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The Commuter
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This week, Captain and Wilson expand their horizons a bit and discuss a thriller - "The Commuter," which is a 2018 film directed by Jaume Collet-Serra. It stars Liam Neeson, Vera Farmiga, Patrick Wilson, Jonathan Banks, Sam Neill, and more.
The film discussion begins around 19:00.
Brain Fog and Cleaning Out Closets
Captainyou know , earlier this week I was having the most in brain . What ? The most insane brain fog of my entire life . Wow , yeah , it was really weird , but that's what happens when you never get sick . Maybe you got baby COVID , I guess that's possible . You know , I was thinking the other day . I'm pretty sure I threw my card away . But you don't throw things away , I'm sure you have yours , uh .
WilsonBut yeah , I do . I mean that's to me , that's an important medical record , so I kept it .
CaptainI mean it's possible , I have mine , but if I had to guess , I you know I did . I actually found recently that I have a um like a , scanned in digital copy of it oh okay , well then it's okay okay , okay , I'm glad , I'm glad dr wilson agrees I did throw away things this week whoa like what um , so the closet behind me is it was basically full to like my height , because like it was just stacks of stuff , because I didn't just stuff yeah , I just .
WilsonI didn't have a place better place for it after we moved in . I just put it in the closet I'm sorry , it's just stuff , sir yeah . So then I was like you know what , I'm tired of this . So I I cleaned it out and I can put stuff in there .
CaptainNow you threw , threw stuff away .
WilsonSome stuff and then I put things in their proper place or places that make sense .
CaptainOh , so there were places , or sorry , there were things that should have been somewhere else from the jump .
WilsonYeah , oh yeah .
CaptainHow much did you throw away ?
WilsonNot that much , but it is organized better now . Can only you know growth is is a slow . It's a slow process . It is a slow an uphill battle .
CaptainThat's funny . Um well , I mean , I can still be proud of you thank you um so you had a , you had a trip recently . I did have a trip recently . Oh , what the heck is this ? Nobody asked for this .
WilsonWhat are you talking ?
Captainabout . Sorry , I'm like I don't even know what life is right now . I had a trip recently , very good trip . We went to New York City and that was not supposed to be the main part of the trip , but we saw stranger things . What's that called stranger things ?
Wilsonyeah , I was kind of curious what the that's , the
Stranger Things: The First Shadow
Wilsonyeah oh , the first shadow .
CaptainOkay , dude , I like this is not even like . I cannot hype this up enough . I'm so sorry . It is so visually insane to like when you're watching it . It doesn't even look real like . That is . It deserves all the hype . The visual of the , the physical like . Watching it I was like is this a movie like ? I don't , I like , don't even . I can't even explain to you how good they do with the production of it wow like I I've never seen anything like that in my life .
CaptainI , I like can't even like . It's hard to fathom . While while I'm watching it , my jaw was like on the floor because it's like how are you doing this ?
WilsonI'm like not , I'm like , I'm not like over hyping this what if it was just a trick and it was just a giant movie screen ?
CaptainI honestly would be like that makes that makes the most sense of about . Like what I saw uh , so good though . Like I cannot recommend that show enough . Like the acting was good , the the you know story was was cool , but like the visuals of it was like so astounding , like you got to see it like I don't know .
WilsonYou just have to we did seriously look into how we could change our upcoming travel plans to incorporate that . It's not going to work out , but we did try and we were really close to getting tickets .
CaptainIt's so crazy Good Like I . I don't know I can't . I'm like so glad I saw it . I don't know Um .
Wilsondid Jay like it too ?
CaptainYes , and you know it's crazy , we , as we're in the like we're in there with like it's packed in there , like we're packed in and like we're around other people that are also like like everyone's having reactions , like I don't know , it was a very interactive crowd which I usually am , like not a huge fan of , but like I don't know , you're just watching something astounding that everyone's kind of gooped and gagged . I don't know it's crazy , but I don't want to give anything away . That's why I'm not saying anything specific , because I need to go see it .
WilsonYeah , I need to figure out how long it's there or if it'll come back or if there's another way I can see it . But I would like to .
CaptainYeah , I really don't want to give anything away , because I think don't want to give anything away and I'm because I think that would , yeah , impact the show . Um , but it's good , uh , the , the , yeah , the guy that plays the main character . Again , I'm not gonna say anything else , but like , um , really , really good one really um like honed in his craft okay , so they deserve to be on broadway yes , um , like all the awards that they've been nominated or won , I totally get it and it's not a musical right , it is not a musical .
CaptainThere is like one musical number um , but it doesn't .
CaptainIt's not a musical I'm just picturing like a like stranger things , like the intro no , there's one musical number that like it's not whatever , but um , I mean , there's like , yeah , I don't , I'm trying not to say anything , I don't want to ruin it . You know , I didn't realize this at the beginning , which I don't think this will ruin it . I think this will actually make life simple . But I didn't realize that when they were the teenagers at the beginning , I didn't realize that was the same adults in the show , adults in the show . So it is . Yeah , so it does like , it does coincide with , like hopper , and I can't remember that girl's name . Will's mom ?
Captainoh uh , joyce yeah , yeah , when they're like itsies in high school tykes , yeah , okay um , because I didn't put that together until like further on in the show and I was like in the play and I was like , oh , but you don't need to like watch any of Stranger Things to go see this play , because it's all a prequel .
WilsonWell , I already saw all of Stranger Things .
CaptainWell , okay , but I haven't rewatched any of it , like I'm sure I need to rewatch it before the new season comes out , which I know we talked about last time . I have not touched it . We're trying to watch Wednesday . I think we only have two episodes left .
WilsonI have not started the new season yet , but I don't know when I'm going to get to it , because I just made a list of all the spooky TV shows over the last several years that I would like to re-watch during this halloween season re-watch yeah , like I want to watch like several of mike flanagan's netflix shows and what else I forgot , what else I put on the list . But that's like like midnight mass I haven't seen since it came out and I'm like it's a good year to .
CaptainIt is a good , it's a really good show . Yeah , I wish Wednesday was different . I'm not a huge fan . I mean , it's fine , I was expecting something else . Like , I'm going to finish it , there's only two episodes left , but yeah , I get why it doesn't have good like . It has like okay ratings , especially compared to the first season , and then , um , I feel like there was something else we were watching , oh , alien earth . But I haven't , we haven't caught up , we're behind , wait how far behind , so you watched . Like the first three episodes .
WilsonOh man .
CaptainI know Episode like five .
WilsonI think is really good .
CaptainI heard , I saw some stuff about it and I know we have to watch . Well listen , this weekend I'm not doing nothing . I was excited to sit in the house . Do you know that meme where it's like what are you doing this weekend ?
TV Shows: Wednesday and Alien Earth
WilsonIt's like I'm enjoying my rent . I haven't heard that before .
