S6-E6: An Inside Look at Jewelers for Children

In this episode of For the Love of Jewelers, host Mark Nelson sits down with Jewelers for Children Executive Director Sara Murphy for an inspiring conversation about the organization’s mission, impact, and growth. Sara shares a bit about her own background and how she became part of JFC, which was founded in 1999. Together, they discuss the incredible work JFC continues to do for children in need, how the jewelry community has supported the cause over the years, and how you can get involved in making a difference.  

Transcript

00:00:00:01 - 00:00:24:05
Sara
The simplest way to describe JFC is that we're really bringing the jewelry industry together to make sure that kids who need help get what they need. This year, we brought on four new nonprofit partners. One of them works on childhood literacy. One of them works with kids experiencing food insecurity. One of them does college preparatory work. The fourth one is with kids in the foster care system to ensure they have what they need, right?

00:00:24:05 - 00:00:45:22
Sara
I really made a choice to work at organizations that were dealing with people who had experienced trauma and giving them tools to work through it, and that's actually what JFC does. That's what we're funding at JFC. So it's a good continuation.

00:00:46:00 - 00:00:59:01
Mark
Hi, everybody. Welcome to another episode of For the Love of Jewelers. I'm your host, Mark Nelson. Intimate. Today I have with me the executive director of jewelers for children, Sarah Murphy. Hi, Sarah. How are you doing?

00:00:59:03 - 00:01:00:09
Sara
Great. How are you doing, Mark?

00:01:00:13 - 00:01:22:07
Mark
It's doing great. It's so wonderful to see you and be able to talk to you. I have been a huge fan and supporter of jewelers for children for almost my entire jewelry career. When I even started in the little small shop shops in Flagstaff, Arizona, all the, all the stores I worked with had that little tin can, that you put your extra change in.

00:01:22:07 - 00:01:40:21
Mark
You know, we might, we want we might come back to that topic a little bit later, but yeah, I'd love to. So I've seen that logo for 30 years, you know, and then I was at JC one year and ran The Rings of Strength. Yeah. That didn't go well. I survived and I made it across the line, and that's where I'm going.

00:01:40:21 - 00:01:42:13
Mark
I'm going to leave it at that.

00:01:42:15 - 00:01:45:00
Sara
That's all that matters.

00:01:45:02 - 00:02:04:07
Mark
So yeah, I've been I've been aware of jewelers for children for for many decades. And, I really love, learning more about, how you're contributing to the industry and helping all the children and all that other stuff. You okay with that? If I just kind of lead you right into the first question?

00:02:04:09 - 00:02:05:07
Sara
Yeah. Above that. Thanks.

00:02:05:08 - 00:02:21:00
Mark
Okay. So before we get started, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and your journey? How did you find your way into the jewelry industry and eventually to JFC? And for people who are listening, JC stands for jewelers for children.

00:02:21:02 - 00:02:49:01
Sara
It's a long name. We don't see a lot. So I started out working in the arts. I was lucky enough to have a beautiful baby girl at some point, and, moved into more classic nonprofit work. At that time, I worked at a school for low income boys in New York City and then went on to work in a number of nonprofits as sort of the head fundraiser, the director of development, and was looking for an executive director job.

00:02:49:01 - 00:03:08:14
Sara
I was ready to move into, a role where I was running things and jewelers for children just sort of appeared at the right time. I met so many board members over my interview process and fell in love with just the industry and the people and how incredibly kind everyone was. So I feel very lucky to be here.

00:03:08:20 - 00:03:13:20
Sara
I'm still learning jewelry. We can't do any jewelry questions in the podcast, but the nonprofit somehow got them.

00:03:13:22 - 00:03:26:00
Mark
That's a whole different skill level, man. It's like, we can't you can't do your job without that. How did you get started in nonprofit stuff? I mean, it kind of seemed like a little bit of a leap.

00:03:26:02 - 00:03:47:00
Sara
Yeah. So I, I got my master's degree in arts administration, which is the running of nonprofit arts organizations. And I did that for a few years, and it was great. But I realized that I wanted to be helping more people. Right. And that was easier to do, sort of in the nonprofit sector if I ventured outside the arts.

00:03:47:02 - 00:04:04:06
Sara
So, I, I really made a choice to work at organizations that were dealing with people who had experienced trauma and giving them tools to work through it. And that's actually what JFC does. That's what we're funding at JFC. So it's a good continuation.

