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Curve

Captain & Wilson Season 8 Episode 165

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We are back this week to discuss Curve (2015) - a psychological thriller and horror film directed by Tim L. Anderson. The movie is a tense survival story, with themes of isolation and fear, and it focuses on Mallory's determination to overcome seemingly insurmountable odds.

The film is known for its minimalist setting and intense atmosphere, keeping the audience on edge throughout.

The discussion begins around 15:03.






Captain:

in seeing this thing that you wrote here. It did remind me of a video that I saw that it makes you want to try this recipe where, um, like people, love chips and salsa right, yeah see, okay.

Captain:

So someone was like I, I like I want to do a twist on chocolate covered strawberries. So they like sliced or they like diced strawberries, right, and it almost looked like salsa. And then they melted chocolate, put it on a baking tray and froze it for like, let it salsa. And then they melted chocolate, put it on a baking tray and let froze it for like, let it chill. And then they cut it into triangles and it was like chips and salsa. But it was chocolate strawberries. Dude, that looked so fucking good. I was like ma'am, I was the flabbers are gassed it. I was like I want me at strawberries?

Captain:

I was like I want that dude, like it looked really good and I want to try it I'm listening so that was my. It's like a twist on salsa, but it's a dessert, but it's chocolate covered strawberries I fucking love chocolate covered strawberries. I mean, I feel like you have to be a monster not to like chocolate.

Wilson:

Well, that's true, that's true.

Captain:

I could snack on those like any day, anytime, oh so good, it's like that, and um well, it's just how I was raised. I was born into it, molded by it, born into chocolate covered strawberries. No, no, no, Soft pretzels.

Wilson:

Oh, love a soft pretzel. Even though I won't eat it with mustard that's bullshit I will eat it with cheese.

Captain:

No, I want it raw, raw dog, a soft pretzel.

Wilson:

Oh, you're talking like is that like Philly Pretzel Factory or some shit? What is that called?

Captain:

Yeah, Philly Pretzel Factory, but I like Jim's better. But Jim's is hard to serve for you.

Wilson:

So you like room temperature, soft pretzels Um warmed.

Captain:

Okay, that's fine.

Wilson:

How do you feel about the cinnamon sugar coated soft pretzels?

Captain:

Yeah, I've had those. They're a lot, they're a lot, 're a lot yeah, I don't. Those are things that I like, but I don't like that but a caveat to that is when we went to the zoo and we had a churro and a soft pretzel and we were taking bites of both those. That was a really good combo, like better than cinnamon raisin. Oh no, oh my god, oh my God, cinnamon sugar pretzels.

Wilson:

Oh, you got a pretzel. Wait, did I also get a pretzel?

Captain:

No, I got a pretzel and then.

Wilson:

Okay, I got a churro. I guess Just a churro.

Captain:

You did. I'm talking about when Jay got a churro and we were eating bites of both, and we were eating bites of both. You don't remember this. I remember getting churros yeah, and then I got a soft pretzel okay, and then we were twisting it twisting it that was really good, I kind of that was like better than I thought it was going to be. Um oh man, I like haven't done this setup in a while. I don't even know how I do things.

Wilson:

So I just texted Finn, because he's not here, to ask what I maybe have meant by this salsa wine story.

Captain:

Okay.

Wilson:

Because I know we hosted a little gathering on New Year's, but I don't remember anything about salsa wine. I don't know what that dude I could possibly mean how gone were you? Well, I didn't. I don't think he even had that much. I just don't know what this is referring to. This looks like you typed it in.

Captain:

Oh, this looks like you typed it in on new year's eve, like there's gonna be fucking hysterical.

Wilson:

Yeah, I feel like there's something really good there.

Captain:

But I don't know what it is.

Wilson:

No, I don't even think I had wine on New Year's. I think I was drinking like Prosecco or something.

Captain:

That's close Wait you said how was your hot ones?

Wilson:

I was good, I think you told me about this. Maybe I did. Well, this next part might remind you. So somebody threw up all over a dining room carpet, um, but that was because, uh, I think they had a lot of milk and we were drinking alcohol, and then it got really spicy, so they just like alcohol. And then it got really spicy, so they just like. Well, I don't blame them at all, um, but it was an adventure and I don't think we're gonna do it again.

Captain:

I ever since I had da bomb insanity. I was like I like that. It's burned. The taste itself is like burned yeah into my like I I can, if I think about it hard enough, like I can still taste it.

Captain:

That was like by far the worst thing I've ever had in my life it's not good like they are not like some people on that show are, are like psychopaths or something, because they were eating that without having a reaction and I'm, I was like I. I felt like I was. There was no relief coming, it was just. Everything was hot and seeping.

Wilson:

Yes and well, okay, so I was about to. I just thought of Commander because I was about to say I will say Yo, I catch myself now.

Captain:

He's ruined me. I hear myself say it sometimes and I'm like eels, like I, I I try to stop myself from saying it out because I do say it a lot and now I'm like trying to find different ways to to different phrases that come across the same way so I'll just say I would like to include that this is the.

Wilson:

I've had to bomb three times now. The third time it was not as bad as I remembered. I don't know if I just use less or I'm like getting slightly used to it, but like when we just did it I was like maybe I was hyping myself up, but it was not as bad as I remembered. I don't know.

Captain:

I don't think I'll ever be like oh, this isn't actually that bad oh, I mean, it tastes terrible, like there's no taste.

Wilson:

There's no good taste there, it's just flames sounds how I remember sounds how you remember. So what's this other thing about Dexter? I know we both wanted to talk about it.

Captain:

I'm just living for it, I'm living for it I really like it. Everything about that show it just hits Like, especially over in here. I loved the boat that he went out on was the slice of pie.

Wilson:

I was like y'all are killing it Killing it.

Captain:

I was like, oh, the slice of pie foreshadowing slice of life.

Wilson:

My guess is he buys that boat from Camilla and, just like, changes Pi to life Because I think that's it's the same style of boat I think that he had. So my guess is she sells it.

Captain:

I could see that I was like, oh, y'all hitting it.

Wilson:

Yeah.

Captain:

The show's really good. Yeah, and this last episode season, season or episode, I don't know what it was like eight or something yeah it was really good I wonder if they're like I don't know how they're gonna be able to do this show and resurrection to the same level, because the I don't know.

Wilson:

This one is just like better than I thought it could be, but resurrection is coming out in june, it's like soon it is soon there's like because, yes, they could mess up original sin, but it's also kind of hard to because we know where it's going to end up.

Wilson:

So they're just like filling in the blanks yeah whereas, like resurrection, they can mess it up again bad yeah so we'll see michael c hall is in his 50s now, like they can't just throw a wig on him anymore and pretend, I mean not that that even worked in the original series, but like in my mind this show isn't that old, but like blockbuster was still around when I first heard about this show and like, but I'm I'm cautiously optimistic as, like a third try, they can do it right yeah, I don't know whoever's.

