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There's Something in the Barn
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Welcome to our holiday episode, which marks the end of the season! Captain Wilson will return in 2026.
This week, Jay is back to cover the 2023 Norwegian comedy horror film, "There's Something in the Barn"! Directed by Magnus Martens, it stars Martin Starr, Amrita Acharia, and Kiran Shah.
Want to know what's in the barn? Grab some hot chocolate and sit back and relax.
The film discussion begins around 31:24.
How's it going?
Wilson:It's going pretty well. We're uh we're here in person.
Captain:Oh wow, we are here in person. Who knew?
Wilson:I can see you from across the table.
Captain:I see we have some intro things here, but I feel like these intro things might want to be discussed with all of the attendees.
Wilson:All of the oh, so do we have special guests for the curve?
Captain:I mean, and I mean we could have them sit. Or we could reveal the curtain.
Wilson:Pop them in curtain number one.
Jay:This curtain is kind of hard to move. Alright, I'm out of the curtain now.
Captain:Oh, you got stuck in there? Yeah, I got stuck in there.
Jay:It's me.
Captain:Yes.
Jay:It's me, Jay.
Wilson:Um mystery voice, you just don't say the entire time.
Jay:Disembodied voice just floating along.
Captain:Okay. Um, well, Wilson, did you want to um I see you put some stuff in here?
Wilson:Uh yeah. I mean, I know um did we talk about it last time? I feel like we forgot maybe Welcome to Dairy.
Captain:Yeah, it's really good.
Wilson:It's it's wonderful.
Captain:Um it's really they're really getting into it with the clown, and I love that.
Wilson:Yeah. I was like, I wasn't sure how long it would take to get Bill Skarsgard to actually show up.
Captain:Okay, that is Bill though.
Wilson:Yeah. Okay, I would. And he's also he is an executive producer on the show. Like he's been in the credits as like executive producer. Uh but yeah. His reveal what do you think of his reveal? Like that episode.
Captain:The very the one in the graveyard, or you mean like actually saw like Pennywise. Oh, it's scripy. He's his like um Jaguar or cougar running that he's doing towards the kids.
Wilson:Did you believe that like that kid was really alive?
Captain:I thought it really was him, but as as he goes down there and he's acting really weird, yeah. I think he I I guess I wasn't expecting him to turn because I don't know, I just wasn't expecting it, but it was really good reveal.
Jay:I I did think it was suspicious that he was trying to get them all to the ball.
Captain:Yeah, but he was so rel no, he was so reluctant to go down.
Jay:Yeah, but like I felt like you know, it seemed very, very for me if that was the conclusion that was reached by the group. I was like, oh, that's not good. So I mean they blamed that.
Wilson:Well, you're smarter than me because I did not see that coming. I mean, like the in the 30 seconds leading up to the reveal, I was like, okay. But yeah, the the whole earlier part of the episode, I I would I did not see that coming.
Jay:Yeah. The um it's it's a good show. The uh the reveal for Pennywise is good too.
Captain:Yeah, uh my favorite part, I think, uh it might be that. I st I still really like that scene in the beginning of them in the movie theater and everything goes to chaos. Oh, yeah.
Jay:I still wish I didn't see a spoiler on that. Oh, I had no idea what was coming. So that was really shocking. Uh that that first that was the first episode, right? Yeah. Yeah, that was shocking. I was like, wait, what? Yeah. So yeah, they did a good job with that. I um the special effects are crazy.
Captain:Oh, yeah. I wonder how expensive that show is.
Jay:Oh, those kid actors are probably pretty cheap. Well, yeah, they well, they make up for it with all of the like every episode there's some show.
Captain:Is anybody in that show famous besides Bill Skarsgard? Skarskard.
Wilson:Who was the um the dad, I think. Uh the major? I think he's he's in things, but not like A-list.
Captain:Oh, wait, Dexter's dad's in there.
Wilson:Oh, yeah, James from R. Yeah, but he's not.
Captain:His name's James? I had no idea.
Jay:You didn't know his name?
Captain:No, he's Dexter's dad. He loves Dexter's Daniel. He's Dexter's dad. Okay.
Jay:Jimmy. It's weird to hear him speak and not hear the sentence in with Dexter's.
Captain:I know. I I yeah, we say that when we watch it. It's like, where's like a I'm disappointed, Dexter?
Wilson:Yeah, I'm expecting like a lecturing tone. Yeah.
Captain:And he's kind of like a little sussy, a little, you know, sneaky here and there.
Wilson:Yeah. Yeah.
Captain:Um, I really do like the show. It's pretty good.
Wilson:And the characters are all pretty good. No, they're pretty good, yeah.
Captain:Yeah. Yeah, I'm not mad at any of them. Like, you know, like takes me out of the show, it's so bad.
Jay:So they also set up stuff from like Doctor Sleep, which I was like, made me want to rewatch that movie because I love that movie.
Captain:Top four.
Jay:Uh no, it's a good movie, but I just I don't know why I didn't see that coming. It's obvious when they reveal it, but it's like, oh, I s I didn't I I didn't even think about that.
Wilson:I wonder how confusing that was for people that like either didn't read the book or didn't see the movie of like what's so special about this box that Pennywise like wants to open.
Jay:Yes, I could see that for sure.
Captain:I mean, but he does explain it in the next episode, but still, like I like the um the Pennywise history that they give us.
Wilson:Yes, that's and the 13 columns and stuff. I think that's like one of my favorite parts about this show is that they're giving us like the lore behind Pennywise.
Captain:Did you read that book and it says does that say that stuff in there or no?
Wilson:Um no, like I did read the book and it touches on each of the time periods. Like I know what's basically gonna happen for the most part in the next episode, but you don't like they're they're adding more to the story that's not covered in the world.
Captain:They don't talk about the 13 columns and the security of the forest and all that stuff.
Wilson:I don't think there was anything about like breaking off a piece of the thing.
Captain:I I like I like that they're adding that then. It's nice to get that background, and I'm not mad about how they do it, so.
Jay:Um, what did you think of the reveal that the woman's been in on it the whole time? Ooh, uh Bob Gray's. I didn't do that at all. I was just I thought she was a random psychologist.
Captain:Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's kinda random.
Jay:Yeah, it it really was, but I wasn't I I didn't hate the twist. I I thought um because it's not she's not in a no-one, you know, she's she's related to that she's in a romantic relationship with one of the act the characters that is like being hunted.
Captain:Yeah, but like I still don't understand. So like she loves the clown.
Wilson:Like, what's the I think the idea is that Pennywise, like, her dad was Pennywise the clown, right? But it like I guess killed him or whatever, took over that persona and it's a good one.
Captain:Yeah, and she just misses psychotically thinks it's her dad or misses him. Okay.
Wilson:That was a fun scene too, where she like called him papa or whatever, and Pennywise was like, uh but I did see, I don't know if you saw this online, and I didn't make this connection, but the internet of course did that her character is the old lady in at chapter two that Beverly goes to visit. Oh but it's really Pennywise and in like a suit or whatever.
Jay:Oh, yeah. Do you remember that? It's Mrs. Kirsch.
Wilson:Yeah. Whoa.
Jay:Whoa. So does she well, I guess we'll find out what happens to her in this series, but I guess she makes it out if she's at least impersonated in it chapter two. Yeah. Maybe not. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I don't know.
Captain:Yeah, no, really good show. Uh I is do we have what two or three episodes left or something?
Wilson:I I feel like there's like eight and what was that, episode six that just aired last year?
Captain:Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, yeah.
Jay:Yeah, there's like one or two left, I think. Okay.
Wilson:I mean, it is getting to like it does feel like we're getting very close to like a climate dick. So I don't know if they've announced it yet or not, or if we know, but like any future seasons. Like, are they gonna skip to different like another 20 seconds or because like I don't it wouldn't make sense, I guess, if they stuck with these kids.
Captain:Uh-uh.
Wilson:It wouldn't, yeah.
Jay:Well, I mean, it could be follow so like the first episode kind of follows the same formula that they were it movie does where like you have a character whose POV you're following, and then at the end of their little c story arc they die. They do that in the first episode, so I wonder if they'll do something similar with the season, whereas the second season is like the kid's just older and they're return to dairy.
Captain:The plan, this is the plan. Okay, and it hasn't been officially renewed yet, but the first season is supposed to be covering Pennywise's era in 1962. The second season's gonna go even further back, 1935. Oh the third season's gonna go even further back, 1908.
Wilson:Okay. Oh wow.
Captain:Yeah, so actually that is the initial plan was three seasons where they keep going back every 27 years. Because we've already seen forward with the movies.
