Ernest Scared Stupid

Troll Month, part 2!! 

Captain and Wilson discuss the 1991 comedy horror film, "Ernest Scared Stupid," directed by John Cherry. It stars Jim Varney (Toy Story) and Eartha Kitt (Emperor's New Groove, Holes, and an illustrious singing career). 

The film discussion begins around 4:37.

Transcript

Troll Month Banter And Beetle Fact

Captain 0:18

How's it going? Oh my gosh, we're this is um part two troll time.

Wilson 0:21

Part two of uh troll month. Troll month troll month.

Captain 0:27

Yeah, you know, international, always recognized.

Wilson 0:32

Widely, widely celebrated troll month.

Captain 0:35

Yes, widely celebrated. Um okay. Well, how have you been celebrating your troll month?

Wilson 0:47

You had a topic.

Captain 0:48

Oh, this is like just you know, one of my weird animal facts that I found online. Not purposefully, I'm not looking for these, they just like come to me. Um okay, but this is a really weird one. So I don't know, I clicked do I oh no, okay, it's right here. Um, so have you ever heard I hate bugs. Let's just preface. Oh, they say books.

Wilson 1:09

Bugs.

Captain 1:10

Bugs. Um, but have you heard of the Bombardier Beetle?

Wilson 1:15

No, but I'm gonna Google it.

Captain 1:17

Okay, the crazy thing about this beetle is it sprays hot, noxious chemicals from its abdomen as a defense mechanism. Wilson, these are this is a hundred and eighty degrees boiling toxic chemicals. You can watch like uh, I don't know if it was Animal Planet or like David Attenborough, but there was like a video of like that style going like going through the beetle doing it. It's crazy. I mean, it's like boiling, irritating liquid that it can aim its like butt sphincter at with like very good aim.

Wilson 1:58

This diagram calls part of that the explosion chamber.

Captain 2:06

It's just so weird to me that it's boiling. Like out of all the things, like toxins exist, poisons exist, but I'm like, and it's boiling? Like, what how are you living with that inside you? Like, that's what's driving me crazy. Um, yeah, and it it it sprays it at a pulse of 500 times a second.

Wilson 2:27

Damn.

Captain 2:29

Yeah.

Wilson 2:30

So that's kind of nasty.

Captain 2:32

Don't come near me. Um yeah, apparently it's causes immediate pain, irritation, blisters. Um, it also smells really foul. Um pops too.

Wilson 2:50

I mean, I guess that makes sense. I'm like reading about it also. It says a loud popping sound.

Captain 2:56

Yeah. I just I I just can't get over the boiling part, that's all. Like I don't know. That's just crazy.

Wilson 3:04

I wonder like what kind of predators this takes down.

Captain 3:07

Also, this isn't in um this isn't in some like crazy small like rainforest or it says it's a world, it it lives worldwide in various various ecosystems. I'm like, I never have seen and hope never will see one of these in my life. But apparently they are everywhere.

Wilson 3:28

Wow. Yeah. No, I never never heard of them, or I don't know. I forgot they existed. I'm not sure. That is a fun fact.

Captain 3:36

Yeah, enjoy. Um, are you ready to like troll it up? I don't remember what our troll names were. You were like Brabadanch or something. I was like mud pie or something.

Wilson 3:48

Mud pie? Uh that doesn't feel right. Um hold on. I can check this the transcript in like two seconds.

Captain 3:57

The transcript? I mean, why would it even pick those up? Um like made-up words.

Wilson 4:04

Well, I am I am curious what it thinks it heard. Um oh, I haven't posted it yet, so it hasn't transcribed it, so can't do that. Oh well, it's probably for a good good good reason.

Captain 4:17

Uh I mean I remember last time you were like dying to tell me your troll name. You've it's been like sitting under the surface for many, many years.

Wilson 4:28

We'll have to uh uncover that in a future episode.

Captain 4:34

Um, okay. Well, I'm ready. All right.

Wilson 4:37

This is

Welcome And Movie Pick

Wilson 4:38

a your pick movie, so I uh I really wanted to do this movie. Um so welcome to the 187th episode of the Red Run Podcast, where we review horror movies while enjoying an adult beverage or two.

Captain 4:54

And I'm Captain.

Wilson 4:55

And I'm Wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 1991 American comedy horror film Ernest Scared Stupid. Uh, this is really a kids' film for the most part. I did see some hot goss related to that, but uh this is my first time seeing it since I was little, and I had forgotten uh how much of a kids' movie it is.

Captain 5:19

Yeah, it's mega kids oriented. Um I don't think we've ever watched a movie like this for the for the podcast. But I also like I I never even heard of these movies before. Like this, like this like eight movies in this I don't know.

Wilson 5:36

Yeah, like Ernest Goes to Jail. Yeah, I never heard of anything.

Captain 5:41

But apparently that's the thing. Like I asked Jay, said he's heard of them. He never watched them, but I was like, I don't I've never these never came up in my childhood ever. Like, I don't know if I'm I don't know if they were like marketed more towards boys or like I I don't know.

Wilson 5:57

I think they were on the sci-fi channel, or at least Ernest Scared Stupid was because I mean for kids that's like pretty scary.