00:04:04:08 - 00:04:09:10
Mark
Yeah, and JFC covers a lot of different, what do you call them? Grantors.

00:04:09:12 - 00:04:11:08
Sara
Yeah, we call our nonprofit partners.

00:04:11:14 - 00:04:21:16
Mark
Nonprofit partners. So I know Make-A-Wish is one of them. Organization for autism, Saint Jude's, what are some of the other ones?

00:04:21:18 - 00:04:47:13
Sara
Yeah. So we work really closely with Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric Aids Foundation. We're actually their largest independent funder. So over the past 27 years, we've given them more money than anyone but the federal government, which is it's a it's an exciting connection to have. And also, at times when that federal money is going away, they've been able to lean on us and we've been able to, to be active parts of the conversation.

00:04:47:15 - 00:05:08:09
Sara
We work with Make-A-Wish international. We, fund about 250 wishes a year in India, which is cool. A lot of the wishes in India are to have to have a computer to have a bike. And then this year we brought on four new nonprofit partners. This is their first year. It's a we call it a seed year.

00:05:08:11 - 00:05:30:15
Sara
But one of them works on childhood literacy. Right. Because we know that if kids don't learn to read by fourth grade, they're probably never going to learn to read. One of them works with kids experiencing food insecurity because he can't learn if you haven't eaten. One of them does, essentially college preparatory work, getting kids into an environment where they have everything they need.

00:05:30:15 - 00:05:49:06
Sara
It's a really holistic program. And then the fourth one, works with kids in the foster care system to ensure they have what they need. Right? So instead of moving their things in suitcases or in trash bags, they have suitcases, right? They have shoes that fit. They get to have experiences that kids in foster care often don't get to have.

00:05:49:08 - 00:06:17:21
Mark
Yeah. That's amazing. And there's some basic so much good stuff you guys are doing. I had a chance to listen to your podcast with Michelle Orman, with couture and you, you talked about the Make-A-Wish. Make-A-Wish is in India and how they that they like the things like a computer or something like that. And you mentioned that they like those things so they can just do online classes and participate in school and that kind of stuff.

00:06:17:23 - 00:06:39:14
Sara
Yeah. So it's kind of wild when we think about kids being sick, right? We think of kids experiencing illness. We always think of them laying in hospital beds. But the reality is it's not what that experience is for most children. So most kids that get wishes through Make-A-Wish go on to live long, healthy lives, right? A wish is part of the treatment.

00:06:39:16 - 00:07:07:03
Sara
And so I think these wishes to have are really investments in these kids futures too, right? Like if they can go to school, they're going to be better off, when they're feeling better. And not everyone feels better right away. Sometimes it takes a long time. Not everyone feels better, but for the most part, the point of a wish is really to give kids the ability to keep going and and take treatment and, sort of push through.

00:07:07:05 - 00:07:25:12
Mark
And it's amazing. And one of the cool things I loved about the website, I went to the jewelers for children website, and they list by state, all the wishes of granted what they wish for. And I, you know, looked at New Mexico right away and, one of them was, to host a party for homeless children.

00:07:25:14 - 00:07:28:19
Mark
That was her wish. That was just amazing.

00:07:28:21 - 00:07:56:21
Sara
Yeah. So many. The wishes are kind, right? Like, just think about yourself as a and and a lot of the wishes. JFC does, happen to be teenagers. Let's just sort of how it shakes down. But we had there was one wish where the, the wish kid was really interested in funding a shopping spree, but not for themselves, for their family, because over the years, their family had given up so much for their treatment and they wanted to give back to them.

00:07:57:02 - 00:08:10:12
Sara
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And I think about my 14 year old, like, would that occur to her? I don't know. But it's really incredible that these kids sort of like take the time to think about other people while they're going through so much.

00:08:10:14 - 00:08:21:23
Mark
I got another question for you. For people who aren't familiar with the JFC, how would you describe its mission? In simple terms, what is the heart of what you're trying to do? And I think you already touched on this a couple of times.

00:08:21:23 - 00:08:43:20
Sara
But yeah, I mean, the simplest way to describe JFC is that we're really bringing the jewelry industry together to make sure that kids who need help get what they need. And that's the that's the really simple part. We, did a rebrand this year, so we have a new logo and a new look, and we're working on a new website, which is all very exciting.

