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The Glass House
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In this week's episode, we unpack the 2001 thriller "The Glass House," where appearances are as transparent as the architecture, but motives remain dangerously opaque.
Join us as we follow the journey of Ruby Baker (Leelee Sobieski), a teenager who loses her parents in a suspicious car accident only to find herself and her younger brother trapped in a nightmarish guardianship arrangement with the Glass couple, played by Stellan Skarsgård and Diane Lane. What begins as a seemingly fortunate placement in a luxurious Malibu mansion quickly spirals into a deadly game of cat and mouse when Ruby discovers her guardians may be after her $4 million trust fund.
we're here, looks good it does look good looks that good, looks so good that it's like damn, that looks good damn she looks fine all the wiggles yeah, all the wiggles um, okay, how's it going?
Wilson:it's going. It's going pretty well. How are you doing?
Captain:we're doing good. We're doing great. I do have my florida salts. I'm back on my mango dragon fruit nice okay these are fun cans. I heard um some people don't like the kiwi or peach or something, but I could see kiwi being kind of strong strong um. I like the mango, always a mango fan. Okay, do you have? You have a glass?
Wilson:I do have a. I do have a glass. What I really wanted was a surf side, and then I tried some brand called like smooth, I don't know.
Captain:Side surf.
Wilson:No, it's like it's not. It's like non-carbonated, lightly flavored alcohol water. It's not good. Oh, that's terrible, it's like flat LaCroix with alcohol.
Captain:Oh, my God.
Wilson:So I didn't finish it, and now I'm drinking a Kona.
Captain:How expensive were those?
Wilson:It was a six-pack that Finnn bought, and he does not like them either oh lord, you're gonna have to go to a party and give them away yeah that's what I do.
Captain:Said who wants one? Somebody will drink them yeah, if I'm out of like a t-shirt, cannon or something a soda.
Wilson:Well, I guess, if it's not carbonated, it'll be fine yeah, they're all besides, besides, if it hits someone, that's a different story.
Captain:But well, that's not your problem yeah, that's true okay, I like that you're not name dropping um. Okay. Well then, what is it? You didn't say what you said. It wasn't a side surf oh, it's a kona oh, it's a now.
Wilson:I'm, now, I'm drinking kona, the, the name of the alcohol I I don't, I forget it's like smooth or swishy, or I forget what it's called I don't like either one of those names I'm definitely messing it up swishy smooth is like better than separated.
Captain:Um the sorry. I'm just thinking about the donut that you have. Is it usable for like a thing like push pins or oh, um.
Wilson:So we're talking about, uh, a crocheted donut that Finn made me. Um, I, I guess you could put push pins in it, but I think they might fall out kind of easily.
Captain:If you grew your hair really long, you could use it as a bun. Oh, just put it back here.
Wilson:You, could, you probably?
Captain:could.
Wilson:I would need thick hair, though, so it doesn't just swivel.
Captain:We've seen it. We've seen centaur.
Wilson:It's possible.
Captain:Okay, I did want to talk to you about one thing, and this is just random, but okay, I got this ad on I think it was facebook, maybe it's instagram about um, a movie on disney plus called flaming hot okay have you ever heard of that movie?
Captain:no, I haven't so it's about this guy that claims that who worked at frito-lay. He claims that he um made the flaming hot flavor of cheetos, but he never got credit for it and he started in the company as a janitor when this happened. And then he like worked his his way all the way up to like executive, something of the company and after he worked his way up to the executive. Then he was said by the way, I made flaming hot and I never got credit for it.
Captain:Anyway, I didn't watch that movie okay but it is on my list to watch. But anyway, I read about the movie after I got that weird ad that was like it was something, something like like I don't know you see flaming hot and like I don't know, it just was a weird ad for it. But, um, apparently it's like part of a genre called like biographical comedies. And then I'm in this like weird kick of watching biographical comedies but um, the they include things like like the most like. They include things like like the most famous one is like Wolf of Wall Street, right where it's kind of like it is biographical movie but like there's a lot of comedic relief in it. So I don't know something about that like was really hitting and I was like, oh, I really want to watch some of these, like they sound good. So I watched Moneyball and I watched D money ball and I watched dumb money and I watched blackberry. Um, have you?
Wilson:ever seen blackberry good blackberry was really good okay, I haven't seen it. I think I've seen money ball.
Captain:I have money I think money ball was like um, wasn't it like nominated for best picture, or something like that.
Wilson:It got something, I think.
Captain:And.
Wilson:Dumb Money is the GameStop one right.
Captain:Yeah, that one was also pretty good actually. Yeah, moneyball, I don't care about baseball, but that was actually pretty good. I didn't like it as much as I thought I was going to, because I don't like the ending. Okay, you said you have seen that.
Wilson:I think, I think I have, I don't like.
Captain:I don't like the team doesn't actually like. The team really gets gets far, but they never win.
Wilson:I was like well, that's not. I don't remember anything that happens in that movie.
Captain:Brad Pitt like algorithms his way into like making a really good baseball team with stats on a computer, versus the way they used to make baseball teams, which is pay a bunch of people a bunch of money and everything about their life matters like how they look, what their family's like, who they're dating, versus like no, what are their stats on the paper and we don't care about how horrible their outside life is. And brad pitt with like um jonah hill's character, um, basically put like a really good team together. That was like what? Like a tenth of the cost because they were picking up these players that like were deemed like not usable. Um and the team did really well, but like they never win, I was like, okay, well, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is whether you have a win on your record or not so yeah, because I feel like that just shows it didn't work like they win games and they get they do really well but they don't win.
Captain:Like what is it? I guess the world series. Or like they don't get to the world series and I'm like, okay, well, that's not. Or like they don't get to the world series and I'm like okay, well, that's not not like.
Captain:That doesn't make me feel fulfilled. Yeah, um, but yeah, blackberry, it was definitely the best one in my opinion. Um, dumb money was good, though. Um, I remember watching all that gamestop stuff when it was happening, but like very, very peripherally, like I wasn't involved. I don't know if you were at all like buying stocks or anything uh, no, no apparently, uh, the guy that started all of that.
Captain:So like him and like some uh hedge funds uh, and like his place of employment, I don't know a bunch of people were like subpoenaed because like it got crazy, like the stock market went ape shit, um, so like they had to go to court and everything after the craziness. But at one point he was up like I think I think it was like 30 million dollars or something insane in the I remember being a big thing in the news I didn't follow it super closely, but yeah, and eventually like it busted right, like he sold and then everybody else was selling and like a lot of people made out well, but I mean, obviously there had to be people that didn't.
Captain:They went like negative. But you know, the thing that does make me feel good is like they did take out a hedge fund guy. That was like trying to tank the stock and it always feels good to like see the little guy win like that hedge fund guy lost seven billion dollars, so like he had to leave the like.
Captain:Apparently he started like a small business managing like personal people's accounts, but he's not a hedge fund guy anymore that has billions of dollars to like. Change how the market is in the world yeah, that's, that's the win.
Captain:That's, yeah, like that's the win, like that's what it's, like it feels good to see. So, yeah, um, the guy that did that gamestop thing, though, he now has stock in chewy and I was like, oh wow, I love chewy, like I would like to get a stock in chewy, actually, like they're, they've been. I don't know if you ever buy anything for chewy sometimes yeah but they they've actually been like I don't know.
