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This week, Captain and Wilson discuss the 2024 horror, "Stream," which is a modern slasher with streaming twist. It takes place at an isolated hotel that is turned into a murderous arena where killers compete for the highest body count while online viewers place bets on the bloodshed.
The film features Jeffrey Combs, Tim Reid, Dee Wallace, Danielle Harris, and Tony Todd (...and a teeny smidge of Tim Curry).
The film discussion begins around 18:05.
how's it going?
Wilson:it's going pretty good. Not much has changed since last week. Wow, wow you sound really good.
Captain:Wow, you sound like you've been out in the sun, got a tan.
Wilson:I did get out in the sun a little bit today.
Captain:You were like it's good, it's summer.
Wilson:I am going to jump in your pool, by the way, whenever that happens. Yeah, I mean, it's not my pool, but the pool that I go to.
Captain:Personal chaperone pool. Yeah, I'm popping in there. Okay, so did you. Well, I don't know if you want me to go first. I did have something I wanted to talk to you about.
Wilson:Yeah, okay.
Captain:So I don't know if you remember, but the Annabelle doll was on tour right I did hear about that.
Captain:There was a thing when it went through New Orleans, that the prisoner escaped and an old slave property burned down right Like these things. These big things happened in New Orleans the same time Annabelle got there and people were like making jokes about it. Okay, well, apparently one of the people that was on tour with Annabelle doll said he was like he's like a paranormal investigator. I believe he owns Annabelle doll and he is the son-in-law of the warrens.
Captain:It sounds like the family didn't want the doll, but the son-in-law was like I'll take the doll okay I believe, is what happened, um, and he's like, yeah, he's known as like a paranormal investigator, dan rivera, okay, while on the annabelle tour he's only 54, while on the Annabelle tour he's only 54. While on the Annabelle tour, he was found dead in his hotel room.
Wilson:Damn.
Captain:And people are like freaking out about this because Annabelle is out here still doing Annabelle things.
Wilson:I mean, it was probably just entirely coincidental.
Captain:Yes, but he's not like um. I don't believe there was anything. You know that people were concerned about his health like any you know any time around this um. But yeah, he was um touring with the alleged haunted doll and on tuesday, middle of July what was that? July 16th or something it was announced that he had. He suddenly died at 54. He was an army veteran and he died in his during the Devil's Devil's on the Run tour and I believe that he was found in his hotel room. Now, I didn't see this until right now, but apparently they did finally release that annabelle was not in the room when he died I mean, I guess that's like literally like as if she's a murder suspect and then giving her an alibi she's not going to stay in the room after the murder.
Captain:But again, I don't think they know exactly what the cause of death was, or they haven't released it to the public. Maybe it just said nothing was suspicious in the room.
Wilson:Hmm, okay.
Captain:His cause of death is still pending is what it says. Wow, Earlier that day he told colleagues that he wasn't feeling well. It was Annabelle, for sure.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:Yeah, okay. Well, I just thought that was kind of cool, like this Annabelle tour keeps putting news stories out here.
Wilson:Yeah, I haven't been following any of it, but I mean the. New.
Captain:Orleans thing was really the New Orleans thing was really really big. I even think I put it on the Red Room Like I reposted something on the Red Room page, because there was a couple memes out there. Speaking of memes, people will not leave this couple alone at the Coldplay concert, which. I get it, oh my gosh concert which I get it, oh my gosh, I get it, but oh my god, it is like enormous what's happening on the internet right now oh yeah, memes are everywhere it's insane what's happening.
Wilson:I'm like I get it but yeah, and nobody feels bad for them no, not really.
Captain:I mean the wife quickly was take my last name off my Facebook, right now. Apparently. She got a lot of support on social media from random strangers that don't know her, but they reacted so poorly to being on that camera. You couldn't have reacted more poorly, I feel like.
Wilson:Yeah, I guess it's just instinctual, but like yeah you were already. You were on camera. Doing that like jumping away will do nothing, and it made it more obvious yeah, it was.
Captain:Uh, it was so rough and I don't really know much about coldplay, but people were saying that the lead singer, the chris martin martin guy, they were saying that, like you know, he's like the nicest dude in the world. So to make that statement about how, like I don't know, these people look like they might be cheating, it was like even more icing on the cake. It's like, I don't know, apparently this like really nice dude was the one that was like you know outing you, I guess, yeah um, but yeah, they will not leave those people alone and they'll never let that down.
Captain:So let's hope they have each other forever I heard he's already suspended from work uh, yeah, I don't. I'm not surprised. I mean yeah, yeah, so I'm just glad you'll never catch me in anything like that, wasn't that lady in HR?
Wilson:Yeah, it was like his head of HR or something.
Captain:Jesus Christ. Anyway, you have some things in here. What did you want to talk about? Yeah, so you and I have been talking about them briefly before.
Wilson:So first Silo. I'm almost fully caught up.
Captain:Finally, it's a really good show.
Wilson:I love the theme song also. It just sets the tone. It's just okay. I have tried to get you to watch Silo forever. You have.
Captain:you were like I took a long pause between like the second to last. In the last episode I was like you're fired and then this is your only job right now.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, um, so I like that and it's just. My appreciation for Rebecca Ferguson has just grown immensely.
Captain:Oh, she's a great actress. I watched her. You know I loved her as the Mad Hatter.
Wilson:Yeah, I think that's where I first like recognized or like knew she was and I was like she's good.
Captain:And then she does this role Amazing at this role, amazing. And then she's in. We watched all the Mission Impossible movies and she's in.
Captain:We watched all the Mission Impossible movies and she's like the main role in there and I don't think you're supposed to binge those movies, because we binge them and she has. I don't know if the writers are tracking this or not, but Rebecca Ferguson as that character, her like main fight move is she like jumps up on people's shoulders and like kicks them to the ground and we also. Every time she did it while we were watching the movies, we were like Ooh shoulders, get them with the shoulders. Like every cause, she does it like a dozen times.
Captain:She like yeets herself on somebody's shoulders and then, like, kicks them to the ground, and I even, like liked her character in that too. But yeah, she's a fantastic actress.
Wilson:Yeah, I'll probably watch her in anything.
Captain:Honestly, yeah, does she do a horror movie? We should get her, she would I mean.
Wilson:Silo's almost there too.
Captain:Yeah, almost yeah, we do sci-fi stuff. I mean it's yeah, and you said that Common really pisses you off, but bernard's characters, bernard's character is, I think, the one that gets to me the more I think I don't mind bernard because he's also smart, whereas, like common's, character is just like he's the bad guy and he's doing these like little things to undermine everyone, and then his scheming wife also too.
Wilson:They're just busybodies.
Captain:She is a big schemer for sure. I don't know how much more do you have of the show. I love the show.
Captain:I feel like maybe episode 7 or 8 is next okay, okay, and there's 10, there's 10, I think there's 10, at least the first season, I think, had 10 yeah, the first season, the very final scene, is such such a gooping gag. I mean, it's so like I was not expecting that. I guess I didn't know what to expect. Um, and you get some more of that in the in season two. Apparently it's based on a book series. It's like really really big, like the series itself has many books, I think uh, okay, I sorry, I was like trying to remember.
