American Roots Outdoors w/ Alex Rutledge

Scout's Missouri Youth Turkey Hunt w/ Richard Kraft

Wayne Lach, Mike Crase Season 8 Episode 17

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Alex Rutledge and Red Bone are joined by special guest Richard Kraft — owner of Gelco Outdoors in Fort Smith, Arkansas — to share the story of his 11-year-old grandson Scout's successful Missouri youth Turkey hunt. After two years of near-misses, Scout finally closes the deal on a longbeard in the Missouri Ozarks. The guys break down the full hunt strategy — roosting the birds the night before, working through hung-up gobblers and seven Jakes, and finally making the right call to seal the deal. They also discuss the deep bond between a grandfather and grandson, lessons learned in the field, and why passing down the hunting tradition matters. Bonus segment: Turkey and crappie recipes plus a look inside Gelco Outdoors.

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  • 0:00 – Intro & Welcome
  • 3:09 – Cardinals, Chiefs & Current Events
  • 9:05 – Scout's Story – Who Is He?
  • 17:30 – The Hunt Breakdown – Strategy & Setup
  • 23:01 – The Final Call – Closing the Deal
  • 26:47 – Grandfather & Grandson Bond
  • 35:18 – Podcast Bonus – Recipes & Gelco Outdoors



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 So our plan of attack the next morning with Richard and Scout, we sit down and discussed it, looked at the Onyx. I said, we're gonna walk all the way down the end of this ridge. We're gonna circle down and go down the end of the ridge, walk down into a bottom to a big pine grove thicket, and they're gonna be roosted and a small food plot down there, uh uh, on a noble woods down there. We're gonna be within 150 yards of 'em when we set up on 'em on the roost. So we get in there, no blinds. Uh, they're sitting in their chairs. I got 'em facing. I set up a Aian X and decoy in the road facing towards them about 20 yards. And it's not even daylight yet. We're in there at five 40. Probably 5 45. And what happens at 6 0 1 when it's still dark? Richard, he gobbled for the first time and you said he'd been starting about six 15, but he camel boots on my feet bow in my hand, walking in the early dawn to climb up. Stand, Alex. I know it's about food plot planting time. What are you gonna plant this year? Okay. In the spring I like to plant different things and also in the fall, but my go-to all the time is the eagle seed smorgasborg because as a variety of blends, you know, when I was a kid and even as an adult, I loved to go to a smorgasborg. I bet it's the same for. It is they, they have a variety to choose from. Instead, eating one thing all the time. They got a variety just like you walking into a restaurant, get SMS board today and you'll hold more deer and Turkey. How can I go about getting that SM board to go to a dealer near you or go to ww eagle seed.com? Intro & Welcome Wi Technologies presents. Welcome to American Roots Outdoors. I am calling via phone from my house and Red Bone. Thank you for doing the show with us, and I'm sorry to hear the news. Of, uh, Nina's brother, man. Uh, our prayers condolences are with you guys. Well, we appreciate that. We really do. And, uh, he's been in a long battle since a head-on collision back on Halloween night down in Florida, and it's been a long ordeal, but, uh, you know, uh, like I told her, he's all healed now. Uh, he's with his mom and dad. Yes, and, and things are good. Thank you Alex. Yes, sir. Well, we'll praying for you guys and, and we love you guys. And guys here it is Turkey season youth season's over in southern Missouri, uh, well in Missouri and Arkansas and around southern states. And, uh, we're gonna be talking about a youth Turkey out. We've done. This past weekend with one of my very good friends, Richard Kraft and his 11-year-old grandson scout. This makes the third year he is come to Missouri Red Bone with me. And the first year he just wasn't, didn't get the shot off or something went right. And the second year he misses one, and this year he closes the deal. We're gonna talk about that in segment two. But right now we want to talk about current events, things that's going on. Okay. And, uh, our first thing I wanna say is Cardinals, Chiefs & Current Events what about those cardinals and our special guest, Richard Krafts on there with us? Welcome to show, Richard. Thank you. Glad to be here. Yes, sir. And Richard, your daddy was a big Cardinals fan? Well, actually I'm a big Cardinals fan. My daddy was a big Cub Cubs fan. Oh, oh, okay. But anyway, uh, he, we had a lot, lot of jabbing back and forth over the years till he passed away. But my, my dad grew up on a farm in North Carolina and, uh, they used to ride in a wagon down to the neighbor's house that had the radio and he could listen to the Chicago Cubs when he was a little boy, and that's why he became a, a, an avid cub fan. So well, we'll, we'll let you red ball. We'll, we'll let you be on the show anyway, but, okay. Yeah, I grew up in St. Louis Cardinal. Cardinals are 10 and eight right now. Yeah, they're, they're, they're okay. Uh, they haven't played any of the really good teams in, in the MLB yet this year. 