1993 Individual State Recap

Steve and Teague take a look at every bracket from Individual State in 1993!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Welcome to the Wisconsin Wrestler Podcast with your co-hosts Teak Fenwick and Steve Lurkwick.

SPEAKER_03 0:15

Oh, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of the Wisconsin Wrestler Podcast. I'm your host, Teak Fenwick, coming to you live from Holman. Joining me as always from Koshkinong. Yes, that bearded man is indeed Steve Lurquin. Steve, great to be here.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Pumped to be here. Excited to talk some wrestling past steak brackets. And yes, longest I've ever had. I've gone without shaving. Um I don't know. I'm kind of indifferent. I'm getting mixed reviews. My wife isn't against it. And I had a one of my not my students, but he came up to me. I was standing outside at recess. He came up to me and he said, Man, Mr. Lurklin, you look really manly.

SPEAKER_03 1:00

And I said, Well, thank you. I appreciate that. You do uh you don't have a baby face, Steve, but you uh you definitely look youthful.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Oh, so yeah, that's one one of the students did uh my math students told me, he goes, Mr. Lurquin, that beard makes you look old. And I was like, Well, that's a good I wouldn't say old. I think like you got a little more intimidation to you. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

Yeah.

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Hey, with with middle school kids, it's uh I can I'll take anything I can get.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

As much as you can, yeah. Right up well, Steve, we have a fun one. Uh already going a little bit off schedule here, as I know we're trying to get all the coaches and four-timers on, and sometimes the spring schedule just doesn't allow it, right? That's reality. But one promise we did make is that after the first month or so, we're trying to do at least one episode a week. And when it comes to Wisconsin wrestling history, I wouldn't call it a filler episode, right? Uh, we just got we got a good uh backup plan in our back pockets when we don't have uh anyone we can get on, and that's looking at old state brackets.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Mm-hmm. Yeah, pick picking a year and going through it and uh a great year. I mean, a year I'm pretty familiar with because I lived it. I don't think Teague was alive.

SPEAKER_03 2:15

I it was this tournament took place a year and a half before I was born.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

Before you were born. That's uh that's always a shot to the face a little bit. So I appreciate you slapping me like that. But um, and I will tell you this, I was a little bit nervous. I told Teague, uh, and and for some of you to know, I'm uh uh I most likely won't be on next week when he has one of the coaches on. We're looking for a guest speaker for that to come on and help Teague out. I'm having hip surgery next Tuesday, so I'm kind of I'm uh prepping, trying to get everything ready before I before I'm done. Next Monday is my last day of school for about four weeks. And then uh told Teague, man, I tell I'm I'm not I didn't do any preparation for this, but I started going through the first few brackets. And don't worry, folks, uh, I got some stuff to share. This will be good.

SPEAKER_03 3:00

And it'll be interesting. Uh I know if there's a kid in high school whose uh dad was in this tournament, like the parents are about like 50-ish or so, so very uh very realistic. That's a thing. I'm sure I'll recognize some names as well. And yeah, I went through three brackets, Steve, and then I decided I cut back. I'm like, I want to kind of surprise myself here. But we we do not have track wrestling for this. We have RV wrestling alum, which amazing website. You're just gonna be looking at numbers, but if you know how to read letters and numbers, well, shouldn't be too hard to unpack this for you. So not the most aesthetically pleasing thing, but it gets the job done. It does.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

I think it's easy to follow. I'm old school and it's uh probably easier for me. And and folks, if you have a uh a comment in there, let it let it be, let it happen. Because uh we're we might miss somebody, and and I'm gonna be doing a lot of speculating on last names, like, oh, I think this guy did this. And so if anybody's got anybody that has anything to add, definitely throw it in the comments.

SPEAKER_03 4:02

And Steve, just uh a little history. I'm I'm gonna try to do this for all of our uh all of our brackets that we look at going forward. But the average price of a gallon of gas in 1993, about a dollar eleven to a dollar seventeen a gallon. Nice, and the average movie ticket about four dollars and fourteen cents.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Hmm.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

I you know, I will tell you this. Um, when I was a little kid, which wasn't too far before this, in De Pere, Wisconsin, and some of my uh uh Fox Valley people might know this as well, there was a movie theater, and it literally charged 99 cents for a movie. You walked up, and uh they I remember this very vividly. That's the only place we went to because we were frugal, and uh they'd have a whole bunch of pennies standing there, and people would go walking up with their dollar, they'd slide their dollar across or whatever, and the the cashier would just slide a penny back, slide a penny back, slide a penny back. It was it was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

Love it. Good. See, the nostalgia's already hitting you. Hey, we already have a commenter in here, Ethan Graveen. Ethan, are you related to uh Harrison Gravine from Edgar? Because that was a monster of a human being. Well, he still is like when he wrestled in high school, he was quad tree truncher quad.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Yes, he could have been a refrigerator with legs nominee teague.

SPEAKER_03 5:24

Yes, uh yeah, I think he was around the Welch era. That might have been his his drawback. Well, Steve, what do you say? Do we have 42 brackets or is it 39 brackets? Well, 13 weight classes, so yeah, 39. All right. Let's do it. We'll take our time machine. I should have pulled up a DeLorean video or something, or that'd be too patronizing.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Uh well, DeLorean, yeah, well, 1985, right? That was seven years before, eight years before.

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All right, D1, 113. I'm just gonna say the final result, and then Steve, I'll let you cook, and then I'll pull out any comments after that. Uh we have uh Jeremy Havill of Two Rivers. Steve, this this final section started off with the banger. Jeremy Havill 12 to 11 over uh Mike Olson of Eau Claire North. Uh Mike commented on our Facebook page earlier that uh we might see a familiar face. And uh Mike, all I can say is ouch.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

11 to 12 to 11. Mike Olson, that is and obviously that can be a pretty common name with the last name Olson, but I thought he currently or was coaching somewhere, maybe not, but I it's it's funny when you look at this.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

This is the one who did we did commentary with at Mondovi.

unknown 6:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:49

I did commentary with them.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

You did, yeah, it could be a different Mike Olson. You're right. So um strange to see two rivers up in Division I, right? When I was in high school, they were always we were always like, man, those because they would come to the little shoot tournament. We were always like, man, that D1 school, right? And I I remember uh Jeremy Havill. He was a stud, right? Obviously senior at 100 and uh 103 pounds. Um obviously, you know, a little bit different weight strategy back then, but uh he was a beast. I do remember him wrestling at uh the little chute finals often, and he was he was good.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Yeah, if there's a video of that match out there somewhere, and 12 to 11. I I I gotta see how that one played out. And otherwise, Steve, another just familiar last name, Ryan McKittrick of Toma. We had the McKittrick boys of Royal Waniwalk Center running through uh the WIA a few years ago. So Toma and Royal, pretty close. Guessing there's some relation there. Let's go down D2.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Yeah, I I love this bracket teague. This is this is old school right here. This is uh the brackets are already made, the books are already printed out, and oh, there's a mistake. By the way, yeah. And we don't reprint everything because that's just not the way it works. Let's just cross them off.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

Well, Steve, the finals here at John Dexter of Campbellport, five to five overtime criteria. Is that ultimate tiebreaker? You're gonna have to explain something to me here. Okay, so Eric Torkelson of Adam's Friendship. Eric, of course, great coach at Adam's Friendship as well. I think plays a part of the WIAA. All right, Steve, you go first.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

I well, um, so Torkelson ended up, I believe, becoming a two-time state champ for Adam's Friendship later on. Uh, John Dexter Teague, you know, I've caught talked about that name often. He was a three-time state champ. Just he wrestled with uh with an attitude. He was absolutely uh uh uh just an amazing, amazing wrestler with uh with a toot, so to speak. Excuse me. Um, I don't really know because I know I told you about that, T. I actually wrestled in a match when I was in youth. If you tied, then they did an overtime. Literally, the ref would make a decision. They would it was a referee's decision who won. And uh I pretty confident in 1993 they got rid of that. So I do not know what criteria is.

SPEAKER_03 9:23

Interesting. Maybe someone will be able to answer it for us. Uh Steve, I also think another familiar name, South Central rep. Josh Jensen of uh Nakusa, which, if I'm not mistaken, I think a Jensen or two played a big role in Nakusa winning the state title in the mid-90s.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

Yep.

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And also Carl Opelt of Nielsville. I won't say whether or not he's related to Phil Opel, because there is a uh a whole clan of Opelts up there in Clark County. Another fun thing, Steve, I won't say the names every time, but if you look at the 1992 champions, I think we can go way back with this because pretty recognizable here in D2 and D3 at 103. 92, Scott Clough, Kimberly, and D3, Craig Underwood of Athens. I wonder if Craig would go on to win a title this year. I guess we'll find out.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

Oh, I got oh, I see what you do. I missed what you were doing. Sorry, I'm uh a little bit slow on that. Doing past champions. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

Oh, yeah, you're good. Division three. We have uh a freshman, Brian Slater of New Lisbon, uh, five to two over a Tim Schultz of Arcadia. I don't know, Steve. I think that Slater's guy is pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 10:49

He's not bad. He's a fourth timer. We had him on. Here's kind of something interesting. Jeremy Melmans uh from Wright's Down. Obviously, uh, I was vested in this bracket, being a uh young man from my hometown. He was two years younger than me. Thank you, babe. Uh, that was my wife. Sorry about that. I shouldn't have said babe. Um, uh, one second, folks. I need to take a drink of water.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

This 1993 talk is making Steve emotional.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Yeah, I told myself I wasn't gonna get emotional. Uh, but I just realized this just now. So Jeremy would have wrestled a um four-time state champion Brian Slater. That was in the semis, and actually, his brother Jody, uh, as a senior lost to Craig Underwood in the first round. Uh, so the Melmans brothers lost to two two four-timers. I just realized that right now.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

Um, isn't those the picture of the the cradle to a pin in the rest?

