What in the Actual…with Gaby Borja and Jozlyn Rocki

S7, EP 206

Tonight’s episode ends up being an impromptu convo with just Gaby & Jozlyn about all the random chaos at the chaos table… Good thing Jozlyn brought her pile of sticky notes! We find out how many F words Gaby can actually say in an hour! Why did Jozlyn get another bug in her eye road biking! Jozlyn shares she had a repeat client two years later.  Joz’s son was short listed on an animated project!  We both share all about how we mom… Gaby has an impromptu pool party & Jozlyn gives her kids disclaimers when sharing  advice . Of course we hold our round table question at the end where we answer a random question. This weeks question is “what’s one movie scene we like & why”!  

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Transcript

Angela Cortez 0:02

This is a podcast where a group of friends document their creative paths in and out of the booth and beyond the screen while also exploring the journey and origin stories of other fellow actors to learn from, get inspired by, and connect with our community as we share our ups and downs and, of course, our chaos along the way. Welcome to Keeping Up with Chaos from the Booth and Beyond.

Jozlyn Rocki 0:28

Welcome back to another week of Keeping Up with Chaos. This week is Gabby Borjaw and Jocelyn Rocky. We are sitting down at the chaos table. We are waiting for our guest who just happen to not be able to make it, but that's okay because I had a stack of sticky notes with talk points to chat about, and we always have life chaos to share as well. So, uh, and business chaos. So sit down, grab yourself a drink. Maybe if you're heading out the door to go for a walk with the dog, put on your shoes, make sure your shoelaces are tied, and uh let's get on with the conversation. Thanks for sharing us and thanks for coming back every week. We really appreciate you. On to the conversation. Hi. Hey, can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. I'm just looking something up really quickly. Trying to hurry.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Jump in here.

Jozlyn Rocki 1:22

I was so worried. I was like, oh my gosh, she's on. You're always like on location.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

I'm on location. Literally on location. But I think this is a good room. I'm just gonna turn the lights on. Hold on.

Jozlyn Rocki 1:35

Yeah, no, it's it's good. I'm writing something down really quickly. Just like a little fun fact. Hold on one second.

unknown 1:41

Cool. Okay.

Jozlyn Rocki 1:42

Your hair looks really pretty. Oh, thank you. I um I used sweating. I'm sweating. It's funny. Um, yeah, I just it's it's been like a rough couple of weeks with like I I don't know. Like it's been like I have like had my youngest home sick with the flu. Of course, he we had flu B. Yeah. So it's like, you know, we we can't even be on the A team. We gotta be on the the B team. I joke. I'm joking. I joke. That's a bad joke. But like, so we've been dealing with that, and it just feels like I don't know. I I I don't know if I need to go on a vacation or if I need to like like lock it down and just like not do anything, you know, for like a little bit and just kind of like you need to reset. Maybe, I don't know. I I yeah, maybe. I mean, I had so many high hopes for 2026, and then January let me down, and February has just been kind of a meh, you know, kind of month. I'm like waiting for it to be over, and I'm like, well, maybe March will be better.

unknown 2:43

I don't know.

Jozlyn Rocki 2:45

Oh God, I don't know. I hope so. Yeah. Uh I did have a repeat client come through off uh a direct booking site, so that was exciting. They had booked me back in 2024 and they came back and booked me again. Very cool. Yeah, so that was exciting. I didn't make very much money, but um, and it was for like an internal yeah, it was it was like a repeat client. And so I actually found them and went to their website and just reached out to them. Like it was for, you know, obviously they're the only way you could contact them was like, you know, as if like you were a client seeking out their services. And so I just put in the notes like, hey, you know, like so. We'll see. I mean, that was a little ballsy, I think. And it was probably against like protocol for like the direct booking site, but I'm kind of like I we won't name names, but I'm kind of like getting away from that platform anyways. And so I was like, well, if they're gonna book me again, you know, I want to at least be able to give them my information somehow. Yeah, yeah. You know, because I feel like that's like the natural order of things.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

I feel like plus those platforms, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna make connections, you're gonna network. So I think so.

Jozlyn Rocki 3:56

I mean, some people might poo-poo it, but I think that's like the natural order of things. You know, it's like you get on pay-to-plays, that's how you start finding, that's how you start finding auditions, that's how you start finding and building your client list. You get on production rosters, you start, you know, I don't, I would never in a million years ever like reach out to a client direct if I booked from um like a production roster. I feel like that's like a big capital N, capital O. But like when it comes to like pay to play or like direct booking sites, um, I feel like it might be considered a little offsides, but like I feel like it's the natural order of things and things like whether it's the client initiating it or like we initiate it, I feel like eventually you do go off platform. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Eventually you do. I mean, once you get booked, you do have to record, and then you know, you you exchange emails and source connect info, and you know, it's it's just natural, it naturally happens.

Jozlyn Rocki 5:01

I think so. Um so I had this epiphany because you know I have a day day job, which is like, you know, we've talked about this, it's like parallel to like you know, the things that we talk about, you know, in terms of like entertainment industry and all that kind of stuff. But um, so it's nice to have like a steady paycheck, but it's like weird being in the corporate world again because I was always working in a small town, family-owned, like local business, you know, w in radio when I was, you know, years ago, decades ago.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 5:34

