2006 Individual State Recap

Teague and Steve are joined by Curtis Fiedler for a trip back in time to look at all of the brackets from Individual State in 2006!

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SPEAKER_02 0:07

Welcome to the Wisconsin Wrestler Podcast with your co-host Teak Fenwick and Steve Lurkwood.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of the Wisconsin Wrestler Podcast. I'm your host, Teak Fenwick, coming to you live from Holman. Joining me, as always, from Koshkinong, my co-host, Steve Lurquin. Steve, great to be here.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Pumped to be here, Teague. This is gonna be a fun one.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

I uh, you know, Steve, we we say a lot of these episodes are our favorite episodes, but man, something about the old state recaps. It's just uh they are fun.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

I don't do a lot of prep for them, and then I think I'm not gonna have anything to say. And I just look through the first two brackets that we're gonna do, and I I'll have I'll have things to add, but I might not need to because man, when you get the host we're or the guest we have on today, I I don't need to say a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

And Steve, he is called the mouth of the south for a reason, for good reason at that. But pumped it. We texted him because this was a non-negotiable. We're gonna do 2006. We had to get him on because I know he'd have plenty of good stuff to say. Introducing our guest big recurring guest status now. I think what four or five times, Curtis.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

This has to be hold on. I want to say four or five between sectional previews or preseason previews, and then just I don't I must be.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Uh state coach twice, state championship coach twice. So and like three sectional previews, three sectional previews, and then we've gotten them on randomly just for something or other here and there.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

So well, it wouldn't be a proper introduction of Curtis, and it'd be disrespectful to Scott Schmitz if we did not introduce him as the most unathletic two-time state champion in WIA history. Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

I I think you asked him the same thing, but I was doing the Klinas Mineral Point broadcast, and I was with Scott, who's he's awesome, by the way. He's the man of few words, but when he speaks, it's really good. Curtis said, I'm sure he had too much to do to go back to listen, but I specifically asked him about that, and he said, you know, T asked me the same question. He goes, I don't really remember saying that.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Or if I did, I just don't let him fool you. Don't let him fool you at all.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Oh, I love it. And fellas, I did like Scott's response when I said, Scott, how many? I think I said how many conference championships you have, or whatever. And he goes, you know, I I don't really remember, but I tell you what, I can tell you every one of my kids' names that ever wrestled for me. And I was like, that was a that was a great answer. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

You you ask a lot of people around this community. He's a he's a second father to a lot of us. So uh, and rightfully so. He's he's one of the good ones, man. And it's too bad that you know I don't really see him that often anymore, simply outside of like big tournaments, or if he's showing up for something. He uh he's enjoying retirement like right now, and rightfully so. So as he should.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Well, fellas. One more question, Curtis. What's uh mineral point? What's the magic number this year for you guys being a victim of your own success? What is what is that?

SPEAKER_00 3:59

The performance factor? Yes. Uh we're at we're at five at the moment, so one and we're up, baby.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Is that a sectional final?

SPEAKER_00 4:10

That would be uh Team State qualifier.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

Team State. Are you and Fenomore ever gonna be in the same division ever again? Because Fenomore goes down, don't they?

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Fenomore's got one more year up at D2 this year. Uh and you know whatever happens this year, hope we we hopefully have have enough uh bullets in the gun to accomplish what we want this year. Um it it if that happens, you know, we'll see. We'll see. It's been a minute since we've uh we still do we still have them at conference, obviously, so it's not like we aren't gonna see them, but uh I imagine it'll it'll happen at some point.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

The the world's uh the wrestling world in Wisconsin's a better place with Fenmore and Mineral Point in the same division. Battling out. You know, I wish like I wish you and Ryan Allen hated each other a little bit more. You guys like each other too much. Like, you know, like you guys, you guys, the kids on the mat, they duke it out and you can tell they what they want to win, but it's like you and Ryan, we gotta figure out how to get you guys to hate each other or something.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

I don't think it'll actually the problem is I'm I'm in that boat where I do not, I say this with love with to Ryan, I do not ever want to make him angry simply because well, I mean, it's uh for obvious reasons. He's a mountain, he's a three-time natty champ, and uh he's still he can still handle himself just fine.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

Yeah, no, I think he I think he could hold his own on the mat still. Fellas, we we have 42 brackets to look through. And either way, apologies again. Steve and I have been very late this summer, but I think that's just the the dog days taking over. Curtis also had to drive through a tornado to get here to make this happen. So, Curtis, we do appreciate you for coming on.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

Middle point was out of power, so pray for everybody in Middle Point.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Yeah, I had uh I had to hop up at my parents' house who wasn't out of power because I went to the school, they're out of power. I went my place is out of power, so I came here and uh yeah, don't say I never did anything for you guys. Are you closer to the town of Linden now or what? Nope. I would be I uh I'd be closer. Well, I mean, we're still in town. I I would say it's more towards Dodville or uh or uh Hollandale, I'd say.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Okay, okay. I'll still never forget that I drove through a town called Mifflin, which I still think might have been a fever dream, but blinking you miss it, man. Well, fellas, we're gonna take a time machine back to 2006, and it it's not too far away. Like there, I think we're we're gonna see some names. They might have some kids coming up through uh the ranks now. It's uh it's not so far away where it's like the gas price is like 250 or something like that. I can't do like the cool like, oh, this was the state of the world at the time. Uh also a lot of things have changed since 2006. One of the big changes, Steve, you want to guess who this stud is. Nice. That's wow. Unbelievable. I don't even recognize him. Straight from the Mineral Point Hall of Fame page. Curtis Fiedler with the full head of hair.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Yeah, that's uh boy. It's a lot easier to deal with now, balding. I'll tell you that much, but uh, I do miss it.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Uh guys, uh it's like Steve said, I did a little glimpse through at this first two, and there's like some names that that I recognize. Uh I'm sure as we dive more in depth on this, things are just gonna keep popping out. And I really like seeing like all the like, especially smaller teams. Now we're individual or not co-opt, or we're actually teams back in the day. I we have a lot of stories to tell, 42 brackets to get through. I always like seeing the numbers on this because summer numbers aren't always popping, but whenever we do these, it's like as we go through. I'm guessing people are shooting text off like, hey man, they're talking about you on a show right now. And it's uh, you know, something about opening the yearbook and the boys just talking old sports. It just uh it makes my

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heart happy. So let's do it. D1 103. I'll say the finals, I'll go through my observations and then fellas, however you want to run it, we'll we'll get through it. 103 pounds. We do start off with a uh very familiar name and start off with a barn burner in the finals. McGuanigo's Chad Leviner, 18-12 victory over Kakona's Adam Van Schindle. Curtis, I'm guessing you were waiting in the wings when this match was going on, but wow.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

Yeah, it was uh it was uh you know, it you you any of the wrestlers that have been to the state tournament and were blessed enough to be in the state finals know this. Yet you're hanging back in the tunnel, kind of trying to patiently wait as much as you can. And we didn't have the ability to see the scores on a TV that they do now through uh track wrestling at the time and then USA bracketing today. So, like there was a lot of craned heads trying to peek through the tunnel, see what was going on. But uh the the Leviner was a stud, man. Uh holy cow. The the other name that kind of sticks out to me, like, and I he was well, obviously, Van Schindle. There's been like 12 of them at Kakana, it feels like. And uh, you know, that was that was one people were looking forward to, I'm pretty sure. Uh and you got to remember something too as we're going through this. There was no seeding, it was all draw of first, uh especially in D1, first place in the first round at sectionals, face a second place guy. So those were those were the big ones. Jeremy Clark also was a stud. Uh, he ended up playing uh placing fifth. Uh the one that stuck out that I don't know really much about was the Martino Ballsinger. Would that have been a relation to Izzy? Older brother. Okay. So I mean there, I mean, again, names just repeating itself again. So, like, uh, yeah, those that was there was a lot of ooze and ahs in that one, if I remember correctly.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Well, it had to do with uh what was going on in D2 106 as well, but we'll get to that.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

That will come across, and that's that's that's his Brian Lewis, I think, went on to have a great career, only a sophomore just then.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

But yeah, Ted Leviner, 18 to 12. If I remember right, he's the young man with the well, I obviously I remember the match, even though I was looking over, but Leviner kind of wrestled, Curtis, if you remember this, and I know this was a little preteague, but he just kind of wrestled a very flowing match. Like he just would take guys down, and it wasn't he really let him up, he just kind of they'd fly around and then he'd take them down again. It was the two for one, but uh I don't want to piss off the Kakana people, but I I think even though it was 18 to 12, it was uh very much in hand.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

It feels like back then, too, there wasn't as much of the take down and cut 'em as there is today, simply because takedowns are worth more. You know? Um so I it was much more you're you're gonna go through these and 18 is a lot in a state finals between two studs like that. Um, and the it it was just it had to have been a grinder where the I don't know how they got continue to get on their feet. I don't know if a lot of near falls were in place. Again, we were trying to crane our heads, or in that case, at that time, I was probably trying to get my mind right for my final and and and you know get ready for what I had to deal with later on in the in the night. So it the fact that it was 18 to 12, I imagine was wild.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Going on to 112. By the way, Steve, what were you doing in wrestling in 2006? Were you at the end?

SPEAKER_02 12:49

Well, I was during that match, I was coaching, so we'll probably get there. And uh yeah, that was an eventful one. She had Levin wrestling over in D1. We had a uh big match in D2, and I was I was coaching the final at uh D3.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

All right. I didn't know because I'm guessing, Steve, we all know pre-2009 for me is kind of tough. But there's probably like a dead period for us, right? Like if we did like late 90s or something, do you think it'd be uh there we'd probably still recognize names, but do you think you have like a dead period?

SPEAKER_02 13:20

Not really. I was uh that was my last year as a head coach, 06. Um, but I was uh very much involved in the sport of wrestling in that time, so I'd be good.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Also, we need to keep an eye on here. I noticed this, but Jeremy Clark of Rapids, state place winner, keep an eye on these Rapids guys in the lower weights. And speaking of that, 112 pounds. Josh Chappa was got the Rapids 4-0 over Arrowhead's Adams Warline. Great 4-0 match right away. And I know this one was a pin, but talk about big names. Chappa and Steven Monk in the first round is insane.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

You nailed it, you absolutely nailed that again. Who would a monk lost to at sectionals? Uh Chapa lost to Malachi Root. Chappa lost to Malachi Root. Okay. Gosh. Uh, yeah, that was uh you guys uh we were talking about it prior to the pod, guys, and where like, you know, you guys talk about the freshmen coming in that are gonna make waves. Monk was known. Monk was very well known, and Monk was a stud. Uh, and it's a shame that match ended up in the first round. I think I don't know how the pin happened. Um and uh gosh, I I'm I I'm sure I watched it because Thursdays used to be D3 and D2 didn't wrestle, it was just all D1. Um, so I'm sure we watched it, but uh the fact that that was a first round match when it should have been probably at the very least a quarterfinal match, if not a semi. Uh, because you got to think about the other names in there. You talk about Malachi Root, Malachi was one of those beasts as well. Um, but ran into uh uh uh uh Zwerline and you know it was that was a stacked bracket looking back at it. And and and again, it speaks to Monk too, because he wrestled all the way back from there uh for fifth and had to be a cheerleader after that first round because uh Chappa had to win for Monk to keep going. So that's uh yeah, that's the one that really sticks out in this way, class.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

And speaking of Chapa's quarterfinal match, gotta give a shout out to my former coaching uh comrade, Jared Bagnewski, who maybe won the tough draw of the tournament award. That's rough. Had Chapa on the quarters, and then guys only lost three to two against a monk in that first constellation.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

That's that's really impressive considering both Monk and Baganowski are coming off losses wrestling that match. So, like, yeah, what a what a bracket. This is a really good one. I'd love to see videos from that back then.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

Also, can we have a a conversation about the best wrestlers never to win state if Malachi Root's not involved? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

He's part of the conversation for sure.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Um, he has to be one of the ones that started the conversation.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

I I I'm sure, I'm sure, at least in in my memories of of the state tournament. Uh, he was he was tough, man. And he was only a sophomore at this time, too, and gets third in D D1. And I I forget what he did the other two times.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

By the way, fellas, you guys might need to turn your computers down a smidge. I'm hearing just a little feedback when I talk. So I think there's just like a slight echo for someone. Gotcha. Don't worry, I promise you'll still be able to hear me.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

You're good.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

All right, next one. 119 pounds, D1. Jared Jaminsky at Wisconsin Rapids, another sectional loser, a turned state champ. Two overtime victory. That has to be the ride out periods. Two to one over Johnny August of Pulaski, a sectional final rematch. That is epic.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

Uh, yeah, Jamensky. Jeminsky was who who would he have that was a sectional rematch, him and August. Yeah, and August won. And and so uh in double overtime, too. That would have been that would have been the ride to win, I believe.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

Uh yeah, I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

They've changed it so many times. Was it the rideouts at that time, Curtis? It would have been the one minute uh period on your feet, and then the 30 seconds ride to win. Okay. Uh they didn't have they didn't have the uh you get 30 on bottom, and then the other guy gets 30 on bottom, and then it's whoever got first point uh got to choose. It was it was just the 30 seconds, and it was still the uh whoever scored first got choice in that ultimate tiebreaker. So I don't know if he escaped, I don't know if he wrote out, but again, double overtime in that one. Um the the name that pops out to me too is uh Umla from uh Wassau West. He's a freshman in that weight class. He goes on later in his career to accomplish a ton of stuff. Um Sean Perry is a freshman from Merrill at that time, and I think I can't remember if older brothers in this one as we go forward, um, but uh he was another uh kid that stood out name name-wise that you remember. Uh, and then the also the Cody Zimmerman from Hartford Union, uh, who had Jerry Jamie. That's a that's unreal that Cody Zimmerman had that draw first round again. Again, this is this is why we go back to the seeding that we have today. And Lord knows that the seeding isn't perfect, but we don't have these pop up like we used to, which which is good. Um yeah, the you you talk to a lot of old timers, and I guess I'm putting myself in that category anymore because good lord, this is 20 years ago. But uh the fact that Cody Zimmerman had to wrestle Jared Jaminsky right in the first round is absolutely crazy to me. And then wrestle Sean Perry, who is a really good freshman in his own right at the time, uh and goes all the way back to get fifth. Like at this time, getting fifth place in some of these brackets, depending on who you had, is is huge compared to a lot of other things. And again, you know, Umwaf, we talk about, lost to Garcia, who ended up getting sixth at that time. Both those guys would go on to do uh pretty good things.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

Steve, I was gonna say that there is some Fort Atkinson talent in here, but I'm guessing Fort Atkinson wasn't even a twinkle in your eye at this point.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

Yeah, I think, well, we lived there at that time, but uh I don't remember Zach that much. I'll only by name name only. You know, Frank Frank Weiss was coaching him at that time. Frank Weiss, you want to have a guy that you could just get out of podcast and tell stories. That'd be that'd be Frank Weiss.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

He's one of the really good dude. I got to coach with him when I was still going at Whitewater for a year.