Wilson:

Whoever's in the room right in this currently I, that's who I want, even though it's not the same like no story but I saw some people saying on Reddit obviously they're filming in New York right now that they wish that somehow he would end up in a warm climate, because it doesn't really feel like. Dexter if he's not sweating by palm trees or something. It's like what we're used to.

Captain:

I didn't know. They were filming in New York right now. Well, you sent me that thing where they were casting call for extras, what we're used to, I don't know. They were filming in New York right now Mm-hmm.

Wilson:

Well, you sent me that thing where, like they were, casting call for extras. Oh, yeah, and then I saw on the subreddit like there were pictures of them in New York filming.

Captain:

No, that makes sense. Yeah, I did put my email in for that casting call and then they wouldn't stop fucking texting me, so then I blocked them. Well, what were they texting you about? Just like do you want to come to this guy? They were starting, uh, like it was just a general casting agency, so they're just like starting oh yeah and I was like all right, I'm done with this.

Captain:

I was like, loosely, just I put my email in there, really just to make sure I didn't forget about it, in case I did want to, like I don't know, do it but I was like all right, that's enough of that yeah, I thought about doing it and then it.

Wilson:

Then I saw on reddit they were filming and I was like, all right, it's too late yeah, it's just I don't know. It was just like I don't have the time to run up there, but maybe some other time maybe I mean, if I got a call they're like yes, we're interested, I'd be like I need two days off work.

Captain:

Your eyes got so big. I mean I wouldn't be opposed. I feel like I'd be a problem on set. I don't think I'd be.

Wilson:

A problem?

Captain:

I don't think I'd be like blase, like I don't think I'd be nonchalant about it like yes I really would like it would not be, it would not be professional he's every time he walks by.

Wilson:

You're like tonight's, tonight tonight you're not even lying.

Captain:

I literally would say that to him.

Wilson:

He would roll his eyes so would you like try to cover it up like tonight, tonight no, no, tonight, tonight I'm sure he gets that all the time.

Captain:

I think that would piss him off Probably. He seems really cool.

Wilson:

Yeah, but he does seem like there's a limit, like he has a reasonable level, like ha ha, yeah, tonight's the night, but then I feel like if you're too much about it, he'd be like all right.

Captain:

Yeah.

Wilson:

It's a show.

Captain:

But he does, I know I feel like that show would have creeps like yeah I mean, I yeah, but how?

Wilson:

do you what if somebody goes up to him and it's like, oh yeah, like I even like tried making a kill room, like it like looks the same, like, how do you respond to? That I don't know even if it's entirely innocent but, but it's like good job. Do I need to call someone?

Captain:

His band has, like some, it's like a really long name, but like Unicorn Castle or something.

Wilson:

Yeah, I think there's Butterfly in there.

Captain:

Oh, maybe Butterfly Castle. Do you think people are fans of him like purely for his music?

Wilson:

No, I mean, I would not have listened to it if I didn't know him.

Captain:

You listened to it.

Wilson:

I listened to a song.

Captain:

It's like Butterfly Mansion or something.

Wilson:

I'm trying to find the band name.

Captain:

It's like a long it doesn't come up. I don't know.

Wilson:

I feel like Butterfly Fall Princess Goes to the Butterfly Fall Like Butter.

Captain:

Princess Goes to the Butterfly Museum.

Wilson:

That's the band name.

Captain:

Yeah.

Wilson:

Okay, so we're both right.

Captain:

He's the lead vocalist. I don't think he plays any instruments.

Wilson:

The knife Is that an instrument?

Captain:

It is. It's a surgical instrument, a scalpel.

Wilson:

There we go, a scalpel.

Captain:

Scalpels. Oh my God, that's what his fans should be called Scalpels. Yeah, All right, we're getting into it.

Wilson:

We are getting into it.

Captain:

All right, where are we? How do you want to? How's?

Wilson:

it all. Right, I'm doing this one, aren't I?

Captain:

yeah, you got your rum and coke number seven or something no, actually I switched to kona.

Wilson:

I drink, I drink. I drink them a little slower um you're not guzzling guzzling. Uh, what do you? What do you?

Captain:

got over there I think I'm on my third. No, I'm on a premiere, I'm on a corona premiere talk about mal miami.

Wilson:

This is like giving it's a breeze see I, maybe I've had like a corona, premiere, like uh there's well one, I never drink it in a can, so like if somebody handed me like a corona versus a corona premiere in a bottle I I don't think I would notice.

Captain:

Corona regular, corona Extra is like, so extra it really is. I'm not even like, I'm not even making a joke. I can't but the Premier's.

Wilson:

Inject that into my veins, that's right.

Captain:

You don't like them, you don't even know Well, no, right, you don't like them.

Wilson:

You don't even know, well, no no, I don't dislike them, I just like I don't know if I've had them enough or at all to know the difference.

Captain:

You're missing out.

Wilson:

Maybe I'll try it next time.

Captain:

You can just like pretend you're on an ocean.

Wilson:

I mean, can I not do that with a Corona?

Captain:

Extra Can.

Wilson:

I not do that with a Corona.

Captain:

Extra. No, no, you're like at a club on the beach with an Extra.

Wilson:

So those Corona commercials, are they always doing the premiere? I think they're always doing the Extra. Oh well then, that's the vibe. It's a beach vibe.

Captain:

Oh, I always thought those were like we're on the verge of a party.

Wilson:

Oh, I don't, those were like were on the verge of a party.

Captain:

Oh, I don't know, don't know, I'm not watching it for the commercials, whatever is on.

Wilson:

so yeah, that's fair. That's fair. All right, I can bring us in. Do you want to hop in there?

Captain:

Yeah, we can hop in. Get us in here. All right, curve me in.

Wilson:

Curve you, yeah right, curve me in. Curve you in, wink. Welcome to the 165th episode of the Red Rum Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two.

Captain:

And I'm Captain.

Wilson:

And I'm Wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 2015 American horror thriller film Curve, so this was directed by Ian Softley.

Captain:

Yeah.

Wilson:

He did some movies. Hackers never heard of it. Skeleton Key.

Captain:

I think I saw that. There was a bunch of movies on there and I know that a bunch of them have nominations and stuff, but I didn't really recognize a lot of them.

Wilson:

Yeah, I do not recognize these, except for Skelton Key Kay.

Captain:

Pax has, which I know he's canceled now, but Kevin Spacey is the main character. And this is while he was big Sure. Hmm, okay, but Ian Safley has BAFTA and Academy Award noms.

Wilson:

Good for him. Does that mean he's a British dude?

Captain:

Yes, I did watch a video with him just to make sure he actually said his name like Ian, and yeah, dude has an accent Accent.

