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Episode 128- The Winningest programs in the post covid era

January 26, 2024 36 Lacrosse Studios
Episode 128- The Winningest programs in the post covid era
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Down The Alley
Episode 128- The Winningest programs in the post covid era
Jan 26, 2024
36 Lacrosse Studios

Grab your forks and your planners, because P Mac and Katie are serving up a feast of conversation that's sure to satisfy your hunger for both scrumptious stories and organizational zen. While we're missing our barbecue maestro Ted, his spirit lives on in the tales of his legendary breakfast hash, making your mouth water and your kitchen skills feel utterly inadequate. Katie's back in the saddle, and we're laughing our way through the quirks of our dining habits, whether tackling a pile of takeout containers or mastering the art of the perfect game-day spread. Football playoffs are here, and we're all about those halftime hunger heroes that keep us cheering on our favorite teams.

DOWN THE ALLEY is a weekly podcast focused on Minnesota Lacrosse that is aimed to provide coverage of the MSHSL High School season and exposure for MN’s top lacrosse athletes. You can support our team by subscribing to our channel and following us on social media!

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Grab your forks and your planners, because P Mac and Katie are serving up a feast of conversation that's sure to satisfy your hunger for both scrumptious stories and organizational zen. While we're missing our barbecue maestro Ted, his spirit lives on in the tales of his legendary breakfast hash, making your mouth water and your kitchen skills feel utterly inadequate. Katie's back in the saddle, and we're laughing our way through the quirks of our dining habits, whether tackling a pile of takeout containers or mastering the art of the perfect game-day spread. Football playoffs are here, and we're all about those halftime hunger heroes that keep us cheering on our favorite teams.

DOWN THE ALLEY is a weekly podcast focused on Minnesota Lacrosse that is aimed to provide coverage of the MSHSL High School season and exposure for MN’s top lacrosse athletes. You can support our team by subscribing to our channel and following us on social media!

DTA Coaches Summit; https://www.downthealleypod.com/summit  

For opportunities to get on the field with us: www.36Lacrosse.com

36 Lacrosse Store: https://team36.secondslide.io/

For the coaching software check out; www.LacrosseLab.com/DOWNTHEALLEY and use the coupon Code "DOWNTHEALLEY"
That will save the coupon in their browser cache until the proceed to the buy screen. The coupon is for 10% off your first 3 months of use.

For all the Down The Alley content go to our website; DownTheAlleyPod.com

www.oldsouthernbbq.com; ODTA15 - gets the guest 15% off anything on the site

For Team and Corporate Apparel: https://www.36threads.com

Team36: https://36lacrosse.com/teams/

Lacrosse Training: https://36lacrosse.com/sdp/

Support the Show.

Speaker 1:

And welcome to down the alley. This is P Mac and Katie. Little bit of a lighter crowd. No Ted tonight. Think I think he's down for the count this week. I haven't. I haven't seen him since Monday, but you know we're gonna keep chugging along here. Katie and I have plenty to talk about. I feel like we haven't heard enough from Katie Lately anyways, so it'll be good to catch up.

Speaker 2:

I don't think in 2024 yet.

Speaker 1:

You haven't been on in 2024.

Speaker 2:

I don't think so. Or even in December of 23. It's been a while. Well, we're gonna okay, though.

Speaker 1:

We're gonna definitely get to check in with you and see what Katie is up to. You know, kind of into this new year, 2024. But before we dive into that, our sponsor, old Southern barbecue, they're keeping us full. They're keeping us full in 2024. I'm really hoping, ted you know he was telling us about those leftovers. She was posting them on Instagram last episode and last week. I'm hoping he publishes his recipe. We've gotten some. We've gotten some DMs, people asking for you know what Ted was doing. So, oh, he, he made a breakfast hash, oh, with some of the old Southern barbecue Leftovers and brisket. Actually, I was over at his house. What day was that? Was that Sunday?

Speaker 1:

Yeah and Guess what he had. Guess what he picked up before I came over old Southern barbecue for dinner. It can't make it up he did.

Speaker 2:

There he had leftovers to make something with, because when we all went there were no leftovers.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, yeah, I don't think the I don't think he got extra when we, when you and I come over? Yeah, there's no. Lot of leftover, but yeah, I went over to Ted's and we were watching some football and and no joke, can't make it up yeah, he picked up some old Southern barbecue to watch some football and they do that a lot.

Speaker 2:

I mean, they used to do that with a different place.

Speaker 1:

But now it's he's, I think he, I hope he has a punch card for us to do like you hate to go.

Speaker 2:

So I don't think you would ever do that, but I you hate taking things to go. Oh yeah, I would never go pick up food and bring.

Speaker 1:

I don't like to do the takeout, I like to sit yeah that's like my love language. Takeout or let me do that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you don't you getting me, so you never bring home food, oh.

Speaker 1:

I bring you to restaurants still.

Speaker 2:

I know I don't want to go anywhere, I just want you to bring me. But like he they, he does that a lot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, they do a lot of takeout, I think, and and lately it's been a lot, of, a lot of old Southern barbecue. And coach Sean I know he just visited old Southern barbecue for the first time. He brought his fam and good reviews. So yeah, I think old Southern it's not even barbecue. Best business decision was was.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, not sponsoring this podcast because people are just lining up better, but Sean is good for a for a taste test of the restaurants we recommend.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, he's good. He's good, um, but going into playoff you know playoff season for football I know a lot of people are gonna be getting takeout Exactly what Katie would love. I got a message from the big man, old Southern barbecue. They got smokehouse packs Great for any group size as you're watching your favorite teams this weekend and over the next couple few weekends here. We got the big game coming up. We've got playoffs. We've got you know all you know big games. Big football games Looks like the pit masters feast can feed about six. The party pack can feed about four, depending on how hungry you are. So Check that out. I, you know that's kind of what they're they're recommending.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I love barbecue for those types of things because it, like you don't have to worry about it spoiling and it reheats great. So like if you eat for you game and you need a snack at halftime, it's the perfect thing. It doesn't get all like weird. Barbecue is just really good for that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe you're having a pork sandwich pregame or you know, during the first quarter and then halftime you just throw that pork on some nachos and I say nachos too. Yeah, we're in the same. We are on the same wavelength right now. Um, we are not on the same wavelength of our, of our swag tonight. Yeah you're not wearing your new swag.

Speaker 2:

You didn't give it to me yet.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, it's always my fault. I give you the hat. I know I gave you that you did give me a hat.

Speaker 2:

Yeah these are limited edition car heart, 36 ones that.

Speaker 1:

Are very.

Speaker 2:

it's a great time I my warmest sweatshirt and today, when the recording, it's not very cold out, but it allowed me to go outside without a jacket on bear.

Speaker 1:

For those who aren't watching or can only see half the sweatshirt, we kind of leaked it on a couple of socials. Down the alley coaches summit. You got to be in person, but we're gonna have a few extras. All the all the speakers this is one of the hat options and then we're gonna be slinging some sweatshirts. Um, all the speakers are gonna get something because they're giving away their time, their knowledge, their expertise To the people. We're gonna be learning from them. We're gonna be taking notes from them. I'm super excited about it. February 17th For, like high school, yeah, grab your spot now down the alley pod. Calm, it's gonna be. It's gonna be here before you know. It's what? Three weeks away.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, looking at like we're done a little bit of a rabbit hole. Yesterday I had this idea. I don't know if I'm gonna execute at the idea, but if you're coming there's, it's just gonna be a fun day. He's got an idea. There might be some surprises along the way.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying and it's gonna be, it's gonna be worth your time, not to just like Hang out, but if I execute what I'm thinking I'm gonna do, you're gonna be happy. You're gonna be walking away happy. I'm just gonna say that I don't even know what she's talking about.

Speaker 1:

So this is this could be breaking. I know it's not on the Excel spreadsheet.

Speaker 2:

I haven't told anyone even. I just kind of had this idea and ran with it. But you gotta, you gotta go. The speakers are amazing and we can't thank them enough. I'm excited to just like get their knowledge myself. But yeah, it's gonna be a good day and, like I said, you might you might be walking away a happy camper. You will be walking away happy camper because not only will you just be like so rejuvenated from and getting it a lack spirit, there might be some extra goodies that you're going home with interesting, interesting and there's.

Speaker 1:

I ordered a couple extra. There's not gonna be a lot, but you could potentially try to get your hands on one of these. We're gonna be selling the extras.

Speaker 3:

There's a, there's no, it's all limited quantities limited, limited.

Speaker 1:

Somebody in the discord said oh so many. There's no link. There's no. This is limited edition. There's no links. There's no. This is, this is special order. There's gonna be a couple left. Discord is still around. Discord is never been more alive. Never been more alive. The discord is alive and well. Alive and well. No, it shouldn't be old southern barbecue. Thanks for being our sponsor down the alley coaches.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what we told, but the big man, old southern barbecue, told me Something I'm really excited about, that we're not gonna announce today, but maybe next week for Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1:

Not today. Not today, that's not on today the spreadsheet. We're not talking about Valentine's Day. We're not talking about it. Okay, well, you are, you Like that?

Speaker 2:

little running emoji is gonna be me.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, um, that is enough on that. Katie, what have you been up to in 2024? What are things? What's going on with you? What do you want to? What do you want the people gonna? People hear from me every week, people here from Ted. Most weeks we get the visitors on. You know I we just want to check in with with Katie. You know you're the, you know on the girls side of things, what, what's what's up with what's up with Katie?

Speaker 2:

Hey, where do I even begin? Where did I leave off? Is the question Um? Somewhere in like around Thanksgiving, probably.

Speaker 1:

Sure.