SPEAKER_02 11:42

Um, no, that was a different kid. So that was Jeremy. So this Jeremy Melman's two years later in 1995, lost to a freshman in the finals. And Jeremy was taking him down. And uh I cannot remember that what's the that kid's name was. It was one of the what's the what's the guy who won? He wrestles at uh he he coaches at Wanaki now. Um uh Natske. Natsuke. It was one of the Natsky boys, and it was either, I think it was his younger brother. Um, but uh I can't remember what I was talking about. No, T. Oh, another story is Mark Stoger. Uh that's a real cool story with um he was on JV for three years because Sebastian had just uh obviously Trevor Hasenjäger, um, and I can't remember the other guy's name, but they had two studs at one oh six and one twelve. And then Stoger just bought his time and then uh got to got on varsity as a senior and went on. I think he took uh what'd he take, ended up taking fourth? Yeah, he took fourth place at Jeroby Melman. So yeah. Great success. Mark, oh Chase uh Allenbecker says uh Mark Mark Natske was Matt Natsky, okay. Oh, Mark's the coach. Matt, I think, was the one that pinned in 1995.

SPEAKER_03 12:54

So but anyway, Brian Slater. Also, uh the the names are fun, see, but I love seeing where schools are at, and we've seen both Sturgeon Bay and Sebastopol mentioned already as separate schools programs. Correct.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

Yep, now combined.

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And uh and this one, Dominic Shannon Ozaki. There's now a Sterling Shannon in the sport. Steve Anchik of Cameron. There's gotta be a bunch of Anchicks because uh there's uh what, Thane and Tony are officials now. Thane won a couple of state titles. So familiarity there with names. Let's go down 112 D1. Um I'll zoom out here before I announce the results. Get the whole bracket in. Alright, that wasn't as smooth as I thought it was gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

I suppose I could have filled that with something.

SPEAKER_03 13:52

I'll get better. No, you're you're doing great. Alright, we have Chad Powell, Madison Lafaulette, with the 11-what a great final session, Lordy, with the 11-9 victory over a Jason Malko of a D1 Medford. Medford, yeah. Steve, if I'm not mistaken, is this remember when Caden Reetz won it in 2019? He was the first Madison area wrestler to win in almost 30 years. I do remember that. I wonder if Chad Powell was the last one.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Yeah, the history bus might know that one. Uh, I know Chad Powell as he was he coached at Cashton. Um, he was uh he coached his team to the finals, and they actually in 2006 lost to Wrightstown in the finals and and uh did it did a great job coaching out there in Cashton.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

Admittedly, not as familiar with a lot of last names on this one. Holowinski from Pulaski. I feel like I've heard that before. But really, no, I personally know Tim Fitzpatrick, a Holman sophomore at this time. I think he's the one whose kid ended up wrestling at Arcadia. Remember the year with the three Fitzpatricks? I do, yeah, absolutely. That was fun. All right, going down Division II. You know what? I think I'm just gonna stay zoomed out. What's up, sir?

SPEAKER_02 15:23

Well, here's yeah, interesting. Uh uh 112 pounds if you're going. Uh look who the state champ was in 1992 for 112 pounds. Rob Carl. Rob Carl, Auburn Dale.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Well, here at D2112, Nick Weigman of uh Cuba City, 11-6 victory over Kelly Schinkenberg, East Troy. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Yeah, Shinkenberg. Uh, I think he was a two-time state finalist, great wrestler for East Troy. Uh, got to know him a little bit when we'd go down to uh the Gramby camp down in East Troy, and he moved to Fort Atkinson for a while. This guy was wrestling for Fort. Not sure where he is now. Great wake class here, though. Uh Brian Tomes, interesting story with him. Obviously, Surgeon Bay. He was the one team, and I think you heard a little bit about the history. Went up to the Door County Classic. He was the guy that went down and coached at oh City Kids. I cannot remember the name of the Milwaukee School, but basically Pulaski? No. Custer. Custer. He went down to Custer, and uh obviously with his coaching staff did a great job. And they he got Custer. Um, they had a state champ that year, I believe. They had all kinds of kids a state, and they they qualified for team state. Just uh, I believe there's a documentary or uh YouTube, something like that, made about them, but um Scott Clough, and uh we talked about that score with Scott when we had him on. He's coaching at Oshkosh. Um no, not Oshkosh, Appleton North. Uh Scotty was a state champ as a as a junior and had just a crazy, crazy semifinals. Uh, he ended up getting fit pinned. He was, I think it was a tied match. He ended up getting thrown and getting pinned in the last few seconds. But uh uh Scott was, like I said, uh returning state champ, ended up taking third.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

Yeah, tough. And Kimberly, I think what sticks out more is uh Kimberly being D2.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

Yeah, yeah, just a huge school now. And as I see one of our commenters, Scott Cleaver, on uh Scott Clough and Scott Cleaver, both two FBA wrestlers of the year who we've had on our podcast. So get my little Scott Cleaver shout out in there.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

And a division three. We have uh Craig Underwood, 7-0 victory over Matt Olson. This, I don't even know if they're co-oped with anyone, as far as I know, Steve. Matt Olson, uh, the freshman out of Benton, which is almost as southwest as you can get.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

It doesn't get any further. Benton was uh um, they they didn't have a lot of wrestlers back then, and I still remember their, I'm pretty sure it was I I should say I remember it vividly, and now I'm guessing second guessing myself, but green singlets, and they just had the word Benton on them. I remember them specifically, and they had, like I said, not a lot of wrestlers, but they had some studs, and obviously, uh, you know, topside the bracket, Craig Underwood, who's now doing a great job coaching at uh uh Marathon, uh, his second state championship in this one.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

And uh not just Benton being its own program, but Frederick before they were a part of Synergy, Cedar Grove, Belgium might just not have been a district or something, but Belgium wasn't added to that district, anyways, and a Blackhawk, its own program as well. I think we're gonna be seeing a lot of that in D2 and D3 C, these schools just having their own standalone programs. Scott Siolka, I really recognize the Siolka name from Bon Duel. And I feel like I've heard someone talk about Russ Pelican of Kadot before.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

But I could the name is so familiar. I'm pretty confident he went on to wrestle at lacrosse, but um, I don't know. The Pelican name is is uh it's it's swirling around in there. I just can't figure out where I know it.

SPEAKER_03 19:11

I also forgot to mention there's an earlier bracket where the first round match was a Tim versus Tim, I'm pretty sure. Nice. Going down to 119 pounds.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

Man, tell you. I mean, obviously, as it gets closer to uh bigger weight classes, I wouldn't be a little bit more familiar, but this is just fun looking at. Nice job. I'm glad you did this.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

It was we did it for 2011. We were kind of well, A, we didn't know what we were gonna do, and then uh we we didn't know how it was gonna be taken, and I personally have a lot of fun. We got 34 people watching, so love to see this going on in the spring.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

Appreciate it tuning in.

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It's all the old geezers that are watching it. They're like, oh, I remember this. Well, you know, it's nice to do a show that caters to the elderly, you know. Shut up. Oh, here we go. There's another Henschel State Champion, the OG Henschel State Champion, Brent Henschel of West Bend East pin in one minute and 55 seconds over a Terrence Amix of uh Kenosha Tremper.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

Yeah, crazy stuff. You have anything on this one? I have a couple things to add. I just didn't know. If you want to just carry in after you say that, you can just go nuts and I'll um that way I don't take anything away for you.

SPEAKER_03 20:34

I like I like uh the last name of Chad from Green Bay, Chad Roulette. Nice, nice other Tim Cruz, probably related to Menominee State Champ, uh what, Paul Cruz? Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

Yeah, Brent, uh obviously father-son state champs for West Bend East. We had Brent on the podcast, so that was kind of fun with that. Uh Glenn Perrell as a sophomore, Teg, a little name. I believe, I know he's a state champ for Watertown. I believe he's a two-time state champ. Kind of cool, actually. Uh, he came down, so there was um we had seven guys go down to the seven right sound guys go down to the East Troy um Gramby camp. And uh so we had three and one room, and that was us, and then we had this guy coming, ended up being Glenn Perro. So I was roommates with Glenn Perro at a wrestling camp. And then uh I'd like to say I taught him everything he knows because he went on to win two more state champs.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

So uh a match I just caught at the bottom. 21 and 12, Jason Leventure of Oconnell, 10-8 over Andy Roget of Holman, who was 31 and 2 at the time. That's why they wrestle the matches. That is true. All right, going down a division two.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Oh, here's a nice! Oh, I should have brought down my Somerset. Uh my somerset mug, I forgot.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

I have my Somerset mug right here, but familiar names abound in this one as a Ryan Breninger of Richland Center. Seven to two victory over uh Andy German of uh Jefferson and uh German. Uh well you said Andy, it's Adam. Adam, sorry, sorry, Adam. Um, I believe it's Geerman. Yep. Just running through the last names here, Steve. Of course, we know Allie Peterson, one of the good guys in the sport. Wrestle for Baldwin, Woodville. David Horneck, uh very familiar uh commenter, a regular listener of the show. Foyt, I feel not just Wapon, but we've seen quite a few Foytes through the years. Uh Sparby of Wannekeep, I know later on there's an Elliott Sparby of Mosanee that ended up wrestling around when I was in the game. Chris Lennon of Auburn Dale, of course, Easton Lennon of Marshfield, who was he a senior this year or did he graduate the year before? But has to be relationship there. And then for Gaerman, there's another Gaerman that wrestled for Jefferson, like the early 2020. It might be a different spell. I don't know. But yeah. Oh, we have uh Mike. Tim was Paul's younger brother. Okay. Oh, that's for Paul Cruz. All right, Steve, what do you got on this one?