Captain 6:04

I don't know. Maybe my parents just thought it was stupid and didn't put it on. I don't know.

Wilson 6:07

I mean they would be wrong, but Ernest seems like a wholesome, dumb fun for kids.

Captain 6:13

Yeah, that actually that whole movie I was like, oh, I feel like I would love this as a kid. Like I I'm like, it's like very stupid, but it's very silly. It's like silly funny. So yeah, I I kid could totally watch that. I don't even I mean that's probably what, PG? Maybe maybe I mean maybe PG 13.

Wilson 6:33

It doesn't even seem like it's probably PG.

Cast Voices And Effects Praise

Captain 6:36

Yeah.

Wilson 6:37

I would assume so. So uh it was directed by John Cherry. He's mostly known for directing all of the Ernest movies. Um he has done some other things, but really it's like these are it's like all Ernest stuff.

Captain 6:52

Yeah.

Wilson 6:53

Um he did pass away a couple years ago. Um, but I heard that his son still has like the troll head.

Captain 7:03

Oh.

Wilson 7:04

Yeah.

Captain 7:05

The the I I was gonna say, as we talked about the movie, the um troll like uh special effects were actually really good.

Wilson 7:14

They were. I think Or not special effects.

Captain 7:16

What do you call that?

Wilson 7:17

Like practical practical effects or effects, yeah. I think I read that um the people who did like the makeup for killer clowns from outer space. I don't think we did that for the podcast, uh, but I think they they also did this.

Captain 7:32

Hmm. I'm gonna have to say I this movie's better than that movie.

Wilson 7:40

I don't know. Killer Clowns is that is.

Captain 7:44

I've seen it like two times, and I'm just like I it's like so over culty hype, I feel like.

Wilson 7:51

Okay, well that that is fair. That is fair. Um so the cast, I mean, really the big names in this, Jim Varney plays Ernest P. Worrell, the main character. Um he's also he did the voice of Slinky in Toy Story. Correct. Um is also in Atlantis, your like favorite movie.

Captain 8:10

Okay, I just watched it and I didn't I I don't know, I never really thought about the voice actors, but there's a chef in that movie, Jebediah Cookie Farnsworth, and he's the voice of that person too.

Wilson 8:22

And Jim Varney did pass away. Um I was talking to somebody earlier, and like they were like, didn't he pass away like last year? I looked it up. He passed away 26 years ago.

Captain 8:33

So did you tell that person?

Wilson 8:36

I did. I looked it up while we were talking.

Captain 8:39

Oh, how'd that make them feel?

Wilson 8:41

I was just like a oh. Uh I mean, because like I didn't think he died last year, but I would have guessed like in the last five.

Captain 8:48

Yeah, I feel like that would make me feel very old if I it was like, yeah, that was a year ago, and they're like, nah, it was 25 years ago.

Wilson 8:56

Um, and I guess he's based on a he started as a TV show character.

Captain 9:01

Oh, okay. I he's got such a goofy cartoony face. It's like a lower budget, um, oh my god. I'm terrible. I like lose every word that goes to my head. Who is that man that I'm thinking of?

Wilson 9:20

Uh I mean, you mentioned Jim Carrey who we're watching. Okay.

Captain 9:25

Um, the one that died. Uh, and he plays I can't think of anything right now. Um he plays the woman nanny.

Wilson 9:40

Oh, um Robin Williams.

Captain 9:42

Robin Williams, yeah. He's like a low budget Robin Williams.

Wilson 9:47

Okay.

Captain 9:48

Jim Barney. Okay. Um yeah, he ha he has such an interesting voice. Um, it's because he was a lifetime chain smoker. And that basically led to his death, his lung cancer.

Wilson 10:03

Okay, yeah. That'll that'll do it.

Captain 10:06

That will do it. Um, so anyway. But you can really hear in his voice. He was only 50. My favorite.

Wilson 10:14

That's kinda crazy, yeah.

Captain 10:16

But I guess if you smoked for 40 of those 50 years.

Wilson 10:20

Yeah. When I saw where he died, at first I was like, he died in the White House, but no, that was just the town in Tennessee. Um, okay, so let's see. Um, and then we also have Earth of Kit. Uh so she's the other big name in this movie. Um I mean, I most know her for Isma in the Emperor's New Groove. Um but you know, she was very well known for singing and um she was Madam Zaronian holes.

Captain 10:50

Yeah, she's her her Santa baby is like in I mean, an infamous recording that she did of that. Um Is that was that 1953? She ha I feel like she's never looked different. Like she's always looked the same uh the entire time I've ever seen her in anything. It's like weird to think that she was doing stuff in the 50s and she's also doing stuff when I was a kid.

Wilson 11:15

Yeah. Yeah. And she just like Jim Varney has a very like distinct voice. I mean, completely different, obviously. Oh my god, so distinct. Two two people with just very distinct voices.

Captain 11:29

Yeah. Terry hearing her talk and yell in this, it's like Isma. I'm just I'm hearing I'm hearing Isma so clearly. Like she's not putting a voice on, like, that just is her voice. So and there's like a bunch of kids in this city, but I don't think any of them were that famous or interesting or no.