Captain:They reached out to people like I gave her a bad review of something because I gave it to my guinea pigs and I I didn't like the way that it. I basically they could hurt themselves on it. And then, like chui reached out to me and they gave me a refund. And then they said, like you know, you're like we're so sorry that's happened to you, and like is there anything we can do? And apparently one of my co-workers, like she, had to tell chui to stop sending her like subscription for one of her pots when it passed away. And then they sent, sent her a condolence gift box, yeah, and I was like, oh wow, I actually really like Chewy.
Wilson:They do have really good customer service.
Captain:They do and that matters a lot. So anyway, he has stock in Chewy now and it's a thing that people say to watch. And then there was one other one I watched. That wasn wasn't that great, but it had brian cranston in it, um, but like the script was just kind of weird and clunky, but it's about the guy that um found a lot a loophole in the lottery in like michigan, I want to say um, and he basically like wins a bunch of money and then basically just like uses it to revive his little town oh, I haven't heard about that one it's like very home, like feel good, it's um, what's it called?
Captain:jerry and marge go large, I think.
Wilson:But it sounds like a kid's movie like the script is clunky.
Captain:I don't know who wrote it, but I was like, yeah, it's very um, okay the thing. Okay, flaming hot, get this. The director is eva longoria. I'm like what is this movie? What is this movie?
Wilson:I think you have to watch it I think I have to watch it.
Captain:I mean it's on my watch list on letterboxd now have you seen um the weird al movie is it like he's been in a couple movies?
Wilson:well, like it's, uh, like a, it's like a bio.
Captain:It's about him.
Wilson:Oh no, yeah, um it stars daniel radcliffe as weird al um, but it's so. It is a biopic about weird al, but it's um uh. They take some creative um uh choices.
Captain:This is 2022, oh yeah yeah, it's like a.
Wilson:Yeah, it kind of gets wild. Um, of course it's not, it's not real, but I don't know you like?
Captain:you've seen it yeah, yeah, it was interesting it's not on your letterbox it was pre-letterbox, I think yeah there are a bunch of these movies that are like comedy, biographicals I still want to see. Yeah, what is it, bernie with Jack Black? I never saw that movie.
Wilson:Never heard of it.
Captain:He plays like a mortician or something and then like somebody in the town gets murdered and they're like they think it's him.
Wilson:So these are like based off of real people, real events. Yep. Just kind of Okay.
Captain:But like kind of kooky Okay.
Wilson:Well then, watch the Weird Al one, okay.
Captain:Well, yeah, but these are but a biopic's different. Like is it, is it like, but a biopic's different? Is it like a musical biopic?
Wilson:No.
Captain:Oh, okay.
Wilson:I think there are scenes where like oh, this is when he came out with this song and you have a scene of him creating it, but it's not a musical.
Captain:Okay, okay, yeah. And then I want to see. Okay, this one is like. I've been thinking about it ever since I read the description, but it's called Confessions of a Dangerous Mind and a television host that does some TV I can't remember what TV show he does but he says that he's a television host, but he's a CIA assassin. He says that he's a television host, um and, but he's a cia assassin. I know he's a producer, but he's a cia assassin at night. He tells, he confesses that the cia recruited him and he's killed like 30 people or so. Damn, and I think the idea is that, like it's what he's saying, but people don't really believe him. Anyway, I don't know anything about it, but ever since I read the plot I was like I want to watch that.
Wilson:Okay.
Captain:But yeah, there's a bunch of these and I would recommend. So far they've been decent or better than decent. I would recommend.
Wilson:Okay, maybe I'll check. I should at least watch some of those. Blackberry was really good I would recommend. Okay, maybe.
Captain:I'll check. I should at least watch some of those. Blackberry was really good. I would recommend that. And I forgot how much the hype that Blackberry had.
Wilson:Oh my gosh.
Captain:My grandfather, I think, had like a Palm Pilot and that comes up in the movie, but Apple coming through and like Did you ever have a Blackberry?
Wilson:Because I know you had a Blueberry, I had a.
Captain:Blueberry. I don't think I ever had a BlackBerry. No, I had the slidey one, not the one that slides and flips, but a regular slidey one.
Wilson:Okay, yeah.
Captain:I can't remember what that's called. And then, yeah, and then I had the BlueBerry, and then I think I got an iPhone after that.
Wilson:Okay, I never had a Blackberry, I always wanted one. But then by the time an iPhone came out, I was like, well, I want the iPhone.
Captain:I had a flip phone for a little and when I had the flip phone, people were really into the razors. Yeah, but I didn't have a razor, I didn't actually really like them. Oh, I mean, I don't know, they didn't look, I don't know, I was just kind of like I have one in my drawer.
Wilson:I don't know, I was just kind of like I have one in my drawer, it's like right here, I can grab it.
Captain:They recycle those.
Wilson:Yeah, but I like to keep things.
Captain:You're nasty. What that's nasty? Wait, you're going to keep transporting that to every place you move.
Wilson:Yeah, I mean it's not like it takes up a bunch of space.
Captain:Yeah, but it's just like you're just transporting trash all over the world.
Wilson:Are you calling this?
Captain:yes, yes, that is. I cannot believe it's so handy that you can just pull it out and throw it on camera. Like it should not be that handy I have a.
Wilson:I have a drawer right here of my old phones.
Captain:There's like five old cell phones in here I think I have a few old cell phones that are like literally in a box that you'd have to like move things to get to.
Wilson:Well.
Captain:And I should recycle them, like I've recycled other phones in the past. But they do those, like you know, fire department recycling things. Anyway, it's not important. All right, are you ready? Where are we?
Wilson:at um. Oh, I did have a one um quick oh, that's right, yes, did um so I recently, since last time we talked, I watched the new fear street movie, prom queen, prom night whatever the reviews for that movie are so bad it is not like the other ones. This was garbage.
Captain:It's a different director I saw.
Wilson:Yeah, no, it was not good. It had a good cast, the people in it were good.
Captain:Like who.
Wilson:I can't remember her name, but she played the main woman in Alien Covenant, something Waterston, I think.
Captain:Is she a blonde girl?
Wilson:No.
Captain:Oh, I'm thinking of somebody else then.
Wilson:No, she has brown hair, and I forget who else.
Captain:Katherine Waterston.
Wilson:Yeah, that's her.
Captain:I mean it's not like a huge name, but like yeah, if I see this lady walking down the street, if she handed me something, if she took my order at a restaurant, I would not recognize her.
Wilson:Oh, I would absolutely.
Captain:She looks kind of like that Delaney girl that does those TikTok skits of.
Wilson:Delaney.
Captain:Yeah, she does those TikToks of really awkward acting or really overplayed genres of movies.
Wilson:I don't know if I'm on that side of TikTok.
Captain:Now she's dating BJ.
Wilson:Novak yeah, from the Office.
Captain:Yeah. Yeah, and it became a big story that they're like dating.
Wilson:Oh my gosh, let me look her up.
Captain:Delaney Rowe, I think is her name. Yeah, if you type yeah, they look in my head. They look similar those two women.
Wilson:Let's see.
Captain:I can't believe. I see what you're saying. Delaney rowe has never come across your tiktok she might have.
Wilson:I need to see her like in movement yeah in a frame on my phone and whatever she normally does. Then I'd be like, oh yes, I know her um, but she looks too young for bj novak yeah, she does, but I believe they are similar in age actually she's 30 and he is 45 oh, just kidding, I'm just kidding, I did not know that I thought they were similar than that, more similar than that yikes.