SPEAKER_02 23:24

Uh, not too much. Uh, and was Al uh Allie, was he a state champ as a junior or a senior? Uh, what was the year of that highlight reel? 95? 95, so it was as a senior he was. That's right. Yeah, he's a four-time uh four-time medals, I think he was. So um, and uh just clicking on over 119 pounds, looking back a year 1992, Rome Seifert, who I wrestled with at Whitewater. He was the state champ uh for Ossio Fairchild Augusta.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

Love it now. Now Mike Rackowicky's gonna be sad he wasn't live for this one. That guy, that guy's a big Cypher fan. Did you say uh he wasn't alive for this one? He wasn't on the live for this one. Oh, I probably shouldn't joke about that.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Oh, never mind.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

All right, we'll go on. This this episode is tributed to Mike Rackley. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Mike Rackweedy. Oh, good stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:19

All right, D3 119. We have uh Luke Thorson of uh North Crawford, a 7-2 victory over Tyskar Cameron. Sure. We know Mr. Brad Holzer at St. Croix Central Grad, and now St. Croix Central's head coach. And another familiar name, Sean Groshek of Amherst. I believe he was the end friendship coach when I was in high school. And that guy, as much as he knew how to wrestle, he very much was a great coach as well. There were some powerhouse Adams teams, and I noticed a Laufenberg, just Highland, Highland its own program. Yep, yeah, yeah, Wild Rose, also its own and North Croatia.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Yeah, wow. Okay. A lot of them, a lot of them. Yeah, I totally missed the Brad Holzer up top there. Um, Brian Dagett, kind of a cool story. Obviously, uh not this year, but um, I went on to go coach at Cambridge and uh uh 1993, and I actually coached Brian's younger brothers. They were twin brothers, Paul and Robert. Robert ended up being a two-time state finalist for me in 2005 and 2006. So quite a little age gap in between uh Brian and his two younger brothers.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

All right, going down D1, 125. So I feel like these weight classes stayed pretty similar for a long time. I know a heavyweight changed at some juncture, but I feel like this was kind of the kind of the status quo for like 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

It was a while. 125 seemed to be, and it's just kind of funny how you know they they all stay right around the same, right? 125, 126, who knows? We'll probably go back to 125 for a little while.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

125, we have uh Greg Schmidt, DC Everest, a 14-0, a major decision over Bob Beamis of Toma. There's a few Beamuses that just ran through Toma a few years ago as well. And uh Schluter from Kettle Moraine, another familiar name. Well, there's a couple Schluters that have wrestled in this decade for KM. And that's all I don't have much to contribute on this one, Steve.

SPEAKER_02 26:32

I I don't have a lot here either, other than just like you said, just blast from the past looking at you see uh uh Chad Neck from Plymouth, now D2. Uh Ben Fawski, New London, now D2. And then there's one more uh Beamus who you talked about now, Division 2, right? So it's just kind of funny to see the ebb and flow of the uh the schools. And then Teague, this is a name you probably for familiar with, 1992 State Champ the year before at this weight class, Eric Tatan of Lacrosse Central, and I think he was a two-timer, and I'm 92.8% sure he wrestled for the Badgers.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

Deke brought him up on the show the other week. I'm pretty sure. He did. Well is the oh, I love this first round with Mr. Beamis. Bob Beamis, Brady Berglund, West Bend East, a big alliteration matchup. Scott said that Schmidt was just a monster on top.

SPEAKER_02 27:30

Crazy, crazy. Hey, another couple more.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

Oh man, look at all these names. Lord. This this was a stacked break. I mean, when it's eight people, it's gonna be a tough bracket to win in no matter what. We have a Jaron Xander of Mount Horrub, 14-6 major decision over uh Rome Cypher himself from Osio Fairchild Augusta.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Yeah, it's Rome. Um, you know, no, just like Scott Clough talked about him earlier, uh, state champ as a junior and just uh wasn't able to do it their senior year. It's it shows how tough it is to repeat. Guys are just running for you, constantly getting better. Uh the Delcor name for Dave for Luxembourg, that was a big name uh back in the 90s. And then um Teague, what's that name? Oh, Jaren, another Jiren Xander. Um I want to say he ended up becoming a two-timer, if I remember right. Um, but Teague, who did Jiren Xander wrestle first round?

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Rob Carl, Auberndale.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

That's awesome, ain't it?

SPEAKER_03 28:35

Yeah, deppies of random late. How many deppies have we seen just in our time covering? And now I well, the last deppies I remember covering was from Merrill. And Division 3.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

Yeah, we moved to D3, and I gotta tell you, folks, I'm gonna let uh Teague go nuts with this, but um, I did a little trivia question with Teague. And um, oh my gosh, Teague. This is what happens with my names. Uh, he is the surgeon based basketball coach. We talked to him all the time. Trevor Basseniger, and uh, I did a little trivia question, and Teague, Teague, you were floored by this particular name because you're like, man, one match away from me not, you know, this guy not being enshrined into the uh um, you know, the the state history. And Teague, that's that's right here. So I'll let you go through this bracket. And I'll tell us what you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

T Rogers of Oosburg wins his uh first state title 5-2 over Jada Gribble, a Burlington coach of a Riverdale, though, back in the day, Steve. I see Kickapoo, also its own program, and uh see a lot of Athens here in these D3 brackets. They must have a good thing going at this time.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

They they sure did. Well, oh go ahead, go ahead. I'm I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03 29:54

And uh last but not least in this one, uh Stukin from Athens, uh Nagloski of Shell Lake. We covered Briar Naglosky of Shell Lake these last few years. Oh, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Yeah, so the the history with that is is uh Trevor Hastenjäger as a senior who was an absolute, I mean went on and have uh what is it, a two-time national champ at Parkside, um, beat Peter Rogers as a freshman. And he got, if I remember right, it was tight, right? It was a close match. And Peter Rogers was an absolute stud, went on to wrestle for Ohio State. Um, and uh Jason Jones from Brilliant ended up getting to know him pretty well. Uh great, we had a lot of friendships with him. Uh he was a he was a really good wrestler for Brilliant. Um but uh Jade Gribble, and we've had we you know Jade now coaches at Burlington. He probably I remember sitting and watch watching him wrestle at the state tournament. There was no other grittier, tougher kid on the mat than Jade Gribble. That kid just had a look of stone, and uh it was it was absolute, he was it was a beast, but he was fun to watch. Fun to watch on the mat.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

I think maybe to add to the lore, and I hope I'm not wrong here, but I think Pete might have been on the coaching staff for the Oosberg team that qualified last, or did he have a kid that wrestled or something? But I think Pete still uh you know stayed involved with Oosberg or wrestling. Couple of comments. Laura Lennon, Xander versus Carl was a street fight every time. Awesome to hear. And Mike, yes, Athens indeed was legendary. Yes, they were. Going down 130 pounds. Get this centered, get my zoom figured out, and then we will get cooking. Oh, hey, we just talked about this guy. Oh, the champ? You might need to correct me on the pronunciation, Steve, but we have from La Crosse Central, Eric Jatan, four to three, tight one, four to three win over Vince Farina from Homestead.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

And which uh which name did you say? I need to. Jatan. Oh, that's correct, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was uh yeah, we talked about him earlier. He was the state champ the year before. So this is what year is Jatan here. He is a he for sure was uh was was a three-timer. I'm sorry, was a two-timer. It might have been a gosh T guy, that's your area, you should know that a little bit better. But that was uh well not at that particular time. You weren't even born yet, so I shouldn't say that. Uh Sean Hebel ended up wrestling with me for a couple years down at Whitewater uh from Bayport. Naming that one. Um yeah, I don't have a lot more. I do remember Pete Miller from Rhinelander, and he uh obviously um I want to say the year, yeah, he was he took fifth place. I want to say the year before he was in the finals or close to it, but he was uh he was a fun kid to watch as well.

SPEAKER_03 32:58

Couple other names, I think uh Klubertons from Stone. Was there a Dayton Klubertons that wrestled recently? And a Wollenberg from Waukenshaw South. I know there's a Wollenberg that we've covered in this decade that we've been doing this. We haven't been doing it a whole decade, just the decade of the 2020s, I should say. And, you know, I'd I'd say something is Brad Hansen related to another Hanson that wrestles. Uh with with uh the more common names, I can't play that game with everyone. So we need someone that really knows their stuff. Speaking of someone that knows their stuff, Scott said that Pete Rogers lives in North Carolina, so I should just quit saying things that I'm not for sure on.

SPEAKER_02 33:39

Well, you know, T, you're not wrong. Pete Rogers did come back and he was the coach at uh Lakeland for a while, so it's not like he moved away and never came back. So you're okay, you're okay. Hey, and I will say this kind of funny. Um, not funny, but so talked about Athens the year before going back a weight class, 125 division three. Jeremy Brunke at 125 in 1992 was the state champ. T he was a 38-2 and two. He had two ties on his uh his record. So T, I tell you what, we go back to that weight class. What one was it where you said, what was criteria? Yeah. Maybe, maybe that was because if they had ties, obviously they're not gonna have ties in the state tournament. So maybe they did still do referees decisions back then.

SPEAKER_03 34:22

Yeah, I saw I saw two ties on Brunke from let yeah. That's that's a a great memorable stat line or record line, I should say.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

Scott would know this, but I think 92 was the last year they had ties because I don't remember any ties. Well, we yeah, we don't see any ties here so far. So I think 1992 was the last year they had ties.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

And a Blonck from Oshkosh North. I just know there's a couple of Blonics that went to Algoma in the 2010s that were very good at throwing in track and field.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Well, uh Andy, Andy Blonick, I wrestled with at Whitewater as well. He's doing a good job. He's doing like uh physical therapy. He's uh he's like on, I don't say YouTube or whatever, some kind of social media, uh doing a great job. But yeah, he would toss people, he was uh very upper body, so that's uh you are correct in there. I don't have any more comments on that.

