night of the Hunter and the Abyss Whoa, whoa, I legit I'm not even kidding so unrelated that I just happened to want to watch it. And then they said that the real life house used for the family's home in the film doesn't fully connect to the garage, so the pool can be seen from the front of the house and a facade was added to make it look like one full structure. Okay, whatever, I don't really care. Some shots did have the pool required a deeper pool, so they shot four days in a 13-foot Olympic-sized pool in Chatsworth. Where's Chatsworth? No?
Wilson:idea, I don't know.
Captain:While a blue screen was employed for some shots, the film did not rely on computer animation to generate a simulation of water. Instead of filming wet for wet or as opposed to dry for wet don't know what that means. In order to intensify the supernatural feel, Maguire and cinematographer Charlie Saroff used older and wider lenses to make the pool seem as vast as the ocean. Well, they sure did that.
Wilson:Yeah, I'll say, maybe a little bit too big.
Captain:And then, in 2018, they sold the feature-length adaptation from the short that they did in 2014 of a woman terrorized in her pool by an evil spirit, to James Wan Atomic Monster. And then oh, this is weird Wyatt's dad, kurt Russell, was a very good minor league baseball player and would have made it to the major leagues if not for an injury. I think he did fine, you know.
Wilson:He did turn out okay. I think he did A-okay.
Captain:Fucking get out of here. And then I did look up this. This is a quote from Bryce McGuire when he was doing an interview about the movie. He said Shooting in water is twice as slow, twice as expensive, twice as dangerous than shooting on land. It's a huge logistical challenge. Everything from keeping the water clear enough to have visibility, having the right flashlights to the amount of time talent could safely hold their breath required specific problem solving and strategies that you'd never think about unless you're making a movie called Night Swim. And I was like fair.
Wilson:Fair enough, I feel like that would be quite horrid.
Captain:And then, lastly, the school that the kids attend is named Harold Holt. Holt was a prime minister, minister, oh, avid swimmer, and disappeared, presumably dead, while swimming in the ocean. I never heard that. I've never even heard of harold holt, but I guess and you're basically australian, so like I basically am. Can't you hear it? Yeah, it sounds exactly like it um, whoa, this is kind of interesting, but this was a while ago uh, yeah, I just looked him up.
Captain:That was a couple years ago just a couple, so like they legit, never found him I, I have not, I don't know anything about this guy. It says he was in Queensland in December in 1967 and he had four companions that decided to go to a certain area and then he spearfished somewhere that he had been previously, and then he disappeared from view while he was caught in a rip current Boy. Oh my gosh. His disappearance sparked one of the largest search operations in Australian history, but no trace of his body was ever found.
Wilson:That's kind of crazy yeah.
Captain:I mean spear phishing does seem like it's really intense.
Wilson:So so is drowning.
Captain:But I'm just saying, if you're going spearfishing, I feel like you already know that you're in danger.
Wilson:Just that activity alone oh yeah, I guess so, I guess so um, I wonder if there's a documentary on this man. There's probably something, at least an episode of some show.
Captain:I did notice in the school that they were in. I think they're like a school mascot. I swear they said that they were the Trouts. I was like, really, really, there was a song playing at the beginning. That was like talking about swimming and drowning, so like oh, one of those like we're gonna sing about exactly what is happening, like love is blind. Oh wait, hold on. Do you have a rag?
Wilson:I was just thinking about that. I can like find one.
Captain:I, you have a rag. I was just thinking about that.
Wilson:I can like find one I do have a rag.
Captain:Okay, you go. Okay. The best part of the movie is when scary monster dad is like full scary, so he's like. Especially I like the scene where he's like a black figure, it's like a blacked out silhouette, like you can't see him at all, but you see his outline and he's like down this figure um, like he's, it's like a blacked out silhouette, like you can't see him at all, but you see his outline and he's like down this hallway from his daughter and Izzy goes dad and she starts to like run towards him thinking that he's gonna comfort her while you know Elliot's drowning, and instead he like says something kind of uh, ominous and she like turns away from him and then sees that there's like black water on the ground.
Captain:That's like rushing towards her and when she looks back up he's gone and then she like turns to her side and he's back in her face like screaming monster possession at her and like throwing her against a wall and I was like, oh my god, is he like gooping from human to water form, back to human? I was like, damn, that's like kind of like. I don't know. I liked that. I was like it's like secret.
Wilson:What secret world of alex mac up in here, if you ever saw that show it's like an old nickelodeon show she could like turn in the liquid I have seen.
Captain:There are other movies or whatever we've watched where people are liquid and then back to human, but I can't like think of where, like what those were and I don't know how you would search that. I mean, I don't know, I think like terminator oh, maybe two but we never did it because it's not really no, it doesn't really count, um, but yeah, I think that that's my race to. Glass is when he goops from human to liquid to human and then screams and scares his daughter um, I will say I liked.
Wilson:Just like the. Um, uh, what's that word? Just like, yeah, the trouts. Um, whenever you know he's being super possessed, he's been attacking the family and the daughter comes up and hits him with a bat the first time. Just how cathartic that is.
Captain:It is good she gets a good crack. She gets a couple really good cracks she does.
Wilson:Beyond that, I don't have anything nice to say.
Captain:We have seen worse.
Wilson:I mean, it's not good, we have, we have, but I don't know, but your, expectation for this was probably a little bit higher. It was yeah, but it was already low. Like I knew, this was supposed to be a bad movie.
Captain:Yikes. Yep, Yep, yep yep, Next week we are doing. I Dropped the Devil, right.
Wilson:Yes, that's our little Christmas Holiday episode. Yeah.
Captain:Yeah, devil, right. Yes, that's our little christmas holiday episode.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, oh we, I guess we do have a little christmas jangle jangle we do we do, we do?
Captain:um, I don't really know what advice to give, because I feel like they already uh, took my advice in the movie. Um, right, I mean they, they filled in the pool I mean, if you got an ancient spring running through, you gotta fill the pool. I don't know what to tell you um it's an everyday problem it is.
Captain:I mean, we all go through this, you know. Um, I would say other good advice. Okay, this is good advice and I did this myself as a little child, but I think your kids should go through swimming lessons so they are proficient in swimming, so they don't grow up stuck in a rip current and they can't get out.
Wilson:Okay, fine, like a prime minister, be practical about it.
Captain:Swimming lessons. That's my advice.