Captain:I mean 15 years is it's like on the cusp of being like yeah, it also depends when they started dating oh, I'm pretty sure I mean it was announced more recently like within the last few months.
Wilson:But that's more okay if she was like 20 and he was like 30, yeah anyway, so don't recommend, is what you're saying.
Captain:Don't recommend that movie no, don't watch it do not watch is that director done other things or was he just like given this project to like fuck around, or I didn't, I didn't look. That's a good question you're like it's so bad I don't even want to talk, I don't even want to like use any brain power it's like not.
Wilson:It's now no longer worth any more of my time gotcha.
Captain:Okay, good to know. Um, all right, are you ready to welcomed 100 and 71st episode of the red room podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying a dope beverage or two, and I'm captain and I'm wilson and this week we're reviewing the 2001 american thriller, the glass house, and we should give a caveat that the movie we were trying to do is not streamable, so that's why we have switched to the glass house. I was a little sad.
Captain:I don't know if you read the synopsis for the whole but like kiera knightley is in it, so I just assumed it'd be streamable yeah um, and detective joseph quinn is in it and I was like I'd love to see him in something yeah um, and thora birch is in it, remember, because we were like, oh, thora birch again, like that was oh, yeah, yeah, I remember talking about that but literally nowhere online, literally nowhere so yeah, that kind of sucks and this, the synopsis of the movie, sounded kind of good.
Captain:It was like a girl that said that she was trapped in a bunker with other people and they all died but she got out and it wasn't her fault. But then a psychoanalyst is talking to her through the movie and has to decide whether she's telling the truth or not. I was like, okay, I'd watch that. Fuck, I'm trying. Okay, I'd watch that Fuck.
Wilson:I'm trying to look up this movie. Oh okay, there it is 2008.
Captain:Oh, no 2001.
Wilson:Yeah, it says you can buy it on Amazon. No, you can't.
Captain:No, you can't. I looked all over. It's not on there. The other hole is on there. You can buy it for 30 on amazon I. I could not find that it's a.
Wilson:It's a physical copy.
Captain:You would have to no I'm not doing that, no, um, we already talked about. I don't want a physical copy of anything ever. Um, anyway, this week we're doing the glass house. So this was directed by daniel sack on sackheim. Um, he's mostly known for directing a bunch of, like uh, famous tv shows, so the x-files, law and order house, walking dead.
Captain:He did some ozark episodes, he did some game of thrones episodes, um, but I didn't really see a lot of movie directing there was like one or two, but they were like things I've never heard of um okay, so he's more of a tv guy I'm pretty sure he's more of a you know 45, 50 minute setup closing um. The writer of this movie is Wesley Strick, who's mostly known for arachnophobia in 1990. I've heard of that movie but I've never seen it. I don't like spiders so I feel like I wouldn't like it.
Wilson:I think I saw it, but I feel like it'd be a good podcast movie.
Captain:Yeah, arachnophobia. I'm just curious what the letterbox is um 3.2. I feel like this actually would be a really good podcast see, there we go um, okay, I'm adding it to the watch list. Um, but yeah, he also did um man in the high castle, which is like a newer show. He also did nightmare on el Elm Street from 2010,. Like one of the remakes. Have you ever watched man in the High Castle? It's one of those shows, like that space show, where it's like an alternate reality.
Wilson:Oh no, I haven't seen it.
Captain:Yeah, I haven't seen it either, but honestly it sounded kind of good. I was like I kind of want to watch it.
Wilson:I think I've only heard good things about it. Honestly, it sounded kind of good. I was like I kind of want to watch it.
Captain:I think I've only heard good things about it. There's too much stuff to watch. I know we're casually watching or not casually, but we're like finishing up that six part series Cassandra on Netflix right now.
Wilson:That came out a while ago.
Captain:Everybody's Netflix is so different. Every time I like log into somebody else's like I turn their TV on, I'm always like I I like log into somebody else's like, I turn their TV on.
Wilson:I'm always like I've never seen these things advertised to me ever and it's like the things on their main page.
Captain:I don't really even open Netflix much anymore. I don't know. There's some good things on there. Detective department Q more recently. I would recommend that it was good anyway, um, okay, so I don't know if you have the list up, but we're gonna need it in a second. But the main character of this movie is lele. So by sabowski, sabisky, so besky, I don't know.
Wilson:I would say I would say so bs key, but Sobieski.
Captain:She plays Ruby Baker and she's known for a lot of teen movies in the 90s, like Deep Impact and Never Been Kissed. But she was the main girl in Joyride, which we did, and if we're squelching that movie we need the list.
Wilson:Well, that's where squelching started. Oh my God Full circle Whoa.
Captain:Yes, yes, because that was like one of the potential names for the movie yeah, yeah, I think so such a weird. I don't even know whoa, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, whoa. Well, anyway, we're squelching joyride. I want to say it was like one, it was like not that long ago.
Wilson:I want to say like one, 52 okay, I can't guess because I started to type it in and it like auto searched, so I know what number it is okay.
Captain:What is it? It was 128 oh my gosh, I was pretty far off, pretty far off, pretty far off. Okay, well, she's Joy Ryden. She's Squilchen. Dr Aaron Glass is played by Diane Lane. This is her adoptive mom in this movie. She's mostly known for a movie called Unfaithful that like got a bunch of noms in 2002. Um, but we mostly know her from the voice of riley's mom in inside out.
Wilson:please tell me you've seen inside out I have seen inside out, and inside out too okay, um, she also plays martha kent in like any dc movie that has superman, like not all the Superman movies.
Captain:Okay, any movie that has her character, though she's played A lot of the more recent ones. It says she was Martha Kent in two or three movies.
Wilson:Okay, I think that's the one with Henry Cavill.
Captain:Oh wait, there's a new one coming out that people are really excited about.
Wilson:Yeah, I think that one should be really good.
Captain:Yeah, we actually bought tickets ahead of time oh yeah, I mean, I like the cast a lot um, okay, and then probably the biggest name in this movie, terry glass sorry, is played by stalin, stalin scott stalin stalin scott scott. We love a scott scott sure do um.
Captain:So he, you know, is known for some many roles, but he's plays, uh, father lancaster mirren in the exorcist series. He also plays bootstrap bill turner in the parts of the caribbean which I was like, okay, that's super random, that I was gonna do kira knightley and I like deleted all of her stuff except I just moved the powers of the caribbean up a little, um. And then he also plays eric selvig in like the thor and shield series. He's like an astrophysicist that helps them. Um, but we probably mostly know him for playing the baron in the dune movies and he plays a great evil dude he does he's also in that andor show.
Captain:I don't know if you watched that I actually just watched all of it oh, so you recognize him from there too.
Wilson:Yeah, he's really good in that show is he evil? Um no, he plays a good like a chaotic good guy um but I can't imagine him being good it's like a the darks, just like. Oh okay, he does like the necessary evils to make the good side win. So in a way he still does like kind of bad things, but it's for a good purpose. Um, but whenever he talks in that show, all I hear is the baron's voice, because he's's using that same deep gravelly.
Captain:Is that really? He's not really doing the Baron voice, right? Because that's, I think he is.
Wilson:I mean they might. I guess they could modify it a little bit, but I think he can do that voice.
Captain:What.
Wilson:I mean, maybe I'm misremembering, but it feels.