Jay:A bit of uh Fear Street vibe, right? Because of Fear Street. Oh, I love that.
Captain:That's true.
Jay:That was a really good point.
Captain:They haven't officially done a season two renewal.
Wilson:I feel like they're gonna, I mean, I guess we'll see how the penale goes, but um what's the viewership like uh I mean I feel like it's good. They um they tease it in the theme song, but there is uh in the past, it's covered in the book, but I I'm really excited to if they cover it. But in the theme song, you see like an exploding factory.
Captain:The new song is so creepy. It's so creepy.
Wilson:I'm I hope it gets renewed because I'd like to see I'll watch like as much as they put out.
Jay:Opening scenes from episode one of this TV show are like unhinged. It's like the kids getting picked up by the family, and they're just saying increasingly crazier and crazier things, and I'm like, what is happening? And like I was like, oh wow. So it really sets the the the stage for the rest of the show. Like, oh, this is what we're doing.
Captain:Oh, it's like okay, we're just starting at 100 off the off the premiere of it Welcome to Dairy on HBO attracted 5.7 million viewers across the platforms in the first three days. That made it the third highest premiere ever in the middle.
Jay:So it's getting renewed then 100%.
Captain:Should, yeah. I mean it's around an 80% on Mountain Tanas right now.
Wilson:That's pretty good. The only question is now with this Netflix merger, like now. Oh my god.
Captain:Fuck some stuff up. Dumpster fire. Yeah.
Jay:We'll see. I mean. What a time. I saw Paramount might be putting in a rival bid that they said is technically supposed to be higher, so I don't know.
Captain:Is that better?
Jay:Probably not. You can't basically if any of these if the if any of these mergers happen, you're gonna end up with like only three streaming companies, really. Yeah.
Captain:Like Apple TV, Disney, and then they're all gonna eventually combine together and it'll be c it'll be uh uh everything's just Disney Plus. It'll be um cable again. Yeah, it'll just be another Disney Flicks, yeah. Just one one streaming and it's c and it's essentially cable at the time.
Jay:Yeah, but the difference here is that they own the movie studios, so yeah, that's right. It's not just TV studios, like and they've already just showed a disposition towards not liking releasing things in theaters, so it's like oh.
Wilson:Yeah, so that's why like I have if it's if a company's gonna buy it, I just like can we not do Netflix? Yeah, just yeah.
Captain:Speaking of Hollywood, sorry. We went to Steel Citicon today.
Wilson:Oh yeah, it was very fun. You got you got a pretty cool picture. I met a pretty cool person.
Captain:Yeah, I met the sir.
Wilson:I don't think he's not knighted, yeah.
Captain:In my head he is. Um Robert Patrick, so d aka Agent Dogget from X-Files.
Jay:And Terminator 2. Yeah.
Captain:Okay. And Peacemaker.
Jay:Yeah, I think he's the blue dragon in Peacemaker or the white dragon.
Captain:And he's in Sopranos, right?
Jay:Yeah, he's in a few episodes of Sopranos.
Captain:Um, but yeah, I mean, he's I mean, he's Agent Dogget. But oh my gosh, it was really nice meeting him. And I wore my X-Files shirt and I had my alien uh abduction earrings on.
Wilson:Yeah, he said he called you to like, oh, you're an X-Files girl.
Captain:No, no, he said you're the X-Files girl.
Jay:Oh, the X-File. Okay.
Captain:You're the X-Files girl.
Jay:I guess he expects one or two per like con he goes to.
Wilson:You but how I don't understand.
Captain:One or two.
Wilson:How will you be like the only like there have to be other X-Files people?
Jay:I didn't see any other people with X-Files stuff on their line.
Captain:Which is crazy.
Wilson:It is crazy.
Captain:It's like the best show ever.
Jay:I mean pick back up when it gets reboot. Potentially.
Captain:Oh, it would be nice to see him in yeah, if if X-Files gets rebooted the way Ryan Kugler, right?
Jay:Yeah, Ryan Kugler's supposed to be.
Captain:Yeah, they probably would bring Scully or Dog it back or or even uh Reyes.
Jay:Probably anyone they can get.
Captain:Yeah, I don't think DeCovny would come.
Jay:Really? He's like dumb with X-Files entirely.
Captain:Um he's just um really about like self uh growth.
Wilson:I don't know. I kind of feel like if the pay is right and Jillian Anderson's like, come on, let's do it.
Captain:Yeah, but I don't think him and Julian Anderson are betty buddy buddy like that.
Jay:Who do who's who's who's uh does anyone know who's gonna be rebooting it, like the company? So I feel like if Apple TV cuts you a fat check, you are doing it.
Captain:This is very loose plans. They're very loose. So I I don't think there's full, you know.
Wilson:I think they've I think Gillian and David have like resolved their cookies though. Like Did you listen to that podcast?
Captain:No, I didn't. I I don't no no, I'm not saying that they hate each other. I'm just saying I don't think they're like chit-chat, you know, they're not on FaceTime. They're not like I don't think she'd be like, come on, man.
Wilson:Money money curses a lot of problems. Well, uh sorry, I mean like do you believe that like they had like they actually had a fling during the show? I don't think so. People really think they like with all the tension, there was like so much tension.
Captain:They there was a lot of sexual like they have connection or or chemistry, but I don't think so.
Wilson:How long did the show run? It was like ten seasons. They left well, he left after season seven or like during season seven, and then on Scully was like a guest star for a couple seasons.
Captain:There's that famous magazine cover that I think really um like fueled the flame. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Jay:I feel like it's hard to think that they at least in my mind, that long, I feel like on set, unless they really didn't like each other for most of it, then maybe not.
Captain:But if they this Rolling Stones cover, it's like famous and it like really fueled the flame. I think I think this is when X Files was huge.
Wilson:I think they had a raisin cover. You think they really have a c I think that I think they slept together at least once.
Captain:Oh my god, Wilson!
Jay:The thing in Hollywood, like how many couples do you know that like met on set and they play love interests or were like close characters in a show? Yeah, like Dexter um uh Dexter's wife. Oh yeah, Jennifer Carpenter, Deborah.
Captain:Yeah, but they actually got married.
Jay:I know, but I'm saying, like, do you think they got married before having sex? No.
Wilson:I think listen to that podcast episode. Okay, I have to listen to it. Tell me that like there's not like they don't they don't say anything that's but it's just like what I recall is if you kind of listen to what they're saying, it's like it kind of sounds like something maybe was there at one point.
Captain:I mean, they like kiss on the show.
Wilson:Yeah, but I'm thinking it like more than that happened.
Jay:Like Kiff Harrington and his love interest in Game of Thrones.
Captain:Okay, well, they're also married.
Jay:I know, but I'm saying that's like when you play a love interest in the show, it happens. Like, you gotta you go, you're around that person all the time, you pretend to love that person, now you're going on dates.
Wilson:I do know they did they like kind of hated each other for a while while they were filming the show.
Captain:It was post their fleeing, you're saying.
Wilson:Yeah, I mean, I guess.
Jay:That would also explain why they started to hate each other because that's what happened with Dexter and Dev and Deborah.
Captain:Oh, yeah, they got over it.
Wilson:Oh, wait, um, but or I'm misremembering it that they hated each other at first and then they became buddies.
Captain:I think they didn't like each other at first.
Wilson:But I mean, that still stands to reason like they hate each other. Yeah. They had a fling. Yeah. And they're like, alright, we're gonna bang it out. Yeah.
Captain:Bang it out. It's crazy. Um anyway, Agent Dog was really cool. Yeah. He called me the X-Files girl. He signed we took picties with him. And uh just stared from a distance. We took picties with him, and um I got him to sign a picture from X-Files, so it was really nice. I it was really cool. I know it's always kind of like, oh, is it worth paying for that? But it's like, wait, hold on. Like, this is one of my top favorite shows ever. Yeah. And this is probably gonna be like the most famous main character from that show I probably could meet in any of the estate.
Wilson:If Jillian Anderson was there, I'd be like, Yeah, I'm gonna pay this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna pay shirt too. You're getting in here.
Captain:We're all in this picture. Yeah. But yeah, no, it was really nice. Still CityCon, it was fun. They still um Parker Posey still canceled.
Wilson:Yeah.
Jay:You will find you're gonna chase uh Parker Posey all over the country. Yeah. At our conference, I'll eventually see her. Yeah.
Captain:We um we did see um England. What's his first name?
Wilson:Robert England.
Captain:England oh, but it's like really you.
Wilson:England.
Captain:Yeah. So Freddie, no, not Freddie. Yeah. No, Freddie. Freddie Krueger.
Jay:Is he there's a line for him. Oh, yeah. Huge line for him.
