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Village of the Damned

• Captain & Wilson • Season 8 • Episode 167

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Captain and Wilson dive into John Carpenter's 1995 sci-fi horror film Village of the Damned, a remake that fails to capture the magic of the 1960 original but delivers some campy entertainment value. It stars Christopher Reeve, Kirstie Alley, and Mark Hamill.

The film discussion begins around 20:30.





Wilson:

uh, all right, let me get some numbs. Okay, let me get the. Okay, let me get the skorios really quick that's another fun one.

Captain:

I really would wear a t-shirt that says num, nums and hot goose.

Wilson:

I mean, I would too. That would be a fantastic shirt.

Captain:

Dude, I can't open this fucking can. That'd be a fantastic shirt, dude, I can't open this fucking can.

Wilson:

All right, are we ready to bop right in?

Captain:

I think so, I think I'm ready.

Wilson:

Do you remember a while ago we were talking about how you told me in New York City they were? Doing a casting call for Dexter. Yes, yes, well, I don't have any news about that, but oh, I was about to say if you did something without me I would be pissed like oh that's actually the real reason I went to new york.

Wilson:

No, um, no, I did look, though they were done. They were done filming by the time we. We went. Wow, um, but no, so, uh, actually, my boss sent me a link this week and she was like hey, you know, in case you're interested, I saw their um, they're gonna start filming soon for the movie hershey in pittsburgh, like next month what is that? It's um they're doing like a biopic type thing of Milton Hershey.

Captain:

Oh.

Wilson:

Yeah, and he's from Pittsburgh. I don't know how that comes into play. I don't know if they're just like shooting scenes here, but taking place somewhere else. I'm not sure.

Captain:

Okay.

Wilson:

But anyway, I signed up to be like a background actor. I haven't heard back yet, but I think yeah. So they wanted like all like your measurements and you'll be in like 1930s clothes or something like that. Uh, so it starts, I think, mid may, um, but yeah, I was like I'll just do it, or I mean I'll at least submit my interest to do it. We'll see if.

Captain:

I get a call back. How in-depth is this application to be in the movie?

Wilson:

There's nothing crazy. They really just want pictures of you, your availability and then your measurements.

Captain:

Okay.

Wilson:

So I imagine, if I.

Captain:

Did anyone else do it?

Wilson:

Not that I didn't share it with any friends, it's just my boss sent me the link so I was like I'll do it. Not that I didn't share it with any friends, it's just my boss sent me the link so I was like I'll do it or I'll sign up.

Captain:

I think that's so funny that your boss sent you the link, but they were like just because they think that you'd be interested. Yeah.

Wilson:

I feel like they just stumbled across that, oh, filming in pittsburgh, I know you like movies, um. But at the end she was like, yeah, hopefully like a saturday or sunday will work out. I looked at the forum and it's like we don't film on saturday or sundays. So she's gonna know you take, oh yeah like if I get a call like I'm gonna ask off and it's, it's her fault, she advertised yeah she can't say no oh yeah I'm looking.

Captain:

Yeah, as of 11 hours ago, one of the news posts that went in the news stations said that they're looking for extras yeah, so I'll let you know if anything happens from that.

Wilson:

Uh, it's, they say, if you get called in, it's like a 12 to 14 hour day, and then you have to say if you're interested to do several days so we'll see do you get paid to be an extra? You do it's like 225 per day oh, money, money honey.

Captain:

I mean I'm more excited, just like a cool experience. So I hope yeah, yeah, you can have your own imbd page with your acting credit I don't know if a background actor counts.

Wilson:

I don't know. We've seen some low budget films, yeah but I don't even know if this would count as background acting. You're just like sitting in a chair, yeah.

Captain:

Well, I don't know, you could try. I am very curious about I don't know.

Wilson:

I'm curious how it goes yeah, are there big names in the movie um, the guy playing milton is finn winchrock, which he's not a huge name, but you would recognize him from american horror story. Uh, I know he was in the Carnival one. I think you'd recognize his face.

Captain:

You didn't Finn. Who Not Wolfhard?

Wilson:

No, it's like Finn Wintrock or something.

Captain:

Oh Winn.

Wilson:

Winn Wittrock. Sorry, no N.

Captain:

Oh, wittrock, oh, this guy. Okay, yeah, he's in American Horror Story horror. That's the only place I recognize him.

Wilson:

I feel like he's um a scary person because of his american horror story yeah, yeah, because I just see like a creepy smile yes, exactly that's all I see, too, okay um, and then the actress, uh, I think his wife is, um, I feel like it was the one. What is her name? From the first season of white lotus, I think, uh, that's gonna. I'm sorry, I'm looking it up. Um, oh it, it is her Alexandra Daddario.

Captain:

Don't know.

Wilson:

Don't know, did you watch White Lotus?

Captain:

Yeah, but.

Wilson:

Oh, then you'd recognize her.

Captain:

Sir, that was so long ago, the first season I know that was too long, too far ago. Too far, too long ago Too far ago, too far, too long ago, too far ago, too far ago. Okay, well, that's exciting.

Wilson:

Yeah, I want one. I feel like they film a lot of things in Baltimore.

Captain:

Yeah, like DC Baltimore. But that's a lot of work, it really wasn't that much work though. I feel like you're probably right well, okay, the sign up.

Wilson:

The sign up wasn't hard yeah, that's true.

Captain:

Let's see how it goes for you, and then we'll see.

Wilson:

Yeah uh, so the other thing I wanted to to bring up um, do not laugh at me, you might have seen this on goodreads, but um, I recently decided that I would read all of twilight, like the, the twilight saga, because I never have and oh, you've only seen the movies yeah, and the movies are like. I like them. They're they're not amazing, but they're like fun entertainment okay so I just finished reading through all the books. I started like a month ago it was, it was um, it's pretty good, honestly there's no way.

Wilson:

There is no way I I do see like there are some times where I'm like this is terrible writing um, but it's still like. It's like dumb entertaining get your mind off of something reading. But yeah, I think I would recommend it if you're looking for, like some Nancy.

Captain:

No way, those are good, like I can't no, okay.

Wilson:

There is in Eclipse. There is a scene that has not aged well where, like Bella basically gets sexually assaulted and it's like glazed over a little too much.

Captain:

Is that early 2000s, those books?

Wilson:

Yes, yes.

Captain:

Sounds about right yeah.

Wilson:

But I mean, I think that book would have come out in like at least 2008 or something. So I don't know. I like the first two books. Their relationship is kind of weird. I do get the criticisms, but yeah.

Captain:

How different is it from the movies?

Wilson:

I will say that, the. I will say that, the. I will say the. It makes the movies less awkward or that, if you've watched them, there are a lot of scenes where you're like that reaction feels awkward or something somebody said, and in the book it makes more sense.

Captain:

Because there's more detailed background.

Wilson:

Yeah, there's more context behind that weird reaction in the movie, do you?

Captain:

still get you named our daughter after the Loch Ness Monster.

Wilson:

You do, yep, you get that one.

Captain:

There's like nothing more cringy than I that scene, I feel like yeah there's some bad ones, but that one is rough there's.