Captain:In my head it was like an inhuman low, but I guess people do that like throat singing.
Wilson:I mean Bill did that like weird voice from Nosferatu.
Captain:Bill Skoskan.
Wilson:Did you watch Nosferatu?
Captain:Yeah, yeah, I just, I don't know. Anytime I think of Skoskan, I always think of the vampire show we watched.
Wilson:Oh, I've been meaning to rewatch that. What is that?
Captain:Truebland.
Wilson:Nope.
Captain:No, not Truebland.
Wilson:I mean that is a vampire show, Okay, oh, sorry, there is a Skarsgård in that vampire show, yeah, but I was thinking of bill in. Um, oh, dairy, no damn it was like a netflix show from like 2013.
Captain:What? What is happening? There's too many scots gods, I will tell you in one second.
Wilson:I think he's a vampire in that show. I could be misremembering. Um, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm getting there, I'm getting there what's just the skarsgård in the true blood what? Who sorry what?
Captain:who's the skarsgård in true blood? Alexander alexander skarsgård, but you're talking about bill oh, I'm talking about um hemlock grove oh, not dairy, maybe that isn't vampires but he does play. He does play a creepy character oh, maybe it is vampires actually, because I think I did watch that I think there's definitely a werewolf, oh, maybe that's what it is. Who knows yeah?
Captain:anyway, you gotta love a scotch gun yeah, um, all right, we have, uh, oh, the trust lawyer, whatever. Um, bruce derm derm plays alvin. Oh gosh, bit glider in this. He's like a lawyer anyway. Um, is he that? Is he that guy's, is he that woman's dad? Yeah, I just looked, it is laura jern's dad so he plays skeet in palm royale, which I never watched, but you said you watched that palm royale show I did.
Captain:Yeah, I don't remember his character, character at all he's old in this, so I'm kind of really surprised he's still acting yeah, five years later I just looked he's 89 right now he's still kicking whoa.
Captain:Um, he was really really big in the 70s. He was like in the great gatsby and posse and the driver and a bunch of movies that I'm like vaguely heard of maybe, um, but he was really big then, okay, uh, then this is the biological mom. So kathy baker as nancy ryan um, she is in that. Take shelter with michael shannon, which I reference a lot, because michael shannon has like a full freak out in the movie. That is like I don't know something about it. It's like I reference it all the time, but it's like he screams there's a storm coming, it's come up on the podcast okay, I believe you um.
Captain:It's a good movie, but she's known for other shows like the Ranch. More recently, let's see Rhett Baker played by Trevor Morgan. Every time I read Trevor Morgan, I want to say Tracy Morgan.
Wilson:Yeah, I see that.
Captain:But he's the other kid in this movie and he was the nemesis of the main kid in the sixth sense, which we watched for the podcast. But that was early, early, I think that I want to say that was like in the first hundred.
Wilson:Oh, I feel like it almost had to be. I thought that kid looked familiar.
Captain:I want to say it was like I don't know, 42 or something.
Wilson:It was 27.
Captain:Still like 20 off, okay, um, and then he was also in Jurassic Park 3. Um, who the? Oh, that's right. I was like, who is this? Um? Jack Avery is played by Chris Noth, who is known for mostly for being Mike Logan in Law Order. He was in that show for like six years, so that's where I recognize him from. But he was on Sex and the City and the Good Wife, but he has been Me Too'd. He's gotten like I don't know three or four allegations and he got dropped for a bunch of things. I don't know if you looked him up.
Wilson:I was just skimming to see what he oh yeah, he's, he's no good, he's no good no good, he's spoiled rotten.
Captain:Um, okay, and then, who the fuck is david baker? Is that the dad? Is that the biological dad?
Wilson:um, it must be michael o'keefe.
Captain:Oh wow, speaking of o'keefe, did you watch the karen reed trial or like follow up on it at all?
Wilson:what are you talking about? The karen reed trial oh, okay, I did hear. I don't know any of the facts about it, but I did hear things happen whoa dude, you have got to get on the trial on the karen.
Captain:Reedono keeps the guy that died. That's why I was okay um. There's a um. What is it?
Captain:hbo like series where it goes over the first case and then obviously they're gonna do a season two where it goes through the second case. But, um, it's really good, you should watch it. Um, okay, and then I don't know who's this. Oh, this is the biological mom she was. I recognize her face from somewhere, I don't know where she's in a bunch of stuff. She's mostly known for sleepless in seattle. The the biological mom with that really 90s haircut oh um where do I recognize her from?
Wilson:isn't that? Um, isn't that? Uh tom h? Yes, that's his wife.
Captain:That's his real life wife.
Wilson:Yeah, Rita Wilson.
Captain:Her name is Margarita.
Wilson:I was just seeing that.
Captain:Ibrahimov I don't know if I'm saying that right, I don't know, okay, but that's like a lot of cast, but mainly four people.
Wilson:five people are important, pretty much um oh well, you didn't mention, uh, january jones, which we did not see she's girl in this movie.
Captain:Supposedly she's gotta be just some random bystander in the school somewhere.
Wilson:I just Googled it and she was, it looks like outside at the school. So she was probably in one of the friend circles that she was nearby.
Captain:I was looking at that circle of girls that she was sitting with and I was like none of these are January Jones.
Wilson:I just put it in the chat. Put it in the chat. In the chat I think it's from that movie. Why?
Captain:can't I touch this. It won't. Let me look.
Wilson:It won't let you look. Oh yeah, it says that's yep, that's the movie.
Captain:What's the movie?
Wilson:Or that screenshot. I confirmed that's. It's this movie, yeah.
Captain:That is not January Jones.
Wilson:I mean, I'm pretty sure it is.
Captain:She looks nothing like that. What is with that little clip in her hair?
Wilson:I don't know, early 2000s.
Captain:That is not Januaryuary jones. She does not look like that. What's she at plastic surgery?
Wilson:I mean, I think that I think that's like her smile and I mean, what is she like?
Captain:16 here? I don't all right, fine she would have been 22 insane, okay, um, so let's get in here, okay.
Captain:So, um, there's this. We start the movie out with ruby, who is kind of like a teenager, out partying and, like you know, not really listening to her parents, whatever. Um, she loses her parents in a car accident. Um, she comes home from like a late night with her friends one day and cops kind of greet her and tell her you know, something happened to your parents and she like faints, um, so her and her brother get placed under this guardianship of um she's 16, her brother's 11. They get placed under the guardianship of family, friends and former neighbors.
Captain:I thought they were active neighbors. Come to find out. No, they're neighbors that they lived next to for 10 years. They don't live next to anymore. Um, and uh, they're like even helping the kids out at the funeral. Um, we meet their uncle at the funeral, um, just, and he's basically like trying to support them, but they're like ruby's like literally like I don't know you. So, um, she's like not that impressed with him. But the parents have chosen that these longtime neighbors are going to be the guardians of these kids. I feel like that's a huge responsibility to give, not family.
Wilson:Yeah, but I mean they have good incentive, as we find out.
Captain:Yeah, but I just don't know Like the parents choosing that I feel like is kind of crazy.
Wilson:I wonder if there was anything sketchy about that.
Captain:Probably, and beyond that, they have to move across the country, or no, wait, no, they have to move across the state to Malibu, because I think they were, I guess, up north or something.
Wilson:Oh yeah, she did say something about in the valley or something yeah, I don't know how that works.