Captain:Um, yeah, I've heard at least a book or two oh, you know, I was looking rebecca ferguson, I forgot she's also a character in dune oh yes, lady jessica, I was just saying that late to jessica um, I should look through if any of these are horror movies. They don't really sound like it though.
Wilson:I did one. I'm just adding my watch list. I think I've seen it, but Life she's in with Jake Gyllenhaal and Ryan Reynolds. I think that's a horror.
Captain:Life it's 2017 oh my god, did I watch this movie. It's a sci-fi movie.
Wilson:I'm pretty sure, like if they're in space.
Captain:I've seen it let's add it to the list okay, let's just do a quick check to see if we maybe have done it before there ain't no way I it. I don't think so. It doesn't sound familiar.
Wilson:You lucked out this time. It's not on there.
Captain:Okay, good, we have done very similar sci-fi movies, I believe, but I'll just pip-pop it onto the list.
Wilson:Pip-pop. But the other thing I wanted to talk to you about was the Institute which we both read. I just recently finished it. I did, you did read it first, uh, but like, basically right after I finished the book or I was getting close I realized they had a show coming out and it premiered like last week or two weeks ago. Did you start it?
Captain:I actually caught up. I actually lied, never even looked at it. I did actually catch up. I'm all the way caught up because I had the time. Oh yeah, there are some differences, but I kind of see why they're doing them, just to make it simpler my biggest gripe with the show, which I feel like I wasn't even trying to pick it apart, but you know they're. They're hiring young actors to play these roles because they are children in the book. But listen, the main guy, what's his name?
Captain:lucas or something yeah um, yeah, it is staunch opposites. Um, when you can tell the scenes that they film towards the beginning, where he's awkward he's, he's like his timing is off, it's really strange. And you can tell he's like inexperienced, and the scenes that they shot towards the end where he is more casual, more cool, he flows better, like I can, they are splicing, obviously, because they don't film things in order and I can physically see the difference in the scenes that he shot earlier and the scenes he shot later, like he literally you can see him growing as an actor.
Captain:And I wasn't, like I said, I wasn't really trying to do that, but it was so uh, like I don't know eye-catching. When I am noticing how awkward he is in certain scenes, I'm like, oh my god, they just picked around him. You know young kid that wants to be an actor, whatever. I mean, he's supposed to be young, so what are they gonna do? And then, but a couple scenes later, I'm like okay, he's actually acting normal. I can tell the scenes cut back and forth, obviously, with what they film early and later, and I'm like it's a little off-putting. I try to let it go, but I can just tell.
Wilson:Are you going to finish it then?
Captain:Probably it doesn't have the best rating. I think it's like a 70 maybe on Rotten Tomato, maybe.
Wilson:Yeah, it feels like an MGM show oh definitely, definitely.
Captain:But I don't know. I'm just like I wish they I guess there's only so much you can do with, like loosening somebody up. But if they don't have a lot of experience until like literally the end of what they're filming, but it's just weird. And the other kids in the show, I don't have a lot of experience until like literally the end of what they're filming, but it's just weird. And the other kids in the show, I don't get that as much Like. I don't know, do you recognize that boy from anything? I don't.
Wilson:Oh, the little.
Captain:No, no, the main guy.
Wilson:Oh, no, no, I don't think I've seen any of these. Maybe Nicky the older one yeah, I've never seen.
Captain:But he just kind of looks like a greaser. So maybe, but yeah, I can. When I was reading the book I was like I can 100% see this being a miniseries, like it is serving that really hard.
Wilson:I hope they don't stretch it into another season, though. They better not it needs to be a one and done.
Captain:That's what it should be. Yeah, but it's, do you like? The lady from the weeds is in there. Oh yeah, her character's played a little differently than the book, but that is not how I pictured that that character in the book at all no, and she's like a little friendlier ish so far than the book version now the two what? The doctor and the head of security. That is how I pictured them. Oh, I didn't picture the head of security. That is how I pictured them.
Wilson:Oh, I didn't picture the head of security that way. I pictured a 40-year-old former football player.
Captain:Oh, really no. I was picturing someone like that older and creepy. I was trying to see what's the guy's name, luke.
Wilson:The main kid yeah.
Captain:The actor doesn't. He's not even clickable on Wikipedia. So yeah, I think I'm spot on with what I'm saying.
Wilson:Spot on Okay.
Captain:But it's not bad. I probably would finish it.
Wilson:Okay, I mean because I'm going to watch the episode that comes out tomorrow.
Captain:Oh yeah, that's right, it does come out. What is that Saturday? No Sundays.
Wilson:Sundays, yeah, sundays.
Captain:Dexter's Friday. And oh, the revival show I'm watching is Thursdays.
Wilson:Wow.
Captain:I know, and then I am watching an anime right now that comes out on saturdays which is unlike me but it's a pretty good um anime. Okay, it's about, uh, monsters that have to get murdered. Monsters attack cities and they have, like monster hunters that kill them. But the secret, or like you find out. Well, I think you find out in the trailer or whatever. But one of the monsters is actually like the main character. He's a human but he, like ends up having a monster power.
Wilson:Oh, that sounds interesting and he has to like hide, hide it, because they kill monsters weren't you telling me about another one with like prescription drugs and it like can heal you.
Captain:It's like a mushroom oh, that's not an anime. I think that's just a regular cartoon called common side effects. That's the one with Hank Hill as the voice actor again which I think that King of the Hill, doesn't that come out today or yesterday or something?
Wilson:I knew it was soon, I didn't know when.
Captain:I feel like it's the middle of July, maybe it's August. I wasn't a huge fan of King of the Hill when I was a kid, but I feel like as an adult, it probably hits way harder.
Wilson:We tried to watch a couple episodes. I think like we did together no, sorry, finn, and I tried to watch a couple and it's good oh, august 4th, I was off oh maybe by the time this is out oh yeah, this will be, this will be out, or about to be.
Captain:Okay, wow, what a great show. Wow, okay, yeah.
Wilson:All right, well, should I pull us in?
Captain:Yeah, let's pull up.
Wilson:Pull up, park it, park it.
Captain:We pulled up, we parked, came inside.
Wilson:Popped, locked and dropped it.
Captain:Exactly Yep, yep.
Wilson:Okay, pop locked and dropped it, exactly, okay. Well, welcome to the 174th episode of the Red Rum Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two.
Captain:And I'm Captain.
Wilson:And I'm Wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 2024 American slasher film Stream.
Captain:Yes, there's not a lot of stuff on here about that, about the peeps.
Wilson:Yeah, well, I can start with the director. I can't actually click on him, so can't speak to that.
Captain:But his name is.
Wilson:Oh yes, His name is Michael Levy. Michael Levy, I'm trying to get to the, the imdb, to see if that will at least show me something oh, okay, so he did. He's been the producer and a lot of stuff. Um, oh, he's directed a lot of things, but they seem like Kind of they're shorts Mostly.
Captain:So if somebody gave him a shot, they did Wait, but he did.
Wilson:Oh, I don't know, okay, I don't know, he did some things.
Captain:This Michael Levy.
Wilson:Which one's this Michael Levy. One is this Michael Levy.
Captain:I'm just saying like it's this one yeah, because I went to the IMDB for stream and clicked on the director's name did you used to have the ability to edit IMDB, like didn't you have an account? Me personally yeah, I thought you like had an account.
