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How well do you really know the people closest to you? This week, Captain and Wilson break down the 2024 horror, and next M. Night Shyamalan installment, Trap. It stars Josh Hartnett, Ariel Donoghue, Saleka Night Shyamalan, Hayley Mills, and Alison Pill.
so, yes, the mission posse's mission posse.
Wilson:Poshies.
Captain:Okay, did you watch the? I didn't check your letterbox. Did you watch all of them?
Wilson:Yeah, we got all of them.
Captain:You watched all of them.
Wilson:Yes, well, so we watched one, two and three, like I don't know six months ago.
Captain:Oh.
Wilson:And half of four. So you cheated ago, oh and, and half, half of four. So you cheated, well, and then you know, last week we restarted for caught up four through seven, okay, and then just watched eight in theaters how do I find you on letterbox?
Captain:like I don't understand this fucking works usually it's well, it's like fastest on your little home page. New from friends otherwise.
Wilson:Otherwise you can go to your profile.
Captain:Yeah, but I wanted to see all. Can I look at your diary or no?
Wilson:You should be able to.
Captain:Oh, I'm in there, I'm snooping. Snooping I mean also, I think if you click on the movie itself, your own rating, it'll tell you what I rated it, so I guess I didn't think you watched all of them, because I didn't realize that you started it six months ago yeah, like one through three, and I don't know if I put them on letterboxd oh, I don't remember we talked about this, but thank god you watched paddington 2 and thank god you gave it five stars, as it deserves wonderful movie even with all the build-up like so much build-up from everyone in the internet, it was still fantastic great movie.
Captain:I like, I don't even, I can't even explain to people like top tier um six months ago, I don't see these well, so I I think it's possible.
Wilson:I did not rate one through three oof fake fan huh let me hold on. Let me so if I look up mission impossible okay, what?
Captain:I think? What was the one ghost protocol? It was the worst one.
Wilson:Ghost protocol, worst one um, wait a second, wait a second wait a second.
Captain:Is that the one I like?
Wilson:the most.
Captain:I don't know, but that one not good.
Wilson:I think, yeah, that's the Mission Impossible I rated okay ew it's the newest one. I gave a 4 and Ghost Protocol I gave a four. And Ghost Protocol I gave a four.
Captain:So I didn't think. Let me start from the jump. I didn't think I was going to like these movies, but I was forced to watch them in order to watch the new one. And I am really glad that I watched them, because the context, the layers of the story matter so much. And honestly, I think if I watched them loosey goosey, like the year they came out, and then didn't watch them for two years until the next one, I don't think I would have really liked these movies that much. But because I was. What's that called? What's that called binging?
Captain:Binging, binging them Binging, I like I don't know. I think having all of the characters and the context and the background and all of that, I think actually made me like the movies more than I thought. So the last two Dead Reckoning Part 1 and Part 2, I actually like I gave it a four and a half. I thought those were pretty good.
Wilson:Well, I think that's hot goss, that they were originally Part 1 and Part 2, and then they renamed them.
Captain:Oh wait, what so it?
Wilson:was originally Dead Reckoning and then Dead Reckoning 2, but then it became or Part 1 and Part 2, but then it became just Dead Reckoning.
Captain:Oh, and then the final reckoning and they put the they say the titles of the movies in the movie, which I don't usually like. It seems very cheesy when they do that, but I was like I get the hype because every time you're like tom cruise, you're a fucking crazy person. Like why are you doing this? The next movie? You're always like tom cruise, you're a fucking crazy person. Why, like he tops himself so?
Wilson:I understand the hype um yes I think by the end of having watched like five of those movies within a week, I I'm a little like mission impossible out same tom cruise is a lot fake outs and that yeah but you know, okay, this is what it would have given it a five stars.
Captain:And I said this to Jay from the beginning. I said if I ever see someone playing Tom Cruise and then they take a mask off and they're not Tom Cruise like the mask itself is Tom Cruise I'll lose it Five stars Because so unexpected, so unexpected, like I was like that's what I want to see. If I was writing the final mission possible, that's what it would be. The evil person would be play tom cruise somewhere and then and take the mask off and they're like not tom cruise, wouldn't that be, wouldn't that?
Wilson:be, that'd be a gag gag, gag I'm not saying I want that, but it would be a gag you're stupid, but I would be um, I. So the only thing about this movie is I. I like you could tell he was getting tired from some of these stunts. Like I, I was like I'm seeing an old man go like be tortured yes, I agree with you, he's a little lumpy yeah, and which is it's okay. It's just like I don't know how he's still doing these movies.
Captain:They had him they had that 60 year old man, shirtless, for so much of this new movie. I was a little surprised.
Wilson:I was like he can, he can button it like it's okay I, uh, I think what I wanted to see in the ending which I think would have cheapened the movie, but I would have been gagged is you know, in the spoiler? Um, in the final scene where he's like meeting up with his crew in london and they give him that case and he opens it and it's the container for um, I like I kind of wanted it.
Wilson:Uh, he'd open the box to be like. You know, it was that spiel of we have a new assignment.
Captain:You know, oh, yeah, yeah but. But the assignment is like enter this nursing home or retire not a nursing home I could see retired nursing home is brutal dude yeah, that that would.
Wilson:That was mostly just like jokes, but like if, if his team, like you know, played a joke on him and was just like retire.
Captain:I was like, okay, that'd be kind of cute yeah, I don't want to see this guy on another mission no, I really did think that they were going to kind of close it out a bit more so that they can reboot mission impossible with young people. That's really what I thought they were gonna do, so it's a little interesting that they're not doing that, but tom cruise should not do another one of these no, no, I don't see how he physically could I don't see how he could either. Yeah, he needs, he needs to lay down um, but I, like I said, I wasn't, I wasn't mad about these movies yeah like I would recommend oh yeah, absolutely.
Wilson:I mean it's fun, it's like easy fun easy fun.
Captain:I honestly was surprised that when I watched all of them, there is not a helicopter in every single movie. I think it's. I think it's missing out of like one of them we didn't watch. Okay, because it is a lot we didn't watch two.
Wilson:I think a helicopter is missing from one of them. We didn't watch.
Captain:Okay, because it is a lot. We didn't watch two. I think a helicopter is missing from one of them, but I don't remember which one.
Wilson:You need to watch two. I wanted to watch two.
Captain:I was foreboded to watch two.
Wilson:I think now, because I imagine that it was a risk, that you wouldn't want to continue with the movies but now that you've watched all the other ones, you there's nothing to lose, yeah, but now I don't really feel like it if that I'm going backwards. I mean it's like a cool virus storyline, I don't know I know, everyone universally hates it, but I think there's value in watching it what's the one?