Captain:We saw Shia LaBeouf from a distance. We saw Heather Langingkamp. Oh, yeah, Heather.
Wilson:Heather.
Captain:Um, and um Linda Hamilton from a distance.
Jay:Yeah, I was about to say they had a lot of the T2 people Lyndon Hamilton, Robert Patrick. Um Linda Hampton looks great.
Captain:Edward Cullen, no. Looks like a Edward Furlong.
Jay:Yeah, he was there. Yeah. Um at a T2 reunion. We saw Ron Pearlman and Katie Segal.
Captain:Dude, Ron Perlman is so funny. Yeah, Ron Pearlman is so funny. He's like a movie star in the yeah, he's like a real movie star. I was like kind of shocked to see him.
Wilson:Michael Bine was there. I think it's how you say his name. Uh but like you're now an 80s movies fan. Like, Michael Bind is what? Um, he was in Terminator. He was in The Abyss, Aliens.
Captain:Oh, but these are movies I already seen. Not like movies to add to my watch list that he's in.
Jay:Oh, no, but where you know why you know him from. No.
Captain:But I would recognize it. You know who that is.
Jay:He was in Poltergeist 7, remember that?
Wilson:I think when you see his face, you'll recognize him. I don't yeah, I didn't know his name, like his name doesn't bring anything to mind for me.
Jay:No. I mean, I just watched The Abyss kind of recently. Really good movie. Yeah. B-I-N-E or B-I-E-H-N. James Cameron did the Abyss. That sounds right. The ending of that movie is so strange. I mean, I like the movie. Yeah, it's also really long. It's insanely long. And like you think it's over about through two or three times, and it's not. And then the very end is like, you you should have ended this earlier because I didn't I don't I'm not sure about this ending. The very end of it.
Wilson:And also like wait, who are the people almost drowned in that movie? Multiple people almost drowned. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we do. Maybe like no rats in that movie or something.
Captain:Actually, the rats were okay.
Wilson:Or they torture them or something.
Captain:No, everybody else. All the humans were tortured.
Jay:Male protagonist, I can't remember his name at the moment, refuses to even talk about the movie. Like he doesn't even want to talk about the movie. Oh, yeah, he won't answer questions. It's like PTSD. Yeah, Ed Norris reportedly almost drowned multiple times. James Cameron almost drowned.
Captain:Yeah, it was really good though. Okay, I have one last thing for the intro.
Wilson:It's a surprise because it's not even in the in the sheet.
Captain:Yes, I did get you a little Christmas present. It's very tiny, but I thought I thought Surprise on the podcast.
Wilson:Okay.
Captain:We saw this in the vineyard and thought that you would like this yoga. It's a zipper. Um so like it's a little bit more secure. And then inside there's some cat toys. Really? But you probably already have toys like these.
Wilson:Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna eat that shit up.
Captain:Ummediate interest. Thank you. Um yeah.
Wilson:You got a pocket on the inside too?
Captain:Yeah, but like the little yoga cats.
Wilson:Okay, okay. This is Martha's vineyard. Yes. You're saying the vineyard earlier? I was like, no one says. I don't know what vineyard they're talking about.
Jay:Nobody says that. That is way too vague.
Captain:Literally nobody says that.
Wilson:When did you go?
Jay:V vineyard.
Captain:I do say the vineyard. Should I say Martha's?
Wilson:Well, I mean it's your second time there now, so like you can say that. We're residents. Basically residents.
Jay:Like you need to go three. If you go three times, then you can affectionately. Oh, yeah.
Captain:You can be like, have you been to the blum blah blah? Like, you know, you can like it.
Wilson:And you can say, like, when we go to the vineyard, you know.
Captain:Our our bi-annual trips to the vineyard.
Jay:Um like bicentennial.
Captain:Well, we've been twice in the last like four years.
Wilson:The last time I think we thought about visiting it when we went to Provincetown, but then like I know what, you have to get a boat, and then you also mentioned how like ticks are everywhere. So I was like, maybe we don't need to ticks are much better this time.
Captain:Found no ticks this year.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:But supposedly the type of tick got way worse that it's the meat allergy tick now. Oh, perfect.
Jay:So if you get bit, meat's over for the rest of your life. For the rest of your life. Alright, well, uh Like no, like don't even like touch it.
Captain:No, like red meat is fairly allergic to you.
Wilson:Alright, well then I'll just you can just tell me about your trips to the vineyard and uh Yeah, I'm a vegan now.
Captain:Um but yeah, that was just a little, you know.
Jay:I think someone actually expired from that recently.
Captain:Expired?
Jay:They didn't know they got bit by it, and then we're gonna be able to do that. That's a nice way of saying died. Yeah.
Captain:I know, but I've never I ever heard you say that.
Jay:Sorry, they got unalived.
Captain:You're trying to not get us flagged on by the Yeah, we've never said died on this. The heart went on a horror movie podcast.
Jay:No, because they didn't know they got bit, and then they went to, you know, White Castle and ate a burger.
Wilson:So I didn't realize you actually like I just thought it was it tastes like dead, like you are allergic to red meat.
Captain:Yeah, usually highly reactive, yeah.
Wilson:But you're not reactive like to the own meat in your body.
Captain:No, and there's it's like something about the the protein in red meat or something that you become allergic to.
Wilson:Okay. Yeah, your body's protein.
Captain:In your own body, what?
Wilson:I don't know. You're just allergic. I mean, I I guess the body knows the difference. If you try to eat yourself, like like my arm, you know, would I just like die? Is that what you're saying?
Captain:Um, from bleeding out.
Jay:Before you bleed out, your your your throat would swallow up, yeah. Yeah, allergic reaction. Yeah, we know what we're talking about.
Captain:We're basically doctors.
Jay:You would leave quite the riddle for the uh autopsy people. They'd be like, uh, how did he die?
Wilson:That would be a good CSI episode. It really would. Oh my god. They're like all they have is like a bite on their arm. Yeah.
Captain:Oh, there's like this hint that it's zombies are happening.
Wilson:Well, there's just like, how did he die? Yeah. You know?
Captain:This is more like house.
Wilson:Yeah, that is a bit more.
Jay:Yeah, no.
Captain:It probably already has a meat tick episode, honestly.
Jay:House has a meat tick episode? Probably.
Captain:It's always weird.
Jay:A million years ago.
Captain:Yeah, but the whole thing is that this doctor always can tell it's this weird one in two million chance disease.
Jay:Were meat ticks like around whenever No, I don't think they were. Isn't that like a new thing?
Captain:No, they've been in Texas for a long time. They just made their way north recently.
Jay:Wait, meat love in Texas has meat ticks.
Captain:I'm pretty sure they're mostly from Texas. What? I've never heard of this. Oh my god.
Jay:In Texas? Deep dive into meat tick. Welcome to the meat tick podcast. We're your hosts.
Captain:I was thinking of Sandy and Sanjay. Because you're like in ticks? Oh, yeah.
Jay:Can I say ticks into Esther? Ruth caught off the rails. But it is, it is kind of a crazy. I I just I hadn't heard of it before, and I I heard recently someone did have it.
Captain:Oh, a nit okay. No, no, no, no. Um says originally in Athens, Georgia, but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure most of them are Tixis now. Aren't Tixis. Yeah, they don't call it Texas anymore. Tixis.
Wilson:You know, um, you put ticks or tick on the I think the podcast list, so this would be like a good like uh There's a movie about a tick?
Jay:Yeah, that's where I first learned to fear ticks. That is disgusting. I would never they get like huge and eat people. That is that's horrifying.
Captain:It's called the Lone Star Tick. That's like uh colloquially colloquially. Ugh. Uh anyway, um, yes. Why are we here? Oh, Marcus.
Wilson:Um, I think it was about David Ducovny and not like banging bag and the vineyard and okay.
Captain:Do we want to get in here? Yeah, let's get in. This is like not a bad movie. We're like chit-chatting, like it is a bad movie. But it's not.
Wilson:Spoiler.
Captain:Like we should get in here. Um, what are you drinking over there?
Wilson:Oh shit. Are you is that empty?
Captain:No, no, no.
Wilson:It's empty.
Captain:I don't know how to prove to you.
Wilson:Um, chug it. Just fill it on your laptop. Just yeah, yeah.
Captain:Um I have Blake's hard cider American berry, and it's um they like are really promoting that there's nothing in here except um apples, blueberries, and fermentation.
Jay:Uh can ferment. Uh and this was your second choice. Yeah, you're cheating on your blueberry boyfriend.
Captain:Well, he he's nowhere to be found. He was MIA. So, you know, I gotta get some somewhere.