Captain:I don't know how far away. The valley is from malibu I don't, yeah, I don't you were in malibu. How far away is? I don't think I was in malibu I thought you went to malibu one time we went to um it's a tricksy hotel. We.
Wilson:Oh, it's Palm Springs.
Captain:Oh, palm Springs, I always mix those up.
Wilson:Similar sounding or like similar vibes, but also completely different.
Captain:One's in a desert and one isn't Let me see Malibu to the Valley, it says, okay, that's not what I wanted. It's giving me directions, but I think it'll be like around an hour or two, I don't know. Um, briefly, is what I'm, I saw something like that. Okay, anyway, so they have to move across the state. Um, and when they do, they, oh, the people they're living with is dr aaron glass and terry glass, and, and they're really like on brand because they live in a glass house.
Wilson:Wink.
Captain:And they make glass Like I'm pretty sure that's what their company makes. I was like y'all gotta like hop off for a second.
Wilson:It's a lot of glass.
Captain:It's a lot of glass and we didn't need this much glass.
Wilson:His license plate has glass, like it's 24K glass or something. Is his license plate?
Captain:their bedroom doors are made of glass. I'm like can you, can we not?
Wilson:like oh, and the one time he's even like don't swim this late. You can hear everything in the house because of the glass. Enough with the glass enough with the glass.
Captain:So, anyway, yes, they're now in malibu. Um, when they get there, um, it is weird. The kids are. The kids are weird. The house is weird. The kids make multiple comments about each other's bodies, which we were both like nasty. What is happening here? Yeah, like who's writing this, um, and then we also, they also are sharing a bedroom, um.
Wilson:So yeah, it's just weird and again we find out they didn't need to be sharing a bedroom yeah, I don't know what's they just put them.
Captain:I don't yeah I mean, yeah, I guess they just didn't buy furniture for a two-bedroom. Well, they did, I don't know. But yeah, she's like changing in the hallway. It's weird. She's really nervous about being at this new school, doesn't want to go Again. Something we find out is that she was taken out of the school she was in or the private school she was going to go to, and she got put into public school, which she was, you know, didn't really want to deal with. Um, yes, and then basically ruby has an uncomfortable interaction with terry, um, where he, like I don't know, tricks her slash, invites her out to dinner, um, to kind of like, so I don't know, I guess, bond or whatever, but um, he basically, you know, is like sexually uncomfortable with her or like loosely sexually uncomfortable with her by like reaching around her. Um, when it comes to the seatbelt. It was definitely strange.
Captain:And he's also like drinking a lot, Like he comes for the mom with this junkie situation. But like I'm like sir, you have an alcohol problem.
Wilson:Yeah, they both have a substance abuse problem.
Captain:Yes, it's bad. But after she, you know, feels weird about the seatbelt. Then, yeah, he drives home like really recklessly and drunk, and then when she gets home she sees that the mom is like, uh, seems like she's shooting out, basically like she's got a needle in her arm, um, and after all of those situations, oh, and she sees them like aggressively fighting um one night, um, and I can't remember if this is, if it was like she also has that, that moment where she sees Terry get like beat up by the guys at his office for money, but she decides that she has to go talk to the lawyer guy that originally told her that these are your guardians, that your parents chose for you. So he's like not there. I guess he manages their trust or he's, but he's also like a lawyer yeah, I think he said that earlier.
Wilson:He's like uh, he is also a trust lawyer and a um guardian chip lawyer thing well, that part I don't understand because for like minors, I'm pretty sure like uh, I don't.
Captain:I'm not cps, but like some government, agency like social working place they would place them somewhere not like yeah, I mean, I don't know, unless there was some type of like I don't know contract drawn up prior to their death, but I'm like who would draw that up? I don't know contract drawn up prior to their death, but I'm like who would draw that up? I don't know. I mean, people do like godparents I'm kidding, I don't know, I don't know enough about it. But anyway, she's like okay, I really don't like what's happening here.
Captain:I'm going to go talk to this lawyer guy that told me that I could come to him if I'm having problems. So she like hitchhikes to him if I'm having problems. So she like hitchhikes to him, basically, you know, across the state and tells her that she's uncomfortable and, like you know, I came here to get help from you, and so he told her that he'll look into it. Basically because she mentions the yeah, the sexual-ish incident and the shooting and the drugs, the sexual ish incident and the shooting and the drugs, um, but shortly after that, oh, and she finds out that she has a four million dollar trust that she touches, I guess, when she's 18, but I guess they have access to it too the adoptive parents um, yeah, or at least the guy the dad was trying to get access to it.
Captain:Um, so she gets back home and her parents basically tell her like we heard you're uncomfortable, and you know that makes us really sad. And she the mom says I wasn't shooting up drugs, I have diabetes and that was insulin. I'm like side note girl, there's no way that was insulin in my head. I'm like you're like shooting it in a vein in your arm, which is not how you do insulin, and she's not refrigerating it. So I'm like you're like shooting it in a vein in your arm, which is not how you do insulin, and she's not refrigerating it.
Captain:So I'm like that's not how you do insulin and she's clearly passed out and she's like yeah, she's like looks baked, like she looks buzzed on the couch, um, and it's so funny. In the movie she even says a line where she says we need your trust, which is like a double entrandra, because she's like we want your, your trust, as a in a human relationship, but we like literally need your trust money, which is like yeah, a little on the nose a little on the nose, but I appreciate that in the context of the conversation it would make sense.
Captain:Um, I don't mind it, but yeah, she's like literally says you know, we need your trust, um, yes, and then, oh, yeah, so the housekeeper gets fired because she helped ruby get to that lawyer guy, um, by giving her a ride. So the housekeeper is fired, the or slash nanny, they're going to a public school and yeah, and they're sharing a room. So like it doesn't really make sense. What's going on here? I think I don't know. Oh, yes, there's a little bit of a building thing where Terry tries to ruby by writing her school paper for her, um, and she even thanks him for it because she fell asleep on the computer, um, but she quickly gets pulled out of school for plagiarism because it's caught like it's very similarly copied sentences from a book.
Wilson:I don't understand his motivation for doing that I don't like why finish her paper, but also why?
Captain:I guess he was trying. He was hoping that she would get plagiarism so that they could send her away, because if she got kicked out of the state like available school, the public school for their region then he could, like, send her away to some. I don't know what that pamphlet that she briefly looked at was, but it was like a sleep away, like a send-off, didn't she?
Wilson:also call the number. I thought she picked it up, dialed it and then hung up oh, was that?
Captain:I don't know. I like briefly looked down but it was some like boarding school but like, not a good one, like it was called like the challenge school or something.
Captain:Yeah, like a school for bad kids basically. So I guess they were just trying to get her hoping that she'd get sent, you know, kicked out so that she'd get sent there or they could send her there reasonably, um, but yes, so she's kind of oh yes, and then she also does meet with a social worker around the same time who she tells everything to. But when she comes to the house to do her like, you know, loose check of the house, you know things are in order. Ruby has her own bedroom set up. Suddenly, you know, people look well cared for, there's nothing weird in the house. Like, the social worker finds the insulin. So she knows that. So she just assumes that that's probably what the mom was using, because, you know, if she has diabetes and she has insulin, then that would make sense. Um, so you know, all her worries get like just pushed away, like ruby's worries. Um, however, ruby does find in the trash shortly, you know, after the social worker leaves that, um, she was supposed to get sent to the private school and terry pocketed the refund tuition. Um, and she puts that together with the fact that she knows Terry is in debt with the loan sharks because she's seen them, you know like throw him up against a wall in his office. So she knows that they're probably after her for the money because she knows that she has a $4 million trust fund.