SPEAKER_03 35:18

Wow, to add to the lord, Chase uh saying that Brunke was on JV as a freshman. Insane. 130, a D2. We have uh Ryan Kutz of a low die, nine to eight Ryan Coot, nine to eight overtime, a victory over Chad Vienendahl, Baldwin Woodville, and let's just run down the line here. Vienendah, we know that there's an Ivan that wrestled for uh Ellsworth. Casper from Coleman. Tell me if you've heard that one before, Steve. I have yes, I have. That's what is that a second generation Casper at that time? That would be a second, correct. And uh that's all I have on the Cardena, okay. I I only thought of Cardenas because that's the really good college wrestler. So don't know if there's ties there, but yeah, I don't have much to add, Steve.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

Yeah, well, 130. If you scroll over a little bit, I keep forgetting to do this, and I'm just gonna keep it here. But Chad Vienendahl was the state champ the year before. So this year uh lost in the finals uh to Ryan. Oh, field house had to have been going crazy during the year. Yeah, nine to nine. It was it was it was fun. If you were a live teague, you would have enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_03 36:39

So so Ryan and Chad, both state champs, went at it. Okay, we gotta start with uh the last year's champion on this one, Steve. Where is Minong, Wisconsin? The 92 champ is Lee Gett from Minong.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

I've heard of it. I want to say, O'Claire. Here, you uh you start going with it, and I'm gonna look it up. How's that sound?

SPEAKER_03 37:09

All right, I got it. And uh can't get lost in the sauce yet. We have in the finals Jamie Karpinsky of Amherst, three to one over Ty Hopke of Shell Lake. That's gotta be a sibling of Mr. Byron Hopke. Other I think Tim Miller of Riverdale. Did Tim end up coaching at Riverdale for a little bit? I don't know how to pronounce Jason's last name, but Cambria Friesland Randolph. Not as many schools in the co-op back in the day. And maybe this is why Chase is on. Uh, because we have Tom Ellenbecker of Athens. There you go. Down at the bottom of the bracket.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

Yeah, he took fifth that year. I remember Ellen Becker. Uh he kind of got lost, right? Because there were so many, obviously, third, you know, 30 and 12. This is how good Athens was in the competition they went on to wrestle. He's 30 and 12, and why don't they take those 12? And at that time, Teague, you know, it wasn't 12 losses like today, where you see it's it's pretty common. Yeah. Then uh Tom just went on in and said, oh yeah, I think I'll go take a fifth place medal, which with out of only eight-man bracket, that's pretty that's pretty tough. Um teague, I did look up Manong, and that is uh, we see some comments in here, but it's north of Spooner. So north of Spooner, somebody said, not too far from superior. So it's that's way out there. It's north of a lot of places. It sure is. Um, but yeah, going going through this one, some names I I remember Tim Miller, uh, pretty good as a freshman back then. And then uh T I know that on the podcast this name is familiar too, but Jamie Karpinski, uh Twin Twin Brothers, I want to say it was John Karpinsky. Maybe we'll see it in a bracket coming up here, but Jamie was, you know, just uh I got to see him at the Little Shoot Tournament, got to see him at uh uh Oshkosh on the water, they came there. He was just he was crazy good. They came in back in the day when they he's just ripped muscles and just uh the the shaved head was kind of backed in back then with the the the scruff, and that was all Jamie. And he won a lot of matches on pure intimidation. If he couldn't win that way, he just uh out technique you and out muscle you and and out hustle you. So he was he was fun to watch as well.

SPEAKER_03 39:24

Pecatonica, its own program. Although is Pecatonica Argyle, Steve, a co-op or just a combined district?

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Um no, they're they're two different schools, Pecatonica and Argyle.

SPEAKER_03 39:37

Yeah, so Pecatonica before small, obviously. Chase said uh Chase is on because his Uncle Adam was a state runner up at 189 in D3. Well, Chase, don't spoil it. I don't know what happens yet. Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Right.

SPEAKER_03 39:54

That's like that reminds me of like when people are talking about movies that came out 10 years ago. It's like, no spoilers. Like, well, no, you had your chance.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

That's right, too late. Yeah, you had your chance to look at this one.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

Uh 135, uh Division one. AJ Schill from uh Franklin. Six to four overtime victory over a Troy Coons of not Manitowk Lincoln, just Manitowoc. Right. I didn't get a chance to break this one. Oh, I know uh I know Nate Wideman from Wisconsin Rat. Nate actually gave us our rapid long sleeves that I I don't even wear it any. I wore it out. It was it was that nice.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Nice. Cool, cool. Yeah, T, I I wish I had more for you. I don't have really a lot on this one. Not a lot of names are sticking out on me or at me on this one, so I apologize, folks, if you were waiting for this weight class.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Well, you know what? At the very least, T, people get a chance to to admire these brackets.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 41:04

Oh, the state champ from last year, that was Sean Reg of Hamilton, Kate Reg of Arrowhead, great wrestler.

SPEAKER_02 41:12

T Mike said uh it's myong, is actually how you say it. Um are they is that a is that a co-op now?

SPEAKER_03 41:21

Minong or I don't know. Minong is not listed in any program, I think. Right. So uh I I have no idea. They could be maybe it was like uh Park Falls thing or whatever there wasn't. Sure. What's the what's the program that Chris or the school district that Chris Hansen said shut down?

SPEAKER_02 41:40

Was it Park Falls? Park Falls, yeah. Now it's the uh Shack Shekamagon. Shawamagon. Shawamagon, there we go.

SPEAKER_03 41:46

That's probably better to say. 135, a D2. Man, a lot of Baldwin Woodville. Yeah. Mike Eartham of Abascobel, 14-4 victory over Lance and Might of Dodgeville. Now that is a couple of familiar Southwest names. Totally, totally.

SPEAKER_02 42:04

And the year before, state champion teague, uh, Matt Vanenbush of Denmark, who was uh went on to coach for Random Lake. Obviously, that's a pretty familiar name with Vanenbush. Uh Vienen all name, Tony Gruber, the Gruber name is uh uh just kind of keeps getting recycled all through Coleman. But I remember watching Tony. Uh it's just kind of funny now. I can I could picture at the Pulaski tournament watching Tony Gruber uh wrestle. Um Brad Markle, obviously big Marco name up there. But yeah, it's uh this this is uh nostalgic looking back at these.

SPEAKER_03 42:38

Zaren from Campbell's Port. I know the Zarans. I feel like I've familiarized that more with uh Toma. Another depe's of Random Lake. Uh Mike's daughter, Hannah Earth them. Pretty solid wrestler in her own right.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

Well, Dustin, uh Mike said Dustin and Chad are cousins. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 43:01

I'm loving the chat tonight. They're coming through bad. That's good stuff, yeah. Hey, Jeremy Brunkey of Athens. 8-4 victory over Dan Winkers from Fenimore. Judah. Not co-oped with Broadhead. Judah was its own program. How about Elmwood not co-oped with Spring Valley? They are with Plum City at this time. And uh Mashik, Mashik's pretty big name around here. And a Winker, there's a Cam Winkers that wrestled for Fenimore during their heyday. It's not like we're far removed from that, so maybe I shouldn't put it like that, but yeah. Steve, we also know Chad Misco, state champ from Lena. Uh, what do you have for this? Aside from I know you're loving the Athens championship.

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Well, Brad Clatwater, uh, he was brother. I think brothers, Parteville back in back then. They were just uh, I want to say between him and his brother. I can't remember if we we've covered him already. Maybe he's coming up. Between the two of them, I want to say they had five uh state medals. They just uh they were a tough out. I don't think they ever won a state championship, but they were just absolutely tough out. Uh Brunke was just, you know, you talk about earlier uh guys just winning on pure intimidation. Jeremy Brunkey was probably the one of the he could be the nicest guy in the world. I should talk to Craig uh Underwood about it or not, but Jeremy Brunkey just won mashes by walking out there. He just had a look of uh just a gaze, like a stare. And it was, I I just I remember thinking, man, I am so glad I'm not 135 pounds because if I wrestled that guy, he would absolutely kill me.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

In regards to the Venandals from Baldwin Woodville, uh, Dustin and Chad are cousins. On to Steve Nextway class is Steve D, you have a memory that's like amazing.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

You can uh remember people's dogs and their cats when they were sick, what vitamins they take, but you can't remember that I read that about four minutes ago.

SPEAKER_03 45:03

I'm yeah, no, I'm sorry. Steve, I I work with almost all girls. I've become really good at selective hearing. Thanks. Thanks, buddy. Did you not listen to me? Yeah, you're right. I didn't listen to you. Wait, hold on. Are you making are you saying I talk like that? No, I'm talking about my coworkers.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

Oh, gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

It's all love. I wouldn't trade any of that in the world. Uh I hope they don't listen. Uh Craig Schlocky in New Berlin, Eisenhower, four to three over another La Crosse Central wrestler, Brian Colburn. Great bracket, six to four, three to two in the semis. Good matches abound here.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

Uh are you on 140? Yeah. I'm sorry. Okay. Uh the year before state champion, Jesse Cudd from River Falls. So that's a pretty familiar name with up there. Um, I was looking through this. I remember uh Chris Astra. Um I thought it was anyway. I cannot remember how to say his last name. I thought it was one of those, I thought it was a I can't, man, it's killing me. But Chris, anyway, from Green May Preble East, he was one of those guys. I thought it was it's kind of one of those um uh Shirley type names or whatever that are are it's pronounced differently. Um I was I thought he was gonna win this weight class. He ended up uh having a tight quarterfinals, losing five to three. Who ended up losing two? Cook. Uh Jesse Cook of Merrill. Yeah, we ended up uh going on take fifth, but um, I just remember Chris very vividly because he and Jeremy Vanegren from Wrights Down would just have just battle after battle, and those two guys would wrestle, and it would be like two to one, but it'd be the most entertaining two to one match ever. Uh so I just uh I when I see that name, it's kind of like I'm sweating thinking about watching my teammate in the finals go against them.