Wilson 11:48

One of them, the girl, I think, said she was in like third rock from the sun, but like I couldn't really couldn't click on the other names. Yeah, so um one other thing about her the kit is I feel like when I was younger I would confuse the character a lot with I feel like she plays almost the same character in holes. Like just like a zany older woman.

Captain 12:10

Yeah, she does that really well.

Wilson 12:12

Yeah. Uh okay, well, we can uh let's pop into this 90-minute film. Um

Plot Setup The Troll Curse

Wilson 12:22

okay, so basically it starts off with like it says this town in Missouri a long time ago. Um, you know, people are in like I would say like the 1800s or you know, like Yeah. Yeah, something settling type. Yeah, so um as a little girl running from something that is like troll-sized, but we're seeing it from the troll's perspective. Um but basically the the townspeople they trap the troll, throw it in a ditch, uh, and this like preacher played by Jim Varney is like, you know, you're gonna you're gonna be stuck in here forever. Uh and the troll is like, uh one of your descendants will free me and I'll get my revenge.

Captain 13:08

Yeah, it's like part of a curse, like a legend or whatever, yeah.

Wilson 13:11

Yeah. And supposedly each generation of Ernest's family gets dumber and dumber. Yeah. So when we fast forward to the future, uh it just shows him being an idiot.

Captain 13:22

Yeah, he's I mean, it starts out the we meet him getting stuck in a garbage truck. So yeah, pretty dumb. But we also meet his dog. I hate I hate that he's named his dog Rimshot. Rimshot? It's horrendous. Probably one of the worst dog names I've ever heard.

Wilson 13:41

Um Yeah, like, and then what do you call as a nickname, like Rimmy?

Captain 13:45

That's just I know! That's what I was that's what I was thinking. I was like, what do you uh um It's like I think it's worse than like the people that name their animals like Sarah and like Justin. I'm like, what do you mean your cat's name is Justin?

Wilson 14:03

Uh that would be like People do that!

Captain 14:08

People do that. They're like, oh yeah, this is Katie Haley. I'm like, what? Like anyway.

Wilson 14:17

I'm trying to think of another just like normal name, but outlandish for an animal.

Captain 14:23

I don't I'll just think on that, but it's a lot of like the you know, Mike, Matt, Jason, John, yeah, like it's like what do you mean? And there are people that really do that. I I someone I work with recently told me their pet's name. I can't remember what it was, but it was like a just a super normal human name. And I was like, I literally was like, why would you do that? It's like, why would you do that? I'm all blurry. Let's see. Well, fix it, maybe. Anyway.

Wilson 14:54

Uh sorry. I don't know about that. Rimshot. Oh, yeah. Rimshot, yes. Um, yeah, so the kids, so Ernest is basically friends with these uh three little kids. They're like 12 or something.

Captain 15:08

Yeah, but not in a weird way.

Wilson 15:09

No, no, not in a weird way. Um, and uh they like go build a stupid little like fort in the woods.

Captain 15:18

Yeah, I think he the kids seem like they're bullied, and um like in a way to make it so they can't be bullied as much, they're gonna build a tree house so that Well the treehouse is after they're after the fort gets destroyed by the bullies, okay.

Wilson 15:36

Yeah, and then they I think they run and complain to Forrest Forrest, Ernest, and um basically is like, okay, let's find a new place. We'll put give you a tree house, I'll give you all these supplies. So they go into like the creepiest, darkest part of the woods where this really ugly old tree. Uh I'm here. I'm trying to fix my Okay, it's fine. Uh they go to this like really ugly old tree. Obviously, it's like the tree that they planted on top of the troll like a hundred whatever years ago.

Captain 16:11

Yeah, and we also meet Ern uh Earth the kit, Lady Hackmore, um, around this time because this is her property, and she's like, Why the fuck would you use this ancient historical important tree for this treehouse? But she also has like um she's also like on a bunch of land that's supposed to get cleaned up. Like Ernest is in trouble for not going to her house and like picking up all the garbage.

Wilson 16:36

Yeah, that part I'm confused about, like, okay, so you're being told by the mayor to go on somebody's private property and throw away their trash.

Captain 16:43

Yeah, and she doesn't want him there, so I'm like confused. But he's like, he's uh delaying it because it's like a spooky area. So I mean it kind of builds up that this is not a good put not a good place to bring kids or a treehouse before they actually do it, and then then they do it and she comes out there again and she also well she she knows like the history of this troll.

Wilson 17:08

Yeah. The troll's not out yet, but she's like, I know you're a descendant and you're an idiot.

Captain 17:15

Yes. So, but anyway, they build the treehouse anyway, and then I think he tells Ernest, or she tells Ernest exactly how to um like awaken the troll, basically, and he was like, Well, yeah, first you do this, and then this, and then it's like three, it's like three or four steps, and he's like, But what are the chances of that happening? Which of course he's doing this very cartoony, very kid, you know, yeah. He's like, but that would never happen, or what are the chances of that? And he like literally just did the whole thing. Um but yeah, it has to be like somebody of his family puts his hands on the tree and like says these things, and then of course the trolls awa awoken. I think we also hear from her that the troll has like um glowing eyes and it always goes after kids and it turns them into little wooden dolls. So like we get that set up before the troll comes out.