'cause the season, you know, only 14 games in, but you know, they're okay. The pitching is still, still suspect Alex and the bullpen is just not very good. Yeah. What's your thoughts, Richard? Well, I think they're in a rebuilding mode and it's gonna take a couple years and. Maybe some spending a little money on some free agents or whatnot. Maybe we got something coming up through the farm club, but, you know, it, it, uh, it's gonna take a few years to get back up to where we all expect the Cardinals to play at the level that they're supposed to play at. Yeah, I would agree. And, and I think they gotta get an up, an upgrade on, on the bench with the manager. I'm, I'm just not a Ollie fan. And the team actually has been on this trajectory ever since Tony Lar Ru up left. And I, I mean, that's the kind of guy you gotta have if you're gonna rebuild it. I think. I mean, just my 2 cents worth. Yeah. So Richard, you think they got some building to do and I agree. And this leads me to the Chiefs man. Look at some of the acquisitions, the Chiefs. We're gonna switch gears a little bit here and talk about football. Look what the chief has acquired. Red Bone and Richard. Yeah. Yeah. The Chiefs are, I mean, they've done some stuff here in the off season to make themselves better at some places where they were, uh, you are hurting a little bit. Uh, I'm still a little bit disappointed they haven't gone, uh, a little harder after some cornerbacks to receive, to, uh, replace the cornerbacks that they lost, you know, that that went elsewhere. But, uh, Tony, I mean, uh, uh. Uh, coach Reed, Andy, he knows what he's doing. The front office, ve and gang, they know what they're doing better than we do out here, just watching it from afar. So, uh, I trust that they will get the job done, Richard. I think they will. What do you think? Oh, Reed's been successful everywhere. He is been. He is won Super Bowls there. Multiple Super Bowls with the Chiefs. You know, the, the NFL set up that you're not gonna stay on top for. For very many years. Yeah. Because your draft picks and everything get lowered, and then with free agency and everything, and then you know, the shelf life of your players, you know, one or two injuries to key players. It, it can change the, the whole trajectory of the team for a while, so. Mm-hmm. But, uh, re Reid will get 'em back where they need to be. He'll have, he'll have the right players in the right place. Yeah. But, but here's the thing. I think, uh, Richard is, is when the season starts, Patrick Mahomes is not gonna be behind center. I mean, he keeps talking about his, his rehabilitation from the knee surgery is, he's recovering ahead of schedule, but they're not gonna rush that he's too valuable for the team. And I think for the first month of the season, the chiefs are really gonna struggle because they're gonna have a backup quarterback. Well, I, I would agree. Go ahead, Richard. Who, who knows if, you know, if Patrick, even with, if he's hit of schedule and all that, will, will he? Ever be the same that he was before the injury too, you know? Exactly. That's, that's kind of the unknown factor, but, uh, yeah, I agree. I agree. Well, guys, uh, Richard got to come with me again for the third year. Uh, Richard took me to Mexico with him last year, and I got to kill my first school. We had a great time down there. And I always look forward to having Scout and Richard here at our camp, and we're gonna talk about that in segment two of our show. And we're gonna go to a break and we come back. We're gonna hear the whole story of how Scout closed the deer deal. On a big old mountain ridge runner, don't go away. We'll be back with more right after this. Hey, this is Eddie Salter, and you listen to American Roots and Outdoors with Alex Ru and Friends. Wishing on some love. I've been on a big red bone. Wza has just gotten better with these new cameras that they come out with. How could it get better? Well, they got the new mini and they've got the new DC two. They have a DC two. Yeah, DC two. You can actually go live anytime you want and film your own hunts with the wise eye data count. Now wait a minute. You mean I could be getting ready to shoot a deer and I could go on my phone and activate my camera and boom. Film? Your own. Well, that's amazing. That's amazing. Okay, Alex, you convinced me. How do I get one of these cameras? Go to a dealer near you or go to wise tech do com over yours today to a big 12 point hunting blinds Presents. Scout's Story – Who Is He? Welcome back to American Roots Outdoors, calling in via phone from my cabin, my