Wilson:Well, I had, like I think I tried their pro for like a month oh, you can't edit with uh I don't know. I guess I never tried.
Wilson:I don't know where I'd find that information oh, he did the terror fire movies dude, that makes so much sense I think he produced those well, I know, but like I'm just saying like that that tracks oh, the one character in this movie is the guy who plays art the clown yeah, I wrote that somewhere I don't know if you did or not, but it's just what I what you know yeah oh yeah, I think you're right.
Captain:I don't remember.
Wilson:There's a lot of um you don't even have them listed uh, there's a lot of um, what's that fuckface's name?
Captain:rob zombie, what? There's a lot of rob zombie actors in this movie oh, oh, oh oh.
Wilson:I was like I don't remember seeing him.
Captain:The Rob Zombie.
Wilson:Yeah, Okay. So speaking of cast, we can jump into the rest of them. We have Jeffrey Combs stars as Mr Lockwood. He was the main dude in the reanimator From Beyond.
Captain:Oh yes, we did do that movie. It's like Videodrome, where it's like oh yes, we did do that movie, it's like Videodrome.
Wilson:We did that recently then.
Captain:Yeah, no, from Beyond we did more recently.
Wilson:Oh, was that that really weird one?
Captain:Yeah, I think there's a lady screaming on the stairs frantically. Okay, I'm going to say that movie is like one One. It wasn't that recently.
Wilson:I'm gonna say like 129 okay, I think I was thinking of um crimes of the future oh, no, no, no, not that one um, okay, uh, I actually liked from beyond we had guests on that one what did you say? 129, 129?.
Captain:Yeah, it was 142. Oh, the more episodes we make the way, harder it is to hit it on the money.
Wilson:Yeah, because it used to be like the hundreds weren't that many. I could, like you know.
Captain:I mean yeah. The sample size is too big.
Wilson:Too big. And then for Jeffrey I also. I think I first recognized him in he was in Star Trek. He's played a really good character. Like he knocked that performance out. It was good.
Captain:Yeah, I never really watched that stuff.
Wilson:And he did. The voice of Ratchet in Transformers. Is that the cartoon?
Captain:I figure, I don't know, he has a specific voice, that actor he does, I'm not sure, so yeah, but I never really got into the transformer stuff. So I like the movies okay, I like the um videos of optimus prime fucking with people when they try to take a picture with him at disney or whatever oh, you mean like. Okay, you mean like when they're in the costumes and yes, being in character, and yes, and optimus, no, sorry, not optimus prime, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Wilson:Decepticon or whatever oh, yes, yes, what's the?
Captain:main decepticons name megatron oh, yeah, I think it's megatron. Yeah, he's like messing with people. You know, somebody walks up in like a muscle shirt and he's like maybe you should grow muscles before you wear that shirt. Or like I, he like, you know, he's very, you know, decepticon, um, but that is the only that's like the most. I really know about that and the fact that they call them like. Obviously the evil guys are the ones that are called Decepticons.
Wilson:So Jay doesn't like those movies.
Captain:I don't think so. You know I don't watch them.
Wilson:Oh, wow.
Captain:You know that one movie that came out a couple years ago that was like Bumblebee versus Godzilla or something.
Wilson:Okay, that wasn't it, but yeah.
Captain:The trailer for that looked really good and I think we were tempted to go see it, but we didn't.
Wilson:What was it?
Captain:called.
Wilson:I mean, there was one called just Bumblebee.
Captain:Oh, doesn't he fight like a giant monkey or something?
Wilson:Or he's friends with a giant monkey. Last year, transformers Beast Wait did they call it Beast Wars. Yeah, it came out. So there was a monkey robot and some other animal robots.
Captain:Why that's a whole thing, I guess Is Bumblebee considered an animal robot.
Wilson:No, it's a car.
Captain:But you see how I would get confused. A Bumblebee is.
Wilson:Yeah, I mean it's just because he's a yellow car.
Captain:It's called what Transformers, Beast Mode or something.
Wilson:The one that came out last year was Beast Wars.
Captain:Well, I think that maybe it was just the Bumblebee movie that I remember seeing the trailer and being like they're getting me.
Wilson:I actually watched one of the seasons or I watched a lot of the transformers when I was younger, but the quality they it was so bad why does beast war say 1996? I think I gave you the name of the tv show that it's inspired by and I messed up the movie title.
Captain:Rise of the Beast.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:This was two years ago.
Wilson:But that has characters from the show Beast Wars.
Captain:Okay, but was this robot Godzilla in Bumblebee?
Wilson:That wasn't Godzilla. What there's no Godzilla.
Captain:Sorry, this robot gorilla, was he in Bumblebee, or yeah? No, this was the only he in Bumblebee, or yeah.
Wilson:No, this was the only. The gorilla was only in this movie.
Captain:What's the gorilla's name?
Wilson:That one is Optimus Primal is it that funny?
Captain:I just, I just I don't know why I was expecting something like somewhat clever. I don't, I, I don't know, I just optimus primimal sounds so stupid.
Wilson:I don't know You're going to be mad at the cheetah's name, I think so oh, no what. Cheetor. I can't why A cheetah deserves something way better than that um I'm trying to think if there are any others that stand stand out like that oh my god, optimus primal really got me dude.
Captain:Oh my gosh, um, are you sure I swear he was in a movie that was not beast mode or whatever the fuck who are we talking?
Wilson:about rise of the beasts, optimus primal no so he's a good gorilla yeah all the animals are good uh, yeah, there's like a scene where, like it accidentally turns evil. But yeah, they're, they're all good.
Captain:And this is all based on the show from the 80s or whatever.
Wilson:Yeah, well, sort of Some of it. The other is from that 90s show that you just accidentally looked up.
Captain:Oh, I see Cheetor Rat Trap. God, they have a rat one.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:Rhinox, y'all just threw an X at the end.
Wilson:Yeah, what animal do you think that one is? Oh man.
Captain:Black Arachnia. Somebody named their kid that 2025. Black arachnia is a child's name. 100%.
Wilson:That just sounds like somebody's being almost racist.
Captain:It's all one word Black arachnia.
Wilson:Oh, it's, all one Okay.
Captain:Yeah, it's all one word black arachnia. Oh, it's all okay.
Wilson:Yeah, it's all one word black arachnia imagine if you knew like two anarachnias and like they're, like it's black arachnia it's like a uh, I don't know like office, like joke or like snl or something.
Captain:Um, I mean, wilson waspinator, come the fuck on it's the most annoying character I mean, I get it. Wasps fucking suck um anyway. Well, I don't know how he got there, but oh yeah, he's the voice of ratchet.
Wilson:Ratchet's a good guy, right uh, I don't know, you're gonna, you're gonna take us down another rabbit hole. I think, if I have to look up ratchet, I don't know who's the bad guys?
Captain:and what transformers, we have optimus decepticon. What's his name?
Wilson:meggas decepticon optimus, like autobots, they're the good guys. And then megatron is uh, decepticon the bad guys he's the main decepticon yeah, and then the, the, the beasts are called.
Captain:Oh, I do not like that. I do not like that.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:Okay, well, if you want to know Ratchet oh, that didn't answer my question they're telling me what kind of truck he is.
Wilson:Who.
Captain:Ratchet, it's fine, we can keep going.