SPEAKER_02 20:49

Isn't he like one of the most likable guys ever?

SPEAKER_01 20:52

Just a really good dude all around. Is is Frank Weiss, Steve, the one that would just beat the beat the snot out of kids in the wrestling room? No, that was uh no, that was not Frank. Oh no, that's that's Terry Kramer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

DKO, baby.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

All right, one to 25. What a final we have here, and look at the name recognition with this one. We have Nick Hucky of Air, or Hugh, sorry. He wins 14 to 11 over Toma freshman Justin Pollack. Another banger finals match here in D1.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Uh and this would have been Nick Hucky's first out of three that he would end up getting. Sure. Uh gosh, I wish I remember I uh what the because I can't remember if he was in my cheese head bracket at all. year and then dropped to 125 or he might have been 125 at the time. Um I really can't remember. Uh but yeah he that he kinda he kind of popped up. I'm sure everyone knew who he was up north or up by Arrowhead excuse me uh in the in the east. But um he uh I mean he comes in with 10 losses so you know he he must have had tough competition preparing him for this um but then this was kind of his springboard of of what he would go on to do because I believe he would go on to wrestle at Mizzou and uh yeah just a stud.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

I'm trying to look through the other names of the weight class uh geek I know that this was a little before you but uh Pollock did you I know you're kind of from that area I I don't remember him past this uh this point I know he made it to the finals as a freshman did he did he go on and he that ended up being a two time state champ I think he might have moved to New Lisbon okay Curtis would maybe know but uh that's what I well because I remember the last name that's what I was wondering I remember the last name so I I think you're absolutely right because I thought he was the name was more of a D3 name um so that that would make sense yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't really remember him uh at all um but you said he'd go on to be a two-timer so I again that would have been after I graduated so uh and and again at this point I don't know if I'm looking at that because I'm in the tunnel ready to go uh for my next one at 130 in D3 so uh I don't know if I would have been paying attention a lot at this point to some of the finals that were going on yeah Pollock graduated uh he graduated and then we were freshmen so he was basically talked about like a demigod in our wrestling room never never saw him wrestle but just knew he was good at wrestling and also with rapids love the name games bottom four weight classes the killer jays all four of their names start with jay all state place winners you are correct Justin Pollack I'm just looking ahead in 2008 he won it at 125 so he must have won it in uh he didn't win in 2007 so yes you are correct he went to New Lisbon good call we got Andrew in the chat saying he's trying to get uh Adam today's brothers to get them to wrestle not not to interrupt you but I'm looking at the D1130 that's stupid how good how many good names I'm seeing on there right now oh my goodness go ahead well hey there's another Van Schindle Nate Van Schindle of Kakona nine to three victory over West Alice Hales Tim Costigan who Tim had to battle to get to this one I think what sticks out to me here is is that quarter final not just the quarterfinal and listen i'll I'll let's hit that for a second and let's let's just I hope kids are watching this too because that's the fact that he's a freshman at the time I understand that and he's he wasn't the guy that he would grow up to become and and the the awesome wrestler that he'd become but Ben Previsor is uh I mean his his accolades speak for themselves what he was able to accomplish um but then you talk about the road that Costigan had to go through Josh Kyle was the returning runner up at the time uh who pinned me in a uh three quarter at cheese head that year uh just strong as an ox um so he had to go through two absolute studs to get to get to the finals and then ends up having to wrestle Nate van Schindel who was a stud in his own right also guys if uh if Wisconsin Rapids is the best team of the 2000s which I don't think anyone would argue Wausaw West might be a close second just with their late run in the 2000s.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

Well close second teague but you gotta remember too I'm I'm you're gonna look at 135 we we saw the Merrill name you know you're gonna see Dustin Perry coming up here a little bit those three schools back then were just like it it was a shame that they were all in the same conference it really was for sure well it's I mean back then it was no different than point IG at the time in our conference and our sectional because they would all end up at least showing up in in the same sectionals or at least being close to having to get pulled to the same sectional so that area was a real hotbed at the time also real quick just a shout out to Aaron Spith who was uh uh he's the head coach at West Bend West I believe uh while the Mirasolas were there uh and still is head coach there yes yeah we talked yeah we talked to him he would have uh he would have uh provisor for the fifth place match um and ended up losing to the event uh to Wilson in the quarters but would wrestle all the way back for for sixth place but yeah he he was the he was or he currently is the head coach of West Bend West and was with the Mirisola brothers there at the time I see another Toma name in here uh Aaron Spith certified great dude by the way oh awesome dude I've known him since UW Whitewater uh just super super nice dude easy to talk to fun to talk to uh about wrestling just happy that happy for his success that he had with those with those brothers and seeing them go do what they've been doing at Penn State now 100% there's a lot of Toma names we see in these state brackets the Timberwolves of Toma team state semifinalists this year which I'd love to look at team state as well but I honestly think like looking at old Team State that should just be its own podcast too because there's so much to unpack and Curtis not to I'll give a little cliffhanger here for the folks that we talked about the Mineral Point IG battles there was another team involved in that southwestern battle this given year oh yeah for sure there it's it's uh it's always it's always gonna be a difficult road coming through here but again like I've said it before like it it's battle tested are are these kids and that that really it makes them it it it helps them for the better.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

And believe it or not that team was not a Swall or SWC team which makes things into Curtis probably already knows the school Steve I don't know if Steve has it nailed out yeah you got my is it from that area Southwest somewhat not as Southwest but let's just say there was a flock of good wrestlers anyway D1 135 I know it I got D1 135 hey there's another Perry Dustin Perry of a Merrill 2-0 decision over David Becker of a Brookfield Central Perry also had a 3-0 win over Justin Teppo of Wapacka which was a D1 school at this time wow it's crazy yeah uh couple things in this bracket Dustin Becker was my roommate freshman year at UW Whitewater awesome dude super intense at the time and Dustin Perry was uh or David Becker excuse me Dustin Perry was just as intense those were those were two that I say this with love to both these guys that is a match that could have easily ended up as a UFC fight you know what I mean uh they're they're that intense they're that just built like brickhouses and and uh you know super super good wrestlers uh you talk about Tepo as well Justin Talbot from Appleton North was another name that um really was really good at that time uh Brett Balwig from Sock Prairie was one that would go on excuse me to do it to uh to have a great career as well so again just another uh loaded weight class in in my eyes do we have to give a shout out to uh Wasaw West Chris Rankin who Chris is in the chat right now and uh we just pulled up his bracket yeah he did say the valley was fun and tough to wrestle in back then Chris congrats to making it to state out of what I'm assuming was a meat grinder of a sectional team as you move on to it you talked about pack of but also Delvin Darien we're watching now in D2 but at D1 at the time oh yeah didn't even catch that 140 pounds another Merrill wrestler but we'll figure he made the finals thought that we had uh the where's he at Riley Kreiser of a Moskego seven to six win over uh Merrill's Brad Welter in the finals and uh I mean had to have been a great finals match a one-point match in here I don't have anything else I see another hockey from Rapids I see another Watson West wrestler and Jared Rickard of Sparta Jared would actually be the he was the head coach at Sparta for a couple of years I I I I got a couple names first off Welter and uh Greg Burke would go through wars against each other between the cheese head and the northern exposure uh and they were just super fun matches back in the day um the one name that sticks out because I remember it vividly is uh Andy Iverson of Stoughton uh he really good wrestler but super known for his splatle would get it anywhere and would get it in a ton of places and and catch really good wrestlers with that um and you you we we knew you couldn't hit a head inside single on the kid because that's what he was going for.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

He was lanky he'd get that he'd let you step over that ankle as you're hitting your head inside single because he was reaching over for that splatle and he was going to try and catch you in it.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

Yeah I would have loved to know we have an Adam Enderby from a Green Bay Preble East in this bracket I'd love to know the amount of enderbees that wrestled in northeast Wisconsin in the that's a that's a name that's a name to remember too holy cow and you know you talked about Stought that's the first time and we might mention every weight class after this I don't remember them this year but uh first time we've met this mentioned Stoughton oh good good call there Steve didn't even think about that one this would have been right at the time too where Point and Stoughton were really battling.

SPEAKER_00 34:22

It was a back it would go back to Stoughton and back to point on a yearly basis. It would have been the year before where we took over uh at 41 and then this year I believe was I I can't remember vividly and if Empi or Spieldy are in the chat they need to speak up now but I feel like we kept the lead after the year before and then added on uh during this year. But again I can't remember and I'm pretty sure they ended up getting an a state champion later in this so I again you're just re a lot of memories flowing back at me as we're going through this.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Well stay tuned on this episode of the Wisconsin wrestler podcast and we'll find out if Stone had any state champions this year. Going to 145 fellas this might be a a name that is familiar to all for for different reasons now whether it be for bracketing or streaming or wrestling this case it is wrestling.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

We're talking about Wisconsin Rapids senior Kevin Tritz 9-3 decision over a Billy Schlotke now that is a name from McGuanego uh and Tritz too like you want to talk about one of the best guys for the sport of wrestling obviously uh just everything he's accomplished on like the behind the scenes part for uh wrestling across the nation you know developing track wrestling um is incredible like he he he doesn't get his uh flowers the way he should and truthfully like I bet he wouldn't want them like he's just one of those quiet guys that likes to stay on the peripheral and uh just loves good wrestling loves to see the sport of wrestling growth he's one of those that uh really really has just uh been a godsend for the sport of wrestling and how lucky are we to have him in Wisconsin where we get kind of first crack at whatever he comes up with next and it's it's always a home run. Granted I'm sure he'll uh mutter to himself frustrations on whenever technology doesn't work but he is much more equipped than any of us to deal with those issues um but he's he's such a good ambassador for the sport of wrestling um I mean outside of that I don't really have anything that stands out I feel like rolls uh Jason rolls the roles name from forest is familiar isn't that the coach teague uh who coaches there now isn't that Jason I think is it is Tyler coaching right now I think I have the we had we had a uh Rolls earlier as well but there is there is always a Rawls wrestling in DeForest it seems like and I I went on a spring break with one of their sisters one year.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

Nick Weiss uh we just talked about Frank Weiss that's the son of uh Frank early and the only other name I have T do your little Google thing but isn't isn't Dustin Hoffman isn't that that famous actor who played Rain Man yeah and I think Mr Magorium's Wonder Emporium but I don't think he's as known for that but yes Dustin Hoffman is in Rain Man.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

You know Dustin Hoffman I thought he was older than I am but uh you know here he is wrestling in 2006 hey going down to 152 pounds finals match Lane Olsen Racine Horlick 5 to 1 victory over Eddie Stefanik from the Hoedeggs Lane Olsen so he was he was a multi sport athlete he would go on to be the starting safety for UW Whitewater when they went on their run of uh national championships and national runner ups uh I think he was their starting safety for two years um he was all of 5'8 but just like he had muscles that I didn't know existed um he he was a monster uh out on the football field for UW Whitewater during during those uh it would have been them and Mount Union a lot in the stag bowl for the national championship in D3 from 2007 to like 2011 or something like that fellas this is a throwback team right here uh we have uh Cedric Rollins a wrestling for Milwaukee Milwaukee Custer who was the kid that wanted for Milwaukee Custer Steve Remetter Demetrius Demetrius Games yeah guys he was fun it was he was fun yeah it's funny i i mentioned uh we haven't seen stought and then i said well they're probably in every bracket they have been since and we've seen three stoned guys in a row and levi oh wait who's the stoneton guys probably give him alex shoemaker and then levi lasse from Merrill Teague how many how many Merrill guys have we mentioned so far brother i i've lost count at this point i might need to off to the side go see how many state qualifiers there were in each of these like from each of these valley school that this bracket was just intense in that eight of the matches just on the championship side were within four points of each other also uh James Diedrick from Menominee Falls was a really good one to watch too I believe we saw him at Watertown if I can remember correctly but he was also a really good one in that bracket as well ended up making the semis getting third but he was he was also a tough kid to wrestle as well Curtis you guys have been going to the early birds since the beginning of time haven't you I feel like I feel like we're kind of the original part of when that tournament first started I'm pretty sure we were uh we've been there since then um so yeah it's a it's it's always I love that tournament to start the season was it named after Tom at that juncture I can't remember if it was I Curtis just likes it because of the awesome officiating that takes place yep hands down hands down baby all right so that's looking at the team state scoring a lot of the D1 teams just at the top Kakona had five Merrill had seven river falls with three arrowhead five where oh rapids they won unofficial team state scoring they had eight qualifiers I'll see if I can find Stona as I scroll here but in the meantime let's go to 160 pounds and a couple of familiar last names one of them not from a place I expected when I first looked at this bracket we have Ben Starbacher of Verona 5-4 over Evan Pisig from Menominee so Steve correct me if I'm wrong but this was the Okie choke match um where it was uh Pesig was up or Pesig was up or tied I can't remember and it was uh it was he would go to that Okie choke or kind of have like a bulldog headlock with the with the leg in and uh just held on tight a lot of the time while Saarbacher was getting trying to get away and I think Saarbacher got away with like 11 seconds left or no I remember it vividly uh Pesig was up one kept going to the Okie choke got nailed twice for stalling tied it and then Saurbacher got away wow and ended up taking that win down that was uh that was a wild match to watch the crowd really got into that one uh Tommy Kreutz sticks out on this one too who had to wrestle Pesig in the semis um who who was a a stud in his own right um Jody Van Lannon from Oshwabedan's another one yeah that kind of that kind of sticks out and then Ben Sarbacher I wrestled Ben Sarbacher when we were both freshmen and sophomores or sorry I would have been a sophomore Ben would have been a freshman and uh this was at the IG duel tournament that we would have wrestled each other. I'm not gonna talk about the the ending of that but because I'm still bitter about it but um but um he's he's one that comes to mind and then take a look at the name that didn't get out of the first round uh he would end up going to Eau Claire and either coaching or his brother coach and I I can't remember if you all American or not, or maybe the international tournament, but Sam England from Nina. Oh, yeah. Another one of those really good wrestlers that would go on to do awesome things.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Yeah, England, a really familiar last name. Van Lannons. I can't count how many Van Lannons from how many different schools have wrestled over the years. Curtis is Starbucker. Do you know if that's any relation to the IG Starbachers at this point?

SPEAKER_00 44:29

I believe it's a cousin. Okay. I believe it's a cousin. Um but yeah, man, he was a good wrestler coming out as a freshman. And I kind of knew it was a matter of time when before Ben would uh uh would end up on top of the podium at in some way, shape, or form. Whether it was and he he got a lot bigger. He he found the weight room and it showed. Oh no, yes, I I just want to say I remember this vividly as the Oki Choke match in 06. Um, and uh I hope someone's in the chat telling me I'm right on that one.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Whereas Curtis being 30 30 minutes out from a state championship. I'm impressed that you have that good of a memory of it.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

Well, I was up in the stands at this point, and the crowd the crowd really, really tried to uh encourage the official for that stall calls because he did hang out on that Okie choke for quite some time. Um, but it it was a wild match.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

And there's another custom wrestler in this. I wonder if this is the custer team that like the YouTube documentary is about.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

I 2006. I if I remember I'll do some uh recon for you, but I believe that was.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

You're gonna have to send me that YouTube doc because I don't know what.