Captain:is that the final? No, that's, that's dead reckoning with the submarine.
Wilson:It's well, both's Dead. Reckoning with the submarine, it's well both.
Captain:Yeah, but Dead Reckoning the intro scene where you know they're like the subs attacking itself and they don't know what's going on, oh yeah, Okay, I literally was like Jay, you should have told me there was a sci-fi one, I'll watch a sci-fi one. Like it was giving sci-fi. I was really excited about that.
Wilson:Yeah, okay.
Captain:And then, side note, unrelated, we did see the new Lilo and Stitch movie. I don't know if you are going to watch that.
Wilson:I don't think I will. I was never really into Lilo and Stitch.
Captain:It's mid Ew. How are you? A millennial not in toledo, and stitch I know you like, don't you like?
Wilson:quote lines with lieutenant from that movie or something, or like.
Captain:I feel like you recently referenced something obscure and I was like probably the music in that movie is so fun I I just don't remember it. I last saw it like at summer camp okay, you really should re-watch it like I'll watch it with you, the original, okay we'll have a special episode, so you would not recommend watching the new one, though the remake. I mean it's fine. It's fine. They changed the story around a little bit and I'm glad they just didn't do like a, a shot for shot.
Captain:I mean a lot of it's a lot of it's the same right, but like the, the overall arching like uh, what's that? Oh my god, I'm terrible with this. Like what's it called when you're like trying to teach a lesson, the overall lesson of the movie is like slightly different.
Wilson:Moral of the story. Moral of the story Same, basically the same syllables.
Captain:Yeah, the moral of the story is slightly different, which is nice. I don't know, though. It's like the first one's, just better. You know what I'm really excited about, which I already pre-booked? I pre-booked the, the pre-sale tickies for okay, how to train.
Wilson:You pre-booked the pre-sale. Okay, how?
Captain:to train your dragon dude oh, okay oh, how to train your dragon I was.
Wilson:Did I tell you I was so skeptical those movies, and then I had a, a work trip oh like 2019, um. So I was like by myself and just each night after work in the hotel room, I watched, like I watched all three movies and I was like these are so good, dude.
Captain:I did not watch them for years and then I was shown them and I was like I are these made for me? They're so, they're so good, they're so like five stars. I yeah, they're yeah, all they.
Wilson:What I've seen in the trailer so far, like it's gonna be a good, they're gonna do a good job.
Captain:We'll see if they mess it up oh my god, speaking of trailers, wilson, if I have to hear megan say grab your vaginas one more time wait what?
Wilson:what's this for? For the megan 2.0 movie where she's like I haven't seen a trailer for this one yet what I've seen the trailer just not in a theater.
Captain:Besides Lilo and Stitch, every movie we've gone to- they have shown the Megan 2.0, and she's like, she's like, hold on to your vaginas. And I'm like, if I have to hear her say this one more time, I'm gonna lose it yep, I don't know, I they're just.
Wilson:They aren playing those, at least in the ones we're watching.
Captain:Are you more like of a family? I don't know, man. I think before the Mission Impossible movies they were playing those. And then what was the other movies we watched? I watched Soul oh my god, letterbox, I'm like where's my list? Um, yeah, the mission impossible movie. And then they played it before thunderbolts and they played it before until dawn. And we watched drop, so they played it in front of all of those.
Wilson:Oh my gosh I've seen most of those, but wow, nope, nope, nope, nope. I'm trying to think, like I said, I was one. I've seen a bunch.
Captain:I was saved in Lilo and Stitch. There's too many kitties Speaking of Lilo and Stitch. Literally as soon as the movie started we were getting to the producer things that were flashing on the screen. The little kid that was sitting next to Jay literally spilled his entire bucket of popcorn and like, and the mom was just like I don't know.
Captain:At that point you like can't do anything. You're just like that's, that's life, it's. It was just a little funny, um, but yeah, I, I don't need to listen to the megan trailer anymore. I don't even know when that movie's coming out.
Wilson:It's got to be soon. I feel like it's June. Yeah, okay, I mean, I'm going to watch it.
Captain:I'll watch it.
Wilson:I mean, I thought the first one was pretty good.
Captain:They are really rolling into the camp, I think, with the second one, oh yeah.
Wilson:Hopefully it's not too much, but we'll see campiness might save it yeah, yeah, because how much can you really do with that story?
Captain:with that, I mean, it's either you camp it up or you like make it more like thriller, and I don't really want to see that yeah I I was wondering if you were gonna see bring her back, because I see keeps getting oh yeah um sponsored towards me so hard yeah, because I liked talk to me a lot and it's the same same people, I think, um, yeah, it looks good, I'm gonna watch that shit yeah, I just wish it was in.
Captain:They're just not putting it in the dolby, but they're putting oh, our, our theater is getting upgraded.
Wilson:Oh, I'm so excited.
Captain:You don't have Dolby.
Wilson:I think we well, we have one and all the other theaters have like these old seats and I hate them. I wonder if we'll get multiple Dolby's.
Captain:Oh, that's what it was. I also found a destination bloodlines. They played it in front of that movie too. Oh, of that movie too. Oh, nope, didn't see it there either. What? Okay, well, did you like that? I liked that, but I've never seen any of the other final destination movies?
Wilson:oh yeah, no, actually I thought I was surprised, um, I thought it was a pretty fresh take for like the seventh movie.
Captain:Um, but you should watch the other ones yeah, I never thought I'd like them that much, but I was kind of surprised by how much I liked this one. So I was like I was telling jay. I was like I, I really like this. I was like I really like that. The idea behind the movie is that these people shouldn't have been alive and they, they escaped death. And he was like, yeah, that's, that's every movie. I was like what?
Wilson:he was like yeah that.
Captain:That's like the whole point. It's like they're not supposed to be alive, so death comes and kills them. I was like, oh, I didn't know that, so maybe I would like them.
Wilson:Oh yeah, I mean, I think they're all pretty creative with their scene that everyone is supposed to die in.
Captain:Yeah, they do get a little ridiculous, but they know that.
Wilson:Oh yeah. So I thought this movie was good, for they had a lot maybe the last one didn't, I just don't remember it but a lot of fake outs of like things that definitely look like the trap but doesn't end up being it, or at least not in the way you would expect.
Captain:I could see that yeah.
Wilson:I've been getting a lot of videos shown to me on Instagram of the behind the scenes of how they did a few of the kill scenes.
Captain:Yeah, you sent me the one. I didn't know there was more.