SPEAKER_03 47:06

So oh, I'm glad Nate said something because I almost just brushed buttons. Declan Cook's dad, Jesse, from okay, you just brought, yeah, that's who we were talking about. Jesse. Jesse Cook. Assuming that's Declan's dad. And also Brian Herr brand of Sock Prairie. There's a Dylan Herr brand of Sawk. Pretty solid uh lower to middleweight wrestler for them during their prime in the 2010s. Glad we had Natan here to catch that one. That's right. Thanks, Nate. Going down at Division 2, 140-pound final. Oh my lord, they're all over the place. Matt Vandenbusch of Denmark, 8-0 over a Doug Clemens of Lodi.

SPEAKER_02 47:56

Yeah, and uh, you see the name Jeremy Kring. Obviously, we talked about Kings a couple times.

SPEAKER_03 48:01

I have been in Auburnale High School, and uh Auburndale, uh, how are they a D2 team?

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Oh, yeah, I didn't even realize that. That's crazy. Um, Jeremy and Nathan's uh can correct me, I think was a state champ the year before. So obviously, uh and it's kind of uh and Matt Vandenbush, obviously a state champ the year before. But uh um crazy. I now I look at this, how how loaded that weight class was.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

Yeah. And I also I think I'll answer my own Aubendale question here. Same thing with Lancaster, why they're D2 here and why they're D2 in track sometimes now. But when you see all these smaller programs or these smaller schools that just had their own program, naturally, of course, it's gonna push teams up. So right.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

Yeah. Um, funny story with Matt Vandenbush. He was uh he wrestled 140 uh as a senior, obviously won it this year. I think I wrestled him in eighth grade and we were about 130. So one of us grew, one of us did not. Um and I still remember that uh they posted the um back then in the newspaper, they would post out the uh honor roll for the area. And for whatever reason, right the week before conference, they they moved me, you know, I wrestled 171, they moved me to 140. So I was uh I was um in the in the rankings with Matt Vandenbush. So I show up, so I show up at conference on our on our uh warm-ups. We had you know the weight classes on, it'd say 106 or 103, whatever. Well, I I took um the 140-pound one and I wore it to the weigh-ins. So then when the weight they call 140 pounds, I I got in the line for the 140 pounds. Matt was not amused, and you know, no, I'm sorry, he he thought it was funny. He thought it was funny because this six-foot guy standing standing behind him in the weigh-ins. But the funny thing was is I didn't not want to wrestle 140 pounds because Matt Matt was uh Matt was a really good wrestler and he probably and very intelligent. He probably would have figured out a way to beat me.

SPEAKER_03 49:58

All right, some history here to see from the comments. So Krings, I guess that was a big upset loss in the first round. And uh Jeremy also goes by a punch. Mike O'Flanagan was my roommate during the where's the O'Flanagan at? O'Flanagan was the state. I was gonna say that.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

He's the state champ from the year before. Uh Flanagan, I believe, is a um um that's a Swedish name, if I if I remember right. I'm just kidding, it's supposed to be funny.

SPEAKER_03 50:30

Dustin, I I don't know if this is pre-Garrett Louny, Dustin, but Dustin's saying it was this the year Garrett Rowney got robbed in the finals. We shall see.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

Um, I want to say that was 95. 95, but I don't think this that's the year. This is the year.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

Oh there's literally a name, a move named after this guy, isn't there? Yes. Yeah, the state champ D3140. We have uh Mike Zinkowicz of Athens, five to three over Trevor Olsen from North Crawford. I don't know if they called it the Zinkowitch, but we called it the Zinkowitz.

SPEAKER_02 51:08

Okay, stay out of the Zinkowitz. Mike Zinkowicz literally would let a guy shoot in. He'd sit down on his butt and he would uh basically it's an elevator. You'd elevator him right over, and guys knew it was coming, and Mike would do it anyway, and he did it very well, obviously, obviously to a state championship.

SPEAKER_00 51:22

So nice job.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

And a 41-3 well exad 44-3 record uh as a senior. John Kindler, uh Amherst, 30 and 1. How did he do that year? Fifth place? No, he took fourth place. Um, that guy was a beast as well. You talk about the guy who knew the weight room and knew it well. Uh John Kindler. This particular year, if Amherst did not meet, they met, they met uh no, we had to wrestle Athens first round at at Team Sectional. Amherst, um, if if Athens was not in the way of them this year, they would have been at Team State and they would have done really well.

SPEAKER_03 51:59

I was gonna say, I feel like I've seen a healthy amount of Amherst on this program so far.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

Oh, I told you the story.

SPEAKER_03 52:08

Oh, go ahead. Yeah, sorry. No, you go. I forgot that you I don't know how I don't remember you wrestled Athens at Team Sectionals.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

Yeah, so we and I gosh, I do not remember the school it was at, but that was the second year of Team Sectionals. First year that they brought the four teams together on the Tuesday night. And uh, I was telling you that when we had Craig Underwood on, it was like it was we were there, Amherst was there, and I can't remember the third school that was there. And we're all sitting there, and Athens is not there yet, right? And I want to say it was John Kindler, maybe it was one of the Karpinsky boys. Um, and they uh were all kind of like waiting, where are they coming? You know, remember this is before social media, and it's like the folklore of Athens. All of a sudden, we're all sitting in the in the locker room waiting for them to come, and all of a sudden I just remember is Kindler or Karpinski, one of the boys comes running, they go, They're here.

SPEAKER_00 52:52

Everybody just showed up.

SPEAKER_02 52:53

And all of a sudden, Athens comes walking in, like they're like, they're not even walking, they're just like levitating. You know, it's like, oh my gosh, it was that uh crazy.

SPEAKER_03 53:04

Oh it's like the polter guy, they're here. Colfax its own program, and Steve, this would have been our biggest miss of the show. There is a Melton from Shell Lake. Shell Lake, Andrew, the sophomore. Going on to 140. Are we halfway through? Or I guess it's not halfway, but holy cow, man, we better get moving. Well, no, there's not. We're over halfway, I think. Sure. I swear, if this bar is from lacrosse central, and it is, wow. Chris Barr 4-1 of the La Crosse Central wrestler with the the victory over Jason Rowley from Verona.

SPEAKER_02 53:52

Yeah, looking through um looking at Bremmer, John Bremer T, could it be? Uh obviously you got some Bremers for Verona. Um, Chad Mole up top, wrestled him for a while at uh at Whitewater, still coaching in Burlington, coach uh coached by his dad, Don Mole. Um yeah, just looking through some names there. That's what I see.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

Used uh used to this name. It's got a little more recognition up north, but Jason Alerkey, Sheboygan South. Sure. Yep. And then Joel Jackson, Kenosha Bradford. I know there's uh it's Daryl and Josiah Jackson both wrestling for a Bradford right now. So assuming that name's in the family. Yep. That's what I got on this one. Dustin Wood. Yes, he beat me up in semis. Oh, hey, Dustin. Dustin, glad to have you tuned in from New London. D1 New London, mind you.

SPEAKER_02 54:51

Okay. Is that where Dustin's talking about? Yep. Oh, yeah, there he is. Okay. And oh, he's talking about Chris Barr.

SPEAKER_03 55:01

Okay, gotcha. D2, 145, two Richland Center champs this year, Steve. Aaron Siraki of Richland Center, 10-9 over Pat Nock from Westfield.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Man, so many names here. Pat Nock ended up coaching at uh, gosh, I want to say Pat was a state champ one year. Maybe not, but he ended up being uh one of the Knock Boys was a coach for Westfield, went on to coach there. Um Siraki Teague was a big Greco guy. Um later on. I remember following him. I want to say Olympic trials, maybe made the Olympics or not. Somebody can correct me on that one, but he was big into the the Greco scene. So yeah, some big big names on this one. John Hammond, Little Shoot, oh man, is Scott still on here? Did John Hammond? Oh, is this the Hammonds from Kakana? No, well, that I don't know. I want to say I thought um Little Chute had a state champ, and I thought it was John Hammond, but uh I could be wrong in that one. Uh maybe it's a couple years later, but John Hammond was a really good wrestler as well.

SPEAKER_03 56:09

And a Jason Hahn, St. Croix Falls. I do believe Caden is his younger son. Hey, we're going to D3 in perfect timing for a Sheriff Bieber cameo in the comments. Go Cougars. Ah, Cougars.