So it's weird to be corporate. And um, and so like I had this like epiphany the other day where you know, we have like ways to communicate, you know, like messaging boards or whatever, and you we have like two teams, and so we have like one whole team where you can message, and then you have like little individual messages with individual people you work with or like a small are just like smaller team. I don't know how long I spent. Did I tell you this already? I spent maybe I did off the record, but um with our last podcast guest, Stephanie. Oh yeah, yeah. I do you know how long I spent trying to choose a GIF, not a gift, a GIF, G-I-F. Oh, a GIF, yeah. A GIF. Is it a GIF or a GIF? Well, I I I've heard it both ways. I call it GIF. Tomato tomato, potato tomato. Yeah, exactly. So I was like, Yeah, you did. I was like, what the you know, like am I doing right now? I'm literally trying to respond to like someone else saying something in conversation, and it wasn't even like anything to do with work. It was just like a conversational thing, maybe about weather, could have been about food. I don't know. But like when the moment passes, and then it's not as funny as and then I'm like second guessing my comment with my gift, and I'm like, what in the actual hell am I doing? Like, this is so dumb. Like you can't overthink it. I totally like I overthink it and I thunk it, whatever. I was like thinking about it and then rethinking about it, and then uh thinking about it, and then I stopped, and then like I went back and did some work and then I went back and I was like, what in the actual fuck am I doing? Like just make the comment if you're gonna make the comment, you know? And send the gif if you're gonna send it. Yeah, so it was so stupid. Like, I don't even know why.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

You know, I think we all we all find ourselves in those situations where you kind of second guess everything and you you kind of second guess what you're doing.

Jozlyn Rocki 7:33

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

Thank you, sweetie.

Jozlyn Rocki 7:35

Oh sorry, no, you're good, you're good. Um he's he's swimming and oh, and had his socks on. That's hilarious. Mom life. Yeah, that's so funny. Um, yeah, I mean, whatever. I just thought it was hilarious because I was like, what in the actual like why just pick a gift, just pick a gif, like pick, pick, pick it. You're like the best. You send the best. Oh, thank you. You know, like you always send like the best.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Like, but there are times where I overthink it. And if I find myself overthinking it, I don't send it. Because then I have to explain why I like you know what I mean? Like in our VO group, sometimes I'm like, oh, that would go great with this gif, but then if I can't find it, I'm like, never mind. I I won't send it because everybody's responding so quickly. Sure. I'm like, it's gonna get lost in translation.

Jozlyn Rocki 8:24

I think we all know. We all know. I um I have to check something really quickly because like I've like, I'm like, did I turn anything on the stove? I don't think I did. I actually burned another pot like this week. I literally was making oatmeal and burned water. My oldest is like, did you really? I'm like, I like lit literally did, like literally burned water again. Like, no, I'm like, I never learn. I never learned. Hold on one second, I'll be right back. I like swear, I'll be like two seconds. It's like it's like I had to check the curling iron because I I actually used some dry shampoo and then curled my hair today.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

And then it looks beautiful.

Jozlyn Rocki 8:59

Thank you. You you always say that. So I'm I mean, I think I love your hair.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Thank you.

Jozlyn Rocki 9:03

Thank you. I love thank you. Yeah, this is the longest it's been in a like a long time. Um, okay, so remember I was telling you about my son. Um, he had auditioned for uh I said off record, he had auditioned for like a pretty big like animated type gig. Like he's he said to me the other day, he's like, you know, I haven't I I I really am not really enjoying like the commercial stuff. He's like, I really do like the character stuff, and he's been working on a lot of that with like one of his coaches that he meets with, um like you know, like a couple times like a month or whatever. But um he so he auditioned for this character, like two like kind of big animated um projects. And um, and yeah, you obviously I can't say what they are, but one they like actually were interested and said, give us, you know, so I was like, Are we shortlisted? And they're and you know, our contact was like, I'm not sure, but just send me your avails. So we sent a veils, and then she was like, Okay, you're for sure shortlisted, like I need like for sure avails like with specific dates. And so we had um it's like and then I didn't hear, and it went for for a while, and I was like, Oh shoot. And then um, then they like ended up going in a different direction. I hate when they say that. We're going in a different direction. And I was like super bummed when my kid was like, you know, he was like, okay, whatever, cool, whatever. I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

And then he was like, I'm doing something right, mom.

Jozlyn Rocki 10:36

He's like, I'm whatever, you know, he is like, and apparently they did say like they, you know, they're gonna move, they're gonna keep them, you know, in the back of their head, you know, like obviously they were interested in if something comes up later. But I was just like, I think I was more disappointed than he was.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

It tends to happen. I mean he's your kid, he's your son. Obviously, you want him to have the best um experience. And you know, you've been in that position where you've been shortlisted and it doesn't go through. And you know, it's it's a bummy feeling. Why would you want your kid to feel that? So it's understandable that you feel that way.

Jozlyn Rocki 11:20

I know. I it took me like I'm getting better at like sort of getting over it, I guess I would say. Um, I'm gonna check my email because you did get you obviously you got the zoom link. Um so I want to make sure because our guest is not here yet, so maybe he's running a little bit behind. Oh well, we'll just keep going.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Sorry, I wanted to move because there's a window there, and eventually there's gonna be people, and I don't want to it's gonna be a distraction.

Jozlyn Rocki 11:48

Yeah. Well, I mean, it happens. We're just gonna keep going because hopefully our guest is a little bit late, but hopefully um he will come. So I sent the email um and he confirmed. So we'll see. Uh I had another, so like remember I had just said that I had to leave to go check to make sure I didn't have anything on the stove, and I had to also make sure I had my curling iron turned off. Yeah, I had an like I had another biking situation. So, like I know. So my husband always says, the man babe always says, like, wear like protective goggles. And I'm like, I don't like them because they kind of like wrap around. And I don't want to wear sunglasses because I just don't want like a tan line. Because I do bike, you know, anywhere from three to like seven miles. I call it road biking because I'm but I'm like in my neighborhood. I don't go on like any major roads. Um, I really should be geared up, right? Like I should like, if I'm doing this on a regular basis, not just going for like a you know, like a stroll on my bike like down the road. Like I'm like using it as an exercising tool.