CaptainYou've never heard that . Oh , I love that line .
WilsonOh , I got to use that .
CaptainBecause I so rarely get to just sit in the house and do nothing and I'm like , ooh , it's time to rot yes .
WilsonCatch up on that . Um , I have , like I I made it like my routine now tuesday nights , like after we get back from trivia . I'm like the light's going way down . I'm gonna watch the new episode of alien earth .
CaptainGet kind of freaked out , wow wow , that sounds like such a vibe it is a vibe . It's really good okay , all right , well , we'll have to catch up on that . Well , I think the big thing was dexter . That was like the big thing oh my gosh , I forgot I we like it took . I was very upset that I couldn't watch the finale that came out on friday until monday , but nothing .
CaptainWe were able to avoid spoilers , yes I saw like a couple of screenshots , but nothing that like . If I ever saw like I just would scroll , I wouldn't even look at it , I wouldn't even process it . So I didn't get any spoilers . I'm so glad that episode was crazy .
WilsonIt was really good .
CaptainI loved seeing Brian Love seeing .
WilsonBrian , I was , yeah , yeah , spoiler . Yeah , that gagged me a little bit because I mean I was like maybe Deb might do like an appearance , but I was like never expecting . I don't know the actor's name but Brian .
CaptainThe fact that they could bring back so many actors from the show is crazy , like Quinn Masuka Batista , yeah , brian Moser , and then you know , harry is in there , deb's in there . I'm like this is like basically everyone left . Even Dokes came back like for a ghost scene , you know , in the beginning of the season .
WilsonOh yeah .
CaptainWell , yeah , yeah , the only people we haven't seen is like as a ghost is , like you know , maria . But I mean , why would she be a ghost ? But you know what I mean .
WilsonLike I mean why would she be a ghost ? But you know what I mean .
CaptainLike , almost every character from the first , from the main cast is back , which is like crazy to have .
WilsonYou know , and I don't honestly , even if it wouldn't make sense somehow . I just hope next season they're like Deb was actually alive the whole time . I just like they're not going to do it , but I feel like they're already at that point where , like , everyone would forgive them for doing that , because it would be like correcting the finale , like the original finale Dude .
CaptainThis show like I don't know how long they've been cooking it , but it is serving , like I don't know man , like Michelin stars to the chef . This is like it's so good , Like I mean , the lowest rated episode on IMD is like 8.9 or something . It's like I cannot get over how well they did and I'm so excited for the next season . I know I'm a little yeah , I'm a little upset that the prequel got .
WilsonOriginal Sin .
CaptainOriginal Sin .
WilsonI'm still bummed about like they were all really good in their like playing those characters and I feel like I think that's mostly why I feel bad , because I don't know , they probably had this like what they thought would be this really cool gig yeah christian slater is the only big name , like the other people in that .
CaptainI think this is like their main big role . I do kind of feel shitty for them . They deserved more .
WilsonAnd I wanted more . I know , I know Same .
CaptainBut maybe they will find a way to weasel back into the franchise somehow .
WilsonMaybe , but that's so shitty they renewed it and went back on the renewal .
CaptainYeah , I don't know how that works . Did those people sign a contract already ?
WilsonI think it's because Paramount was purchased and that messed everything up .
CaptainWell , they need to un-mess it up .
WilsonYeah , have you heard anything about the Trinity show that's supposed to come soon , uh , I did hear about that but I was like I was thinking I heard they are canceling it what they're only doing I could be mistaken , but I I thought I had heard that they were gonna only focus on resurrection wow , that's , that's crazy . I could be wrong , but I think with this shake-up of Paramount being bought , everyone's like okay , well , screw everything else .
CaptainI'm not finding anything . Oh wait , maybe I don't know . This is confusing . The screen grabs they have for Lithgow , john Lithgow , are so unfortunate to him sometimes .
WilsonI guess I haven't really seen any .
CaptainI just like I don't know when they're . It's yeah , I don't , this is not . I don't know . You might have a better luck than I would . Oh , I see , despite the spinoff being written , it hasn't been picked up yet . It's completely written . It says picked up yet it's completely written . It says john lithgow already agreed to do it . Like everything's written john lithgow's in . They just haven't had somebody pick it up yet .
WilsonWow they , they're , I mean they . They could easily still change it , but the wikipedia says it's still in development . There's just no date for it . And it's still in development . There's just no date for it and it's untitled .
CaptainWell , someone get on that . Where's Netflix when you need them ? Dude like Netflix will pick up basically anything .
WilsonYeah .
CaptainSo get on there . Sad Anyway , is that what we have this week ?
WilsonOh the Conjuring , oh yeah , yeah , this doesn't be long , I don't . I didn't see you
Dexter Resurrection Discussion
Wilsonlog in on imd or a letterbox , but did you see the new conjuring ?
Captainno , not yet sorry , I I saw it last night .
WilsonUm , it was better than the previous one okay , but the previous one was not good um , yeah , I , overall I had a good time . Um , the only thing I'll say about it and it's not a spoiler , but I think that the like vera and patrick wilson's characters , like their characters , carry that franchise so hard yeah , like if it wasn't for them it wouldn't , I don't know we would have lost this speaking of them um yeah , the last movie I watched .
CaptainOh , I watched a netflix movie too , but um , that catfish movie , um , have you seen that on social media ?
Wilsonwell , I've heard of it .
CaptainI think maybe I've seen some clips , but I haven't watched it yeah , I watched that and then , um , jay got me to watch speed after I said I had never seen it oh yeah , I saw .
WilsonYou gave it like two stars or three or something it's three and a half .
CaptainOkay , keanu reeves is such a bad actor like I can't get over how much of a bad actor he is . At least in the he he doesn't have a lot of range , like his acting is . He's a perfect for roles like the matrix , where he's got to be like a little weird , a little wonky dude okay I'll need to re-watch speed because I haven't watched it so or , like john , wick , where it's like he needs to just be like a monotone , no emotion .
CaptainIn that movie . He's supposed to be like a normal dude that has , like you know , normal conversations and emotions . I'm like , dude , you can't do that . He just can't do it and that's fine . It's just weird to see him do that . He's like , oh , this is so important . I'm like , okay , but where's the cadence in your voice to show that ?
WilsonYou're saying that Sandy carried that movie . A cadence in your voice to show that . So you're saying that Sandy carried that movie , um or not really .
CaptainYou know , I think the villain guy actually carries that movie . If I had , to say Pop quiz , hot shot , hot shot .
WilsonAnd I think we agreed last podcast that Jeff Daniels is the bad guy .
CaptainNo , jeff Daniels is a friend .
WilsonOh .
CaptainIt's the other guy , the old guy .
WilsonMaybe I got confused when I was re-listening for that episode .
CaptainYou have not seen that movie in a while .
WilsonYeah , I really haven't .
CaptainWhat's K-Pop ? Demon Hunters .