Speaker 2:

Um, it was great. We had a great holiday. That feels like forever ago now. Um, girls STP training is going awesome. Um, we've got quite the lineup. Some 2024s have been frequenting Training, which is really exciting because that senior year Like you're not necessarily on team 36 anymore you finished your last summer with the travel, so it's super fun to to have them back up and training. Um, lately I've been scheduling all of our travel for team 36 and making sure we are registered for tournaments and getting our hotels and hotel blocks and Trying to just keep the the gears going behind the scenes at team 36 and and beyond.

Speaker 1:

Thank God you're doing it, because that type of stuff I like to be on the field, I like to get the boys buzzing. I like to be on the sidelines. I don't like to be doing. Yeah, tell, booking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's, it's, it's fine, it's good. Um, I got some desk accessories so I was really excited about that. Did I mention my two? I don't think I've mentioned on the podcast my two planner. I'm a two planner person now. I Don't think I've talked about that on the podcast, have I?

Speaker 1:

I don't believe you've mentioned it on the podcast.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't have because it's been a 2024 thing I have always. This is this will be my rant, but it's a good rant. I've always been a paper planner person. I've always had one. I've loved always getting notebooks, notepads, pens, school supplies and Even with like the new age of an iPhone, I love. I used to use outlook, which I really did love, but now I have Mac and I don't use outlook on my Mac. I I literally use the mail icon. I think I'm the only person who uses that. We got Gmail, we've got our I cal. I love it.

Speaker 2:

I still, among all of that, have used a paper planner and I love it. And I found a YouTube Community and like Facebook groups this is like kind of making me seem like an old grandma now of people who like Do their paper planners on YouTube so you could put anything on YouTube. But I have gone down the rabbit hole of people videoing themselves Filling in their plan and it is giving me life. I first found this Really cool company no free ads called Laurel Denise and I have it right here, so if you're watching, I'll show you. I don't know how I came across it on on Instagram, but it's like big. You're not looking. It's like big, so it's like the size of a paper piece of paper as opposed to like a Normal agenda. That's kind of like a different size. So I got it and I love it, but I didn't love it for like my personal stuff. So I use it only for work stuff and it's amazing.

Speaker 2:

Well then I decided I needed a different one for my personal one. So I got the og, aaron Conner, and one. If you know planners, you know that Aaron Conner is like the creme de la creme of a planner, and so now there's like people out there who post like their planner stack, and there's these women mostly women out there and like there's this whole other Genre of like putting stickers and like Journaling and it's called scripting. Where you like, sit down and you're not just writing like your appointments, you're writing like your intentions behind them, and I love all that kind of woo-woo stuff. And so I am now a two-person planner thing and I have a nice journal that you got me actually with my initials and bossed on it.

Speaker 1:

Not a big deal.

Speaker 2:

I'm on my way to being able to like Be a member of this community. I post in the Facebook groups. I mean this is like Color they have a discord though post it. I mean I should look. I Think it needs to be more of a visual thing. Can you post pictures in the discord?

Speaker 1:

That's a great, but don't give our don't give our discord people any ideas.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I won't, but, like I Showed you that cleaning chart I made the other day and so now I'm a two-person, a two-paper planner person, and it is making my life complete. So I highly recommend, if you Use a paper agenda, to get a second one for for something. If you work, great. If you don't work, I Don't know, maybe that might be excessive because I like having work be one. All of our 36 stuff is in my big one and then all of our like personal stuff and I thought not to one-up you.

Speaker 1:

not to one-up you because I'm not going to be the one one-up in you, but, coach cap, mrs Cap, I again random, random, like her Instagram story I saw three planners I thought three planners is.

Speaker 2:

I was sure they're all planners and not like a journal. I should ask her.

Speaker 1:

I guess I don't. I didn't ask, I didn't ask, I you know I didn't follow up, but I saw. I said she might be.

Speaker 2:

That makes sense, because there are other three planner people, people gosh. Yeah, I mean stacks and then they've got like their journey, got like leather bound things that hold all of their planners in it and they like spots in their house Like family because then you have to have your family planner or like the kids can look. It's like essentially an old-school Alexa and it's everything and it gives me a lot of life. So that's what I've been doing Is this going to?

Speaker 1:

Is this gonna lead to more wins for the Lakers in the spring? I Hope so it's gonna connect all this back to La Crosse because at the end, of the day I Nice coach oh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I mean I feel like I already was an organized coach. This is gonna for sure, I mean shoot, I could get another planner just for the season. Like my coaching planner where I have like ideas written down and like practice plans. This could be an idea I could. I could make one and Show it to people sell it.

Speaker 1:

You could sell it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that world, I'm not not Multi planner people. Facebook.

Speaker 2:

I'm really bad at using the computer to put my ideas On the computer and then like print it like I know what I want, but I would have to like hand draw it then, which I could, I could do Now. My wheels are turning now. Maybe. Maybe they'll walk away with one of those at the summit. That's a lot of time to come up with.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't know, that's what I've been doing.

Speaker 2:

I've been filling up my planner Laurel, denise. They've got a YouTube, erin Condren no free ads. I'd be happy to talk paper planning because, like it really does just give me life. I Could sleep with it and sticker. And then there's stickers and then there's like Paper clips and it just in the Rams. That's really fun. There's this little stuff like Things you make charts with, and it's really good.

Speaker 1:

Well, on to lacrosse. We started making that connection if you, you know, hopefully, you know, hopefully this all equates to to more wins and we're gonna be talking about winning lacrosse programs. You know, coming up here one of the favorite, you know, as people, as we get to feb, I think people in the down the alley community, they, they look forward to feb because we start doing the section by section breakdowns. The comments start getting a little spicier. We get more text messages on Friday afternoons after people start listening in the morning. You know the Twitter starts, you know it starts, starts ramping up on on the debate, son on, you know this is, you know this is our section or this is our set, you know. So we're, we're, we're, we're adding a segment, we're adding this one segment before we get to feb where we do the section breakdowns and that's we're gonna. We're gonna look back, we're gonna look backwards quick, you know, for a quick moment, before we look forward Into the upcoming season, and we're gonna be looking at the winningest lacrosse programs. Over the last three years, the post Covid era, we've had some, some great eras of Minnesota lacrosse and, and currently we're in the post covid area era. I feel like every you know, once covid hit, everything kind of reset, something stayed the same. A lot of things changed, you know, with, with, with programs and whatnot. So I'm excited about this.

Speaker 1:

I did not I cannot take credit For these statistics and I also did not fact check these statistics. So, like everything we say on down the alley, take it with a grain of salt Back, check it. I got this from, I believe. Well, I I'm naming and they kind of named themselves, so I'm gonna confirm the name. I think they kind of gave them their name, this themselves a little bit the lax nerd source. The lax nerd source that's. That's gonna be the name that I give them. We can think the lax nerd source for these statistics, the breakdown and everything that kind of goes along with this Topic and bit.

Speaker 1:

They did a lot of research, you know, into this. I at least did a peers like that. I. I couldn't do this, you know, quickly. So I appreciate the work that they did, the time and effort they put into this and I hope I hope we see the lax nerd source Instagram handle, twitter and discord. You know, join the lacrosse, the Minnesota DTA nation lacrosse community, and start contributing under the new handle, katie. I know I sent this over to you. Did you at least take a quick glance? Obviously, we're gonna do a deep dive into this. I think I'll even share my screen and we can and we can rip through this. But did you take a look at this at all over the last few minutes here and Any before we get into details, any quick reactions? You know, did you like this? Is this interesting? Is it did? What were your thoughts before we dive into it? I did look at it.

Speaker 2:

There's not a lot of surprise. It all shakes out. I think it all shakes out this. I will say, um is not my strength, nor is it Really. I'm a little bit more, which is funny because I'm super detail oriented, but I'm not a stat analytics person at all, like at all. Like you can literally Just type letters and numbers on this and I probably would see the same thing as this. So it's, it's not my strong suit.

Speaker 2:

Okay, like this could be, just like you could literally type fake things and I believe that probably so and a lot of disclosures. A lot of these aren't official stats.

Speaker 1:

These aren't right. This was just.

Speaker 2:

I mean like, but like I said, this is just like I'm kind of looking at a cross-eyed because it's just not my thing.

Speaker 1:

Um, I like colors and and like and I yeah, I didn't spice this up, I didn't add the colors. I know what it is like a spreadsheet to me is like snooze. Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 2:

I think it um if this, weren't post it notes on a calendar, that would help me out, but this all over it. This. I'm just like it's gonna, it's gonna. It's gonna be tough for me to To have a lot to say about it, but I'll try. But there's definitely some things. There's definitely some things that jump out at you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I'm interested to kind of go through this and dive into it and not to give it away. I'm excited, I, I, I a different way to look at it, right, or to kind of combine it. That's my teaser for the last kind of section of this. It's interesting. Again, another way to look at the stats, if you want to call it that, another way to look at it.

Speaker 2:

You wanted what I will say, though. We have multiple times We've gone back you and I, specifically and like, looked at like state state appearances or like you and I have done like the like who was there? Or like what year was that, who did they play? Was that 2018 or like. We have gone back and tried to pull it up and we've talked about on the podcast for the lack of like a place where all the stats for lacrosse are housed. Obviously, it sparked a big debate in terms of player stats, but just stats alone of like who went to state, who won state.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it is not housed. It is not how clean one is lacking.