Wilson:Yeah, I say what the MRI kill scenes. Yeah, you sent me the one, I didn't know there was more what?
Captain:yeah, I say what the mri no, you sent me the one that was um the garbage truck, yeah, oh okay, the mri one's cool too send it send it.
Wilson:I'll have to try to find it. Okay, all right, we'll remind me later.
Captain:Okay, well, let's pop in here.
Wilson:Let's pop the pop.
Captain:All right, you ready, you here.
Wilson:I'm ready, I am here.
Captain:Okay, welcome to the 170th, oh gosh. Episode of the Red Rum Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two. I'm captain and I'm wilson and this week we're reviewing the 2024 american psychological thriller trap, written, produced and directed by m night shamalan. So he put everything he got into this movie.
Wilson:Um, shamalan is, uh, well known yes, he's done, just a little bit there's a little bit.
Captain:Uh, he did six cents signs, the split glass combo. Knock at the cabin the visit he's doing a movie didn't he also do the village? Did you do the village he?
Wilson:did the visit. I was thinking it was the the village.
Captain:Oh, he's saying it like that because I forgot what that was, but I know what that is now uh, yes, that was him oh well, whatever what the hell is the visit?
Wilson:is that the one with the grandkids?
Captain:I thought so or is that the witch with the two v's? Or maybe I type no, the witch is the one with the grandkids. I thought so. Or is that the witch with the two Vs? Or maybe I type of.
Wilson:No, the witch is the one that takes place in like the 1700s or something.
Captain:With Anya Taylor-Joy. Oh yeah, yeah, Yep, definitely has a goat in there.
Wilson:Okay, I found the visit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Captain:Okay, he also is doing a movie in 2026 that's coming out soon.
Wilson:Called Remains.
Captain:I think, All right.
Wilson:I don't think I've seen a trailer for that.
Captain:I definitely haven't. No, but yeah, so that's M Night. What does M stand for? Is it Night? Night must be real. Maybe it's just M Okay, I can tell you in a second uh, it looks like minoge oh yeah I guess it'd be a little bit long to say it all, but I like that well, whatever yeah, night's not his real middle name what is it uh is it tied to butcher I'm.
Captain:I will just spell it it's n-e-l-l-i-y-a-t-t-u. Oh, nelly, yeah, yeah, nelly, yeah, yeah. Um, speaking of butcher, okay, so this movie has a big, a lot of cast, um, but so our two main characters are cooper and riley, that are the father daughter duo that are going to a concert. So cooper is played by josh hartnett, who is john tate in halloween, h2o, I don't know which one that I, I don't know that's. Is that the main character from that movie? I don't know, but he's also in oppenheimer, um, he's a couple of penny dreadful characters and he is an episode of black mirror. He's got beady little eyes, so he's like he does.
Wilson:I mean I yeah, I think he was like the teen heartthrob, though in like early 2000s or late 90s he was in the Faculty, which I don't think we've done yet, but that is like perfect for us.
Captain:Really.
Wilson:Yeah, it's like a cult classic. I think you'd be.
Captain:It's a horror.
Wilson:Yeah, if you haven't seen this, I think you'd be like, I think you'd really like it 1998?. Sounds right.
Captain:That's not him on the front, is it? There's no way.
Wilson:I'm pretty sure he's.
Captain:That's him. It's hard to recognize him.
Wilson:Hold on, let me.
Captain:Yeah, he's Zeke Tyler in the film Elijah Wood's in here.
Wilson:It's like a good cast.
Captain:All right, let me put it on the letterbox I like. Now I feel like I have to use it, even though it's a pain in the fucking ass yeah, but it's fun if they just made the app, not a puzzle yeah, that's true okay, I'm putting it on my watch list right now, but I wanted to see like, oh, creepy things start happening around a school.
Captain:Okay, okay sold son of a bitch I'm in um, okay, so that's cooper in this film, and then his daughter riley. She's like literally 15 in real life. She's done like a few things, but nothing that was like readable and then they're going to a concert, the cons.
Captain:The concert is for lady raven, who's played by salika knight shamalan. So this is m night shamalan's daughter, um, she performed her actual songs for this movie, which you know. There was some uh complaints that this movie was basically just a promotion for his daughter's music, um, which I understand why people have that complaint I didn't realize it was his daughter until after the movie oh, so what did you?
Wilson:so you felt like cool uh, well, I mean I think it was. I just thought it was a fake band for the movie so that I didn't have a weird perception about that and I thought her acting was okay until I read reviews and saw she was and I was like are these reviews changing my opinion?
Captain:yeah, I mean, I heard all of that before I ever saw the movie, so I knew it was going to be kind of like that, which actually I think helped a little bit. But I have a hot take on this a little bit which I'll talk about okay, so okay um, and then allison pill plays rachel, who is uh cooper's wife and riley's mom, so she plays kim pine and scott pilgrim versus the world. Is that the main girl?
Captain:no, but it's, it's one of them okay, and then she is somebody in star trek. Do you know who dr agnes ger gerardi is, gerardi? I do yeah, she's from a bunch of stuff but I don't really recognize a lot of it. But her list is long. She looks like two other hollywood actresses. Like they she looks very you know, I don't know how to say like it's just like a cookie cutter. Like, okay, the um woman in white lotus that plays that conservative lady that goes to church and judges her friends.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:They look very similar, in my opinion.
Wilson:Do they? Okay, maybe that is a hot take.
Captain:Damn Okay. And then Josephine Grant. Oh yeah, the profiler, yeah, so Hayley Mills plays Dr Grant, who is a profiler for the FBI, and she was the original Parent Trap Girl in the 1961 Parent Trap which, if you've ever seen, that I watched it one time. The Lindsay Lohan one is significantly better, but she plays the dual part, like the Lindsay Lohan part in that.
Captain:And then she was in like a bunch of stuff in the 60s, but again I don't really recognize it. And then there's a couple other characters I don't really. I mean, do you know, do you recognize Jamie or Jodi's mom?
Wilson:I don't, oh, I don't watch any of these things. Yeah, at least that Jonathan, who's in this other person.
Captain:Yeah, there's somebody who plays Jamie in this movie Jonathan Langdon. And then Mary McPhail Diamond plays Jodie's mom. The lady that comes like talks to Cooper multiple times about their daughter's fighting.
Wilson:Oh Okay, yep, yep.
Captain:But I don't really recognize that. I mean they've been in stuff but I don't really recognize it Anyway. So this is a complicated plot, Like the overall arching plot, not complicated, but there's a lot of stuff that happens in this movie, especially as the end of it unravels where it's like. I mean it took almost like three pages of notes because there's like so much like yes, that, and the movie went away like a direction.