Wilson:Okay, yeah.
Captain:You are correct about the rabbit hole.
Wilson:There's a lot going on in that universe, okay okay, and then we have charles edwin powell as roy keenan.
Captain:The dad looks like he I don't, I don't even remember if he's, if he's not even clickable.
Wilson:I think he's not clickable uh, his imdb has just like looks like several small roles and things.
Captain:Oh, I realize now I forgot to fill in some characters on here because I didn't feel like doing all the work.
Wilson:Yeah, like the one that plays Art, the Clown.
Captain:Yeah Well, which one's? Well, anyway, you'll get there.
Wilson:Yeah, so we have Tim Reed who plays Bernard. He was in a um it, the tv um adaptation oh or like the I mostly know him as the dad in systems oh yeah, I mean, I know we watched that one like basically for the podcast a couple years ago, sister, sister, but I don't remember the dad.
Captain:I vaguely remember that was for the podcast. We watched that.
Wilson:Well, no, I think we talked about it on the podcast. Then, right afterwards, we're like, well, we need to watch the episode.
Captain:Okay, I remember there was an episode of Degrassi that Lieutenant and I were like desperately quoting and we were like we got to find it on YouTube, um but anyway, um, yeah, apparently he's like did a bunch of stuff in the Tim Reed, did a bunch of stuff in the 80s.
Wilson:But yeah, I mostly know him for sister, sister, okay uh, then we have Dee Wallace, uh, as Linda Spring she's I mean, she's barely in this movie, uh, but it was nice to see her in there she, she starts it off she does, she does. Uh, we don't need to go through all the things she oh.
Captain:No, okay, we can just a quick, quick recap you want me to do?
Wilson:okay, yeah, you go for it, mary and et kujo, I don't remember her character's name, but she's Mary.
Captain:Yeah, you can go for it, mary. And ET Cujo. I don't remember her character's name, but she's the main one. Critters, house of the Devil. I don't remember saying all these last time, but she's Diane in Red Christmas from 2016. Did we do that one too?
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, we did Red Christmas.
Captain:Oh, lordy, I don't even remember when that was.
Wilson:Well, uh well, it's probably christmas. No, I mean, I don't uh, was that in the 100s?
Captain:like I don't know, I'm gonna say no, I think that was early, it was yeah. I'm saying it was like oh sorry, yeah before the first 100 is what I mean.
Wilson:Yeah the other the other 100. Yeah, um, I want to say like 82 I'm gonna guess this time and I'm going to say 40.
Captain:Holy One of us is way off.
Wilson:Sorry, it's taking me a second to pull it up. Hold on.
Captain:Oh, I thought you were about to brag your ass off.
Wilson:No, but I hope so Was this Red Christmas. Yeah, oh it was 35 holy cow, we'll brag away. Cut my fingers off over here okay I wouldn't go that far um, all right, so that was.
Captain:Uh, that's d wallace, oh wait what, apparently in 2022, she was in a jeepers creepers movie, the the ice prequel or I think we we chose to not watch that one I think, we were like it's not gonna be good and she's in a rod zombie movie, which I only mentioned because a bunch of those people are in the rob zombie movies and it's called three from hell yeah, yeah okay, okay, um, all right, so then we have Daniel Roebuck as Howard.
Wilson:He was in the Fugitive. He was, I guess, cody Banks' dad in Agent Cody Banks. He's in Matlock. Okay, I see you have some more Rob Zombie films. Final Destination.
Captain:He's some agent in the very first one, which obviously I didn't watch yeah, I didn't watch that.
Captain:Oh wait, he was in a lot wait yeah, this is where I recognize him, because in the in this movie he's like the best actor. I was like why do I recognize this guy and why is he actually acting? And then I realized he's art from, he's dr leslie, art from lost and I we recently re-watched all of lost, so that's why I like more recognized him. But he's kind of his character in the show is kind of annoying but um, I mean, he is annoying but um, he, he's a good actor in lost, I mean wait, so who?
Wilson:who is he in this?
Captain:what? He's the drunk guy in this? Oh right, right, right yep, uh, we have tony todd um not so briefly very, very, very, very, very end I, I would argue, his scene is even smaller than d wellis's yep, uh.
Wilson:Then we have bill mosley who plays wait what?
Captain:oh, tony todd? He's candy man, I didn't mean to skip tony todd I forgot to put it in there. I don't know what else he's done.
Wilson:Well, no, he was in final destination, the most recent one yeah and he mostly known as candy man yeah, and then I feel like he just pops up in a lot of other places but those those are the big things, those are the main things. And passed away last year.
Captain:Yes, that's some goose for this that was right around the same time. Okay, oh yeah, he's been in so much stuff. I mean, does he do TV shows too?
Wilson:I don't know, you're the one looking him up it says he's been on like 24.
Captain:I mean, oh, he's been on other Final Destination movies. Oh, that's right. His character is like a previous character. Oh lord, do you recognize him from? Apparently he was in Star Trek. He played Kern in Star Trek.
Wilson:He played Kern in Star Trek.
Captain:Which Star Trek Next.
Wilson:Generation and Deep Space Nine. I would have seen him, but I don't remember.
Captain:Okay, he's mostly known for the Candyman thing. Anyway, you can keep going.
Wilson:I never watched the new one, he was in.
Captain:The Flash and he's in Spider-Man 2. Oh, he's Venom in the video game Spider-Man 2. Apparently he received an Academy Games nomination for his role in Spider-Man 2, the game.
Wilson:Damn Okay.
Captain:He's got. He's got a voice that I feel like could do good, voice acting, you know.
Wilson:Uh, yeah, I mean he passed away last year.
Captain:Yeah, yeah, very recently actually. Dude, his Wikipedia is just scroll forever. Yeah, he's been in tv shows too. Um, okay, you can keep going uh, okay, yep, yep, yep.
Wilson:Uh. Bill mosley as jimmy um. He was chop top in texas chainsaw massacre 2 um. And again in rob zombie and again in Rob Zombie movies, like everyone else.
Captain:Exactly.
Wilson:His character was weird in Texas Chainsaw 2.
Captain:I don't know who. I don't remember who Jimmy is. Who is this in the movie?
Wilson:Is he one of the?
Captain:helpers.
Wilson:I think he might have been a. Well, no, because his name wouldn't tell me. His name is Jimmy. I don't remember who Jimmymy is okay, uh, all right, how does that guy play whatever? Um, all right, then we have derek.
Captain:Sheridan is mark uh, dave, dave sheridan oh sorry.
Wilson:Yes, dave, um most known playing playing Officer Doofy in Scary Movie.
Captain:I need to rewatch that.
Wilson:Yeah, like some of it does not age well, but it's still a good time, alright. And then, finally, we have Tim Curry. My Letterboxd review said I don't think you can really say that Tim Curry was in this movie, because you don't ever see his face I don't think he was there.
Captain:I think he audioed in yeah, but it's like they. I saw a couple of posters where tim curry is like build, oh yeah yeah, that's what I was gonna pull up.
Wilson:Like when you look up the letterbox, it's just his face is like half the screen.
Captain:You don't even see his face in the movie I. I mean, he's physically not there when they're filming. He just sent in a tape.
Wilson:Which I mean. That's fine if that was the job, but this movie cannot put his face on the front of the marketing. No Like it's a Tim Curry movie, Like no.