unknown 12:48

Yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 12:50

This time I was like, oh my God. I was riding my bike. Did I tell you this? I was riding my bike and I was going really fast. I was listening to some like, I don't know, Pantera or Rob Zombie or something like something like heavy-hitting. To get you motivated. Yeah. And I was like, you know, all right, let's go. You know, like, and I was kind of having a conversation in my head, you know, and and it kind of comes off of like some of the like heavy feelings that we've gone through in the last like month, you know, from losing our close friends. So I was like, all right, bring it. You know, like I was kind of having one of those moments where I was just kind of working through some stuff. And then all of a sudden, I like loop around and something goes like right in my eye, and it started stinging. And I like had to stop, pull over, like so I wasn't in the middle of the road again this happening. And it like was in my eye. Like, and so I was trying to use like a water bottle to try to like rinse that. I couldn't get it. I was like, oh my god, like what is this? It was like stinging my eye. I was like, I was probably so I got home and I literally had to, I have like a like an eye rinse. So I was using the eye rinse, and it was like literally stuck in the white part of my eye. Then I had I got it down into like the lid, like down in like the bottom, you know, and then I like almost got it, and then it went right back up, and then it was a nightmare. I had it like I had to use a Q-tip to get it like out, and then it was like a mess. And so I had to call like the you know, the telehealth doctor, and they gave me some like you know, ointment to put in it, and I ended up I ended up having to go to the eye doctor, but it's a good thing because I needed to establish what the eye doctor But like low emotion.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

What type of insect was it?

Jozlyn Rocki 14:29

Well, that's I saved it and I brought because it was hard. It was like a tiny little like black, it looked like a sesame seed. Okay, and so um I saved it in such a dork. I saved it in like a Ziploc bag with a Q-tip um for reference. And yeah, the the technology We need a picture. I don't know if I it's it's gone. Like I wish I should have taken a picture. Um I'll have to look because maybe I sent it to my husband, maybe I can find one. But um I sent it to like I brought and so the tech, like that, you know, the whatever the eye tech before you see the doctor was like, oh, that looks like a noceum. And I was like, oh, well, I guess I saw the noceum in my eye. Like I was like, what the what the actual fuck again? Like literally, like I I've had so many what the actual fuck moments in the last like month, I was just like, what in the actual? And so, but it didn't scratch my eyeball. Like I the doctor like was able to look and did the whole test and I'm good, you know, because I need to see.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Yeah, yeah. I mean it would be nice to see. Um you know, they say that when you're when you feel that your life is falling apart, it's like that storm before you get like all this peaceful, beautiful energy coming towards you. So hopefully it's just that and your storm has passed.

Jozlyn Rocki 15:52

I'm I'm back prepping. Like I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I've read something about that before where like it feels like your life is falling into pieces and like you're kind of like having all these what the actual fuck moments and then and then something good happened.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

And then re rebirth, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 16:10

Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like a Phoenix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to give less fucks, like coming off of our conversation with Stephanie. I'm trying to like give less fucks, like literally, because it's like I know that um it's too much energy.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Yeah, it is too much energy.

Jozlyn Rocki 16:32

It's very too much energy, it's a lot, a lot too much energy.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

Um by the way, I I I challenged myself to say 60 fucks, and well, it wasn't happening in an hour, and I realized that most of the time I say shit. And that's the word that my son has picked up.

Jozlyn Rocki 16:52

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

So he doesn't say fuck, but he does say shit.

Jozlyn Rocki 16:57

Nice. I think my kids say all the words, but I've got you know, an almost teenager and I've got a 20-something, and they're they're already on their way to making their own personal choices of words. It says like it's so weird because it's like your whole like the whole mom vibe is like, you know, like you make all the decisions from the very beginning, you know, like and then eventually like they turn 18 and then you get no choice. Like you have no choices, they're doing everything that they want to do in the way that they want to do it. And um going on. You just get to watch, yeah, and make suggestions. I do make suggestions, and then I always give the disclaimer, like, well, this is my experience, and I'm just sharing it with you, so take what you want and then throw the rest out. Or like, you know, I did have a moment though with my oldest where he actually, you know, called me from college and was like, Yeah, you might have been right. And I wasn't like, you know, but I was like, okay, I'll take it. You know, like yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

I love it. Do you actually say here's a disclaimer? I do.

Jozlyn Rocki 18:04

I literally like and there's been a couple times where um my oldest is like I remember having a conversation walking down the beach when he was much younger, like, you know, in but of age to be able to have us like a conversation about like, you know, things that would be maybe coming up, you know, that you know, because I don't feel like I need to hide things from my kids and maybe I overshare, but like I'd rather overshare than not involve them or like not tell them about stuff. And I feel like that's worked out in my favor, or it's worked out in watching my kids grow and mature and you know, they're you've given them a safe place. Yeah, making better decisions, you know, maybe breaking generational like bad choices. You know? So um, but I don't even know where I'm going with that. But like I, you know, and I remember him saying, like, wow, mom, I can't believe you're actually like having this conversation with me. It might have been about drugs and alcohol, you know. Like I was just like, I ha I have like a line that I always say, you know, like stay away from the hard drugs and stay away from the fast women, you know, like it was something stupid like that. So it's like kind of like funny. You need a bumper sticker with that. This is how I'm mom. Stay away from the hard drugs and the fast women. Actually, like, disclaimer, like crazy fast women. So um, I don't know, but yeah, that's that's that's all I got.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

I I think that's beautiful. I mean, the the fact that you give them that trust and they can call you up and say, you know what, I think you're right. And that takes a lot of guts to call your parent up and say you were right. That's a lot of trust in you.

Jozlyn Rocki 19:40

You know what's interesting, and I think I said this off record before, and I might have said it before too on the show, but like, um it's weird being a parent to a child that like I think is like an older soul than me. If you if I know it sounds a little woo, but it's like I recognize that like he's so much more grounded, and of course you want your kids to be better than you. Like that's like the ultimate goal of your parent, like parenting, at least me. Like, I want like I would like to hopefully watch my kids grow and develop and evolve and like have their own. Like, I feel like they're on their own path. They're not really like they came through me, they're not really example, like they're not like a they're like pieces of me, but like they are the they're not an extension of you, yeah. They're they are their own, they're their own soul, their own, they have their own path. Like I'm just here to guide and suggest, and like, you know, they're not like ex not extensions, but what I want to say, like um, like they don't reflect on me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like they are their own people, and that could be controversial, I guess, but whatever. So um I forgot where I was going with this, but um it's weird because he's like he is like an older soul, and so I and way more grounded and way more confident, and um has it's just it's neat to watch your kid grow into a young adult. That's what I want to say. It's neat to see that. It's beautiful, yeah. Because you worry so much when they're little and you're young, you know, and there's so much, and then like and then they get older, and then you're like, oh bye.

unknown 21:20

Stop.