Speaker 2:

And then don't even get me started on like the just as we've tried to uncover, like who was breaking records, who's breaking school records, who's breaking state records? Like it's too bad that they're not more detailed, that they're not out there more, because I feel like there's some, some recognition that's getting lost in translation because we don't we don't know what the record is. So I will say this is super cool now to kind of have like a concise place and if this person like clearly likes doing this kind of stuff, keep it going. You know what I mean. Like, and at least there's some sort of unofficial piece of paper that, like you can look at, and it's not all the teams in the state, it's just the winningest. But it's like hey, there's a Google doc we can all just tap into and be like oh yeah, and 20, because you know what I mean. Now, 2020 is going to be so far. Well, 2020 won't matter, but 2019 is five years ago, right, four years ago, five years ago, oh, and does Golds love stats?

Speaker 1:

We're going to find out, we're going to, we're going to add a third voice into this. I, I, I, I saw stout, a, a invite to you know, just have a, just have a third set of eyes and and and voice. You know Golds, I think he's there, I think he's joined. You know a non opinionated person at all. So you know, hopefully, you know Golds is, is, is willing and able to add something to this conversation. Golds, welcome to Down the alley.

Speaker 3:

Hey, welcome here. I'm joining from my phone right now, literally late in bed. Love that Texting me. So, um, yeah, I don't know what conversation I'm adding to right now, but no, that's great, I'm ready to rock and roll and yeah.

Speaker 1:

So the lax nerd source, uh, sent over some statistics. I did not, um, I did not double check these statistics. I didn't confirm them, um, but but, uh, they clearly put a lot of work into this. Um, it's going to be an interesting conversation. We'll see where it goes. We'll see where it takes us. If I share my screen goals, are you going to be able to see what I'm doing, or do I need to email this over to you?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean you could share your screen. I'd be able to see it there. But if you just want to send it over my way, I can open it up and let's see if that works too.

Speaker 1:

All right, cool, I well, I'm going to share my screen without further ado. Again, all disclosures. These aren't, um, these aren't official stat like. These aren't confirmed. You know stats. These aren't official in any way. Um, here is the document from you know prompt props to the lax nerd source. So we're talking about the winning this lacrosse programs in, uh, the the post COVID era. We're going to start on the girls. Girls first. Um, katie, let's start from the beginning, from the top here. Who do we got?

Speaker 2:

Obviously no surprise. Lakeville South 93% wins since since 2020. So the 2021 season? That actually seems low. I guess the four, I mean I know what percent, how to make a percentage, but I feel like it's lived literally lost like two games.

Speaker 1:

So, um, yeah right, lakeville South has been dominant, has been to state the last three years. Um, so, every year in the post COVID era, uh, they've been an absolute wagon. Uh, one of the deepest teams, if not the deepest team in the state on the girls side, in my opinion. Um, you know, even in the off season programs they're running two varsity teams, uh, essentially in the in the winter leagues. Um, you know they're, they're, they're a team that I don't see slowing down. They, they, they kept going. Um, you know they kept their dominance going through the coaching change. Um, you know, this is, this is a program of. You know that's, that's, that's proven. You know the excellence there. Um, how'd they do last year? Again, we were just talking about this. Oh, how did that team do last year? Obviously they're in the state tournament, was, was, were they upset in the semifinals?

Speaker 2:

last year, yeah, by Ben Nilled.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that sounds right Again off the top of our heads.

Speaker 2:

don't quote us on that, ben Nilled, and he dine up right. Or was it the quarterfinals?

Speaker 1:

I think it was the semis, I guess the semifinals, regardless. Lakeville South, the most winningest program in the post COVID area, post COVID era. Um, yeah, not really a surprise there. Um. On to the next one, prior Lake 45 and 5, 90% winning percentage. That's. These numbers are insane. Right Like this isn't normal Um state appearance 2021 champions, and that's been it. A team that's been winning this much Again. So subject with, with, with Katie on the on the phone here, but you know a team that wins this much. Two of their losses of the five um are, you know, in the in the, I guess second biggest you know game of the year. I guess you could say for a team. You know the section final um both by one goal. Am I off on there?

Speaker 2:

What were the scores in the section final last two years. Couple goals against Rose Mount, I think.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, then that was last year, no doubt.

Speaker 2:

Two years ago, Idyna was overtime.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Right, just got rushing again.

Speaker 2:

So two years ago against Rose Mount, it was a couple goals, I think. I tried to block it out of my mind.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, but if you look, at it.

Speaker 2:

Take a step back and 90% when winning percentage is is huge.

Speaker 1:

Well and yeah, right. And then you know a team that, um, you know, maybe teams are starting to forget right Cause they're not in the state tournament. You know, uh, you know the teams and and programs across the state who's. They're not saying who's prior, like, but like, oh, they haven't been in state in a couple of years, like you know?

Speaker 2:

So, honestly, when I look kind of, I know we're starting at the top, but that's kind of how I felt looking again towards like the bottom of the list yet Interesting.

Speaker 2:

They're like, for example, that's immediately what came to mind when I saw Ian Prairie Cause I'm like who are they Like? Okay, so they went in 2021. I don't even remember them being there. Obviously, you cannot argue against Keaton Prairie being dominant because of their history, but like yeah, okay, they have a winning, a winning record, and like same thing with like, I guess, then bounce back up to the top Maple Grove Like the top four winningest program and I'm like yeah but like they were there in state too, I guess.

Speaker 2:

I just said like yeah, I was two engrossed in ourselves in 2021 because like that's so interesting, because I love them. I love Maple Grove Um, they have a coaching shift this year and like I love an upcoming program, but at the same time, I'm like a top four winningest Maple Grove is the top four winningest team. Well that's surprising to me.

Speaker 1:

We're skipping over Edina here, so let's kind of go in order, since that's the direction we're going. Edina 43 and 6, 87% winning percentage you know again, a team winning that much, only one state appearance. When you're in a section right, when you're in the same section as prior lake, a Rose Mount, you know it's starting to add up. When you've got these teams, you know in the same area, you know going head to head, okay. Well, that's why prior lakes only been there once in the post COVID era. That's why Edina's only been there once in the post COVID era.

Speaker 2:

Seeing Edina's record, I'm like, oh yeah, for sure, for sure they should be there. But maybe it's just because it's top of mind, because they were good last year.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's not even to add yet.

Speaker 3:

Um, yeah, I was just about to talk about the whole like prior Lakey Dina thing right here. Um, don't want to start hopping into the boys too much, but I feel like over the past I don't know few years, it's been just like prior Lakey Dina in the section championship.

Speaker 2:

It really feels like that.

Speaker 3:

Like a lot of the time and it's always it's the girls game is always right before the guys game. It's an electric factory, it's an absolute electric factory every year for prior Lake, and so, yeah, that was something that I was just, uh, was observing there. Um, I don't know if I want to hop into Maple Grove quite yet.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, go into Maple Grove. You know, I think we got our point there. You know, section six, um, it's that, it's an absolute um, it's an absolute grind of a section. Um, you know, like gold said prior, lakey Dina, um, you know, on the girls side, rose Mount's been in the mix too, um, but that's section final. Last last couple, you know, two of the three years it's been prior, lakey Dina, on the both and the boys and girls side, not to not to sneak ahead to the boys, conversation on the Maple Grove, 40 and seven, um, 85 winning percentage. Uh, I kind of indicate his point. This one surprises me, um, just in in the terms, because they've only been to state once. But when you, when you kind of peel back the, the layers, okay, obviously they're a really good program of you know, big school district, huge program, and who's in their section? The Scarlett, the Scarlett Knights. So that's why they're not making it every year. Um, uh, extra amazing record. Uh, katie Colts.

Speaker 3:

Um, I kind of wanted to tailor off of what Katie said earlier. This is Maple Grove's a sleeper. And again, not to go back to the boys, but it's, it's almost the same, it's almost identical, since since I've been playing lacrosse, Maple Grove was always kind of like sneaky and it's like where did they come from? But they're always good, they're always competing, and it looks to be the same way in the girls that I mean they're very dominant. Um, and with Banel in your section Banel, good in the girls, good in the boys it's hard to make it out of there, but you're still a good team, have great winning record. Um, yeah, just it's almost. I don't know where Maple Grove gets their juice from. I really don't. I'm just not familiar with the Northern suburbs because they're so close to Canada. But, um, yeah, they're gonna get ripped for that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I. Whatever it is, what it is, it will grow to the night town.

Speaker 1:

So hold on hold on hold on Something I just noticed looking at the stats here state appearances Maple Grove made it in 2021, banel made it in 2021. I thought they were always in the same section as Banel. Did that change?

Speaker 2:

It must have changed, it must have Cause, like Rose not was in our section and then it wasn't, or vice versa.

Speaker 1:

So in 2021, the section final for them was against, they were in section eight, so they they played Elk River in 2021. Interesting, interesting, food for thought. Katie, back to you on Maple Grove.

Speaker 2:

That's all I got. I kind of already talked about them.

Speaker 1:

Okay, uh, on to the Scarlet Knights of Banel Uh 47 and 10. Uh, over an 80% winning percentage. They've been in the state tournament every year in the post COVID era. Uh, the only other team uh on this list to do it is Lakeville South. Um a team on the rise, the, the. The boys got dominant first. The girls uh closely. They're followed. We've had their staff on the podcast. After speaking to them, it's no surprise. Um, you know the with the success that they've had um. It's been a slow build. They've gotten better every single year Uh, and in 2023, they finally reached the mountaintop with a championship. Uh Banel with 47 and 10. And I would say that percentage is only going to go up uh, based on what we've seen over the last few years.

Speaker 2:

I think you wrapped up nicely Like. I mean I think that that that their stats speak to it of, like they have a great winning percentage and they grind in the post season and made it, made it stay and it paid off this year.

Speaker 1:

Chan has in 43 and 10.

Speaker 3:

Uh, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up, we guys we're not done talking about, but no, well then speak up to it.