WilsonYou haven't seen that yet . You haven't seen any memes about it .
CaptainNo , somebody mentioned it to me that I should try it . Is it on Netflix or something ?
WilsonIt is on Netflix .
CaptainIt's a movie .
WilsonIt's an animated movie and it does , by appearances , look like AI Netflix slop . However , the songs slap and it's actually a pretty good story .
CaptainAnd the animation looks really cool . I've heard that the music in this is really good .
WilsonI've sent you TikToks with the music in it .
CaptainOh , okay , yeah , someone told me I should watch it , actually while I was on vacation .
WilsonI didn't really want to watch it . After I did I was like , okay , that was good , I'm glad I watched it did you watch Freaker Friday ?
Captainthat movie is so cute it's so cute .
WilsonI would highly recommend it's so cute . I would re-watch the first one though but yeah , maybe I'll have a double feature someday when the second one comes um . But yeah , maybe I'll have a double feature someday when the second one comes out on streaming okay yeah , all right , that's all I got are you jumping in here ?
Captainam I jumping in here ?
Wilsonwhat do you want to do ? I don't think we ever agreed he was uh driving the bus on this one okay , I'm gonna speeding along I'm gonna have you drive the bus .
CaptainI'll , I'll . I can get myself together for the next one okay , okay , all right .
WilsonWell , welcome to the 177th episode of the Red Rum podcast , where we review horror movies and one thriller movie while enjoying an adult beverage or two and I'm Captain and I'm Wilson , and this week we're reviewing the 2018 action thriller film the Commuter starring Liam Neeson .
CaptainNow to be fair , Vera and Patrick are in here , like we just talked about .
WilsonAnd Sam Neill .
CaptainSam Neill . Oh yeah , Wait , he's a person .
WilsonYeah , like Jurassic Park yeah yeah . Event Horizon . Yeah , yeah , wait , he's a person , yeah like jurassic park um , yeah , yeah .
CaptainEvent horizon yeah , um , even totem or whatever . The fuck bartholomew totem bartholomew who's that little boy that was at the beginning ?
Wilsona little boy . Oh , you're still talking about sam neill no , no , I'm just saying no yeah , the , the guy that I think played tom and baratheon , uh , was the son in this movie yeah , like , even like the kids in this movie are famous people , so that is true .
CaptainI mean , it's true , listen is it within the red rum categories ? Questionable , it's on the did we have ? A good time we did um I love it yeah , jay was too booked this week to get us , uh , getting us the sponsors , uh oh yeah , so no sponsors this week .
WilsonUm so this was directed by jean collet sarah um every time I glance that name , I I'm like Jussie Smollett , I mean like at a glance , like doesn't that just look whatever ? But anyway , he is known for House of Wax Orphan the Shallows , I think is that the one with the high school and the wait ? That's the Gallows .
CaptainI was going to say isn't the shallows . Is that the one with ? Oh no , that's the shark one . What's the one with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga ?
WilsonA Star is Born , the song called Shallows .
CaptainYes , no , that's a shark movie .
WilsonYeah , and then he's also worked with Liam Neeson a bunch on the Unknown Non-Stop Run All Night , the Commuter and also what ? Also Dwayne .
CaptainJohnson on blockbuster films like Jungle Cruise and Black Adam , and he did the Netflix movie Carry On that I watched and it was pretty good .
WilsonDid you watch that movie Carry On ? I watched and it was pretty good . Did you watch that ?
Captainmovie Carry .
WilsonOn . Yeah , no , I didn't watch Black Adam or Jungle Cruise .
CaptainOh , I watched Jungle Cruise . It's basically Jumanji .
WilsonWait , you put in here basically every movie he does is a hit . So I don't think Black Adam .
CaptainOkay , orphan House of Wax , the Commuter .
WilsonI mean , was House of Wax a hit ?
CaptainBasically every movie he does are like blockbuster movies .
WilsonOkay , so like they're generally terrible movies , but they get a lot of money , Did House of Wax have bad ratings when we did it ? I don't think it did well . Let me pop it open . Okay , that was open okay , that was episode .
CaptainThat was a while ago . That was episode like 137 that sounds right , am I ?
Wilsonam I checking that ?
Captainno , I can check , you're gonna bop open something , though where are you gonna bop open ?
Wilsonum house of wax . It kind of lost money . Uh , it was episode 119 oh uh , yeah that's that's fine . What does this guy look like ?
Captainoh , he looks mysterious . You see his face no , you put him in here , no no , I just looked at his wikipedia . It's a very mysterious picture .
WilsonOh , he did the woman in the . Oh , I didn't see that , but I don't think that did well either woman in the what the sorry , the yard oh yes , that movie had terrible reviews . I never watched it yeah , like it looked , like it would have been scary , but again a blumhouse movie and did not do well he looks like two people mixed together um but I can't tell who it is yeah yeah , I can't .
CaptainI don't know , my brains can't focus on , couldn't yeah , I couldn't tell you um , okay , that was liam neeson . Oh no , that was the director .
WilsonRight , right oh yeah , okay , so now we can go in the cast . Um . Yeah , so we got liam neeson um , as discussed . You'll know him from things of assorted several .
CaptainOh my gosh taken and star wars and schindler's list and batman begins .
WilsonHe just did naked gun um for some reason , when you said naked , naked gun , I heard top gun and I was like no , he didn't um he's dating pamela anderson I think I heard that wasn't real what I'm upset I think I like , uh , I feel like his son , or like pamela anderson's son was like yeah , that wasn't . They didn't okay , publicity .
CaptainPamela anderson told vanity fair that it is not a stunt , that is a rumor oh okay , wow , it's one surprise after another the ups and downs of hollywood oh man , okay , peppa anderson kind of , kind of still like gets it . You know what I mean ?
WilsonI mean she is literally getting it , but I mean yeah , but she looks really good and I think it's because she , like , I mean , she's had some face work done , but but it's not like a lot .
CaptainYeah , she , yeah , no , she takes care of herself .
WilsonThey need to update Liam Neeson's wiki because it still says he hasn't dated anyone since like a lady right after his wife died , and that he's passed all that .
CaptainWell , that was prior to meeting Bombshell Pam .
WilsonThat's true .
CaptainOkay .
WilsonMan . This man is 73 years old .
CaptainYou know his profile . I always am staring at it because it's such an interesting profile of his face . I don't know if I've ever like paid attention like the bridge of his nose comes out in such a way where I'm like , wow , people's faces don't really look like that not in a bad way , but but it's just a very distinct profile you never look later nice now you make me sound like I'm a crazy person
The Conjuring and Recent Movies
Captain.
WilsonWell , no , you might be brightest . I never looked at it and thought what an interesting profile .
CaptainThat's a profile .
WilsonYeah , we also have Vera Farmiga in this movie . Yeah , I mean , that's a profile .