Kids Vanish On Halloween Night

Wilson 18:09

Yeah, and then like the one kid basically just like gets killed off at the beginning of the movie and we don't see him again.

Captain 18:15

Yeah, pretty immediately.

Wilson 18:17

Because I think the yeah, the troll wakes up, everyone scrambles, and one of the kids gets separated, they they ditch him basically, uh, and it gets turned into a wooden statue.

Captain 18:28

Yes, yes, he does. Um, and I think very quickly after that, Ernest is like, it like I was telling I was I I was typing to you in the chat, I'm like, I mean, he's like literally trolling, like modern trolling. Like he's grabbing a microphone, you know, running through the streets screaming like, there's trolls out, you know, people don't panic, don't panic. I'm like, oh my god. It's like having SpongeBob as a neighbor, but worse.

Wilson 18:57

You're right, he is a very like Spongebob adjacent character.

Captain 19:04

And I think we find out from Lady Hackmore what she's got like a book that has the history of the troll, and she's like, he needs like five kid souls trapped in the wood to unleash his army of trolls that will take over the world and like kill all the kids in the world or something, right?

Wilson 19:19

Yeah, and I think adults too, maybe, or they never answered that question.

Captain 19:23

Yeah, they don't answer that, and they take a dog, so I'm like really confused at like what souls count here.

Wilson 19:31

Uh okay, so I think um after that first kid's taken, basically the next like 45 minutes, it's him tracking down these kids, trying to get five, and nobody believing um uh Ernest.

Captain 19:50

Yeah, oh it's also Halloween night. This has to happen on Halloween night.

Wilson 19:53

Yeah, so kids start disappearing, and the parents are showing up at this Halloween party, and they're like, Where are our kids?

Captain 20:01

It's a Halloween gala.

Wilson 20:04

Oh, I'm sorry. In a high school gym.

Captain 20:06

In a high school gym. Um yeah. And while they're at the gala, Ernest is setting up these, they set up some traps with him, and then he sets up some traps separately. Um but they're all like really I don't know, like they're very childish, like you know, a box with a stick keeping the lid out lit up, or like free kids in here to try to get the troll. Or like um, you know, a giant um bear trap, like uh, you know, something so big that he could open himself like with his whole body. Um but yeah, it's a very long ending scene of like setup traps and then trap trolls, and the fight scene at the end goes on forever, way too long, way too long. Like they could cut twenty minutes out of this movie. Yeah, probably more.

Wilson 21:04

It probably wouldn't have gotten a theatrical release then, but this was in theaters?

Captain 21:10

I guess this was in the theatre. I think it was. Oh yeah. I have some numbs.

Gala Attack And The Milk Clue

Wilson 21:16

Um so the troll shows up at the gala. Um, it does show up on stage as if it's a a kid in the contest, but then it just like turns and turns one of the kids into a wooden statue, and everyone obviously doesn't like that.

Captain 21:30

Um It's one of the bully kids, though, so that's nice.

Wilson 21:33

Well, yeah, that's true. It's like kind of whatever. Um But then everyone scrambles, Rimshot gets turned into a wooden statue.

Captain 21:42

Immediate death to all trolls.

Wilson 21:43

Yep, yep. Uh and then that's where like the audience really should by now connect that milk. Uh he doesn't the troll doesn't like milk, but nobody in the movie has figured it out yet.

Captain 21:57

Oh, with the ice cream?

Wilson 21:59

Yeah. Like there were like two other scenes in the movie where I feel like it heavily showed Milk and then the troll not being there.

Captain 22:08

That's I didn't think about that, but I did uh I mean yeah, it's pretty obvious it's milk as soon as you read Earth at Kit's book that she has the missing the L, yeah.

Wilson 22:21

So he thinks it's Miyak, whatever that is.

Captain 22:23

Is that real?

Wilson 22:26

I'm gonna Google it and we're gonna find out.

Captain 22:30

A lot of these, I'm like looking at it and it's like reference to this specific movie, so I I just don't know if that's like real.

Wilson 22:37

Um it does seem like it maybe was from Ernest Scared Stupid.

Captain 22:48

Okay, perfect. So he thinks it's Miyak, Bulgarian Miyak, because he's an idiot. Um the kids figure out his milk before he does.

Wilson 23:00

Yeah, so Ernest go grabs like wooden rimshot and drives to the tree. Um, but the kids like they get on bikes, they ransack a grocery store to steal all the milk and water guns, and then so like the parents are all driving in cars to this tree to get the troll. The kids are riding their own bikes, so they don't get there right away.

Captain 23:25

Yeah, uh, there's a lot of um I think you already said this, but like a lot of the adults like don't believe Ernest or the kids throughout the beginning of this. They're like, what like obviously there's no troll, like what are you talking about? And then to uh to like it like they so quickly get pulled into the havoc of like this troll army, like immediately you know, they're like trolls are like bending their guns in like a loop-de-loop and like dragging them or through the streets or whatever, like through the forest.

Wilson 23:53

They came about because the troll got all five statues, souls. And they grew out of these what Ernest was calling Brussels sprouts that were growing on the trees. They fell the ground and then like look at a troll hatched. Yeah. Yeah, so the parents are all getting attacked.