SPEAKER_01 45:46

Oh, it's pretty sick. We we got oh wow. There's a I don't know how stacked it is per se, but a lot of names that we still see now. Champion here, Eric Bugenhagen from a Franklin, six to four over Mr. Fire Up Friday himself, Ryan Woods of a Bayport. How about the battle, Steve, between Woods and Malcolm Briggs into the quarterfinals? And it seems like there's a lot to unpack from this one. Curtis, we'll let you have the floor first.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

Uh Malcolm Briggs, absolutely. He was he was another one that was super good, super fun to watch. Um the uh if I'm looking at this correctly, uh Tyler Rens would who would go on to get third for lacrosse logan. He's one that uh I remember as a as one of those stud wrestlers as well. Um gosh, I'm trying to I'm trying to look through here and see if there's any uh why does the underwood name sound familiar? I might be thinking of Athens Underwood.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

You're thinking of Athens Marathon Underwood, yeah. Okay, Andrew has a because I think Andrew was a Franklin guy back in the day. Andrew, let me know if I'm taking your comment correctly. Eric lost him at the start of the year. Is Eric's only lost this year to Ryan Woods, and then he avenged it at the state tournament? Because if so, that would be epic. I know you can't talk lacrosse wrestling without talking about the Lorenz's. Tyler's state semifinalist in this bracket.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Fun one here. Yeah, just uh again, just another lot of good wrestlers in this one. I I wish I knew more of the names, unfortunately, but Lorenz, Malcolm Briggs stands out. Tyler Christensen, I feel like, is another name that stands out as a freshman at this time. I feel I don't remember what he ended up doing, but uh again, another one of those stack brackets.

SPEAKER_01 47:51

See, this is one if we were doing the podcast like a state preview, you could wrestle this one six times and get six different state champions.

SPEAKER_02 48:00

You absolutely could. You absolutely could. And if I remember right, that was a last second takedown from Eric over Ryan.

SPEAKER_01 48:08

Tie match at the time, epic. 189 pounds. Fellas, this is a familiar name in the wrestling world. Trevor Branf, 14 to 6 major decision over Ben England from Nina. Two big names.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

Um, yeah, I mean, we all know what Branfold went on to do, and uh again, just another one of those that's such an awesome ambassador for the sport. Uh what was he, a couple-time All-American Big Ten champ? Um would go on to be assistant coach uh at UW and then would go on to corner. Um uh, oh, why am I brain farting at the Olympics? Uh Gable, Gable Stevenson. Uh you know, he he has been just all over the place when it comes to uh Wisconsin wrestling as well. Dallas O'Malley was really good and didn't even get out of the first round. Um Ben English, uh you know, again, another one that again, I can't remember if it's his brother or him that uh would go on to be a coach at the D3 level in college. Um but again, both really good wrestlers in their own right. Uh just yeah, it was it was uh that being said, all those good wrestlers, but it was Branvel's from from the start. He he was that good.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

Yeah, 45-0. Very impressive on his part. Another badger conference shout-out here. Josh Puttkamer of Baraboo. I think there's a Putt Cammer that played for the Thunderbirds this year on their football team. So I wonder if there's some relation. This is a weird, like like I think you'd be uh you have to be 20 when you had the kids. I don't know if there's uh many father-son relationships in this yet. I still think it's maybe like cousins or whatnot, but yeah, or like uncles and whatnot. Yeah. 215 pounds. Here we go. We have Justin Schmalfeld from Burlington, 7-2 win over uh Steve Virgle from Wisconsin Rapids.

SPEAKER_02 50:37

Well, Curtis, I'll take you away on this one because uh Justin is the reason why I have a new knee.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

Uh you you take this because honestly, I've got nothing for you on this one. None of these names are sticking out.

SPEAKER_02 50:53

And all due respect to you, um, coach of Burlington. Jeez, um for wrestle for Riverdale. We had him on the podcast. What the heck? It's football. Uh what's that? Gribble? Yeah, Jade Gribble. Yeah, from uh so Jade calls me up. I'm coaching at Cambridge at the time, and he says, hey, you know, or whatever. And I come down at Christmas over Christmas wrestling practice, and I wrestle with Justin, and uh I decided to do a stand-up, and Justin brought me back down to the mat and he twisted me up. And well, guess what? Steve's gonna get a new knee over Christmas. So that was uh but I just I tell uh Jade, I said I was the reason why he won that state championship, and he just lets me say it because he knew that I had to get surgery out of it. But he was a he was an absolute beast, Justin. Great kid.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

Wonder if we have a Harlow relation here with uh Eddie Joe Skinnendor from uh Green Bay making the semifinals.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Well, Joe Skinnendor, um wasn't this the same year? Maybe that's 2003. Skinendor won. Who was the kid that won that from Oneida Nation? They're uh their only state champ. Maybe somebody in the chat will know.

SPEAKER_01 52:11

All right, 275 pounds. This guy had to have been a monster from Rice Lake. Anthony Lowe, 47 and 1. Pin in 1-24 over Kakona's Mike Gokker.

SPEAKER_00 52:31

I honest, I honestly, again, I don't I don't know how it it isn't. I I'm not recognizing anybody from these from these back in the day. I I maybe I just wasn't paying attention to the bigger weights on the far mat at the time. So I'll leave it to you and Steve.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

Well, I just gotta give a shout out. Again, I don't know if it's dad, but Isaac Knuth of Reedsburg area. If you guys know uh Ryland and Landon, who have been starting for the Beavers football team since they were freshmen, there are big boys. And it it looks like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree in the Knuth family. Uh how about the matches here? 4-2 overtime between Lowe and Knuth in the semis. A lot of fun ones in the top, and we have some alliteration here. Aaron Adami from Sauk Prairie. And oh, I thought there was one more in this.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

There is another one. Steve Sharks are gonna do that. Good stuff.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

Uh I gotta interrupt you before we go on to day two because I'm just I'm looking at the chat of that uh Andrew guy that's talking. He's saying that Eric uh would have been the oh what wait, it would have been 171, the Eric Brugenhagen. Yeah, so I don't remember any of this that he wrestled for UW and then goes on to WWE and now uh an American gladiator. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

Yeah, what was Eric's uh Andrew? What was Eric's WWE state, not the state, now I'll say stage name, but what was his stage name?

SPEAKER_00 54:17

Well yeah, he he's he's gonna add him to the list of a guy we gotta add to this.

SPEAKER_02 54:24

He was known as the uh Saber Slayer. I'm just kidding. I made that up because Franklin is the Saber Slayer. Yep, that'll be funny. I want to hear more of that when he gets a chance, but go ahead. Were you guys big Guardians of the Galaxy uh fans? I I am a big Guardians of the Galaxy fan. He goes, my name will be Taserface. It's right for you. They're like, no, it doesn't. We get a big kick out of that. Taser face.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

Sorry. Division two, no, I I loved it, Steve. Hey, big names in Division II, 103 pounds. Yeah, I gotta I gotta get locked in on the zooming here.

D2

SPEAKER_01 55:15

Make sure. Can I is everyone in the bracket with that? Nope.

SPEAKER_02 55:19

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

Well, real quick, I'll get things rolling and then you two start talking. Holy cow. Thane Anchick. Awesome. A lot of us know him as a famed wrestling official now, but here he's a state champ beating Alyssa Lampy, wrestling legend, six to three in the finals.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

So, first off, Thane Anchak, awesome official. And he would go on, I think he wrestled at Minnesota, correct?

SPEAKER_01 55:53

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

I would assume so just given the distance, but I I think he would wrestle at University of Minnesota, um, but he's one of the he's one of the good officials in the state of Wisconsin. And it's it's really cool when you talk about wrestlers that had this type of accomplishment that come back and officiate. Cliff Angie comes to mind uh as another one, as one of those. Um and and I'm I'm brain farting on like a ton others, but like really good official. Obviously, Alyssa Lampy made history at this. Um first girl ever to make it to a state finals. Uh all eyes were on this one, and it was right out the gate. It started the entire tournament state finals that night. That just led to some awesome matches. Um, I gotta give a couple shout-outs to uh Grant Sutter, who would go on to win a couple state titles, uh, and is now the head coach of Pecatonica Argyle. Jace Langkamp, who's uh uh uh now coaching at Lancaster, awesome dude, continues to be involved. Um this was a stacked bracket. Holy cow! Uh those four in particular uh really stand out. Kyle Kluskins, who's the head coach of Nina now, okay. Uh he, you know, another great stud that uh would go on to do awesome things, uh, and is an awesome coach and and now part of the uh he's a district rep for the Wisconsin Wrestling Association. Awesome dude, one of those super hard workers that uh I don't know where Wisconsin wrestling is if he's not one of those people involved. Casey Pashauer was another one that did really well, that was a name that you remember, and he was only a freshman in this. He would go on. I don't know what he would accomplish later on, but he he's one that stands out in this weight class. So a lot of recognizable names in this weight class.

SPEAKER_01 58:06

I was so happy going from D2 to D or D1 to D2, knowing that we unlock southwestern Wisconsin for Curvis.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

I got you, boys. It's just familiarity, right?

SPEAKER_01 58:17

I mean, and I'm pretty sure Grant Sutter was, I mean, obviously good wrestler here, but he was I'm pretty sure he was a hammer as a junior and senior as well.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

Well, and that would have been the time, and we're gonna see a couple names, other names from Dodgeville, uh, that are gonna pop up as you continue to scroll on. But Dodgeville was was a really, really good team that uh it just felt like they they uh uh just ran into some hammers that I think if they were anywhere else besides southwest Wisconsin, I feel like they would have made it to Team State. They were that good. Um they gave us a run that year in a dual tournament. So it just uh just uh really good team, and and again, you'll see you'll see some of the names coming up here shortly.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

Also, some big flowers, Curtis. I'm glad you said it. Uh Sutter's doing great things at Pecatonica, Argyle.

SPEAKER_00 59:19

Hey, you're you're gonna you're gonna do your preseason stuff uh in the fall. Pecatonica's a name you're gonna talk about. There he's doing so many good things at Pecatonica. Um it helps when you have like 18 Grunfelders there. So uh but but seriously, he's doing really good things over there, and and I'm happy for him. I I just uh uh uh will be very, very uh angry if he gets in a situation where he's able to beat one of our guys at sectionals. But again, we'll uh you know he's uh he's a great coach for that program.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:06

And uh Steve, how about this? The good old days of Shaitek Prairie Farm being individual.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

God, they had a run there for a little while, didn't they?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:17

Yeah, no, they're just they just became D3 this year. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

They had a run of like individuals, and I can't remember if it was would have been this year, the year before, the year after, but they had a run of a couple individuals that were awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

We got Jason Baeme in the comments saying BAME versus Antcheck in the finals at 112 the next year. Great match. Jason, what's the first name of that BAME? Is that like a self-plug here, or uh who's the BAM of that Russell Antcheck? Hey, let hey, let him toot his own home. This is what this is for, right here. Yeah, right. All right, we're gonna move on to 112. We gotta do D3 at D. It'd be Joe BAME. Yeah, Joe Bame. Okay, there we go.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:02

I love I love any of the guys that are uh jumping on the chat that we can just reminisce about the old times. This is good stuff. Obviously, Joe BAME is the one he's referring to because Joe Bain is a big friend.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:14

Guys, okay, I'm sorry, Steve. Last thing. So you there's no Warehouser in this Shitech Prairie farm. I think Chris Hansen told us this, and I hope the Lord, this is the right school. But I'm pretty sure Warehouser, aren't they the school, Steve, that randomly just closed their doors one day?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:33

No, that was uh good stuff. Uh that was uh Park Falls, which we're gonna be talking about. Well, why don't you just turn the knife a little bit here? But yeah, that's Park Falls.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

Oh no, that's who the state Oh man. Okay. Thanks, G. Choose too. 112 pounds. Fellas, I'll talk through this one and then Curtis, however, you want to add to it, go for it. And we got a lot of fun names in here as well, but Bobby Wanekee, the state champion in this one. He had a great semifinal match, uh, one-win over Brannad van Cowenberg of O'Connell Falls. Now, I know match-wise, he lost to uh uh Anthony Lampy, correct? In the first game. He lost to Anthony Lampy, and uh Anthony had to uh forfeit his state title. If you if you want to look more into that, I feel free to go for it on your own. I just gotta say, fellas, like I know before we had him on the show, Steve, it was kind of like taboo, or it's like, uh, like this won't be fun to talk about. Or like Bobby talked about it with some pretty good grace and like the way he handled it and the way how he wrestled for three state titles and you know won this one. Uh I think I'm just gonna plug that episode because I think letting Bobby talk about it was it was it was pretty cool the way he addressed it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:00

Steve, you got anything else on that one? Well, I agree. I I'd I'd refer people to podcast because you're right. We kind of danced around it a little bit. We never really talked about it, and he was he was pretty open about it, and and like I said, he explained it the best out of anybody.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:12

So I could see him, I could see Bobby being a guy too that calls you out during the middle of the podcast. Like, are you gonna talk about it or are you just gonna just continue to dance around it? So I I I'm knowing Bobby, I know he he had uh a lot of good things to talk about. That whole situation, I know, I know it's um it's it's a weird thing. It's a weird situation. There was there was this weird situation, it was kind of a cloud kind of hanging over that whole thing during the state tournament. Um, because that whole thing had popped up like a week or two before. I can't remember. But um Bobby's a great dude and obviously would go on to accomplish so many good things, and you know, he he go and get two more after this. Uh Luke Wigman was also another one that's a super, super good wrestler from Cuba City. Wigman, um, I think he had a younger or he had an older brother, cousin, whatever, that would go on to um, if not win state, placed very highly at state in in the years prior. Um the those are the two names that really pop out to me. I I feel like I recognize the Pat Willis and the Seth Moe names as well. Um, but but again, they're not just they're not really sticking out for some reason, and I don't know why. Um, but again, just uh awesome, awesome uh accomplishment for Bobby, uh regardless of the situation, and and very special for him and and and super proud of that kid.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:50

Hey, he got himself in the right spot. He he did all the right things on and off the net, and yeah, yes, uh agreed with you 100%, Curtis. You're right, Wigman. I know there's a couple of we all we we know about the dinars, I actually think this is like a dinar list window here for Cuba City, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:08

And I think later on, they would cut, and later on, I think it was probably two or three years after I graduated, there the dinar that would end up being a four-timer uh would hit the scene for Cuba City.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:25