Wilson:

There have been, uh, like, interviews with stephanie meyer and she's like I'll reread this and just think why did I write it that way? That's so cringy, um, but honestly, my favorite book is it wasn't in the original saga. She rewrote the first book from edward's perspective and that was honestly the most interesting book I thought because it's all from bella's perspective yeah okay, so is it four books then um no, it's well, it's already four books, this would make it five.

Wilson:

And then there's a novella oh because there's twilight, new moon, eclipse, breaking dawn and then midnight. Sun is the is twilight from edward's perspective even those names are like eye roll.

Captain:

Well, enjoy.

Wilson:

I just finished it. Last night I've been watching each movie after I finished the book, so this weekend you're doing it like Harry Potter style.

Captain:

Yeah.

Wilson:

I was like why not? Wow but now when I watch the movies it feels like I never saw them before. I don't know why, but I'm like this movie is. That's very weird for you to say, but now when I watch the movies it feels like I never saw them before. I don't know why.

Captain:

But I'm like this movie is. That's very weird for you to say it looks brand new to me. That is so weird for you to say I feel like you love those movies. Yeah, I don't know, like in a what's that?

Wilson:

word, do not say obsessive.

Captain:

No, what's that phrase that people use um guilty pleasure?

Wilson:

yes, they are my guilty pleasure, but uh, I don't know do not say obsessive, okay, I've.

Captain:

I've been reading a little, but not as much as I wanted to. We've been watching the pit great show um severance done great show, yep we watched daredevil too. Did you watch that?

Wilson:

no, I was never really into daredevil. Did I tell you I started silo? I feel like you told me to watch that oh, I love silo.

Captain:

Silo's so good and you have two seasons.

Wilson:

I know I'm like I think I've watched six episodes and then I took a break when I started this like twilight binge. So now that I'm done, I think I'm gonna get back to it oh, it's really good.

Captain:

I love silo. It's great and it's one of the few ever since I started reading like crazy. I feel like the kindle has. I've ruined tv shows because I'm like I already read it, but Tyler's one of the few ones where I never read the books. So I get to enjoy it as the show. So that's nice. Like Apple TV has a show out right now called Dark Matter and I was like, oh, I would feel like I'd love that show, but I already read the whole book.

Wilson:

Ew.

Captain:

Yeah.

Wilson:

I think Finn is reading Dark Matter. He was going to start it.

Captain:

It's good, it's good.

Wilson:

Are you watching Righteous Gemstones?

Captain:

The new season I haven't started it. Is it good?

Wilson:

It is good it's the final season, but even the first, actually the second episode. I will warn you, the first episode is not any of the characters. They're doing a creative thing or whatever. It'll make sense later, but yeah.

Captain:

I liked Rachel's Gemstones, but it's never been a top show for me.

Wilson:

It's fine oh yeah, I mean it's not a top show, but Judy gemstone in the horrible things she says it's um very that guy's comedy, the um um, I'm blanking I know, I almost said jesse gemstone um daniel bride yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very. It's like not slapstick, but it is like physical and kind of like yelly or I don't know, like um yeah yeah, but it's like he is um, I feel like that would be easy for him to have like comedy that's not aging well, but he is adapting. He's's adapting it well.

Captain:

That's true. Yeah, because a lot of I could see him not Like. It would be a bad stumble for him. Yes, oh wait.

Wilson:

So that reminds me, since Walton Goggins is in Righteous Gemstones, did you watch the most recent season of?

Captain:

White Lotus Okay, yes, yeah, yeah. What did you?

Wilson:

think about it.

Captain:

It was probably my least favorite season.

Wilson:

Okay.

Captain:

But it was fine. I wasn't expecting it to connect so much to the previous season. So I kind of wish I rewatched season two before I watched it, because then I had to go back and Google a bunch of stuff.

Wilson:

Okay.

Captain:

But it was fine.

Wilson:

Yeah, at first I wasn't really feeling it. I think the, the theme song, definitely grew on me, and there's hot goss with that apparently.

Captain:

But oh yeah, the guy that was like fuck this show, yeah, but the extended version is on youtube so he does get to the.

Wilson:

The song does eventually get to the White Lotus sound the main melody, yeah, yeah. The ending. There's some parts of it I was like, but overall I really like the season.

Captain:

I'm just mad that that girl from Blackpink or whatever that Her role was pointless. Yeah, what the fuck was that?

Wilson:

Yeah, that storyline. I didn't love her and um uh day die talk right guy talk. I think it was yeah, yeah, yeah oh, yeah, yeah, um.

Captain:

I just that just pissed me off. I was like I don't why is this happening? And I don't, why is this happening and I don't like that Walter Goggins and his girlfriend like don't really make a lot of sense, like there's not a lot of depth. Besides, she just wants to get like trampled over, like if we got some backstory as to like how they got together, why he means so much to her, but like it doesn't really track that's fair.

Wilson:

That is a fair criticism. Yeah, so you hated the season yeah, it really wasn't my favorite.

Captain:

It was fine wow I I feel like if I went, if I went back and rewatch season one and two, i'd'd be like this is White Lotus.

Wilson:

Oh yeah, I mean, those are amazing seasons.

Captain:

Yeah, and I feel kind of bad because this is the only season that Jay watched.

Wilson:

How has he not watched the other seasons?

Captain:

Because I don't think he would like them that much. To be honest, they're kind of a slow character show and not really plot-driven much and I just don't, I just feel like he wouldn't. I don't know, I just feel like he wouldn't really like them. And then we started watching this one and I don't know he watched the whole thing but I don't think. Again, I don't think it was his favorite either.

Wilson:

Yikes.

Captain:

It was a bad season to start with. Well, I either, yikes, it was a bad season to start with.

Wilson:

Well, I mean, if you said he wouldn't like the other ones, anyway, I guess it doesn't definitely would have liked the other ones better well, there we go, so uh I feel like that's a low bar now if he was okay with this season, you could easily show him the other ones yeah, and I think he was okay but okay.

Captain:

I guess he can only go up yes but yeah, we've been watching like a lot more TV. Honestly, I feel like there was something else we were watching too we just started Loot that one's good it is good.

Wilson:

I don't love season 2 as much so far no season 1's better it's probably gonna get cancelled, but we'll see. I don't love season two as much so far. No, season one's better, it's probably going to get canceled, but we'll see.

Captain:

Oh, and you said you don't watch Invincible. No, you never got into it. No.

Wilson:

I've been kind of staying off, not purposely. But Amazon Prime, I just there's, I don't know, there's like nothing. I there's not a lot I want on there and we just have like the ad version or we never, upgraded after they changed the tiers, so there's something on Netflix I feel like I oh my gosh on Max.

Captain:

Okay, this is super random, but I have been getting into watching like a bunch of like those like three part true crime docu documentary.

Wilson:

The ones that, like never have a satisfying ending.

Captain:

Kind of, but um the one about army hammers family dude. I would recommend that one on max. I was like damn, damn.

Wilson:

Okay, I'd watch that.

Captain:

Yeah, that one on max, I was like damn damn okay, I'd watch that. Yeah, that one was like because I heard about the whole like jokes about how he's a cannibal but yeah, I never really like read about the story but it talks about that. But it talks about like, um, that's just like the tip of the iceberg with the family and I was like, oh so I don't know. I would recommend watching it. That one was good.