Captain:They absolutely cannot, but they did.
Wilson:Sure did.
Captain:What would you say Tim Curry's? I mean, he's from a bunch of stuff, yeah, like Rocky Horror Picture Show the TV show with Tim.
Wilson:Reed yeah, he's done a lot.
Captain:He's done so much Come.
Wilson:Alone 2.
Captain:Rocky Horror is probably. Oh yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, rocky har is the thing I wouldn't probably mostly recognize him from, but it too.
Captain:But um but he also has a good like animated uh voice, like a good yeah tim curry is still alive uh, yes, I think he is like, I don't think he does things yeah, I thought something came up about his health recently, like not that long ago, but maybe I'm thinking of somebody else oh he had a stroke in 2012 okay, um, it looks like he was in the documentary for it a couple years ago, but I wasn't sure.
Wilson:When I saw that I was like, are they just taking from old interviews when it came out, or is he actually in it? Because I hate when they do that.
Captain:Yeah, I wouldn't know, sorry, Wouldn't nay. You skipped over Terry Kisser asuce um, I keep doing that he's best known for portraying the deceased titular character, bernie lomax, in the movie weekend at bernie's. Have you seen weekend bernie's? I think so it's honestly really funny. I watched it, like I want to say, maybe like 12 years ago, and then I re-watched it again like three years ago, and it was still really funny. Um, commander, who was here?
Captain:yeah um, he never seen the movie. So when I showed it to him, um, I was like oh, I'm really hyped, I'm gonna show you this movie. Um, and he was like also kind of genuinely like happy with the movie.
Wilson:He was like this is pretty good oh, wow, okay, that's like some good credit coming from him too yes, um, but I just it's.
Captain:I don't know how this man like apparently he like I don't know if he like won awards for playing a dead body in that movie, but like I think he like was nominated or he was like well regarded for playing that burning character in Weekend at Bernie's. But anyway, it's a lot of cast in here.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:They're not all that important.
Wilson:It's mostly the main family yes, um, and it starts off with uh well, yeah, like you said earlier, um, d wallace, you, you get pretty quickly. She's the owner of like a bed and breakfast but like a hotel or a local hotel, um, and she's just cleaning up. It's established that, like the maintenance guy comes in, they've been doing some upgrades yeah, and he said there's rats in the basement or something and he wanted, or she wanted, to go look and he's like, no, no, you don't need to do that.
Wilson:So it gets kind of like, okay, he might be hiding something, um, so anyway, he, he, what um, you don't necessarily see him, but you see, duellis.
Captain:Her vacuum stopped working because somebody cut the cord, and then shortly after that she gets picked up and thrown into a glass table.
Wilson:Oh yeah, there's a hooded figure that walked in after the maintenance guy left.
Captain:Yeah, yeah, and that's it for Duellis.
Wilson:Oh no.
Captain:You see a brief scene of her tied up or something.
Wilson:Yeah, and they drill a hole in her head.
Captain:Yeah, she's like she dies.
Wilson:She's basically out, or I mean she is out.
Captain:I mean, maybe she recovers from the drill hole, who knows? Yeah, who knows.
Wilson:So then after that it cuts to this family. It's like a mom, son and a daughter. The daughter's like gets brought home by the police for like underage drinking or something.
Captain:Yeah, she's, you know, a typical teenager um attitude, um. But what's weird is that like, not only is she like a teenager, like fuck you dad, but she also thinks it's like very, very funny and she's laughing about it. I'm like there ain't nothing funny about cops dragging you home. No I don't care what age you are. That's not funny that cops are bringing you home. Yeah, she gets mad at her dad for saying next time it happens, I'm just going to leave you in jail. Not the best relationship.
Wilson:Oh wait, I just realized we missed someone like the mom.
Captain:danielle harris is an actress, yeah oh, I feel like she didn't come up when I or maybe I accidentally- skipped her kind of low down but like, if you look at her like she's done a lot what has she done? I don't recognize her um, okay, so she.
Wilson:Well, she was in halloween. Four and five. Um, oh, let's see, she was an urban legend. Um, regrets go wild. Wait, she voiced, she voices. Yeah, oh my gosh, yes, she voices debbie thornberry oh, debbie yeah, the the teenage sister. Yeah, yeah, she was in Halloween 2, like the remake. Let's see, did she?
Captain:come up in a different. I feel like she came up in a different movie we did. Now that I hear Debbie Thornberry, I swear that came up before in a movie.
Wilson:I think it did too. I mean, did we do a newer Halloween?
Captain:I don't think so. I don't think we did anything.
Wilson:Well then, unless we did Urban Legend.
Captain:I don't know that we Unless we just talked about it, but I swear, what's her name?
Wilson:Danielle Harris.
Captain:Danielle Harris. Danielle Harris. Oh, it's weird. In the movie I didn't recognize her, but looking at the pictures on Google I'm like, oh yeah, I do recognize this face Interesting, yeah, so she does a good bit.
Wilson:Sorry, oops, yeah, she does do all the Halloween stuff in all fairness, she's listed really far down on the Wikipedia okay that's probably why I didn't grab her yeah, so anyway, she's okay. She's kind of annoying, but I mean the character we did the original Halloween, didn't we? Yeah, but she wasn't in that yeah, I don't know.
Wilson:I don't know. Yeah, but she wasn't in that. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know um, yeah, but anyway. So the father decides like hey, let's go on a family trip, um he's like wants to reset the family after they're going through this yeah, what are they going through?
Captain:oh, just that okay well, it's weird that with the first scene we see of the father is that he's crying watching old home videos, and I swore I was seeing that being like oh, he must be sad that his like wife died or one of his kids died, or like the family's broken. It's like no, everyone's here. The sister's a little bratty, but like that's the most they're going through, so I.
Wilson:It was a strange way to start start his scenes yeah, uh, and like he wants to go to this hotel where I guess they vacationed in the past and there's, like in a nondescript park nearby that the kids excited for yeah, I think is this in the poconos I don't know I feel like they said this was in the poconos and I was like, uh, that's why it's like in the middle of nowhere okay, well they, when they get the hotel like this does not sound like a fun trip.
Wilson:They basically dragged the girl there and she didn't she didn't even want to go, I mean no, no, wi-fi. And then they're just mad that she's not having fun. I, like you, didn't even try to tailor the vacation or ask their opinion why, would you?
Captain:yeah, and I think um the as soon as they get there, um like she already decides to fuck off from her family. She sees what those two boys Two French guys. Yeah, that are you know, like around her age that she's like oh, I'll just go talk to them at the bar. Meanwhile they meet Mr Lockwood at check-in and he's a real fucking weirdo about like oh, the old credit card machine on the fritz like oh yeah, so creepy in that scene.
Wilson:Yeah, and jeffrey coombs or combs, if anyone forgot who mr lockwood was.
Captain:But yeah, this is his character um, and then I can't remember, they kind of cut back and forth between them. I don't remember what.
Wilson:So we don't know necessarily yet that he's super mischievous, but he does turn out to be a bad guy. But yeah, so Taylor, or whatever, sneaks on the roof with one of the boys and she's like you know what. We should ditch your friend and go to a concert, because I want to go yeah, I want to steal his concert ticket.