Jared, yep, yes, sir. Jared. And there is Mo's in every corner of the state, I swear. Because I think it feels like it. There's a Mo that I think was a state champ from Glenwood City. We know Pete Moe, who coached for Cambridge. There's a lot of Moes going down to a 119. Well, look at that. Another Wannekey. We got TJ Wannekey pin in 351 over another hammer. Curtis, correct me if I'm wrong, but this. Bracket is loaded. He beat Jeddomkey of Baroqua in the finals. TJ Wannekee. Yeah. Well, see, we got to get him on the show, right? Is that the other?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

Hey, I talked to him yesterday. He's he's doing his thing, being a Pops and living the dream, being a teacher, man, like we all are. Um, just again, he was he was uh I hated I I got to coach with him for a year, or not even a year. He came in a couple times when I was at River Valley, and his leg, his leg offense from top was just as mean as it was back then. Um and he's got like he hasn't he might still weigh 119, maybe uh not too much. Like he's he's uh still a lanky uh thin guy, but just mean with that leg ride. Um the the Domkey kid uh from Viroqua was was super tough, and he's only a sophomore in this one. Um so yeah, uh those are the those are the ones that definitely stand out for this for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:14

I gotta say from from my area, and so yeah, Domkey, but then gotta give a little South Central conference love to Tim Baummel and Friendship, Chad Schultz of Mostin. He graduated the year before we got into high school, or two years maybe, and then uh not a Medford Craft, but Kevin Craft from Pioneer Wetfield, Pioneer Westfield, three SEC wrestlers, fellas, and a sixth school conference. I love to see it. Nice. And I wonder if Joe Stefan is any relation to the St. Croix Stephans.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:49

That's yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Same area, 10 miles south.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:56

Down to 125 pounds. Man, tomahawk. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:03

Nick Hager. We talked about the Chatec Prairie run that they had. Tomahawk also had a run there for a little while as well. I'll let you go ahead. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:15

I don't know if they ever broke through the team state as a team, but man, they had the hammers to support it. Nick Hager, 4-3 over a Jordan Foy of Ellsworth. Got Matt Thiessen from Ant Man and Friendship. That was uh kind of their heyday, was around this era. Uh yeah, Curtis, feel free to dive in on this one.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:37

So uh Nick Hager, who would he have lost to? Um he would have lost to Cal York, right? No, he would have lost uh Foy from Ellsworth at the sectional. Oh so that would have been a rematch, I believe. Correct. Yep. Yep, because so then you also have Calvin York, who would go on to win a state title later on for Belleville, for Sugar River, excuse me. Uh Bellville knew Glaris Monticello. Jake Madigan was one of those ones that you thought would win a state title in his career, um, and just ran into hammers every single year. Um he was he was an absolute stud at the time as well. Um Sidel, I mean, Chad Seidel was another one.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:30

Sugar River had two wrestlers. I want to say the other one was like Mike Cole or something like that. Calvin York, and they had another guy in both sides.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:36

You'll see him in you'll see him in in a bracket later. I'm pretty sure it would have been Cole Schmidt. Cole Schmidt, you're correct. Yeah, I think you'll see him later in uh in a bracket or two here.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:51

All right, and going on to 130 pounds. Hey, there's another Stefan. Nice. We have Mike Young from Edgerton, rode the tide all the way to the finals. 5-3 victory over Travis Dressler, Belmont Plattville.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:13

So Travis, uh, Michael Young never met, but again, really good wrestler. Travis, I had to wrestle in conference that year and lost four to two. Uh we would go, him and I would go down to Jordan camp together uh back in the day, and he's coaching at Belmont Platteville now, which is which is great to see him back being back in it. He's coaching uh for them. Uh Alex Storman was uh really good. I had him in the conference semis that year. Um strong as heck, uh super good wrestler as well. Um the pop name really sounds familiar, and I can't think of where. Um so yeah, that again, another stack bracket. Uh it was it was a good match. I imagine it was a good match between Travis and Michael. I was I was really pulling for Travis on that one because he was he was one of my buddies at the time, still is, and and uh really good wrestler. So again, just another one of those good good weight classes.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:23

Michael Young, uh Edgerton's first, but only a state champ. So pull it off that year.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:28

Hey, good stuff. A couple of familiar last names here where uh David Edwards, is there a Jonah Edwards or something now that I think wrestles for East Troy? Like I said, another Stefan earlier. Adam Larson, I believe. Oh, maybe younger brother, cousin Ryan Larson, also a very good wrestler for the Green Devils later on. And uh just want to address the not the chat, but a couple of folks tuned in. I see Toma wrestler, Toma Grant, Tanner Dwarak tuned in. Tanner, a lot of Toma talk in the D1. So once we're done with this, you can hop back in, watch the replay, or listen to the podcast, check out that Timberwolf conversation. Tanner, do you know was Von Hayden the coach at this time, too? I mean, the guy's been around for a while, so I have to assume he is. And then how about this, fellas? We have a celebrity in our chat, not saying anything, but she's here watching uh Mama Mert Fiedler. Nice.

unknown 1:12:30

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:30

She's probably upstairs. She's upstairs, yeah. She's upstairs watching. Tell her to take the broom and start pwning right above where Curtis is. That'd be great. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:41

Mom, I'm trying to podcast. Mom, leave me alone.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

Maybe some hot pockets. And speaking of it, you're all right, Curtis. Here's Cole Schmidt. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

135 pounds. Cole Schmidt of Sugar River. Pin in five minutes 40 seconds over Northwestern's Zach Markinson. Thank you, Mom. Hi, Mert. Oh, all right. Hi, Jimmy. Glad to see you in the chat. All right. I actually don't have much from this. Oh, Curtis, I think the pop name you're looking for, the new Holstein one, there's a couple pops that went through Chilton Hilbert. Okay. That were pretty solid. That makes sense. Uh, fellas, I don't know if I have anything here.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:39

I got a couple for you. Um, so Cole Schmidt, uh, he would go on to wrestle at Wisconsin a little bit as well. Um again, stud wrestler for them as well. Uh uh the the other names that's Derek Foley. Did he go on to win a state title next the next year? I can't remember, but I feel like Derek Foley's a name that comes to mind. Uh Craig McKelvey from Lancaster was a stud. Uh and then Tony Kazick also from West A pier is a name that that sticks out to me as well. All those names, uh the full Foley, uh McKelvey, and Kazakh all stick out to me for some reason or another. But again, just uh yeah, just uh another one of those good brackets. But Cole Schmidt was he was legit uh a stud at that time.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:41

Yeah. Well, Kazakh, uh there's multiple ones, so I don't know if this was him in particular, but he was one of those kids they throw in the category. He was a multi-time medalist. If it's the same one, somebody in the chat might correct me or not, but um, he was one of those where you were just surprised that he didn't win a title because he was that good.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:59

Going on to 140 pounds. Wow, the first all-name team of Blaze Stevens from Barron. Uh, we have uh Zach Sabula of Luxembourg Casco. Uh uh, was this the second? Was he a four-timer, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:17

He would have been a four-timer, yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:19

And look at this dramatic bracket. He won 8-5 against Scott Faye of Sugar River in the finals, 7-5 over Ogey from Kewascom in the semis, four to two against Cody Freemoth from Neilsville in the quarter final. So this was a well-earned state. They're all well-earned, but this one, this was a meat grinder.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:43

Uh, so Sabula, the four-timer, uh, he had battles back and forth for a while with uh my teammate Greg Burke at Cheesehead. Uh well, not battles. Uh Sabula kind of kind of uh took it to him the first time. And then the next year, I think Burt Greg uh Greg gave him a little more of a showing, but again, super stud. Um Scott Fahy was uh was one that kind of uh had a had a great run that year and and still coaches at was helping at Sugar River. I don't know if he still does coach there, but awesome dude. Uh he was a good friend of mine back in the day. And then uh the one that sticks out is the sophomore from Dodgeville down there, Grant Miller, who is an assistant coach for me now at Mineral Point. Uh and and would go on to win a state championship and wrestle for UW Lacrosse as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:47

Love it, Steve. You see uh a notable uh D3 team up in D2 here. Oh, uh are you talking Baron?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:57

No, I think they're they they're oh Gillett Surin team. You're not sure, Andy Smith's Gillett Suring, but uh Ogie, I don't know if you mentioned him, but that's a name that's on the Kewaskin program right now. But yeah, Gillett. Gillett Surin making their way up to D2. I think that was the first year they combined. And uh Gillet was always a mainstay separate uh in D3. I'm glad you said the name and not me. It's a northeastern Wisconsin thing. Recognizable name at 145.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:27

Yeah, from speaking of recognizable name from Kiwascom, Scott Rhodes winning, I believe, his second state title. 8-4 over Kendall Vogel of Pioneer Westfield. No worries of Pioneer Westfield fans. Kendall, I think, did go on to win a state title the following year. But how about Scott Rhodes, now coaching at Kiwasco?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:51

He was a he was one of those kids that stuck out when we were kids, just of like, man, he's good, he's good. Uh yeah, he would he was a really good wrestler back then and and great to watch. Um gosh, I'm looking through here. Kendall Vogel, you you nailed it too. Like, that was a good that was a good final right there, uh, between those two. John Fryer would uh I think he might have placed the next year for Lancaster. He was one of those stud football players for Lancaster when Lancaster had that run of uh state titles in football. Um Kenny Konepaki from Monroe uh was a good buddy of mine in college and high school. Um yeah, just uh a lot of memories flooding back uh with with uh a few of these names here. Casey Bowdy, also another good wrestler uh at the time as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:50

Craig Meyer, I feel like there's quite a few Myers that have gone through West Salem Bangor, but I could be wrong. I do know Hines of Ellsworth. That's uh that that's a name that carries some weight. Steve, anything on 145 D2?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:05

No, I was I was looking through. I thought you were gonna ask that. I'm like, ah, I got nothing. You pretty much covered it.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:09

All right, going on to 152. We got love the alliteration, Jim Jones of Shitec Prairie Farm, 7-3 win over a Bryant Kearney of Lodi.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:25

This this was one of those times too, like Lodi was was sneaky good at this time, too. Um, and I think year before they were better. Um, because I think the year before you would have talked about like Nick Ziggler comes to mind uh with the Lodi team. And uh I think Cody Andres would have been on that, possibly would have been on that team too. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:53

I think they lost their Casco that year, so let's take a look at it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:00

But again, Lodi is one of the one of the was one of those really, really stud teams that um had always had good showings and continue to have good showings. Um the uh I'm trying to look at what other oh Zellner. Zellner is uh, I mean a sophomore at the time places fifth. Would he go on to win one teague?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:26

I I believe so. I do want to say, so the state finals this year in D2, Luxembourg Casco beat Lodi 39 to 32, and Lodi really good the year before. I think the year before as well in 2005, I think was that the Luxembourg Casco like five champs, eight final this year, or something insane like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:50

Would that have been Barbew and that crew?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:52

It I'm guessing so, yeah. It was either 05 or 04 that Luxembourg had that heyday year.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:00

Well, I they've had quite a few of those, but like the I can't I why does the Cox name Andrew Cox from East Troy stand out? Did he go on to wrestle at UW or am I thinking of a different one?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:14

I cannot speak on that one. All that comes to mind is Courtney when you mention the name.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:20

Yeah, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:24

All right, anything else at 152? Hey, 160. We have uh a lot, a lot of big names, long names. Dennis Recklberg of Luxembourg Casco, three to two decision over uh Joe Hilby from Cuba City Southwestern.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:47

Yeah, the only name that sticks out there is Hilby from Cuba City, who was who was a beast at uh at our in our conference and in our area. So it was uh it was good, uh, really good, really good wrestler. That's the only one that I can remember at that time.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:07

Yeah, we um a cool cool story with Eric Coughlin down from Columbus, ended up taking fifth place, one four to three. I I got to watch him grow up, and he was kind of he ended up as a as a senior as just this mountain of muscle. But uh, when you see a kid develop and work hard from freshman year who were, I mean, he had some skills, but he wasn't that good, and and uh do the work to put it in to go on and take fifth place. That's just uh I mean, I know it's a competitor and it's in your conference, but you like to see that when kids work hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:36

Curtis, I gotta ask you this because I was I I caught I went down the rabbit hole of team state results while we were gonna bring up 05.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:45

I'm getting off.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:46

I'm I'm not bringing up, I don't know what happened in 05, so I can't. I don't remember either. I do. Was it oh, was it a Wright's town duel? Yeah, just go on. We want Curtis, we want Curtis to stay on. Oh seven. Oh seven, the tie between Mineral Point and Kadot. Who wins if there's a tiebreaker?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:08

Uh Kadat would have won if there was a tiebreaker, but the funny thing was, so they uh you can you should have Schmidty on for that story. Uh they crowned Kadot the state champion at that tournament, at the team state tournament in the fieldhouse, and then we didn't know until the next day uh that somebody looked at the rules, looked at the uh WIA rules, and that said that uh if there's a tie, it's a co-champ. So it ended up being co-champs that year, and then they changed the rule after that year.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:48

And you know what's funny is this duel ended at 103, and that's where Kadot got the forfeit. Just like it wasn't a tie this year, but Aquinas won, and they got a forfeit in the last weight class. So yeah, time is just a flat circle, fellas. Yep, it really is. I I think uh Steve, this name uh there's some good podcast lore with this one. Brad Brzezinski from Stanley Boyd Thorpe. If he's related to uh Brecken Brzezinski, do you remember Brecon? We didn't even pick him to make state, or I didn't. And then he ended up being a state place winner that year. I thought he made the finals, did he not? No, he didn't. No, okay. Still a pretty solid story, though. That was uh and now we're and now we're good pals with the Stanley Boyd folks. At least I'd like to show going down to 171 pounds. Man, Osceola had some hammer. Oh, Osceola was the team that they're the last team before Ellsworth went on their streak. But how about Andrew Eastlick, Belmont Platville? Must wrestle Curtis Fiedler style looking at these results, but three to one win over a Brett Madlin of Osceola and fellas. I don't know if there's a more exciting slate of results than this 171 championship side.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:18

Well, I'm just looking through it. Like Madlin, Brett Madlin from Osceola went won 14-11, 2-1 overtime, and then in a 3-1 final against Eastlick that Eastlick won. Uh Eastlick was awesome. Uh, just a big athletic kid back then. Um I honestly don't know if he's stuck around Belmont. I don't know how I don't know where he's at lately, if he's not sticking around Belmont Platteville or not, because it's not like they're big cities, or I feel like I would have heard of them or seen of seen him uh around from time to time. Jamin Sipel was also uh really solid back then as well. Uh JC Francois from Sugar River, Belleville Nuclaris Monticello. Uh also another one of those that really uh stuck out and and was a solid wrestler back then as well. Uh I'm seeing Luke Smith too, and it's making me think of Lightning Luke, but I don't, I know it's not him uh from Menominee Falls uh that would go on to wrestle at Central Michigan. So but uh another one of those really good weight classes and Eastlick, like he strong as an ox and kept he always he always did the won those matches close three two to one, two nothing, three to one. Like but just one of those really smart wrestlers as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:49