Captain:I didn't think it was gonna go same and it just kept going like when I thought it was gonna be over, it wasn't over yeah so I was like there's still an hour left dude, when we were at the halfway point of the movie I was like I was like, oh, we're coming to a conclusion and I was like we, I was literally the what I had watched was like 52 minutes and there was like 52 minutes left and I was like how the fuck, how the fuck is there? How am I literally halfway through like it was very strange. Um, anyway, so cooper is a dad taking his daughter, riley, to a um concert. Like I said, and quickly on, cooper Cooper notices a lot of security and police, like an unusual amount of security and police at a concert. So you can see from the audience's perspective that he's taking note of it.
Captain:He doesn't really do much besides that at the beginning and we get some background into why this is happening. So Riley, I guess, got in a fight or is like being bullied by her friends, so she's going to the concert just with her dad, um, and she knows that her dad's acting a little weird, but she doesn't really know much more besides, like he's just being a little awkward. For me the character is awkward like from the jump and I was like is he supposed to be awkward and therefore he is acting that way?
Captain:or is the actor himself like awkward and it's like he's not removing the awkwardness in the character I think the character is supposed to be awkward, yeah but as you watch the movie you realize, oh, the character is supposed to be a little awkward, like he's supposed to be able to play it off but not be able to hide it entirely right, like something's not quite right yeah, um. So yeah, you, you meet, uh, jody's mom, who like, is this lady? That's basically being like, oh hey, cooper, like I'm sorry, our kids aren't friends anymore this lady's so annoying she's super annoying.
Captain:She's like very ingenuine with what, how she's saying it. She's like, but I hope they can just, you know, kind of work it out. And he's like, yeah, they like really hurt my kids, so like no, and she doesn't really like that response. Um, and while he's talking to her, like he leaves his daughter to watch the concert and and he's talking to her in the mezzanine and then he goes to a t-shirt stand and the guy that works there, jamie, tells him, or Cooper actually asks him. He's like, what's with all the security? And Jamie actually tells him oh yeah. So I'm not really supposed to say this, but this whole concert, it's like the whole what's the word I'm looking for?
Wilson:The whole thing's a trap.
Captain:Yeah, dumb, the whole thing's a trap to catch the butcher, the one that's like killed 12 people. Um, you know, the whole thing is to catch him because they found out that the butcher's supposed to be here. Um, like, he left evidence at a crime scene and you can see cooper is hiding it, but he's stressed, he is quite stressed. Um, he um does notice that. Uh, what's the? Oh yeah, he does notice, um that there is fbi profilers there and like with the cops, like there's, this is like a full because he gets a radio, right?
Wilson:yeah, this is, this is a full, and he overhears them yeah.
Captain:So he basically, when he talks to Jamie, he steals Jamie's badge the guy that works there so he can go into an employees only section and he basically over, he's watching this police meeting extremely close. I was like for somebody that is the person that they're looking for. He is getting super close to them and he's so brazen with it where he like literally bumps to them and he's like, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, I need to get to the coffee. Like he's literally bumping shoulders with the cops but, yeah, he steals one of their radios and he sees their crime scene photos, so like he knows how much they know basically. But when I heard that he did 12 victims, I was like, are you dexter? He?
Wilson:was the base, the bayside, the bay bay harbor, harbor bay, harbor, butcher, bayside, like um saved by the bell the bayside butcher yeah, um, but yeah, so, yeah, he's got a lot of people and he squeezes.
Captain:You know he's got a lot of people and he squeezes, you know, steals from the cops to figure out how much they know, um, and then he, pretty quickly, is trying to find his way out. So you know he's checking certain doors. He sees like a trap door that goes underneath the concert that like an extra special guest came out of um. The conversation he has with the daughter during that is super awkward. He's like talking to her like she's five years old. He's like whoa, look at that trap door. It's so cool down there, shouldn't we go down there? She's like why the fuck are you being?
Captain:super weird, like he's literally talking to her like a toddler. I I hated it. I was like it just cringed, basically watching it and you know she's picking up on it.
Wilson:Yeah, she tells him multiple times.
Captain:You are being weird, like what is going on. And then he still is like trying to find ways to get out of there. So other things he does is he like pushes a lady down the stairs so the cops rush towards her and as he's trying to make his way around it to get out the door, there's already backup cops that are protecting the door that they ran away from. Um, he like has an argument with jody's mom in the hallway one time while they're talking and he gets a little nervous because the police are noticing, noticing the conversation.
Captain:But then somebody else gets arrested by the FBI. They're basically not sure who they're looking for. So the 3,000 men that are there, they're basically slowly questioning all of them Anybody that seems suspicious, that's matching the details that they have on the case. He does hear on the radio some of the profiles they're looking for, like basically anybody that was caught on a security footage during a certain time frame, and he fits one of those people with an animal tattoo on his wrist. So that's he like there's no way to not have the tattoo. And then he causes a gas explosion in the uh concert hall where he like throws extra oil like glass contained oil in a fryer and it explodes yes, he steals an apron and goes to the security, the employee's door, and then goes up to the roof to see maybe he can get down from the rooftop.
Captain:Yeah, there's cops up there too and they definitely think it's weird that he's up there like he has an apron, but he plays it off really well where he was like oh my gosh, I just watched my friend get glass exploded on their face like they're going to be scarred forever. They might be blind and like I just needed a second to breathe.
Captain:So he plays it off really well yeah and said like where's your card from the presentation this morning? And luckily the dude that apron that he stole had his wallet in there with the card. Now I feel like a normal human would never throw their wallet in the apron pocket.
Wilson:Absolutely not.
Captain:And then like hang the apron up like on a loose hook that anybody could grab. But you do, you, boo, so he, he could get away from it. Um, and he has the password, the secret word, because jamie, the first guy that he stole the badge from, gave it to him. Um, and then, uh, he hears that a girl can get picked to go on stage and they get to go. He hears they get to go backstage and like meet raven. So he was like, oh, that's my shot. If I go backstage then they won't be able to. Um, you know they won't be able to catch me, like I'll just go out the back door. So right. So he basically tells the staff there that his daughter has leukemia and is recovering and it's her dream to go on stage. So she gets picked as the girl that gets to go on stage and meet raven. And obviously, you know, riley is like blowing her fucking brains out.
Wilson:Um, because she doesn't. She doesn't know, it's her dad lied about the leukemia oh yeah, sorry.