Jozlyn Rocki 21:21

Okay, have a good time, you know. Like yeah. But I guess, you know, I mean, I don't know. It's just it's weird. And then I have one kid too that like my middle that I'm like, he's probably gonna be around hanging out for a while. Like, you know, I don't think he's gonna go anywhere. And my youngest is already planning on leaving, so he's just like as soon as he can, he's probably gonna be out there. He actually said to me today, he was like, I wonder what it would take to be an astronaut. And I'm like, I don't know. So like he Googled it. He's like, Oh, okay, well, that that doesn't seem so hard. I'm like, you can be whatever you want to be if you want to be an astronaut, that's cool. Like, I support.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Oh, that's beautiful.

Jozlyn Rocki 22:01

Does your son ever say that?

SPEAKER_02 22:03

Oh, yeah, of course. Um, he said this is his plan. He likes he has a plan. Okay, he's gonna be become a professional tennis player.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

And once he decides he wants to retire, maybe a couple of years before he makes the announcement, he's going to be an engineer.

SPEAKER_04 22:19

Oh, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

And he's gonna put his own like uh office and hire other scientists to create new new new things for the world. So wow, I love that. Like, okay, that that sounds great. But he has like it's so extensive, like his plan is so extensive, and he adds like little pinpoints and everything. I'm like, cool.

Jozlyn Rocki 22:38

Yeah, that's very cool. I think like it's you know, it's like it's it's it's interesting because like I think that um our parenting styles might be like similar. It's like you know, you if they're interested in something, you put them in it. And if they're not interested anymore, you take you just you know, you find something you take them out, you do something different. And my my youngest um like was like, Well, I'm not really into anything right now, and so I have a lot of free time. And I was like, Well, would you like to brainstorm on like trying to find some things like how about tennis? Like you're talking about tennis, or how about like golf, you know? And yeah, those are I feel like lifelong sports, do you think? I mean, I feel like they are. They are, they are. Yeah, I feel like you could do tennis and golf till you're like 90, you know? Like, I feel like you could do it forever.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Oh my god, yeah. Yeah, you can definitely do it forever. Forever.

Jozlyn Rocki 23:27

But he's like, no, and then he likes to draw, and I'm like, well, how about a drawing class? And he's like, no. I'm like, well, okay, well, voiceover it is. Like that's what we're doing. That's what we're and it and then he like admitted to me later, he's like, you know how you think like um your kids like something, and then later down the road, like I'm when they get older, they're like, Yeah, I didn't like that at all. Like, what? Like karate, he did karate for like ever. Like for like oh no. And he was like, Yeah, I I didn't like that at all. I just did it because I thought you wanted me to do it. I was like, no, that's not what that's not at all like the way I want things to, you know, to go.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Yeah. So he hasn't found his niche yet. I mean he will eventually.

Jozlyn Rocki 24:06

Well, I think too, there's like I I remember with when my kids when my first was younger, I always felt like I had to be doing something, and I don't feel like that anymore. You know? Yeah, like I feel like you can not do stuff. Like, I feel like people are like overly scheduled. That's true. You know what I'm saying? I'm overly scheduled, Jocelyn.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

Yeah, I am. I have no time to breathe. I don't sleep in. Like I am overly scheduled, definitely. Like yeah, even Saturdays, like I still wake up at 5 30 in the morning.

Jozlyn Rocki 24:40

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

I gotta be out the door by seven for tennis, for for uh for um no, it's um coordinate it's it is sports, but it's it has a specific name, right? It's like coordination and something else.

Jozlyn Rocki 24:55

But oh okay, like it's like a training, like to in order to like be better at the sport that you're like exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I yeah, like conditioning and coordination or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. That's funny. Like today I was mad because my one of my dogs that I always like, because you know, dog mom life, you know, kid mom life stuff. Like, she woke me up at 7 55 and I told my husband that today's the day I'm sleeping in. Like I'm not doing anything. And he's like, okay, she like he shut the he's like shut the bedroom door, and so she was right outside the door and she barked like at 7.55 and was like, Nope, you're not sleeping in any longer. You are getting up. She's like, get up, mom. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

You know, something like sorry, that was my microphone. The table's too slippery for for the base. Um, my chihuahuas, what they do is uh if if I wake up, they ignore me. If Dante is not awake, if my son is not awake, my my dogs will ignore me.

Jozlyn Rocki 25:56

Really?

SPEAKER_02 25:57

They wait until he wakes up for them to start their day.

Jozlyn Rocki 26:00

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

And I can call them and like open the door for them. No, no, they like look at me and go back back to sleep.

Jozlyn Rocki 26:09

He's the alpha. Yeah, he runs the he runs your pack.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

He does run our pack. I mean, when he when like he he's even gotten up in the middle of the night and he'll come over to our bed, right? Along with the dogs. Like they follow him.

Jozlyn Rocki 26:27

So then you're like, you've got a kid and some dogs, and yeah, yourself and your husband. Yeah. Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

We're all in there. All of us.