00:08:43:22 - 00:09:10:02
Sara
But part of that rebrand was a survey of the industry. And one of the things we heard in that survey was that people think of JFC as a way that we as an industry, come together, right? So f for philanthropy or being in the same room, right? It means more. And so I think a huge part of what we do is that sort of ability to bring people together, for something we all care about.

00:09:10:02 - 00:09:13:22
Sara
Right? Even if you don't want to be in a room with 500 kids, that's okay. I'm not judging.

00:09:14:01 - 00:09:14:17
Mark
Right?

00:09:14:19 - 00:09:19:12
Sara
But, Yeah, you said they are the future of what we do, right?

00:09:19:14 - 00:09:36:02
Mark
Yeah. So, you have a lot of donors and sponsors. I know the Rio Grande is, a big sponsor and Rich line and stellar and a bunch of other, entities. Jewelers mutual. How how are you connecting with the smaller entities? The mom and pop shops and things like that?

00:09:36:04 - 00:10:09:10
Sara
Yeah. Well, first of all, we need to get better at it. It's something that I think we're working on. So I've been at JFC a year and a half, and it's been an active conversation. Right? Like how can we be connecting, to these, these smaller shops or people that may not go to Vegas. Right. Our gala is in Vegas, and, and the beginning of JFC was really centered around that gala, a dinner we used to call it, but I think that we're working on programs that are not place specific.

00:10:09:10 - 00:10:21:00
Sara
Right. They have to do with what you're doing. So we're doing our rings of strength, which is our five K. We're doing that virtually this year. And we'll we'll send you your ring. How do you know the.

00:10:21:00 - 00:10:24:16
Mark
Usual five k you get to run around that?

00:10:24:18 - 00:10:33:07
Sara
Well, I mean, you do it out in your neighborhood maybe. And I say the I say the beginning of every rings of strength. We measure five K with our hearts, right? Which for five k means.

00:10:33:12 - 00:10:36:21
Mark
Mine was about 20ft.

00:10:36:23 - 00:11:04:20
Sara
But, we're working also, we did an online program last Halloween where people could donate $5 and $5 was a vote. And whichever of our panel got the most votes had to wear a silly costume, on Halloween to their office. Right. So we're thinking of ways to get the community more involved. We still do something called JFC Day in September, but this year we're switching it to JFK month the whole month of October.

00:11:04:22 - 00:11:17:06
Sara
And on our website, pretty soon, there'll be a list of things that you can do in your store or in your office or wherever you are to sort of celebrate JFC month with us. So we're thinking about it.

00:11:17:10 - 00:11:21:14
Mark
Yeah, I would people who are listening to the podcast find out about how to do that.

00:11:21:16 - 00:11:50:02
Sara
Yeah. So jewelers for children.org is our website. And we try to create like really easy to comprehend guides. Right. So you don't have to think too much about it because I think the biggest barrier to fundraising when you're a busy you're busy running a store and dealing with merchandise and customers. We really want to make it so that all you have to do is pick something off the list and, put together the pieces we give you and put it out there.

00:11:50:04 - 00:12:11:21
Mark
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00:12:12:00 - 00:12:25:10
Mark
Trust me guys, you guys are going to love these. I was on the website and it is very easy to navigate. It's one of the easiest ones I've ever been to. Is it? Is this the newest version that's out right now or no. So it's no get better.

00:12:25:12 - 00:12:38:06
Sara
Yeah. In the fall it'll be even better. And I think you'll be able to see the impact of what we do on the new website. Right. Like more pictures, more video. Because that's the best part, is seeing, you know, where the money goes and how it helps.

00:12:38:06 - 00:12:49:16
Mark
Yeah, yeah. And all the stories. And speaking of stories, do you have a favorite story of something that, JFK has done for somebody?

00:12:49:18 - 00:12:51:10
Sara
Yeah, I have so many favorite.

00:12:51:14 - 00:12:53:01
Mark
I know you have something like this.

00:12:53:05 - 00:13:17:18
Sara
It's a this is a rough one. I think one of my favorites is, if you look at the history of JFK, we've we have these nonprofit partners that we work with, and some of them we've worked with for 27 years. Right. So there are people, these organizations who have known JFK their whole careers, which is is kind of amazing.

00:13:17:18 - 00:13:44:11
Sara
Right. But one of those organizations is Elizabeth Glaser pediatric Aids. And, we had, a woman named Martha and her son Jude speak at our gala this year. And, Martha, was living in Africa. Her family was there. It's it's where she's from. And she, had experienced HIV in a bunch of pretty intense ways.