Captain:This is after. I think she already found out that the family, the dad, bought them tickets to like ultra zone or something, which is like it sounds like a an old, not super fun amusement park that she's already been to a bunch. Yeah, so like she already has a plan to be with her family and she's already been to a bunch, yeah. So like she already has a plan to be with her family and she's like, nah, nah.
Wilson:I'm good.
Captain:Thanks, yeah, and like she doesn't get along with her dad, but at least her mom was trying to be cool about it, like when her mom meets her in the bar and it's like, listen, I know this might not be of cool about it, so you would think that she would give them some, like her mom's trying to meet her halfway, you would think that she would try a little bit, but no but no, and, and then once she leaves with this guy, we basically don't see her until the very end of the movie, like oh, I guess, yeah, I guess, that's true there's like a scene in a car later where she's like um, so they're on their way to the concert and she's like actually I want to go home yeah, yeah, that's true.
Captain:Yeah, so she sneaks out in the middle of the night and the family yeah, the family doesn't realize that. Um, I think the first, is it the first kill we see? After d wallace is at the end of the night, the bartender goes to the arcade, or?
Wilson:yeah, I didn't know I I think I just didn't realize it was the bartender. But yeah, I think he is like one of the first yeah, the bar like closes up.
Captain:He goes to play in the arcade and then he's like um, he sees somebody standing behind him and he's like our kid's closed buddy. I'm just doing, uh, some maintenance meanwhile, he is so actively playing a game, um, but he gets like yeeted up by a like bodybuilder with like a number four or something on his chest and, um, his eye gets beaten in by the joystick. So this movie is real like um, it definitely has like that terror terrifier vibe where it's real gutsy yeah, they did have some fun with like eyeballs eyeballs popping out yeah
Wilson:yeah, so you get all of that with them with our paid kill and I think, as this is happening, we start to get the picture that, like there are cameras all over the place and it's being watched by mr lockwood and there are cameras all over the place and it's being watched by Mr Lockwood and there are players with these like numbers on their chest.
Captain:Yeah, there's like one, two, three, four and I think very shortly after that you get the romantic couple, the couple that was like making out all over each other in the like honeymoon suite. Dude, that was such an intense scene. I was like you got to get these ladies somewhere else.
Wilson:Yeah, they were like everywhere that was an intense like sex scene or whatever in that hot tub.
Captain:I was like they're just it went on for so long I was like I get it, she's got them, but they're bouncing everywhere like can you I?
Wilson:I get it and you hear like the water slapping.
Captain:Yeah, oh, that's the other thing I was like I don't think you're supposed to be fucking in a hot tub. Like I'm pretty sure that's not good for your lady part. Like I'm pretty sure utis happen that way.
Wilson:Like yeah, no one's gonna have a good time from this almost confident that hot tub fucking is not ideal for you maybe do you think a possible yeast infection was the first thing on her mind when she was about to die like she was like what about my yeast infection?
Captain:I, I don't know well.
Wilson:So she looks up because somebody's standing in the room and they like drag her out of the hot tub and then another player comes in and just like.
Captain:Axes or something. The boy I can't remember what tool he uses. Yeah.
Wilson:And then she, like, runs up so she escapes her first attacker runs up and just scream cries at the guy's dead body but, like lady, there are two murderers in that room now and you're just standing there, she does do something.
Captain:She hits one of them.
Wilson:I think she gets a hit in on one of them yeah, so she does like start to make it out in the hallway, but they they drag her back in well, yeah, I mean, she's got her yiddies out, I mean she did um, but yeah, I, I just I was like I get it, you're trying to do a sex scene in a horror movie.
Captain:It's just like I don't know it went on for longer than necessary. Um, but yeah, so that's that's.
Wilson:That's the next one yeah, so uh, what do we have next? I think we're getting really close to the scene where people are collecting in the outdoor courtyard and where the rules are explained.
Captain:Yeah, I think yeah. The dad and the son realize that they're locked in. No doors will be allowed.
Wilson:Oh yeah, because they go looking for Taylor. Yeah, sorry.
Captain:They do go looking for Taylor, and that's when they meet. What's that guy's name? Tim Reed Looking for Taylor. I didn't take great notes because I was a little preoccupied, but I can't remember. I think the next kill is the mom, maybe.
Wilson:Well, I mean so when everyone goes out in that courtyard like before the mom dies they explain the rules, like you know, Mr Lockwood. Yeah, they're like these players are going to kill you and they turn all the lights out and when they turn them back on, the drunk guy is dead and his wife is dead yeah, his character is actually pretty funny in the movie, like he's like screaming, you know, hell, yeah, brother, like I don't know, it's pretty.
Captain:I wasn't mad about his drunk character. There's that old guy that um was like uh, you know tim, you know bernard is an ex-cop and he has a gun on him and you know you're thinking like shoot him. Like why aren't you shooting these, these people? And um, some old guy walks out of the hotel and tries to grab the gun from bernard to get some shots in um, but I think that old guy also gets killed while the lights are out he does, yeah, and I.
Wilson:I think some lady accidentally gets shot in the foot or something.
Captain:Is it the drunk guy's wife? Maybe Donna?
Wilson:Yeah, I don't remember, but anyway. So the dad and Bernard hide and they escape this initial thing here, but I think, while this is happening, this is what you were saying that the mom, they sneak into her room and she's dead and they use they like uh, what? Like hereditary hanging in the tree house, like the solid or neck.
Captain:Basically, now she did. She was also smart. I really was expecting her to live through all of this because she was. She seemed intelligent from before the kills started. Um, and she, you know, I don't know, she just I think she gets like barb wire across the throat.
Wilson:I was just surprised she was dead so early oh yeah, I didn't think they'd kill her, or at least, yeah, definitely not that I don't know if you noticed, but when they killed her she was sitting in a chair reading a book that just said like satan on the front oh, it's like what?
Captain:yeah, we all commented on it when we were watching the movie. We're like does that just say satan? But I think they were just having fun huh, okay um, yeah, but yeah, the dad comes back to the room and obviously he's freaking out, right roy uh, he does eventually come back and he like prevents his son from seeing that.
Wilson:But I think he does kind of figure it out.
Captain:Yeah, I mean Bernard and him. Take what's his name, kevin? To a different hotel room and you know, I think he figures, I think he realizes something's wrong with his mom. But they're like, you know, just sit here, you know, play on your computer and don't open the door for anybody except me, and we're going to go figure out what's going on. And then I think it's a little bit later, but Kevin actually gets to see the live stream cameras from his iPad.
Wilson:He does. He just joins the Wi-Fi. Yeah, so he kind of knows what's going on dude, they literally were like he hacked us. I'm like he just joined the same wi-fi yeah whoever wrote this does not understand what hacking or wi-fi is no, it was just yeah it was just silly, but at this point we know that there are people virtually watching these kills and basically bidding on what player can kill all of them yeah, I didn't quite understand the money concept in the game.
Captain:I was like so you kill one, you and you survive, you get money. But you can like bet who wins, like who has, who survives, or you know who has the most, like you can bet on, basically on anything, I guess it seems like it yeah, okay yeah, and there's like a live stream like you're getting on basically on anything, I guess it seems like it.
Captain:Yeah, okay, yeah, and there's like a live stream like you're getting like the live chat um in lockwood's back room, as this is going on, so we get to see that as the audience um, and then what?