Captain:Yeah, she doesn't have leukemia and he definitely lied about it and she just thinks she got like randomly picked yes, randomly picked for the sign that a girl always gets picked to go on stage for.
Captain:So so oh, cooper also says, like you know she doesn't like talking about her illness, so like, don't bring it up, so they get to go backstage. They get to see, you know, the performers from the other side. Briley gets to go on stage and dance. Her bitch-ass friends that don't want to be friends with her anymore are like mad as hell in the stands that she gets to go up there. But they're in, like not nosebleeds, but they're up in the yeah.
Wilson:In that top, like the the.
Captain:Balcony level.
Wilson:I. There's a. I can't think of the word, but so not just me. Nope.
Captain:But Riley and her dad are on the ground floor. He did make a comment, being like he was surprised he lucked out with these tickets Interesting.
Wilson:Probably murdered someone for him Probably.
Captain:But anyway, so she goes back there. Yeah, they do the whole thing. He can hear Dr Grant speaking in the radio that, um, you know there's 3 000 men here and he's got to be one of them. So, um, she also is like talking to lady raven after she gives a concert and she's like, did you find him? So she's in on it, like this entire thing is to find this dude. And, um, she's like, no, but he knows he's running out of moves, but cooper's listening to this whole thing. So, um, he doesn't have. He knows that there's not a lot left. And this is the point where I was like I'm sorry, there's half a movie left, the concert is over. I was like this is at the 52 minute mark. I was like what?
Wilson:the fuck, like I thought the whole movie was gonna be in this yeah this place, but it's not yeah, I was really surprised.
Captain:Yeah, so this is his last move to get out of here. So he talks to Lady Raven in private. Basically he says, like I want to thank you for everything you've done for my daughter. Also, do you know that carbon monoxide poisons you really fast? And like you wouldn't even know and she was like what. And then he basically says, like I'm the one you're looking for. And he shows her his phone of a live video stream of a guy that he is about to kill with carbon monoxide. Push of a button from his phone and he goes if you don't get me out of here on your limo, I'm going to kill this guy and it's going to be your fault. And she handles this I mean, I just better than I would imagine. Somebody would only handle this yeah like she shuts down.
Captain:But she basically is like, yes, I mean I'm gonna give you a ride in my limousine. So she gets in the limousine and she lets them go in there and while they're in the car she basically one-ups Cooper. So she says to Riley, after they're talking, she's like Riley, can I come see your house? And Cooper's like the fuck, like he's eyeing her and kind of like singling to his phone, like all right, I'm going to kill this guy if you keep doing this. But she just doesn't budge, like she just digs her feet in.
Captain:So they go to the house and cooper at that point is like gives the driver his, his address, like they're going there. And when they go there they see that, um, he has a wife and he has a son and like he, you know, lives a normal, normal family life. Um, she, he also makes threats about how she, like you know, can't tell anybody that you know they're doing this, but it's gonna bring attention that you're pulling up a limo to a residential neighborhood oh yeah, like yes that's not gonna just look like nothing, um, when they're in the house.
Captain:Um again, she's trying to like divulge information about the butcher to his wife so that his wife will be aware that who he is. But cooper obviously is not enjoying that and trying to get her to leave and you can tell the like there's something going on with the wife yeah, something's weird.
Captain:You're not really sure what's happening, but something's a little off. But lady raven basically tells them. She's like yeah, this concert day was different than other concert days because this was all a trap for somebody. Um, riley doesn't really seem to care, she's like loving life. And before she leaves, uh, before cooper forces lady raven out of the door, she's like oh, let me play a song for you on your piano, which you know. The family is like loving and cooper's like I'm gonna kill you.
Captain:But during that situation she steals riley's phone and then she asks for a selfie from riley. But riley can't find her phone and cooper's filming this uh piano moment with his daughter. So she snatches cooper's phone from his hand while he's holding it at her eye level, takes a selfie and then runs to the bathroom with it and locks the door. So things really fall off the rails at this point because she's locked in the bathroom and Cooper is freaking the fuck out and like scaring his family. He's like slamming on the door to open it to tell you know, getting her, trying to get her to give his phone back, and you can hear there's like ruckus and like family members screaming.
Wilson:Oh yeah, the charade is like broken now with the family, like everything's out in the open and he's doing something to them.
Captain:Yeah, the fact that he's like level 10 mad and Riley's like Dad, like what are you doing? And the mom's screaming at and freaking out and she's like you're terrorizing our kids, yeah. Then there's like I mean, yeah, the jig is up and he does something to them basically, but she has, like I want to say, almost 10 minutes in the bathroom. It's kind of crazy. She goes on live on her own phone and basically said or no, she talks to the guy on Cooper's phone, first through the live stream, yes, and gets details from him about how much she knows about where he is. And then she goes on her phone's live stream and says here's some details of where somebody is stuck right now, who you know.
Captain:Somebody in philadelphia, like where, what are these details? That are in your neighborhood, like a broken lion statue, a blue front door to a house that's abandoned, like, and eventually she has somebody in the comments that tells her they, they know where that is. And she tells them call the police and go there with your family and save this man before he dies. Um, and she, I think, tell, I think she'd like texas, her, one of her friends, or something that you know also called the police.
Wilson:Yeah, I think she was texting with the driver too, maybe, oh, the driver.
Captain:So she has a long time in that bathroom. But then Cooper does eventually get in there and he basically is like okay, well, I'm kidnapping you. And grabs his grab bag, gets in Rachel's. Like okay, well, I'm kidnapping you. And grabs his grab bag, gets in Rachel's car and then, right as they're about to drive away and they open the garage door, his wife and his two kids stand in front of the car so he can't drive it out there and it's because he locked them in Riley's room that has a window with a tree that they can shimmy down. So he makes a comment about how he's never thought about his home home in that way of like a kill house, um, like the never. The two lives should meet.
Captain:So right so you know, they block him basically and he doesn't get to drive away. Um, that way the SWAT team rolls up and the family is safe, lady Raven's safe. Um, but when they try to come and get Cooper from the inside, he's already made his escape. Um, he like dug a secret tunnel underneath his house to his neighbor's yard and they said over the radio that there's a SWAT member down already where he was. The biggest problem I have with the or like logistically in the movie, is that this man can move at the speed of light, like he made his way through that tunnel, changed his outfit like in a split second and nobody noticed. I don't know.