Jozlyn Rocki 26:36

My um, my husband actually, like, with being sick, like the man babe or whatever, like we've had I was sick as well as like my youngest recently. So he went to sleep in our um, like an extra bedroom because we've got our my 20, my my oldest is not living. He's like, he lives in his own apartment. So um he went and he's like, that's the best sleep I've ever had in like 20 years. I'm like, me too. I'm like, you weren't waking me up with your snoring. I like actually slept the whole night. I think maybe I got up once to go to the bathroom and like I went right back to sleep, and I wasn't like woken up by your snoring, and there's no kids in my bed because they're all too big, like they're all too old. And like the the dogs are not, they don't sleep in the room anymore. Like they sleep out in the family room. So I was like, oh my god, I actually like slept through the whole freaking night. Like it was amazing. I'm like, you could stay in your own room. I'm like, dude, that's your room now.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

Yeah, it's a great idea. I mean, I I've had that a couple times when Akta's been sick. Like he'll like move somewhere else so he doesn't get me sick. And I love it. I love it. And my aunt, who is like way older than I am, she's like, I I don't get the whole like sleeping together. Like, why? Why? Why would we do that to ourselves? Like, I sleep fine now that he's he has his own room because her her, yeah, her children are also like a lot older and they've moved out of the house already. And she's like, we sleep so well, right? Like it's amazing. It's amazing.

Jozlyn Rocki 28:02

We lit I literally said last night, I was like, I had a glass of wine. I was like, you know what? I'm like, I've slept better in twenty like in the last few weeks. Yeah. In like 20 years, like since having kids, you know, because you know, it's like the whole like pregnancy and not sleeping, baby, yeah, baby is all. Like, and I have like my kids are spread out, so like I feel like I didn't sleep for like 10 years straight, like literally.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

Yeah, yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 28:23

Um, even after they're here, like I feel like you know, there's we always had a kid in the bed or you know, whatever, they're waking you up. Um, but I was like, I this is the first time in the last two weeks I've slept better in 20 years. Like it's like amazing. And then, you know, and then I was like, I think the older generations that like I think they're on to something. I'm like, I think this might be the natural progression of like a mature, healthy, long-term marriage and relationship. Like, maybe you have to sleep separate. I was like, Exactly. It's a conversation we might have to have. We stumbled into it. Like we we we we did.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

I'm before, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can we can visit each other. We'll have a sleepover.

Jozlyn Rocki 29:05

No, it's not sleeping over, like it's it's a visit and then you can go. Like staying over. I'm just joking.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

Um maybe, maybe, right? Maybe if he plays his cards right. Yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 29:22

I mean, I think like everything evolves, right? Like we all need to pivot and evolve. I think like we've talked about this too in our business, you know, like taking a full-time job. You know, you have like illness or you know, things that come up in life, you know, or like maybe you go down one path and then you end up like in a different path. And I remember an old friend of mine from high school's mom saying to me that relationships are like almost like a like a radio wave, like you know, like sometimes you're like more closer together, and then sometimes you're like out here, you know. And yeah, but you always still come together. And um, and I, you know, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Yeah, it it makes sense. I'm right now, um, my husband's traveling, he's been traveling for the for the whole week. And like I miss him, but also like during the week, I was like, but this isn't so bad. But I also do miss him.

Jozlyn Rocki 30:13

Like, yeah, I know it's we it's a weird feeling. It's a weird, it's a weird feeling. I think like I I had this other conversation with like my neighbor. I was like, I literally have been with my husband under the same roof with my husband longer than with the people that brought me into this world. Wow. Right? So I left when I was like 17, 18. Yeah, and so we've been we'll be married. We've been together for well, we met in 02. So we've been together for um what 24 years? I think we'll be married for 22 years. So I'm doing the math because it's 2026. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, math and me, like doesn't really work. But so like I we've been together for like longer than like than any of them. You've lived with him longer than with your your the parents. Yeah, the people that brought me into this world. Isn't that weird? It's just like a weird thing. It is weird, yeah. It is so weird. Oh my god, I've never thought about it like that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, yeah, I mean, he probably knows he probably knows me better than my those people, you know, at this point, you know. Yeah I mean he's seeing like the evolution of of me, you know, like longer and more, like through more stages from my mid-20s into like where I'm at now.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

That's crazy, yeah. It is, it's a it's a nice perspective because you're absolutely right. I do think that um me personally, like my husband does know me a lot more better than than you know my parents. Um, but uh and sometimes my mom will come over the other time. She came over and she she said something, and uh my husband turned to her and said, No, Gabby, Gabby's fine, like she's gonna be fine, like she can handle this. Oh wow. And my mom was like, No, but she no, it's okay. She can handle it.

Jozlyn Rocki 32:03

Yeah, that's that's the nice feeling. It's it's I I said the same thing to my husband, like to the man babe. I was like, you are like unconditionally like my person. Yeah. You know, like we had a rough point, like I would say, like a few years ago.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

What relationship doesn't?

Jozlyn Rocki 32:22

Yeah. You know, it was like a it was that's a whole nother conversation. Like not nothing nothing happened, nothing was done, like nobody like, you know, like nothing like that. It was just like a weird disconnect, and like we had and we've we've had to weather through some things, but we were always on the same page, and always like once the storm sort of passed, we were like, you know, still like on the same platform. But this time it was a little bit different, and but now we're fine, and it's like, wow, we we made it through, talking about the storm, you know, like yeah, we made it through, and like um, it's just it's it's interesting, you know, because I think that all too often people just kind of bail on things when they get hard. I do think though that it's important to pivot in in business and life and like and letting go of friendships and letting go of relationships that like there's more negative than there is positive, you know what I'm saying? Like that that's I feel like that's important.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Um but like you said, like if there's more negative than positive, then okay, fine, you can like separate, you can pivot. But if there is more positive than negative and you're just going through a rough batch, I mean it relationships are very hard because you take two individuals that grew up completely different under completely different circumstances, and now they have to interact and create a new family, you know. It's like it's it's weird.

Jozlyn Rocki 33:45

And then you have like the extended family you have to deal with, and all those relationships that like now you've inherited, and then like you've got bring in kids, or you bring in dogs, and you have a house, and you have bills, and you have life, and you have like this whole world, which is like that's a whole nother like yeah, what the fuck? Actual fuck. You know, so I mean it's like it's it's an in it's it it is I think there are I think there's like a statistic that like 50% of marriages don't work out, you know, I think, or something like that. I think my oldest said that. He was like, yeah, and he was the he's on the whole like I'm not getting married bandwagon. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I was on that one too. And then I was on the I remember that one.