lodge. And again, we're gonna talk about a successful youth hunt with my very, very good friend, Richard Kraft. Richard is the owner of Gel Co Outdoors, a magnificent outdoor sporting goods store in Fort Smith, Arkansas. And Richard and I have been friends for over 20 some years now, and I actually met Richard through Eddie Salter. We've become good friends and like I said earlier in the show, uh, he's brought his grandson up here the last three years to deer hunt and Turkey hunt with me. And the first two years he didn't get it done. And the third year we got it done. Richard, I think the first thing I want you to talk about Stout, explain to everybody, uh, uh, what type of person scout is and how intelligent he is and how he is with musical instruments and all this and about his faith. Talk about scout. Scout's. My, my oldest grandson, the first grandson, the one that made me a poppy, and, and, uh, he's been going with me ever since. You know, he is five or six years old to the woods and been with him when he killed his first deer and, and, uh, was with him when he killed his first Turkey. And so anyway, we worked out and I will come up. Visit with Alex and, and, uh, his wife, and they're at their place, uh, three years ago. And, uh, scout was still a little young. We were having to use a tripod for him to try to shoot off of him, and we were just, didn't, never could get, get a bird where he could get on it. And, uh, but he, he learned a lot about it. And then, uh, last year, uh, we had an old Gober out there, about 20 yards in front of him. And, uh. Birds were getting a little nervous, and Scott was a little nervous moving around and, and he did like all of us, he, uh, he missed and I've been there. He kind of got upset and had a few tears in his eyes and I said he did. Uh, if you've never missed, uh, you, you haven't had very many turkeys, so this will, this may be your first miss, but it won't be your last miss. And, uh, yeah, we'll, we'll come back and get him again. And, uh, so this year we went back and of course he's 11 now, and, and he's, he's a lot more experienced and, uh, handling the shotgun. And, and, uh, so we finally got him on a, on a bird. And, uh, it took a little while, but, uh. And, but this was a, uh, this bird was down below us and you could just barely see his head in the tip of his fan. And, uh. Kind of scout really kind of cracked me up. 'cause he, he said, poppy, there's two birds there. And I said, no son, there's just one there. He said, well, his head's red and his head's blue. I said, it's the same bird. They do that all at the same time. I said, but when he, when he comes past that pine tree right there, you better get on him and bust him. 'cause that's, that's gonna be your chance. 'cause you're only gonna get to see the head. And, uh, I sit there and watched him and, uh, watching the bird and, and, uh, he, he flipped that safety off and he, he rolled him up and, uh, the kid was just beyond excited about it. And, uh, but he's a good boy and, uh, he's very musically, uh, talented. He's, he's been playing on with, with knives and fors and spoons at the restaurants, like they were drums since he was two or three years old, and he's been taking drum lessons. Or five or six years now. And he, he can really play the drums and, and he, he's going to pro progress with that next year in the school, in the band program. He, he'll move up to, um, sixth grade next year. So we're looking for great things, uh, with his music ability and, and, uh, and he's, uh. Uh, he started calling with his mouth the other day and, oh man, he's just, he's just about got, sounds just about like a real, he with just his, with his mouth himself without using any call and, uh, taking him to Kansas tonight. And we're going to do, uh, we're gonna hunt this weekend in Kansas and uh, I'm gonna probably let him try it with his mouth. Just see what he can do this weekend. Yes. And, uh, see how that works out for him. But, uh, he's, uh, he enjoys being with Alex and, uh, uh, the, the tame Turkey there. He, he runs right to that pen soon as we get there. And, and he starts, he does every time. Yeah, every time. He is, he really enjoys that. So, uh, anyway, it was a great hunt, great time with. Spinning there with Alex and, uh, we made him towed his own bird outta the woods this time. So he's, he's kinda moved up to, to, uh, being a little man, so it's awesome. Thank you for sharing that with us. Red Bone. I'm sure you want to ask something. Well, what I wanna ask is, uh, uh, uh, he is, is Scout his actual name or is that just what you call him? Because if, if they named him Scout, he's gotta be a musician. I mean, that's just all there is to it. Well, his, his real name is Scout, and his middle name is Richard, which he's named after me. Sure. So, uh, we, but, uh, yeah, Scouts is the name. He goes by and, uh, uh, he, his mother actually came