Wilson:at one point, I think, um, the dad and bernard are, you know, like exploring, trying to figure things out, and I think that bernard shoots one of the attackers, um, but then when another one pins the dad, bernard's like oh yeah, actually I'm not a yeah, he's like sorry.
Captain:I think he is a retired cop, but he just says sorry, like I got my money that I came here for yeah, so he was a bidder yes, um, which honestly, the fact that he didn't shoot during that meetup on the court. I already thought I was suspicious as hell. I was like he's in on it 100, because why would you not shoot when they literally told you it's time to play.
Captain:You are all going to be killed yeah, like why would you not shoot, especially because bernard even made a comment about how he was on a case many years ago in a different city that was very similar to this. I'm like, okay, well, take the safety off.
Wilson:Like, get to it yeah, so, um, basically, after this he goes to try to make sure that, uh what, the kid died and the dad because that way his bid wins.
Captain:Yeah, he's the last one to survive as a guest at the hotel. But before he gets to Lockwood um, lockwood um gets mad that Kevin quote unquote hacked them. So he goes and steals Kevin. I think, um, but I think Kevin gets away from him and now Kevin's like running around the hotel just hiding from the killers. I believe, yes.
Wilson:And at one point Bernard makes it to like the control room and he, like everyone, thinks he won because it looked like the dad died, so he was like rejoicing that he won all his money.
Captain:Yeah, it looked like player one died, um, so he was like originally seeing that, yeah, it looks like player one or player three, or player, yeah, two or three, I think it looks like it stabs roy, um, and then it's like part of it happens off camera, but you still, yeah, you assume he's dead and then, so you see, um, then lockwood comes in behind bernard and basically starts to kill him because he's like you broke the rules, you interfered to make it, so your bid won.
Wilson:Uh, so he's getting punched for that. But basically, while he's dying, um lockwood points out or notices that the dad did not get killed, he just put on number one's uniform. So he's still alive. And yeah, he wouldn't have gotten the money anyway yes, yeah.
Captain:So yeah, I don't do we. I don't know if we find out how he survives, but I guess he just, you know, overpowers number one and then just, yeah, really smart for him to put on the uniform. But yeah, he just puts on that clothing and then he goes to find where his son, kevin, went, and kevin's almost about to be killed by player two, um, but because he, like you know, pretends he's teaming up with player two and like gonna work with him to kill the kid, um, but then he intervenes and gets kevin out of there, um, it was a good trick too no, it was good, um, so I can't remember.
Captain:And what happens after that? The two of them get out of there.
Wilson:Oh yeah, they almost make it out yeah.
Captain:Lockwood reveals that he's like the witch, not witch doctor. What is that? Plague doctor, and he's still alive.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:Remember in the lobby that Taylor comes back.
Wilson:Yes, yeah. So she's like back at the hotel now because she wanted to come back and roy's still in disguise. Yes, player one, but I think what, right before that they do kill lockwood well, yeah, it seems like they killed him, yeah yeah, um. And then she comes in. Look, you think everyone's fine and like blood spurts out of the dad's mouth because Taylor came up behind him thinking he was a player and she killed him and I'm like yeah, it was an accident, but this daughter, she's the worst daughter in person.
Captain:She kills the dad, like as the dad is comforting Kevin, being like we made it. And then he's like, and then he like, then he like, is you know, coughing up blood in kevin's face. I'm like, dear lord, the trauma, trauma would be brutal. Um, and then, on top of that, lockwood's not even dead, I think he. He pops back up and, uh, taylor finally beheads him with a hatchet. Um, but it's not good for kevin, dude, he's not gonna have a good time no, it's actually like in the final scene.
Wilson:Oh sorry, continue, I was gonna say at this point, all of the players have died.
Captain:We haven't mentioned all of them, but like, oh yeah, there was yeah, there was like two or three other rooms of people, but, um, yeah, so kevin and taylor are the only ones that make it out. Um, but the final scene with the ambulance stuff.
Captain:I thought that was pretty cool uh, do you remember that what I mean I remember them getting coffee or something, but that was it well, they get in the back of an ambulance and one of the paramedics that are there you can see that he was watching the stream the whole time and he was like he was like I won some money or something.
Wilson:You're like damn a paramedic um, yeah, so like everyone's in on the game, yeah, like a lot of people are in it, yeah, and then after that is when you get the um, is it a mid-credit?
Captain:is tony todd stuff in mid-credit or is that? Oh no, is that before that?
Wilson:um, it was before that, I think yeah yeah, so like yeah, yeah, and basically it was like this monologue by Tony Todd about like the purpose of the game and such.
Captain:It was very like lofty or I don't know yeah, I can't remember what he says, but the monologue, I mean it monologues, a good word for it. But yeah, he just goes into how Taylor and Kevin are the winners. I don't know how they get their cash. And then maybe they don't just the people that betted. And then, yeah, like they're about to set up a new game and you know they're doing this because people like to watch it and win money.
Wilson:Yes, and then we see like the final scene, and I thought this actually went on for a long time.
Captain:The mid-credit one.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, like I think the last one we see, which is the new setup, and I was like I was thinking I still have not seen Tim Curry in this movie.
Captain:Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. To be honest, we saw Tony Todd. I was happy about that.
Wilson:Yeah, I was like was he somehow a player, but so this is at a movie theater. Some new characters are being introduced, but I'm like you're spending a lot of time on these characters. But anyway, you see a different or head guy like of this betting organization or whatever, and he has a mask on and it's tim curry's voice, or at least I'm pretty sure it was yeah, no, it is tim curry's verse.
Captain:I don't remember what he says besides something along the lines of like it's time to play, or you know, yeah, just like a, basically you're fucked, I guess yeah, uh, I yeah I was a little. I yeah they really should have, like, maybe downplayed the tim curry stuff a little bit yeah compared to what they did um.
Wilson:But I think that's the final scene yeah, uh, I'm gonna, I'll jump into some numbers.
Captain:Yeah, uh, I'm gonna, I'll jump into some numbers first, oh yeah, which leads me into a piece of hot goss. Okay, I don't know, did you? I didn't pull any box office stuff. I don't know if there is stuff uh, I didn't either.
Wilson:I see, it was crowd streamy.
Captain:Well, it.
Wilson:Oh yeah, the topic, the release. It was supposed to be theatrical but it only got video on demand.
Captain:Because it didn't have enough.
Wilson:I don't know why. It said it was announced to be theatrically released in August, but then it was just released digitally on demand. Okay, it came out in two months later well, it ended up coming out two months later oh okay or something. Yeah, I don't know, it was odd, um, but that'll lead me to some well, a couple hot goss, I guess.
Captain:Um, actually some of these don't look that interesting I mean, I found a little bit, but that's all I really found there's the one I mentioned earlier, just with like tim curry and tim reed joined like being in the same, oh, from the it series, but they weren't even in the same scene.
Wilson:so no. I mean, were they?
Captain:really united if Tim Curry wasn't on set.
Wilson:True.
Captain:I mean, I just you know, the producers and crew members of Stream were previously involved in a lot of stuff already, like the Terrifier movies, the Rob Zombie stuff. A lot of it was People had already worked together and then I did see that in June 2025 it was announced that Stream 2 was in the works, the sequel.