Speaker 1:

Like usually, I gotta shut you up, dude, Like why you're, you're, you're sitting on your thumbs over there, let's go Um.

Speaker 3:

I mean. So I just there's no surprise here. I mean, everyone's got to say it. If you're walking the hallways with Gus bell, there's just no way you're not bound to do good. I know he's not playing for the girls team, but there's just no way you walk the halls. There's just an aura about this kid. So, um right.

Speaker 2:

You're saying that his presence has impacted the success of the girls team.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's an interesting point.

Speaker 2:

It's like bringing you know Tom Brady to Tampa you know the team's going to be better, the GM is going to be better, running back is going to be better.

Speaker 1:

So do you think Gus bell has had a similar impact on the girls program at Benilde, st Margaret's?

Speaker 2:

that Tom Brady had down in Tampa. I'm shutting this down. You can talk about Gus bell when we talk about the boys. You're taking away the credit of the girls doing well. It's, obviously it's hierarchy goals, so get with the program.

Speaker 3:

That is not how I meant to. I just wanted to pump Gus's tires.

Speaker 2:

but you can do that when we're down, but in their number one moment in the boys.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it was a joke, it was a bit we don't edit that out. We don't edit the podcast. On to Chanhassen. Another big program, big school district. You know checks all the boxes right of a team you'd expect to do well. Chanhassen 43 and 10, another team over that 80% winning percentage mark. I've been in the state tournament last two years, a team that's had a couple of studs you know up and down that line up.

Speaker 2:

I felt the opposite about them as I did about me, Bo Grove. They seem way more dominant than where they rank is on this list.

Speaker 1:

Interesting point. Interesting point.

Speaker 2:

That's just my point. I have nothing to back it up.

Speaker 1:

It's just how I feel.

Speaker 3:

I'm willing to bet that the 43 wins they had Chipotle as a pregame meal and 10 losses they had Kadova.

Speaker 2:

You're right, you're right.

Speaker 3:

I think I'm willing to put money on that.

Speaker 2:

I think you're right.

Speaker 1:

I would follow you on that. Bet, I would follow you on that.

Speaker 3:

What do they eat before those games?

Speaker 2:

I want to know those losses, you're right.

Speaker 1:

You're right, they eat over a team that you know, or, sorry, a school that just seems to just just be a sports school. I don't know that.

Speaker 1:

That's again that's the they, they, they breed winners, they're raising winners. They love winning championships. They haven't done it in girls across yet, but 40 and 10, they're winning games, they're winning games and they made it to state twice already in the post covid era and over the Huskies, I believe. They love winning lacrosse games, they love winning championships. I would say this is the first team where I'm like, oh, like, where'd you come from? But it makes sense as an athletic department. They love winning.

Speaker 2:

I think this is the team that's going to be on the rise.

Speaker 3:

I'm surprised they're this low on the list. I don't follow girls lacrosse probably as closely as you two do, definitely not as close as Katie does, but outside of Lakeville South and prior Lake and over, I feel like for me is the most heard about girls lacrosse team in the state. So I'm actually surprised they're down here, not surprised the state appearances. Considering how much I've heard about them, I am surprised that they haven't won it yet. Yeah, I kind of feel like.

Speaker 2:

What I've heard they were. Why do I feel like they?

Speaker 3:

were there last year.

Speaker 2:

I don't know you can look on the actual. I thought they were like consolation champs last year.

Speaker 1:

Look on my sub confirm the stats right we didn't confirm this.

Speaker 2:

We're trusting the lacs nerd source. On to the next one.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure gold is going to have a lot to say about this. The lacrosse community still water 42 and 12 again not a bad record by any means. 78% winning percentage has been in the state tournament the last two years in the post COVID era. A huge, a huge program, one of the biggest lacrosse programs, if not the biggest lacrosse program in the state. They dominate at youth, I don't think. I would just like to say I've been coaching 10 you for three years and we've lost to them in like three championship games.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if I've ever been in a championship game.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I've ever beat still water at the youth level either. Again, a program, a community that is massive seems to always be growing athletes everywhere. Again, I'm not chipping the record, I'm not chipping where they are on this list at all. You know, again, I would you know my youth level is the same as I do in my youth level. You know again, I would you know, my guts telling me though, oh, I would expect them up. You know, closer to Lakeville South, and you know I expect them to. You know, maybe have a championship, you know, under the belt, I don't know if they want a girls championship, if I'm completely wrong on that.

Speaker 2:

Don't think so.

Speaker 1:

I think they either got like they've been in the mix, right there in the mix on the boys and girls side.

Speaker 2:

And this year it was that Chan they might have either gotten consolation, they might have won the consolation. So no one one, that's for sure, but Love still water.

Speaker 1:

Where do you want to do? You want to start the concessions.

Speaker 3:

I mean like, do I do it now or do I wait for the boys, like I don't know, I'm sick of this place, I'm sick of still water. Sure, they got great. They've got a great lacrosse program. Have no idea how they do it. Katie, I don't know if it's the same on the girls side as this, and the boys Like are there, are there youth girls teams?

Speaker 2:

In saying they're in saying they had a team team that they had like a U 14 double 18 this year playing and like the U 18 this likes.

Speaker 3:

That's what I'm saying, like there's something in the water and for some reason, I don't know why, but it just goes as far as their youth program. And then it gets to high school and then it's like, oh, they're normal again, yeah, but yeah, the concessions they got to figure it out, they got it. I get the pretzel every year because the one time I first time I got it terrible and I just go back in hopes that it might be better. But really I'm just hoping that it's just as bad, just so I can say how bad it is. And it never fails to be as bad as I think it's going to be.

Speaker 2:

It's always water or something this year oh yeah, they ran out of water last year.

Speaker 3:

Like what the? How do you run out of water in the middle of what? Is it June?

Speaker 2:

and it's like 100 degrees.

Speaker 3:

The hottest weekend at state. Tournament weekend is always the hottest weekend in Minnesota and they run out of water Stale pretzels. They got the nasty nacho cheese in that crock pot. That hasn't left the concessions for five years.

Speaker 1:

Back to the south side, south suburban conference, section six. Another team on this list this is this is a lacrosse community the Rosemont, the Irish 34 and 13. Great record, over 70% winning been to state in 21 and 2022. Again, lacrosse community, really good program, always in the, always in the mix in the south suburban. They love going to state. They love you know cause and havoc and sections Rosemont, lacrosse community, irish.

Speaker 2:

I got nothing. I mean it just that's a great. I think that's like a really you want to look at the list and I guess probably a good spot for them. You know they they beat us fair and square in 2022. And it was fun to see them there. I guess I didn't realize they were there in 2021. Great, great head coach how long Kelsey been there?

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, a big fan of Kelsey a big fan of their coach, she's gonna be speaking at the summit. Not a big deal.

Speaker 2:

She's been on the pod. She's been on the pod and she'll be speaking at the summit.

Speaker 1:

so how long she been there, how long she been with the Rosemont program.

Speaker 2:

And I was hoping you'd remember quite a while.

Speaker 1:

I'm just trying to pump her tires a little bit more.

Speaker 2:

I know she totally told us we'll have to go back and listen to that episode though.

Speaker 1:

Gold's Rosemont. You've had some history with them.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, does Rosemont have like, from what I'm thinking, do they have like the grittiest parent fan base?

Speaker 1:

That I don't know, I can't confirm or deny, but I really like their stadium, like I like I don't know I like the we played their last spring.

Speaker 2:

This turf is so nice.

Speaker 1:

Their facilities have gotten legit over the last couple years.

Speaker 3:

I haven't been to that new stadium. Last time I was there it was grass, so I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they have turf and they have, like a turf practice field right behind it too.

Speaker 1:

Rosemont was my hat chucking game of the season. I chucked my hat against Rosemont. I was curious.

Speaker 3:

Dude, there's something about yeah, there's something about Rosemont. They love ruining like Fyre is here, I think prior Lake, they love ruining prior Lake, it's just like oh it's like, oh, our best game is going to be just ruining prior Lake season. That's what we're going to do.

Speaker 2:

For sure on the cross, isn't there rival Egan though?

Speaker 3:

They border Egan. Well, it would be like Egan Eastview, Apple Valley.

Speaker 2:

Like for like as a school, but like I feel like in the cross the rival is prior Lake or Rosemont.

Speaker 1:

Champlain Park 36 and 14. Another team winning a lot of games made it to state in 2023. One of the best social media's across boys and girls like best social media's in the state. Love what they're doing on the socials and it's I don't know if that's a drug correlation with what's going on the field. They're still winning games. They're not letting it be a distraction either. Champlain Park are they the Raiders?

Speaker 3:

Their logo looks like the Patriots there's something. It might be the raider. I don't know, but I don't. Is it the Patriots? Is it the Patriots?

Speaker 1:

Let me look it up. Let me look it up, I don't continue.

Speaker 3:

Patriots doesn't make sense, but I'm really not surprised you're, considering how good Canada is at La Crosse. They have to be pulling their way up there from some of that so.

Speaker 2:

Doesn't a student do their social media? Wasn't that the thing? Or was it like they hired it out? A parent like knew someone and they did it?

Speaker 3:

That would be the smart thing to do? The rebels.

Speaker 2:

But your right goals. It is like the Patriots logo. Yeah, good for them for making the list here.

Speaker 3:

Go Canada.

Speaker 1:

Elk River, Zimmerman, 35 and 14. State appearances in 22 and 2023. A program that's right there. They dominate their area. They've been making it to state. Obviously they're trying to take that next step. I think they have a growing youth program too. I'm starting to see them on the boys side of tournaments as well.

Speaker 2:

I hope so. We love Elk River Zimmerman. They couldn't finish it last year, but it's exciting that they went.