00:13:44:11 - 00:14:05:13
Sara
She was HIV positive. But because of the work of Elizabeth Glaser, she got to give birth to two HIV negative boys. And they now live here in the States. And we got to meet one of the boys, Duda, at the gala. And I cannot tell you how, like, funny and smart and incredible he was. How.

00:14:05:13 - 00:14:06:14
Mark
Old is he?

00:14:06:16 - 00:14:35:13
Sara
He's 14. He just turned 14. And one of the questions that our MC asked you to was, what do you like about your mom? And she said that he practiced and practiced, and most of his answers were jokes. Right. But, because he's a 14 year old. But when it came down to it, really, he was able to express how grateful he was that he had the opportunity to live a life where he wasn't thinking about, his health all the time.

00:14:35:13 - 00:15:02:13
Sara
Right? Like he had the opportunity to just be a 14 year old. And I, I am so proud of the work that we do to help kids who've experienced trauma. But I'm also really proud of the work that we do that is preventative. Right. So when you think about maternal care, especially in places where maternal care can be difficult to get, you're not just helping one person, you're helping two people, and then you're helping their families and their families.

00:15:02:13 - 00:15:09:05
Sara
So community, is that on him? Yeah, exactly. That one in particular I think is has been really special.

00:15:09:06 - 00:15:17:21
Mark
That's awesome. And then I heard the story about the cheerleader and the host. They got the was that was that a local jewelry store that helped put that together.

00:15:17:22 - 00:15:36:19
Sara
Was it was John Mays Jewelers. And, so Jamie's Jewelers did a website and they found out the wish kid, really like cheerleaders. So they had the high school cheerleaders greet her at the door of when she came. And, which was incredible. And we I mean, there have been so many wishes where the jewelers have gone above and beyond.

00:15:36:19 - 00:15:57:00
Sara
We did a wish with Pandora last year, and, they kindly gave the wish, kid, a bracelet and one for her mom, and they engraved them, with each other's initials, you know what I mean? And those are things that they could wear and always think about each other when they weren't together. And the. So, yeah, the wishes are an amazing experience.

00:15:57:00 - 00:16:05:20
Sara
And if anyone wants to work on one, they should just reach out because we fund at this point about 20 a year, and we're always looking for people who want to be a part of that.

00:16:05:22 - 00:16:10:00
Mark
And it's jewelers for children.org. Right?

00:16:10:02 - 00:16:36:06
Sara
Yeah. Jewelers for children. Korg. My emails there. You can email me any time. And then there's guides. We have something called JFC gems, which is sort of our employee giving, program. There's a lot of guides there for that. So that people you can work through your HR department so that your employees can give monthly through their paycheck there and have to think about it, then give $5 to JFC right off the top.

00:16:36:07 - 00:16:58:01
Sara
And then we're working on a new page for our round up program, which is very exciting. So those canisters you mentioned, Mark, like, this was a while ago. We still have them. If you have a canister. You're one of my favorite people, but, Yeah, keep it. But what happens is people would put their change into the canisters when they were in the jewelry store.

00:16:58:03 - 00:17:01:10
Sara
I don't know about you, but I haven't had change in five years.

00:17:01:12 - 00:17:05:12
Mark
Like any of my pocket the other day. That's all that?

00:17:05:14 - 00:17:25:12
Sara
Yeah. Why? So we have been very lucky to have an alternative to the canisters and it's round up. So, you know, when you go to, like, the Walgreens and they say, do you want to round up for. It's always, like, very vague. But we are able to say, do you want to round up for jewelers for children?

00:17:25:12 - 00:17:53:08
Sara
These are the nine non-profits they're supporting. Right. And so we have some stores participating who are doing really excellent work. Rogers and Hollands is, one of our biggest supporters of Round Up, but also Reed's. Daniels is joining us and, it's just, it's one of those programs where even even if you're sending us 20 bucks a month, it all adds up and it's really important.

00:17:53:08 - 00:17:54:08
Sara
Yeah, yeah.

00:17:54:10 - 00:17:58:10
Mark
Is that something you guys can help with? Like if somebody was interested in doing the round up thing.

00:17:58:12 - 00:18:14:04
Sara
100%. So we work with some of the point of sale systems. So if you know which point of sale system you have, we can be helpful there. And then if you need some code written, we can talk to one of the other retailers and get code from them. Yeah. And see how they've done it.