Captain 24:11

Sorry, I like that the trolls hatch with like full like 80s armor on them. Like some of them have like like 80s rocker, like like leather suit looking type clothing on. I mean, I know it's a kid's movie. I just like I'm like, oh, okay.

Wilson 24:27

That doesn't seem right.

Captain 24:28

We're going that way with it, okay.

Wilson 24:30

Yeah. But uh so this scene, you said this very long scene, the parents are basically getting attacked. No one's being hurt um but by these trolls, and the kids roll up uh and they basically fill their water guns with milk and start, you know, melting these trolls.

Captain 24:50

Yeah. For how good the special uh the practical effects are, my god, the digital effects are terrible. Like the 80s and 90s loved those like weird like a neon line looking sketchy things or like wow wow. I'm like, oh my god, this looks like they did have a a semi-cool practical effect there.

Wilson 25:10

The first one that they shot with the water gun, you actually saw like a melty gooey pile on the ground.

Captain 25:16

Oh.

Wilson 25:17

Like that part was cool, but I think all the rest they just disappeared in neon lights.

Captain 25:21

So bad. I mean, what is this 91?

Wilson 25:26

Yeah.

Captain 25:26

We've come such a long way.

Wilson 25:28

Apple TV tried to tell me it was from 2002, and I was like, that's not right.

Captain 25:33

I'm pretty sure it's 91.

Wilson 25:35

Yeah, it is 91.

Captain 25:36

Yeah. A real fan.

Wilson 25:41

Um, so the kids basically take care of all the trolls except for the you know, the main troll.

Captain 25:47

Yeah, main troll is in the in the middle of the tree or something, uh, praying to demons to like get give him demon power,

Mega Troll And The Weird Finish

Captain 25:55

right?

Wilson 25:55

Yeah, so he gets more horns and like these really nasty wiggly things from it reminds me of the we just talked about this in a recent episode. In From Beyond when the little thing grew out of his forehead and wiggled around.

Captain 26:07

Ugh.

Wilson 26:07

Yeah, so basically now the troll's like, I'm impervious to milk.

Captain 26:12

Um Mega Troll.

Wilson 26:15

Yes. So he's like, he's going after Ernest and Eartha kits off to the side, like, you know, Ernest doesn't know that it's Well, hold on.

Captain 26:24

Before he does that, he turns the last kid, Kenny, into wood.

Wilson 26:28

Oh, that's true.

Captain 26:29

The main And like stomps on him, stomps on his wood statue.

Wilson 26:33

Yeah. That maybe could have took a dark turn if he just like broke that statue in half.

Captain 26:38

Well, when he stomped at it, I was like, uh Yeah, I was like, I don't think he's gonna come back, but he didn't destroy it, obviously. And then yeah, it's like on earnest to like conclude the movie because nobody else knows what the fuck to do. Well, Earth of Kit tells him, like basically tells him, don't fight it, like you said.

Wilson 26:57

Yeah, it needs to be unconditional love of a mother and a mother's I don't know, some something that's what kills it.

Captain 27:05

Yeah, of a child's heart, I think. Like he has the heart of a child because he's an idiot.

Wilson 27:10

Yeah, so he like overhears that and then suddenly, like, as the troll's running at him, he drops it. The Ernest drops his milk, spreads his arms, and gets like the biggest, goofiest smile, and he's like, Come here, little buddy, or whatever he says. Um, and then he like picks him up and like the sweet music starts playing, and he's like they're like literally it's a waltz.

Captain 27:33

Like they are literally waltzing for like 10 seconds, and I'm like, what type of cracked out night did you have to write this scene? Like, I I was like not I did not know that's where this was going.

Wilson 27:47

And then he gives them like a giant goopy kiss.

Captain 27:51

Which then makes the troll like implode.

Wilson 27:53

Yeah, he blows up.

Captain 27:57

And immediately all the wood statues come back because you know your girl was looking for rimshot.

Wilson 28:01

That's true. And um uh Earth of Kid's character, she had saved her, I guess, siblings' wooden statues from whenever she was a kid. This time it doesn't really make sense to me because it seemed like way longer ago than her to just be in her eighties or nineties.

Captain 28:19

Yeah, because it did say, like in the beginning of the movie, when it showed you the scene in Missouri in their town, it's it literally said long ago is all it said. And you're right, it looked like 1800s.

Wilson 28:34

Yeah. So I don't I don't know, but I I do wonder the movie was made in the 90s, so it's like is that just is she like a hundred or yeah, or like yeah, is that movie just older than I care to think about? Um but uh yeah, so her siblings come out, uh, so they're all good. And then Rimshot appears. I don't know why the one part I don't understand is she seemed like she made a deliberate effort to put her wooden dolls in the tree. Yeah, whereas like Rimshot wasn't in the tree, but he turned back to normal.

Captain 29:13

Yeah, I don't know. They don't know. But she literally was eating those little wooden statues in the tree, like they have a whole scene about it, and I was like, what is that?

Wilson 29:21

But yeah.

Captain 29:22

We can unpack that or she's not like placing them anywhere nicely, they're just like going into the tree.