Wilson:

Bopping in here actually reminded me this is a really quick aside. Um so in the last week I received two very different comments on my voice and on calls at work. Once two people messaged me they're like you have the most relaxing voice. And then today my boss messaged me. He was like don't take this the wrong way, but you sound terrible oh my god, how could you not take that the wrong way? I. I think it was just because I listened to the recording afterwards.

Captain:

I think it's because the meeting is like 20 minutes after I wake up and I have no enthusiasm in my voice yeah, yeah, I feel like no, I would say starting at like 25 to 30 minutes after I wake up, I'm already drinking coffee.

Wilson:

Yeah, I mean, I had coffee at that point, but I was like that didn't lubricate. This is like the second time that he has said this in the last couple weeks. I'm like Wilson HR.

Captain:

Leave me alone. Yeah, that counts as a comment on my body like leave me alone yeah, well, I'm gonna be extra sensitive about my voice.

Wilson:

You should just start having immediate tears if he does it again like I'm actually crying yeah, like you've actually made me cry, yeah alright, so back to this here movie. It was produced by Jason Blum. It is a Blumhouse movie.

Captain:

Yeah, somehow I didn't pick that up when I made these preps.

Wilson:

What is a? Do you see Blumhouse tilt on the title screen?

Captain:

No, do you see that?

Wilson:

It said the normal BH, but it said tilt under it.

Captain:

Is that? I don't know. Is that something? One of their names they used?

Wilson:

I couldn't tell you. I mean, this movie was 10 years ago, but I don't know what Blumhouse tilt means.

Captain:

It says it was part of Blumhouse Productions.

Wilson:

I don't know it's dedicated to releasing movies on multiple platforms. I think it has to do with distribution.

Captain:

Home video whatever.

Wilson:

Does that mean it's for their bad movies?

Captain:

This movie doesn't have a lot of online presence. I think it might have been. It doesn't say it was a home, does it? Was it straight to video?

Wilson:

I didn't see that, but I didn't, oh it does say well, it was originally released video on demand.

Captain:

Oh yeah, I don't think it ever went to theaters okay, so that's why it doesn't have a box office okay okay yeah, so that's probably where the tilt comes in okay, oh, whoa. This, even though this came out in 2015, it was film, started filming in 2013, so yeah, I saw that it says 2015, but I also saw, like on google, it says released january 2016, so it's one of those movies that has like multiple years oh, okay, there was a looks like there was a festival that it was released in 2015.

Wilson:

There's always some festival and then I had, like I guess, official video on demand release in 2016. Okay, all right, so that's the director, producer, that sort of thing. So I guess three main people in here, mostly just two. We have Julianne, hugh, or, as you would say, huff.

Captain:

I don't know if that's real.

Wilson:

I think it's Hugh, but I'm thinking of somebody. Well, okay, whenever I hear Julianne Hugh, I think of Julianne Moore, who is the redhead.

Captain:

Oh, is that the redhead I was thinking of?

Wilson:

Maybe Okay, when.

Captain:

I Google it. It says okay, the Google feedback pronunciation says Julianne Huff Like H-U-H-F.

Wilson:

Interesting. Well then I wonder if I'm confusing her with someone else. Well, in any case, she plays Mallory. She was an extra in a harry, the first harry potter movie.

Captain:

She's in burlesque, footloose, dancing with the stars, mostly a dancer and mostly known for blackface well, I didn't realize that was her. I guess I didn't scroll down to her like uh, what do you call that, where it's like um wikipedia like uh, controversies like you know, doesn't wikipedia have something like that yeah, they have like a controversy section.

Captain:

Yeah, I don't think I scrolled that far down, I guess I just looked her up while we were watching the movie. That's the only reason yeah, I remember that our orange is new black blackface story, but I totally did not like I. I remember at the time when it came out that I didn't know who that was that did it um do you think she learned from it, or yeah?

Captain:

no, she made a statement afterwards being like um, I fucked up, like basically yeah, but like do you think she like did that because she had to? Um, I don't know, I, I, she. She apologized. She said she felt bad. I don't know. I mean, is she canceled afterwards? I don't know what she did after that. When was that?

Wilson:

I feel like she still did things. I mean, I think it was like 10 years ago at this point she didn't do like okay, yeah, she did.

Captain:

I mean she put on like 17 shades darker conceal like foundation. It's just, it was bad, look. I don't know why she would do that.

Wilson:

Okay.

Captain:

Like she didn't put on like black face paint, like the movies, but like it's bad. It's really bad. The picture's not good. I think. I don't know, I can't speak, for this is bad, okay.

Wilson:

It was a.

Captain:

Halloween costume. Like girl, come on, Read this room. Society.

Wilson:

Yeah, these pictures are rough. I'm not going to look it up, but I believe it.

Captain:

Wait, okay, well, anyway, I don't know her besides this, yeah, I just feel like I've heard her name. But that's about it. Yeah, the Huff.

Wilson:

Yeah the Huff, yeah the Huff. So then we have Teddy Sears who plays.

Captain:

Christian.

Wilson:

I've never heard of that name before I haven't either, but he looks vaguely familiar and I guess it's because he was in American Horror Story.

Captain:

Murder House the Flash 24. 24 Legacy not 24.

Wilson:

He was in an episode of how to get away with murder. I never finished it. Uh, he's an impeachment american crime story I think I watched that, so he's like, I guess, friends with uh ryan murphy seems like oh okay, yeah, that makes sense um, and then we have, I mean, we only see her for like 10 minutes um but she was actually in things oh wait, this is the sister. I was thinking this was the lady we see later on yeah, this is the sister so she was in hemlock grove.

Wilson:

I. I have been meaning to re-watch that show. I do remember liking it. I don't think I ever finished it. Vampire Diaries Hellboy and Sting who is she in?

Captain:

Sting Heather, that Sting, that Spider movie that came out recently, I think Heather's the mom, maybe I don't know, oh, wow, okay I don't know. I mean, who else would it be?

Wilson:

because I think I watched sting right after you and jay left the last time he visited okay, yeah, we watched it in theaters, just randomly that had been on my list for a while. I was surprised. I actually kind of liked that movie yeah, it wasn't bad yeah, um, all right, you ready to bippity bop?

Captain:

yeah, I'm curious the start of this movie, because I kind of missed most of that conversation she had with her sister.

Wilson:

So I like kind of pieced it together, but I wasn't entirely sure yeah, so, um, mallory, the julianne hugh character or huff whatever, um, uh, so she's we, we get uh an understanding pretty early on. She's driving from san francisco to denver and she's meeting her fiance there, um, and they're about to get married. We find out he had to cancel their honeymoon because of like work stuff, um, and she's driving by herself, like basically through the desert, um, and I think this movie takes place in salt lake city or around it, um, how'd you pick that?