Jay:No, everything you're like, oh, you try one check, I love this, and it just gets immediately gone.
Captain:Immediately gone forever.
Jay:Like four different immediately gone forever.
Captain:Yeah, I've gone to restaurants and been like, oh my god, that was such an amazing meal.
Jay:I'm so glad they have uh three days later.
Captain:Gone. Gone forever.
Jay:The meal or the restaurant?
Captain:That that whole meal, all the ingredients, they're like, they don't even know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah.
Jay:It's kind of funny.
Captain:It's it's a curse. I hate it. So blueberry boyfriend is MIA. But you know, this is this is this is pretty good. It's uh blueberry settling. It's just called American berry. So, you know, they're really trying to take the the forefront of the of the blueberry uh market, you know what I mean? So but yeah, it's actually it's actually pretty good. I think blueberry boyfriend's a little bit better.
Jay:All right. Well, Jay, what are you uh I am drinking Helltown Brewery's uh Buffy beer. It's like a hazy IPA, very good, very strong. It's like 7% for hazy IPA. 7%? Yeah, it's pretty strong. But it's good. Very good, actually. I have um it's a very spooky brand.
Captain:This is 8%.
Jay:Okay.
Captain:I think no, I think Wilson will win. He's having a hard time.
Wilson:Oh, I'm having uh I'm having a Kona. Oh well, I did have one earlier.
Captain:I'm sorry. That's amazing. What happened to the I heard all the mixing.
Wilson:Yeah, what this? Yeah. I drank it. It's like a half an hour ago.
Captain:Wow, that was half an hour. Oh, we've been talking about half an hour.
Wilson:These are bottles. It's a Manhattan.
Captain:How is that Manhattan?
Wilson:Uh it's pretty good. I'm uh re very recently uh into Manhattan. So the day I decided I wanted to like have Manhattan's, like all that next weekend, like the next seven days. I like well, okay, not every single day of that week, but I had a Manhattan anytime we went somewhere to go out.
Captain:I was just like, even at the worst bars, I'll have that Manhattan-esque you can make it, please.
Jay:It takes a certain kind of bravery to order Manhattan at least.
Captain:The first time I ever had an espresso martini, I just ordered that straight for like, yeah, for like the week that we were.
Jay:We're just at a bar and I ordered a bunch of it.
Captain:Dude, a pumpkin spice espresso martini. Who is she? She's me. That was so good. Really good. I love that.
Jay:I hadn't seen that on a menu anywhere before.
Captain:Yeah, I love the fall Christmas, like, let's just anything squash.
Wilson:Throw it in there. Gourz. Gourz. Yeah.
Captain:Yeah. Captain likes some gourds.
Wilson:Would you drink like a gourd iced tea? Or like in a heartbeat.
Captain:We're gonna need to sell it a little bit better than that.
Jay:Mama needs her PSL. Do people eat gourds? Like, would you have like a day basically?
Captain:I have pumpkins, yes, I guess, but like they're not gonna call it a gourd pie, Wilson. It's a pumpkin pie.
Wilson:They probably do call it in some like fancy restaurant.
Captain:I just wonder if they're like, are they somehow more bitter or like they just not they're not I mean, if you've had a raw pumpkin, there's not a lot of sugar in there. It's just you gotta add sugar and butter and stuff.
Wilson:Yeah, just I don't know. I don't really hear about people eating gourds.
Captain:You know, you're gonna hate this. I know you're gonna hate this, but I did once have roasted acorn squash, and there was like, you know, goodies, goodies inside. Goodies, goodies, like, you know, treats and not not there was food inside. Anyway, I ate the food inside, and um, but it was like sorped me in an acorn gourd, and I feel like that's actually interesting. I feel like you would have to be.
Wilson:But what is an acorn gourd?
Captain:Acorn squash! It's like in the shape of an acorn.
Wilson:Oh, okay. It's not doesn't taste like acorns.
Captain:No. That does remind me. But if you roast them, you can eat the whole thing.
Wilson:Oh but um for so around Thanksgiving, the first time I had ever heard of something, it was leading up to Thanksgiving, was this like you like basically mash, or you don't have to mash, but sweet potatoes, and then you like caramelize um pecans and like put them on top.
Captain:I'm down.
Wilson:I had never heard about it. Show up Thanksgiving the next day there for the first time. It was good. And I usually don't like sweet potatoes, but I just felt so weird. This thing, this dish I had never heard about, heard about like two days before Thanksgiving.
Captain:What do they call the dish?
Wilson:Pecan sweet potatoes? I don't know.
Captain:It sounded like it had a name, like a name that you like saw on a list.
Wilson:No, I just uh somebody brought it up and I was like, I have no idea what that is.
Captain:I have never seen that either.
Wilson:What pecan like pecan pie?
Captain:No. No, but I didn't have that for the first time, but like no, like roasted caramelized sweet potatoes with roasted with pecans on top.
Wilson:Uh yeah, or it's like caramelized, yeah. It was like it was like some form of like semi-mushy sweet potatoes and then a layer of like candied pecans or something.
Captain:Sounds good.
Wilson:Yeah, it was yeah. I mean it's a I I'm trying to think of what a name would be, but it's just like sweet potato pecan casserole. I don't know.
Captain:It's some type of salad. Yeah, yeah. Um, well, that's fun.
Wilson:Okay, well, that's the drinks.
Captain:Um 40 minutes into it. Okay, um welcome. Welcome to the 183rd episode of the Red Run Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two. And I'm Captain.
Wilson:And I'm Wilson.
Captain:And this week we're reviewing the 2023 Norwegian comedy horror film, There's Something in the Bar.
Wilson:Alright, I didn't know we had uh William Chatner on the podcast. Shat is back, baby.
Captain:Shatter's back. I'm the worst impression. Like it. Yeah.
Wilson:Um I mean, hashtag you're not trying to be William Shatner, because that sounded like William Chatner.
Captain:I mean, it sounded just like him.
Wilson:I mean, it's gotta be shadow. She was in the room, but you said he's shattered. I said hashtag you gotta be shat me.
Jay:You gotta be shat me.
Captain:Um that's a good one for like if William Shatner does come to like one of the cons. I think he's gonna.
Jay:You think William Shatner wants to hear a chat?
Captain:Our friend Willie.
Jay:Like you think that he's up for that. Like I'm gonna be the millionth person to say hey.
Captain:If you lean into it, I think it'd be fine.
Wilson:I think he I heard he avoided conventions for the longest time. Then he went and is like, woo-hoo, these are fun.
Captain:I mean, I feel like it happens to a lot of celebrities. Um okay.
Jay:Oh, yeah.
Captain:Okay. There's something in the vine, directed by Magnus Martins, uh, written by Alexander Kirkwood Brown. Um, neither of these people are clickable, like, with their own wiki, but Magnus did um direct two episodes of Fear of the Walking Dead, never watched that, and two episodes of Banshee.
Wilson:What is Banshee?
Captain:Banshee is a You were like ready to answer that, too.
Wilson:I knew you were gonna ask.
Captain:Banshee is an American crime thriller television series um that um is a recently paroled thief. Um assumes the identity of a sheriff in a town called Banshee PA in Pennsylvania. There is no real Banshee, Pennsylvania. Um but um yeah, add this to Q.
Wilson:This sounds kind of interesting.
Captain:It has four seasons, so uh probably what network is this?
Wilson:Like a Tubi?
Captain:Um HBO Max says that's where you can Yeah, HBO Max.
Jay:Wow, what?
Captain:Yeah. Um I'm watching that. Yeah, it actually sounds pretty good. I've never seen it though.
Jay:Um gives me sneaky pee vibes.
Captain:Seriously. And he he directed two episodes of that.
Jay:Okay.
Captain:Um okay, so just a quick um so like yeah, there's a a f American family that is coming to Norway is kind of our premise here. So um the American family's main character is Martin Starr as Bill. Um he also oh, he also played Bill in Freaks and Great Geeks. A different Bill. A different Bill, not like the same. Could be mad, but it looks like being the same name. Um and then he also was in Party Down. Um he was Gilfoyle in Silicon Valley. Um he was in Knocked Up and Adventureland, and he also is Roger Harrington in the Marvel Universe.
Jay:I don't know. I think it's Spider-Man teacher, I think. Oh, yeah. You would recognize Martin. Yeah, he's in two of them at least. Oh yeah.