up with a name scout out of the book To Kill a Mockingbird, the name Scout really. Some reason, but that's kind of the first, she came up with a name, but, uh, anyway, that's what we call him, scout boy. Yeah. I can just, I can just, I, I wanna say this. Go, go ahead. Red Bone, I was gonna say, I can hear it now. Him playing in a band and, you know, when it comes time to introduce all the band members and they're like, and on the drums, we got scout, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It just, it'll be outstanding. Yeah, I don't know. I told him, I said, you know, the, the drummer just don't get a whole lot of recognition. It's the guy out there on the lead guitar and all. But anyway, he's, he's, I think I'm looking forward to what he accomplishes with his, with his musical abilities. Absolutely. And you never know. He might, yeah. He might switch instruments at some point. You never know. You never know. So, um, anyway. Yeah, I wanna say this, you know, uh, uh, add to some of the traits of Scout, some of the things I learned. He loves candy and he was constantly sharing candy with me again during this hunt. And he left me some. Uh, wrapped candy and I gotta say it was some kind of jello candy or something. It was delicious. So when you come back, you tell Scout to be sure to bring a big bag of that candy when he comes with it next time. And, and I wanna say, you know, Scout's heart is really a big old heart and you can tell that he has the Holy Spirit in him and he really loves Jesus Christ. And, and he, he's such a good kid, very intelligent. Uh. He really loves his grandpa Red bone and his grandpa loves him. And what we're gonna do here, we're gonna go do a break here pretty quick. We're gonna talk about what made this hunt successful. Then we're gonna get a little more defined. And explain how we made this hunt successful. We're gonna go to a break. We come back, we're gonna talk about scouts. Successful Missouri Youth Hunt with his grandpa Richard Kraft. Don't go away. We'll be back with more right after this. Right here, right now. This is Chancey Walters listening to American Roots Outdoors with. Alex Rutledge, the Ozark herd Bull. Remember when a hunter was measured by how well he shot? Not how much he spent. When memories were measured in rooster Tails, not dollar bills. We do. We are spanned out. Reliable, easy to operate, extremely balanced, premium firearms offered at a price that proves you still know the true measure of a hunter. Stand down, making the American hunting tradition available to us. So Eagle Seed presents. The Hunt Breakdown – Strategy & Setup Welcome back to American Roots Outdoors. Again, I'm calling via phone from my lodge, my cabin. Again, our special guest is Mr. Richard Kraft, the owner of Gel Co Outdoors, uh, red Bones on the keyboards, the soundboard, and, uh, we're calling in and he just shared how he was successful with the hunt. Uh, and I think the things that we need to share with our listeners is how we made this hunt successful other than just sitting down and calling to a Turkey. Uh, I went in there many days ahead of time and I had a wiser camera running in there, which told us the turkeys was in there. Then I would go over there many mornings and listen to these turkeys. Uh, actually went in there two or three days ahead of time every morning, and the morning before that the hunt. Actually, two days before that, the Turkish was off the property. So what I did on the other landowners, I, uh, called the turkeys and got 'em to Galvin to me and drug them back into the property and on evening time, which made them look for the hens. That's what brought the turkeys back into the property. Now, what also. Makes the HU successful is we roosted the bird the evening before they come in on a Friday. We went over to this property and we roosted the birds. We called no answer with a Turkey call Al Hood it. No call. No call. No response to our call. Uh, no answer to a crow call. What made him gobble? Richard Cote Cote call. Yep. I took my. American Roots Gulf frame. It held like a coyote and got 'em to goblin and they gobbled and we knew where they roosted. So our plan of attack the next morning with Richard and I Stout, we sit down and discussed it, looked at their OnX. I said we're gonna walk all the way down the end of this ridge. We're gonna circle down and go down the end of the ridge, walk down into a bottom to a big pine grove thicket, and they're gonna be roosted in a small food plot down there on on, on a novel woods down there. We're gonna be within 150 yards of 'em when we set up on 'em on the roost. So we get in there, no blinds. Uh, they're sitting in their chairs. I got 'em facing. I set up a, a Ian X and decoy in the road facing towards them about 20 yards. And it's not even daylight yet. We're in there at five 40, probably 5 45. And what happens at 6 0 1 when it's still