CaptainI don't know His nose comes out in such a way .
WilsonAnd it's like kind of high .
CaptainYou were going to say kind of hot , go on , we are famiga uh , yeah , so I I love her um . She was in the movie joshua she's anyways such a b in this movie oh , this , yeah , um the orphan .
WilsonI don't remember her in there . Obviously she she's Lorraine Warren in the Conjuring movies , or like that whole universe . She played Norma Bates , norman Bates' mother , in Bates Motel .
CaptainI'm sorry , she's the older sister . What their names are ? Norma and Norman . Yeah , I mean you watch the show right's stuff .
WilsonShe's kind of weird I only watched like two episodes um , but it's good they've grant , they've been granted hatred from me with norma and norman well , that's okay , uh , and she's the older sister to taissa farmiga from um uh american horror story .
CaptainYeah , taissa . Taissa can get it too .
WilsonI don't know where she's at yeah , there was , um , there's a scene in the movie they do a flashback and I was like why didn't they use taissa ? And I was like oh right , well , they can't because she was in the nun . But I was like that's not a spoiler , but I won't say anything more , just in case , um , okay , uh , and then that patrick wilson .
CaptainSo again , like they're just in here , this was like this whole like 2010s was really big for patrick wilson you know , what's interesting is like , okay , they are both in this movie and they do not talk and yet , like two years later , they're like filming the conjuring together as husband and wife .
WilsonIt's like so weird didn't the conjuring come out in 2017 ? Am I wrong ?
CaptainI thought the first one was 2013 . Yeah , the first conjuring says 2013 , damn okay , that was like way , that was way longer than I thought okay yeah , so like probably two years later , they were like like they , they were like playing husband and wife and like , yeah , like you said , carried this franchise .
WilsonAnd I'm like isn't that so weird that they were on the same movie together ? Yeah , I mean , because I mean , okay , he was in these movies . He was in Insidious around the same time , and then he was also in the Watchmen . He's big in that , so yeah , so , so he plays a detective . We also have jonathan banks . Uh , mike from um mike ermantrout yep , uh , he just plays a guy on the train . Um , he's in . Better call saul the el camino movie .
CaptainWe know him yeah , he did some other stuff , but he's mostly known for the breaking bad stuff yeah , uh , then we have sam neill who plays the a police captain , so he's in sleeping dogs .
WilsonUh , you probably saw him in omen 3 um jurassic park . That's the really big one um event horizon has sam neill been to steel city con ?
Captainthat seems like a great still city con person .
WilsonUh , I don't know , maybe some year , but yeah , if I ever saw he was going to be like I'm going .
CaptainYou've been , you've been sending me some hits yeah , they just keep like pumping them out .
WilsonI'm sure some of them will call off .
CaptainYeah dude , but if x-file shows up , we , we they were flashing them . I don't know .
WilsonI'm like I would be so excited oh yeah okay , I feel like I don't know if I guess steel city con's big enough for that . I feel like they would go to galaxy con yeah , but probably in like la or you know west , yeah , yeah , um . And we have elizabeth mcgovern , uh , mostly known for downton abbey , um , I never watched that it's real . It was surprisingly good like .
CaptainI would like it , I could probably get sucked in . A lot of people got sucked in , so I probably get sucked in .
WilsonYeah , like period pieces like that generally don't really interest me , but after a couple episodes I was like how are we doing ?
Captainthis and I just I , I binged all of it and I'm gonna see that movie in theaters . Wait , wait , what ? How many seasons are there ? Uh five is that a lie ?
Wilsonis that ? Am I lying ?
Captainoh , I see here , because it says 2010 and 2015 there's oh , there's six seasons .
WilsonThey had two movies and now a third one is coming out in theaters are the movies .
CaptainWell , I guess you wouldn't know . Have you seen the other movies ? Yeah do they ? They all go inside the same story as it follows the same family , different stories , I guess okay you should watch it , do it I probably don't know if you want to yeah , at least give it a try .
WilsonUm , all right , then we have florence pew . This is like baby florence pew , I barely even recognized .
CaptainYeah I knew that she was gonna be in this because I did the this , I did our script , and then , when she came on screen , I looked at you and you had no reaction . I was like , oh , he must not realize .
WilsonYeah , but everyone knows her from Midsommar . She was in Little Women , she was in the Thunderbolts , that other movie with that thing about with Olivia Wilde I think the Don't Ray worry darling oh yeah , yeah , you're right with um harry styles or something yeah um she .
CaptainI like her role in thunderbolts . I like her character in the movie was surprisingly good .
WilsonI thought it was gonna be absolute garbage , but yeah I liked it .
CaptainUh , then we have I don't know who this is damson edris yes , he's like from snowfall and he was just in that new f1 snowfall . I didn't see f1 oh , you're trash snowfall damson he , he is so good in snowfall .
WilsonHe's the main character he was like barely in this movie .
CaptainOkay , but he is a famous person . He just co -led a movie , a blockbuster movie , with Brad Pitt .
WilsonWhat movie .
CaptainF1 . What's happening ?
WilsonOh wait , wow , Okay , okay , that's impressive .
CaptainHim and Brad Pitt were the co-leads for that movie . Wow , okay , anyway , anyway , he's really good in snowfall . I love him . He is um one of these people that are british but you would never know because their american accent's really good . Oh , they love to do that I know , when you hear him talk he's like oh governor yeah , I'm sure , sure he sounds just like that um , and you're like , wow anyway .
CaptainUm , there's a gazillion people in this movie and probably some of them have done other stuff , but um , yeah , those are the main people I picked up on the one of the police officers or fbi agents .
WilsonI was like , is that the guy from Alien Romulus ? But I think I decided it wasn't .
CaptainOh , Damson Idris's partner Garcia .
WilsonMaybe . Why don't I see his name here ?
CaptainCouldn't tell you .
WilsonI'm looking on Wikipedia and I don't see an Agent Garcia .
CaptainWell , that's definitely what they called him . Yeah , you're right .
WilsonOkay , hold on . I need to see who this is . Have you watched ?
Captainthe bootleg version , or something .
WilsonI mean it had all those other people in it , that's true .
CaptainDid I have anybody else to mention ? I don't think so . Um , like I said that , like there's so many people in the cast , is there any that his
Introduction to The Commuter
Captainfriend on the train , that guy's not a real person , like a big person , right ? What friend on the train the um , the guy that he was playing cards with oh , that he borrowed the cell phone . I don't know that is okay , yeah , which means he's not a real person um , yeah , I think .
WilsonOkay , that's it for the , that's it for the cast yeah , yeah so I'm bopping in the . The movie um movie starts off kind of interesting and I was a little confused for a second because it's like it's trying to give the idea of Liam Neeson's character is doing this very repetitive morning routine . So for the first couple minutes it's just flashes of similar scenes but doing the same thing , like waking up in the morning , making breakfast , wife and kid , but they're very abrupt cuts that it like I was confused first time it happened .