SPEAKER_02 34:27

Right? Me too. Were you? Yeah, I told my parents, I'm never getting married, I'm never having children.

Jozlyn Rocki 34:35

And then look at look at look at where we're at now. Yeah. Um it happens. It is. I think our guest has forgotten us, but we're just gonna keep moving and then we're gonna we're gonna do our little fun question because you are on location and you are taking time out of your time with your family.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

And it's fine. Um it's fine. I'm only like like I said, we're we're here to say goodbye to a friend of my son's who's going back to Canada. Nice. Um, and it turned into like a pool party. So I love that.

Jozlyn Rocki 35:06

It's fine. It's finally warm enough here for us to even like consider going to the pool. It's been so cold this like whole winter. It's been so it's not like the best at all.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

You know, the other day I was thinking about all the guests that we've interviewed and um that feeling of having finally having um made it that term, but I don't think that ever like I don't think you ever get to that term, right? What do you mean like I it just in general, like uh in acting and everything, yeah. Um I think once you're like we can see it and from the outside and think, oh, they've made it, you know, they they've gotten that, they they made it. But to them, it's like okay, great, I got this gig. Okay, what's next? Yeah, I gotta keep going. Yeah, yeah, you know, and and that takes a lot of pressure off. Or for me, it did.

Jozlyn Rocki 35:59

Yeah. I think we're all works in progress. Yeah. You know, like I think that like you think, oh, if I could just do this, and then you do it, and you're like, oh wow, okay, that wasn't as hard, or that was a labor of love, or you know, but I made it, or like that wasn't as hard, and I got there faster than I thought, you know, and then and then or like you end up in a different direction, right? And then you're and then you're a part of something that you never expected, you know, like on camera for me. Like I never expect and never that was not a dream, you know, of mine and then it until it was, right? And so you've had some of that experience too, yourself doing on camera work. But you're right, like there's always that, like, okay, well, now that I've made it here, and it's I feel like that's that that mountain analogy. You know, it's like you get I'm gonna get to that cliff and then that ledge, and then get to that ledge, and then you're like, oh.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Well, let me go higher. Yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 36:55

You know, so you go this way, yeah. Or you or maybe you're not going up anymore. Maybe you're going over, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Or different path. Yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 37:03

Or maybe you decided that you need to climb down a little bit to like, because what you thought was better or the next thing wasn't exactly what you were looking for. So maybe you need to like pivot or climb down a little bit. Yeah, that's that's interesting that you said that. And I think that we're all just kind of like winging it, you know. Like I think some of us maybe are a little bit more planned out than others, but I think like also taking that pressure off yourself and just like, you know, you gotta enjoy it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

Oh my god, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I enjoy auditioning, like I really do enjoy auditioning. And before I was I was nervous, I was overthinking the audition, and I was pressuring myself to get as many auditions as I could.

Jozlyn Rocki 37:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

Right. Um, and now I'm just having fun. Yeah, that's yeah, that's important. I'm not even thinking about it. Me too. And I get shortlisted and I'm like, oh, well, great. Cool.

Jozlyn Rocki 38:00

Yeah. And then it's like, okay, whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

Like I appreciate it because I know how many auditions they have to go through and listen to, which is which is nice because it tells me, like, oh, you're doing, you know, it's a thumbs up, like, you're doing something great. So yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 38:14

I I think that um when we first got our demos, because remember we got we were demo ready together, and then we we had our our demo launch release party or whatever together. And um, and like I too reflected back on like that period of time where I was like, oh, it's go time, right? Like that analogy of like now we've made it up to the top of the high dive and now we've jumped into the pool, now we have all the swimming to do. But it's like I remember taking that pressure off and you know, pivoting and getting a full-time, you know, job. So I've I have regular income coming in, and then it's like I don't feel that pressure to like have to like be auditioning and doing 20 auditions, and like, but I did I did think about like how many auditions am I doing daily? And and throughout the day, I probably am doing maybe like 10 a day.

SPEAKER_04 39:04

Wow, yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 39:05

You know, like maybe not every day, but definitely you know, and then but I'm also being more particular and in and maybe more like I'm shying away from pay-to-plays, more focusing on production rosters and then things that are being sent to me by my agents, you know what I'm saying? So that and then the other day I had um I I realized I hadn't gotten auditions from one roster. So you reach out to a secret roster. No, she all of a sudden um I got like four in a row, and I went back into the folder that I save all my auditions and then and so and put them in an email folder so that I can go back and um and I was like, when's the last time this particular roster sent me any auditions? And it was like in the fall. Oh, it'd been a minute. I mean, unless I didn't save one, and I was like, oh, okay, but but the feeling of like what you're talking about, that feeling of like stress, pressure, like being on this roster when I first got on it and the auditions I did, versus like it been a little while and then I got some I got four in a row. I was just like, fuck it. I did, I just had fun. I was like, that was all right, you know. And then I like I I really took into consideration of the fact that like it doesn't have to be perfect. It doesn't, I'm like, I'm not even editing breaths out anymore. I haven't been editing breaths out for breaths for a long time. Yeah. Now I think it's like a thing, you know, like leave in your breaths. And like it sounds like I'm saying breasts, but I mean breath, breath, breath, not breath.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

Now that you're not gonna it's it's gonna sound like that in my head. Breaths.

Jozlyn Rocki 40:41

So um, yeah. So, anyways, like yeah, so I yeah, I I agree with you. I agree with you.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

Um it's like saying breaths with a lisp.