Captain:So this is, I think, around the time that Ruby first tries to escape. So she steals his car at like four in the morning and then there's like a huge storm happening. She grabs her brother, um, and they like drive off um. The brother doesn't really want to do this, like he's basically being bought off by these parents with like um nintendo 64 and whatever playstation was out at the time I don't know what playstation, I don't know. He was like talking about that and pokemon, what's the one? That was, oh what did?
Wilson:he say he says.
Captain:He says like a specific game he does.
Wilson:I forget what he said. I think it was a place, I think it was a playstation one, though and in like Ball.
Captain:it's very 2001's, coded Like the language is it's there for?
Wilson:them, oh yeah.
Captain:But yeah, so he doesn't really want to do this and he even lies to the social worker when she's over to like make it sound like he's a good kid and everything's fine. But yes, they drive off and they basically get caught by Terry, who drives them back and yells at her for being a bad kid. But we do find out. Is this where the wife, terry, like slaps her? I think right, and the wife gives her fentanyl for?
Wilson:the first time I think so.
Captain:Like everything starts to crumble down a little bit and they're like, we just need to put her to sleep. Yeah. So he like slaps her, oh yes, and he even does say a line to her like admitting that he just needs one kid to survive. You know, to keep using the trust.
Wilson:Yeah, it was interesting because I feel like in the car ride right before that he was trying to play everything off and then when they get home it's suddenly like you're right and we're going to kill you.
Captain:Well, I think he can come to the realization. Ruby accuses him in the car. She does say like you killed my parents, and yeah, and he tries to say like no, they were drunk and they killed themselves. But she even says like you probably messed with their car. Oh, she finds out that they were driving his car, not their car, that night. Like he loaned them a bmw or whatever and he messed with it, or she assumes that he messed with it and that's why they crashed. Um, so she's like pretty sure that he killed them and the yeah, and as soon as they get in the house, you know, everything falls apart and he, yeah, he slaps her and the mom shoots her up with something that makes her sedated. Um, we see terry. So, yeah, I think like almost a month has gone by because the friends make that comment about not talking to her for a month.
Wilson:So I think they've basically kept ruby in like a half coma for like a whole month that was such an odd scene to include, though, because we had not seen her friends at this point since the beginning of the movie, and we only see a cutaway, I guess, to establish a timeline, and then we also don't see them again I guess it's to establish a timeline, yeah, and make it make sense, because, like I guess the first question you'd ask is like why didn't anyone come check on her?
Captain:but I guess yeah it was awkward, you're not wrong, uh, but yes, so she's like basically in a coma the whole time. We find out the mom is a full junkie. She's, she is a doctor and I swear she said that she was ordering like 30 bottles of fentanyl. I was like, girl, what is happening? How could you possibly prove to your job that you were using something like that and, out of all the things, that you're a junkie on fentanyl? Like how, how are you alive?
Wilson:like but this is where she understandably loses her medical license.
Captain:Yeah, she gets called in, she loses her medical license, and because she loses her medical license, they can't keep Ruby in the coma. So, you know, terry like screams at her for losing her job and calls her a junkie or whatever. And then he says I'm going to go out in the town and find something to keep her under um, so she leave, he leaves, he goes to the city, um, and the mom, of course, is hiding a secret fentanyl bottle that she's still using to shoot up, uh, and we see a scene of ret being really sad that his sister's like basically like asleep forever, um, but as ruby wakes up in the morning, uh, she, she has an arm over her which she thinks is her brother at first, but it's actually her adoptive mom. That is um dead.
Wilson:so yeah, so like the night before her adoptive mom was high but also watching old vhs tapes of ruby when she was little, so like she clearly felt bad and I think she like got in the bed to cuddle with her.
Captain:She felt bad and then, of course, she just died because she overdosed oh, I didn't put that together, but yeah, I think you're right, she did pull those movies out like I guess they were pretty close when they were younger.
Captain:But I'm confused in the so like she said, so like they both know that they need the money, right, but like I'm confused by the conversation that her and terry had with like who started the problem of the money? Like was like she said, terry makes reckless financial decisions. But he says, like where were you when I was making them? And I was confused I don't.
Wilson:I'm not saying I'm right. My take on that sentence was um whenever they made the decision to like kill the parents and steal the kids money but like it's terry, that sounds like it's terry exclusively.
Captain:That's the problem with the money.
Wilson:I think in general he's bad with the money. I think maybe they always lived extravagantly and he more recently did. I don't know. Hard to say.
Captain:Yeah, it's a little wishy-washy, it's not super clear. But yeah, so the wife overdosed, she dies. Terry comes home and he's like super happy that he found some morphine pills, but as soon as he sees that his wife's dead, he's, you know, pretty defeated or pretty, yeah, like he's. He's not doing well. Um, and then I don't, is that when the lawyer comes back over? Oh no, the siblings start to break out a little, I think right, so like they attempt to flee but he realizes it, but they don't know.
Wilson:He realizes it, I think, I think, because I think, well, I don't know, I feel like he was going to leave and then he, like out of the corner of his eye, saw they were breaking out of the basement.
Captain:Oh, sorry, yeah, so that he throws them in the basement, yes, and then he pulls the car. He pulls the car out and then he pulls the car back in because, yeah, he saw them breaking out of the basement. Is what you're saying.
Wilson:I think, but he didn't want to let that. He didn't want them to see that. He saw, yes, so I think he came up with a plan to then sabotage the car, even though I don't know when he would have done that, so maybe that was already the plan yeah, I, I think I think he had that plan, I think as soon as his wife's dead and he didn't want to deal with the kids anymore.
Captain:Yeah, so he, you know he's already been accused and it's pretty clear that he sabotaged the parents car when they, you know, died after their date night. So he just is like well that worked and he's just sabotages his own car. Ruby already stole it once, right to drive off at four in the morning. So he's like you know, I'll just sabotage this one, leave the keys in an area where she was going to steal them from me and then she'll just kill herself in the car. Um, so we assume that's what his plan is.
Captain:But before he can do that, that lawyer comes over, that beg leader lawyer, and he says like you know, I'm getting reports that your trust officer is suspicious and you're under investigation because terry screams at that trust officer is suspicious and you're under investigation because terry screams at that trust officer, or like shortly before this, in the movie about trying to acquire like half a million dollars from the trust, and he's like, why the fuck do you need this money? And he finds out that their school which I'm assuming ruby faxed them that information I think she did, because she pulled that out of the trash yeah, she pulled it out of the trash so the the paper that says that your tuition's been refunded.
Captain:she must have faxed it over to them because they already had records of that. So they were like why do you need this money if you already got your 30k back in tuition? Um, so yes, he's now under investigation and the lawyer's here to tell him that and being like what the fuck's going on? I already told you about what Ruby told me in private and Ruby's like, damn, what a bitch. I thought you were here to help me, but she overhears this conversation. So she's like OK, he's not a helpful person, but it doesn't really matter much, because the Lone Shark people show up at his house, the loan shark people show up at his house and they say, um, you know, your wife told us you're gonna flee town and we're here to stop you before you do that, because you still owe us a bunch of money. And that's when you realize that the brief phone call that we saw ruby make that morning was her pretending to be the wife and calling the lunch people.