Captain:Um, don't click on anything. Um, so then we have Carol who played oh no. Uh his wife Carol, who's played by Amrita Archie? Um, she was eerie in Game of Thrones, which is a really small character, but I kind of recognized her. Um and then she's also um some in some movie called or some character in um The Ser Serpent Queen. I don't know, something newer that she did. Um I don't think the little kids did anything. Do you want to give me air? I think I can close it all the way. Um okay, and then we also have the main elf who is played by Kieran Shaw. Um he is a little person that gets credit, you know, does a lot of roles. So he was in he was a goblin in The Philosopher's Stone. Um, he was um a scale double for Elijah Woods in Lord of the Rings, which is so funny. Um, and then he also was a character in the Chronicles of Narnia, um, and he's a goblin in The Hobbit. You watched all those movies.
Wilson:Yes.
Captain:Do you recognize him?
Wilson:I do not. He's probably in like copious amount of it. Yeah, yeah.
Captain:Um and then we have uh Jepp Beck Larson, who plays Raymond in this movie, so he's what a neighbor. Um he's most famous for his role in The Last Kingdom, which you watched.
Jay:I did, yeah.
Captain:I don't recognize him at all.
Jay:Oh yeah, he's he's a he's a big character in The Last Kingdom. He's one of the main like antagonists slash Oh, bad guy? Protagonist? He's yeah, he plays a bad character. He plays like a shady character. He's not like a uh he's he's kind of evil, but more of a trickster or you know, untrustworthy character more than anything. He's not like a super evil person.
Captain:Um and then we have one other neighbor, Kale Helvang Larsen. He is Norwegian, so I'm butchering his name. Um, but he's a comedian actually. He's best known for his work uh with Elvis as part of some comedian trio. Who is this?
Wilson:What do you what do you play in this movie?
Captain:He's the main nor a neighbor, the the guy that gives all of the discussion about Jeppe.
Jay:That's a different neighbor. Jeppe's one of the participants.
Captain:That who plays it plays Hannah.
Jay:Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Captain:Um and then, yes, he's he yeah, so this guy, Kale, he's a comedian who's in a comedy trio called Roskman, which means fast. I think it the translation is more like quick, like you're you know, you're like, you know, you can be quick with your not like literally fast.
Jay:It's like quick witted.
Captain:Yeah, it's quick witted, I think. I think um and then you know, he does some other like comedy shows, um, like comedy TV shows. Like he's got one where you like there's no laughing, like the silent library type of show, but nor we Norway.
Wilson:What do you mean silent library?
Captain:You know that I think there was an M T V show where like you had to like do pranks or like do dares, but like you couldn't laugh at all. If you laughed, you're out.
Wilson:I don't know anything about that.
Captain:Well, anyway, there's a Norwegian version of that. Okay. Okay. So the series starts out with um a man having a full crash out trying to burn a barn to the ground. Um he gets burnt alive instead. That's all we really see though.
Wilson:Well, yeah, you see a figure. Oh, you do see a figure? I think you see Yeah. Actually, I think you do. That or like eyes. Yeah. Because he like pushes that weird tire swing or something and like knocks him out the window.
Captain:Yeah, and then he burns alive. Yeah. Um, and then a year later, you see an American family driving um through Norway, and they're talking about how they are what?
Jay:I just thought of something. He burned alive, but there's snow everywhere. Why didn't he just get on the ground and roll around?
Captain:Well, I think he's covered in gasoline or something.
Jay:Yeah, but the snow will help. I I don't know why I just thought about that now. He falls down, he falls on the ground, he's burning alive.
Captain:Yeah, but if water makes grease fires worse, why why would snow make But it's powdered snow, it should smother the fire.
Jay:I mean, I don't want to get off on tangent, but I just thought about that. I was like, hey, probably could have probably could have made it out.
Captain:I mean, he wasn't.
Jay:If he just wasn't panicking from being on fire. Well, yeah.
Captain:Um yeah, this is like such a tangent. Um, you should not use snow on a grease fire. It'll melt into water and make it worse.
Jay:Yeah, but it's not fire.
Captain:Yeah, but gasoline is gasoline oil slash grease, like is that not the same basis basic properties?
Wilson:Uh you know what? We're going into territory. I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Captain:So I'm not gonna answer that.
Jay:Yeah, no, snow won't effectively help extinguish a gas.
Captain:So he died.
Jay:So he died.
Captain:And the logistics of the movie make sense.
Jay:Correct. I stand corrected. Pour one out for old Smeehmall.
Captain:Um yeah, Jay, so you would die in this situation.
Jay:Well, I would die. I tried. I mean my good thing.
Wilson:Oh yeah, like what's the in this situation, what's the alternative? Yeah, like you know nothing. Nothing.
Captain:Um. Okay, so anyway, the family comes through.
Jay:Um pull up, come through. Free house yellow.
Captain:Yeah, and we find out that they're um they inherited some great grandfather's or uncle's house or something in Norway um that died. It was the guy in the beginning.
Wilson:Um they do not seem like a family. They seem like no um relatives, maybe. Like he is not a father figure. That is not a motherly figure.
Captain:There are fathers that are just as horrible as a father as that man. He is biologically their fault, but he is not a very absent. Yeah. Um, yeah. Talk about like, yeah, nothing. No parenting. Um, anyway, yes, they drive through, they see a moose, they try to pet the moose, which is crazy. Um and then we find out that the mom is like some health help uh self-help.
Wilson:She's definitely like an MLM, right?
Captain:Um, yeah, and um she wants to turn, they get to the house, no, she there's a barn, tries to turn the barn into a bed and breakfast. Um but like very shortly after they've been there, Lucas starts to see, like he sees there's something in the barn and he even says, There's something in the barn. Um and he's scared about it. But um again, then they also have a teenage daughter, Nora, who's like, you know, a typical angsty teenager. Um Carol, the stepmom tries to keep the family together, and Bill, very naive, is trying to like make the home a home. Um anyway, they go into town and Lucas talks to some neighbor. What's his name? Kale? I don't know what his name is in the movie, but he gives him the rundown about um what the elf is, that he's an elf barn. No, he gives behind elves.
Wilson:Yeah, but like he doesn't believe that there are really elves.
Captain:He's a yeah, well, that's funny. Lucas asks him, are they real? And he goes, What do you mean? Like, are the statues real? Is the lore a thing? Like, is that a thing? Or anyway, yeah, he says, Yes, they're a barn elf. Um, and like they're cool if you're nice to them, but they will um like attack you or make you move out of the house if you are bad to them.
Wilson:You have three I think he said he gave him three rules.
Captain:Yeah, no lights, no loud noises, and don't change anything. Which is like well. Um and then Lucas tries to befriend him, so he gives him like chuck a chip cookies. He loves that. Um and then I think because he's nice to the barn elf, the barn elf starts doing stuff for them. So he like shovels their driveway, he chops their wood for them. Nobody understands what's happening. Like the parents are just okay, it's happening for us. Um yeah, I don't even know how you would just assume that that's happening and it's fine and it's taxes.
Jay:But I guess they're uh new countries, so they're like Yeah, I mean they don't know what's you know what's going on. I mean uh it could be part of the service.
Captain:It could be.
Jay:But when did you see somebody or I tell you what you're not gonna assume it is a freaking barn elf. That's the last thing I'm assuming.
Captain:I mean, he says it's the barn. Yeah, and they, you know, they're just like they don't believe him. Yeah, he's just a little kid. They're like, whatever.
Wilson:So the dad what puts up a bunch of lights, the brightest light. Very loud.
Captain:They set up for yeah, they they decide to like uh try to befriend everybody in the neighborhood, so they like set up a party for a party.
Jay:The barn.
Captain:The barn's disgusting. I don't know how they got that together enough.
Jay:It still looks yeah, it's pretty the barn still looks kind of nasty during the party.
Captain:They just like pushed everything to the sides.
Jay:Yeah, yeah. And the house is gorgeous and huge, but they're like not really a barn with a bunch of holes in it, no insulation.
Captain:It's like there's chains, barrels, like tarps and stuff in the barn. They just push to the side.
Jay:It looks like an old sawmill. Yeah, yeah. Like, time for a party.
Captain:Yeah, but in the setup for that, they put up the brightest decorate Christmas decorations, the loudest animatronic decorations. Um, and of course, the barn elf doesn't like that, so he destroys all the decorations overnight. Um, we do meet the cop at the very beginning when the moose comes through, and she basically saves them from getting attacked by a big mom moose, but um she comes through again when the decorations get destroyed. Her character is fantastic, so funny, like punchy with her lines. I didn't pull her up for cast, but you said you recognized her or no? Oh. I don't recognize it. Um but yeah, she's a really good, like, she has a lot of really good lines. She does, yeah.
Wilson:She's a fun character.