Imagine this Friday morning quarterfinal session with 14 to 11, an OT match, six to three, and two to one.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:58

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:01

All right, once once Steve comes back, we'll have to ask him if Francois is of any relation to uh Luke Francois of Wisconsin Wrestling Fame.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:10

Yeah, I might be a kid. I can't remember. I can't remember if Luke was superintendent of Belleville at that time, so maybe. Um yeah, some yeah, somebody might somebody might want to check me on that, but I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:32

Also, he was uh the last comment in our prior one, but Doug, if you're back on, no brew crew tonight. Alright, so he's not watching the brew. Oh, bad night for the Miz. Rare bad night for him.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:46

That's a shame. That's too bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:48

Has he gotten Tommy John surgery yet, or do I have to like emotionally prepare myself for that?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:53

I I don't wish injuries upon anyone, but as a Cubs fan, that's that's a shame. That he got shelled tonight.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:02

I'm not wishing. I just feel like Tommy John surgery is more of an inevitability than anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:10

It's not a matter of if but when.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:12

Yes, exactly. 189 pounds. High flying with the big boys. David Casper of Westby. 11-8 over Joe Trindle of Kiwani. Curtis. What was Cuba City doing in their wrestling room in the 2000s?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:31

They had a really, really good team. AJ Vogue, I wrestled in middle school, man, and he just got to be a monster. Um, he uh he was a really good uh wrestler at this time, too. Um I believe he's a cop now somewhere. I can't remember. Well, he can confirm because he's in the chat right now. Hey, AJ, what's up, brother? Our David Casper.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:56

Hey, David Casper's in there too.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:59

Here's the thing. Hold on, Casper's listening here. I love it. Uh so Casper, Casper and I were good buddies back in high school, too. Just you know, I was probably this annoying dog that can't kept coming up to talk to him because he was like 6'2 and just uh uh chiseled out of stone, and here's this 130 fat 130-pounder coming up to walk to him and and talk to him. So good to see him on here, man. Um, yeah, and then he would go on to wrestle UW Whitewater, too. I was I I remember I was really happy to uh to see him win that title, man. He was he's a good dude. Uh yeah, that that brings a smile to my face to see that he's on here. Um Casper and Vote have to be a sectional rematch, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:48

Uh Casper and Vote, did you say? Yeah, because Casper won that sectional, and vote was the runner-up.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:57

Uh well, they didn't wrestle each other in the finals.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:01

Oh, yeah, never mind. Yeah, forget what I said. Never mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:07

Casper, good to see you, man. That's awesome. Um another, but yeah, vote and and Casper are the two that that jump out to me. Um, I keep seeing Nathan Clements. It's not the Nate Clements from Adam's Friendship. Uh or or Kick-A-Poo. Or Kick A Pooh. Oh, yeah, that's who I'm thinking of. Kick-a-poo Lafarge. Um so yeah, really good bracket. Casper was one, he was another one of those studs that we watched at uh at during the state tournament. Got there was a whole group of us that would just hang out together between uh you know Starbuckers and Rory Edge and Burke and Casper and uh Wanakis and just a bunch of dudes, man. Uh yeah, good times. It's good to see Casper in the in the in the chat, man. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:02

This might be the first year that Surgeon Base of Asphole. I see uh Kyle Ortho Burr. Is that yeah, Ortho Burr. Um, so that might be the first year that they had that com combo squad.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:16

How about Brown Deer being in Division 2 as well? Steve, if someone told you that Brown Deer and Cumberland were in the same division at one point, would you believe them? I would not believe that. No way. And Cumberland being D2, I want to be shocked by, but also this was before we started getting the co-op party. So we do see a lot of traditional D3 teams that are in D2. By the way, David Casper saying that Sexuals was at Richland Center. I just man, Richland Center's just been like a permanent sectional host, it seems like.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:54

They've hosted everything under the sun, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:58

Steve, now that you're back on, do you know if JC Francois is any relation to Luc Francois? Uh I'm not sure, but I can find out. Perfect. We'll get you on that. We'll head to 215, where Justin Newman of Somerset, I'm guessing he played for uh legendary football coach. Uh is it Bruce Larson up at Somerset? But he won the 215 bracket 3-0 over Matt Schumacher of Freedom.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:30

Truthfully, I got nothing here for you because I'm pretty sure I'll be honest. Truthfully, I I I am pretty sure that I watched Casper run win and then ran out to congratulate him, man. So I don't remember any of that. Um so so I got I got nothing for you on this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:49

I was hoping you'd give me a little time because I believe nope, that was not the year. Justin Newman was an absolute beast on the football field. Somerset had some great, great programs, and I want to say they played right sound in one of the years in the finals. Um, but hey, Nick Lloyd, just a sophomore at this time. Nick Lloyd became on. I mean, he might even, I don't remember him as a sophomore, but he was one of those guys that when he walked on the mat as a he's got to be a junior and senior, he was just he won most of his mass matches just by appearance. So that's uh two names that I remember from this weight class.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:26

Also, we gotta give a shout-out on this one, Steve, to uh Matt Scott, who at this time a junior at Monroe, uh now owner of Limit Supplements sponsors are limited barn burner of the week during the season.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:40

Oh, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:41

Yeah. We uh we support people who support wrestling. Tyler, I bet Tyler Manning and David Casper had some battles in the wrestling room. Well, maybe I don't know. Based off of Curtis's stories, I think David Casper just kind of wrecked everybody, it seems like. 275 pounds. Tyler Figueroa of Valders pin in 336 over Brian Volkert from D2 New Richmond, New Richmond and West Apear in Division II, and New Pearlin West.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:30

Um so Joe Vote, Joe Vogt was the uh uh used to be head coach at Cuba City. I believe he's an administrator now at Cuba City. Super, super awesome dude. Love that dude. He he's he's an awesome guy. Um Cody Weber comes uh sticks out from Lodi. Again, this was Lodi was was stacked during this time. Um I seeing this right. Does that name from Bigfoot is that the same guy that would go on to sign a big contract with the Cowboys?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:09

Oh no, the lineman, Travis Frederick at the center.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:14

Because he's a freshman at 275.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:17

Yeah, they had Bigfoot had um crazy good football back in those days, so you're you're very well could be.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:25

But uh that just stuck out to me all of a sudden because I just saw that and I put two and two together. I'm like, there's could it be? I mean, the I I I wouldn't be shocked the fact that he you know is a freshman because of what he went on to accomplish, if that's the same guy. But Tyler Figueroa was also a uh just a monster out there, too, uh, from Valders.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:51

You are from Travis that Travis Frederick.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:54

Yep. Correct.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:56

I was I was trying to the Google uh Google chat, but I did not. And and he go he indeed looks like a guy who weighed 275 as a freshman in high school.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:07

Really, because yeah, I think he did he made the right choice picking football. I'm just gonna go out there out of my way and say that. I'm just gonna, I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I think he made the right choice.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:22

The first thing I'm doing after this episode is looking at Travis Frederick's postseason arc in wrestling the next three years.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:31

Uh last thing before we move on, Luke Metal, I believe that's how you say his last name from Whitewater. Um, we would duel them a few times. He was just he's one of those big, huge dudes, and he's just a great guy. So just wanted to give that shout out. End up taking third place uh that year.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:45

Also uh Laplant from New Berlin West. There's a LePlant that wrestles for Pewkey now. I'm pretty sure. All right, Curtis, it is your time to shine. We've been going for an hour 45, and I think we might be on a longest episode watch, looking to break your own record. Cause here we are, Division III, 103 pounds. Steve, do you want to get us started here?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:16

Uh no, go ahead, G. You can you can say the uh I I got a cool story, but you can go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:22

All right, you got it. D3103, Jay Plemen of Park Falls. The sophomore 7-5 victory over Cambridge is a Robert Daggett in the finals. And I think I'm gonna let the D3 guys roll on this one before I say anything.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:39

Yeah, Jay, Jay, great kid. He went on win uh state championship the next year. I think he was a two-timer, if I remember right. Curtis, uh um, he was just sophomore. Yeah, he got a little uh pancake or fireman's, whatever you call it, tilted us for five, and we just weren't able to come back for it. But I will tell you this. Um,

D3

SPEAKER_02 1:37:56

two cool stories from this. Uh is it Sorgi Curtis? Is that how you say his last name? Cody Sorge. Sorgi. He was um it was really cool after after we beat uh Cody in the semifinals. He he looked at he looked at uh he came over, shook my hand, he said, Coach, go get your first state championship. It was really neat. I was like, it was kind of a cool thing. Like one that he was that educated to know that, hey, this would be your first one. You know, most kids don't have a clue with that stuff. But I will say this story about uh uh Robert. Um he he was a great kid. He started off, he wrestled at 103 pounds as a freshman and he weighed like 80. And he just was uh like he just he would win matches because he'd never give up. But I know I'm going long and it's my kid, so I'm gonna talk about it. But this is how good of a kid he was. He loses now, he was probably favored to win. He was in the state finals the year before, and he got uh he wrestled, I think it was Dahl from Cadots.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:48

Was he in the finals three times, Steve?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:50

No, he was just twice. Uh just twice. But he uh he really didn't have have a chance that one. He was pretty much pretty much uh pretty much outmatched. I would say he was probably the favorite in this one, and uh, you know, it didn't happen, it wasn't the cards, but um go back go back a few weeks, probably four weeks before that, he got this young kid who was a follower, and he's the kid was from Port Washington. I don't know how he became a follower, but he started going to every tournament that Robert and his dad would bring him up and really liked Robert, and so he just got to fall and follow them at regionals, followed him at sectionals, uh, came to Team Sectionals where we uh wrestled there, and then came to States, and this kid was there and and uh got his picture taken with Robert. Well, after Robert's loss, and that the story's a little bit fuzzy to me, but this is in general what happened. It was about 15, 20 minutes later, the local media is looking for Robert. They can't find him. I can't find him. I'm kind of you know, I'm kind of sulking. I'm the adult here, and I'm kind of kind of sulking a little bit. Well, we can't find Robert because guess where he is? He went up and found that kid. The kid was up in the nosebleed sections, got a hold of the dad, and gave that kid his state wrestling shoes that he wrestled in the finals. And uh, and I'm like, I I just think back to that. I'm like, man, it's probably one of the you know, it's a time you're 18 years old, one of the worst times in a kid's life. And Robert's Robert's immediately thinking, hey, how can I go make an impact in another kid's life? And uh it was it was pretty cool. That that that dad and the kid actually wrote a thank you letter with the picture, and that that that letter the kid wrote uh with Robert giving him his shoes is actually um up in the trophy case at Cambridge High School. So it's a pretty neat story.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:26

Robert was a really good wrestler, man. He like Steve said, like he was five two, but he was just a ball of fire, and uh just he he was relentless all the time, continued to go, continued to go. Um and Jay Plemon was you know tough kid. He was he was lankier, uh, if I remember correctly, um that you know that obviously benefited him. Uh Andy Doyle and Cogey Cody Sorge are the other two that really stick out in this one simply because they were in our sectional. Um, both of them really, really good. Uh so yeah, just uh it was it was a very impressive bracket. Also, JJ Frolage from Ootsburg uh for some reason stands out in this as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:17

Yeah, won his first round match, lost to Plummin, and then wrestled back and placed fifth.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:24

And this was the one where Alyssa was wrestling in the other match, and uh, Robert was a little Robert was a little bit nervous about it, and I just calmed it down. I said, hey, don't worry about it. Other than uh Cambridge and uh Park Falls people, you know, everybody else is gonna be watching watching the D2 matchup, so you're good.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:43

Wow. So uh Plemmin and Robert were wrestling, uh, Lampy and Anchick were wrestling, and then uh um LeViner. Leviner in that 18-12 Matt. Oh my lord, I can't imagine trying to commentate for this 103-kill session.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:59

Good start to the state tournament there for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:02

By the way, Steve, I did a quick recon. It it was Warehouser that randomly shut their doors. It was, okay. So, yeah, that's why they randomly shut their doors, and all the kids just got bust to Shitek, and that's why Shittek Warehouser is one district. Ah. So that's so so part falls turning into Shawamagan. Did they like Is that what that is? Did they shut a school down and then open another school? Or I wonder how that worked.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:32

I don't know because they're different color. Like when uh Jay wrestled us, they were like uh I want to say reddish or something like that, but now Shechamagon is like green.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:44

Yeah, Curtis, Park Falls is just Shiwamagan now. Like, I don't know what like the district reshaping is or what, but that I had no idea. Yeah, there's gotta be someone out there. I know there's a dude, he corrected us on the Shiwamagon pronunciation. He did. He oh, I hope he listens to this one and can I would love to know how Parkfall turned like it just changed their name, essentially.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:12

But I will give a shout out to John Standard from Glenwood City, Pinstripe Warrior, because he he put a scare in us. Holy cow, he was not intimidated at all. And and uh I think he came out and he was winning four to nothing, if I remember right. Were they the pinstripe warriors back then, too? I do not remember. That's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:30

Uh might have been. Oh, wow. Talk about familiar names here, fellas. 112 pounds. Andrew Dahl of Cashton, five to three over Greg Sonantag of Cadot. Greg Sonantag now coach is at Cadot. I don't know what Andrew Dahl is doing. Uh, I don't know if uh they're a part of the doll, like like the motor. They have like the car dealerships in the lacrosse area. Curtis, I guess my first question for you is like Southwest Wisconsin wrestling, always tough, especially in your conference. How was Cash and coming up party? Was it like a quiet ordeal? Did they just pop up one year or or how was that? Them joining Frey.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:23

So what the dolls would have been sophomores at this time, uh, and then they had another one too. They were, I think they were actually uh so it was it was kind of a slow burn because they were they were good uh the year before as well, obviously with the doll brothers, but there's a couple others that we'll mention later on in this. Um but they they had that uh a core group where they were they were a tough team. Uh we faced them in the team sectional finals the year before. Um where where they had they were they were really good. They were just gritty, just tough kids that just grinded the whole time. The Doll Brothers were one was really slick and one was really mean. And I um I I can't remember which was which, um but both of them were just tough. And then uh then, yeah, we'll hit the other two that will be also in the state finals when we come across them here. But um Andrew obviously beaten Sonittag, that was a great match. Um Sayoka also sticks out to me from Bonduel. Uh Steven Singh from Cassville, another good one. Uh yeah, that was uh those are the ones that really stick out to me on on in this one uh when I when I think about this weight class. Uh just and again, it was it was a lot. You're gonna notice real quick, it was a lot of our sectional uh at this state tournament because I I can't remember uh scroll back up to 106. I can't remember who was because Steve, you guys would have gone west or east. We were east, yep. So it would have been Doyle Sorgi and uh Canzier in this one. So we had no one from our sectional on this one, but after this, you're gonna see a roll of southwest Wisconsin quite a bit, and it started with Dull.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:32

So Curtis, I'm sorry if I'm bringing up old wounds here. Of course, yeah, go ahead. I'm genuinely what because I I looked at this once upon a time. I remember looking at the state results, and I'm like, oh my gosh, Iowa Grant just like had a loaded team this year, and this is before they had Highland. And and then I looked at team state results or team section, and I saw Cash and beat that. Cash and made it out there.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:59

So it's not Were you guys in the same regional as Iowa Grant then and didn't make it out? Like, were you guys in that picture and just victims of the old format or what?