Wilson:

That one's on max. I'll add that to the list.

Captain:

Yeah, but yeah, do you want to? How are we feeling?

Wilson:

Bop in.

Captain:

You know you know.

Wilson:

Okay. So first, are you enjoying any sort of beverage?

Captain:

Yeah, I was having my Corona Premier. Nice With the lime, the lime I I'm having a, a cherry, truly your um hair. Is that grown out or are you re-frosting?

Wilson:

oh um. I got tired of being completely blonde, so when it got just long enough, I cut it, but I couldn't get all the blonde out, so there's still a little bit. It looks like it's frosted. Yeah, I can it, but I couldn't get all the blonde out, so there's still a little bit it looks like it's frosted yeah, I can't.

Wilson:

Obviously I can't gel it, because then I'll have frosted tips um, but as soon as it's bad yeah, so I don't know, but as soon as it's long enough that I can cut it, and it won't be a buzz, it's out of here oh, wow, okay, wow, okay Sorry.

Captain:

I just was like it's really showing off in the light right now.

Wilson:

You're welcome.

Captain:

I feel like if you just rock with confidence, it just looks like you just frosted as high you're going, oh yeah.

Wilson:

Yeah, I do like it, but I'm ready for it to be gone. Also I can't have it for the Hershey movie. If I'm called for that because people didn't really dye their hair, then that's fair. Yeah.

Captain:

Well, you got to keep your acting physique all together. Make sure you get it. I get it. I know what you're talking about.

Wilson:

You're in the biz.

Captain:

Yeah, okay, sorry for interrupting. Oh, you're good, you're in the biz.

Wilson:

Yeah, okay, sorry for interrupting oh, you're good, you're good. Okay, so I had a drink. I have a drink.

Captain:

Yeah, we have them.

Wilson:

I'll pull us in here, skrrt.

Captain:

Skrrt.

Wilson:

Welcome to the 167th episode of the Red Room Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two.

Captain:

Oh, and I'm Captain.

Wilson:

And I'm Wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 1995 science fiction horror film Village of the Damned. I swear, every time I try to say the name of this movie I, my brain wants to say children of the corn uh, that's fair. I I totally understand for a long time I got the movies confused because, like I knew, village of the damned had children, so it's like you know they're not that far off no, they're not. They, they're really not.

Captain:

This, definitely this movie, though, is like there's not a lot. Well, I well, I had some thoughts feelings, yes, but um, I think tilt in the corner has a little bit more depth yes, yeah, I wonder if this oh sorry, I was like john carpenter, it is which is surprising, um, but I did read some hot goss.

Wilson:

I'll just share it now okay because it's it is relevant um that. It's about John Carpenter In an interview in 2011, he described this film as a contractual assignment and that he wasn't really passionate about it.

Captain:

Damn Okay.

Wilson:

I guess that's clear.

Captain:

Yeah, I see it.

Wilson:

I know actors get stuck in movies sometimes, I guess contractually, so that's how they end up in these. You see really A-list actors in these terrible movies.

Captain:

I mean, now they get contractually obligated to do a certain number of Netflix, don't they do that with? I can't remember who it was, but somebody was forced to do a certain number of Netflix movies. Oh, and then Blumhouse has that thing with Hulu, halloween or whatever, where they had to do a certain number of movies.

Wilson:

You mean Huluween?

Captain:

Is that what it was?

Wilson:

I think that's what they call it. I mean, why would they not? It's a perfect setup.

Captain:

Yeah, I guess, but I don't think that's. I don't know. Maybe they did and I'm stupid.

Wilson:

I don't know. I just don't feel like there's any way that I created that term myself.

Captain:

It's so genius. So creative it's so, uh, genius so creative.

Wilson:

Yeah, um, okay, so all right. So yeah, it's directed by john carpenter, written by david himmelstein. Um, john carpenter, you will recognize, did the thing the halloween fresh us. Uh, christine, they live. You know, I've, I know, I've seen they live, but because the title, I never remember which movie it is yeah, I don't know.

Captain:

I I think about christine a lot. I really liked that shockingly that actually is a really good movie I don't think I rated it super high, but like looking back on it I was like that was a cool concept movie and then it was executed yes, I went.

Wilson:

I probably said this on the episode we did christine, but I went to high school somebody that looks exactly like the main character like christine the car. Yes, yes, yeah, they just drove around the school like that. Uh no, I think richie comment noham. No wait, richie Cunningham, is that not Happy Days?

Captain:

Girl.

Wilson:

That's such a 1950s name.

Captain:

Richie.

Wilson:

Yeah, I just looked it up. No, that's Happy Days. That's Ron Howard's character. Let me Hold on.

Captain:

Did you just have to look up Christine Kast, arnie Cunningham Is that who you're talking?

Wilson:

oh, yes, yes, okay. So I knew, the last name is cunningham okay keith gordon.

Captain:

The cunningham is the name of the character did you say the cunningham? No, I said cunningham the name is yeah, it's the last name of the character, not the actor yeah oh, oh, sorry oh okay, yeah, I guess I actually didn't say that, but um, yeah, anyway.

Wilson:

No, the guy from my high school looks exactly like him like keith gordon yeah or at least how he looks in Christine.

Captain:

He's looking a little rough right now.

Wilson:

Yeah but I think I first met this person when I also first saw that movie, so it just felt really weird.

Captain:

You're like hi Kevin, him like Spongebob. Hi Kevin, yeah, okay, he looks like a more normal person in pictures from the movie in the pictures.

Wilson:

So, uh, okay, so we had. Yeah, all right, we were talking about john carpenter, what he did. Um, okay, so cast there's some good names in here. Well, okay, there's some all right names. Um, I'll say the big name is christopher christopher reeve, who played superman. Um, he's the actor that uh became paralyzed by that horse accident. Um, I first learned about him from smallville when he showed up as a special guest.

Captain:

Um, oh yeah, I forgot, I wrote this. Yeah, I guess there's a documentary about him.

Wilson:

I guess that doesn't surprise me, but I haven't seen it.

Captain:

They used some footage of him like after he Is he dead.

Wilson:

He is.

Captain:

Okay.

Wilson:

Yeah, so Sorry. I'm going to skip to the bigger name actors. First Christy Alley. Well, I was going to say Mark the bigger name actors.

Captain:

First Christy Alley.

Wilson:

Well, I was going to say Mark Hamill.

Captain:

Oh right.

Wilson:

As you should all know, is Luke Skywalker. He was in House of the Usher. He's a prominent voice actor. I forgot he was in the House of Usher. I really liked that show. Dude, that was like peak tv, yeah uh, um, anyway, yep, so, uh, as you said, we did have kirsty alley um, we don't really like her, but she is also we don't like her.

Captain:

She has also passed away, so, oh, are we not what? We don't like her because of um some bad things.

Wilson:

Uh, she was canceled somehow, or oh you know what? She's a scientologist and she supports some people that I do not support.

Captain:

That's fair. That's fair she never really did much besides cheers right.