SPEAKER_02 56:28

Hey, Matt for Beaton. Matt, you should be commenting all day long on this one. Really well help.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

All right, D3. Uh, I gotta track through what is going on? Where's all right? Oh, Travis Olson from Benton. 13-6 over Andy McGowan from Darlington. And Steve, look at this. Watch it from Cedar Grove. I just uh I was good friends with the Watry in college, but Shaner from Stratford, and then a shortest from a Turtle Lake, and another Amherst wrestler.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Okay, yep, that was it. Trisha and Trisha, I think that was uh 1995, if I remember right. Lamers was a state champ for a little shoot. Going back to the previous one. Sorry, Teague, were you done? Yeah, I'm good now. You you cook. Um, well, hey, a lot of good ones in this one. Um, where'd it go? Mike Watry, brother Scott was a state champ in 1992, wrestled with Scott at uh at Whitewater. Um But Z and Teague, this was back in the day. This was uh pre-hair being able to be long. I remember seeing, I think there were brothers. They had they had the long hair, had to wear the shower caps, but strong, strong wrestlers uh in their own right. And then uh Shortis was a medalist, a good wrestler was a medalist the year before, beat uh uh Jeremy Venegrin from Wright's town in a match as well. Man, oh man, Teek, this is uh these are a lot of fun to look at.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

Yeah, we we are getting into your realm here, Steve. We are already age-wise, but now uh now weight-wise, inch and closer. Uh 152, I before I even say the the champ, but love the last name, St. Louis, Brandon from O'Connell. Oh, sure. Hey, this guy's in on our show or our comments every once in a while. The champ from Antigo as Kid Wrestles now for Antigo. We have Todd Stimmick winning 9-7 over Dennis Wazley of Holman. Uh, Steve, is that a familiar name?

SPEAKER_02 58:36

Wazley from where I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to catch up here, Tegan. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 58:42

Dennis Wazley went to Holman.

SPEAKER_02 58:44

Yeah. But his kids wrestled for St. Croix Central. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:54

Also in this bracket. Oh, there's our boy. Not our boy, I guess, but Eric Swick. Kelmoraine freshman. Oh my lord, Steve. His only loss at the state tournament was to Stimic from Antigo. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 59:11

Who went on to be a state champ. That is crazy. You know what's crazy about that? Is um T got to meet Eric and he was just awestruck.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 59:24

Oh, okay. So uh Stimmock is a great uncle to Joe. All right. Wow. Bremer, Wazley, Ruppert, all first cousins.

SPEAKER_02 59:36

Yeah, and in a great story here, Jason Modder, Kakana, right? And this is pre-Kakana like walking on water. Well, not walking on water, but taking a few steps before they sink. But Jason Modder, 16-6, ends up making the semifinal. Actually, takes third place going and take a look at that. So crazy, crazy.

SPEAKER_03 59:55

Jim Wykes of Merrill. I know there's a Wykes that wrestle. I think it's Cody Wykes that wrestled for Marshfield. So maybe a little move down south for the Merrill grad. Jeff Rickard, I think Jeff coaches or coached for Sparta for a little bit. Is Eric at 152 related to the Swick kid, that Lancaster wrestled? Yes. Eric is a Lincoln Swick's father.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:18

Correct. I kind of walk.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:22

Going down. D2. Oh, I thought this was gonna be Brad Bay, but Ben Baker. Oh, Lancaster, the flying arrow. Five to one victory over a John Severson of Mostin. Dang.

unknown 1:00:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:41

Oh, this must be the why can I not think like Tim Hartung from Duran Pet. The name Hartongue just uh it rings a big bell, Steve.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

Yeah, um Hartung is a Minnesota. Um Minnesota coach or something. I don't know if somebody could correct me on that. Is that the is that am I getting that right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:04

Okay. So maybe that's the relation. Uh where's where's our boy at? Mike, you gotta you gotta confirm this. Dustin said that he uh that he uh ducks Wick the following two years. Ted, this is wild knowledge. Craig Wiedemeyer, currently the president of Werner Electric Supply in Appleton. Go Craig.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:31

Is that the same? Mike's saying two time now. Is that the same, Tim? I I don't know, Steve. This is this is your I know. I should, you know, I had to follow D1 college as well. I mean, we didn't have as good as social media back then. I barely even knew who the badgers were at the back that particular time, Teague.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

Uh anything else from D2 here, Steve? Morgan Bay action. Yep, nope, we're good. Oh, yeah, hard tongue, national champ at heavyweight. Okay, so a bit of a growth spurt for him. I want to do a senior year in college. That's a different one, Team. That can't be the same one. Come on. Oh my gosh. Okay. D3. We have Darren Haum from Cameron. 3-1 over Doug Shellvold of Darlington. I know there's Shellvoles that are kind of loose relation to Charlie Might. And oh, there's Geigers in different divisions wrestling. Ryan Geiger from Loyal, who's now co-op with Nielsville Greenwood. And this team, Steve, not even a part of a program right now. Seneca. See some Seneca representation at the bottom of the bracket.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

Yeah, Doug, uh, Doug went up and have a good, he had a good uh career. I want to say, I know he played football for Whitewater. I think he did pretty well there. So didn't go the the wrestling, uh the wrestling route, so to speak. Travis Krieger, two of the Krieger brothers from Gillet. Um, just tough, tough dudes, band. You talk about guys that knew the weight room. That was Travis and Jeremy, I believe. We'll I think we'll see Jeremy in a little bit here. So, yeah, just uh some great names to talk about. A lot of chatter going on, Teague. It is the same one. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:23

Yeah, Gillet, its own program, Montello, its own program here. Yeah, a lot of a lot of hard tongue conversation, Steve. And hard tongue did lose his first match to Severson and ended up placing fifth. Going down at 160 pounds. Scroll back out here so we can catch all the division names. Okay, that's not. What's up? Are you are you just in on the names, yeah. Yeah. All right. Sam Marcel, Sheboygan, a lot of Sheboygan. Sam Marcel, Sheboygan North, five to three victory over. Zach Bond, a Fondalak.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:17

I I remember that final. Um Zach Bond was a lot of fun to watch. Got to see him throughout the year. And I can't remember specifically what happened to the end, but I remember being uh a tight match, great match to watch. And what other name I wanted to talk about? Oh, Van Lannon. Obviously, Van Lannon uh up in our area is a is a big name, and I know, gosh, was it Jesse? And maybe the commenters can let us know, but I know Bayport did have a Van Lannon State Champ, so I'm not quite sure if it was that one uh later on.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:48

So I also, yeah, there's a Van Lannon with a different spelling too, and I think there it's I had some question marks on that one as well. Hey, by the way, everyone, we uh we we've always had fan mail that you can see on the links for our podcast. Now we can reply to your fan mail, and you can leave us voicemails as well. So I think we might make that a part of our show at some point going forward. And play people's questions and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

That would be cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:23

Yeah. Yep. Mike, Sheboygan is where Dennis Hall was training at the time. Okay, well, that that checks out. Explains why Sheboygan was doing well. Gotcha. All right, that's all I got from 160 D1.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:40

Yeah, 160 D2 to see in Land. That was crazy, right? You see Lancaster up in Division 2. Well, well, here we go.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:49

Familiar name, Jeremy Ott, Chilton. Pin in a 550. I need more context on that one. Over Boone Smith from Freedom. That's a heck of a name right there.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

Boone Smith. Yeah, Boone was a um two-time. Gosh, was he a two-time state runner-up? I think he took uh I know he's a medals as a sophomore. So the crazy story with that teague is Boone and Jeremy. Um, I'm pretty sure they wrestled at Regionals, and I think it kept flipped on. I think Jeremy won at Regionals. Uh Boone won at sectionals, and then Jeremy won at state. So that was a pretty good rivalry. And then the cool thing is they both went to Parkside and were teammates. So it's a fun little story with that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:35

And uh tell me if you know this one, Steve. Trent Peterson from St. Croix Falls. I bet that guy had to get himself a state title at some point. Team's very familiar with his son. I'm guessing Trent wasn't a bad cradler back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:55

Jeremy Ott could arm drag a horse.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

Oh that is a good one.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:02

I like that. D3. We have uh Sean Ang of Athens, the sophomore at 160, 246, over Joe Raymond, Cambria Friesland Randolph.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:20

Yeah. That was uh uh so just talking real quick. Jeremy Krieger was the one uh brother we talked about his brother earlier on from Gillet. He ended up wrestling at T. Here's a crazy one for you. I ended up going on and wrestling at Stout for a few years before they lost their program. Um, you got another Gable Gobel, depending on how you say it, based on where we are in the state. That's from uh Darlington. Um, most people remember this, and my old geezers on here are gonna remember, but Sean Aynes, just a small sophomore at 160, three-time state champ. And T, you talk about a guy who could fill a stadium. That was this guy, because it was uh um his sophomore, his junior and senior year, and I know I've told you this several times, but he wrestled 189, and literally people would sit in the stands and they'd wait for him. Everybody knew what he was gonna do. He was gonna throw a headlock. People tried to avoid it, but it was inevitable. Inevitable, as soon as he threw it, the whole crowd went, ooh, and then all you saw was the mass exodus, because that at that particular time, I'm sorry to say, a lot of a lot of people left before heavyweight. Um, and uh they would just wait and wait and wait around to see Sean Ainge uh throw his headlock, and uh there it was. So he was uh he was an intimidating creature. I I need to get some Sean Ainge tape at some point. And and I Craig um Craig corrected it. I I thought it was I've always said Ainge, but I think it's Angie is what uh yeah, which uh a little egg on my face in that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:56

Couple of comments to address here. Sorry for pronouncing homie wrong. And uh Steve, just while we're on the Athens roll here, someone commented way earlier that uh that the Athens uh coaches at U-State dressed like Jerry Wagner. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. There's gotta be a photo of that somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:23

That would that would be nobody I'll tell you what, that that that's people would sit and watch those two coaches because they they would sit in their chairs and they wouldn't move. They wouldn't they wouldn't really say anything. Every now and then they'd clap their hands together, every now and then they smile or rub their face, but that's pretty much all they did. There wasn't uh, I think Craig Enderwood said it best. He said, Yeah, they did their coaching in the room, and when it came to tournament time or match time, they just let their kids do what they needed to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:47

So a couple of questions answered from the chat. Did uh Eric Swick and Sean Angie wrestle? And did Sean end up going to wrestle at Oklahoma State?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:58