Captain:Yeah, she's a really fun character. But basically, like they tell her it's to short overnight, and they're like, what are you gonna do about it? And she basically just laughs at their face, laughs in their face, and she's when they asked her, What are they gonna do? And you know, she's like uh I could look into it.
Jay:I'm gonna get food down here.
Wilson:Yeah, yeah, she makes that joke. Yeah, I mean it does sound ridiculous, like based on what she like they're describing to her. Like, yeah. I'm gonna call for backup.
Jay:These are the things. Well, dust for fingerprints, yeah. Yeah.
Captain:Um, yes, and then they do eventually have the dinner. Um, I Martin gives a very poorly translated Norwegian speech because he's trying to learn Norwegian. Um, and they're like, Wait, the fuck? Um but anyway, party picks up when they all have alcohol. Mom, set mom hears from one of the neighbors the rumors that this barn is apparently haunted, which she didn't know anything about. Um, so she hears that like there's some weird history of the being haunted and the uncle died on the property or whatever. Um, and she wasn't really fully aware of that. Um, but the party kind of comes crashing to an end when Nora, the teenager, drank everything and then or drank, you know, and then threw up everywhere. Um including um it seeping through the floor billards onto the barn elf, which is disgusting.
Jay:It's disgusting.
Captain:Um during this party, I think the neighbor tells Lucas, okay, there's like one last thing you can do for the barn elf so that he won't destroy your family, which is make him some porridge. On Christmas Eve. Oh yes, sorry, on Christmas Eve. Um and maybe that'll maybe that'll make things cool. Um but that doesn't work out very well.
Wilson:Um because the dad basically eats he eats all the porridge.
Captain:Yeah. Um dad eats all the porridge, so there's no porridge to give him. And then the dad made them loot fish on Christmas Eve, which is like a disgusting jello fish, fermented gelatinous fish that is a Norwegian uh traditional dish. Um, and so Lucas has nothing to offer the elf except that fish, which uh he takes a bite and then like basically his eyes go black and he's like time to rampage. Like they don't they can't speak English, but they like you can just tell that he's like, Oh, that's how you feel about me.
Jay:You'd think um if it's a traditional Norwegian dish, the elf wouldn't mind it so much, but you have gelatinous fermented fish, and you tell me what you tell me what you think about that. But yeah, it didn't look appetizing.
Captain:No. Um so yeah, I think this is when everything the rest of the movie is like a very long attack battle scene, basically.
Wilson:Oh yeah, because he summons all of the elves in the area. Yeah.
Captain:Yeah, he attacks them and then yeah, he summons elves for more for more help.
Wilson:And then they what? Basically break into the house, the family retreats upstairs, and then all the elves get drunk in their house and just party for a while.
Captain:I mean, alcohol's always gonna make it better.
Wilson:And then like some of them accidentally kill themselves, like figuring out what guns are.
Captain:Yeah, the cop eventually shows up again when the family the family kind of you know gets in and out of this, you know. Nora has a softball, she's a softball pro or whatever, so like she's you know, whacking them and stuff, but they do eventually get the cop to come back out, and she doesn't believe them. Um you know, she's like, you crazy Americans. Um, because they're like, get your gun. She's like, we don't carry our guns around us, like you crazy Americans. Um, but you know, that doesn't work out really well because they steal her snowmobile and her gun. And run her over. And run her over. Um and yes, then they kill each other with the gun, not realizing how that works. But yes, the family eventually barricades themselves upstairs and and while have that have the elves partying. Um they kind of like you know, the family's kind of discombobulated, like moving here, but they like bond again.
Wilson:Yeah, they have some like hard-to-heart moments, like bring the story together.
Captain:Um, and then they kind of work together to get out of this situation. So Bill and Lucas get they're on like this long chase scene um towards a neighbor's house, while Carol and Nora are like making it's almost like Molotov cocktails.
Wilson:Yeah.
Captain:Um, to defend themselves. But it doesn't really it doesn't really kill any of them.
Jay:It doesn't do anything, really. No, but they they pour uh what is it, absent the moonshine or shine into decorative treatment ornaments. Somehow they have fuses on them. I don't know where they got those, but oh yeah.
Captain:Um anyway, Bill and Lucas do eventually find the neighbor that knows about elves that gave him the three rolls um and asks him to help come save him. So he comes through. Again, everybody that they talk to about the elves are attacking us, like nobody believes them. Yeah, even the Norwegians that have lived here. So I was kind of thinking that one of the neighbors would be in on it. Like they said that they have the rumors of it being haunted, but I thought like somebody in the neighborhood actually would like fully understand, like have have already seen them, maybe working with them. Um, but this movie is way more of a comedy than like a you know, a twist, you know. Yeah. I'm always looking for a twist. Um but yes, they do bring the neighbor in. Um, he doesn't really help much. Um but he does get them back to the area where they can save Nora and Carol that are like tied up by the elves. And um, because Lucas made friends with the Barn Elf before the loot fish situation, he decides to help the family and fight with them against the other elves. Even though he called all the other elves. I know.
Jay:But now he's not angry anymore. He doesn't think that's a good idea.
Wilson:Yeah, like the kid showed him like a little bit of kindness, did that we were like, I promise, but I thank you, or I'm not sure. It was like because the kid said, I promise we'll keep you safe or like keep you happy in the beginning, but it was like you did everything to make him unhappy. So what is your promise?
Captain:Yeah, I mean, yes, he he got like yeah, all the party noise, all the lights.
Wilson:Um I did give him cookies though, so yeah, like four cookies and then loot fish, like this elf basically helps sacrifice the rest of the elves because of the cookies.
Captain:Yes. How do they how do the rest of the elves go?
Wilson:Oh yes, something some flammable things in the barn.
Captain:Yes. I think uh one of the barrels gets knocked over during the fight scene and and like oil starts leaking out. They show it briefly, but then it comes up at the very end of the movie like 30 minutes later, and it's a good tie out. At the beginning of the movie, the guy was just like, I'm gonna burn this ground, this barn to the ground, you know, because it's evil and he doesn't get to do it. And now at the end of the movie, they do finally get to burn the barn to the ground. So it's a good bookend for that. Um but at the last scene, they're like, Well, the neighbor goes, Well, your original barn Alice, he lost his home. Like now he's homeless.
Wilson:He's like their friend now, and he just like looks really sad and he doesn't have a home anymore.
Captain:Um, so they decide to give him a home. He gets to live inside of the little fake um museum in town. Yeah, like Santa Museum or old timey house museum. What?
Wilson:Well, yeah, it's just like a silly, like like Santa's. I don't know.
Captain:Nice land, I think, literally translates to Santa land.
Wilson:Yeah, but it's just funny.
Captain:But yes, he gets to yes, he actually becomes like friends with them. Oh, and they get to finally Santaurora at the end of the movie, because it is Norway after all. Um so it does end with a happy ending. And this movie is a comedy, so like it actually they actually do hit the comedy very well. And the horror, like, there's enough horror and comedy in here. There's a little too much fighting for my liking, like, to give this like amazing ratings. Because there's like I mean, isn't the fighting the battling scene like that?
Wilson:I think they're fun. Yeah, I like it.
Jay:So you dropped your rating. Like the fight scene.
Captain:Because it just goes on so long.
Jay:I think it's very Christmassy, it's giving me like home alone vibes, basically, where they're like trying to defend their home from the It is home alone vibes for sure.
Captain:Um, but a little bit more hard because the elves are like, you know, creepy and deadly and they do do some sneaky stuff that like you know, you see the you know, that like camera angle where like a dark, like a shadowed figure of the thing, like the elf, for example, is like goes across the camera screen, um, you know, in the foreground, while in the background there's like you know, Babil doing something in the kitchen. So like you get those scenes um or like his reflection showing in the glass of the fridge with Nora um was such a bitch was she drops a glass, shatters it, and then just walks away. Cleans up nothing.
Wilson:Typical teenager.
Captain:That is not I'd be screamed at if I shattered a glass and just left it there for people to step on.
Wilson:Um that's some like six seven behavior right there. Oh six seven. Ugh. Don't do that.
Captain:What how old do you think you are?
Wilson:Cut that part out.
Captain:Um but yeah, it it's actually a pretty good movie overall, though. It's like it's funny, it hits, it's got your Christmas in there. Let's take a commercial break and we'll be right back because I've none of those hakus.
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Jay:I've been there after this podcast. What? I've been there after this podcast. Oh, yeah, and right there.
Captain:Um okay, so subnoms hot goos. Um, okay, we have a $1.3 million box office. Didn't really find a budget for this. Um it's really hard to, I don't know. It's Norwegian and like there's numbers weren't really out there.
Jay:Okay.
Captain:Um, but ratings. Um, this is an 81% critics and a 51% audience. So 81% critics is really good.