dark? Richard? Uh, he gobbled for the first time and you said he'd been starting about six 15. So he, he got an early start Saturday morning, but yeah, so he gobbled and what we did, Richard, we never made a call, did we? We just sat there and listened and we could see birds flying down through the open area, down that logging road through the punch. And we heard his calling behind us, his beside us. And he is with that gobbler. So when you get in a situation like this, you gotta do what the hens are doing. So that's what we did. We called to the bird after the hens started calling. They're on the ground. The Jakes fly down. We didn't know they was Jakes at the time. They fly down and go to the Gober and they push him away. Then we call him back towards us two different times, probably within 80 yards of us. Then he'd turn and go leave, wouldn't he, Richard? He was still hung up with that mehin. So, uh, and that happens a lot. So he just gotta re revamp. Re regroup, which what we did, that's what we did. So the big ridge, we went down and after we're sitting there calling and he comes to us one time, all of a sudden I see fans coming up over the hill. Towards that open food plot ahead of these guys that seven Jakes come up there, strutting red bone to the decoy. Oh my seven. Wow. Seven Jakes, we got awesome footage and I, I gotta commenced out. He didn't shoot 'em, he didn't wanna shoot a Jake. He let 'em all walk off. They wasn't scared. The gobbler we is after gobbles going away and he goes back up on the ridge because we started. So we back out, walk around, we get up on top of the ridge at the end of the ridge and I said they'd love to travel this road the, on this hillside somewhere. We'll sit right here a minute. We didn't car or nothing. We just listened for about 20, 25 minutes. Nothing gobbling everything. Shut down. I jerked out old loud mouth tube called didn't I, Richard? And uh, I hit it. Turkeys gobbled down in that food plot past the pine Grove where we initially started. And Richard, you actually thought it was the same Turkey, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah, it sounded, sounded like it to me. Yeah. Well, anyway, I told Richard and Stout, I said, guy, our turkeys on his hillside. That ain't him in that bottle. I think it's the other turkeys coming to him. And, uh. We're sitting there and sitting there and, and they kept gobbing harder and harder, and they seemed like they got a little bit closer and all of a sudden a a, a louder gobble gobbled between us and them. And I said, we need to move down this ridge about 150 yard. Richard, you agree? And he goes, yes. And we get down there and set up in front of a cedar tree and set the decoy out on a little food plot opening on the side of that ridge. And Richard was running a little Margaret slate and I'm gonna let you take it over from there, Richard, because you finished him pretty much talk about it. The Final Call – Closing the Deal Yeah, he was, he was hammering it down at the bottom at the tube call and I actually turned around 'cause I was just going to. I tell Scott what to do and it's working with him. And I turned around and said, Alex, pull out your slate and let's, let's pur on it and soft call. Yeah. And Alex just pitched me the slate and the striker and said, here, you get it. And so I just started soft calling and it just drove me nuts. And he just kept, every time I'd hit it, it was, he was cutting the distance. And, uh, in a little bit we finally saw the tip of his tail and, and the. Three or four inches of his head. And, uh, you know, like I said earlier in the other segment, you know, we had to wait till he cleared that pine tree and finally gave, gave Scout a enough of his head where he could get a shot at him. And, uh, and it all worked out and everybody was happy. So yeah. Sounds like a great thought. What an awesome story. Red Bone. Yeah, it really is a great, great story, especially for his first kill and, and to kill that with his grandpa. Bringing that bird in, that's gonna be a memory he will never forget. Well, he's been on, uh, this is probably his, I don't know if it's fifth, sixth bird, but, but this one was definitely one where, uh, the anticipation of a bird coming up out of a holler and up the side of a hill to you, uh, you, the, the goggles are getting louder and then you start hearing him spitting and drumming. Uh, you know, I've always said, if that don't ring your bell, your clapper's broke. So. And, uh, that's good stuff. So, yeah, I mean, it, it's still just. Gets me all fired up and, and, uh, I'm 64 years old, but it still trips my trigger every time I, I hear a bird doing that. And, uh, and that's what I enjoy is taking these grandkids and, uh, trying to show them around in the woods and, and see nature and, and, uh, just to enjoy it, you know? Yeah. And Alex, it seems to me like this is a hunt where Scout probably learned a lot. About Turkey hunt, and he did it without a blind. He did it without a blind and a tripod, and he's learning to become a little man. Yep. And, uh, I, I can't tell you the feeling. Well, I tried to tell you the feeling that I have. 