SPEAKER_00 1:47:09

Yeah, we didn't make it out of regionals that year because we had IG in our in our same regional. Um, it would have been IG and Cashin. I can't remember the other two, unfortunately, but uh granted, I didn't necessarily care because I was probably still pissed that we didn't make it out. But um uh yeah, it was it was Cashin and IG were the were the ones to uh uh to beat that year. And and like I like you said, we'll we'll hit a few of the Cashin kids as we go forward, but IG had a absolute dominant team this year, or this 06 year. And truth be told I'm kind of shocked Cashin beat them at the time. It came down to the last match, and it was a hell of a match. It was fun to watch, but um I don't I I think it's a coin flip if they wrestle ten times, to be honest. I think it goes five and five. Both those teams were that good.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:07

And based off of a comment you made earlier, it sounds like you guys had a good duel with IG in the regular season.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:14

We did. We were we were I mean, obviously, I think we were a year away for our team wise, because there would have been a lot of kids graduating from IG. There was a couple kids graduating from cash in that we'll talk about in a sec. Um, but they were MP was a year away, and you know, next year would go on to be coach amps with Kadot.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:40

Oh, we can't let this go past. I mean, Son and Tag with the last name, and glad to see he's back coaching. But Todd Nowak from Coleman, he's got to be some relation to Bentley. I think there's been a Nowak in Coleman for at least 20 years now, it seems like it's a long time. Uh also PC Halverson, epic name. Hey, 119 pounds. We have a Troy Clements of Kickapoo Lafarge, 10-0 victory over a Garrett Kite of Iowa Grant. Don't know if that's a sectional rematch, but yeah, it would have been yeah. That's uh I don't know, a lot of Southwest flavor here, Curtis, in the top.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:28

So you have Clements and Kite would have been uh would have been a rematch for sure. Um those those are the two big ones that that I remember clearly. I don't uh I don't really remember anyone else. Clements was super good and and Garrett, I'm pretty sure Garrett I can't remember if he made the state finals the next year. He might have, or it was the year before. I don't remember, but I um he just postseason he would go.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:00

want to run a couple times and have a have a really good uh tournament season for for himself and and uh again just uh just ran into a bowl with clements am i seeing this right curtis canosha st joe's were they in your sectional or was that a replacement or something uh because clinton was at your team sectional i was looking back i saw that yeah clinton was at our sectional so maybe i can't remember well which is because yeah so it's crazy to me that you that cambridge would have came to our sectional or sorry canosha st joe's because like it would have made more sense for canosha st joe's to go into cambridge's sectional right yeah they must have they must have took the bottom i'm trying to think back to that year we were with uh we were with right sound so ryan reno reno so you guys went north uh well we went basically the cedar grove was where we were at so um yeah so our our our top three would have been uh renal from rights down the oakfield kid and then uh biermeyer was the third third guy out by the way biermeyer uh lost one and done in that tournament but became Cambridge's first state champ two years later so congrats to him I know I'm the first person to say this but I'd love to see the WIA map for this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:25

Yeah now that you say that because again Clinton came to us which was that might have been one of the only times they came our way and because that's kind of a hole and we hosted sectionals couple of notable school names in here I mean uh well love Cody Parrot that's an epic name from Flambeau but Wild Rose before co-op with Watoma and how about this fella's coming all the way down from Hurley Jeff Tihon making the podium nice also curses does confirm you guys stole the kites from Iowa Grant right um think they're cousins I think they just I I I'm a I'd have to ask my uh elliot's mom but I'm and dad but I'm just assuming they thought blue looked better than red I'll uh I'll have to ask them on that one I mean it it you could give me like a hundred gull strokes and I could get from Mineral Point to to Montfort so you're not wrong okay maybe not maybe for me like 200 but you you know the you know what I'm getting at. Yeah yeah one two five one hundred and twenty five hey look at that there's another Dahl winning in dramatic fashion that is Alex Dahl he I think ended up being a two time state champ won a 12-10 in overtime over a Josh Millot from Darlington so that was a wild match um that I think Dahl was handling him pretty good and then Millot hit two moves that were five points each to send it to OT um hit five earlier in the in the match and made a close and then Dahl would kind of start uh piling on again and then I'm pretty sure Millot hit another one um and then it would have been an overtime uh dahl uh so again just just super tough wrestlers Malot was one of the I so I wrestled Millot during the season uh during the at the duel quickest wrestler I ever wrestled he had me on my heels the whole time um and was super good uh go figure I beat him one nothing because he couldn't get out uh couldn't get away so I wasn't heartbroken when I saw him down at 25 um but yeah that that was a fun match those two and go figure like right before mine when I should have been should have been focusing up um but yeah those two those two were really really good and then Millot would go on to win a state title himself uh the next year we got Aaron Paulsen from Clear Lake I think this starts a run of uh the Paulson boys I know uh I was in the same grade as Garrett Paulson from Clear Lake and love the alliteration from Phillips Fred Freeman up at the top the the Dean on there from Laconia am I thinking two different places uh uh uh when I think of Gabe Dean that's a Steve question I think Gabe Dean well isn't Gabe Dean the uh national champ from Cornell maybe I'm thinking of something completely different I can't remember never mind maybe that's who I'm thinking oh now you got me curious here hold on Gabe Dean is the national champ from Cornell I'm thinking of something completely different never mind right but I do remember the Dean name a lot is there uh is there also a dean that was in the WWE for a little bit oh man that's great 125 if you if you know Marshall wrestling at all there was like three or four Powell boys that came through and they were all tough they were all mean they were all really good wrestlers so Willie Powell Willie Powell I don't know where he fit in that but if uh there were a lot of them we got Mitch Hansen in the chat here uh Mitch yeah we have the stream in two separate streams unfortunately but we have the streams and we'll have the full version out in podcast form probably not tonight but it's gonna be a late one 135 135 oh my god yeah do we save that for last or one it's in it now let's get it out of the way Curtis is nervous but let's get him let's get uh the the the butterflies out 130 pound Curtis Fiedler who won by his three matches by a whopping six points combined three to two over uh cochrane fountain cities uh Zeb Secrist Curtis was this match as close as the score made it seem or was this just a a vintage Curtis Fiedler match not vintage because craziest thing in the world I got a takedown in this oh I shot and actually got a takedown in that final and then uh uh yeah ended up getting cut late with like 20 seconds left because he he was down what was it uh two to one I went up three to one and then I gave up a second stall to at the buzzer to give a to win three to two um so kind of vintage but you know I actually got a takedown in that one um the the really tough wrestler I forget what Zeb ended up doing the next year at the state tournament I feel like he got on the podium I can't remember Sean Olsen who I had at sectionals from Iowa Grant he would go on to the state finals I think the next year or the year after I can't I think it was the next year.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:40

Um the the the Wright's town kid the Brett Klopp he was he was again one of those kids that we uh was talked about as as one of the the next big thing as one of those incoming freshmen I wrestled him at cheese head and pinned him in the first or second something like that um and I and we were kind of talking about it off prior to the pod uh teague was I wonder if it was one of those this is the guy I got to beat uh do what I want to do if I'm gonna be one of those guys that tries to go for four so I don't know if I got his best in fact I know I didn't get his best so as soon as the draws came out and I saw he was in my quad I'm like of course he's gonna come out and uh uh guns ablaze in the next time but uh that was a real strategic win I had to get in that one I'm pretty sure I took him down uh two along with Cam Smith he was a he was tough Cameron Smith cut from 140 at the time uh Brandon Garcia he was either a state champ or state runner up his senior or junior year I believe he was the one he either got he either won it uh by getting slammed or got second uh on a called slam in the finals I can't remember someone's gonna have to look that up for me and someone's gonna have to just or someone in the chat that's that's gonna have to he he was a tough kid as well I didn't see um but yeah Klopp would go on so Wrightstown I'm pretty sure the next year Wright's town moved up to D2 and Klopp would make it to the state finals the next year and then if Verbaton's in the chat or anything he's gonna have to jump in and let me know but like I think he moved out of state the next year I can't remember but um so so yeah just uh to like Wyoming or something like that. Yeah something like that and and he might have won it out there a couple times I can't remember um but yeah that was uh good bracket super good bracket Ethan Nelson was a tough kid again like I said uh Olsen Sean Olsen would go on to a state finals Montemeyer was tough so yeah it was it was it was kind of a like I probably was the favor going in but it was kind of a crapshoot bracket.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:14

Vollendorf from Ladysmith I feel like Vollendorf is a familiar name for some reason that a couple of I mean we're we're here so we gotta talk Curtis Fiedler for a moment. I am um Curtis by the way Nick did confirm Brandon Garcia winning in the state finals and then on the slam slam. Yep. I would love to be and I I'm saying this because she's in watching right now I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the two Mert Fiedler reactions during your state titles for one.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:46

I don't know if she watched to be honest. The wall charts at this place or are they they're they're collecting dust in a like I was telling teague before this like dad redid the whole basement it looks beautiful um like you you can look around here a little bit and it it just like he he he did all this work um the wall charts have to go up there they're collecting dust in a closet somewhere I'm sure we're gonna keep this don't worry folks we'll get back to 135 in a second here.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:24

Curtis I have to ask you um what kind of dual wrestler you were because I I know we loved a him and haul about your close matches and and whatnot but I know there was no lack of effort on your part from like when you when you'd wrestle so what type of dual wrestler were you man? Like I know you'd like to win by two or three on the individual side but were you like a major tech guy or were you a grinded out and pin guy or what I was a grinded out.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:53

I I may have 10 pins in my career I don't know um but like I there wasn't many there wasn't much bonus points coming from me. So so you were were you you were not a great dual wrestler then like you were you were a good like you feel good about getting a win but well here's here's the thing teague like back then this was the same too but it's probably even more so now I was a good wrestler I wasn't a good athlete so like I I credit a lot of my success to the fact that I was very strategic and smart with my wrestling um if I got in if I got in trouble uh you know out of bounds was was my life preserver a little bit if it were if we were on the edge of the mat wrestling or you know if I'm riding and I just and I'm up one or two and I'm trying like hell to get a turn like I wasn't a tilt guy I was a bar guy and a cradle guy and like one fed it one fed into the other so like they'd I wasn't that strong I would fight for one thing they'd fight it off I'd go for the other he'd fight it off I'd go back to the other thing that that that is kind of what helped not me not get hit with as much stalling as you think. Sure um because I was working for it I just couldn't get it and you know I I the the one thing I was confident in was my ability to get off bottom um and was able to get away and then uh just wrestle smart the rest of the way um the the one probably the only time that I had difficulty ever getting away from bottom is if I had a leg rider.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:44

So yeah that nothing special I wish I could have helped the team more in certain situations but that's that's kind of the the nuts and bolts of it all just because I wasn't an athlete I was just a really good really smart wrestler I know I was just curious I I appreciate the honesty of that man that was uh you I don't know the record board so you could have been like yeah I got like 40 pins a year I graduated when I graduated my senior year I was on top none of the top tens of anything in the history of of mineral point wrestling not pins not wins not escapes or reverse none of the top tens I I just I just did my thing I guess but you have the wall charts and that's the charts which if you need to write us to write a letter of recommendation to your parents we say they make the wall in the uh in the man cave I think dad's got bigger plans for these well also the fact that I think dad would uh have a connection if I tried to hammer a nail into any of these pieces of woods so I'm gonna I'm gonna let him decide that oh well color me shocked here at 135 we have a sectional C sectional rematch I'm guessing uh Kate Starbacher hmm a familiar name four to one over a Brandon Arnt of a Cashton in the finals Brandon Arns I battled with so much the year before um I can't remember if I wrestled him three times or twice but I the the year before I beat him at the team sectional and then lost to him in overtime at the individual sectional that year.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:45

Like six foot like lanky for 135 super lanky and he's he's exact he was my kryptonite he was that leg rider that was just miserable to be on bottom against um and Cade was the strong athlete that Cade is uh you know he he obviously would go on to win two but he was just uh a super athlete super strategic didn't I I don't know if he didn't want to deal with the leg excuse me the leg riding as well but he was strategic in in his wrestling um those two those two you knew were kind of on a collision course even after uh the the sectional the week before I will say the next uh what what stuck out was um Brandon Orange's first match was Kurt Bloomer. Uh that was the kid that I had in the semis the two years prior. That's the kid that got me at team state the year before uh and was a super tough wrestler the fact that he had to wrestle a rent right away is just an awful draw for him and I he would have lost uh who would he have lost to Steve at sectionals would he have lost to Van he would have lost to Van S right or and aft and aft yeah well it'd been Oostberg and yeah bloomer so right stone though they would have been the same sectional yeah so those those that would have been a uh very interesting sectional it seems like and the fact that Kurt got third in that one is crazy to me um uh the I I I don't know the kid but I see the name and it's a noak from Edgar so that that vibes with that doesn't help that yeah exactly so that that makes sense um but yeah that we we knew though that arent and uh Sarbacher were on a collision course and in in that in that bracket I wonder who Cade's only loss was to this year at well here let me text him also that you keep going I'll mute myself um by the way is Cade at least for this generation was he the start of the Starbucker run Curtis sorry I'll make you on beautiful yeah Tucker and Sawyer are his brothers and then Shania came through I don't know if she was sibling yeah she's sibling it's funny I start looking at this stuff and I get caught down a rabbit hole right oh man reminiscent I remember this I remember that I love this text from Curtis hey buddy uh hope things are going well yeah hey who'd you lose to we're doing a podcast who's your only loss to your junior year yeah that's exactly Teague likes to only talk about losses from people oh hey mineral point add another one to the board yeah another sectional rematch and don't know how dominant it was but it was a pin in 301 we got greg Burke of mineral point pin in 301 over Justin Flock of Cashton crazy uh so that was a rematch again Greg uh took it to him pretty good at the sectional great greg Burke is when I say I wasn't an athlete Greg Burke was is still is um he was a he was fast as hell strong as hell and still is to this day um he uh he would go on or he would go on to wrestle at UW uh helps us still to this day in town um and just he he did the one thing you're not supposed to do in that match I remember it he had a whizzer on and whizzer in and then stepped over like you're not supposed to and then somehow put a flock to his back um so he he would go on to win the state tournament next year um as well hoogdoll also was a stud I'm pretty sure or maybe I'm thinking of a different hoogdoll from Turtle Lake um but I remember that name for sure as well um the thing about Greg too so like the funny thing is and it's it's a running joke here I never won a match in the wrestling room and that's that during practice that's a fact because that like I I joke with like Nate Chambers and uh Corey and Justin Sokol Colby McReynolds uh all those guys placed high or one state uh greg was the worst to have to deal with I didn't get a takedown on him in the practice room all year I didn't take him down once during live it was mis it was miserable for me and Schmiddy can tell you this for sure I would try to sneak off to catch a breather and wrestle some other kid and Schmidty would say no get back with Greg. Gosh darn all right and there I go just getting bullied and just beat the snot out of in the room again.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:30

So he was he was one of a kind Steve you see a familiar last name in here from the southeast side of the state no what do you got deppies from random lake oh well yeah okay I thought you were trying to well I thought you were talking about for Hagan but then I I'm like that's not southeast what are you talking about hey we got uh

SPEAKER_01 2:12:00

Uh Sean Oktoberg in the chat. Sean, glad to see you, bud.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:05

Hold on. I'm um I see what he's writing. Hold on. Let me see this.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:10

I think he wrote what you said during the 30-second delay.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So thank you for that reminder, Sean. I greatly appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:22

Hey, Curtis, question for you. Do you know Greg Burks only loss this year?