00:18:14:06 - 00:18:26:04
Mark
That's fantastic. What kind of, looking ahead, what's next for jewelers for children? I know you got the new website. You're looking. What are you guys looking to do?

00:18:26:06 - 00:18:29:19
Sara
Mark? I just it's so many things I'm sure I know. Right.

00:18:29:21 - 00:18:32:01
Mark
But Mark and I do.

00:18:32:03 - 00:19:05:01
Sara
So, the reality of JFC is that we've been thinking a lot about, how to modernize. So when I started a few years ago, what we said was we were like at a baseline 2010. Right. But we really wanted to be in 2022 for the, and I think we've gotten to like 2022, we're getting there. So we did this large scale rebrand, which also gave us an opportunity to look at, the way that we were interacting with the jewelry industry, which has been great.

00:19:05:03 - 00:19:28:17
Sara
I think we want to continue to deepen our relationships with the nonprofit partners as part of this sort of expansion. So we don't want to just write them a check and hear from them a year later. Right. We want to be actively participating in the communities. We want jewelers volunteering. We really want to understand ways that we can, give back thunder more than just money.

00:19:28:19 - 00:19:50:06
Sara
So, for example, one of our new partners, the Ticket to Dream Foundation, they work with the kids in foster care who need things. They give graduation gifts to the kids, because if you think about it, who gave you graduation gifts? Right? It was your parents or your parents, friends or grandparents. So a lot of these kids in foster care, they're not getting gifts when they graduate.

00:19:50:08 - 00:20:10:17
Sara
And it's one of those experiences that just makes you feel like really special and is celebrates a milestone. It's important. So, we're going to work with them on, seeing if we can get some jewelry, donated some watches, you know what I mean? The kind of things that you would get for graduation, right? Yeah. So how can we be working with these nonprofits on a deeper level?

00:20:10:19 - 00:20:39:20
Sara
To ensure that, you know, we're really supporting kids holistically, which is something we think about. The other exciting thing that's happening is we do our faceted event every May, and, well, at Drake, whenever Duke happens this year it was June. But we do it at UK whenever they tell us to be there. And I think that this year we had a really exciting energy in the room, and a lot of that was due to our rising leaders Council.

00:20:39:22 - 00:21:08:14
Sara
So our Rising Leaders Council, we say it's for the new generation of jewelers, but it can really be, you know, whoever feels like they're coming up in the jewelry jewelry industry, they're looking for a community, and they want to be with like minded people. So we do trainings on what it's like to be on a nonprofit board. We meet up at jewelry shows, but it's a group of people who want to support JFC and want to do something philanthropic, and want to do it through the industry.

00:21:08:16 - 00:21:25:18
Sara
And are they on the younger side? Yes, but they are. I like to describe them as just the people with the most energy in the room. So, that's, an exciting thing that I'm, I'm looking forward to nurturing. And Alexis Pettis from Palace Jewelers runs that and has done just a fall job.

00:21:25:20 - 00:21:27:23
Mark
And what's the name of this group against rising.

00:21:28:01 - 00:21:29:20
Sara
The rising Leaders Council.

00:21:30:00 - 00:21:31:12
Mark
Writing let's.

00:21:31:12 - 00:21:34:23
Sara
Just so we call the RLC.

00:21:35:04 - 00:21:41:14
Mark
Summit the RLC, RF Rising Leaders Council. I'd love to be able to cancel. That would be awesome.

00:21:41:16 - 00:22:04:22
Sara
Come, come join us. I guess the only other thing is we have, an online event we're doing in August, where we're going to try and fund as many backpacks as we can for kids in need. So it's $20 a backpack. It's really easy. It's our backpack drive. And we're just going to see as community how many backpacks we can put together.

00:22:04:22 - 00:22:06:00
Mark
And do you think you might do that's.

00:22:06:00 - 00:22:09:00
Sara
Kind of exciting. So you can go to our.

00:22:09:02 - 00:22:10:19
Mark
Website, go to your website.

00:22:10:19 - 00:22:28:02
Sara
And go to our website. It'll be right there. I think it'll say backpack, drive and big print if I can get message from and it's just another way that we're hoping to connect with the community. And, really drive some resources to our nonprofit partners.

00:22:28:04 - 00:22:43:00
Mark
So one of the things I really liked about the website and just kind of doing a little background check, not check, but background information, we're seeing all the numbers, how much money you guys have raised and how many children you've helped. So what's the current totals on that?