WilsonI was like did I accidentally rewind ?
Captainso I don't know um , yeah , no , I was confused too , but I I realized , yeah , I realized that's what's what it was . Um , but yeah , it's , it's trying to show he has like a mundane life , like he's , you know , I mean mundane , but like he's just a normal person . I think is what it's trying to show .
WilsonYeah .
CaptainLike he's talking to his wife their kid's going to college . Very quickly he found out that they have big money problems because he like lost everything in the 2008 crash . I was like too soon . Dude , yeah and crash . I was like too soon , dude .
WilsonYeah , and when he gets to work , basically his boss is like no-transcript and we're basically paycheck to paycheck and the guy's like sorry , he said we have two mortgages , how are you doing this ?
CaptainHe worked there for 10 years and the guy was like , yeah , I don't know , man , you're just not returning enough . He's selling life insurance . How much life insurance do you have to sell ? Don't you have to insure one life a month ? I mean , right , who are ?
Wilsonall these people coming in your office all the time asking to insure themselves I mean if the end of the movie is any sign like it might have been orchestrated . No , I mean like they might have .
CaptainOh , I thought you were gonna say life should be insured based on the end of the movie , sure , but um , yeah , no , definitely , definitely , probably orchestrated . Um , but yeah , he's um unhappy . He doesn't tell his wife about it when she calls him and then he goes drinking in a bar yeah , then he meets .
WilsonWe meet patrick wilson , who was his . We find out that liam neeson used to be a cop . Uh , like 10 years , whatever 10 years ago he was a cop and that was his partner for seven years , um , and then they're talking about this like they're referring to this police captain that also comes on the bar and you get the impression he's kind of skeevy . Um , and patrick wilson , he's like you know , you had my back for so many years .
CaptainYou know you should let other people take care of you basically yeah , because he tells him about all the troubles he has with his , with getting fired and stuff um and then we see the tv show the news report of some what they call him city planner yeah um , kill himself , like commit suicide off a building , but then there's like talks that it might be like some big conspiracy theory , um , and like you know , maybe it wasn't suicide and like I don't know , there's like an investigation into it and they even they do make a comment Liam Neeson and Patrick Wilson do make a comment about , like you know , it's always some dirty cops or the cops are becoming dirty and I don't know Liam Neeson was a good cop when he was a cop and like whatever .
WilsonYeah , so they basically leave the bar and the guy , and liam neeson , starts to head home on his you know , commute home on the train . Um , while he's getting on the train , somebody like steals his phone , um , and you know , the train departs dude watching that I'm like this demand is taking l after l like .
CaptainI do not like watching movies where there's like scene after scene of just like I don't know bad can't catch a break yeah , it's like lost his job , lost his phone yeah , um , but yeah , he gets on . Oh , they're doing bag checks too , but then , yeah , he gets on the train , and quickly . Vera , what's her name ? Vera Formiga is like staring at him and then like approaches him when there's a seat open next to him .
WilsonAnd she's like . She basically starts off with like oh , you know I'm very talkative , I can look at anyone in the room and kind of figure out what type of person they are . And she's like I can figure out what type of person you are and I have a hypothetical question for you . And she starts to explain hypothetically there's $25,000 in the bathroom . If you do one simple thing for me , which is find this person that has a bag , then you'll get another a hundred thousand dollars yeah , seventy five thousand a hundred .
WilsonOh , okay , yeah um , and he's like obviously super skeptical , and she's like well bye , and she gets off the train the questions that he's asking her .
CaptainThank god that they run . They . They seem like normal questions because sometimes in movies like this you're like this is so unrealistic . But no , his questions were actually a very realistic like basically what I was saying thinking in my head when she was talking . But , um , she does like she says something about how she like studies people's personalities and behaviors and like she talks about the myers-Briggs 17 or 16 personalities , but she says like this is really to find out what kind of person you are . And then , before she leaves , she says like this is you have the perfect set of skills for this as an ex-cop . But like they've never met , so he knows that she knows stuff about him that she shouldn't . Because he even says like how do , how would you know that ? But then , yeah , she just bops off the train . She says the person's nickname is Prynne , they have a bag and they have something in that bag that was stolen , doesn't belong to them .
WilsonAnd that's really all he's got for clues ?
CaptainYes , oh and where they're getting off . Yes , what stop ?
Wilsonthey're getting off , yeah , and I think he finds the . When he finds the money in the bathroom , it's like , obviously this is real , yeah , and he does decide that he doesn't want to do anything about it .
CaptainBut that doesn't go on long . No , because his wife's ring gets handed to him .
WilsonYeah , they're like so obviously they have his family . And then he tries to slip a note to Jonathan Banks's character to call the police . He gets off the train and then Vera calls him . She's like why did you do that ? Now we have to cover a track . So she's like , look out the window and you see somebody push jonathan banks in front of a bus .
CaptainAnd he does that was a crazy . I was not expecting that man to die so quickly like no , this movie like picks it up real quick yeah .
CaptainSo he was like , oh shit , they're not fucking around and he goes . Okay , let's find everybody with a clicker , with a ticket clicked , that is going to zone seven , since that's where , um , the stop is that they you know they said that person would get off that um , and he knows it has to be , uh , not a typical daily commuter that he talks to and runs into all the time . So , um , similar , familiar faces obviously not them . So he like goes through , he walks to the train and like tries to kind of assess who , um , yeah , who from the crowd could be the person that they're looking for .
WilsonMm . Um , so let's see it's . I think at some point he what happens next ?
Captainhe borrows that guy's phone to try to call his wife yeah , doesn't answer .
CaptainAnd then he does call uh his police friend , uh patrick wilson's character yeah to like go check on his , on his wife , um , so he's like waiting for a call back about that yeah , and he goes through and he like talks to a couple different people on the train that you know we've kind of been introduced to like some asshole from golden sacks and like , uh , some lady that's being weird on like texting on her phone constantly , um , florence pew , because you know she's playing like some teenager that has a bunch of fake IDs on her , so like we're seeing these scenes , but nothing's getting .
CaptainReally nothing seems obviously like suspicious um , until Liam Neeson finds um a guy with a snake tattoo that is carrying a bag and acting kind of weird . Um , and he approaches him . I think this guy with a snake tattoo actually like he's the first attacker and he goes why are you following me ? What do you know ? And then they get into like this big fist fight , um , oh , and at some
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Captainpoint , when he's on the phone , when liam nason's on the phone with vera formiga , um , he tells her like you need to put tracker on the bag . So during that fist fight he does get a tracker on the bag . So during that fist fight , he does get a tracker on that bag of that guy with the snake tattoo .
WilsonAnd then Liam Neeson eventually goes back to try to find that guy because he's like you know , I actually need to protect him because I don't want him to die .