Wilson:

She was in the Mary-Kate and Ashley movie. It Takes Two which I loved that movie when I was younger.

Captain:

It's good. I was more obsessed with their movie with the sleepover, where they do the pizza song.

Wilson:

Did I ever tell you that's our trivia team's name and inspiration. Which I've never seen that movie.

Captain:

I can't believe. You've never, you still haven't watched it no. Y'all should get your trivia team together and watch that movie.

Wilson:

I honestly think they have seen it. I just have not.

Captain:

I've looked up the scene, but that's it. Do they know you haven't seen it Because I've looked up the scene, but that's it. Do they know you haven't seen it because I'm?

Wilson:

going to tell them? And they're going to tie you down in a chair? Probably should. Every time we get a question right, a graphic that we choose displays on the screen and then audio plays like every team can pick their audio clip and it's like the voiceover from that movie it's that sound girl.

Captain:

Oh my god, I would, I would die so hard.

Wilson:

P-i-z-z-a yeah, that is so funny yep, that's hysterical. You really need to watch that movie let me add it to my letterboxd watch list, which I have noticed you haven't been using watch list, or?

Captain:

yeah, I actually totally forgot about letterboxd until like 15 minutes before we started our movie tonight.

Wilson:

Like I legit forgot it existed well, actually one thing I was going to ask you about letterboxd, just quick aside. Um, whenever you rate movies I don't know if you know this or not, but I don't your friends don't see that you rated them, unless when you click on the movie you say review and log, like if you just put stars instead of clicking review or log, then I don't see on my feed that you watched it oh yeah, we talked about that, it's really not user-friendly and it's kind of stupid yeah hey, I didn't say that out loud.

Wilson:

No, I do like the app anyway. I think the letter.

Captain:

God, gods are gonna letterbox. Gods are coming down here to smite me, I mean you never know who's listening to this podcast.

Wilson:

Oh my god. Uh, all right, all right, it's Kat Back to the cast. So we have Linda Kozlowski. She was in Crocodile Dundee. She plays one of the mothers. Michael Perret, there's nothing here, yeah.

Captain:

I don't know, these are like the top build people, but to be honest, I'm oh okay, I know who Frank is, okay.

Wilson:

Okay, then we had Meredith Salinger. She was in, like Placid, secret Life of Pets. Was that one or two or both of them?

Captain:

I think it's the first one. There's like a crazy cat lady that has a lot of cats.

Wilson:

Married to.

Captain:

Patton the first one there's like a crazy cat lady that has a lot of cats married to patten alswalt.

Wilson:

Yeah, I don't know who that is. Yeah also, yes, I do, I just don't remember her she.

Captain:

You forgot that she's a doctor. Oh wait, I don't know. She's a doctor. She has a.

Wilson:

She has a psychology degree from harvard okay, so she's, but I don't know if it's a doctorate degree oh well, is she the girl? Well, we'll talk about later.

Captain:

Um, and then we have peter jason fuck is ben in this movie ben ben blum.

Wilson:

You don't know who Ben Blum is.

Captain:

Oh, okay, tell me who Ben Blum is.

Wilson:

I see his picture from 2006 and I'm trying to. I think he was the guy.

Captain:

Is he the?

Wilson:

who I thought it would come to me by the time I finished that sentence. Oh, I know who he is.

Captain:

I know who he is. I know who he is. Who is he he is? I know who he is, who is he? He's the guy that was gone for a year in Japan.

Wilson:

Oh.

Captain:

Welcome home, ben, you got that.

Wilson:

Yep, yep, yep, tracking. All right, let's jump in the movie.

Captain:

Did you say that he's done seven John Carpenter movies?

Wilson:

I think I mumbled something.

Captain:

John carpenter movie well, he's done seven of them good for him okay, hit me all right.

Wilson:

So, um, hopping into this movie, um, basically, the movie starts out with, like you see, I don't know, like 10 minutes of just it's a small town, people are getting ready for this like festival, whatever, and we meet a few characters. You can tell some of them want to get pregnant. They're not, you know it's. We're seeing various couples and their lives as they're getting ready for this festival school fair yeah, and I every man in this movie looked exactly the same.

Captain:

I did not know who who was who. They're all just like medium build, medium hair, medium men all brown hair. It's like white men with brown hair I was like I don't know who the fuck. Then I was like okay, I recognize. It's like okay, I recognize Spooperman, spooperman.

Wilson:

Spooperman.

Captain:

But that was it. It took me a while to figure out what was going on.

Wilson:

But I got it. Yeah, so now basically the doctor Christopher Reeve, who's basically the main character.

Captain:

Dr Allen.

Wilson:

Allen McGowan.

Captain:

I don't like how that sounds Allen McGowan, allen McGowanowan.

Wilson:

Dr Alan Chaffrey no, you're right, they just call him Alan. You're right, I had the names mixed up. So he, basically Him and his wife, are trying to get pregnant. He leaves the town for the afternoon to go do doctor stuff Somewhere else. So everyone else is left in the town for the afternoon to go do doctor stuff somewhere else. So everyone else is left in the town.

Captain:

Well, Frank's sent off to get helium, but he's still affected.

Wilson:

Yeah, I think he doesn't go very far, or like he's on his way back and at one point it's like 10 am. Everyone passes out. With wispy yeah, wispy winds yeah right before this, there were a lot of like dark class or like shadows and they, but they were like. The wind sounds like it's whispering earlier okay, yeah so like everybody, faints yes so we see a couple scenes of like people that were driving they crash. For example, this guy you just mentioned getting helium.

Captain:

He hit like a another truck and just blew up I think it was a fence post, but yeah, it is. I mean, michael bay style explodes. I was like I was watching this and I was like, oh, okay, that's. You did tell me it was.

Wilson:

This was campy yeah, not expecting the explosion budget, but I I forget how this movie was released, but it is giving like sci-fi movie um even the animals, even the cattle, faint too oh yes, yeah, every, every living thing, basically faints oh yeah, there's a pet bird or something yeah, um, I will say I can't say.

Wilson:

I will say, um, the there's the girl that, like, fell asleep in the bathtub that lived, but okay, these people are asleep for six hours. She wakes up and, like the bathtub's filled obviously. Do you know how much damage to your house would be done after six hours? Whatever, that's all I can think about that scene. Um, but anyway, before they wake up, the doctor or like some policemen, get to the town line and they notice people are passing out as soon as they cross this line.

Captain:

So they're calling it was a mess of like cops. Yeah, uh, epidemiologists like detectives. Like there was a mess of like cops. Yeah, epidemiologists like detectives. Like there was a fuck ton of people there that were like blocking the town off before Dr Allen can get back.

Wilson:

Yeah.

Captain:

And then they just chalk off the road where the town ends, I guess Because they don't want anyone to enter.

Wilson:

But clearly it's not like gaseous, because it's like to a very defined line yeah, so when he, when he gets there, yeah, they're like talking about you know how it's a clearly a fine line. So they send in a police officer on a rope, he passes out, they pull him back and then, you know, a minute later people start waking up. It's six hours later, 4 pm.