Captain:The timing was pretty tight it was like I mean, it was just unrealistic, um, but the family, oh yeah. So he's not there, lady raven drives off, but the scene that they show of her talking to her driver, I'm like this is so cooper, like oh my god, it's like a dark figure with a hat that doesn't speak a lot and it's like you know we are very focused on him, yeah the camera very focused on that dark, shadowy figure and, like we already met the driver for the vehicle, like it's clearly not their outline, I was like this is so you're like shoving it down my throat, like I, I know, like I don't know.
Captain:I just feel like it would have been a little bit more fun if they were less obvious with it.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:So yes, he's the driver for Lady Raven and he basically kidnaps her, but again doesn't really work out well because he's driving her around in a fucking limo. So as soon as he open, you know, goes around a city block where there's more people, they're like oh my gosh, is that lady raven in there?
Captain:because she can roll the window down slightly and ask them for help but like, yeah, the limo is fucking surrounded and he can't drive it anywhere. I was like, obviously, um, cops pull up to that location as well. And again, no way he'd be able to do this. But he not only gets out of the car, changes his outfit again, but the outfit that he did have, the squat team outfit he props it up in the car so it looks like somebody's still sitting there.
Captain:I was like Wilson there is no way you're doing that Like the cops were, like there was a crowd of like 50 people surrounding the limo.
Wilson:How did?
Captain:he open that door and nobody noticed and he's got a hoodie on and a hat. I was like where the fuck you get that shit?
Wilson:It is interesting how, like the first half this movie, I felt like I was cheering him on because it's like, well, yeah, he's the bad guy, but you want to see him. You don't want to see him get caught right yet, yeah. And then now the second half, I'm like catch him, he is right there it does definitely unravel.
Captain:It unravels, yeah, uh, yeah, um, he acts really shady in a lot of scenes in the concert itself, but for some reason it's not enough for them to do anything. And maybe it's just because he's a white man, I don't know, but like they just treat him so nicely, even when he goes backstage with lady raven and this is before he admitted to her who he was like you know, they were. Like you know we really should question him and check him down and they're like no, it's fine, it's fine. And like they basically just I mean, they just let him go. I was like what is this? Did y'all not listen to the presentation that this fbi profiler gave earlier?
Captain:today, like he fits perfectly yes, she said he'd be really smart, he would act casual about it, like he's doing all those things. Yeah, um, but anyway, so he again. He gets out again, um, he sneaks back to the house, um, and the only person there is Rachel. Right, the kids are safe in a, you know, at their aunt's house or whatever. And he says let me guess you're the one that planted the ticket, um, from in my crime scene. So he understands that his wife's the one that um set him up.
Captain:Um, I think she probably thought that he was initially having a fair right with the late hours and the jewelry, but, but she basically followed him one time and the affair never really made sense because he always smelled like weird hospital cleaning fluid. She said so, you know, she just basically followed him one day to a safe house, tore part of a ticket up and then called the police from a pay phone saying I think the butcher was here. And then they found the ticket. So that's how they know that he was going to be at the concert. So it kind of like looked like his mistake. She does say that right before. She like understands that he's going to kill her. He mentioned something about a murder, suicide.
Captain:But she says can I just have some of Riley's pie before we go? Um, there's like a little bit of pie left and he was like this is not going to delay this more than one minute or so, like I'm gonna eat this in a minute. And she's like that's fine, I just I want to at least have some pie. So they eat the pie. And he's, you know, says stuff to her about how he's like in, like he's enraged.
Captain:This is like more rage than he's, you know, says stuff to her about how he's like in, like he's enraged. This is like more rage than he's ever felt in his whole life, mostly because he's not going to watch his kids grow up. So he's like you have no idea how much rage I feel towards you. And he's saying all of this. And then he's getting woozy and he realizes that the pie was drugged. Um, he was like is this from my grab bag? And she said, yeah, you left so quickly that you left it in the house and I grabbed it and whatever was in there, I threw it on the pie and I was like damn, that I was not expecting oh yeah.
Wilson:No, that was a good like. Yeah, I appreciated that yeah, so he chose.
Captain:He still tries to come for her, but at this point the cops are already there again and he gets tased like four times. I was like how is this man getting up and still getting tased? I mean, I guess he's on like sedatives, I don't know yeah, but yeah he gets.
Captain:He gets tased. Now he is like a firefighter, so he is really tall and strong and that like comes up in the movie a few times. But he, like legit, gets tased like four times and he's just like gets up and charges at the next person, um, but he does finally go down, um, and you're like, okay, the movie should definitely be ending here, nope, because he gets handcuffed and taken out to the car. Now I don't understand this. Not only so they talk about how, like you know his profile, he's OCD, right. So he goes out to the front yard and one of the bikes has fallen over and he's like, do you guys mind? And they let him pick the bike up. He's like, do you guys mind? They let him pick the bike up, which I was like what the fuck? Why are you letting?
Wilson:this man touch anything besides getting into your armored vehicle.
Captain:He fixes the bike. Then also super strange his two kids get pulled up to the house and they're there to say goodbye to him. I was like no, absolutely, they would never do that, absolutely not. So his two kids get to like hug him and say goodbye and they're like so sad that you know he's getting carted off. I'm like that's I know you're young, but weird reactions having things. And then after that he, then he goes into the car and of course he's sitting in the back alone. Don't think that would be realistic. And then like he's sitting in the back of the truck all by himself, and then part of the bike he obviously, you know, broke off and is using it to undo his handcuffs. And then he like laughs and his like beady little eyes stare into the camera.
Captain:I hated that part, and then it ends yeah, now that I feel like unnecessary. I mean, maybe they were opening it to leave. Leave a part two, um, for riley, like when she's an adult or something, but unnecessary I I just I feel like that movie had like a lot of potential.
Wilson:I was excited it was an M Night Shyamalan, even though his movies are going like 50 50 lately yeah, like old, old was bad, it's just like yeah, um, I didn't even see old, but like it was a fine movie, but I I think it just kind of made me mad and it wasn't that good.
Captain:It was fine. It was fine. I really had a problem with the clunky and I get it that he's supposed to be a little awkward, but some of those dialogue I was like I am cringing. This is not good to watch.
Wilson:I think some people criticized M Night Shyamalan's daughter for the acting Her acting.
Captain:People were saying it just wasn't good, it's bad. No, it is bad. I will testify to that. She has a scene in there. Part of his profile is that he always disappointed his mother. He has a scene in there where part of the time is that, um, he like always disappointed his mother, so, um, he has a scene in there where he's part of the time he's kidnapping lady raven. She tries to do like the psychological technique where she pretends to be his mom, where she's like you know, why are you being this monster little boy and like basically talking to him, like how the profiler probably told her to speak to him if she got, you know, involved in a situation like this and her acting during that scene is really not good, like it's, it's, it's bad. So I understand what people are saying yeah, and I get why.