SPEAKER_00 2:12:28

Uh yeah, I do. Uh his only loss would have been to uh um the four-timer from uh Luxembourg Casco.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:37

Sabula. At uh Cheesehead, probably, huh?

SPEAKER_00 2:12:40

At Cheesehead, yes.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:43

Epic.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:45

So yeah, just uh stud. 145 pounds. We almost got this one on the show here tonight to talk about this. Uh Joe Clothier, clothier from Clinton, 14 to 1 major decision. My word, over Kyle Pasick from Michigan. I you know, I've heard about Joe Clothier before, and I I knew he was good, didn't know he was this good. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:17

Joe was Joe was legit, man. He he might have gone to wrestle a little bit, I think, at uh northern Illinois.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:27

Yeah, he went somewhere big. It was a two-timer.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:30

Yep, two-timer, I think it was northern Illinois. Um he is a coach administrator somewhere now. I can't remember. Um but another one that was one of my really good friends at the time, too, where like uh we went to we would have gone to uh uh UW Parkside camp together. He had a bunch of the Clinton boys, and I was there and just hung out with all those guys, like Virgil Pope and and whatnot. And uh um hung out, we're good friends with him, Sarbacher. Uh we we were a close group. Uh the Wannekee boys were were with that with us in that Casper. Like it was just it was it was uh kind of funny how close we were, realistically. We and I think it helped too, the fact that we were all at different weight classes, so we were just shooting with each other. Um so it was a lot of fun. Uh Kate just texted me, by the way. Uh, it was she said finals Dalton Bullard.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:45

Probably from out of state, then I'm guessing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:48

Out of state, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:50

Google says Joe is the A D at Lin, the Lincoln Academy in Bolivia.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:55

Lincoln Academy, okay. That makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:57

Oh, because they just started their program a couple years ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:01

Yep. So good. Awesome dude. Love Joe to death. I wish uh I haven't talked to him forever, but uh I I'd love to see him again. He he's an awesome dude, man. Uh hold on. Kate Kate is texting me.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:20

Um man. Well, while you're waiting for that, Curtis, uh, got Dusty Rager in the bracket here from God's Country. I won't say anything about his state performance, or I'll be three hours up north this weekend with no place to stay. So Dusty, glad to see you in the state bracket. St.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:42

Croix Falls, now in division one, folks.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:46

Uh Kate Cade was saying too, he should have gotten two on a head throw to win. Uh ref didn't give him the call. Still pretty questionable call.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:56

So we uh man. Yeah, we I opened Pandora's box with that one.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:01

Yeah, you you you have this coming. If you get a phone call from Cade, I didn't give him your number, so don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_01 2:16:12

I'll message him after the show. I should. Oh Lord.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:17

Hey, T 152 is uh is a fun one.

SPEAKER_01 2:16:23

I think that's what the kids like to call rage bait in wrestling. Like, yeah, tell us about this. Uh you won a lot of matches, but tell us about this loss.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:31

For sure. But before you go off from 145, too, um, a lot of names that are really good in this. Um, Aaron Kurston from Boyceville uh just ran into a better wrestler in Pee-Wee Bolant, Tyler Bolant from Iowa Grant, who was a stud. Um, why does uh I'm looking at Vander Blumen and I feel like it should say Random Lake under his name, not Coleman, because Vander Blumen sounds like a random lake name, but I I digress. Yeah, or Kakana. Uh Craig Watry also was a was a really good wrestler, as well, if I remember correctly. So um uh Kate also said that Dalton admitted it, that's all I needed at the time, so he's good. He's good. Um, but no, this was this was a sneaky good bracket, and just the thing was there was Joe Clothier, and then there was everyone else. That was how good Joe was.

SPEAKER_01 2:17:35

Good stuff. And they're also I know there's a Tim Clothier that wrestled later on while I was in high school. 152. I do have a little lore on this one. Steve, I'll let you take it first here. Curtis, uh, we've talked about good athletes a lot in this one. Don't know if there's many better athletes, regardless of division, than state champ Andrew Lucasco from Edgar. 4-3 win over Chris Carl from Auburnale.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:06

And the fun, sorry to step on you, Steve. But the funny thing is, like, as good of a match as Chris Carl and Lucasco was, because it was a great match, four to three, and it was really good. All eyes were on the semifinal the night before. Oh, between Lu.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:26

Yeah, I heard uh Stoppemore and someone told me that Stoppemore and Joe Mabry of Unity had a pretty epic like conference rivalry and they met in the state finals. But is that the match you're talking about, Curtis?

SPEAKER_00 2:18:42

The Stoppelmore Lucasco match, because I believe both were returning state champs. Am I right on that, Steve? Stoppelmore was a two-timer, went down to wrestle for the Badgers.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:52

Yep. Yes, Stoppelmore and Lucasco. All eyes were on that match for D3. Uh Stoppelmore and Lucasco, and Lucasco just kind of outshined him in that match. I don't know if you got anything to add, Steve.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:05

No, it was he was he was he just uh he was just an intimidating presence. He just looked like a a middle linebacker for uh for a D1 program at 152 pounds. He was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:17

Yeah, and and uh again, Stoppemore was a was an awesome wrestler too in his own right. Um and it was it was one of those matches that everyone was looking forward to watching, and Lucasco kind of took it to him. Lucasco had a great had a tough uh route, anyways, because he had Danny Sullivan from Point, who the next year would go on to win a state title. Danny would wrestle all the way back for fifth. Um, and Chris Carl, I mean, it's a Carl, so from Auburnale still. You know, like ho hum, they're they're gonna be good at wrestling. If your last name's Carl and you're from Auburnale, that it's it just makes sense. Um Brandon Waylou was also a tough wrestler as well. Um that uh he just he he was one of those studs that um was really another stalwart in that Iowa Grant lineup back then as well. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:20

Hey, and I was gonna say this even before Sean reminded me, I was gonna throw this out there. But uh I did have this down. I just thought of this. Uh, I'm gonna give Wrightstown a little uh little um home cooking here. But Kyle Camps was the starting quarterback for Wrightstown when they won the state championship that year. But I just thought of this, Teague and Curtis. It's kind of interesting. 1998 and 2020 or 2006, Wrightstone won state championships in both football, wrestling, and wrestling those two years. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_00 2:20:48

That's that's awesome. Good cross there, but but but truth be told, just I and I'm going on a tangent here like I always do, hence anytime you guys have me on, it's always a three-hour pod. But um look at Stratford. Stratford had that run a little while, and Stratford was they had they had a football run where it was it Bauman, and I'm assuming a few others that I can't remember, that they were great at football, they were also gonna be really, really good at wrestling.

SPEAKER_01 2:21:24

Six titles in a row for Stratford, one or five or six they had around this time.

SPEAKER_00 2:21:32

And and they were they were down at this point, but then they look prior to like 2000, 2001, 2002, they were really they were team state uh stalwarts as well, and then later on they would build back up, and the football and the wrestling would coincide with each other for sure.

SPEAKER_01 2:21:54

I'll just close off at this weight, Lucasco at just uh a lower division school's dream. I mean, he uh obviously we see how good he was in wrestling, uh a record holder in the hurdles and track and field. And uh in football, he ended up uh playing for the Badgers.

SPEAKER_00 2:22:13

Uh head coach now at Edgar as well. I was actually I I got to talk to him not this past state tournament, but the state tournament before. Him and I talked for a half hour just in the back coaches area, and it was it was really cool to talk to him and just reminisce a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 2:22:29

I think obviously great physical athlete, but I've listened to that dude like coaches track athlete, and I think the most impressive part about him might be his brain. Like that guy is levels above where I could ever dream to be. 160 pounds. Uh Luke Haig of Michigott, three to two over a Travis Halverson, Iowa Grant.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:05

Curtis, Luke Haig. Taking a little bit of the uh Curtis Fiedler approach to winning a state championship.

SPEAKER_00 2:23:12

Yeah, and yeah, and then uh well he his semi-fin or his quarter was uh no, his semi was a little better than mine, or no, it would have been his quarter, I'm sorry. Um but Travis Holverson uh was lanky, super, super lanky and super strong. Uh still helps with uh Iowa Grand Island wrestling, or I think he still helps. If not, he he was at at one point. Um Luke Hag was he was super tough. And this is where I messed up when I said Gabe Dean. Cody Dean is the one I was thinking of. Because did Cody Dean make it to a final the next year?

SPEAKER_02 2:23:48

Uh the name is very familiar, the Dean name. Um obviously Laconia was the other one, but Manawa. Um yeah, they're a distance from each other.

SPEAKER_00 2:23:58

Yeah, but uh that's that's where I must have got mixed up. But uh again, uh was cheering on Trav in that one as well. Wanted to see him come away at the victory, but heck, it was it was a good match, regardless.

SPEAKER_01 2:24:14

A lot of familiar last names here where uh Groshek, I know I've heard it in Stevens Point, but Roshold not far from Stevens Point. We got Dustin Groshek and Kurt is some sectional C action. Nick Moore is younger brother, Christian Moore. He was a tank, undefeated state champ as a senior, and Joel Mindham. I know there's quite a few Mindems that have made their Joel Mindham from Boscabel was a good was a good wrestler at the time, too, for sure. Owen Wood from Clear Lake. I don't know, there's there's a few Woods out there.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:47

So well, Groschek, you might be thinking there's a um kid from Amherst that went on to play football for the Badgers with the last name Groschek.

SPEAKER_01 2:24:55

Garrett Groshek, I know uh an old Adams friendship wrestling coach, I think Sean Groschek.

SPEAKER_00 2:25:01

Sean Groschek, yep. Uh he's still the AD there, they're correct, or did he go to he might have gone somewhere else, I forget. I don't know what Sean's up to nowadays. Because he he would have been the contact for the Dell's duels back in the day.

SPEAKER_01 2:25:18

Steve, use your old uh Google machine and see what you can figure out.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:23

Oh, sorry, who are we talking about? I'm I was I was Sean Groschak. Sean Groschak.

SPEAKER_01 2:25:28

All right, here we go. In the meantime, 171 pounds. AJ Kissle from Oosburg, a 10-0 win over a Jeremiah Adrian from the center of Wisconsin at Pittsville in the finals. Heritage Christian. I don't know if I I don't know if this is a school that still wrestles or if they just came back, but well, you're gonna see Heritage Christian later on as you go down.

SPEAKER_00 2:25:58

Um, and Kissle, this would have been number two for him that of the eventual three, and he would go on to wrestle at Purdue. He was he was amazing. Oh, he was super good. Um credit to one of my assistant coaches, TJ Book Burke, who didn't he wanted him for so uh and had good matches with him at the state tournament as well. Um, but uh, but just super tough. Jeremiah Adrian was good too. That's the thing. Like and A and AJ just took it to him. Um so yeah, uh super, super good wrestler was AJ Kissel. Um and I'm not sure how he did at Purdue, but you know, he he absolutely warranted that they wanted him.

SPEAKER_01 2:26:53

I'm trying to think because I've seen a couple Shell Lakes, Unity, Turtle Lake. What is that conference? It's not like is it just the lake conference, or no, there's something with it. But if they put together a super team, they'd have a pretty solid squad.

SPEAKER_00 2:27:09

Yep, yep. Jason Campbell, too. Uh uh, the one that loose lost to Scoglin in the uh quarters as well. Uh would be uh Jeff Campbell's younger brother, uh, who coached at Riverdale, super intended at Riverdale now, but awesome wrestler in his own right at that time, too. Just ran into some tough kids, man.

SPEAKER_01 2:27:35

189 pounds down.

SPEAKER_02 2:27:39

AJ Kissle. Oh, just real quick, AJ Kissle was 85 and 44 in college, and it was a four-time national qualifier. Never played.

SPEAKER_00 2:27:46

There you go. So he had he had a great career there, man.

SPEAKER_01 2:27:51

189 Rory Edge of Iowa Grant, 7-1 over Amanawaz at Justin Hartwig.

SPEAKER_00 2:28:02

Rory Edge was a bear. He was absolutely bear. Um just like he was he wasn't necessarily tall. Uh he 5'10, 5'11, but just he was just a bear. Just so good and and agile for his size, too, which was probably the more impressive thing. Hartwig was a stud too. Um Rory would go on to win his second the next year, um in at 189, I'm pretty sure, as well. Too just again, a lot of Iowa Grant that you've seen in this uh they had four in the finals for this tournament. So, like right? Yeah, they would add four. They went two and two. Um so just super, super good. Um yeah, that's that's the biggest thing that uh stands out for me. I'm trying to think of some of the other names that we have a Cinnamon appearance in here.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:04

Didn't Curry just have a shape, his body just kind of went, it was like a bot, wasn't he just kind of like straight up and it was his shoulders were stage?

SPEAKER_00 2:29:12

Yeah, he just he he was a mountain, man. He was just you're right, and the funny thing is good, a good he was like a dancing bear. He would just like he was a bear, he was a bear. And the funny thing is, like, we'll go to 285, and that you want to talk about a mountain. I I I I said Rory was a mountain, but nothing compared to 285 when we get there. Um, and of course, I see uh a noak from Edgar again, go figure. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:39

Teague, I got a uh trivia question for you. Name a state champ that scored the same amount of points in all three of his matches in route to a state championship. I'm gonna guess Rory Edge here.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:53

Keep it simple, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:54

That would have been great if it was seven to one for all three of them.

SPEAKER_01 2:29:57

You want to shoot a text to Kate Starbacher and ask him who Rory Edge's only loss was.

SPEAKER_00 2:30:05

Well, I hope he's watching now after I text him.