Captain:

And we meet Susan Verner in this scene, which she is like the lead epidemiologist on the case, like she works for the National Science Council or something.

Wilson:

Yeah, kirstie Alley. Oh yeah, Sorry, kirstie Alley, yeah.

Captain:

I don't know if that's real, but she's a main character in this movie.

Wilson:

Yeah, I was like I don't know if that's real either. It just sounded fake and I'm like can we not name real agencies Because I know you mentioned, like NASA later or the NIH?

Captain:

Yeah, yeah, I don't know, she tried.

Wilson:

Yeah, she did try. So basically, obviously when everyone starts waking up, they go in, inspect everyone and then within a couple days or weeks you start to realize all these women are pregnant.

Captain:

Every single fertile woman of age is pregnant.

Wilson:

Yes, and they realize it all happened on the same day and that's where everyone has that realization, like during the blackout, what they were raped or something you know.

Captain:

Yeah, they were inseminated somehow. We also meet, we see Frank's funeral and we also meet Mark Camel at that time because he's a priest, but I guess he's not, so like I don't know. I was confused because-.

Wilson:

He has a wife.

Captain:

He has a wife. So I was like, okay, not like a priest, but some type of pastor. But he had the white collar thing which I thought was like only Catholic priests.

Wilson:

My only, the only difference, I think, with the collar, like what the Catholic ones are, like it's all black until it's white right in the center, whereas like his are like it's all black until it's white right in the center whereas, like his was white the whole way around.

Captain:

Oh, it was yeah, oh, okay. Well, he has a wife too. That's also pregnant yeah I think, yes and we also get the um ben, welcome home ben and ben's wife's pregnant and Ben was pissed the fuck off because he's been away in Japan for like a whole year. Okay, I'm stupid, because I was like, why is Ben so mad? And it took me like literally 10 minutes later of watching it he'd be like oh, I'm dumb. Obviously he was not here to be the father.

Wilson:

Right.

Captain:

It's just like not putting that together.

Wilson:

And so obviously that's a fair reaction. But he's also having this reaction after it's clear that every other woman in town was inseminated while they were passed out. So are you saying she cheated on you or like I don't?

Captain:

I mean, if you, okay, your first thought is going to be that she cheated and not that, like she was, I don't know, inseminated by an alien wilson, like that's not gonna be your first thought.

Wilson:

Well, no, but like obviously when they had that party and the person was like oh, I'm taking pictures, like smile for your pregnancy, and you get that awkward look between ben and his wife like yeah, then when it just seems like you're pregnant, obviously you cheated. But I'm just like, whenever it's explained to him and the town that every single woman is pregnant on the same day during the blackout, I'd be like, hmm okay, maybe the party.

Captain:

The party was like early on.

Wilson:

I I understand like oh yeah, I just think he was mad too long okay, that's fair. He was mad until the baby was literally pushed out, and then I'm like I'm here all right, I mean I guess you finally realized, but whatever, um so anyway, you know it kind of like fast forwards ish through the pregnancies, uh we.

Captain:

We have the town hall with kirstie allie explaining that she'll pay them to keep the babies if she can do science on them yeah, so it ends up being like eight women uh, yeah, yeah.

Captain:

So she yeah, eight of them basically kept it and she said like, yeah, I will pay you a gazillion dollars if you keep it and we can do long term tests on it. This is the NIH, like they're the reason why we're scientifically interested in this, and if you terminate, we'll even bring a medical team next week that will allow you to do that. I don't understand, but during the pregnancy, the women also had these like weird dreams where, where there were goddesses in robes smiling at the light. I don't really know what that was about. They don't really explain that later on and I thought that was going to come into play, but it's just a weird scene. And then you get the birthing scene.

Wilson:

Yes.

Captain:

Did you read this book?

Wilson:

I did not, but I'm kind of curious.

Captain:

Now I feel like that's got to make more. You read this book? I did not, but I'm kind of curious. Now I feel like that's got to make more sense, yeah oh yeah, well, at least I would hope so.

Wilson:

Um, I feel like there's something I was gonna say. Oh yeah, the one thing I wasn't sure about. So every woman in town is pregnant. We also have varner saying at one point, no one's chose to terminate the pregnancy and we end up with eight women.

Captain:

How small is this town. I was really confused because at first it literally looked like 50 yeah so I was. I also was like these numbers are not matching, but I was just gonna let it be yeah, so we're letting that be because even after they give birth, and they have that scene of them all getting baptisms by Mark Hamill. I'm like that looked like there was 50 women in there still.

Wilson:

Yeah, so I don't know, so anyway, they all give birth.

Captain:

One of them, yeah.

Wilson:

One of the eight dies during birth, so there's only seven of these healthy children who end up being very pale, white, blonde hair.

Captain:

Very, what's that? What is that called? When you're like Albino.

Wilson:

Oh, it's two different words.

Captain:

Both of those things. But yeah, kirstieie alley's character, dr verner, um, she like steals the stillbirth baby, like she wraps it no one's allowed to see it. She tells people she does an autopsy on it but like uh, she doesn't let anyone see it or hold it and she kind of like sneaks it off to a clinic.

Wilson:

Yeah, and we see this baby later on and it's like an alien baby and I'm like I have several questions.

Captain:

I have questions too.

Wilson:

Why does it look like an alien baby but none of the other babies look like alien babies?

Captain:

And why is it like grown a bit, like it's not immediate birth size?

Wilson:

Yeah, I don't know.

Captain:

That's another point you have to gloss over, I guess when she wrapped it up in the. Obviously there's nothing in that blanket that she's holding but when she? When she wrapped it up it's like literally the size of like a soda can like yeah, I was like I wasn't an early birth yeah, I mean she said it was uh, yeah, it was like a, yeah, like full term, but it had its umbilical cord wrapped around its neck. I'm like, okay, well, it should be a little bigger than what that blanket is.

Wilson:

All they need to do is stuff like a bag of potato chips in there and it'd be fine. I get, yeah anything I don't know, but it's a rolled up blanket yeah, so um, so it kind of cuts for or jumps maybe a couple of years, you know. So the kids are like late or like early toddler age, and then this is where we see mostly it's the interaction with the doctor's wife and the kid like starts getting like glowy eyes. I think it's the first glowy eye scene, right, or it just stares.

Captain:

I think it's the first glowy eye scene. Right, or it just stares. I think it's the first glowy eye scene. Yeah, you see the one scene before that where david is like a year old maybe and he can spell his name already and they're like you're weird yeah and then, yeah, and then she goes to her friend's house I think it's melanie with the, with the baby, with the glowy eyes, with the boiling soup yes yeah yeah, and she like, it's clear the baby with her glowing eyes.

Wilson:

Telepathy forces the mom to stick her arm in this boiling water. Yeah, yeah, uh. So she ends up in the hospital, as one does in that type of situation. Um, and then?

Captain:

she like basically the next scene. She like kills herself, Doesn't she?

Wilson:

Yeah, I think sometime passes because her arm is entirely healed. Um, but she does jump off a cliff and it's pretty clear the child like compelled her to do that. I think she was already depressed.

Captain:

This is Superman's wife.

Wilson:

Yes.