Wilson:I was like, oh snaps, good for her we do see her save that number earlier in the movie.
Captain:Yeah, just a tiny yeah, it's like tiny little scenes that, yeah, where she saves my um numbers, um. But yes, the loan shark people appear and they basically kill the lawyer that's there and then they say they're going to repossess his cars to pay for the money that they owe him and he's begging them not to take what the to take, not the jaguar or something, right?
Wilson:yeah, because that's the, the car that he messed with.
Captain:Yeah, he's like begging them, but they take it anyway and they put him in it, um, so that does not end well. They basically all drive off, uh quickly and then like kill themselves over a cliff, um, and I really did assume that the movie was gonna kind of end this way, but it does keep going for like 10 more minutes, which oh yeah, I was like I don't see how he's not gonna die, but at the same time I was like what thriller doesn't have a final confrontation? Like are we really gonna?
Wilson:see him die separately that's okay.
Captain:yeah, you're right. Um, yeah, so you know the kids get to a police officer and they uh, they, you know, get in the back and they're gonna be like saved or whatever. But the police officer drives up to the accident where you know, get in the back and they're going to be like saved or whatever. But the police officer drives up to the accident where you know the cars went over the edge and Terry Terry approaches him, punches him. I don't know if he kills him or knocks him out, but he steals the police officer's gun, climbs up the ledge that he flung his car off over. Somehow he's still alive, beaten up like bloody, and sees that the kids are in the cop car and I guess his plan is that he's gonna shoot them if they get close enough. Um, I don't know how that's gonna work out.
Captain:like you have a police weapon, like they're gonna know that right yeah, I don't really understand his plan with that, but unless it was the mob guy's gun, I don't know but, yeah I, I don't know how he was gonna get out of that one, but um, ruby in like a big sense of revenge, just literally runs him over with the police car because she has these flashes of her parents dying in a car wreck and she's like he was the one that caused that. So she like gets her big revenge at the end. Um, I guess everything is fine.
Wilson:Police are not charging her with manslaughter I feel like they would eventually put it together, that like the whole thing starts.
Captain:Yeah um, but so the final scene we have is ruby and ret are back with their uncle. Um, it's really hard to watch that scene, knowing what that man's been through in real life like, or what he's been accused of.
Wilson:Yes, I don't know. I mean it's like a sleaze, but like in the movie he's supposed to be a protective, safe harbor, uncle.
Captain:Yes, and I don't like it, I don't like it. So anyway, yes, you know you're rooting for this main character to kind of get her revenge. And she does finally get it, so that's good. Um, the movie did not have to be as. I feel like they could have cut 20 more minutes out of this movie.
Wilson:Yeah, I mean because we talked like halfway through and you're like how's there still like almost another hour left?
Captain:Yeah, it feels like we're like and maybe maybe 25 years ago the city wasn't as predictable, but I don't know, they really give it to you on the nose like about halfway through, where I'm like, okay, well wrap it up pretty clear now.
Captain:Yeah yeah, but it goes on for a while. I don't really know. There's like a whole side plot of her in driving school that like we didn't need, like she's a bad driver, I don't need to know that she's getting training in driving school, because it doesn't really add to the movie Everything that happens at the school. Besides, like the plagiarism letter, doesn't really matter.
Wilson:I feel like for the driver's ed stuff, they wanted to like the scene where she escapes in the Jaguar. They wanted to like the scene where she escapes in the jaguar. They wanted to make it like she would run into trouble at a traffic stop because she doesn't have her license. Oh, but like that's a lot to add just for I don't know yeah, they added.
Captain:I want to say that was like eight minutes of driving school stuff all together. I mean, yeah you just didn't need it. You just didn't need it. Yeah, I don't know why that was there the biggest. Well, I don't know if you wanted to get into the hot costs and the num-nums, but Hot costs and num-nums. Okay, well, so the CV doesn't have good reviews. It's a 21% for critics and a 39% for the audience, um which I kind of agree with, um your eyes I was, I'm thinking, but yeah, I feel like those are a little harsh, though the movie has a plot is it has
Wilson:21 is harsh, I think okay, well, critic wise, I guess I'm not surprised um, and then it did not.
Captain:It was not successful financially. Budget was 30 million, box office was less so 23.6 million. So now that's not totally their fault. So the biggest hot goss is this film suffered drastically because of the 9-11 terrorist attacks. It got, I think, slightly delayed from when it was supposed to come out and it was like one of the first movies that came out the opening weekend, which was September 14th. So like, I think, a lot of movie theaters I was young at the time, I don't really remember, but sounds like a lot of movie theaters closed down like as a observance of oh of people, of them I don't know, do you remember?
Captain:I mean, we were like young, I just remember schools having everybody come.
Wilson:I honestly, I remember leaving school early that day and then I don't remember any other impact of like.
Captain:I remember leaving school early that day I remember talking to my parents about it. I remember it was like all over tv, but like I don't remember the next day, like I don't remember anything weird following that, but anyway, it sounded like a lot of movie theaters paused maybe. Um, so this movie was one of the first series that you know, uh, premiered after 9-11, so it was september 14th is when it came out, which maybe it didn't pause, maybe it was just like a day that day, but I don't know, I just still feel like this it would have gotten.
Wilson:I mean, maybe the box office still would have suffered, but I think the score is fair and that the box office tracks with that score to me. But I don't know.
Captain:I would probably give this movie like, yeah, like a 40. Okay, I would probably give this movie like a 40. That's a little nice. Maybe like a 37.
Wilson:Okay, so you're at a 37. Oh, I almost gave you a 73. I record all of our ratings.
Captain:I appreciate that. I'm curious where they scale and graph and stuff.
Wilson:Yeah, I'll have to poke around with that. I don't know. I give it like a 30. Maybe even like high 20s, I don't know.
Captain:Wow.
Wilson:I'm going to say you know what final answer? I'm going to say 30.
Captain:Okay, I think that's fine.
Wilson:I need to make sure I rate it on Letterboxd, which let's see.
Captain:It has a 2.6. Yeah, I just gave it a 2.
Wilson:There's a cat on my keyboard Get off.
Captain:It's going to mess up the recording. Included with the terrorist attacks. Um, supposedly lily. I'll keep when I say lily ponds. Who is that?
Wilson:I don't know who the fuck that is I don't know.
Captain:Is that a youtuber or something? I don't know. I don't know who that is, but lily so so. So bowski and diane lane were scheduled to appear in talk shows to promote the film the day of 9-11, but obviously that didn't happen. The original cut of the film was reported to be 180 minutes. Can?
Wilson:you imagine. How.
Captain:They cut 75 minutes out of the film. I was like, well, you needed to cut a little bit more.
Wilson:What else was possibly in there?
Captain:Apparently, lily had a love interest. That was in the movie that they just cut the whole thing out, that whole story they just cut out, which I'm glad she did not need a love interest.
Wilson:Damn Whoever that male actor was.
Captain:Yeah, they had the name on there, but I don't know who that is.
Wilson:Poor guy wasn't even in the movie. Yeah, he wasn't credited because they just cut everything that he was in, Damn could you imagine you get your first theatrical role and they cut out your entire part?
Captain:Oh, that's so sad. Is he an actor now Kip Perdue? Yes, oh yes, actor now kip purdue.