SPEAKER_01 2:30:09

I uh, you know what, just based off why you guys describe Rory Edge, I don't think I'm gonna poke that bear. So don't don't poke that bear.

SPEAKER_00 2:30:17

Hey, just looking in the chat too. Sean was saying AJ Kissle's cousin or related. Yeah, Pete Rogers, who was a three-timer for Wootsburg, and uh Pete would go on to Russ or uh be assistant coach at Purdue. He was also, was he head coach at Lakeland College, I think, at some point as well?

SPEAKER_01 2:30:34

Yep, I don't remember how long, but he was Lakeland head coach. Speaking of Lakeland, uh Lakeland Conference is what I was looking for with TLC and Unity and Shell Lake.

SPEAKER_00 2:30:45

Yeah, yeah. Oh, Casper, Rory's Ah, that a boy, David. Yep, you're right. Uh Casper's only uh, or Casper, you beat him, right, David? At at uh Cheesehead? That was I'm pretty sure that was Casper. What was the score of that? Because that had to be a fun one to watch. Did you guys just take a coach bus to the cheese head or what? We might as well have. But the thing was, there wasn't as many out of state teams at the cheese head as there was as there are now. I think the the couple teams that were out of state was Owatana and was Apple Valley there at the time.

SPEAKER_02 2:31:32

Could have been. Yeah, it's really expanded. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 2:31:35

I can't I can't remember, but there was, or no, not Apple Valley, I'm sorry, Montini. Um, it would have been Montini, Illinois, and uh, what's his name, who's big in MMA now, was the head coach at the time. Um, he's John Jones's wrestling coach, or was John Jones's wrestling coach um for MMA. Uh why am I brain farting on this? Uh I cannot I do not know Evan.

SPEAKER_02 2:32:09

David said yes. That was uh he did beat him in the final.

SPEAKER_00 2:32:16

Yeah, that yeah, I I'd love to see video of that one. That's fun. And again, that that's the beauty of cheese. That was the beauty of cheese. Izzy, Izzy, yes. Uh Izzy Wrestling, that's who it was. So Izzy was the head coach of uh uh Montini, and he would step away, but uh I I he runs a club down there now, but he was also uh uh worked for um uh Winkle John as John Joseph Jones' wrestling coach for the for UFC uh at the time and and cornered him a few times during UFC his UFC run. Um so it's uh so I would love to have seen the Rory Edge, David Casper uh final at Chi said. And again, she said not as uh it was big, don't get me wrong, but there wasn't as many out of state as there is now, where uh it was more so like you're gonna see state champ, you're gonna see Wisconsin number one versus Wisconsin number one in different divisions, which made it a lot of fun. Um, so yeah, super, super still, still an awesome tournament then, but it's taken a few steps since then.

SPEAKER_01 2:33:37

I uh I obviously in these brackets, which oh right, yeah, make makes sense as to why they uh almost walked through a state title this year.

SPEAKER_00 2:33:49

Yeah, rightstown won the team state that in 06 as well. And then um they moved up to D2 the next year.

SPEAKER_01 2:33:57

Dare dare I say a long term Steve? Lurkwin effect there. Well, you know. Not really. Wait, did Wrightstown go up to D2 because they won state in D three? No, no.

SPEAKER_00 2:34:11

Is he no, no, no. They they've grown so much since then. Well, and you know. I mean, I'll tell you this.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:20

It's halfway between Green Bay and Wrightstown, and everybody figured out it's a great place to live, and you can commute. So that's kind of that's kind of what happened.

SPEAKER_01 2:34:32

215. Man, fell, I'm hitting the wall a little bit. We're almost there. We're almost there. We got this. The penultimate weight class. Oh my gosh. Is this the Hinderman? Here we go. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. My lord. Well, this is Father's son. First and foremost, Stefan Geisler of Cadot. Five to two over Dustin Bauman. There's the Stratford name. To win a title for the Cadot senior.

SPEAKER_00 2:35:09

Yeah, that was another one I think people were looking forward to as well. Because I don't know if they had met earlier. Um, but that was one that a a lot of people were looking forward to to watch. Uh, Drew Henderman, you nailed it, is uh is Brock's dad. Um awesome family. I love that family. Brock, it's so funny how similar Drew and Brock are as far as personality. It's it's hilarious to me almost. Um just smart Alex through and through and love him to death because of it.

SPEAKER_02 2:35:44

Um Curtis Wallman seen camp the year before. I believe he was.

SPEAKER_00 2:35:53

Or he might have had a brother, I don't know. Um but but yeah, that that was another one that people were looking forward to to see, to see how it would go. Um I feel like uh I'm just looking through this here a little bit. Um the craycraft or the yeah, the craycraft kid was also a really good wrestler as well. He must have lost a ballman at sectionals and had to go through that way. So and and gave Geisler a hell of a match, nine to eight in the semis.

SPEAKER_01 2:36:33

Double little alliteration, Chad Craycraft from Crandit.

SPEAKER_00 2:36:37

Yeah, say that ten times.

SPEAKER_02 2:36:41

You know, guys, I I obviously I love the seating because it gets the right people in the finals and the right people were supposed to meet. But one thing I do miss about it is that you can figure out real quick. Like I can take a look and say, oh, Dustin Ballman, he was the number one guy, and he must have beat uh Chad Craycraft from Camden and Chris Weber from Michigan. You know, you just know it. Just know who he wrestled in the sectional. We can't figure that out now.

SPEAKER_01 2:37:06

I uh yeah, Steve, I'm I'm with you on that one. But I think I think my Wisconsin geography is sound enough where I I try and figure out that puzzle still.

SPEAKER_02 2:37:16

Right. Well, but it's harder though. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, especially with them switching up the sectionals a lot, but oh yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 2:37:24

Now that there's seven section holes. Um Weston, its own program back then. Yeah, If again and Weston were not together at that time. And last but not least, oh, I gotta say with uh Hinderman too, uh Brock Hinderman, he was at state track for I'd love to see a 215-pounder just throw lat drops all day.

SPEAKER_00 2:37:46

I I got a story about Brock quick, because Brock this tells you like Drew was just the funny, hilarious guy when we were in high school, and this tells you how how far the apple did not fall from the tree. Sectionals, team sectionals last year, where we faced IG in the sectional finals. Is this when he winked at you? Yes, this is when he winked at me. All right. So there's that story. I'm I'm barking for cautions. Uh uh, Ryan's brother's barking for cautions, and as I'm barking, uh Brock just looks over and smiles at me, and I'm like, you little stinker.

SPEAKER_02 2:38:30

And then the funny thing is something else, but yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 2:38:34

Correct. Uh baseball this past spring, last uh first game with IG, last out in the seventh, or one out, or two outs in the seventh, and Hinderman's up, and I'm you know, cheering, I'm in the dugout, yelling, hey, great play, let's finish this off now. And he smiles at me again, just because they were down 5'2, something like that. 5'1 smiles at me again, and then the next pitch he put over the wall, and just funniest thing in the world, but just I like he's just that kid, and he and it's tough not to cheer for him, um, outside of when he's wrestling us. So, like, it just it's it's funny how how similar they are.

SPEAKER_01 2:39:30

I saw him at state track, and I asked him, like, what brings you here? He's like, I just wanted to come check it out, which was awesome as a track guy. And then he was helping people, like, he helped me fill up my water bottle, like they were running out in the big jug, and he like tilted it for me. And then he helped like five other kids after, like, he just didn't stop.

SPEAKER_00 2:39:52

Good dude, just a super good kid.

SPEAKER_01 2:39:55

Oh, I I love Brock Enderman. Yes, two to 75. Last but not least, we got the big boys. Well, there it is, Curtis. Willie McCormick, heritage Christian, five to three over Aaron Toll of Laconia, 43-0, 44-2. That's a clash of the Titans, if I've seen one. William McCormick's a large man.

SPEAKER_00 2:40:23

Oh, he was a mountain, he was huge, and the funny thing is, Aaron Toll was tall. He was 6'4 and just just built, but uh just also just a super great bracket if you look at it. Derek Laufenberg from Cash In was a stud who had to run into McCormick, he would go on to get fifth. Um uh Cody Soderstrom was also a stud from Iowa Grant, so it was a really, really good bracket all together, and and those two just uh were were uh just uh ended up getting through that barrage that they had to go through right from the rest of the bracket and and face each other, and and it was uh it was a good final.

SPEAKER_01 2:41:13

Bro, Laufenbergs and Cashtons, oh my Lanta. They're still there. There, yeah, there's a sophomore that runs track, oh, he plays football for them too. That does not look like a sophomore. And uh Soderstrom, I usually associate that with the Lancaster Bull Rider.

SPEAKER_00 2:41:34

Yeah, yes, yeah. Uh oh gosh, when when you guys cover that, yeah, uh, when you guys cover that state, whatever state tournaments he was in, his senior year, he probably would have been the favorite had he not popped his shoulder out earlier in the year. Um and you saw Coach Sturmer like once every three matches would have to pop his shoulder back in. Oh it was one of the toughest dudes you'll ever come across, but that's for it, that's for a different state state tournament conversation.

SPEAKER_01 2:42:11

Yeah, that that year it'll be a lot of Lancaster. Whenever that will. Yes, it will. Steve, you got anything on this one? All I see is uh Ithaca has their representative here.

SPEAKER_02 2:42:25

No, the only note I had, it was it was kind of your typical heavyweight bracket. You see a lot of close scores. You got eight to six, you got three to two, right? This guy's uh guy's taking the Curtis Fiedler approach to winning up at heavyweight.

SPEAKER_01 2:42:40

Looks smarter, not harder. I saw uh, I don't know if he's still in here, but Vance Groove was watching, who was a hammer from Wisconsin Rapids, which got uh Steve. I mean, we're gonna do all these years at some point, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:42:55

We'll get there. I mean, I we might not go back to the 60s, maybe not even the 70s, but we'll we'll hit them. We'll have people on to talk about those years in general. Maybe, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 2:43:04

Uh oh, that's it, fellas. We made it about two hours and uh 45 minutes. Setting a new record. Teague, I will not apologize because I knew uh what we were getting ourselves into when I texted Curtis.

SPEAKER_02 2:43:23

Teague, put it in the message, break it down by division. People can listen to what they want to. But uh Teague Sporting talking about merch, mineral point merch. I did not go that route. I didn't want to be too much of a homer, make Curtis too uh too happy, but I went with my Reedsville, Panther Nation, Panther Gang.

SPEAKER_01 2:43:40

Love it. But I guess our quick plugs, and then we'll all say our goodbyes and whatnot. But I think now we're gonna try to get. I know Hawken Peterson is gonna be wrestling in Pan Amps. So I don't know if he'll be our first four-time. Well, we will be reaching out to the four timers now to get him on. And uh I think that's our we'll see if uh Cleaver's free for a Fargo recap or whatnot. Uh yeah, we are Steve, we're two months away from sectional preview season.

SPEAKER_02 2:44:11

I know that's crazy when you start thinking about it. About a month we start doing shout-outs. Lordy. Which means wrestling is about a hundred days away once we start doing shoutouts.

SPEAKER_01 2:44:22

Curtis, I hope you had as much fun as we did here.

SPEAKER_00 2:44:26

It's it's it's fun reminiscing like that. It really is. It just uh it takes me back to all those sure, like the being able to win it that year is great, but like just the looking back at all the connections you make back then is is something special, and and just the the being able to talk about all these guys you remember, and like connecting with uh a guy that I haven't talked to in 20 years, and Casper in the in the chat's pretty cool. Uh it's it's just good stuff to to reminisce about some of that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 2:45:03

Kids and parents in the moment, like I I tell like my track parents this and like they and they'll be like, yeah, like this is my kid's life right now. I'm like, I get that, and like the kids like they think about their results a lot. I'm like, guys, like even five years down the road, you're gonna think of 800 other things about this sport before before you think about your results again. Like it really is like just the the stroll down memory lane and like all the like you said, the connections and memories that come with it, Curtis. Like that's that's where it's at, man. But on that on the other side of that coin to be able to like talk about like the accomplishments here of these folks and whatnot, like it's it's good stuff. Steve, you got anything? No, I think we might just be talked out. We might we might have talked out the mouth of the south.

SPEAKER_02 2:46:07

But it's it's Curtis, you should write a book sometime on wrestling strategy. That's what uh that's uh I know I've talked about that numerous times. It's like I I sit back and I watch I watch the strategy you do. I that's why I I think as good of a strategic wrestler you were, probably you're that's why you're so good as a coach when you do it. Um, you know, because it's it it it makes sense that you won match, like you say. I wasn't that good of an athlete, but I could win matches because you're always thinking about it. You're probably like playing chess while everybody else is playing checkers, so to speak, as far as a wrestler. And I think that has transformed over as far as coaching, coaching for you. Because you you do things sometimes and it's like, okay, I can that guy knows strategy when it comes to wrestling.

SPEAKER_00 2:46:48

So coaching's tougher, man. Like uh you're involved in 14 matches, and thank God I got the coaches and people around me that that allow it to make it easier and and can lean on them quite a bit. Uh so it's it's uh it's I don't get me wrong, I take some of that into my coaching stuff, but thank god I got those guys.

SPEAKER_01 2:47:15

Well, Chris, I'm glad we sent that text. I'm glad we got you on for it because Steve and I have fun reminiscing to get someone that was like there and knew a lot of the guys like that, that added a really fun element to it tonight. So yeah, again, sorry I made it three hours, but uh no, no apologizing.

SPEAKER_00 2:47:35

Steve, you you knew what you were signing up for when I when you sent the text. You and Steve both knew what you were signing up for.

SPEAKER_01 2:47:43

And I think going forward now, we plan a little more, and I know you sent a few texts out to people. It could be a four-hour episode if we start getting other champs on to talk about their brackets. Uh I I don't care. That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 2:47:59

That's what she's all about.

SPEAKER_01 2:48:01

So that's what we're here for. Uh I think it's dinner and bedtime for all of us. So I want to thank everyone who tuned in, whether it's for one weight class, one division, or the whole shebang. It was a fun one tonight. We'll be back at some juncture. But in the meantime, Steve had a little have a little golf tourney up in God's country next Monday. So we'll be about five hours away from Mineral Point, Curtis, up in St. Croix Falls.

SPEAKER_00 2:48:28

Oh, enjoy. Enjoy. Hey, I got to see him, I got to see him last week. So uh uh just always enjoy my time with him. And Cleek uh Kluskins was there, and uh the all the boys of the WWA, and and you know, I I strongly recommend that anyone that's watching continue to support the Wisconsin Wrestling Association and and sign up and be involved, and and all the all the things that they're doing. Uh Hanson, Loloff, all those guys are they're so involved, and and it's it it's really humming right now, and it's a joy to to be a part of the sport.

SPEAKER_01 2:49:15

Good note to end on there. Fellas, you all have a great night. Folks listening, you have a great night, and until next time, we will catch you on the flip side.