Wilson:That's kind of surprising. I mean, it was good. Let me see.
Captain:I'm surprised the audience is 51%.
Wilson:Yeah. You thought it'd be higher? I thought it'd be higher. So not terribly hard.
Captain:Right, right on the mark with uh with Rotten Tomatoes, but Letterboxd is usually a little harsher than Rotten Tomatoes, no?
Wilson:Uh yeah, yeah, Letterbox is usually harsher.
Jay:So Rotten Tomatoes is typically the kindest.
Captain:The kind oh, like versus IMBD.
Jay:IMDB, Letterboxd.
Wilson:I feel like IMDB gives everything like 8.6.
Jay:Yeah, I IMDB is really harsh. And also like really particular. Like some movies that I think are like great, they're like, because they're not like Christopher Nolan Batman movies. People are like, oh, it's like a seven.
Captain:Um I've uh I'm just gonna rate mine right now.
Wilson:What are you rating it?
Captain:Okay, I gave it a 3.5.
Wilson:I give it a three and a half. Or sorry, no, I gave it a three. You're gonna say a three and a half.
Captain:Um yeah, I don't know. It's just it's a funny movie. It has the heart in there. I laughed a lot during this movie.
Wilson:Yeah, I mean, okay, it I mean it doesn't have like the best heart, but it has like enough to keep the movie going.
Captain:Yeah, to keep the movie going.
Wilson:Because there was like no there wasn't really like a familial family chemistry. No. I still don't believe any of them are family members. No. But uh it was a good movie.
Captain:Out of all the one out of all the characters that actually like try to give family, it's actually the stepmom.
Wilson:Yes. I found her really annoying.
Captain:Oh, like when she enters the one town restaurant and she goes, hi everybody.
Wilson:Yeah, I just I felt like I d I just felt all of her like scenes were it felt inauthentic. I don't know.
Captain:But um, yeah, but I think her trying to bond with her stepdaughter was like authentic enough.
Wilson:Yeah, it's better than like the dad that didn't do anything. Oh my god. Do you know you have kids?
Captain:Like he doesn't, he's the worst listener. He doesn't parent up with it.
Wilson:Oh, I eat your porridge, sorry or I'll eat the bowl here. No, sorry.
Captain:Thanks for the porridge. Um yeah, he just doesn't, he's just like not, he's nothing. Yeah.
Jay:Yeah, completely uninterested.
Captain:And then like Even when his wife like yells at him about how she was so upset that she found about found out about the rumors of this house, and he's like, Oh yeah, I just didn't want to tell you. Yeah. And then tells her, like, yeah, so like he died in the house, and he caught him like he like uh fell out of the second story and like caught himself on fire, and she was like so mad that he knew all of this stuff about that and the rumors and like just didn't tell her.
Wilson:Yeah. I wonder, like that him, like the dad character being kind of absent doesn't change anything about the story. So I wonder if like Martin Starr, like he's never really maybe has never really played like a very connected father character. I've never seen him play that. I just play what I know.
Captain:Yeah, I mean his at least his character is like it's gonna sound bad, but it's like actually a flushed out character. It's like, oh, I know who this is an absent, terrible dad.
Jay:Like they don't play off that a lot though. Like it's not like his children don't really resent him in the way you think they're gonna be. Oh no, they're fine. Yeah, they're just like, oh whatever, it's all stepmom's fault. It's like what? Like he's just moved you halfway across the world and didn't even care about what was going on in your life. Yeah. But they they I mean it's a short movie, so I mean there's not a lot of and it's not there to explore that kind of stuff. So I guess not really. It's more of a comedy.
Wilson:Yeah, I'm kinda glad they didn't explore Yeah, no, a hundred percent, but it's Yeah, like I guess I'm yeah, I don't know what I'm advocating for because like it would have taken more, but at the same time the movie does not need like it's supposed to be a little kind of like you know, can't Be a little like yeah, like we're not there for the family stuff.
Jay:Yeah, definitely. Like the worst parts of Home Alone are like he's going on like some journey of self-discovery in the first movie, and he's like goes to church and talks to homeless person. It's like I I just want to see you beat up robbers. Skip to that part. So it this movie kind of gives you what you're looking for.
Wilson:Yes.
Jay:Um, but enough story to give you like Christmas charm too. Because it's like it's it's very Christmas, yeah. Very like very Christmas trope. Like uh art. It reminds me of like Meet the Parents. Is that what it is? Family trap, parent trap? Where the twin sisters meet at the parent trap. Right, and the the stepmom's trying to win over the candy. It's kind of like that, but so I get the um yeah, I don't know.
Captain:I I there's a couple moments I picked out as like really good moments of this movie, but I don't know if anyone else had a specific rag they wanted to talk about. Um I do have a little bit of hot ghosts.
Wilson:Usually my rags, or like my rags, I think, are any of the jokes that are like we're not in America. Like the Yeah, there's so many of those I really like Detroit line, like all of those, yeah. I think the Detroit line was gonna be my.
Captain:Um okay. So that Cal neighbor talks about discussing peace and negotiating. He's like, you know, in Norway, here in Norway, we we we negotiate peace, and he brings up the fact that he Norway just did peace talks between Israel and Palestine, yeah. Yeah, but he was like, Well, it didn't last very long, but we did it and it worked briefly. Um but he's like um he's talking about how they have to negotiate peace between the humans and the elves, and Bill's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, what side are you on like people like literally people died? And he was like, Well, it's important to understand both sides are negotiating, and Bill's like, No, you know, it's either it's either, or he says, like, you know, we have to kill him or something, and the neighbor goes, goes uh Bill, we don't like shoot and kill each other here until no one's left. This isn't Detroit. It was like very out of pocket, or like I was just not expecting I also like one of one of my favorite scenes is when the um cop comes to the house and they're like um they say something about how like yeah, they're being attacked by elves, and um she basically just laughs at them and then she um she says, Well, maybe there was a fox. You guys have Fox News, right? Um but yeah, she basically just believes just assumes that they're drunk, uh, they're not sober. Um I I don't know, did you have a raise of glass, Jay?
Jay:Yeah, I mean those moments are really funny where they're um they're like drawing on the difference between Norway and US. I I don't try to think of another one. There's a lot there's a there's a lot of decent moments in the in a lot of funny moments in the show. I think I think one of the better moments is when the daughter, I mean the dad's completely helpless when the the uh elves are attacking the house, but the daughter like is struggling and she gets away from the elves long enough and she gets like a bat and just yeah. That was a nice scene, but it never like it didn't it didn't like do anything long term or yeah, like they weren't dead and then she didn't keep the bat, so I was like, well, why like this is clearly effective.
Captain:Why aren't you just keep doing like but um Martin Star his his character Bill has another good line about Nori vs. America while towards the end of the movie, while they're fleeing from the elves and the elves have stolen the sheriff's gun, you can hear him screaming, why do they have the only gun in Norway?
Wilson:That was good too, yeah. So there's some good one-liners in there.
Captain:Yes, it they they are they really are. Um we we were like fully laughing. Um okay, so this premiered at Fantastic Fest, an animal film festival in Austin, Texas.
Wilson:An animal or annual?
Captain:Annual. So I was like, what? Fine. Uh I mean it could be. Well, it was in Texas, so basically animal. Um an annual film festival in Austin, Texas, focused on fantasy, horror, and sci-fi. Let's go. Um, I don't want to go to Texas, though. Um apparently, due to limited snowfall during the time of filming, Starr said that the snow had to be brought in by truckload to accomplish the vision that vision that they needed for the film. Wow. Um oh yeah. And then remember when um Carol uses a um lamb leg to beat one of the elves? Yeah. Apparently that is a traditional Norwegian cured lamb leg Finalar, usually served on festive occasions. So it was a Christmas Christmas lamb. Yes. A Norwegian Christmas lamb. Um yeah, that's kind of all my hot goose. Was this actually filmed in Norway?
Wilson:Yes, it was. I was just looking at that. Oh. Um Norway.
Captain:It looks like Norway from someone that's been.
Jay:Certificate of authenticity.
Captain:Certification of authenticity. Um I did look up if this barn elf is real, so like it's it's um the the folklore is real, not the actual.
Wilson:Yeah, right. The barn elf.
Captain:Um it's called a fjornisen, um, which literally translates to like barn pixie or barn weasel or something. But like together it would be like a barn elf. Um, but it's like a Scandinavian folklore creature um that's often described as a short man, quote, no bigger than a horse's head.
Jay:Okay.