Captain:

Right, yeah, um, I can that. I think she was already depressed. This is superman's wife. Yes, right, yeah, um, I, I can't remember. I think it's around the same time. You do hear dr verner talk about the fact that there have been a couple of accident quote-unquote accidents but there are suicides like around this um. But she's like has gotten enough funding from the nh to continue this study, um, but the children are basically like all identical albino children.

Wilson:

They clearly don't look anything like their parents, so like they're clearly not biologically related to these people yes, and I think at this point it jumps to, like you know, they're six or seven or something, and that's where they have, like these gray outfits, like you said, the like perfect blonde hair and they walk in like a weird like two lines four by four, but it's really like three by four yeah, because david doesn't have a pair.

Captain:

Yeah, so it's it's four. No, sorry, it's five boys and four girls. No, yeah okay, yeah, there were 10 kids, okay, they were supposed to be 10, yeah, um, and at this point, yeah. So they walk around town like that a lot, like it's very creepy.

Wilson:

And then you get the scene of david looking for his stillbirth baby partner because it can like the, because these kids clearly have like some sort of telepathy and they're like advanced knowledge and he knows he was supposed to have a pair.

Captain:

Yeah, he says I was looking for my mate or my pair or something, and even his mom. So these kids clearly scare their parents, except David who doesn't have a mate. His mom does actually love him and she is talking with Dr Allen about it and was like what do you mean pair, like mates? And she's definitely I don't know. She definitely cares about him in a more motherly way. But these children should not be trusted. Then you get the scene of them killing the drunk maintenance guy at the school.

Wilson:

Yeah, and their eyes go like so I feel like the lowest intensity for their eye power is like green or something.

Captain:

And then when they're like really mad.

Wilson:

it turns like white and then red, or like red and then white.

Captain:

I love that you were tracking this. I was not tracking that at all. I think they were like I don't know. I was like they're just playing with fun colors.

Wilson:

Yeah, I think red is like when they're pissed.

Captain:

Because he hits one of them with the broom.

Wilson:

Yes, he didn't necessarily mean to, but he wasn't mad about it either.

Captain:

He was yelling at him. Yeah, so they basically like forced these people to kill themselves this was brutal, because they make him climb up to the top of a building and then fall on his broom to, like, stab himself yeah it was rough yes, um, oh that.

Wilson:

Uh, before we got too far, david, this is an actor we did not cover in the actor section. This is like a B-list actor now.

Captain:

Wait, David.

Wilson:

Yeah.

Captain:

Thomas Decker the fuck he's been in stuff. I thought one of the kids not David, but one of them looked like the Sprouse brothers, the one that was hit with the broom. He looked like Billy and Dylan.

Wilson:

Sprouse, but the timeline doesn't work out.

Captain:

No, not quite Close, but not quite yeah, Because this was in 95 and those kids were like Maybe 10, right.

Wilson:

Yeah, however, yeah.

Captain:

Yeah, Anyway, who's what did you say his name was?

Wilson:

Thomas Decker D-E-K-K-E-R. Oh, K-K K, I don't know him Well I know him from Heroes, which you decided you didn't like.

Captain:

Wilson, it wasn't that good I wanted it to be.

Wilson:

I really did yeah I don't recognize him uh, well, it looks like he did like land, but sorry, land before time. Voices like oh, okay, then I definitely should recognize him he did a little foot's voice in land before time five I do fuck with little foot okay yeah, looks like he did original he did late little foot, I guess, so he did movie five through third. Uh, sorry, 13.

Captain:

I was like I missed some, sorry.

Wilson:

No, no, no, no.

Captain:

Yeah, I definitely watched Land Before Time one through four a lot more than any of the others. Those are the OG ones.

Wilson:

I think I've seen a Land Before Time. Yeah, you're very not in the know when it comes to kids movies, which I like, kids movies, but like I guess, I just you're hearing it first, right now uh, yeah, I don't know, I just watched other ones um, yeah, so where they killed, killed the maintenance dude. And this is where, like, the doctor is conflicted, because Dr Verner wants Dr Allen to teach the kids humanity. And he's like they're evil. I'm not doing that.

Captain:

Yeah, but when they have that discussion, Dr Verner explains to him that this has happened before. They are not the only ones. She says it's always in a remote community, small town like an hour outside of Anchorage, Alaska, or like some I can't remember the other one she mentioned, but it was like outside of the US but it's like they have a large number of sudden births after a blackout. They have a large number of sudden births after a blackout and she thinks that the offspring are usually unrelated to their parent, more like their parent is a host. But she wants to understand them more because she didn't get a lot of information about the other towns this happened to.

Wilson:

She does, I think, show Alan the alien body she does, but she also tells them the government blows up these towns oh did she yeah, I think she said well, maybe not quite here, but she she's sharing a warning because she's like, once they get out of control, the government blows up the town. So you need to get out of here.

Captain:

I thought later on in the movie she says that. But she says it almost as if she just now realized like, oh my gosh, this town's like I don't know.

Wilson:

She's a terrible doctor if she just now realized that, like eight years later.

Captain:

But yeah. So then, yeah, you're right. Eight years later, um, but yeah. So then, yeah, you're right, the alan was like kind of teaching them, but the children, it's like the children I don't know they're not children, but they were like we've decided to live in a barn together because they're tired of living with their parents yeah, and but at this point, uh, dr alan has agreed to try to teach them humanity, because he kind of sees it in David.

Captain:

Yeah, david does have a little bit, yeah. And then what they kill? They kill another father, is it Ben? They kill one of them.

Wilson:

Yeah, and they also end up killing the pastor.

Captain:

Yes. And then Allen is like, he confronts them, the children. He's like fuck this. He's like why don't you feel anything, you don't have any emotions? Why, what is your species? And they basically say why would you deal with, why would you live life with useless emotions with? Why would you live life with like useless emotions? Um like. And then he says why, when? Why can't we just live like side by side, like symbolic.

Wilson:

Oh my gosh, what's that word?

Captain:

uh yeah and they were like ew, we would dominate you and you're useless yeah basically um, and then it just gets real crazy, like there's a shootout or something yes, oh mark hamill dies, I think I think his wife dies because she's like pissed because he died because he did try to like sniper a kid or something.

Wilson:

Yeah, um, yeah. And at this point so Dr Allen was thinking he could help the kids but then he realized they needed to die. So in this scene where he's talking with the main girl, Jill, I think. I guess this is his daughter Jill his daughter oh, oh oh, those people, the aliens oh yeah, jill, her name's jill no, jill is like the.

Captain:

The woman that dr allen hit her is his love interest what's the um, the name of the main? Uh child, uh I didn't get any of the kids names besides david he says her name like 60 times um he does yeah, because she's like the leader just call her leader. I don't know what hold on.

Wilson:

I need the name I didn't catch it. You would try you would recognize it it was mara oh, okay, that's fair, I do remember, okay, well, anyway, so when he's having that discussion with mara, what he was actually doing was bringing explosives in his briefcase and he's trying to get david to sneak out, but keep the kids in there yes, and keep the kids in there so they explode, and before he explodes them.