Speaker 3:

I've got nothing here as to. I couldn't even point out to where Elk River is on a map.

Speaker 2:

By Cabela's.

Speaker 3:

I've probably driven by that Cabela's, but I don't know where that is on the map.

Speaker 1:

Is that where the horse track?

Speaker 2:

is.

Speaker 1:

Running aces.

Speaker 2:

Other direction.

Speaker 1:

Running aces. Yeah, that's like in Forest Lake oh yeah, you're right. Minnetonka.

Speaker 2:

Up North.

Speaker 1:

Minnetonka Huge program, huge school district, dominant athletics across the board. They've been in the COVID, post-covid era. They have not made the state tournament, but they love winning games. Not an easy section, not an easy conference, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I would neverwhat is so funny?

Speaker 3:

It's, I don't know nothing.

Speaker 1:

We've had some history with Tonka.

Speaker 2:

We have. I'm not surprised where they are on this list.

Speaker 3:

Are they? I don't want to be this person. I feel like it's going to make people hate me more. Are they the only team on this list that hasn't made the state tournament?

Speaker 2:

Yes, they're one of the winningest teams.

Speaker 3:

That's all I have to say.

Speaker 2:

That happened out of the state tournament. You're right.

Speaker 1:

There's 13 teams on this list, number 13. Eden Prairie 30 and 18. Over a 60% winning percentage in the post-COVID era Made it to state in 2021. Again, another huge school district Athletic Department of Excellence, eden Prairie A long, long, long history of winning lacrosse games and championships. For that regard, eden Prairie 13th on this list for this era of time.

Speaker 2:

Coming in hot last, but they'll always be on the list to me, I think. I think they're always going to make the list. I don't think they're ever going to not be a winning team.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they're like the best in history, right.

Speaker 2:

Probably.

Speaker 3:

I think it's a good thing to argue that I want to say, like when I was in middle school or high school, it was Eden, prairie and Blake girls.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Everybody, and didn't both of them have a couple of girls on their team that were on Team Canada's national team?

Speaker 2:

Just one, but yeah, like just very dominant. So I think it's just, their winningness isn't going anywhere. Even if they're the 13th out of 13th, I think they're always kind of included. I don't think they're ever going to be a losing record.

Speaker 1:

I like it. I like. I don't think there's any major surprises on this list. These programs have been making a lot of noise. I don't expect like kind of what you said with Eden Prairie. I don't think any of these teams are going anywhere, like year after year. You know, for the foreseeable future these teams are going to be in the mix, winning lacrosse games, competing for championships.

Speaker 3:

Who's in Minnetonka's section for girls?

Speaker 2:

EB. Who else Isn't it? You have to look that up.

Speaker 1:

Chan, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. That's not what this wait for section talk, that's, that's my bad, my bad, I'm just stuck on this, I know Stick to the list.

Speaker 1:

We're working off the list. On to the boys. On to the boys the winningness boys, lacrosse programs and teams and the post covid era On the top of this list with only two losses in three years. The Scarlet Knights of Benelton, st Margaret's 54 and 2, a 96% winning percentage State appearances in 2021, 2 and 3 championships in 2021 and 2022. 54 and 2, the Benelton St Margaret's Red Knights no surprise here who's top in this list.

Speaker 3:

Yeah again. I think 21 was Gus Bell's freshman year, so again walking the halls or something about the kid.

Speaker 1:

You know he is the only common denominator. This program has gone through a coaching change and they've, and they've still, you know, been winning games making it to state all that good stuff. So you have an argument there, golds.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but in all seriousness, that program has just been a wagon for a while. I don't know what happened before Horn got there, because it's like before horn got there they were pretty legit. Then they kind of had like a gap I don't even know who was coaching there where they were kind of like and then horn kind of took over and then really revitalized it and yeah, they've been pretty dominant ever since.

Speaker 1:

Catherine, another team that I mean I was muted.

Speaker 2:

I got it, it was the.

Speaker 3:

Patriarch. It was the Patriarch.

Speaker 2:

We did it. It was, that was yeah, you're right. I mean, it's no surprise. I'm happy I got to see one of their losses.

Speaker 1:

On to a district we've heard about and a lot of the. There is going to be some good overlap here between the boys and the girls Chanhassen, 45 and 7, 86.5% winning percentage been to state in 2021 and 2022. A program that's been right there you know they don't have a C next to one of those numbers yet, but a team that's been right there. They've been in the hunt, they've had, they've had some of the best players from this state. I'll come from this program, you know, pre COVID, post COVID, all that good stuff. So a program that develops players and is winning a lot of lacrosse games.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this one I mean the fact that you mentioned that they don't have a C next to their state appearances as well as post COVID era is kind of sad Because I feel like that 2020 year was really their year. I mean, they've they've had a ton of talent come through that program. But team 36 bias here, that 2020 group that went through the program there was just a lot of guys. They were clicking together. Obviously you had a lot of talent, but they were deep too and there was it. It just felt like those were, those were the boys. That locker room seemed like it was probably a really good locker room. Everyone was on the same page, everyone knew their role. Who was the top guy? Who was the D midi? Who was the whatever? So, yeah, that one is kind of saddening. But again, no surprise, they've had a ton of talent running through that program. They're who's their head coach? I don't know. I know hug doll coaches with them. I don't know their head coach, but obviously he's been doing something good to keep that program spinning.

Speaker 1:

That staff has been in place for for years, for a long time.

Speaker 2:

He's John John Kerr.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and he's been there forever not forever, but like it's been at least 10 years, I feel like I think that because they used to be the Chaska and Chan used to be one program, I think that split Like my junior year, so like 10 or 11 years I think.

Speaker 2:

I think I could be wrong. He was there then, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. So number two, the next one, number three this is my first surprise and I'm going to say it's a surprise because they haven't been to state yet. But when you look at who is in her section and who doesn't lose a lot of across games, it makes sense quickly. Maple Grove 39 and eight over an 80% winning percentage. They haven't been to state because of the Scarlet Knights, but this team hates losing. They were there over last year and they didn't skip a beat. Coach Thicken, we had him on the pod, great interview Seems like they haven't skipped a beat 39 and eight. They don't lose many lacrosse games. Is this the year they get over the hump? I don't know. I just talked to one of their staff members. You know they think they got a squad this year. They're right there. They're right there year in and year out to get to the dance, the final dance. But they want to get to the dance. They want to get to, they want to see it at the table.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, maple Grove again. I think, just like the girls, they're sleepers. Everyone's kind of sleeping on them. They've never done any crazy damage with that state championship state run, but they're good. They're a very good program, very well coached program. Shout out, I'm going to call it the heart, I'm going to call them the heartbeat of the program. Kyle Ramsey, guys, been around for some time. He kind of floats around, does everything with that program. He's he stuck around with them the whole time. Been been very true and loyal to that program through the coaching change and all that. So, shout out, kyle Ramsey. I know that. Yeah, like you said, coach Ficken came in, took over that job and he, I mean he set the tone for what was to, for what was to come ahead and good on him and, yeah, looking forward to see what that program can bring in the future.

Speaker 2:

I think to like I'm surprised there are three, not surprised they're on this list, surprised they're as high as they are. But it's like the same story as the girls, like really, the boys and the girls program are so aligned on in Maple Grove of like, okay, yeah you, you come, you play, you win. You can't really squeak, squeak too many. State the girls one, obviously, one or two times, but you know, don't count them out. A segue into the next one, because I, I feel the opposite.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know, that's a yeah, katie like I don't even as well.

Speaker 2:

Just segue for us and the Chicago lakes 43 and nine. They were at state 21 and 23 and 20 21.

Speaker 1:

They almost upset, or upset the Lakers.

Speaker 2:

they had one of them don't even know where Chicago lakes is, who they are, what their mascot is, what colors they are.

Speaker 1:

Chicago lakes in 2021 had one of the most under the radar dominant players in the state tournament he. I don't remember his name, but their Fogo almost single-handedly beat the Lakers.

Speaker 3:

They had that really good Fogo and that really good lefty attack.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you're right.

Speaker 3:

You're right, no clue, no clue. I don't want to say it like it's hard to say, like this is fake. And I don't want to say it's fake because they did almost upset prior lake. But like, like, who, where is Chicago lakes? Who do they play?

Speaker 2:

Oh my well, you're gonna. You're gonna see the border on this one.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna get some haters after saying that one. Even the worst part about me saying that is the coolest thing about Chicago lakes is they like took a bus down to come and watch a week Kings game. So I'm a fan of Chicago lakes but it is odd how I don't know I don't want to say odd through that high up, but how do they get that high up? And they made it last year too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they've been in the mix and they dominate their area, so yeah, I have a different.

Speaker 2:

You can stop at running aces because it's on the way.

Speaker 1:

Sounds great. Love that place.

Speaker 2:

I bet this is actually like a really nice area because there's like would you know it? A lot of lakes and it's like kind of off 35. Huh, they have some really nice homes out there.

Speaker 1:

Back to the Southern suburbs, shakopee. The Sabres 42 and 9, over an 80% winning percentage. They made their first state tournament ever in 2023. A program under Coach Pollock. He's been building that brick by brick. That program gets better and better and better and better year after year 42 and 9,. If I had to guess without looking at this list, I wouldn't have guessed that good of a record over the last three years, better than I expected. But it makes sense. They've been getting better and better every year. They won the Solstice Suburban Conference last year. Yeah, made the state tournament in 2023. We're one goal away from the state championship game. The Sabres they're a way-goon.

Speaker 2:

I don't know where I was, but I was not at the State State boy State La Crosse tournament last year. I mean I was, but I don't remember them being at State either.