Wilson:

oh, the street, the sign, the road signs the the police officer's uniform said salt lake city police yeah, and then I looked it up but I was like I don't understand where exactly she is, um, but so anyway, like of course this woman driving by herself in an old car through the desert with no signal obviously gonna run into issues, um, so her, her car kind of dies and while she's looking at it this guy just walks up, fixes her car.

Captain:

Yeah well he approaches her while she's like half nakey like she spills something on herself and she rips her shirt off and she's gonna change it and like that man gives her no privacy. He's just like hey, get car. I'm like, can you give her one second?

Wilson:

like yeah, I mean he's walking over basically shirtless.

Captain:

He originally had a shirt on. He took it off.

Wilson:

Okay, wow, yeah, it was unbuttoned, or something.

Captain:

Also, I don't know, she kind of like we don't really know, but after Brad I guess, canceled the honeymoon, like she kind of doesn't like him, like I think she takes her ring off around this time, or right before yeah, and when you see this like attractive guy walk up, it's like oh, you know, like what's you know?

Wilson:

maybe she's gonna like yeah, like I don't know, do something yeah, like, they're like semi flirting, but not really they're flirty yeah, so she's, but she's taking like some precautions because she's, like you know, basically I I can't take you anywhere because I don't know you, um, but she's taking like some precautions because she's, like you know, basically I can't take you anywhere because I don't know you um but he, they did like introduce each other, like he was like I'm christian and she's mallory, and they were having some conversations about family and stuff.

Wilson:

Like he knew some stuff about her because she well, that was after she decided to actually drive him somewhere. Right, oh sorry yeah that's right he gets.

Captain:

yeah, he, she was after she decided to actually drive him somewhere, right? Oh, sorry, yeah, that's right. Yeah, she was going to leave him.

Wilson:

She does feel bad about leaving him there, so she's like okay, I'll give you a ride to the highway.

Captain:

Yeah, she was going to let him stay there. He said he was hiking For me. I'd be like, oh, if you're hiking, I'll let you finish your hike. Well, yeah, you're not stranded, you're just hiking. That, like that's what you tell me. I'm gonna just, all right, enjoy your hike like I. Yeah, yeah, she said that. Yeah, so she like you. Can I actually like that. In the movie they give you you watch like a there's like a slightly longer than normal scene of her decision making process. Like she. You can see her mulling it over in her head and the the pause is long enough that you can tell that she's thoroughly like making you know what I mean like yeah, I mean she ends up making the wrong decision she does alone, with no cell service, um but she thought about it she did, she did think about it.

Wilson:

Um, so she does pick them up, she, like you know, they're chatting, filling in on each other's lives. They make it to the highway and then she's, like, you know well, where are you headed? He's headed to like a motel off the highway, and that's where she decides.

Captain:

Oh well, you know, maybe I'll stay there too she says maybe I'll stop and grab a bite, which, yes, there was a lot of loose implying like I, I don't know it. Like I I feel like girl is having, she just wants to like I don't know. Uh, it's like when you, when you like, end a relationship and you want to like just have a fling or something, because clearly she's like not happy with her soon-to-be husband, like girl literally takes her ring off and throws it in her box.

Wilson:

Her, her sister, clearly doesn't like the guy either yeah on there.

Captain:

Yeah, I don't know if you said yeah, they like video chat in the beginning, and is she the one that made her that ccd that says like fuck you, brad okay yeah, so like fuck you for leaving me or whatever. Yeah, so yeah I feel like she's maybe in the mood for like a fling or something.

Wilson:

I mean, if he played his cards right, I think she would have.

Captain:

But like pretty quickly.

Wilson:

After she decides to go with him to the motel out of nowhere, he's like oh, you couldn't even take this huge dick.

Captain:

It was so random. He literally out of nowhere. He's like you couldn't even fit this giant cock in your mouth. And then he says JK. And then he says jk and then he says it's not that big and like her the whole vibe flips and she's like, okay, you need to get the fuck out of my car.

Wilson:

It was so uncomfortable, it was so uncomfortable, so uncomfortable and he was like no, you're gonna drive or I'm gonna basically stab you yeah, he holds her at knife point and the the flip up.

Captain:

I was like, okay, I'm seated. I'm like I'm watching you have my attention yeah, I was not expecting that. It was kind of like the like the first, they like had an extra minute or two of like wasted time of her like jamming to the cd and I was like, okay, it's gonna be one of those movies, but it was not, and we were like 14 minutes into the movie at this point okay, like, that's like a good amount of time.

Captain:

That's like uh, it was not and we were like 14 minutes into the movie at this point. Okay, like, that's like a good amount of time.

Wilson:

That's like uh it was quick, though, like so I was curious where the rest of the movie was gonna go. Um, I'm gonna take a really quick break and get another drink okay, well, let me I'm gonna.

Captain:

Okay, well, I'm doctoring my drink now, so we are back.

Wilson:

Uh, what was I saying? They the the big dick comment did we mention that?

Captain:

um, she also said that she doesn't have a cell service. Do we say that?

Wilson:

uh, I did say oh like, yeah, by herself no cell service, okay, okay, um, yeah.

Captain:

So she's at knife point and he says like you're gonna keep driving, or, um, if I drive the rest the way, it's like not gonna be a good trip for anybody. And then she says where, where are you go? So like she continues driving and he goes where are we? Or she says where are we going? He says I already told you the motel, so like it sounds rapey and he's like there's no one there, it's abandoned, oh yeah, it's abandoned, so no one's going to interrupt us, so I love that.

Captain:

She's like all right, I'd rather crash this bitch than get raped Like she literally was.

Wilson:

Like she notices he doesn't have a seatbelt on and so and she does so before he even has a chance to put that thing on, she just yeets that car over the.

Captain:

She goes off the curve and down a mountain Upside down, flips upside down, yeah, and it's pretty bad. She's bleeding a lot. He is yeeted all the way out of the car. That man should be dead, but she, she is alive, upside down, like I said, um her leg.

Wilson:

Of course he's alive, yeah her leg is stuck. I kind of didn't quite understand how it was stuck, but it's like in a door somehow it's like somehow wedged between the seat and the door, so she's upside down but her leg's caught.

Captain:

Yeah, Like she. Yeah, it's, the door is stuck with like a tree log so she can't open it. But yeah, she I can't remember what it is she like tries to tie it off her arm and stuff so she's not bleeding, and she grabs his knife that he had before. He has a chance to get to her, but he does eventually get up.

Wilson:

I kind of stopped taking notes and this is where we actually spend most of the movie. So she's stuck upside down and he's at this point. You realize he's kind of like toying with her, or the movie is like wants to see what she'll do yeah he's like I'm gonna leave you bye yeah, he, yeah.