Wilson:Uh, yes, oh yeah, he's been in some things I don't recognize him, but remember the titans I saw that like a hundred years ago, yeah, well, I don't think he needed to be.
Captain:I mean, I don't think this movie is gonna like raise him, you know, critical acclaim him.
Wilson:No, I mean I get why they would have cut out the love interest. I don't think it would have added anything.
Captain:Apparently, there are two scenes in the deleted scenes on the DVD that one of them has him in it, like you could watch that there. Otherwise, though, like all those 75 minutes they cut out like they're not accessible anywhere, they're probably gone.
Captain:they said Okay, and then this movie premiered the same weekend as Hardball. Couldn't tell you what that is, but it's funny that Diane Lane starred in both of these movies, so she must have been really big at the time. I don't really. Yeah, I'm kind of surprised. I I was like for how this movie did and I've never heard of it. The cast is pretty good, yeah, but like you, diane lane, like I mean it says she was in a bunch of stuff or she says she was like mostly known for this. What unfaithful movie. But like I don't really know that was after this. Like I don't really know that was after this.
Wilson:I don't really know who she is, let me skim her filmography really quick.
Captain:I don't really know her.
Wilson:I feel like I've just seen her in a bunch of stuff.
Captain:Her two movies that premiered that weekend. They were number one and number two. That weekend she was popping off, pop off. Queen Lily supposedly got paid a million dollars to do this movie. She was like you know how's that math check out? She was like 3% of the. Is that right?
Wilson:That feels pretty good for this movie, but maybe I don't know.
Captain:And I don't. I have not looked into this at all but, supposedly there's a direct-to-video sequel that was released in 2006, but it has none of the original characters and it has not the same same place, the same house that this first movie took place okay so I don't know what that means, but that's what I was, that's what I saw online. I'm curious Do you think it's just called the Glass House 2? Oh my gosh.
Wilson:I just looked through Diane Lane's filmography and I do recognize her from several things.
Captain:Okay.
Wilson:Like I don't know if you ever saw the perfect storm um under the, under the tuscan sun jumper under the tuscan sun.
Captain:I've definitely heard of that, but like I don't know what that's about that's a movie for moms, but um it is.
Wilson:It is pretty good glass.
Captain:Glass House 2006 is called Glass House colon. The Good Mother, which has Angie Harmon. Who, oh man, why do I recognize her? Is she in Lost or is that something else?
Wilson:Who.
Captain:Angie Harmon her?
Wilson:is she in lost or is that something else? Who angie harman?
Captain:uh, I feel like you're spitting out names tonight that I have never heard in my life. She's a she's a main uh uh person in law and order. She was in law and order for like five years, I think oh, I don't like another one of those, I know, but it's like basically, like I like.
Captain:I remember watching TV where, like, the commercial for the newest Law Order would come on. Like you know, you end up seeing these faces all the time, even if you don't even like watch the show, or like the show will come on after. Whatever you're watching, you know what I mean.
Wilson:Okay, Like Law.
Captain:Order was just basically always on TV at some point. One of them Not my house. Really yeah, she not my house. Really. Yeah, she plays like a main. She was in like 80 episodes, a lot in order, um, that's why I recognize her, but anyway, whatever, I was just looking up the sequel to this movie, but it has like munchausen's by proxy in it oh, I mean, like this movie didn't even do well enough to like just come up with a new name for the movie yeah, I don't even know why it has.
Captain:I couldn't tell you. I really have no idea why it's even attached. No, um, so you like diane lane? Yes, she's chill um, okay, so, oh, raise a glass, yeah, raise a glass raise a glass.
Wilson:What?
Captain:are your Um okay, so oh, raise a glass, yeah raise a glass.
Wilson:Raise a glass.
Captain:What are your thoughts? Like did you think the movie portrayed people stressing over loan sharks?
Wilson:well, I guess, so it's fine.
Captain:They've been ran, ran like they've been forced to murder um, still in scars.
Wilson:Guard had an amazing performance, as usual yeah, he plays evil so well.
Captain:I'm like what have you gone through? Yeah, he is definitely the best actor in this movie by far I would agree that. I would agree with that, yeah um, do you have a razor glass?
Wilson:I think I pulled one out um, a scene I thought was extra cringy. Uh, when, like the mom or diane lane's character is, like you know, blah, blah, blah, um, uh, this too shall pass, I'm like. And then, like, lily is like, oh, I like that this phrase is like a billion years old yeah, it's, yeah it's.
Captain:You can't even blame it on 2001, like I don't know what that's about. The scene in the very beginning with her biological parents are also really cringy. Everything in the beginning is very cringy. They talk about pager. Like you know, I was waiting for you to page me. I'm like I do not miss that life. Like I'm glad we were not at the age where, like we were paging people.
Wilson:Agreed, that just sounds annoying. It does sound super annoying I mean, they probably say the same about cell phones like oh, you can get texts, like at any time, constantly yeah, but like a paging.
Captain:It paging is just telling me hey, I want to talk to you and I'm like I'm like now I just go over to the phone.
Wilson:Yeah, see what you wanted just talk to me now.
Captain:Now you can just like send me whatever message you wanted to send me yeah um what's?
Wilson:your? What's your razor glass?
Captain:oh, my razor glass. Um, I want to say that I did really like. I liked when ruby got uh, like got terry and caught in a lie or in trouble Like I, I.
Captain:I think I really liked the scene where Terry gets caught in a lie or he's trying to like, uh, force his way into the trust fund and then he finds out that the refund paper was already sent to the guy and he was like what about this, but I think the scene I like a little bit more is when we find out Ruby made that little secret phone call and called the mom guys and pretended to be his wife Because it's just like, it's very cathartic to be like, yes, get him.
Wilson:She was actually a pretty smart protagonist.
Captain:Yeah, usually they play super dumb, but yeah, she was actually pretty smart, I agree. Honestly, I feel like this movie you could do this whole movie without red either without who, the boy, oh yeah like they, like I. I was gonna say like, I don't know, she's just, she's like so smart and like her brother doesn't.
Wilson:I don't know, it's just like, but I guess if, if they only had one person, then you couldn't get the threats of like oh I can kill you because you still have a sibling. But he doesn't add much to the movie, but I think they needed him for that yeah, barely, barely yeah.
Captain:What are your? Oh wait, oh, next week right. Yeah, wait, oh next week, right, yeah, or did you have any? I mean final, final thoughts, I mean, would you, would you recommend no?
Wilson:uh, um no, I mean, if you like, if you like, uh, thrillers, I guess it's like okay, I don't know.
Captain:I wouldn't. I'm sorry, but it's not supposed to be a good movie, so it's fair. Yes, next week we're doing the autopsy of Jane Doe woohoo we've seen that.
Wilson:We have seen that, and then we're going to talk about it yes, and then we're going to talk about it.
Captain:Do you got any questions for me?
Wilson:yeah, so if I ever find myself in a similar situation like what, what advice do you have for me?
Captain:oh, I don't know about a similar situation. Well, I guess kind of to ruby, but there's a lot of car things, bad car things, in this movie. Right, parents die through a car.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:Like mob, people die in a car. She's bad at driving.
Wilson:She's very bad at driving.
Captain:I think general advice, you know, is follow road rules, wear your seatbelt, reckless driving's bad. Oh drunk driving's really bad, and I think that's great advice that everybody needs to be reminded of. There you go, thank you.