Wilson 29:29

Yeah. So I don't I don't know.

Captain 29:32

As long as Remy's fine, he's he's back. It's all it's all we care about, really. I did see on a Reddit that Rimshot has like he's like uh notoriously like loved within this earnest community of people.

Wilson 29:47

Well, I guess that makes sense.

Captain 29:49

Because he's in another, he's in one other movie as well. Did you watch the one that he goes to jail? Because he's in that one too.

Wilson 29:55

I have seen some of them when I was younger, but I don't this was the one I definitely watched the most and remember.

Captain 30:02

People were asking, like, why is he only in the two of them? And it seems like at one point it was Disney's property, so like Disney put a dog in there, but not all of them, I guess.

Wilson 30:11

Yeah, what I had like briefly read is that after the not like this movie did not do well. After that, Disney, I think, like dropped them or whatever the st like whatever, and the dog was a Disney thing.

Captain 30:26

So okay. Oh god. Yeah, I don't know. Do any of these have great reviews? Oh my god.

Wilson 30:38

So I think you're gonna be having a movie marathon this weekend.

Captain 30:41

No, no, no, no, no.

Wilson 30:42

No, no.

Captain 30:44

Um, how does he make his face like this?

Wilson 30:47

He is a very like uh he loves to move his mouth. Yeah.

Captain 30:54

Yeah. I mean, Wilson, we're talking about 11% and 14%. I mean, what the fuck?

Wilson 31:00

I mean, but they are kids' movies, so this one's like towards the top.

Captain 31:05

His the very first movie he made is called Ernest Goes to Camp from the 80s, and that has the best reviews with a 62%.

Wilson 31:14

I mean, they must have done well to some degree to get so many movies.

Captain 31:18

This many? Yeah. Um anyway.

Ratings Budget And Our Scores

Wilson 31:23

Yeah, so that's the end of the movie. Everyone's chill.

Captain 31:28

Uh everyone's chill.

Wilson 31:30

Everyone's chill. Do you want to hear some well, we already talked about the score a little bit, but did you look up by chance the letter boxed, which is what I'm doing right now?

Captain 31:40

Oh no, I did not. Well, I didn't say the score of this movie. This is uh rotten trainers, we have a critic 27, audience 52. Um, I did not look up. Is Ernest P. World, is that like uh an anagram? Is that uh uh uh what is that supposed to is that for something?

Wilson 31:59

Uh as far as I know, it doesn't mean anything.

Captain 32:03

Really?

Wilson 32:05

I mean maybe the TV show.

Captain 32:09

Oh yeah, it was a TV show, wasn't it?

Wilson 32:11

Yeah, so like it might be like explained in there. I don't know.

Captain 32:18

Hey Vern, it's Ernest. Oh, his unseen friend Vern, and then it's Sketch Sketches. I don't know. It's just such a weird name. For me, it's giving like that's gotta be an anagram, or it's gotta like what was that movie we we watched where like all the names were like um uh they were like um icy wiener or like what I don't know what you call that, where it's like oh where the name like that when you put the name together it's like a derog it's like something stupid.

Wilson 32:51

I forget what that was, but yes, I do remember Is there like a name for that specific type of name?

Captain 32:57

Like where like it it sounds like a different I'm sure there is.

Wilson 33:02

I am blanking on it right now.

Captain 33:05

Okay, well, anyway, yeah, we watched a movie where all the names were like that. Um but yeah, I'm not really getting anything about that like meaning something.

Wilson 33:19

Yeah, that might be a dead end.

Captain 33:21

Sorry. Well, a girl can dream.

Wilson 33:24

Yeah. Uh the letterbox is 2.9.

Captain 33:32

Really? I don't know what I would rate this because like part of me is like it's so stupid, but also part of me is like, it's silly in a way that's funny.

Wilson 33:42

Yeah.

Captain 33:43

I don't know.

Wilson 33:44

It's probably one of those movies where like I'm gonna say my score, but I think I'll give like a three and then give it a heart.

Captain 33:52

Yeah, you really like the hearting.

Wilson 33:54

Well, the heart's usually like I know this isn't a great movie, but I liked it.

Captain 33:59

AKA Twilight.

Wilson 34:01

Yes, even though I gave it five stars.

Captain 34:03

Oh yeah, you did. I forgot you did. Um, I don't know. Uh this is a tough one. I'm gonna have to think about it.

Wilson 34:14

Okay. Um well you can think about it while I mentioned the budget in the box office. Um, so the budget was 9.6 million and it made 14.1. So not terrible, but it didn't do that well.

Captain 34:30

Yeah, not the double.

Wilson 34:34

Um yeah, I don't know. I think yeah, the rest of them seems like they maybe did not go into theaters for that reason. I'm seeing some direct-to-video.

Captain 34:49

These are this is a very direct-to-video vibe. This is not a theater vibe.

Wilson 34:56

You know what's interesting is that direct-to-video is kind of like an old term and now it's just streaming or whatever you want to call it.

Captain 35:05

Like So I'm nasty and gross.

Wilson 35:08

Well, no, I mean it it says on here direct-to-video.

Captain 35:11

No, I know, but I'm just like, oh, that's right. Like, I'm I'm old and stupid. And I we shouldn't be using that phrasing.