Captain:

I can't remember why what he says exactly. Yeah, but he basically is like I'm gonna leave, um, and like I think he tells her like nobody's out here, like no one's gonna come for you we're in the middle of nowhere, um, and I don't even know if he tells her I'll be.

Wilson:

I don't think he says I'll be back no, he does like it make it sounds like he's just gonna leave, yeah, so so she spends like what?

Captain:

a whole night or two out there she's there at least two nights and he does visit her like two to three times, just like toying with her, like one, um, he's like first he says I have food and water and you're watching him eat it and drink in front of her because she's like I need water and he's like, um, tell me the first time you lost your virginity or something oh it was such a creepy, uh like intimate thing that he was asking for.

Captain:

And then he's asking her all these details, like did he make you come? And like all this weird.

Captain:

It was uncomfortable it was so uncomfortable and she's giving him this story about someone named Theo when she was 17. And he's like do you still think about him? Do you still touch yourself? And it was so weird. But what got me is that he, like you, can tell she's on the verge of tears and then he starts laughing and he's like that's not your story, that's your sister's story, ella. And, like you know, you shouldn't just tell people what they want to hear, mallory. And I'm thinking to myself, like I, after he said that, I was like, oh, is this an inside job? Because, like you heard about her and her sister for like all of what eight minutes? I mean not even.

Wilson:

Yeah, there's no way he would know her well enough to be like you didn't have sex with him.

Captain:

Yeah, like because she gives this story about how her sister like is you know never, what'd she say? Never tied down a different man every month or something. And I'm like, dude, you do not, you don't know anybody here. But then I was like, well, maybe he does so I was kind of waiting for that, but we don't actually get that I don't think the movie is that smart to like I well, you said you thought you knew how this movie was gonna end, and I and I was like oh, maybe, maybe that's what you meant.

Wilson:

The movie didn't end up ending the how I thought oh okay.

Captain:

So, yeah, he, yeah she's. She's struggling out there without you know, while he's gone, though, Like she's, you know, eating rats.

Wilson:

Yes. She does eat a rat, sort of drinking her own urine, yeah, and he's, he's having fun toying with her, like he brings her a tool bag and it's like let's see what you do. So he gives her a saw and I was like this girl's gonna cut her fucking leg you did.

Captain:

You were like pretty sure she's gonna do do that. But before he does that, I think he comes back and says like I made friends with the people. I wasn't sure exactly what that was supposed to do, but he was like there's a cabin close by that. I made friends with the people that live there and he shows her that he has like a beaded bracelet that says Katie. But I don't know if that was supposed to mean that the closest people that she was to were not on her side, or was he implying with her that he was already torturing other people?

Wilson:

I think that he was implying that he was already torturing other people. But I think in my mind the main goal of him saying that was one for the movie to explain where he was and to just set up the end of the movie.

Captain:

Okay, yeah.

Wilson:

That's my take at least.

Captain:

Okay, yeah, I mean they do kind of for the setting. They're like she's in her car, but it's pretty clear that she's in the middle of, she's not very close to the road that they came off of and there's nothing down there but a little stream. They're not really visible from the road. You'd have to, like, come all the way to the cliff, I think right.

Wilson:

So, um, one of the nights, like she's basically preparing for him to come back, like she does try to cut her leg off, but she can't do it. Wait the phone. Oh, was that around? Oh, yes, the phone was right before this she wakes up yeah to in the morning to her phone buzzing.

Captain:

Now we did watch her try to find her. Like she does search for her phone in all of this. I don't know we said this, but she finds like other stuff. She finds a lighter, so she's like she can make herself a fire at night and stay warm. Um, she finds like her uh husband soon-to-be husband's like porn that she's burning. Um, she finds um christian's wallet, so it has his name in it and like a picture of a supposed family. Um, so she like I don't she.

Wilson:

I don't know what time I don't know if it was this time that she uses that to try to like, uh, psychologically I think it was an earlier time because, I think it was daylight, when he, uh, when he comes back and she's trying to hide the phone so she doesn't get to make a call, but he, he catches her, he finds the phone because I think ella's calling back again.

Captain:

Yeah, clearly her phone clearly at least her sister's looking for her, because we hear on the police radio later that they're searching for her. But yeah, her sister is calling her, trying to, you know, figure out where she is, that you know she's missing. So she gets the phone, misses the call, but before she she's like literally about to call back and before she does. Christian gets there Now, for me I'd be like I don't give a fuck if he gets there or not. Just hit that hit, hit like, call, like let it go.

Wilson:

I mean, oh yeah, she should have let the phone keep just listening.

Captain:

Yeah, just that ella could listen, like she could start saying stuff that she would know. Whoever was hearing the conversation with her, you know, would know where she is.

Wilson:

But anyway, yes, christian finds the phone because, or steals her phone because it was buzzing again yeah, so he leaves again to go to the cabin and then I think we're at the point where she's like maybe I do cut off my leg. She starts to do it can't. And then she I think this is where she comes up, is this where she comes up with? The idea to put rat guts on her leg.

Captain:

Yeah, so she hears her car radio still works so she can hear that a storm is coming that's going to be pretty bad and I guess she catches some rainwater and drinks some water. But like the storm is bad, like it's going to flood, and she sees a car. Christian told her I'll be back, that I'd say good night. So she sees a car at the top and she's hoping that it's not him. But then it's clear that it is him and so she like makes this plan to put rats guts on her leg. That makes it look like she cut her, started sawing her leg off, and then she pretends to be dead.

Captain:

So, he comes up to her, he like pokes at first. He's like, oh my God, you really tried it with a stick and she's not moving, so he gets close enough. Then he thinks that she is dead. I guess, um, yeah, but she has a piece of glass and stabby stabs, stabby wabby.

Wilson:

She does get him a little bit, but, and she? Like beats him with a rock, like she has a rock that she can like really get some good kicks in, which is nice, um, like obviously it does nothing I mean he's like mad, but yeah, but I mean like he's still he's still fine yeah, um, so I think he goes back to his because she gets his keys out of his pocket whenever, um oh, in that struggle yeah yeah, so she's setting off the car alarm of the car.

Captain:

That was the street that was the biggest part of that whole thing.

Captain:

That, yes yeah so sure there's cars that are. She can see cars are going around like they're going both directions on that street up there. So with the car alarm off, she knows somebody's gonna like be aware that it's happening. And of course a police officer pulls up to that car to try to figure out what's going on, because there's like this crazy storm that's coming through like they tell people you have to get off the road. So Christian gets back up to the top of the hill without his car keys, just so that the cop doesn't think the car is like abandoned.

Wilson:

Yes, and then the cop's, like you know, can I help you? And the guy obviously can't get in the car without the keys. So like she's honking the horn the cop maybe hears it, he does.