Yeah, Mike, I don't know your question about Swick and uh Sean, but uh yeah, uh Sean did go wrestle at OSU. I'm not quite sure how it uh went down there, but I know he was uh recruited to go wrestle there.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:11

Going down 171 pounds. Steve, we gotta be getting pretty close to never mind.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:19

Yeah, just be quiet.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:24

Oh boy. Sorry, far, sorry, not bad zoom. No, you're good. Trotzer. Oh, yes. Okay, champ, Jeremy Becker, a West Bend West, two to one victory over Brent Ryland, Fondilac. Tough final session for Fondy this year. Uh Becker, I wonder if that's any relation to the Becker boys. Of course, Nick coaching at Parkside. And other names. Well, Mike Spa, I just happen to know there's a Parker Spa that plays football for Holman. Maybe some relation there. You already brought up Trotzer, Steve, Tubbs, I think we brought up. And yeah, that's what I there's a Welch from Waukeshaw South. I don't know if that ended up reaching Athens or not, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:19

Yeah, well, we brought yeah, we brought up Tubbs because I told you the story with uh when we had um oh yeah, he went to I went to the Badger Wrestling Camp. Remember I told the story with Andy Tubbs sneaking off to State Street downtown?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:32

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:34

Yeah, so that was that one. I won't relive that one. That was a longer story. Um Doug Vaughn, good wrestler. Steve Anderson, I want to say that's the guy who went on and re and coached a few years for O'Connor Lock. Um yeah, Andy Tubbs had a really good career career at uh Parkside as well. He was a state finalist the next year.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:59

D2! Well, they printed this one a little slanted.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:06

Yeah, you know what? It's 1993, those things happen.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:10

Wow, New Auburn. Haven't seen New Auburn as part of a wrestling program in a while. But Joe Burgess, Bloomer New Auburn, brought home a state title with the 10-3 victory over Matt Manders of D2 to Pier.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:27

Yeah, um Matt's a good good kid. He he and I had a little bit of a rivalry being close. We wrestled at a couple tournaments, uh, little shoot finals and Oshkosha on the water finals. Um he and uh Matt Manders end up being a state champ as a as a senior, same weight class. So good uh good wrestler for De Pier. Trying to think uh sorry, I got caught in reading uh Troy's long message.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:52

So yeah, no, that one was fun. Right. I got a couple things here. Uh Newton from Baldwin Woodville, another Baldwin Woodville wrestler. Hine from Jefferson, Steve, you know better than me, but I do think there's a hind that has wrestled for Jefferson recently.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:10

Yeah, his son, uh probably oh, son during the COVID year, I remember because I was there, wrestled, and I want to say he took uh fourth, maybe fifth. I know he was a medalist.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:22

Joe Burgess, toughest nice kid ever. And also, isn't there uh there's a was there a Ryland Hind that wrestled for Fort Atkinson?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:30

Uh yes. Yep. Oh yeah, I never looked into the uh really I huh. It's funny that you just say that, and now um now that just hit me.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:39

The story from Troy that his senior teammate was excited to wrestle Sean Angie. Yeah. Well, that's before social media, Steve, so you don't know how good a freshman is. You just know they're a freshman.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:53

Right. Yeah. Well, typically back in that time, when you're a freshman, you walk in and you you know you look like I did. You look like a Tootsie Pop. You had a big old head and a real skinny body, and everybody thought, hey, freshman, fresh meat.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:07

That's great. Going down. Oh, to answer Sean Oktoberg's or reply to him. I think Sean, maybe Swick and Angie wrestled just not in the postseason. They were different divisions, but very good chance they may have wrestled somewhere else. Division into three, 171 pounds. We'll just cut through the championship here quick. Melrose Mendoro before Melman GT was a thing. Yep. Tony Fisher, three-to-one victory over Matt Schneider of a Waterloo. And who is that, folks? Maybe the reason we did this whole show, that indeed is our very own Mr. Steve Workman of Wrightstown. Oh my god. Down there at the bottom of the bracket.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:57

Yeah, that was painful. Painful. Well, Steve, you have any notes on this one? Uh well, Rhett Reichart was the state champ from Brilliant the year before. Maybe I'll just try to sidetrack it a little bit. Um, yeah, Matt Schneider was a two-time state runner up, ended up wrestling for the Badgers for for a few years. Another Athens guy who uh actually I lost two at the sectional, lost two at the team sectional and sectional, so couldn't quite figure that guy out. But uh he was he was he was a he just I tell you what, he knew how to stop my double leg, and then he just kind of waited there patiently and blocked and blocked and blocked and then uh spun around me. And I tell you what, he was he was pretty good. I really don't remember to watch him Tony Tony wrestle. Uh Chris McCall. Obviously, you can see on the backside I wrestled that guy. I have never gotten ridden before. I think that guy has a future, had a future in bull riding. Um, and obviously that first round. But yeah, it's uh all I'll tell you this, Teague, is I'm just gonna throw this out there that if these eight guys, well, seven other ones want to get together and re-wrestle this bracket, I'm pretty confident that I won't go 0-2.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:03

Well, we we we we need to make it happen before uh before uh April 14th.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:15

Sure. No, well, at before April 14th, or give me six months, because I tell you what, I'm gonna come out with a flurry.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:22

The big question is who wins? 1992 Steve Lurquin, or uh we'll say 2018 Teague Fenwick, when I was close to 170.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:33

Oh, gotcha. Well, we won't we won't go into that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:36

We don't need to go down that rabbit hole. Well, we'll let's say one of us wrestled in college and one of us was a four-time regional qualifier.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:45

Yeah, I I will say this. It's like uh, you know, as I look back at that, and it's uh I don't know, it's how many years ago, and it's still kind of like, oh man, and uh it it it is funny though, we we talk about it, and I tell kids this all the time like, man, sometimes you don't really grow into yourself until you're out of high school. Like, I I I really didn't develop and become, I think, a good wrestler until I got to college. So it's like, man, if you got the urge and the um the desire to wrestle and to get better at the next level, go do it, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:17

Well, Steve, I was kind of a late bloomer myself. I gained 20 pounds between the ages of 30 and 31. So right, yeah, because you said my parents' scale was broke. I thought, yep, I stand by it. All right, 189. Is this the penultimate weight class?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:38

It is, yep, 189.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:41

Hey, we're making great wow, time flies. We're not making great time, but we're having a fun time.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:48

All right, 189 D1. Pronunciation, Lords, help me. Chad Bembenick from Bayport. Bembenick. Bembenick. Yep. Tenno over Cole Slayby at Wisconsin Rapids.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:05

Yeah, Chad went on to wrestle at Stevens Point. Uh, did pretty well there. So good job to Chad. Mike Kreblin from Watertown, other uh gosling. I wrestled with Mike a couple years ago, actually, all four years at uh Whitewater.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:19

I don't, yeah, I'm sorry. I don't have much here.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:23

No, it's it's sometimes you get those weight classes. Chaplin Benick was a um he was good. He was uh he was intimidated, obviously 35, well, 39 and all. He was uh he was a tough dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:35

By default, would you say like if after going through these brackets, Steve, do you think this makes us like in the 95th percentile of knowing 1993 Wisconsin wrestling?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:48

95th percent. Oh, we were probably well, yes, I'll just say that. Absolutely. Because uh to be honest with you, T, you would be surprised even to this day how many people just they don't they don't know much outside their either their division, their weight class, whatever it is. That's or their regions.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:07

Oh no, I'm aware. I'm somewhat aware. All right, 189 pounds. Wow, a couple of throwback names, but Jeff Birschbach at Campbellsport, yeah, eight to six over Dan Casillas from Bigfoot Williams Bay, and there's a Dela Brew in this bracket, Steve. He had the place for six and uh Lurkey, Lurke from uh Wy Week of Fremont. I think there's a Lurkey either wrestling for them now or graduated for them recently.

unknown 1:19:41

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:42

Hey, Abby Colby was still a program back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:46

Yeah, a few names, obviously. Yeah, Lurkey, kind of crazy. I think there was a um names that are still coming through Wy We go Fremont, but there was a 106-pound state champ for with the last name of Lurkey. So quite a bit of difference there in size. Uh Birschbach, this is a great wrestler, went under lacrosse, and I think gosh, I'm pretty confident All-America in there. And Jeff did he got into the WIA wrestling refing world. Uh, he was really good. I don't know what happened family-wise, whatever, as far as not continuing with that, but uh uh just a great wrestler. Uh Maro Trafficante from Poinette. He was uh uh teammate with mine of mine at Whitewater. Uh pretty darn good wrestler in his own right. Kind of kind of cool. I wrestled 171, he wrestled uh 89. I gained a bunch of weight, he lost a bunch of weight. We were kind of he was supposed to wrestle 190. I was probably gonna wrestle like 177 somewhere around there, and we well, we just flipped. He lost some baby fat, and I well, I fell in the weight room.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:45

Birschbach, Oskosh on the water champion per the octopus.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:50

Yes, he was. Yes, he was. I think he was a two-timer. 1992, I think, or 91 or 92 is the first year they had on the water.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:59

DJ DJ Delabrew is Jamie Luxembourg Casco a middle school coach. There it is. Is there a relation to Caleb? Yeah, hey, thanks for coming through, Jamie. Yeah, Brian State Champ at 103 for Wyowega. Uh, we got some good history buffs here. I'm I'm enjoying this. Oh, Steve, you're gonna have to tell me where is Marion located? That's is that by Princeton?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:25

Um, no, it's on on your way to it's like Bon Noel. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's near if you Highway 29, Teague, the beautiful road that you you went on, kind of that area.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:36

I gotta say, Unity and D2. I know a lot of smaller schools are up there from what we're used to, but seeing Unity and D2 is probably one of the bigger shocks for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:46