CaptainOh , is that why he went back ?
WilsonI think so . I think this is where he finds out like the intent is to kill the person that he tags which he wasn't really aware of , but he can't find him . But eventually here's a phone ringing in the floor and he , like , lifts up a floor plate . It was an empty car and there's a dead body .
CaptainIt's the guy , dude . It was like not even five minutes have gone by that this man was tagged and then murdered .
WilsonYeah , and then Vera calls and she was like you , tagged the wrong person and you killed him . Yeah . Oh now the police are going to board and you need to .
CaptainHe's an FBI agent , by the way .
WilsonOh yeah , the guy he tagged yeah .
CaptainYeah , oh yeah . So the police aren't going to get on the train because one of the train conductors reported Liam Neeson himself as a suspicious activity , because he's being really fucking weird . Yeah , so they reported him and they were supposed to stop the train at the next stop and arrest Liam Neeson which is why there's all these cops here but he's not allowed to leave the train .
WilsonLike according to the rules , it's like you can't leave the train . You got to find this person , um , or your family dies , yeah . So he ends up having to hide next to the body under the train while the police board . So he escaped , or like he doesn't get caught . But then , like the train starts moving and he has to like escape under the train starts moving and he has to like escape under the train before it is moving too fast , jump back on the train and sneaks back in .
CaptainSo there he's fine . Yeah , it's a little extra .
WilsonYeah , and then Vera calls and she's like , oh , I'm impressed .
CaptainWhat are you doing after this ? I just think it's so gross that he had to hide next to a dead body . That's so nasty .
WilsonYeah , oh , but during this part he does lose all the $25,000 .
CaptainOh my God , that was one of the hardest things to watch . His bag snags and the first $25,000 fell out of the bag . I'm like Jesus Christ man , just go , just get out of the bag . I'm like jesus christ man , man , just just go , just get out of here yeah , so um , after that he does sabotage the train's air conditioning .
CaptainThat and that forces all the um the passengers to go to the one car that has working air conditioning and this will make it easier for him to find , you know , the passenger yes , I think he narrows it down to like five people or four people in that car and he's not supposed to tell anybody about what Vera told him . But he just starts asking the kind of the car like openly , like hey , hypothetically , if this happened , and he just basically repeats what Vera told him . You know , like they asked like would you ? He asked like would you do it , would you take the money ? And then they you know the guy , one guy was like hell , yeah , I would . And then he was like then they asked him , they were asking him like would you take the money ? And he starts laughing , he goes I already did . And he kind of just like takes control of the that car to try to figure out , um , who's the who's prin ?
Wilsonyeah . So he finds someone that , like they are trying to lead us to believe might be him , which is this guy that has a guitar case . So they go to a different car and we find out the guy in the guitar guitar case . He's actually the assassin on the train that is supposed to kill prin .
CaptainWhen they're found , yeah , when it's identified who prin is um , and then they have this ridiculous fight where liam neeson is hitting him with a guitar . So you hear like the wow when he's yeah , something about it is so cartoony , like I don't know if it's supposed to be comedic , but it's very like I don't know . Some of the fighting in this is very kind of like I yeah , it can't be almost um .
WilsonI don't know if that's just 2010 or supposed to be yeah , I don't know , I mean you said it was like basically final destination at a certain point , like yeah , it's just like all the bad , terrible , catastrophic things that go wrong . Uh , but anyway , he throws the guitar guy out a window yeah , underneath another train that was passing yeah , yep . So he goes back to the other car . They're like where'd he go ?
Captainand he's like , oh , he got off I love that line , um , and then the train . He tells everybody , he tells the conductor they have to stop the train because if they get off at the next stop somebody's going to die . So , of course , when they hit the brakes , though , part of the train explodes and it's already been hot-wired , whatever to not the brakes not to work . The conductor's dead , dead , of course . And uh , and there's , like this , another crazy action sequence of liam neeson and the can and one of the train conductors , like hopping back and forth from car to car , taking the , getting the last car unhooked , yeah , which ?
Wilsonbasically like barely works in the end , like the train's already on the curve .
CaptainI don't know what difference it's going to make at this point and it and didn't really make much it didn't really make much of a difference I mean , yeah , the train , they said it was going like 70 miles an hour on a curve , so like they're not , like they unhook the back of the like you know , the car they're on , so it's not immediately moving or it's not continuously moving 70 miles an hour , but , um , it still is moving that fast for a little bit yeah , so it .
WilsonIt basically derails , but they're like a little safer and then liam has . So everyone in the car kind of knows the situation .
CaptainBut he has them all like put paper over the windows , hold on before . Is that when he oh no , no , no , no , wait , no . When does he have a scene with prim where he talks to the girl ?
WilsonI think it's right . I think it's . Is it right before the train derails ? Oh yeah , well , we should say that oh yeah , so he does identify the actual print and it's like this I don't know late teens , early 20s girl that it was her cousin and she witnessed his like .
CaptainSorry the news story in the beginning that the city planner yeah , that was her cousin .
CaptainAnd she said he didn't commit suicide . Two guys came in looking for him and they didn't know that she was there and like they basically beat him up and killed him . And then she tells him , tells I think leon weeson says why didn't you go to the cops ? And she said it was cops that killed him . Which was like . So then everybody in the car hears this , like it's really quiet , it's a pin drop . So I think everybody's a little bit on board that like not to chose the cops because you know they're gonna be after her obviously yeah , and she has the evidence on a hard drive .
CaptainOh yeah , the stolen item was a hard drive that would have information on there .
WilsonYeah , so whenever the train crashes they put newspaper all over the windows so if snipers come they can't immediately shoot them .
CaptainThey were quick with it . Liam Neeson was like get paper on the windows now and they were like why ? And he was like get paper on the windows now ? And they were like why ? And he was like do it . And they're they , just everyone did it . It was kind of crazy that ex-cop stuff .
WilsonYeah , so , um , yeah . So all the police come . We see sam neill's police captainess show up and then , um , his uh , patrick wilson's character also shows up and he comes up to the train trying to like negotiate , um . So they end up saying like you know , let go some , let go of some hostages . A ton of people came out and they'll trade . So patrick wilson went in the train car um . So the cops have some sort of like .
WilsonI guess it's thermal vision I don't know what that was like just patrick wilson's character is blue but everyone else is yellow they said he was hot , like he was wired with something , I think I thought they just meant he was hot , like he had a mic on him , like yeah he had like a thing on his shoulder .
CaptainI don't know what the fuck that thermal vision was , where it has the outline of his whole person .
WilsonThey don't even know yeah , that was some like pseudo technology there or something , but um , so they're basically talking in there and liam neeson comes to the conclusion like patrick wilson is the bad guy . He ratted him out now wilson .
CaptainWhat did I say in the notes early in the movie ? I said patrick wilson is sus , did I not ?