Wilson 35:20

I mean, that was the phrasing at the time, but no, I think as long as like you're not out in like a you know, a conversation, let's say at work, and they're like, oh, is it in theaters? And you're like, no, it's direct to video.

Captain 35:32

And I'll be like, people wouldn't even know what that means.

Wilson 35:36

I think they would pick up on it and just be like a what? Why did you say it like that?

Captain 35:42

I would immediately age myself 35 years. Like in an instant.

Wilson 35:46

Yeah. Yeah. Um okay, so do did you come up with a score? Otherwise I'll just jump in.

Captain 35:54

Sorry. Yeah, I think I'm gonna give it I think I'm gonna give it 2.5. Okay. Yeah. Like I think um, and if I had to put a percent on that, like yeah, like a yeah, like a 52. Like it's not a bad movie. It's not like a good movie.

Wilson 36:12

Yeah, and you're not gonna heart it.

Captain 36:14

Like you didn't Harting's I don't heart nothing.

Wilson 36:17

Oh, okay.

Captain 36:19

Rimshot has my heart.

Wilson 36:23

Uh okay, that's that's that's fair, fine.

Behind The Scenes Hot Goss

Wilson 36:26

Um, so some hot goss. We already talked a little bit because I feel like the Disney thing and rimshot was a little bit of hot goss. Um so one thing is uh, so again, it was directed by John Cherry. Um, he initially had a simple premise for this. Just Ernest trying to stop a bad guy with a mission. That's pretty like boilerplate, like bruh. Yeah. Uh so he I guess he researched several types of antagonists in fiction. Um, and he was intrigued by trolls. Um so it kind of turned it in this Halloween Ernest film.

Captain 37:11

Um originally named Ernest Scared Stiff.

Wilson 37:14

Yeah, I don't like that.

Captain 37:15

I mean, I know that's a phrase, but it's not a phrase to use anymore.

Wilson 37:21

No, it's not. No. Um so that that's the title they used in a couple magazines, but obviously they changed it. Um and yeah. That's I feel like I had something else that I saw that was pretty hot gossy.

Captain 37:39

I did leave the link in here, but I don't think I I I try not to click on these until after I watch the movie, just in case something spoils.

Wilson 37:47

But there's uh this one is interesting. It says Earth A Kit auditioned for this role.

Captain 37:53

Like in my mind Nobody else could play that garb.

Wilson 37:57

Yeah. Well, yeah, and it's like no judgment to her, but like this doesn't seem the type of movie that someone of her caliber would need to audition for.

Captain 38:08

Yeah, and also like I mean, I think she I I I imagine she has like a sweet spot for kids' movies because like sh who I I don't think she had to do Emperor's New Groove either.

Wilson 38:19

Well, that's that's true. That is true. Another piece of hot gosk, sort of. It's mostly a speculation, but they kind of think that um the movie it didn't do well because it was it was scary for children, like the concept of stealing kids' souls.

Captain 38:34

Oh yeah, you said you were scared by uh this in when you were a kid, right?

Wilson 38:37

Yeah, that troll freaked me out. I mean, I liked the movie, but it still scared me.

Captain 38:43

I wasn't really I didn't get scared very easily as a kid. I don't think this would scare me. I wonder how much milk they had to trash for this movie.

Wilson 38:55

I I hope they just used like I don't know, like colored water. Or like I don't know if that's any better, but there was a lot of milk thrown. Oh, they had to use something else. You know how bad that would smell after like under those studio lights?

Captain 39:16

Yeah. I mean yeah, I'm reading a thing about its labeling was like an inside uh Easter egg, but not that the anything about the actual liquid itself.

Wilson 39:31

Okay.

Captain 39:34

Uh there's like a lot of hot goss on here, but it's like nothing that would be that interesting.

Wilson 39:42

Yeah. I don't none of these really jump out.

Captain 39:47

I do like that Rim Shot does do human stuff, like the sword wielding and the driving. The driving. Love the driving.

Wilson 39:55

It reminds me of um well, I don't remember much about this show, but Wishbone. Like a dog. Like they remind me of each other.

Captain 40:04

I was telling you, this reminds me of Jim Carrey the mask, because in the mask, at one point Jim Carrey gets locked in jail and his dog jumps up into his dog Milo jumps up into the jail window and he's like, Milo, Milo, get the keys, get the keys. And Milo jumps in the jail cell and there's like a slice of American cheese on a sandwich that he pulls out and starts eating, and he's like, No, not the cheese, the cheese. Like it's so similar to this vibe, like um because like it's a yeah, it's a dog you have a conversation with that, like it, you know, understands the things that you're saying. Um Ernest it's so funny when Ernest uh is like yelling at Milo to help him, and he's like, you know, you're ugly and sending something, and then he like uh Remshad just decides not to help him because he called him ugly.

Wilson 40:55

Oh yeah, it was the giant bear trap.

Captain 40:57

Um yeah. I took a photo of him and sent it to you. I was like, he's so freaking cute. He's so cute. But um, yeah, he's definitely like you know, if I had to rag like a if I could do a Wilson rag where I just rag a character, it's it's rim shot.