Speaker 3:

So good for me. Yeah, Shakopee, Coach Pollock's done a great job there with Shakopee. No, I don't see any surprises here. Don't they now have, like they have like a huge La Crosse facility, like only?

Speaker 1:

They have a lot of fields. I don't know the details, but yeah, they host a tournament. They've got games going on, we play them and while I'm season and whatnot, yeah, they've got some good facilities.

Speaker 3:

I kind of shot myself in the foot a few years ago. I remember I was just out doing some lessons and Pollock saw me and he asked me if I wanted to be his decoordinator and this was, I think, right when he took over Shakopee, and so he didn't really have anything in place and me, being a prior late kid, wasn't really sure where I wanted to go with coaching, was just like kind of like I don't really know this guy and just kind of was like, oh sure, let's think about it, and then that was that. But I've also heard too that Shakopee Like all their staff is leaving.

Speaker 1:

Well, I know, I guess I don't know all the details, I don't know everybody on their staff. I know for sure, though their decoordinator is up in Appleton, wisconsin coaching college now.

Speaker 2:

Ok, because, you're ticket in.

Speaker 3:

I can't do it now. I've said it, I'll say it publicly now where I'm at coaching, the only place I will leave for is for my all modern currently. So that's that. That's just where I'm at, and so if and when that ever happens I'm not saying it needs to happen now or what, but I'm sticking with Blake for a while, I think. So there's but, but yeah, so the Shakopee thing the coach is leaving. So glad to hear that that guy like took a better job, because I'm thinking as a high school coach, there's not too many better opportunities than coaching. Shakopee, right now?

Speaker 2:

Well, you could always move to Saga Lakes.

Speaker 3:

I could, I could. I'm not saying like me personally, I'm saying, with all these coaches leaving, shakopee is, from what I heard, like you better have something better than Shakopee to coach, because I don't see a whole lot of opportunities better than coaching there currently.

Speaker 2:

You're right.

Speaker 1:

On to the neighboring city, briar Lake. The Lakers 44 and 12 just under that 80% winning mark state appearances in 2021, 2022, 2023. One of the few teams on this list to do that. A team that, at any moment, you know, year in, year out, you know a lot of people are doubting going into the season. A team that has proven to be able to reload. Are they going to be able to do it again? No one knows the Lakers 44 and 12, they continue to find a way to do it. No championship, though.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no championship in the COVID era. But I mean, I think some people might look at this and say, oh, that's a lot of losses. But the reality is, you know it. I don't know if you're going to like be the one to say it, but I'll say it is that prior, like for the past few years, has always had a slow start. Everyone's counting them out. They have a. You guys wait forever to play your first game.

Speaker 1:

That's not by design. I'll leave it at that on the record. That's not by design.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how it happens. I don't know the details, but, like, whatever it is, that happens and you guys get a little bit of a rocky start and you guys just figure out the pieces and then by the end you're the well oiled machine just rolling in the playoffs. That might be why the that's exactly why the 12 losses are there. Maybe some people should start taking some notes, because reality is the regular season doesn't matter. Everyone makes the playoffs. So having all these wins in the regular season may not be what it's all cracked up to be, but obviously you want to win. But most important thing is to figure it out by playoffs.

Speaker 1:

Katie, you see plenty of the Lakers from the other side of things, on the girl's side, or from the stands watching the boys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, didn't I say something that's sure really mean about them?

Speaker 1:

I think we probably both did, but I I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember what I said. Yeah, I mean definitely like takes a while to figure out, but that's okay, that's all I'll say on it. I said something last year and they got mad at me.

Speaker 3:

I mean and I think a lot of it too we got it. We got to talk about the coaching changes a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, great, great point. Thank you for bringing it up.

Speaker 3:

That mentality. Anyone that knows Casey Mathewn is a. He's a very kind of go with the flow kind of guy. He's never going to try to rock the boat too hard either way, and that's a.

Speaker 3:

I think that's another reason for the losses early in the season. His Kim, it's not that he's content with losing, he's just composed with it, and so he he'll soak those losses in the beginning of the year in order to figure out where certain people need to go, who needs to play where, what rules we need to put in place. So he's very good at that, where he takes those losses as just like learning points and how to move forward. Obviously, kepner now stepping into that role, I imagine he's going to be fairly similar, considering he's been on the staff with Casey for a few years. You've been on the staff with him for a couple of years, so I don't know if you want to talk on that much at all, but he seems like a pretty even tempered person that I feel like is going to have a fairly similar approach mentally to those games. So I wouldn't be surprised if we don't want to not wishing losses on prior lake, but I wouldn't be surprised if we have a similar season.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, that actually wasn't the direction I thought you were going to go with that. I thought you were going to go with the next man up, kind of mentality of prior lake, you know, with Casey being on the staff and you know Kepner taking over. Again, we had Kepner on but again shout out to him taking the program over, kind of next next man up, if you will. Yeah, no, it's, you never know. Every season is different every season. Every season is different. You know, every year you've got a new team, different group, different pieces and different places. So, yeah, I'm excited for April, april 1st, and see how everything, everything shakes out. You go on with the plan and then your plan gets punched in the face. How are you going to react to it?

Speaker 1:

On to the next team though Moorhead, a team that's been to the state tournament every year in the post COVID era, a DTA favorite down the alley. Nation loves them. The Spuds an absolute wagon in their area. 39 and 11 just under that, you know 80% mark, just like the Lakers right there with them. You know they're, they're, they're waiting, or you know they're continuing to work to win that quarterfinal game. I expect them to be right back in the mix this year. Hopefully they get a little bit of a better draw at the state tournament. I'm rooting for. That Spuds one of my favorite teams to root for. That's not the Lakers.

Speaker 3:

Yeah they. The random draw thing. That's crazy. Three years random draw on the same spot None of my business, but I don't sip tea. So yeah, moorhead, I would say prior to last year I would have said this is all fake, this is all fake. But then last year they had some heavy duty wins on their record.

Speaker 1:

And they come down, they, they, they schedule, man, they schedule, they want to play, they want to play the big boys.

Speaker 3:

And what they they, they beat? Did they beat St Michael Albertville?

Speaker 1:

If I was a betting man without looking?

Speaker 3:

yes, I think they did. They beat Minnetonka, correct. That was a big. They beat Shakopee dude, they, they. Oh yeah, that's right. But in, I mean you can't, you can't make that excuse. But that was the travel game for Shakopee, correct, I'm sure?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

No no but, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

Moorhead travels. They've got Delta Skymile. You know they're bottom of numbers, man.

Speaker 3:

You can't make that excuse because they're driving to every single one of their games. So, yeah, moorhead, moorhead had. I'm pretty sure they beat Minnetonka. I'd have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure they beat Minnetonka, they beat Shakopee. Those are two heavy duty wins. So, like I said, like prior to last year, I would have looked at these numbers and been like, ah yeah, they just play up there. So like that makes sense. But they're not beating just the low end of the competition, they're showing up to places and they're beating the best of the best. So Katie.

Speaker 2:

I got nothing. I like them a lot and I agree with Golds the random drive for not about that, but I'm always rooting for them. I feel like I watched some of their game in state. I think I don't know where I was, but I was there because I remember watching them against somebody Banilled.

Speaker 1:

Probably yeah, they were there, they played.

Speaker 2:

Banilled, before one of the girls games probably and I was like really impressed. So I like, I like where they're at in this chart, in this list, and I think they're a team that can can keep going up or at least stay competitive right where they are. Maybe their percentage of wins don't go up, but I think we haven't seen the best of them yet.

Speaker 3:

I mean they also have to like, have like a little bit Canadian in them, right?

Speaker 2:

For sure, they for sure. I've never been to Moorhead.

Speaker 3:

That's where Sheldon went to high school.

Speaker 1:

Great. That explains so much. On to the next. On to the next school Stillwater. The Ponies 41 and 13,. 76% winning percentage, state appearances in 21 and 22. Were they not there last year? Montimita went there last year. That makes sense. The Ponies we are concerned about their concessions. I would say it's a similar story from when I said about the girls.

Speaker 2:

We're concerned about that shed too remember.

Speaker 1:

We talked, we got already got the load on on the shed. They got the breakdowns back there and stuff I don't know. But the Ponies, huge school, huge program. Everything I said about the girls applies to the boys. They're trying to get over the hump. They've had some famous moments.

Speaker 1:

Huge stick check moment. We're not going to get into that right now. They've had huge moments, They've been right there. They've been right there. Are they going to get over the hump in the post COVID era? I think so. You can't count them out. You can't count them out. They love winning games the Ponies. I have nothing more to add.

Speaker 3:

Pre-COVID, post-COVID. We need to find a new location for the state tournament. I know that has nothing to do with the record, but maybe it does. Maybe it does. Maybe they're spending too much time around their concessions.

Speaker 1:

Has a host team ever won the state tournament? I don't think, so I'm going to place a bet that they haven't.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, probably not, because it's been a chance.

Speaker 1:

It's a jinx. You're jinxing yourself.

Speaker 2:

There's only a couple hosts.

Speaker 1:

You're jinxing yourself. I wouldn't want a host.

Speaker 3:

Where have they hosted it? They've hosted it. Chan has them. Bill Water, they did a little bit.

Speaker 1:

They do Chan and Tonka they did it at White Bear last year. Yeah, white Bear last year, but that wasn't the, and then they did.

Speaker 2:

They had hot dogs. They had a great concession stand.

Speaker 3:

What was the one in the? Was it?

Speaker 2:

Roseville, it was Roseville area high school.

Speaker 3:

I don't understand these odd selections for the flip-flopping between the quarterfinals and the whatever. I don't understand that. Was it hosted at Minnetonka?