Captain:

We see them confront Dr Werner and they get to see their stillbirth sibling. Not all of them. There's only like three of them in there. I'm not really sure why they split up, but then they make her slice herself open from like belly button to neck, so she's out of here with turquoise or red eyes, I don't know. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Wilson:

I kind of forgot she died, but it was just another gruesome one, like they were mad.

Captain:

So they were like we're going to make her supper.

Wilson:

Yes, but anyway. Yeah, so they're back in this barn. The shootout happened outside. And then these kids like there's a visualization of Mara trying to get inside of the doctor's brain to see what he's hiding. So there's like visualizations of like a brick wall that she's like chipping away at. So at the last second she breaks through and sees that he was hiding his thoughts about the bomb While she's doing this. This is where her face does the full color.

Captain:

The whole face glows.

Wilson:

It's alien-y-ish.

Captain:

Yeah, her skin is translucent with how much light is coming through. And it's definitely not a human body.

Wilson:

Yeah. So anyway, she realizes it's too late. It's a bomb, the shed explodes, the children are gone, and so is Dr Allen.

Captain:

But Jill and David got out of there, even though Allen, yeah, he blows them up, but he blows himself up too. Can we talk about the shootout scene? So, before he blows them up, the cops come and they're shooting out the alien kids. Dude, that shootout scene was fucking wild. Like at the end there are like a dozen cops and military people that those kids killed.

Wilson:

Yeah.

Captain:

Like I was not expecting the explosive budget for this movie and I was not expecting a fucking shootout, like I know. It was like, uh, like evil children. But what is this action movie that I'm watching all of a sudden?

Wilson:

I want to see that. This action scene got me excited like I want to see a remake of this so bad, with like a higher budget, just like evil kids doing crazy shit sounds like a really good time that's fair.

Captain:

I they could do the eye scene better. They do a lot of eye stuff, which is it looks fine, but it could be better like the most in-depth one was when they have that um person, what ophthalmologist examining their eyes and she like she fucked up what the fuck? Why does she have super glue right next to the eye?

Wilson:

well, yeah, I don't know what this eye poison stuff is, but why would it ever be in an eye capsule? It?

Captain:

looked. It looked like glue to me, like I thought it was like super glue, but like it would literally never exist in an optimal, especially right next to the eye drops.

Wilson:

Um, but yeah, she got fucked up yeah, yeah, I mean I don't blame the kids in that situation. Obviously it was a mistake, but you did almost blind a child. I think if they were to remake this movie, they would not give the kids the glowing eyes, I think they would, oh really. I feel like they would think that's too cheap, even though I want the glowing eyes. So I'll be mad if it doesn't happen.

Captain:

Yeah, they could probably do it, but, yeah, the movie just ends with Jill getting David out safely because he does have a wee bit of empathy and human emotions. At one point, mara even tells him he is quote unquote less useful and concerning, but they can't leave him behind. Less useful and concerning, but they can't leave him behind. Like they tell him, like we can't just like leave you behind even though you don't have a mate and you're like a little human I'm like damn this this, this little actress.

Captain:

She's pretty good, she plays like yeah, where is she now?

Wilson:

actually. Well, I uh, I stalked her instagram this week because I was like I wonder what she does. So she doesn't act in a bunch, but she does reference this movie, sometimes Lindsay Hahn, h-a-u-n.

Wilson:

I wasn't sure if it was her at first, and then I saw her mouth and I was like like I wasn't sure if it was her at first, and then I saw her mouth and I was like that. I remember that girl had like a, a natural, just like grimace, I don't know. I feel like she has a distinctive smile and as soon as I saw the picture I was like, yep, that's her is she a public account? Yeah.

Captain:

Like normal weight.

Wilson:

Yeah Well with an E.

Captain:

L-I-N-D-S-E-Y-H-U-A-N.

Wilson:

H-A-U-N.

Captain:

Oh.

Wilson:

She's blonde.

Captain:

Oh, I see her, I see you girl.

Wilson:

I see you.

Captain:

Oh, I see the face, the smile yeah.

Wilson:

Yeah.

Captain:

She said that her. Did you see her bio that? Yes, that's a picture of my placenta on the Wikipedia entry for placenta.

Wilson:

I did and I went and like looked at the picture and I was like okay.

Captain:

Does it just look like a human placenta?

Wilson:

Yeah, it looks like a freshly birthed human placenta, okay, Great Good to know. I was just I was expecting when I saw the picture be like uh, you know.

Captain:

Source lindsey hahn or like her face in the corner, like pointing yeah, like, yeah um, but no, uh, wait.

Wilson:

Okay, so before I guess I get in the num nums, did you have anything else? I know you, you wanted to revisit that scene, but was there anything else you want to touch?

Captain:

on the other question I had. So like for me the biggest problem with this movie is like, okay, they maybe technology was different in 1995, like I don't know. But like wouldn't you immediately, at least when I get a paternity test, like, like when they're babies, you know, it's not obvious that they're not related to you, but I feel like a lot of the fathers are concerned, like ben, and I'm like wouldn't the first thing you want to do is like get that checked out. And dr verner even says like they did some tests, whatever the fuck that means, but they're inconclusive. And I'm like what maternity tests are not like? Those are not inconclusive. Those are very clear. Like you have dna, the baby has dna. I don't know.

Wilson:

It's just like why that would be the first thing you would do, like I don't know why that I don't know I yeah, I think it just needs more time, like I really think this movie would be a good miniseries, like not enough for a feature film, but like a miniseries would let you get these like answers to questions that yeah, this has got to make more sense in the book. I feel like Well, now I think we should both read it. You read books, I read terrible books you read.

Captain:

Wow, we have so much in common. A village, let me see A village. I'm trying to see if it's. I'm trying to see how long this is. This is a book, right?

Wilson:

The book is called the Midwich Cuckoos.

Captain:

Oh, fuck me Okay. Why Are you lying to me?

Wilson:

No, I looked at it because when I clicked on the Wikipedia article it said based on the 1960 movie. I clicked on that and it said based on the 1957 novel the Midwich Cuckoos.

Captain:

With K-O-O or C-O-O.

Wilson:

C-U-C-K-O-O-S.

Captain:

Oh God.

Wilson:

I know.

Captain:

I forgot how to spell cuckoos. I don't ever spell that word. Oh, is it like a short story? That's like in a book of other short stories, uh, couldn't tell you also, apparently there was a mini series oh, is that what was the one that looked like newer?

Wilson:

maybe um how many pages this book? Sorry, I'm getting distracted um I can't tell so it's a british show. There were seven episodes from 2022.

Captain:

I told you it looked brand new. It was like when I typed it in my tv.

Wilson:

I think you'd like it well, shit, okay, hold on, let me.

Captain:

I'm gonna add this to my list whilst I'm thinking about it whilst, I don't know if that's a word oh, the mid-rich cuckoos has um good reviews what we're missing out on a good show it actually has, like the, I mean for a like horror sci-fi, like a 73 and a 58, like that's pretty good. How is this not?

Wilson:

I'm going to watch the shit out of this.

Captain:

Oh, do you have AMC Plus?

Wilson:

No, but I need to get it to watch the season of From.

Captain:

Oh, I know.