Wilson:I mean, why not? You're this famous filmmaker, why not put your child in the movie?
Captain:it just didn't pan out yeah, I mean I won't say her music was terrible, her music was fine. My, my hot take is that part of the movie, the very beginning of the movie. It definitely feels like he's just promoting his daughter's music, right, but then I would say like after like 30 minutes his daughter's music really just becomes background music. So it's almost like a dig at her, which I know he probably didn't mean it that way, but like it almost feels that way. Or I was like you're basically calling this background music. I don't know.
Wilson:I mean, they can't have it like full blast during every scene.
Captain:I know, I think she wrote like 19 songs for this movie or something crazy.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:They were like all for this movie and then she like put them on an album. I think it was something crazy, like that All right. Oh yeah, there's a mid-credits scene. I forgot about that, but it's not important. It's just Jamie freaking out that the guy he talked to earlier was the butcher. Oh yeah, there's a mid-credits scene.
Wilson:I forgot about that, but it's not important, it's just Jamie freaking out that the guy he talked to earlier was the butcher.
Captain:Oh yeah yeah. His acting in that final scene also not good. I don't know if you remember watching that.
Wilson:I don't remember that part.
Captain:It's supposed to be funny, but it just comes off as the timing of the jokes. The punchline is off. It's weird. So this movie did well, they did promote the show of it. So the budget was $30 million and the box office was $84 million, so more than double, almost triple, the budget. Yes than double, almost triple the budget. Yes, um, this other numbs the critic scores of 57 and the audience score is a 64, um letterbox fits right in there out of 2.6 did we?
Captain:the scores aren't terrible, they're not no, this was our better movie of the ones to watch. You said we gave this the same. We both gave it a 2.5?.
Wilson:We did. Yeah, that's the movie. Percentage-wise. What would you say? That is.
Captain:I mean I'll do 51. 51, 51.
Wilson:Okay, yeah, I feel like I'm right around there. I would say a 47. That feels very nitpicky.
Captain:You go down, I go up, Yep yep, but that tracks yeah.
Captain:I I mean watching the movie itself. It's not hard to follow. But I will say, kind of reviewing the movie, definitely hard to follow. Um, like I said, I took so many fucking notes, like so much happens in this movie that I don't know. There's like a lot of dialogue, there's a lot of like little details. It doesn't necessarily matter that much, but um, yeah, I don't know, it just ends up being fine. I really didn't like that. He got away at the end I didn't either that like.
Wilson:That's such a I feel like such a cheap gimmick. And it wasn't like it was a perfectly crafted getaway.
Captain:No, it's like you let him fix the bike. You let him pick up the bike. Like what the fuck, you're never gonna let that type of a serial killer that killed 12 people you're gonna let him pick up the bike. Like what the fuck, You're never going to let that type of a serial killer that killed 12 people you're going to let him pick up a bike that fell over in his front yard. Like you're not doing that, You're not allowing that Anyway. So there's a lot of hot gossip, this movie.
Wilson:I don't know if you know that, but I can see some of it, but but, uh, what is it so?
Captain:the film was shot in canada in late 2023. It did premiere in july 2024. Um, it did have mixed reviews. Um, like we talked about. Um, the films spouted from a conversation that he had with his daughter about combining a concert with a theatrical experience and he said similar to how prince was the wrote the titular album for purple rain. I was like, sir, get the fuck out of here, selika and selika knight shamalan is not prince and this movie is definitely not purple rain. Like, get out of here. Uh, he also made a comment about how he wanted this setting to be like. Um, what is it? Silence of the lambs happens at a taylor swift concert. That's something else he said about the movie. I know right okay um.
Captain:The premise of this movie was partially inspired by a real sting operation that did happen in 1985. That had law enforcement, um, arrested 101 fugitives at a convention center after they had been presented with gifting them free NFL tickets or the opportunity to win Superbowl tickets. And this is a real thing that I've listened to podcasts about Um. But yes, they basically had a bunch of fugitives on this long list and they were like well, you know, we don't, they're not going to come out of their house if we show up. But what we can do is we can just mail them something, say that they've won tickets to a football game and, like, over 100 of them showed up, put in their like real name, said here's my letter, this is where I live, like. And yeah, they all got arrested. Have you ever heard of that? It sounds vaguely familiar.
Wilson:Uh, like the, the premise of that, yeah yeah, um.
Captain:So he said it's partially, partially, um, like that, or inspired by that. Um, he wrote the screenplay in five and a half months, which is a personal record for him for how long it?
Wilson:took or how short it took, how short.
Captain:It took how short. Yeah, how does it make you feel? That he took that long for this movie or that short, oh damn yeah, I was gonna say that he spent the least amount of time on this screenplay that he's ever spent uh, I mean, I guess that makes sense.
Wilson:I don't like how they came about the idea of the movie like I thought it would have been cool if it seems cheaper by about the idea of the movie like I thought it would have been cool if it seems cheaper by saying the idea came from adding a plot to an existing idea of just putting a concert in a movie, like I wish it was. Oh, you know, it'd be so cool to try to trap a serial killer in like a public space yeah, that to me is better than just like, uh, let's just slap a plot.
Wilson:I mean this movie that we really want to make clearly.
Captain:I mean I mean conversation with his daughter. I mean probably was like either I really want you to promote my music or I really want to promote your music because I love you, like yeah it's one of those two things um and then, you know, found out a way to make it so both people get to be in the movie.
Captain:Um, she, oh 14. She composed 14 songs for the film, not 19, 14, and she tried to have them match, um, like the energy of the thing that was happening at that time is that what that word means, the I don't know, I don't know I have to google it, because what is this?
Wilson:I don't even know how to pronounce that. Died, die get die die what is this?
Captain:what is this? Did you google it?
Wilson:well, at least means existing or occurring within the world of a narrative, rather than as something external to that world.
Captain:Yeah, it's supposed to match the vibe of that part of the movie. I don't know All of her songs. In my opinion they were fine or whatever, but they sounded like and I know I might get some heat for this but literally it's just like Dua Lip. But I mean it's like, literally it's just like dualipa, where it's like this is a pop song, there's no substance to this.
Wilson:I mean, I think dualipa is better, but I do see where you're coming from, like it wasn't bad yeah, but it's just like I'm not.
Captain:You're not giving me something that I'm like, oh hell, yeah, I haven't heard before.
Wilson:Yeah yeah, I'm like, oh, hell, yeah, haven't heard it before.