Captain:

He kind of hears stuff like he hears the horn and she blasts the radio and then she's using like a rock to slam on her car door so it's making like a big clang clanging noise and the cop definitely hears that throughout the rain. I mean christian.

Wilson:

Yes, he's trying to downplay it, but yeah, and he's like almost going to kill the cop if the cop notices, but he doesn't. But this is the part where I'm like, well, obviously he's going to kill the cop if the cop notices, but he doesn't. But this is the part where I'm like, well, obviously he's going to kill the cop when the cop takes him back to the cabin.

Captain:

So it's like yeah, either kill him here or you kill him at the cabin he pretends to be friends with the people at the cabin. So the cop's like, oh yeah, jim. And sue yeah I'll take you over there. Um so I'm like oof RIP to that cop Nah girly.

Wilson:

No, Uh, so um, he, he does end up getting in the car with the cop. They leave to go back to the cabin. This is where all the rain and the storm is like compiling. It's starting to push the the car she's in like down river.

Captain:

Um, and like her car starts moving, it hits like a rock or a tree and she's able to get her leg unstuck yeah, the stream that was next to her originally is now like a raging river because of so much flooding and there's like, uh, she goes down like a small waterfall, even like it's yeah, and she's able to.

Wilson:

She is able to swim out, she escapes, does not go to the road, she goes through the woods.

Captain:

The worst decision I've ever seen, though, and all of this is like she does not take the road and wave somebody down Like I don't know why you would I mean.

Wilson:

Maybe she was afraid he'd be on the road and find I don't know. But she goes to the woods. She of course stumbles upon the cabin that he's staying at.

Captain:

He said it was close.

Wilson:

Yeah, she hears screaming. I think she's deciding between just walking by and going to save them. She does decide to go to save them.

Captain:

She hears a woman screaming like please help me. It's like as if it was her.

Wilson:

That's why she stops yeah, so she does see um. Christian kills the cop with a nail gun it's uh like texas chainsaw in there yeah, but this guy's like monologuing on like this was your decision.

Captain:

Like the same thing you chose to stop by.

Wilson:

Yeah, it's the same thing he says to mallory in the beginning.

Captain:

I don't know if we said that, but in the beginning he says the same, very similar thing to mallory like I, I'm not. She's like why are you doing this? He's like I'm not doing this. You chose to stop. You chose to let me in your car like this was your decision.

Wilson:

I'm like dude I like, I'm not. I'm not defending him. I can see his argument of being like that's a psychopath argument. Yeah, it's like you wanted to keep going. You had your chances. Still do not defending him at all, but obviously the cop was just helping someone, it's his job. Well, yeah, it's not like he made these bad decisions, because you could argue that she was making a decision to potentially cheat on her fiancé again, not justifying him like but at least there's like some moral thing.

Captain:

But yeah, but like the cops.

Wilson:

Just like you're in danger, I'm gonna help you. This isn't like teaching a lesson, or whatever.

Captain:

Yeah, I don't know if what I'm saying is coming across. No, I get what you're saying. I didn't think about it that way, but yeah.

Wilson:

No, that definitely is weird yeah, so anyway, the cop's dead. But she sneaks inside like starts to free the woman um and that's where that lives, there, right I think yeah, okay, um yeah mallory's watching all this from the outside of the house.

Captain:

So, yes, and then she's she sneaks in um. There was other dead people in there, I guess other the other.

Wilson:

There was a couple somebody's birthday party oh, that's what it was there is an extra person there. Oh, I guess it's the daughter. I guess.

Captain:

Yeah, he said there was cake at one point. I forgot about that.

Wilson:

Yeah.

Captain:

Maybe it was her parents and then her.

Wilson:

I think it was like a grandparent, a child and I don't know.

Captain:

Okay.

Wilson:

So she starts to free the girl, but then Christian comes up. The girl pretends to still be like tied up and Mallory's hiding behind a door.

Captain:

Mallory has stolen his gun.

Wilson:

Yeah. So he comes in, then eventually notices the girl isn't actually tied up and then Mallory's like I'm going to shoot you.

Captain:

She says don't move or I'll shoot.

Wilson:

And then he's like I'm going to shoot you. She says don't move or I'll shoot.

Captain:

And then he's like just shoot him, yeah, he just charges at her. Which is like this dude probably has like 80 pounds on you girl, like you should have just shot him.

Wilson:

No, she does get like. I think she does shoot him a little bit.

Captain:

I don't know they struggle. There's like a kerfuffle through the house.

Wilson:

There's like a, there's a kerfuffle like through the house. Um, there's like a. You know, back and forth, I got you, I don't got you. Um, she ends up pushing him off a balcony and he rolls down a hill and falls in a bear trap yo so uh like that scene where he is hurt.

Captain:

Oh, feels so good it is cathartic. But I'm also like just kill him, but then him he is bleeding badly, he looks bad, she like already scratched him in his face like he already looks unwell, and he before this he was like oh, this is so much fun, I haven't had this much fun in a while. And then he gets stuck in a bear trap and you don't hear him saying any of that shit anymore no and then Mallory cathartically gives him the same exact speech he gave her.

Captain:

Where she goes. Oh wow, looks like you're bleeding a lot. I don't think you know how much trouble you're in. Looks like you just barely missed your femoral artery. I don't know how you're going to get out of this.

Wilson:

The same exact speech that he gave her. Um, yes, which is it's nice, it's nice, it is, it is nice. But I'm just like this guy could get out somehow, I don't know kill him.

Captain:

They zoomed in on where that bear trap was and I was like, uh honey, bunches, that looks like an artery because it is gushing it is gushing.

Wilson:

and then, meanwhile, the girl that she saved is doing nothing on the porch.

Captain:

She's just like yeah, she gets free, and because Mallory even tells her to run, but she doesn't actually run off because I think she's afraid she doesn't want to leave Mallory Like she's like I don't want to, you know, just leave another woman to get tortured. So like she.

Wilson:

I mean yeah.

Captain:

She's not doing anything.

Wilson:

She's just standing there, yeah, yeah, not the best like run or something, yeah, but there's there's a phone.

Captain:

There has, one of you has to have a phone. Yeah, landline cabin yeah yeah, or that doesn't. Doesn't do any of that, but mallory pushing him off the balcony was very, very nice it was nice because he's he's, he, you know, he even like, is like making grouting noises and he even is like fuck you.

Wilson:

So yeah, so like pretty sure he's gonna die and mallory and the girl hobble off, we assume, to safety and, yeah, the wikipedia says that he succumbs to his wounds and dies I mean, that's, I guess, assuming I mean, he kind of doesn't look well. No, but we don't see that.

Captain:

I don't think he's alive.

Wilson:

Probably not. Yeah, I don't think there's like we don't know how it's going to end, type ending Like I think we're pretty sure. Yeah, no.