Wilsonyou did say it . I do remember you putting sus in there .
CaptainHe was sus , because the very first phone call he makes to him when he wants to report this weirdness , when he tries to call his wife and then he calls Patrick , was like I don't know . Patrick was like , not , I don't know , he was being weird on the phone . He wasn't like oh my God , he was just like oh okay , we'll get some cops to your house .
WilsonI don't know . Yeah , so it was a little sus um . And then they have like a . You know , patrick basically admits to it . He's like I have a family too , they're gonna get you . And then he goes and tries to kill prin . But he does like pause for a second once he notices that pinrynne is like a young girl . But then he's like I'm just going to kill her anyway .
CaptainNo , she just says I'm Prynne and then like four other people stand up .
WilsonOh well , that yeah they go .
CaptainNo , I'm Prynne and I'm like this is so . Disney , I don't know what's happening here . You know everyone's P , but my thing is okay . Patrick Wilson is killing a witness to a crime , right ? Why the fuck would he leave witnesses to this crime Like ? Wouldn't he kill everybody on that train ? He's actively killing a witness . These are more witnesses to him killing another witness .
WilsonHe probably would have to .
CaptainYeah , like I don't know what the I don't know why . There was a thought process . I don't know . That would be my thought if I was a hostage on there . I'm like we're all dead . If he's kids to kill , it's all of us .
WilsonYeah , well , he's a dummy anyway . So , yeah , anyway , he ends up dying because during the struggle , like Liam Neeson fighting . Yeah , Liam Neeson takes the scanny , the thing that he was wearing . That makes him look like the good guy . So when the police outside have a clear shot , I don't know how they didn't have that already .
CaptainI know they were like all right , let's turn the vision on , yeah .
WilsonThey shoot Patrick Wilson . They don't know it's him , he's dead Police captain or whatever . Comes in and he's like , yeah , we suspected there was some foul play in the department and your family's safe .
CaptainYeah , and the F ? No , the FBI comes in cause . They , they want to grab print ? Yeah , they . But they tell him like , yeah , we arrested three guys outside your house , your family's good , um , and they were about to die , um , but the closure of this movie , where like they're wrapping it up and everybody's fucking chuckling and hee-hawing and I was like this is so unrealistic , like the dialogue at the end of the movie is so subpar .
CaptainI don't know they wrapped it up too nicely it was like literally like he's like the old champ , I don't know it was so . Oh , I was like literally like he's like ha , you old champ . I don't know it was so . Ugh , I was like why am I watching some like I don't know , like what , are those really corny ?
WilsonLike a Hallmark movie .
CaptainNo , but like what ? Is it CBS or not CBS ? What is like the little stupid little drama sitcoms like telenovoila type ?
Wilsonlike soaps , soap operas not so bad .
WilsonI don't
Train Action and Suspense
Wilsonknow what abc , abc like , abc family shows like oh , oh okay it was like yeah , like that yeah yeah , because like this movie felt like the type that like , oh , he'd like kind of win at the end , but then there'd be the twist of like oh , but the whole department's bad , or I don't know yeah , for a second I thought this whole thing was like a game , because vera vera formiga says the point of what we're doing is I want to find out what type of person you are .
CaptainSo I thought like there might be this like big reveal where it was like none of what she told you was real , but she just wanted to see what you would do , like some weird psychological torment , um , but it wasn't that that's not maybe in some version of the script it was this feels like it got rewrites , but I don't know um , yeah , and then the very last scene is even more of a wrap-up with him . Uh , getting vera train , oh he gets her too .
WilsonYeah , yep , he finds her and then he's like she's like what do you expect to do ? And he pulls out his badge because he's a police officer again .
CaptainWhich I don't understand . That's not a big gotcha , considering she already had police cops under her , like on her paycheck .
WilsonYeah .
CaptainWhat do you call that Payroll ?
WilsonPayroll .
CaptainPayroll yeah .
WilsonSomething .
CaptainSo like that's not a really big gotcha . Maybe she's just saying that he can't be bought , but he was already bought once , I don't know . It's confusing , it's not ideal .
WilsonYeah , so that's a good segue into what would you rate it .
CaptainHmm , the Rotten Tomatoes is a 55 and a 40 . I mean , I actually like the movie is thriller , like I do . I was thrilled .
WilsonYeah , we were both locked in .
CaptainLike I was thrilled . The thrill is there . I just really don't like how they like about a christmas bow on the end of a movie . Um , um , yeah , I'd say this is like a three and a half on letterbox . So , uh , maybe like a three , a three on letter , yeah , so like , maybe like a 60. , 60 .
WilsonOkay , I gave it two and a half on Letterboxd . And I gave it a 45 .
CaptainOh wow , it was too thrilled to give it a bad score for me .
WilsonI had a good time . I just don't think it was a great movie .
CaptainWhat was this called the Commuter ? Let me put this on Letterboxd it really does sound like a great movie . Um , what was this called the commuter ?
Wilsonlet me put this on letterboxd um it really does sound like um uh . Jason statham movie jason statham .
CaptainYou know me , mostly known for my , my impressions .
WilsonI was taking a drink .
CaptainI have notoriously bad impressions .
WilsonI thought , it was good . I mean , I knew what you were trying to do .
CaptainOkay , what do you got here for the other num-nums ?
WilsonOther num-nums .
CaptainThe budget was $30 million and the box office was 119 , so it did very well . I remember when this movie was being advertised and coming out in theaters . I do remember that it was pretty . I don't remember that at all it was pretty big advertised I mean I'm surprised they didn't make a sequel of how well it did well , they kind of caught ver Vera Farmiga at the end there , so I don't think they were going to .
WilsonThey could have left that open , though , but there was so much room to leave that open for her next stunt .
CaptainYeah , I don't think there's some fake Commuter 2 stuff online , but it's not real's not real um yeah , naturally , uh hot goss oh yeah , hit me with that goose hot goose .
WilsonUm , all right . Well , the big one is um uh , neeson said that he was on a talk show and no , none of the scenes were filmed on board an actual train I guess that doesn't really surprise me . It's not like they film plane scenes on actual planes , but , um , they were all shot on sound , sound stage with just a mock-up , um , you know , only dressed up a little bit , and then the scenery was added in post-production because of green screens okay , so I guess it's not , it's not that much hot goss .
CaptainIt doesn't look bad .
WilsonNo , it doesn't .
CaptainEven the CGI of the train derailment didn't look bad .
WilsonI didn't love it , but I guess it could have been worse . It could have been two blocks falling over .
CaptainIt could have been way worse . I was surprised for 15 years ago where , where we were , that's wait , this is a 2018 movie no wait , this city I think this is a 2010 . Oh no , this is no . The other one is 2010 . Wait , this is 2018 . Oh , I'm , oh , I , I like I'm way the fucked off . Okay , sorry , wait so this movie came out after the first Conjuring .