Captain:I guess, and this is also one of damn man. This is also one of Tony Chow's last films before he died. So this came out august 21st. It says august 21st 2024. Tim curry or not tim curry. Tony todd died, uh, november 6, 2024. So like what? Six weeks later?
Wilson:I wonder when they filmed it yeah, that that's true.
Captain:I don't know when they filmed, but it was like literally one of his last movies.
Wilson:Wow, I guess Final.
Captain:Destination too.
Wilson:It was okay. I did find that they said in September 2021 that over 90% of the movie was already shot.
Captain:Yeah, I feel like Dee Wallace told us about it. That's why.
Wilson:Oh, wow, okay, so this was a while before Tony Todd died.
Captain:Okay, but what about the Final Destination? Because I feel like that might have been filmed more recently. Oh yeah, yeah.
Wilson:I think, that's definitely true.
Captain:Yeah, so I don't, you know, hate this movie. I don't understand the ratings that it has. What's going on there?
Wilson:all right, you're saying, you're telling me that this rotten tomatoes is accurate that's what it says so you're telling me, critics gave this a 95 and audience gave it 93 I.
Captain:You can double check me, I swear, that's what it says I don't, I don't understand who who are the critics? Yeah, who I don't I mean, I have it up right now. That's what it says. Critics gave this thing a 95.
Wilson:Audience score was a 93 I don't know, man, this is I I mean you know the movie is.
Captain:I think it doesn't take itself too seriously, which definitely helps fine 95 is crazy dude, I don't know that's, that's, yeah, I, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I'm trying to look at like what I mean. What do they say?
Wilson:like some of these are like basically saying they know what, they know what type of movie they are and they're just embracing it like yeah, if you know what to expect when you walk in, you'll have a good time.
Captain:It says some of these are like stream. Is not, you know, the the normal formula for one of these movies? It it swings hard and has a blast doing it. It says an intriguing premise. I mean, there are other movies that like kill on camera.
Wilson:Um yeah, it definitely has a sense of humor.
Captain:Yeah, so with a 95 and a 93, where are you landing here?
Wilson:I mean, my letterbox was a two, oh yeah, and one of those stars I said was devoted to Jeffrey Combs, so it was an interesting concept, that's Lockwood, yeah. But I didn't like it and also I felt like it was 30 minutes too long.
Captain:I remember when I was watching it being like, okay, there's a little bit of lulls between some of the kills and then sometimes the kills are really fast and I wish it was a little bit more even.
Wilson:Yeah, when I was at the halfway mark I was like, come on.
Captain:Some scenes are slow and then some scenes you're like I got yiddies in my face for 15 minutes. It's like I don't know where we're landing here. I didn't rate this on Letterboxd yet I don't think, but I think. Oh no, I did rate this. Wow, I rated this higher than what I I'm going to push that down just a smidge I rated that higher than what I remember reading that. Yeah, I'd give it like a three on Letterboxd, I think.
Wilson:Okay, what percentage is?
Captain:that it has a storyline. Dee Wallace is in there, tony Todd's in there. It's a little gory for my liking, a little too gory. Um, I think, yeah, I'd give that movie like, yeah, like a 60 60 is good.
Wilson:I gave it a 35 damn. I was not pleased.
Captain:Really Like at all.
Wilson:It was fine, I just got bored.
Captain:Okay, I'll take the board. That's fine.
Wilson:Did you have a razor glass?
Captain:Oh, I think I do have a razor glass actually, so I think my razor glass is Okay. One of the kills we didn't talk about there's like a group of kids in one of the rooms where I don't know if they're a throuple, I don't know if it's two girls and their gay best friend. I don't know what's going on there, but they get killed. You know, in a hallway, whatever. But the man that they're with, they like crucify him, they like nail his hands and his legs down. And then one of the what is it? Player like two and four or something, two and three. They are supposedly brother and sister murderers, so they like work together it kind of is giving like Harley Quinn.
Captain:Anyway, they decide to rip his shirt open and they make a tic-tac-toe board on his chest and they're playing tic-tac-toe on him while he's like bleeding out slowly.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:And it's just so dramatic.
Wilson:And they've been doing it for so long.
Captain:It's just like, but it is creative. I have not seen that before, so I think I would give that my raise the glass. Or the drunk guy yelling at his wife. I think part of that scene made me laugh, when he was like drunkenly, oh yeah, because he says like hey, these are you know. He's like, she's like you know. Donna comes out, she's like you know. Whatever his name is in the movie, what's his name? Joe or something? Uh, no, dan. She's like dan, what the fuck are you doing? Like it's time to go to bed. And he's like hey, these are my new friends. Uh, roy and bernard, no, it's just like. He literally just like learned their names right now. And he says something about how like roy has has like some dumb kid or something, and I don't know. That scene made me laugh, but I think the tic-tac-toe would be my actual rag if I had to choose. What about you?
Wilson:um well, the scene that shocked me the most was like slamming this guy's head into a joystick controller or his eyeball. But in general I just really like jeffrey combs, so I'd say in general he's my razor glass okay, you love the general razor glass just always raised if it doesn't. Well, I need to get better about picking a scene. While I'm watching a movie. I'm like this is my razor glass I try, I have tried.
Captain:I feel like I've gotten really good at that because I've actually put the effort into checking.
Wilson:I'm sorry.
Captain:I mean, if you really want to know, if I really want to brag, I literally put the digital highlighter on my rag in my notes.
Wilson:Fine, I'll consider it for next time.
Captain:Okay, oh, I don't know if you we we talked about it briefly, but do you remember what we're doing next time? This is a your pick oh, we're doing. Uh, let me try to remember the name myself, um it's like um super nope, sorority, bolorama sorority.
Wilson:Bola-rama.
Captain:Sorority Babes in the Slime Ball Bola-rama.
Wilson:From 1988.
Captain:And this is based off of that other 80s movie we did where they're singing in the mirror witch house. What's happening in that movie, remember they like there's ghost slime.
Wilson:That wasn't Night of the Demons, was it? Was it Night of the Demons? Was it? Was it Night?
Captain:of the Demons, maybe when they're like. They go to an abandoned house and they like play music and dance around. Yeah, something's killing them.
Wilson:I think that was. I think that is what that is.
Captain:Oh yeah, it was a Halloween movie we did.
Wilson:It was on Halloween. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Captain:Yeah, it was on halloween. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is in response to watching that movie. Um, I did check to make sure this movie is streamable, because we had an issue, uh, recently with a not streamable movie. So I was like, let me make sure and we can, we can find this online, so that's good okay, um but we're gonna be doing that one in person.
Wilson:Oh.
Captain:Exciting. Yeah, and we'll have a special guest, or two yeah, hop in a pool Time to podcast.
Wilson:Time to podcast.
Captain:So I expect myself to hate that movie. So congratulations, we'll have a good time. Okay, that movie. So congratulations, we'll have a good time.
Wilson:Okay.
Captain:Based on this movie. Here I feel like you could pull some advice for me if I need some advice.
Wilson:Yeah, don't go on vacation with your family.
Captain:Just don't do it at all yeah, just don't. Wow Okay.
Wilson:I don't deserve it. Okay, that's fine, I don't deserve it.
Captain:Okay, that's fine. Sometimes that's how it is, yeah.