Captain:

But this movie has a lot of suspense or buildup like tension and I was not expecting this much tension and I was kind of living for it.

Wilson:

Yeah, because this was supposed to be our bad movie.

Captain:

This was yeah, if you look at the rating it doesn't have any numbers Like I guess it was straight to mostly straight to streaming or whatever.

Wilson:

I mean I will say like sorry, I said it. I said I will say, um this? There are a lot of problems with this movie, but it still surprised me and it still entertained me. But it's not it's not a great movie I was entertained yes I.

Captain:

I was expecting something dumb, where they're stuck in a car or like I don't know, like what was that movie that we watched with their road rage trucker? Like? That's what I was expecting, joyride yeah, and this was like full of tension. I'm sitting there at the edge of my seat, I'm biting my nails. Like for what?

Wilson:

like I was not expecting that.

Captain:

I was not expecting that. Like fully enthralled movie, really, really good. Attention building and shocking, like when that man switches from being this like nice, polite, flirty guy to being like, yeah, but what about this cock? Though? You're like, oh, like it's so, it's so like I, you know, double take, I can't even whiplash yeah, I.

Wilson:

I mean, it made me super uncomfortable when I was like is this?

Captain:

that's the point is this like a 20, this is a 20 like 15 movie, like, but that's the point, though, like because I feel like they do a pretty good uh, it gets pretty realistic in the sense of, like you know, being I feel like if you were in that situation and you were like, throwing that off, like it's, it's just, you can't even I don't know.

Wilson:

It's like she already put her guard down, so it's like she was not expecting to be, you know yes, I was relieved that, like yes, I was relieved that, like when he first said about like he made it sexual, I was like, is this, is this whole movie gonna be about? Like, like sex and rape? Yeah, I'm really glad it wasn't. I think I took some of those.

Captain:

There was a rapey torture movie on the on the list that I was like nope, I like took that off. I was like no, I'm not doing that.

Wilson:

Yeah.

Captain:

But this series is actually interesting that you see a woman make a full decision. That's like I'd rather crash this bitch and burn in hell than get raped. You're like you know what Good.

Wilson:

Good for her.

Captain:

Yeah, like good, I don't know.

Wilson:

I hate that it came to this. But like do you? But like he doesn't win.

Captain:

Yeah, it's's like it's still your.

Wilson:

You're in control the whole time. I don't know. Yeah, and you can tell the budget was really like the the accident scene. I was like this is really low budget, but you did very well for what you had oh yeah, they did great for what they had.

Captain:

I was never like ew yeah so I was. I was very happy with what we were given.

Wilson:

Yes, I don't see a lot of goss about this movie. The only, I guess, fun thing is that Ava Mendes was originally attached to play Mallory, but that was, I guess the idea, for this movie came in like 2007. Uh, so obviously a lot changed in those like six years yeah, and then for numbers yeah, that there's.

Captain:

All we have is an audience score of 27, which I do not agree with at all um but that's, we don't have anything else. Oh, there was an alternate storyline. Not that it's that interesting, but an alternate story.

Captain:

Okay what it says that in an alternate storyline on the home video release, mallory does not originally give christian a ride, but after. After he restarts the car, but she ends up calling her sister again, ella um, about the encounter. And then the car shuts down again and this time, upon inspection, she learns there's a crucial cable that's been cut and then, unable to get cell service, she happens upon the cabin that appears at the end of the movie in the final cut, and sneaks inside. When nobody answers the door, she discovers the phone has been cut and hides. When christ, who repaired her truck as to use it for himself, arrives at the cabin and enters, then the family is shown to be victims. Oh, that sounds terrible. I'm glad it was not this.

Wilson:

I'm so glad they changed it, because that sounds like a very stereotypical movie. Yeah, that sounds terrible, that I would have been really annoyed, because I know when he first showed up I was like all right, what, what's he gonna do to the car? That it won't actually be fixed and she'll get stranded again yeah, no, I'm actually really glad.

Captain:

Yeah, this sounds like what you would expect. A 2015 movie about somebody meeting somebody in the in the desert with no cell service would be. But yes, it is not that at all. There was another what's that movie we watched with jared padaleck where their car is fucked with or something. Oh, house of Wax, or something. Yeah, oh yeah.

Wilson:

I think there's something similar oh yeah, they go to a mechanic and the mechanic like breaks their car. Yeah, yeah.

Captain:

And I feel like God. I do not want to watch one more of those.

Wilson:

No, absolutely not, Absolutely not this was very different.

Captain:

Yeah, I guess that this is their original. I don't know, Someone was like throw all this away.

Wilson:

No, that is fair. This movie, I think, got me because it didn't fall into like tropes. Yeah, like when I told you, I thought how the movie would end like I thought she was going to cut off her leg and then go on a vengeance spree and kill the guy.

Wilson:

That's what you thought was going to happen spree and kill the guy, and that's where that's what you thought was gonna happen. Yeah, I mean, I didn't think she was gonna die, but I really did think she was gonna end up cutting off her leg and like she'd be like I'm empowered which I want her to be empowered, obviously, but I didn't want to be to predict, I didn't want to be predictable and it wasn't it was not I.

Captain:

I actually the only thing I think I would have given the movie a higher rating is if it did circle back to something where it's like I don't know what the reason would be. But if her soon-to-be husband was setting this up for some reason or her sister was setting this up for some reason, Because we hear those characters are mentioned and they're very important to her, but they actually don't really come back into play much. They help set up her backstory but they don't come back around through the end of the movie. We don't even hear her get reunited with her family at the end.

Wilson:

No, but I have a feeling she's going to dump her fiance.

Captain:

Yeah, but maybe it would be nice to I don't know get that at the end.

Wilson:

She's grown in this experience yeah, like I don't know how you end a movie like that, but I would not have been mad if I saw like uh, fuck you to the fiance yeah, like, but you brad. Yeah, I don't know even though he doesn't sound like a terrible person. I mean, obviously, canceling a honeymoon is he said he was canceling the honeymoon for a business deal.

Captain:

I'm like can you shut the fuck up? That pisses me off. I don't care. I'm sure that's been planned for months, if not a year, like come on.

Wilson:

Yeah.

Captain:

Clearly you didn't want to go, clearly you didn't want to go.

Wilson:

I, oh I did. I actually almost wanted to see like her meeting up with a fiance and him only being mad about his car being destroyed, because we had that line of him saying like, oh, you know, take care of my car. So like I wanted that scene of him being mad about it and she's just like fuck you.

Captain:

Yeah, I don't know how they could have twisted that back in there, but I think if I just got five minutes of the family twisted back in at the end, I think that would have been, uh, five stars.

Wilson:

Five yeah.