Speaker 1:

I think when Chan hosted it didn't they do, they did. They did the Chan Tonka Split Like. Those were the two fields going.

Speaker 2:

I have no memory of that, I do.

Speaker 1:

I have a great memory. On to the next school, centennial 37 and 12. This is a school that was, like Moorhead, not on the girls list, correct, and I am correct. Centennial really good boys program 75% winning percentage in the post-COVID era In 2022, they had a really good team and they made state in 2022. They were in the mix there for years as well. New coaching staff Coach Beach a fan of DTA Nation, we're a fan of Ham step down after that 2022 season Centennial. I would anticipate them to continue to be in the mix as they built a nice program and I think their girls are getting better too.

Speaker 2:

I feel the opposite. I feel like their time is done. I like them. I don't know why, though. I just feel like they're just kind of going to. They peaked, and that was it. I have no reasoning to believe that I just that's just how I feel.

Speaker 3:

I feel like Oscar the Grouch grew up in Centennial.

Speaker 2:

You think so, he probably did?

Speaker 3:

He probably did Tell me something. I also don't know where Centennial is on the map.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, because I think.

Speaker 1:

All right on to the next one, back to the Southern suburbs, because you guys don't know the Northern suburbs Like you do Like you do.

Speaker 3:

They've got Smokies man. It's up by.

Speaker 1:

Smokies. It's up by Smokies. Where's Smokies?

Speaker 3:

How do you get to Smokies? The East Bethel East Bethel.

Speaker 2:

Gold you need to get out of here he uses GPS to still get to his mom's house in Prior Lakes. So you know he has no idea where he's going, I use the. Gps. No, E-Mac does.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I was like okay, I'm a huge GPS guy, I don't want to run into traffic.

Speaker 1:

I hate traffic. Good thing I'm a big GPS. I own it, don't deny it. I don't deny it.

Speaker 2:

Like he knows where any of these places are, he just sticks them in the GPS.

Speaker 3:

Get.

Speaker 2:

Smokies.

Speaker 3:

Smokies E-Mac.

Speaker 1:

On to Lakeville North. Lakeville North 36 and 16. A 69 percent winning percentage. Nice State appearances in 2021 and 2023, winning the state championship in 2023. Not a big deal. They're going for their back-to-back in 2024. Lakeville North the Panthers. This is a program that's been in the mix for years, dating back to the pre-COVID days. Now we're post-COVID the Panthers. They aren't going anywhere, at least not in 2024. I can tell you that. What do we think about Lakeville North? If anything, I think they'd be higher on the list.

Speaker 2:

I think they're going to win again Last year.

Speaker 3:

I think that was probably one of the most skilled rosters they've ever had. In my experience with Lakeville North I'm not trying to say this in a disrespectful way, but they haven't always been the most skilled, but they've been super, super gritty, super tough. It's always a physical game when you're playing Lakeville North, so I'm not super surprised by some of the losses, just to the fact that if you have a very, very skilled team, I think they can win that. But last year, having skilled on top of grit, I think that was the lethal combination to take them all the way to the championship.

Speaker 1:

Oh, and with that they're in the South Suburban Conference. This record is in a tough conference too.

Speaker 3:

So I mean, I think it's a not fantastic record, I guess, for what you would say a championship caliber team. But they're gritty, they fight, they want to win and last year they found a way to do it. Yeah, I think that was kind of a bit of a surprise.

Speaker 3:

I think that win for them last year for some people but for some, for some that Clint Powers kid is just nasty Like not much you can do when you have a good face off guy. That's also really good at lacrosse it helps. Yeah, that's pretty hard to do anything.

Speaker 2:

You're coming back right.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

On to the next one Modemita 33 in 17,. 66% winning percentage. State tournament appearance, first one in the post-COVID era, 2023. Like Centennial, this is just a community that's been bought into boys lacrosse for years. I remember back when I was a player in high school and youth. Even Modemita has been in the mix. I don't know, it's a smaller community, smaller program, but they've been winning lacrosse games for years and I'm not surprised they made this list.

Speaker 2:

There to me like a beacon of boys lacrosse. I don't know why I always am thinking. When I think boys lacrosse, I'm always thinking Modemita is like in the top four games.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they've always made it. I don't know if I would put them as a top four?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, in the top 11.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't really have much to say on Modemita. They've what their coach I've heard his name, moose is their former coach. It's like everyone. If you mentioned Modemita, everyone's like, oh yeah, back when Moose coached. I don't really know much about the guy, but I guess he built the program up pretty good.

Speaker 1:

On to St Thomas Academy 31 and 16, a 66% winning percentage. Last state tournament appearance was in 2021. Being a private school, they've had talent. I think they run into maybe some depth issues. That has not slowed them down from winning games. You know a team that has run into some tough battles in section. They're in a tough section three. They've been in the mix. They've been in the mix every year and a year out Another. You know we've been talking about coaching changes. It seems like every other program they're another one that's gone through a transition with their staff over the last couple of years. I think that's stabilized now. They've had the same staff now, you know, going into year two or three. So again, they've been winning games. They're going to continue to win games. I believe. Are they going to get over the hump of a tough section in 2024? We shall see.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, st Thomas, they're pretty good. Had a nice experience of how good they were last year. They whooped up on us pretty bad. They've had. What was it, is it Hudson? There's one just graduated. Now they got a young one coming up. He was a freshman last year so I wouldn't be surprised They'll continue to be pretty good. Sprink Clark he's kind of an OG in Minnesota lacrosse. He's running their program and yeah, I'll probably we'll see what they can do this year.

Speaker 2:

This is the sleeper for me that I'm just like how did they make this list?

Speaker 3:

St Thomas.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know why. I mean, they always talk about them, but for some reason they just are like completely non-existent to me. Again, no other reason other than my own bias.

Speaker 1:

All right. The 13th team to sneak into this list, the Hornets of Edina. 30 and 16, 52% winning percentage. They have not made state yet in the post COVID era. A team you know talking about teams and tough sections, section six, they keep running into the Lakers, amongst other teams. There's been some epic battles between the Lakers and the Hornets, you know, even dating as near back as last season. The Hornets they win a lot of games. They're always in the mix in their section. They're always you know they've got some dominant players. You know when we go. You know the section breakdown. When we dive into the weeds of you know each team and whatnot. They're going to be right back. If not, you know, even more back. You know just kind of getting a year older with some of these guys. So the Hornets, I think I'm. If I was, if Edina was, a stock, I think I would buy it here Because at 13th on the list, I think they're only going to go up over the next couple of years.

Speaker 3:

I would agree on buying stock Any Dina right now. They had a very young team last year and those young kids were good. We're very good. So, like you said, I think their stock is only rising. I'm honestly surprised they're this low.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say the same thing. That's my biggest surprise. On the boys side, they are list.

Speaker 3:

but then again, I mean maybe they're, but you look at the, the number differential in, like lost games from prior, like down there's four, four games between how is that? One, two, three, four, seven teams. So it's like this list is really tight in this top 13 for the boys but yeah, dina, I just feel like that team considering how well they do in the playoffs. Granted, they have a tough go in the section championship game, but it's never like they never get blown out in that section championship game. It is always an electric game. Everyone's on their toes, everyone's voice is gone the next day from watching that game. So, to be honest, having that many losses on it's like who are they losing to?

Speaker 3:

because, they are competing with the best of the best in the.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so, like you said, like you said, being a young team. Last year, two years ago, they were even younger. So in 2021, they were. They were an old team epic overtime game against prior, like in the section final. 2022 is kind of when they took, took a little bit to the chin a little bit with a really, really young roster. 2023 they came back and I think they're going to be all the way back even more back in 2024. So I think a lot of these losses here, kind of looking at the laxhub, it all kind of came not all, but a lot of it came from from one season in 2022, kind of during a, you know, a rebuild year, if you want to call it that.

Speaker 2:

I could see them jumping a lot like if we do this next year. I could see them being like up like five or six spots.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely. I completely agree with that.

Speaker 1:

All right, interesting, interesting, love the points here. The last section, and I kind of like what our lax nerd source did here the winning, the winningest lacrosse programs, boys and girls combined in the last three years. So kind of looking right at the community, at the school, you know, combining everything, you know who's winning the most. And again, I don't know, I don't know if you did by percentage or whatever we can kind of look at all these different stats here. But I kind of liked I never really thought of it right usually look at the boys and usually look at the girls. You know as a community, as a school, who's the winningest and it kind of makes sense right before you know when you think about it.

Speaker 1:

But NILD, they've been winning a lot on the boys side, barely have lost, and the girls have been on the rise, starting to make state tournaments. Have have won a championship now, but don't say Margaret's 101 and 12 as a school, almost at that. 90% mark six state tournament appearances in the post COVID era. Haven't missed one and three championships. Not bad, not bad, the Scarlet Knights.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm just looking at this list. I know you just talked about BSM, but I'm really just looking at this list as a whole and it's very interesting because you see still water. Maple Grove, prior Lake Chan, edina all have like insane youth programs in terms of numbers and involvement, and then BSM, just out of nowhere.

Speaker 2:

So and then my question is like, if you put the lake bills together because their youth is together, that clearly you can't talk about a winning lacrosse program, boys or girls without mentioning, like those South girls or like the North boys, though you know. So it's like right, so it's like we should put them as a city If they'll get their own category.

Speaker 1:

I bet they wouldn't make the list though, because they've kind of had like one of you know what I mean like two of the girls alone make up all of those wins. I know, but I'm but I'm saying, like OK, let's say the one again, like OK, fine, I just can call them out. Girls North is probably losing all their games, and girls. South is winning, so that means they're 500. So they wouldn't make the list.