Jozlyn Rocki 40:51

Yeah, I like why do I have a lisp all of a sudden? Like, what in the hell? Actual hell. I have okay, so I'm just gonna pivot really quickly because then we're gonna wind down. We're gonna do the fun question. I want you to go back and have fun with your pool, your impromptu pool party. What okay, so I got my sticky notes. Like, you know, coming off of the holidays, you order packages. Like, that's how I do all my shopping. I don't actually shop shop, I don't go to a store. Very rarely do I ever go to a store. I'm like, I'm a I'm an Amazon junkie, like I'm fully committed. Yeah. Um why? Like, I why do they put the packages outside the screen door and pile them up outside the screen door? Like, because I have an area between my main door and my screen door. So it's like a screened in little area, like doorway. And most of the time they like they'll open up the screen door and then they'll put the packages in like near the door and then take the picture. But like there's been a couple different times. And I don't know if it's if it's like the screen door is like stuck, so they think it's locked and they don't want to like break it. But like, why would you pile it up like in front of the screen? Like, why wouldn't you just like set it over to the side to the side? You know, like why? You're locked in. I was like, I'm I'm I'm like, I'm like packaged in, you know, like like a s if you're snowed in, I'm like packaged in. Like I can't get out my screen door. So it's like I like They want to see you crawl out your window. I know. They want to see me like have to go out my garage and open up my door and then really shamefully like grab all my packages. Like, oh man, like damn it. Look at her, look at her. She's getting all her packages.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

She's so feisty. Let's put some more there tomorrow. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. I I I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't have that that uh sim I'm not in the similar situation because I have the the guards in front, so they just leave all the packaging with oh they leave them at like the gate. Yeah.

Jozlyn Rocki 42:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

And then I just pick it up.

Jozlyn Rocki 42:45

Oh my god, you're funny. Um I am also obsessed with um all the social this is the last one, social media recipes. Like all recipes are on Instagram.

unknown 42:58

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

Like what I have a folder that says recipes and that's all the Instagram ones.

Jozlyn Rocki 43:04

Well, and I want to get that app that you can like, there's like I now see like that there's an app where you can actually, I think there's an app that you can actually download and actually so that you can save the the I think because like I actually will I will I will copy the Instagram like post and send it to my husband. He's like, why do you keep sending me all this stuff? I'm like, because I don't want to lose it. And then like, you know, or I'll send it to my old to my middle because he's my foodie, and like I'll be like, we should make this. And he's like, so he now he has Instagram so that he can actually open up the stupid like posts that I'm sending him. Half of them don't work out. Like I and I should like I'd say at least half. So it could be a me problem, you know, like it could be like a error in the cook's the an error from the cook side. But also some of them I think they make them look better than what they really are, you know what I'm saying? Some of them are like the the whole like one sheet mom dinner. Okay. You know, or like yeah, this is something that my kids aren't gonna throw on the ground, I think one of the social social media like um content creators says. Um and he's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

So look I'm gonna show you one that I I I did it yesterday. It's by this content creator. I'll I'll give you her name in a minute. Yeah, and they are they cook Italian dishes, like they're Italian, and they tell you like I this is Alfredo pasta. This is how to make it. And I made it yesterday, and Dante, my son, was like, oh my god, it tastes so good.

Jozlyn Rocki 44:36

It's like it's like we're in an Italian restaurant. I need that because my kids love Alfredo. I don't eat Alfredo, but like they love like Alfredo.

SPEAKER_02 44:46

Instead of butter, I did use ghee.

Jozlyn Rocki 44:49

I don't have ghee. I should get some ghee.

SPEAKER_02 44:51

You should keep gonna get some ghee.

Jozlyn Rocki 44:52

I gotta, I gotta get gheeed.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

I guess that's that's what it's send me the send it to me.

Jozlyn Rocki 45:01

Okay, so um, all right, so our our guest is um, we've been ghosted by our guest, but that's okay. Maybe I'll reach back out to him, maybe we can reschedule. But um it's always fun to like hang out with you. It is, and I want to get you back to we needed this anyways, I feel like. Yeah, I think we needed like I wish Angela and Lloyd were here, but Lloyd is I know um, you know, he's off in LA doing the LA thing, and um, and I'm so proud of him. And then Angela is busy, so um, she was like off like she was having her own like Gabby adventure, like all around the United States. So I can't wait to talk to her a little bit more and find out about her her adventures. But let's do the fun question and let me pull it up. So you pick the number. We'll put you on the spot. You pick the number.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

Let's choose the number 17.

Jozlyn Rocki 45:44

Okay, I'm almost past it. Hold on. Oh, wait, I think we already we already did 17.

SPEAKER_02 45:49

Okay, okay. Uh then the number uh what number between what and what?

Jozlyn Rocki 45:54

It goes one to like I mean, it goes to like all the way into the hundreds, so okay.

SPEAKER_02 46:01

117.

Jozlyn Rocki 46:03

117. Okay, good, good, good. Okay, let me let me scroll to it. Do you have any other uh chaos?

SPEAKER_02 46:09

Oh, you know, I did get my ears pierced. I think I I told you. Yes, so that one. I mean, this one is already pierced.

Jozlyn Rocki 46:16

Well we like the second hole.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Not yeah, the second hole.

Jozlyn Rocki 46:19

Oh, did you do it yourself or did you actually go?

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Oh my god, no, I don't have the yeah, no, nor the balls. The or the balls.

Jozlyn Rocki 46:28

You know, the I saw I saw like a social media content like creator like actually pierce her ears. I was like, I don't think I have my I have my second and I think I have a third, but like I don't I don't wear anything anymore. I just I just wear these little studs in my first hole, but I have my nose pierced, obviously. Would you ever pierce your nose?

SPEAKER_02 46:45

I did think about it when I was a teenager, and then what I did was I wore a rhinestone on my nose for like months to see if I liked it. And then I didn't like it, like I wasn't in love with it.

Jozlyn Rocki 46:57

Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

Yeah, so I didn't I didn't end up, but you know, the the whole like ear piercing thing, I was traumatized by the parent trap with Lindsay Lohan. So I I can't, I can't, I can't even look at when they pierce my ear. Like I can't even look.