Captain:

But currently the movie for me is sitting at four and a half only because I was. I mean, like I said, if I stopped taking notes, like then you have to like that's a good movie if I'm not taking notes anymore. You were gooped I was gooped and gagged. It was like watching that zombie movie where I was like, holy fuck, this is really good yeah, yeah, it's um.

Wilson:

so we often watch movies with um a couple people and one of them is like has very uh, what's a good way to put this? They have, I'm going to say, sophisticated feelings or opinions about movies where, like mine, usually differ from that. Like I will rate a movie on how entertained I am, they rate it compared to every other movie they've like ever seen.

Captain:

That's rude.

Wilson:

And so like this movie I think by them would be rated very lowly, low. But no, you have to read it for what it is yeah, like I, if a movie goops and gags me, it's gonna get a high rating I give this.

Captain:

I give it I like. On letterboxd, I gave it a four and a half.

Wilson:

I don't even care I gave it a, I gave it a three, but I could be talked up to a three and a half.

Captain:

I was so enthralled, Like you got me. I'm invested.

Wilson:

Can I have a percentage? Because I've only been recording percentages for our ratings for like a table.

Captain:

See, that's tough because I feel like the percentage changes. It's not the same as my stars, but that's it's because we go from five to a hundred. So, um, but I actually really like this. I'm gonna, I'm gonna give it an 88 jesus okay I mean for what they do. I mean, like I said, they could have gotten more. I mean they could have got me up to like a 95 if they just gave me the end tied up a little more nicely damn okay there was not.

Captain:

As I was watching the movie, I had nothing. I couldn't even write anything down, like I was like I get, oh, keep coming. Where's this going?

Wilson:

Okay, yeah, I mean, I'm not judging your score at all. I gave it a 51.

Captain:

Jesus, weren't you in thrall Like weren't you?

Wilson:

like shocked. I was a little gooped A little.

Captain:

But I still think like, for example, the dialogue in a lot of it was like super clunky or like uncomfortable and I don't think that was necessarily purposeful I, I saw, I hear what you're saying but honestly I feel like that dialogue was very realistic to how a real interaction would happen in that situation, because it's not gonna sound. It's not gonna sound nice and pretty like it's gonna be to sound nice and pretty Like it's going to be clunky, cause you're like in a really stressful situation.

Captain:

You, you do drive a hard bargain, I feel like it was, it was giving realistic, like what she was doing and what he was like in in reaction to him, like I was, like I don't know if I would stray that differently than what she's doing.

Wilson:

All right, I'll give it a 60,. But than what she's doing. All right, I'll give it a 60,. But.

Captain:

I'm not going any higher, okay, all right.

Wilson:

You got me that high. Okay, do you have a race of glass?

Captain:

This is tough because I'm split. I'm a split between the scene where he flips his personality and the scene where she gets back at him, and I don't know which one I like better. What about you?

Wilson:

um, I mean, obviously driving off the cliff is pretty like the curve like the curve is, like you know, the quintessential moment. You know, honestly, I'm gonna say my raise glasses where it didn't fall into a trope of like. I'm glad she did not cut off her leg Because, like, I think that's where that was. Like the decision point of this is either a 30% or a now 60%.

Captain:

Yeah, if she cut her leg off. This would not be. I mean, this would be the opposite side of the scale for me. She cut her leg off this movie would not be.

Wilson:

I mean, this would be the opposite side of the scale for me. No, yeah, I mean now, maybe if she cut her leg off and she's like I'm gonna attach a machine gun to it and take him out, I'd be like you know what 90, but I don't think that's the direction they would have gone.

Captain:

Yeah, we're in the realm of um uh, what's that? Uh, oh man. Um, what's that, oh man? What's that movie franchise where that guy is like with a chainsaw Not Texas Chainsaw what's the one that's like Speak no Evil, oh?

Wilson:

wait, are you talking about Evil Dead? Yeah, Like his original movies. Yeah, yeah.

Captain:

Aren't those ones kind of campy like that?

Wilson:

Oh yeah, yeah, like that If it was a campy movie. Yeah yeah, Like if it was a campy movie. Yeah yeah, but it's not, we're not there.

Captain:

I think I am, I think I man. It's tough to choose one, but I think I would rather choose the one in the beginning, just because you're like what's up, like what. Yeah, yeah, he's just. The flip is so sudden where you're like oh I fucked up by making this decision and then the knife comes out. So yeah, I would recommend, I don't even care.

Wilson:

I think I would probably recommend. Obviously, it wouldn't be my first choice. Somebody's like oh I want to watch this horror movie. But, if somebody was like I want to watch a good-for-her movie. And attention, I would listen somewhere like, if you're like, if you're like I want to sit in tension, I'd be like, oh, this is it yeah suspense, we're gonna talk about a movie, I think next week in our intro discussion, where that's another good for her movie, where I'm like yes, yes, yes, um.

Captain:

The last thing I have to say is um, unfortunately, I wonder how many movies we have of this, but I do have a poor one out and I did not like watching her stab a rat to death no, that was a poor one out for me, and we don't have a lot of poor one outs, I don't think no, you could probably find them in your little control f of your maybe, but yeah, that's, that is a poor one out.

Wilson:

We should consider start starting to do a poor one out for every movie, like erase a glass, and a poor one out.

Captain:

I don't. I don't often have one, but when I do I'm like, oh, I really really did not like that yeah, it's like a highlight and a low light.

Wilson:

I think we could. I think we could pick a low light of every movie I could, oh, oh I think we could pick a low light Of every movie. Oh, I think we could find a low light in almost every movie. If we can find something really good, we can find something really bad.

Captain:

Sometimes we are combing through the weeds for a raise of glass.

Wilson:

Okay, yeah yeah, sometimes they probably be the same, depending on the movie.

Captain:

The pour and the raise the race. Yeah, yeah, that's fair uh.

Wilson:

So what are we doing next week?

Captain:

oh, next time on the red run podcast we're doing personal shopper, which I've wanted to watch for a while.

Wilson:

Um, but I have feelings I'm excited to hear those feelings.

Captain:

Uh, so I think, uh oh yes and then, um, I need advice based on this movie, but there's a lot I feel like you could say that I agree with oh yeah, like the original one I think we were talking about earlier.

Wilson:

Like you shouldn't, as a, like a woman, do not go by yourself driving through a desert with no cell service service and then pick up a hitchhiker nope, and then?

Captain:

also decide to go to a motel with him and then, when you finally get free of all of the torture, don't follow the road back. That is terrible.

Wilson:

Like those are bad, bad decisions yeah, but I will say her what her good decision was to drive off the cliff.

Captain:

It sounds like oh yeah, good for her.

Wilson:

Yeah, I mean yeah, oh, maybe not advice for everybody, no, like don't don't actually try to drive off a cliff, but I think for her it worked out good for her.

Captain:

It worked out. Good for her.