Speaker 3:

Well, right, I suppose that I think we can all just be thankful that Lakeville North and Lakeville South are two separate schools. Could you imagine?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Retweet galt's retweet.

Speaker 3:

That would be insane. That would be that would be nuts, but yeah. So I mean, where is what's the draw? Like, I'm not trying to like bash BSM, but what's the draw to BSM? Where are they getting all their kids? I know, I know, on the boys' side I'm not.

Speaker 1:

Well, this isn't a BSM. Didn't pay to sponsor this, this episode, you know. So we're not pumping BSM here. This is just. We're just looking at statistics, but you know it's. You bring up a good point, though. Right, it's the only private school.

Speaker 3:

They don't have. They don't have a youth program.

Speaker 1:

They don't have a youth program right, so they're, they're, they're, they're taking right from from other programs.

Speaker 3:

essentially, yeah, I mean like so they are. I think it's like you can look at it that way I'm not saying you are, but I think some people listening to this will look at it that way. That's like BSM is just poaching talent, but you can't just take that talent and like you can't just put any Joe Schmoe into that pro, like to coach that program and take those talented players and have that record Like what? What are they doing? Like? I don't know. I don't know the girl side of it, but obviously they're doing something good. Most of this comes off of the like the Horn dynasty, but that doesn't mean that like Palermo had a fantastic season last year stepping in, but most of these wins like, so it's like Horn. Like, how much are they doing like outside of? I don't know what I'm, what I'm really trying to say here. I'm struggling with some words, but I think I get you.

Speaker 1:

It's the structure, right, it's the structure, it's the programming, it's the off season, it's the weight training. You know what, what are? You know it's, and that all you can summarize that into culture. Right, but like the culture of the program. I don't really like saying that. But like, what's the structure of the program?

Speaker 1:

Clearly, bsm has a good structure, right it? In a good culture. Right, they? Clear, like these coaches and these players aren't showing up on April 1 without doing anything else and expecting to win. You know what I mean? Yeah, and you can say that about every program on this list Still water, right, they're obviously doing stuff in the off season.

Speaker 1:

They're obviously doing other sports, they're obviously practicing lacrosse and the off season and doing extra. And you can say about Maple Grove and I know that, about Prayer Lake and the kids in Prayer Lake and Chanhessen as well, and the Dyna as well, right, you can say that about every single program is BSM doing it 5 to 10% better than everybody else? Sure, yes, and that and right that's that's equated into more state tournament appearances and more championships. But you know, I think this is you're just pumping up BSM like, look at this whole list, like all of these goals, all of these programs are have the correct structure and if you're not on this list, I would be trying to take notes and and ask the questions. You're asking goals, what's the structure to the program and to you know, make them this successful?

Speaker 2:

I think two, and obviously we're talking about BSM because they top up. They top this list not to just pick them out because, like, people have their opinions or whatever, but it goes to show that the winning is programs have to have both decent and like will not decent, a top 10 ish. Winning is boys and girls program together Because, like, we had those couple anomalies in there and that they didn't transfer to this list and this is just a stat that the nerd pulled. But at the same time I think the way you're talking about structure Benilde has, you know they have an AD that supports them. They have parents who have bought in, they have parents who are volunteering their time to have board meetings. You know, in all of these programs I'm sure there's a group of parents that are involved and you know, working with the coach to do all of that extra stuff off of the field and the coaching staff and supporting the head coach with his or her needs. The athletic director is on their side. The kids obviously are bought in and the captain's help and and they're all you know doing their school where it's like it's everything and I'm glad the the target is off of prior leaks back a little bit, because that used to be a question. I've even gotten and I'm lowest on the totem pole at prior like of like what, what do you do? What is it what? How does parley get so good? And it's like it's not one thing. It starts with, you know, for us it is the youth.

Speaker 2:

But all of these kids that go to banel participated in their youth. They didn't, like you said, like gold. You're not just picking out Joe Schmoes that sign up to banel, that 738th grade, and are like, oh, you're gonna be a great lacrosse player, like they. They have already been invested in lacrosse and then happen to go there for their high school choice, which, again, that that's buying, that's. You know they they've, they've made that choice and they like it and they like the sport and the coaching staffs are taking also, you know brand new kids too. So it's like you kind of got to give them a little bit more credit, because they're not knowing these kids coming in, you never know who's gonna show up day one of ninth grade and they just kind of got to. You got to make a winning team that you don't just make a winning team out of nobody. There's a lot of extra stuff in the background. That goes on and sure, sure of it.

Speaker 1:

Golds.

Speaker 3:

I mean Katie kind of just. I mean she said a lot of good stuff right there about Because, like I wasn't necessarily like I don't know. I feel like you guys like said it in a way, that I was asking the questions, like I'm kind of more asking the questions for the viewers, like I know what goes into the success, not like sit here and pat myself on the back and be like I know everything.

Speaker 2:

But you know, it's true, though, because people you know, getting into this part of like how are they so good? It's like it's been years and all that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because, because I think it and like the way I was really trying to go at it was to kind of really target the fact that I think a lot of people's all their private schools, college, they got it easy over there kind of thing, where it's not it's not that easy, like you just pointed out, where you just fill people in, but I don't think it's easy anywhere, because at a public school you have to like you're dealing with 100 kids in the program. So it's like how do you satisfy 100 kids in the program? At the private school though, like you said, it's kids from all over the place. They're not like at Prior Lake or it's still water there. They all grew up together at Benilde, at Creighton, durham.

Speaker 2:

Hall, tom's.

Speaker 3:

Academy. Yeah, they're all from different places, all from different locations, all from different walks of life. Some people have to wake up and drive an hour to go to school. Some people are 15 minutes away. There's a lot of stuff that goes goes into that and, yeah, I don't think there's any one magic recipe. But, like you said, you got to get everyone involved. You have to get people invested. For most of the public schools it starts at the youth and then. But at the private schools you can't just sign up in ninth grade and say I'm playing lacrosse either.

Speaker 1:

I think it kind of proves that it's not just what's Benilde doing, copy it. What's Prior Lake doing, copy it. What's still water doing, copy it. Every community is different, every school's district is different, different things are going on in different areas of the state. So you kind of got to figure out what's, what's the culture again, to kind of summarize in one word what's the culture, your community, what you know, make it work. You know in the, in the way that's going to, you know best foster and best pump up the kids and the families in the community you know, in your area.

Speaker 1:

Well, goltz, thanks for thanks for joining us this evening to break down this list. I thought it was interesting, you know, to kind of look back in the, in the era that we are currently in, the post covid era, before we start looking forward as we break down each section and kind of dive into each team here, starting here in February. We just ripped through January. That was. That was a blink of an eye. So February here, before we know it, section breakdowns are in our near future. You know, I hope I don't know. I thought it was interesting to look back before we look forward. Goldz, you're going to be joining us at the coaches summit no.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I haven't registered yet, still trying to talk with our fearless leader, evan Highlock, on working the deal with getting our registration paid for by the Blake School. Excellent, love that, but nonetheless, whether it gets paid for by, the professional development.

Speaker 3:

I will be there. I will. I will find a way to register and get to that summit. Absolutely Looking forward to it. A lot of great speakers. I had to take some notes from coach Clem on the pod a few weeks ago to walk in there and not think I'm the smartest guy in the room, because sometimes that's really hard for me to do. But I'll get out the notepad, try to take some, some notes away and, like Ted said, I might make a, depending on where I think I can learn from. I might pop into some of the girls seminars and see what they have to offer, see if I can take anything from their game and add it to mine.

Speaker 2:

So I told you time and time again you'd be an awesome girls coach.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, I mean thank you. I should say thank you for that before I start bragging about myself. But midbo and I have talked about it just based on the rule book, because we think there's some fairly dumb rules. Well, you are and girls across like just there's dumb rules. We think that there's in boys across too, but the whole fact that you guys don't have a time limit to clear the ball blows my mind. The goal we can like leave the crease and then are they allowed to go back in.

Speaker 2:

Oh yes, that's a new rule.

Speaker 3:

There's something like that. So I mean, maybe sneak peek to all these girls coaches out there. They're struggling to win one goal games you get ahead. If you get ahead, take your whole team, have a campfire.

Speaker 2:

There's no stall rule either.

Speaker 3:

Have a campfire around the crease and have your goalie get the ball and just sit there and walk in and out. I just gave you guys the secrets of winning a few extra games, so thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1:

So we're going to do some real coaching, development and real learning goals. You don't have to worry, goals won't be a speaker for the girls program or the boys, but he won't be speaking on how to win girls lacrosse game one goal games. But I am excited about the lineup. As gold said, I'm excited about the lineup of speakers. Shout out our sponsor, old Southern Barbecue. They'll be making sure that we are all well fed at lunch. And then we got a little networking opportunity. Little networking opportunity. Get to connect with like minded people. You know these, these coaches. You know I I'll speak for myself. I know I'm a little weird. I think we're all a little weird. Everyone on this call is a little weird and we we. You know it's good connecting with like minded, you know weird coaches. So I'm excited for that opportunity to meet coaches in the area you know and and and we're gonna be doing that at the point shout out them a good, family owned local business. They've got kids in the lacrosse community as well. So I'm happy that we get to support their, their local businesses.

Speaker 1:

Well, on February 17th, if you're interested you want more information down the alley podcom slash summit. You can also register there and I'm excited to see you and, if we don't already know each other, meet you on February 17th. If you're from out of state, we also. We also have a virtual option so you can sign up for the virtual summit. Same day, same time, not the same place. You can do that from your couch. So down the alley coaches summit. Thanks for tuning in this week. We will be back next week with a section one breakdown.

Speaker 3:

Thanks for tuning in, adios thanks for having me, as always.

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