Captain:Yeah, yeah and then some of the other things. Like I said, this was shot in Canada. The inside was in a 20,000 seat arena that was used for production because it was going under renovations for two to three months, so that's why they could actually use it. And the shoot did involve thousands of extras who were not told what the film was about, but received slika's music beforehand so they could sing along and like, uh, you know a lip, what's that mouth?
Captain:the lyrics um lip sync yeah mime or something um, josh hartnett, who plays cooper in this movie, recalled that multiple extras were consoling him because they thought that he was nervous and was unaware that of the character that he was playing, which is so, I think, is I think it's fun yeah he does that nervous I would feel terrible.
Wilson:I feel like in that situation, because you just have to lie to them like hee, hee, now I'm fine, I don't know.
Captain:I mean, you just play along, basically, and then a little bit of a hot like more piping is that this was during the SAG-AFRRA strike. So M Night Shyamalan was okayed by the SAG-AFRRA to do this movie because he did the whole thing right he produced, directed and, um, he wrote, produced and directed and funded it. It looks like that, the yeah, that's what I mean with production, like producing he's just like he funded it, so it all came out of his own pocket.
Captain:he did all of the work for it and, because of SAG, gave him the okay that he could do it, which is Wow. Yeah, like I guess they went through official channels with it. I don't know, but that's what it sounded like. I feel like if he didn't ask, it would not go well, even if he was doing it like this way.
Wilson:No, I think he'd face like I don't know what the penalties are, but I know they. It's something that's not like.
Captain:Yeah, it's not a deal yeah, um, yeah, that's most of the hot goss. I mean, there were some other things like uh, m night shemland's other daughter was in a movie or I think actually it was her directorial debut for a movie around the same time, and in this movie is a movie, is her movie poster, um, and like vice versa. I think I don't know if you heard about.
Wilson:That's a lot of I didn't know.
Captain:I didn't know about that yeah, I can't remember what the movie is called. I definitely didn't watch it. But the watchers I'm looking at oh, it seems like yeah, from last year. Yeah, yeah, I didn't watch this. Yeah, I think they both promoted each other's movies in here in the movies. But you know.
Wilson:I wonder how that did, because she would have been 24? 23 when she directed this 23?. Yeah, she was born in 2000.
Captain:Nepo baby yeah yeah, oh, it did not do, well, did not do 23, your frontal cortex isn't even developed until you're 25 or fully developed, like and they got dakota fanning in this movie nepo baby. Like crazy that that's Nepo baby. At least Salika Night Shyamalan is like I think she's 28. She looks younger than 28.
Wilson:But yeah, at least she's like I don't know a little bit more appropriate. Oh wait, I don't know if you saw this. She show you like on apple tv servant. She was a writer for 10 episodes and directed 10 episodes or six episodes.
Captain:Uh, the sister the other shauna, oh, the other sister. Oh yeah, I did not really look into her. I was like that's not the movie we're watching. We already get so easily sidetracked fair um, interesting though there's some episodes of that show that are weird. I wonder if she did some I didn't want or I didn't like? Um okay, so, like I said, there's a lot that goes on in this movie. Do you have a rag? Would you raise your glass um?
Wilson:I thought the fryer and the exploding glass was like oh wait, you know what? No, pushing the person down the stairs. I think that was my razor glass.
Captain:Yeah, I was tempted to use that one only because it's the first time you see Cooper act fully how you think he is. It's the first time you see him like take action, that you're like, oh shit, um, let's see if that's yours, dang um, probably. Probably lady raven snatching his phone just because and running to the bathroom, like that scene. You're like, oh, he's fucked, dude. Um, and you really do hear him through the door like, flip out entirely. Um, so probably that scene. I guess you know the movie's gonna keep unraveling, but it's like it just keeps going. She kidnaps her a second time. I don't know. I know that you have to pick an ending. I hate what they chose. I don't know. I would rather see him fuck off somewhere and be a lumberjack like Dexter at that point, rather that than him escape an armored vehicle.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, I think that's my poor one out.
Captain:I just did not like yeah I did not like the ending yeah, yeah, that's usually where m night shemlin has issues. Um, yeah, then we talked about our numbers. Oh my gosh, I don't know. Is there anything else you wanted to add?
Wilson:um, I don't think so.
Captain:I just I guess I was just disappointed by this movie yeah, when I was first promoted I was really excited for it, and now I'm watching it. I'm like, oh, I can see why it didn't have great reviews, and I also am a bit disappointed. Um, do you? I was wondering. Oh man, I don't have the list. Do you have the least?
Wilson:of what, what we're doing next? Oh, I can pull that up. I can pull it up too.
Captain:I'm here, okay, okay so next week. Oh, I haven't moved the colors. Next week we're doing oh yeah, I did. Did you just do that or I did that?
Wilson:I didn't do anything.
Captain:Oh, okay, we're doing the hole. I have no idea what that is.
Wilson:The hole it's 24 years old.
Captain:So we'll see how that is. I've done the movie after that. I've seen that movie before.
Wilson:Yeah, I saw that, I think last year.
Captain:Oh, is that okay? The?
Wilson:Autopsy of Jane Doe. I mean, it's fine, I don't mind talking about it.
Captain:Are you going to watch it again? Or are you gonna watch it again? Are you gonna fuck?
Wilson:off and not watch it. Oh well, I can push it. I'll push it. Well, next week we're doing the whole, and from 2001 yeah, that's all that counts. The whole is all that counts it's just so, uh, your latest entry for next year oh, what did I?
Captain:what is it troll? Month oh god, um okay that'll be fun. That'll be a fun one gosh um, yeah, wasn't that you wanted that? The troll movies uh, I think. So I didn't consider it a troll month, but that's a good theme um, okay, the whole is a psychological thriller from oh, based on a book. Okay, um, and if you want to know more about it, you're gonna have to. Oh, my god, sorry what the film has thora birch in it. Again, that is not on purpose, but they were just in uh deadline.
Captain:Weird that is not on purpose um, but once you're a scream queen, uh, always a scream. No, I wouldn't really call her a scream queen.
Wilson:Okay, um, do you have advice for me?
Captain:yes, I actually do have advice. I wrote this down during the movie um. Based on all the things that happened in this movie, the girl that got screwed over the most was definitely the worker that got glass exploded in her face um however, she did not treat that situation super appropriately, um, because she basically saw what was happening in the fryer and just stared there.
Captain:So my advice is if you are working with a fryer and there's anything in the fryer that's not fries, um duck and get the fuck out of the way and don't just stand there and stare at it.
Wilson:That's my advice because you might get very specific, but good.