WilsonYes , like five years after .
CaptainOh yeah , yeah , I thought it was before , no , no , no , it's after . So Patrick and Vera were already a couple Like balls deep in .
WilsonConjuring .
CaptainI thought you were going to say in each other , I mean well . In the movie in the universe .
WilsonYeah , yeah , next shot Goss , Even though she got prominent second billing . Vera is like only in there for six minutes , but she was huge at the time . I mean she's still pretty big , but you know , like very conjuring around that time period um another one oh , myers-briggs yeah , the 16 personalities that her character refers to when she strikes up the initial conversation on the train are myers-briggs , and we just did that test before we started this episode I'm an esfj and I'm an isfJ and I'm an ISFJ .
WilsonShocking , shocking . All right , another one Towards the beginning of the film , when Liam Neeson's character is walking through Grand Central Terminal , there is a poster for Paddington 2 .
CaptainOh , best movie , Best movie in the books .
WilsonI think it's neat that it shared a US release date with the Commuter , which is January 12th .
CaptainOh wow , that's funny .
WilsonThis one's , I guess , just interesting . This is the second movie to have Vera and an incident on a commuter train .
CaptainThe other one was Source Code . Have you seen that movie ? I might have .
WilsonOh , this is a Jake Gyllenhaal . I kind of think I did , but I might be confusing it with . I feel like either Bradley Cooper or Justin Timberlake was in a movie with something about codes on your arm , Wait what . I think it's called Limitless .
CaptainOh , okay , I think Brad Pitt .
WilsonNo , nope , it was Bradley Cooper , it looks like .
CaptainSource code says Jake Gyllenhaal is an army officer who's sent into an eight-minute virtual recreation of a real-life train explosion and tasked with identifying the terrorist . You know that sounds .
WilsonI feel like I've seen this , because that sounds really familiar I'm looking at a clip of the trailer and I definitely have not seen this um , but now I'm kind of intrigued . Let me see how this is .
CaptainEither I've seen that movie or maybe really similar oh , the movie did pretty well out of the list . That's so funny . Um , I you know this was a good movie , but it was , yeah , the cusping around , redrum . I was like I probably shouldn't shouldn't have kept this on the line that's fine .
WilsonEveryone had a good time . Um , all right , I think that was it for the hot goss . Did you have any others that I missed that you wanted to share ?
Captainoh , um , sorry , I'm putting this on my watch list , um , I don't think so um yeah , I don't think so , cause the other ones are kinda stupid yeah , I mean have you ever read the scarlet letter . Apparently , prynn is a character are kind of stupid .
WilsonYeah , I mean , have you ever read the Scarlet Letter ? Apparently , prynne is a character I read it in high school Hester Prynne .
CaptainOh , hester , wow , hester is quite a name . Yeah , no , that's basically it . Yeah , what about your Rag ? I actually wrote it down this time . Oh , I wrote it . Yeah , what about your rag ?
WilsonI actually wrote it down this time .
CaptainOh , I wrote it down too . It better not be mine .
WilsonI don't know , it probably isn't . I just thought it was interesting that , like Liam Neeson got full-on blast in the face with pepper spray and he just like wasn't , he like wiped his eyes once and he was fine .
CaptainYeah , that was crazy . That was crazy from somebody that has been pepper sprayed .
WilsonThat was crazy oh , that's right , you were yeah , and it is not a you even got secondhand pepper sprayed and it like burned your eyes out it burned my eyes out .
CaptainIt burned the back of my legs out . Um , it's not fun .
WilsonI like burned your legs yeah , because I went .
CaptainI got in the shower after because I was just like I have to get this off my skin and it all , the oil all dripped down to my legs and then like it was really hard to sleep that night because my calves were like on fire , because all the oil like dripped down them wow , yeah , that sucks yeah , yep . Um , yeah , it's a razor glass that sucks . Yeah , yep , what was ?
Wilsonyour wrist glass .
CaptainOh , mine was the little line you said earlier where we're watching this crazy fight with a guitar and he's like wham , wham , he's hitting this guy and he I don't know . It's a really chaotic , campy fight . And then he yeets him out the window and when he gets back in the car with everybody else he goes hey , mike , what happened to the guy with the guitar ? Back on the in
Final Showdown and Evaluation
Captainthe car with everybody else , he goes hey , mike , what happened to the guy with the guitar ? And he just says he got off . And the line , the line just made me laugh because liam neeson is like over . At this point he's like fuck everything , I'm done with this . This is all ridiculous , like I . Like he's just over . Like the , the l after l , like so it's just funny . He's like at the beginning of the movie he's like not trying to kill anybody . Right the fact that he had to kill somebody . He's just like you know .
WilsonOh yeah . So I mean I'm glad he was in this movie , but I'm also kind of surprised they put him like . This is a super physical role and this character looks like he is aging . He looks like an old man by the end of the film and he is out here getting stabbed and throwing people out windows .
CaptainThey're like shivving him . The stabbing scenes , honestly , were kind of rough to watch . I was turning my face away . But , yeah , I mean Liam Neeson's always done roles like that . Did you see the Naked Gun ?
WilsonI did . Yeah , what did you think it was good ? It was good . Yeah , I think I liked the original more , but that's not yeah whatever , but Same . Yeah , it was good .
CaptainBut yeah , that's the first time I've seen him do a role . That was like super , super comedy . That whole montage , when they were at the cabin with the snowman . Oh my god , my favorite thing for the entire movie . Yeah , that was pretty good um yeah , no , it's a good movie , but yeah , I think I like the original better . Um , oh , fun fact , just talking about naked gun , really quick . Um , I was looking up . Um , what's that guy's name , jonathan banks , that plays mike ermantrout ? Yeah um and he was in airplane like one of those other , like funny movies from the 70s or something .
CaptainYeah , and I know I've seen airplane , but I don't remember his role in there and I just was like oh , that's weird , like I only know him as a hitman .
CaptainSo um , I just looked it up and I remember that character sort of , but I would not , I mean I never would have I mean , I think he probably has hair in that movie he does , he does , but he also looks considerably younger um , yeah , uh , yeah , I I think , at the end of the day , if you're looking for a thriller , this is a good thriller I would recommend . Um , just you know , don't be looking for a great ending .
WilsonYeah , it was fine , the ending was okay .
CaptainYeah .
WilsonBut yeah , Yep , yep , yep .
CaptainNext week . Oh , we're doing a gem . It's called Growth from 2010 . It was not our first choice , because the movie I wanted to watch with Adrian Brody somehow is not streamable , which is very annoying , but we did this one instead .
WilsonYeah , yeah , it's something . I don't think it'll be a very long episode .
CaptainNo , there's , it's something . Okay , what do you ? You got any advice for me .
WilsonDo I have any advice for you ?
CaptainYou know there is some Work from home . Okay , that's good Work from home .