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:47

Hey D3, 189. Greg Anderson, Riverdale, 14 to 10. The Barn Burner of the Year in 93 over Adam Ellenbecker of Athens. Chase has been awaiting an hour and a half for this. And uh wow, that had to have been a fun Steve 24 points in old school scoring at 189. The the bodies must have been flying.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:18

Well, let me quick take a look. Anders, so is Anderson and who's on the bottom side? Oh, is that uh Adam? Yeah, you talk about uh, I think someone said before um Chad Marcone was kind of like uh underrated for Athens. I think Adam, same thing. You look at that record 3, 4, and 1. Remember, um, you don't see a lot, 11 win guys make the or 11 lost guys make the finals, but that was Athens was seeking competition. They were going out of state, and I think Craig said they wrestled in the did they wrestle in the Iron Man Teague, if I remember right. I think so. So a lot of those were solid losses. So it's just crazy when you see 11 guy win guy, lost guy in the finals. Um, I remember uh Chris Malter, coach, he became the head coach at Houston for a while. Uh Tony Malug, hopefully I'm saying his last name right from Marion. That guy back in the day, he you talk about all a middle linebacker with no neck, just a solid, solid dude. That was Tony. I just remember him bouncing around the mat, and there was guys, he would just snowplow guys and be like, all right, I'm just gonna push you over, knock you down, and that's how he beat you. And that was Tony. And I think he ended up going on, and yeah, he took fifth place, lost first round, to the state champ, and then uh ended up winning fifth place.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:34

Yeah, but obviously preceding era that we have here. So I'm sure there's just some star-studded quarterfinals. Uh again, every match has to be pretty good. I can imagine, Steve, sectional finals just had to have been even somehow more gut-wrenching than it used to be, than it is now. I mean. Oh, back then? Yeah. With like just how good the wrestling was.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:57

Yep. Um, they would uh so they they adjusted the barn twice. They would have four mats for the quarters, and then Friday night they they would go three mats. They would uh they'd break it down to three mats, and then the next morning, Saturday, they'd go back to four mats, and then they'd break it down again for the finals, so they'd have three match. So yeah, it was uh it was pretty it was it was fun. It was good. It was pretty much three match for the semifinals.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:22

That is crazy work.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:24

Yeah, it was it was good, and um, I tell you what, it's like obviously we're never going back to the barn, but it was you were on top of the action and just could feel it, you could smell it.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:37

275, our last weight class. Dave Garretsen of Sparta pinning 355 over Ben Guerrera of uh Ben Guerra, sorry, of Janesville, a Parker. Gotta give a shout out to your Franklin boys, uh Nick Valley of Franklin, making his way into the quarterfinals and uh Marcos Frederick of Waukeshaw North. That uh that might be the same Marcos Frederick that I coached his kid at Holman, and uh we worked at Ultra together for a little bit. Also a ring hand from Fondlec. There's a ring hand that wrestles for DeForest, and there's a I think it's just straight up Ben Guerra that wrestles for uh Burlington as well. That's what I got here, Steve.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:22

Yeah, Ben wrestled a few years at Whitewater, so got to be teammates with the immigrant guy. Never seen never seen a guy smile more than Ben. Everything you said to him just got the the Ben the Ben grin. So it was it was fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:34

Oh, mommerts from Okan Milwaukee. Is there another Mom Mommerts Momerz? Sorry. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:44

Yeah, Mike said uh during the semis and the finals, it felt like the crowd was on top of you. Absolutely. It was uh sure did. It was uh it was sweet times back then.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:53

I'm just thinking that semifinal session had to be somewhat long. Six matches per weight class with three mats. Yeah, it was just long in general, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:03

I mean, that's just the way it was. That's just you had to deal with it.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:06

Oh, yeah, not complaining. Like, I bet that's just that was just a fun round. Now it feels like the Kentucky Derby almost. Right, it's fast. Hey, we have an Amory State champion here at 275. And Dave Pieper. What's up?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:21

Oh, I'll say I I think uh um I think that's kind of why I knew people more back then, right? Because you you saw them all. Where now you can watch, I mean, you have so many match right now with eight, and the semifinals are going so fast. It's uh you can miss matches, right? Where back then you didn't miss any, and you'd be like, oh, that's why I remember that guy. That's why I remember that guy. You know, and it's uh it's pros and cons, right? Uh you I think you got more into people around the state, and you got you felt closer to them, right? Where now, you know, it happens so fast you can you can you can miss a good semifinal match.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:54

275. Got Piper of Amory and uh Steve Loopdow from Elkhorn, six to five. Peeper gets the victory over D2 Elkhorn wrestler. Steve, tell me if you heard this one before. There's a Seafelt in Coleman.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:16

Yeah, there sure is. Yeah, division two, crazy, crazy. Um trying to look, not a lot I have commenting for this. I just had to do a little quick shout-out. Sorry, I was quite lost in the comments. Uh Robert Lulling made a comment from Marshall. And going back, I I should have given a shout-out because uh uh I'm good friends with Jason Brunel. Kind of introduced me to Robert, so I got to know Robert over the years, but that's back. He was the guy that faced Sean Angie uh first round and at uh uh oh no, that's Paul. I apologize, Robert. That was Paul. Okay, so younger brother, younger brother, but uh uh anyway, the Lullings uh just good dudes, and I just want to give that shout out to Robert before he uh if he was getting Getting off air. So I don't have a lot to add for uh 275 Division 2. Robert, thanks for the love, by the way. Yeah, we appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:08

Yeah, and I do really enjoy this. And you know, we'll just recycle it like 20 years down the road after we go through all of them. But I gotta say, I'm guessing Jeff Seafeld Steve, and then the I missed saying it at the weight class, and then the gable from Darlington a few weight classes back. I'm guessing they were just built, uh, both built like just brick walls, would be my guess. Based on what we know about the gables and seafelts of the new age. Hey, there's a there's a Quinlan, but he goes to Plattville, so definitely uh not like a son of John, because John spent a lot of his time over on the east side of the state. And a division.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:51

Our last weight class, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:55

Perry Miller of a brilliant pin in 320 over John Melvin from Somerset.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:06

Another Melvin up in the north, the northwest. Yeah, another wrestler, Matt Merrill from Athens. Um trying to find a couple more names there than I know, but um, crazy story, Perry Miller. You talk about an undersized, I mean he he he was a smaller heavyweight, ended up becoming a large man in college. And Perry was a two-time national champ uh for Stevens Point. So you talk about another guy who kind of, you know, you don't want to say late bloomer because he was a state champ, but he was only just peaking right there as a senior, went on his college level and uh hit the next level. Or uh um just really grew more as a wrestler and an individual, right? But Teague Perry, if you remember right, he was the uh the trivia fact I gave you when you were. Oh, is he the last state champion for Berlin? So Brilliant had a who is who's brilliant state champ this year, Teague?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:57

Uh uh 152. Oh my gosh. Uh 150 or 157. It's this is embarrassing.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:07

Well, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:07

Don't come to you, but but crazy story, keep going. You keep talking.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:11

Yeah. Um Colton Williams. Yep, there we go. Kluge. They've had all kinds of amazing, great wrestlers. They've had guys in the finals year after year, but um just go and win it. Perry Miller in 1993 was the last state champ before Kluge won it this year.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:28

Good stuff. Well, that's what we got, Steve. About an hour and a half on the dot. So nice work by us. And want to thank the chat. They uh you guys rocked it. Yes. I think so. Mike's asked if we're gonna do 94. My gameplay, because we jumped around. We did 2011. I don't know why we did 2011 first, but it was it was a good time. And we'll probably jump, maybe we do like mid-2000s or something, which could be scary because that's right between our wheelhouses, but try to get different decades. I think 1995, Steve, has to be on the docket after that, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:11

1995 will be good. I I think T we should do like an early 2000s. I was coaching then and probably have a good knowledge base of some of the guys, so I think it'd be good.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:20

Oh, yeah, early 2000s for sure, and then 1995. We're not gonna go year by year. You know, maybe would it be beneficial if we did that? Sure, but that's not how we roll. So yeah, 1990. We we can add 94 to the queue. The goal is just as it is to get all the four-timers, probably end up hitting all these at some point. And now that we're trying to be more active in the quote unquote off season, that you know, very well could happen. Mike, you missed 103. Embarrassing.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:55

Oh, oh T, I forgot to talk about my merch. I got uh I've been wanting to wear this one for a while, so I threw on the old Union Union Grove Wrestling shirt. So I apologize for not getting that shot up.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:05

Shout out to the rug fam for hitting us up with that. I didn't wear a shirt on this one, I didn't know what we'd be getting viewership-wise. So uh I uh I just went with the sweatshirt, but yeah. 45 people still tuned in in April. Well, maybe I'll get back on the merch grind myself because I have quite a cue to go through. Steve, anything else before I uh wrap us up?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:29

No, Jason's saying, yeah, do the COVID year. Yeah, absolutely. I think those those guys got robbed um for recognition, so we will definitely uh we'll look we'll look at doing it. But yeah, I uh Tigue, when you had this idea last year, I was kind of like, ah, I don't know, but doing it it's a lot of fun. I I like this. So and I and obviously from the chat and this many people tuning in, they like it too.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:50

Well, yeah, thank you everyone for uh tuning in. It was a fun show. We'll be back. I think the plan is to have Kent Weiler on our show next. Next week. And uh everyone, send your best wishes to Stevo as he gets hip surgery. So you'll probably be watching a lot of wrestling, looking at a lot of brackets, so maybe he'll be the new trivia master in a month. We'll see. But thanks everyone for tuning in, and until next time, we will catch you on the flip side.