Wilson 41:16

Well, I actually have a rag this time that isn't a character.

Captain 41:20

I do have another rag, but that would be like i my real rag is rim shot, but I did pick a line out that I liked as well. But you go first.

Funniest Lines And Best Bits

Wilson 41:29

Um so the I guess the exchange I like the most, or at least I laugh the most, was um well, I guess partly it's Jim Barney's performance, but uh the the troll was like, you will die for the disgrace of your forefathers, and Ernest's like I didn't have forefathers, I only had one father, and I didn't really know him that well.

Captain 41:49

That one was also good. I wrote that one down. Um mine was when Ernest, when the the troll first comes out and all the children go running, but the troll is like in the treehouse with Ernest um for a moment by himself, and the the troll is literally staring at him, growling, slowly coming towards him, and Ernest goes, and just goes, boy, I sure hope you're from Keebler. I forgot about that. That one really made me laugh too.

Wilson 42:23

Oh, that's a good one. My brother used to love that line.

Captain 42:27

Oh, really? Uh yeah, that one is pretty good. I think the two that we picked out are probably my favorites, to be honest. Oh, wait, there was one other one. This wasn't a line he said, but um he goes to that general store um to get like stuff for the troll traps. And I think the clerk sees the troll behind Ernest at one point, and he starts making all these gestures, like he doesn't want to say anything, but he starts making all these gestures to Ernest, like turn around or like there's danger behind you. And the Ernest thinks he's playing charades. So he starts casting a bunch of stuff. He just starts guessing things that are like, okay, is it this? Is it and at some point he comes up, he comes up with like two something, like because I think he uh something with like the clerk puts his fingers up, and then eventually the clerk pulls a gun around the counter and it's a two-barrel shotgun, and it's like two barrel, two barrel.

Wilson 43:21

Like it's like it's a fun movie.

Captain 43:28

Yeah, it's very funny, even as an adult, to be honest. I don't know, maybe it deserves more than what I gave it. I I don't know. It's like so stupid. It's so stupid.

Wilson 43:39

Yeah. But I do kind of want to like I want to watch one other one.

Captain 43:44

Oi, this one well, maybe the very first one. Those two have the best reviews. This one and the the the camp one.

Wilson 43:52

Yeah. I think we should do that. I mean not for the podcast. Not for the podcast.

Captain 43:59

Wow. I feel like this is I mean it's not a very extensive plot, so there's really not like a lot to say, but um yeah, I don't know. I would if you're looking for like a stupid, silly uh uh this is not a scary movie. Um just a stupid, silly movie, I would recommend this.

Wilson 44:19

Oh yeah, yeah, like um yeah, I don't know. I th I would yes, I would recommend it.

Captain 44:25

I guess I this is not what I was imagining this movie to be. And you even said that you didn't remember it like this.

Wilson 44:31

Yeah, how I guess how did you picture it?

Captain 44:34

I just thought it was gonna be a lot more I thought it was gonna be more like goosebumps. Where like it's actually does have a scary vibe, but it more kiddie.

Wilson 44:43

Mm-hmm like a little darker.

Captain 44:45

Yeah, like there's actually like uh danger and like uh like the kids are actually like genuinely scared and it's less yeah, this is just so campy. In like um it it's like purposefully very lighthearted, and I wasn't expecting it to be this lighthearted.

Wilson 45:06

Hmm. Okay. Goose Worms has a little it's got a little Yeah, I mean like some of those episodes end kinda dark.

Captain 45:13

Yeah, they got a little a little heft to them. That's what I was expecting.

Wilson 45:16

So I don't I mean, I don't have anything else for this movie.

Captain 45:19

I I know. It's like kind of crazy, but I mean it is what it is. That's troll month.

Wilson 45:25

That's troll month.

Captain 45:26

Uh those are good troll month movies.

Wilson 45:28

Yeah, we need some more theme months.

Captain 45:30

Couldn't have done it any better. Um, I just have one other thing before I'm gonna uh need some

Next Pick Stay And Closing Advice

Captain 45:36

advice. Okay. Um next week, uh next time on the Red Run podcast, we're doing a movie called Stay from 2005. I've been purposely like trying to give a little what it's about. This is an unstable psych patient, but it's from the psychiatrist POV is this movie. Okay. Yeah.

Wilson 45:53

I did like briefly look at the cast and it looks pretty good.

Captain 45:56

Oh yeah, is this the one that has like a gazillion people in it?

Wilson 46:00

Yeah, I think before they're like mostly famous.

Captain 46:03

Yeah, I think I I prepped this one already, and I was like, oh my god, the prepping of the of the cast took forever. Yes. Yeah, they're all really famous. And there's a thousand people in here. So enjoy.

Wilson 46:19

Yeah, I've also never heard about this movie, so it might not be that good, but I mean, are they ever really like that good? True, true, true. Um okay, so you need advice.

Captain 46:31

I am gonna need some motherfucking advice based on this movie. Do you have anything that popped out at you while you're watching?

Wilson 46:39

Um, I guess if like anyone ever tells you, hey, if you do these exact steps, something terrible will happen. Don't like do those exact steps.

Captain 46:50

Yeah, don't mimic them. Yeah, that's that's probably really good advice.