'cause I made me reflect back to me being taught as a young boy and finding myself what I could really do. Yep. I think it's really gonna make Scout a superior Turkey hunter in the near future. Richard. With that being said, we're gonna go to a break. We come back with segment four. We're gonna talk about the meaning. Of a grandfather and grandson relationship, don't go away. We'll be back with more right after this. Hi everybody. This is Aaron Tippen and you're listening to my old buddy Alex Rutledge with American Roots Outdoors. What the, Hey everybody. Alex Ledge. I'm excited to tell you about 12. 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So that's, that's what we love about doing shows like this is, and then of course, the, uh, the bond that it continues to build for. And his grandpa. I mean, that's what the real important part of this whole story is. It's the first thing I wanna say, and thank you for those, those words. Red bone. It's truth is I want to commend Richard for being a great example to many of our listeners. Absolutely. Of how he takes out of his time to spend time with his grandson and to show his grandson the love that he has for him. By sharing that, that God's great creation. Uh, thank you Richard, for doing that. But Richard, let me ask you, what does it mean to you and explain to the listeners and let it hit their heart and their soul, what it means to take away from you hunting, to take him hunting, and what does it mean to you and what should it mean to others? Well, you know, uh. My grandfather passed away when I was, uh, 14 years old, and he took me fishing. He, he wasn't a hunter, so I, my father, uh, if it had a ball, we played it, but he, my dad didn't hunt or fish. And, uh, so I kind of got into it at later on in, in my life. And, uh. But some of my best remembrances are, are with my grandfather copy fishing over on Tin Killer. And, uh, so I raised two daughters. Now I've got three grandsons and, and my goal is to be an influence on them and teach them how to be good young men and to learn how to hunt and fish and enjoy the outdoors and stay off of these video games and, and. And, and see what God has put out here for us to enjoy and, and, and to get involved in it. And, uh, learn life lessons out there. You know, I've been on hunts where it didn't pan out and the something happens at the last minute and the gobbler gets boogered up and, but you know, it was still a great day 'cause you made him gobble. He played the game and, you know. The ultimate is, yeah, to harvest the bird. But you know, once you harvest that bird, you're never gonna hear him gobble again. So, um, so I'm just trying to teach that to these boys and, uh, uh, it gives me time with them away from TV and computers and, and all that, and they, you know, you got their undivided attention and, uh. They pick up on, on, on this real quick and, uh, scouts learned a lot already. Uh, he was talking about it when we were driving back down into Arkansas and tried to get on a bird down there and it didn't work out down there on youth weekend. And I said, Hey, that's just part of, that's just part of hunting it. Uh, that's why it's called hun. It's not called Gillen. So, uh. It, it, it's, uh, it's just real important for, for a grandparent if they get the opportunity to spend that time with those kids. And, uh, you know, parents are busy trying to, uh, make a living and provide for their kids. And sometimes they don't have time to go do that with the, with the kids. And, uh, a grandparent, you know, you're, you, you, if you're blessed enough to have the time, spend it with 'em, uh, you, you won't waste a minute. Uh. Anything you do with 'em? Yeah, I would agree. Red bone, I would agree. And, and, uh, just a quick story, and this doesn't have to do with hunting, but, uh, my oldest granddaughter, Kinley is now 16. And, uh, when she was little, they would come to the house and I would put her in my truck and I, she'd say, where we going, Pappy? I'd say We're going rock hunting. Uh, because I was, I was saving up rocks to build a rock garden and we just drive the gravel road. We see a big rock that, you know, been pulled up when the graders went by or whatever. We stopped, get out, put it in the truck. Well, the other day we shared some pictures. You may have saw 'em, Alex, where I cut some brush out from around the rock garden. And now I've gotta have more rocks. Mm-hmm. And she saw that picture and she sent me a message, says, are we gonna need to go rock hunting again? So sometimes you don't realize that these little things that you're just doing, they mean a lot to 'em. And they