00:22:43:00 - 00:23:09:04
Sara
Yeah. So we've given away over $65 million. Or I know it's amazing. And, and so much of it really, you can sort of like, you can think about it in terms of kids. So, $7 treats one, pregnant woman with Elizabeth Glaser, was one of our new partners. No kid hungry. $1 is a meal for ten kids, right?

00:23:09:04 - 00:23:14:00
Sara
So if you think about what $65 million has done, it's pretty incredible.

00:23:14:02 - 00:23:16:20
Mark
Yeah. And you can keep going and doing more.

00:23:16:22 - 00:23:18:13
Sara
So what else do I. Yeah.

00:23:18:15 - 00:23:22:05
Mark
How many, how many kids, how many kids you think you've touched and helped.

00:23:22:06 - 00:23:47:00
Sara
It's I mean it's millions of kids which is which is exciting right. I always think about our impact, lesson number of kids and more in this idea that we've changed the lives of so many families, too. Right? So, one of our new partner partners is the Boys and Girls Clubs of America. And what's important about their mission is that.

00:23:47:04 - 00:24:05:07
Sara
And anybody who is kids knows this, right? Like, it's it's something I think parents talk about. It's a part of the conversation is that you need somewhere safe for your kids to go right. And sometimes it's at campus too expensive. Sometimes it's a that they don't want to be there. Sometimes you just need somewhere for them to be at after school.

00:24:05:09 - 00:24:28:15
Sara
But to have somewhere like the Boys and Girls Clubs where the kids are also getting, this sort of like incredible support system, right? Has really the IT revolutions revolutionizes their lives, but it also creates a support system for that family. Family. And so I like to think that we've helped over 65 million families. If I'm doing the math.

00:24:28:17 - 00:24:48:13
Mark
If I'm doing the math, and, you were talking in your podcast with Michelle and Carter podcast, about how is it still possible that people, when they donate, they can say, like, I really love Make-A-Wish or, I really like a lot of this money to go to their can they, kind of make it to order kind of deal or.

00:24:48:15 - 00:25:08:06
Sara
Yeah. So if it's one of the partners that we're already working with, that's completely possible. So if you if there's one of the partners on the website, we do have a pretty intense vetting process for nonprofit partners in that, because we don't want to give money to people that aren't going to use it responsibly. Right. That's really important to us.

00:25:08:08 - 00:25:21:19
Sara
So we have a committee that chooses our grantees and they decide who gets what money. But if it's a partner we already have, we're always happy to take funding that you want to go to a particular place. Yeah.

00:25:21:21 - 00:25:37:13
Mark
Awesome. Awesome. That's pretty much all the questions I had for today. There again, floor is yours if you want to mention anything that we haven't talked about. I do want to reiterate your website, which is, jewelers for children.org. Right.

00:25:37:15 - 00:25:50:00
Sara
Yes. Perfect. And you can email me there. You can see our program. Yeah. You can, send me an email saying you want to join a committee. You want to volunteer whatever you need, you can find it there.

00:25:50:02 - 00:26:00:18
Mark
And I started following you on Instagram and, so I can get all the updates and see what kind of changes are events that you guys are having. So that's a good, good way to touch base with you guys too.

00:26:00:20 - 00:26:05:07
Sara
Totally. So we have links in we have Instagram. We have Facebook.

00:26:05:12 - 00:26:28:01
Mark
Yeah. Okay. I gotta look for you on Facebook Ben. Well thank you so much, Sarah. It's been really wonderful talking to you. And I really look forward to how Rio Grande and Jewelers for children can continue to partner and how we can continue can continue to contribute. As you I just told you, I speak 500 words a day and I can't pronounce any of them.

00:26:28:03 - 00:26:33:21
Mark
So anyway, thank you so much for dropping by and, we'll be in touch.

00:26:33:23 - 00:26:35:10
Sara
Thanks for having me.

00:26:35:12 - 00:26:52:18
Mark
So that's it for today's show, and a big thank you to Sarah Murphy for sharing her journey and the incredible work that jewelers for children is doing. And thank you to our sponsor, Eve polishers. I trust me, you guys, you can really love them. And don't forget to use the code E15 at checkout for 15% off now through July 31st and be sure to like and subscribe!

00:26:52:18 - 00:27:02:03
Mark
And that's how we can do the work that we do. Please reach out to us. Podcast. We are going Dicom with any questions for the show or new ideas for future episodes. Thank you and have a great day!