Captain:That wears knickerbockers and a red. Um but yes, they live in a barn and they're typically shy, hardly ever seen, and they're good helpers if you treat them well, especially at Christmas. Um, but yes, if you do stuff that fail keeping him happy, then they will go they will do mischief and harm you. Um so and the porridge thing is real. Um there's a story that tells of a Nisa that um finding a farmer failed to put a speck of butter in his porridge, he got angry and killed the farmer's best milking cow. So that's where that original porridge story comes from. Um you you put the bowl of porridge, um, you know, you give it to him, um, you know, they won't do as much mischief. When we were in Norway, there's a lot of stories about the trolls. I don't know if we heard too much about the elves. There are elves, like they do have elf folklore, and like all those creepy elf figurines, those are really in Norway and used like as Christmas decor. Um and they yeah, they're really into folklore there, like creature folklore. So um we went to the troll museum.
Jay:Yes.
Captain:Um, but yeah, that that that's that I feel like that fully checks out for something that they would have.
Wilson:Yeah. It's an authentic movie.
Captain:I've never had porridge. Is it good?
Wilson:I just always thought it was um oatmeal, but I guess it's not. I heard like rice and corn. Yeah, he and butter.
Captain:Dude, he whipped that up.
Jay:Yeah, he looked kind of garlic and chives.
Wilson:I was like, Michelin porridge. Like, I'll try some porridge. Like, what is that? Um fucking uh Goldilocks. Biggie. Like she knows what's up.
Captain:Well, one of them was just right.
Wilson:Well, yeah. Oh, I mean, she knew which one was right, though, probably.
Captain:Yeah.
Jay:Also, why are there three different porridges at wildly different temperatures? Like, how will those served?
Captain:Yeah, I don't know.
Wilson:Get her.
Captain:And why don't you put them on the table and then walk away?
Jay:Alright, hope no one breaks in. We gotta go, I guess, do bear stuff. Bear o'clock already.
Captain:I it's been so long since I've heard that story. I don't remember why they leave.
Jay:I barely got a chance to eat.
Captain:Oh my god, you need to shut up. Not barely got a chance. Do you hear him being stupid?
Wilson:Uh no, I was talking about porridge.
Captain:Sorry, it's time for our porridge.
Jay:I feel like you're gonna like go eat porridge somewhere and it's gonna be like wildly underwhelming. Probably. This is another word for this is gruel.
Wilson:I mean, gruel is it says it's a thinner version of porridge.
Captain:No.
Wilson:Yeah. Yeah, it's right here. But I think oatmeal uh does count as a type of porridge.
Jay:Gotcha. Okay. I've had I've had but have people have you ever heard people call it hot cereal? I have heard that. Yeah, that's what it's so fun appetizing sounding.
Captain:Wait, that's oatmeal.
Jay:That that you said it's a type of porridge.
Wilson:Yeah, so like it says porridge is a type of semi-solid food made from soaking, poaching, or boiling in a milk or water, and it's crushed in like a ground ground starchy plant, like grains. So you could i I think you could say oatmeal is porridge. But if you hook it up with some what do you have, like garlic butter and green onion? Uh well I mean it can be it's a colour term.
Captain:You're really trying to get chives in there.
Wilson:He was he was using it up, that's all. I mean, I see a lot of things you can put in porridge.
Captain:Squash porridge? No.
Jay:I mean all those things you can put in porridge to make it taste better, you can put on anything else. It's like I can put butter in there. I was like, okay, you can put butter on.
Captain:You know, when I see porridge, to me, it looks like mashed potatoes.
Wilson:I see oatmeal. When I see porridge, I like pictures of it. I'm like, it's oatmeal.
Jay:Hot cereal.
Captain:Well, Lucas's was really whipped up.
Jay:You guys ever have the hot cereal with the dino eggs that hatch? Yes. That's how my parents.
Wilson:That was like a TV T. Even though I didn't like it then.
Jay:No, I didn't like it, but that was like, okay, I'll eat it for the dino eggs. Yeah.
Wilson:You gotta have them hatch. I mean, like they they open up. Yeah, they open up.
Jay:Yeah, I was like, what? Oh yeah. That's how you get kids to eat oatmeal. Yeah, but oatmeal sucks. I guess it's cheap. That's why.
Wilson:I like oatmeal now. I just don't eat it very often. Like, put some raisins in there with banana. Well, okay, you don't like oatmeal. Yeah, I don't like banana.
Jay:Yeah.
Captain:Um, sorry, I think I've ever oh sorry, you can. No, I was just looking, I I think that's all the hot gas I have, but I actually really like this movie. Well so I gave it a 3.5, and I think my actual like percentage rating probably would be Yeah, like a like a 66.
Wilson:Okay, I gave it a 65.
Jay:I gave it a 69.
Wilson:59.
Captain:You're not gonna finish that. What? Nice. Yeah.
Jay:I mean, I could have given it a 67, but nobody's ever liked you.
Captain:Nobody's ever liked you.
Wilson:69 works for me. Um, this is the last episode of the season, right?
Captain:We're closing out season something.
Wilson:Season eight. Maybe. I think it's season eight.
Captain:We're closing out season eight.
Wilson:I don't know how the seasons were.
Captain:Six, seven, eight.
Jay:Got him.
Captain:Got him.
Jay:Hold on to your porridge.
Captain:Yeah, uh, but I think this was a good Christmas episode to end on. There's not that many Christmas hurrars. So, um, you know.
Jay:That's the best Christmas horror I've seen. Yeah.
Captain:Wait, more than Creanthus?
Jay:I never I don't think I ever saw Creanthora.
Wilson:Maybe next year we can watch uh uh Silent Night. They're coming out in the second one.
Jay:Oh.
Captain:Oh. I think so. I think we have a um list put together here.
Wilson:Well, tell the German culture then. Oh, it's a German boogie. I think it's yeah.
Captain:And it's the German version of Santa, but he's like a little mischievous. Oh, yeah.
Wilson:He is punishes rather than rewards.
Captain:I was about to say, like, Krampus is a lot of fun. If you're bad, you get punished. If you're good, you get not punished.
Jay:Yeah. Krampus sounds like he eats children.
Wilson:I well, I mean, he kind of does.
Jay:Oh, I think you watch this movie. It's a good movie.
Wilson:I mean, Adam Scott's in there, Tony Collett.
Jay:Adam Scott's in there? Mm-hmm. What?
Captain:Um, I do have a Christmas movie already picked out. Oh, what else?
Jay:What is it? Die Hard?
Captain:It's a wonderful knife.
Jay:It's a wonderful knife. All right.
Captain:Well, we uh I mean we got a Santa as a serial killer. Wait, do I have that one picked out? Wow.
Jay:Well, where did you pull it? This has been a roller coaster ride.
Captain:No, I think that's the next one. I I wasn't sure how far along I did this season, but I think that, yes, that should be the last. Yes. Um okay. Yes. Um I know this is gonna be a while from now, but our next our next time on the podcast we're doing Curves. I did the homework already, so I'm already prepped. Yeah, and I'm so sorry. I just have to remember. Yeah, it's a horror movie called Curds. Wow. You'll never guess. Never guess.
Jay:That's the horrors of the cheese in having Pride Place is getting out of control. Yeah, but this is like a big curd.
Captain:Yeah, I was gonna say, is this like a big curd takedown movie? Is this like a um cursed? Uh oh.
Wilson:It's a good cast, though. But we'll find out next year.
Captain:Yeah, but if you're looking for like a funny um horror comedy Christmas movie, I definitely would recommend.
Wilson:I would too. I was pleasantly surprised by this.
Captain:You're welcome. Um.
Jay:Any other notes, thoughts in the movie? Huh? Is it any other notes or thoughts on the movie?
Captain:Um, advice needs to be given.
Jay:Oh, yeah.
Wilson:You you need the advice, right?
Captain:Well, do do we have advice? Do we have a function? Do I have advice?
Wilson:Oh, yeah. Give us the advice.
Captain:I mean, you are the guest. It's Jay's guest at our advice.
Jay:I will say if someone leaves a bowl of really tasty porridge in the fridge.
Captain:Oh.
Jay:Yeah. Don't just scarf it down in front of the kids.
Wilson:Don't Goldilocks it.
Captain:Oh, don't Goldilocks it. That's a good one.
Jay:It's worse than Goldilocks, because he's just like eating it in front of the kid, and then the kid's like, hey, that's my porridge. He's like, Oh yeah, sorry, I got hungry. No, no, he doesn't say sorry. Sorry, he doesn't say sorry. There's no apology. I got hungry. He puts the empty bowl in front of the child and says, bye. We'll figure something out later, bud. So don't do that. If you see food in the person's not yours, don't eat it. It might come back to home.