Wilson:

I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, sorry. You told me they answered a lot more questions, or something. It does actually, which is nice. Um, okay, we're getting really distracted. But um, yeah, okay, we do you want to go to the num nums? Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it all right. So the budget for this movie it made $9.4 million.

Captain:

Not a banger no.

Wilson:

So, rotten Tomatoes, the critic score was 28. Oh, and the audience score is also 28.

Captain:

Wow, it's nice to see an agreement.

Wilson:

Letterboxd says it's three out of five stars, which I don't know, how that's very generous, accurate, that is um, because I could have sworn when I looked at the stars when I rated this movie and I'm I'm checking I.

Captain:

I saw your rating but I don't know how I see the general. Do I have to go up? You have to like how do I see?

Wilson:

the general. Do I have to go up? How do?

Captain:

I see the general.

Wilson:

I fucking this app's dumb you have to click the cover art or whatever oh, 2.8 is that yeah, so okay, I hate chat GPT honestly okay yeah it's 2.8 out of5. The original movie though it's get this.

Captain:

It's a 93 critic, 78 audience have you ever seen the one from the 60s? No I feel like this. It's one of those movies where, like, if we're watching it with today's lens though like we would not it would not be a 93.

Wilson:

There's no way I don't know, I don't know well, okay, what's the? Let's see what the letterbox is. Oh, you know what? I wonder if ChatGBT told me the rating for that version.

Captain:

No, I think the new one's 28. It looks like the new one's 28.

Wilson:

Oh yeah, the old one's 3.6, so it's pretty good.

Captain:

I mean 1960, dude, that's like forever ago. Dare me to watch it and I might. I feel like you would without a dare their eyes are even glowing in it too do you think your parents watched the city at some point?

Wilson:

they probably saw the 1995 one. That's probably where I saw it.

Captain:

I don't know wait, this city has a sequel in 1964. Now, then in 1964, there's children of the damned, which looks like it's a sequel you know how much that would confuse me with children of the corn yeah, that's even worse than village of the damned. Okay, sorry.

Wilson:

Well, these are hot gooses, oh oh, yeah, yeah, okay, so I can go into. Uh, that was the numbers. Um, all right, hot goose. Um, this movie was filmed on like one of, or the area around john, one of john carpenter's homes, but the locals weren't happy about him doing that, so it got a lot of harassment and vandalism.

Captain:

There was a different movie. Was that Children of the Corn? That also there was like vandalism or something.

Wilson:

I don't know.

Captain:

I can't remember, I can't either.

Wilson:

Okay, so this was the final film thatopher reeve was in before his horse riding accident oh, I did read that. Yeah, that's true, yeah because looks like the accident was the same year this movie was released yikes, he was paralyzed from like the waist down or neck down or something I believe the neck down oh god yeah, horses yeah.

Captain:

Horses are scary. I would not get involved with a horse.

Wilson:

Let's see. I don't know if the other hot goss is really goss.

Captain:

Really.

Wilson:

I mean it says John Carpenter met the director of the original one For drinks. Oh, two of the male children were played by female actors.

Captain:

What.

Wilson:

That's what it says.

Captain:

I don't know how that's they looked like Boy. I guess I didn't really do a full physical, but I don't know how that's they looked like Boy. I guess I didn't really do a full physical, but I don't know. They looked like five boys. I mean, the girls definitely had wigs on, I don't know.

Wilson:

Yeah, I think the boys did too. But yeah, the wigs were pretty gratuitous. I mean, I don't expect them to actually bleach small children's hair.

Captain:

No, but those bobs were dry and plasticky, yeah, okay. Well, it sounds like you don't have a ton of hot goose. I mean, what are your thoughts? What did you feel? Did you have a rag?

Wilson:

So I do have some nostalgic connection, this movie. I just I saw it when I was really young, freaked me out once, twice, three times um. I think the movie is fun for, like I don't know, I'm I'm glad you warned me.

Captain:

It was campy. I think I would have had a different. I think I. It's good to know uh yeah.

Wilson:

So I'll say, rating wise, I'll give it like a 40 yeah, I saw.

Captain:

I thought you gave it a higher score on letterbox, I think.

Wilson:

I gave it a two and a half out of five and I I gave it a two and a half out of five and I liked it or whatever.

Captain:

I don't fucking know what that means. I also I gave this two stars out of five. There is a plot, there is a story. Like I said, there's not a lot of a story. We don't get answers as to who these children are, which I wish we got. That really takes a lot of it away. So, yeah, and there's just like not a big story. So, yeah, I would say it's like I'm gonna give it a little bit more. I'm gonna give it like a 38. Okay, 38%, that's my final score.

Wilson:

That's pretty close to yeah. Okay, that's pretty good.

Captain:

Um, and my razor glass I didn't actually, I picked one already do you want to go with yours and I'll think about mine okay, mine was okay.

Captain:

After they fainted for six hours at the fair, they were like all waking up and they're all like, oh, what's going on? And then some of them are hugging each other because they're like, oh, I'm so scared and it's nice that we lived through this together. They pan over to the guy that was grilling and he fainted on the grill so he's burnt to a crisp because he was grilling himself for six hours. And it shouldn't be that funny. Except when you watch the movie it's like very campy, like it's done campy, so it's like very funny to see. And obviously it's like someone screams or whatever. But um, it like actually made me chuckle a little. So that's my um razor, razor glass.

Wilson:

He like cooked himself that was a good one. Uh, I think sort of my razor glass. I would say in general is mara. She was like a boss ass bitch um, okay but the scene with the guy driving his truck.

Captain:

Actually I think it was ben uh, he just like drives straight into it an enormous like propane tank and explodes oh yeah, towards the end there he was like hypnotized to do that right yeah yeah, that that propane tank was comically large and it was literally four feet from a roadway like it would never be they would never put that there. No like literally never. Um, but yeah, he was just hypnotized to yeet himself into it. Um, that was good. So collectively, the body count for these children has got to be like in the 20s it's pretty pretty high like it's a lot. It's like john wick levels collectively. Basically, john Wick levels collectively.

Wilson:

Basically.

Captain:

Yeah, I would not recommend, though I'm going to be honest, damn okay.

Wilson:

I think I'd recommend it for a little. Like you know, if you want a sci-fi movie night, sci-fi channel movie night.

Captain:

I think the I have a feeling the miniseries is actually probably really good and I probably would recommend that.

Wilson:

I might check it out, might you haven't watched it yet? Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna put on the list. Yeah, put on the old list okay um, I don't. I think that's all I got for this one yeah, I can tell you.

Captain:

Next week, though, we're doing our cookie movie of the season. We're doing this one was chopping yeah, it was a little, but like my official cookie movie of the season, we're doing chopping mall, a classic, a killer shopping mall. Um, do you have any advice for me based on this movie?

Wilson:

I did write something down but I wouldn't say it's like fun um, I could just like quote that meme fuck them kids and fuck you too that was not our advice, like the last two movies ago it's a recurring theme fuck them kids and fuck you I um, you can, that's fine.

Captain:

I I just said like if you're inseminated against your will, like you probably shouldn't have that baby.

Wilson:

Mm, wise words, but who knows?