Jozlyn Rocki 47:11

No.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

No, the the the lady was like, Do you wanna do you wanna see? And I'm like, no, no, turn this chair around. I don't want any mirrors.

Jozlyn Rocki 47:19

It's not even that bad, it's just a little, you know, right? True. It's one of those things where like you get it in your head and you think it's gonna be more than what it is. I overthought it. I overthought it. Don't overthink your don't overthink no more overthinking. We're just gonna do. We're just doing this. Is a year of doing. Exactly. Like with confidence and calm and like with no like not giving a fuck about it. We're just doing it. Yeah, we're not gonna give it a fuck. No more fucks. We're gonna have less fucks. Fuck. We're gonna just Okay. Anyways, that's a little reference back to our um previous podcast that we've already aired. So um, okay, so let me go to the fun question. Okay, 117. What plot of a movie would you most want to live out? I immediately went to no, I I immediately went to ghost, like with Patrick Swayze.

SPEAKER_02 48:15

Oh my god.

Jozlyn Rocki 48:16

That just popped in my head. I don't want to do that. But like, I mean, the man made probably would. I mean, now that we're living in separate rooms, but like I just that just popped in my head, you know, like that's just a classic, like live out.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

It's a beautiful movie, but I don't want that for your life, for your husband to pass away and then have this woman like come to you and tell you, like, oh, here your husband's around here, but you're also gonna, you know, he's he's gonna kill you. He has a friend who wants to kill you.

Jozlyn Rocki 48:43

And I was thinking about the pottery moment. Like with the pottery together.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

Okay, so it's it's it's not the whole movie, it's just no, just a like a scene.

Jozlyn Rocki 48:52

Like I was it's just a scene, like the pottery moment, like just like where they're making pottery together. It turns into this like sensual thing. Like that.

SPEAKER_02 48:59

Oh, okay, then that's beautiful. That's cute.

Jozlyn Rocki 49:04

Okay, another movie scene that I love is um Lady in the Tramp. It's my favorite movie. It's my favorite animated movie where like they get he goes and gets a spaghetti and then they're eating the spaghetti and then they end up with the noodle and then they kiss like that. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

Yeah, that's beautiful. Okay, so if it's like that, it's just one scene. I would love uh a scene from Moulin Rouge.

Jozlyn Rocki 49:27

Really? Yeah. Have I seen that movie?

SPEAKER_02 49:30

You've never seen that movie. I don't think. I mean it's musical. It's a musical. So they're they're uh I I think I I would love to be in a musical. I think I just love acting and singing. Those are my two things, right? Yeah. So I would love to do either their their love medley or the last scene, their last number.

Jozlyn Rocki 49:50

Is it an animated sh movie too? No, it's not, it's just a not that I know of. Is it? I'm thinking of something else. Awesome. All right. Well, that would have been a good question for our guests tonight.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Yeah. Also, another scene that involves dancing, the Titanic scene when she's like downstairs and their dance.

Jozlyn Rocki 50:13

You know the party scene. Oh my god, yeah. I love that movie. Like, I love that movie. I still remember, I like I can vividly remember going to the theater in my hometown with my best friend from high school, and like with like I saw on the big screen, you know, like so. Like, I love that movie in Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 50:36

Oh my god, yeah. I still remember it too. I mean, I don't know why I was there because I was seven. Maybe even with your mom. My my parents took me. We saw it on the big screen. I was seven, I was traumatized, and um, but you know, that's a lot of it, but I I enjoyed that that dancing scene. The other you have your thermo. The other scene, um the other scenes like towards the end. Do you remember how it was like a the when it came out on the VHS tapes? It was a two-parter. Was it?

Jozlyn Rocki 51:12

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:13

So I love the um I love the first part, right? The dancing scene, everyone. The second part, I I I I couldn't take it. Like as a kid, I it always made me feel very scared, like seeing all that panic and yes, it's very traumatic.

Jozlyn Rocki 51:29

Yeah, it was I don't know why my parents took me, but I mean, I think I was thinking about this today too, because I was thinking about all the different movies that like I might have seen when I was younger, and like especially like horror movies that like and I was thinking to myself, like, I hated watching them, and like why why were we under the age of 10 at sleepovers watching these like horror movies? Like, where were the parents? They were sitting in the kitchen having wine and ordering playing pinockle and like hanging out, and we were down in the basement watching like terrible, terrible well. Oh my god, yeah. The Exorcist, the Blair Witch project. Yeah. I'm thinking Jason, Freddie. I mean, like, I watched The Shining with my mic.

SPEAKER_02 52:10

Oh my god.

Jozlyn Rocki 52:12

I mean, it's a classic. I mean, like, I I think I watched it, I also watched The Shining in the movie theater, like in college. Like around Halloween, but I was older, but like, yeah, Jaws. I mean, I watched Jaws with my my youngest. He's like 12, though. And like I was like, this is classic, we gotta watch this. Like, this is a classic movie. It's considered horror. I'm like, I watched it young, under the age of 10. Like, for sure. Like young. Yeah. Shining, Jaws. Like, I was like, why? Like, why? Why why are we watching this movie? Like, it was the 80s. Everything happened in it, like, you know.

SPEAKER_02 52:43

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think back and look at our nutrition and I'm like, yeah. Pop darts and yeah, pop pockets.

Jozlyn Rocki 52:53

Sonny D. Sonny D. Oh my god, Sonny D. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Twinkies and ho-hos and like all kinds. They still have all that junk now, but anyways. All right. It was so good to see your face and like hang out with you. And um go have fun with your pool, your impromptu pool pool party. Tomato tomato. All right. Um, all right. I will we'll have to like reconvene. Maybe we will reschedule our guests and um we'll have to get Lloyd and Angela on and do a little, a little like update with just the four of us.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Yeah.

unknown 53:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

That's that's overdue.

Jozlyn Rocki 53:31

Yeah, very overdue.

Angela Cortez 53:32

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