remember those things and, and I would anticipate my youngest granddaughter credence is nine. We took her to the wildlife, the uh, uh, wildlife Museum up at Bass Pro Shop. We went through that a couple weekends ago, and I guarantee you that years from now she's gonna say, pap. Remember we went to the Wildlife Museum and saw that big tall polar bear or went in the aquarium and saw the sharks and petted the stingrays and all that stuff and, and you're right, Richard. You've gotta do things with your grandkids and create those memories. And if you think they're not gonna remember it, you're wrong because they will. I agree. I think concluded here and we'll wrap it up here for the radio part of the show. We got a bonus segment coming up. Only way you can listen to it if you're a podcast listener. We're gonna talk about recipes and talk about Richard's family and his store. Uh, but I wanna wrap it up with this. I think what I've captured from the soul hunt. I love taking people, especially youth and senior citizens and people that, excuse me, appreciate the hunt, God's creation. I think what we've seen is just a bond that just grew even stronger between a grandfather and a grandson. Red bone. Yeah, I would agree. That's what I meant earlier. You know, there's continuing to build that bond and we also seen a young 11-year-old boy step into manhood. Of learning that he can endure something that he didn't think he could do. He carried that Turkey about a quarter of a mile out of that, off the side of that ridge back to the truck. I'm very proud of Scout Richard. I wanna thank you again for letting me take your grandson and you, and I'm looking forward to more trips and we're gonna wrap up the show here. 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To ensure consistency and quality ammunition engineered to perform flawlessly, simply put the best. Hor ammunition. Find Horty ammunition at a retailer. Dear you and at horty com span arms presents. Podcast Bonus – Recipes & Gelco Outdoors Welcome back to American Roots Outdoors. This is our podcast bonus segment. Again, our special guest is Richard Kraft of Jeko Outdoors. We just talked about his successful youth out with his 11-year-old grandson and, uh, Richard Red Bone texted me a picture the next evening after they got home with their Turkey and stuff, and he was fixing croppy, oh, mushrooms and Turkey breast. Oh man. So Richard, tell us how you prepare your Turkey, or how do you like to cook it? Well, I like to trim it up and cut it in strips and, uh, some then a little smaller piece of, I always call 'em Turkey nuggets, but uh, I soak it in a little milk and then I've got this COIs brand of, uh, breading seasoning. And, uh, dip it in that. And then, uh, get the old cast iron out and put a little olive oil in there and then cook it real slow and put the lid on there and keep all that moisture in there. And then, uh, we make some, uh, quiet. Gravy. And uh, and then we, uh, we were cooking the croppy up buddy at church. When we got back Sunday said, uh, uh, I guess we're gonna have a Turkey Friday night, aren't we? And I said, uh, well, we could. And he said, well, I got two bags of crape yesterday. And I said, well, you, I'll come by and get you croppy and uh, yeah, come over about six tonight and we'll have a feast. So I fried up a bunch of crappy and, uh, we had the Turkey and. New potatoes and it was all, was just real good. So, uh, everybody enjoyed it. That sounds awfully good. And Alex Yeah, the fact that they did that reminds me, uh, a couple of days ago I was at a Thayer baseball game and the softball coach was there and I was talking to him, uh, coach Denny Young. And uh, he was telling me that over the weekend he went fishing on the lake. They've got there on their farm and he caught a bunch of crap and they cooked him up. And I said, well, my phone never did ring. And, uh, he said, I'll wait until the trifecta. And I said, the trifecta? He said, yeah, the trifecta. When we get to Croppy, we get to Turkey and we get some more else. And, uh, that's, that's kind of sounds like what Richard and his friends did. And we, we call that the trifecta of the outdoors when you got Turkey fish and morrell mushrooms. Yep. That, that is awesome, isn't it, Richard? It is. It don't get much better than that for sure. No. So, Richard, what is your favorite seasoning to cook with? I know you sell the seasonings at Yoko Outdoors and some of the ingredient that you cook with, and you sell cookers and all kinds of stuff down there. Uh, tell us about your store, how big it is. Um, well, the building's about 20,000 square feet. The showroom's, 12,500. Um, we're here in Portsmouth, Arkansas. We've been in business since 1983. Um, I tell you one of my go-tos though, uh, it's cavenders, it's made in, um, uh, Harrison Arkansas's, a really good seasoning. Mm-hmm. And then, uh. That, that's one I use quite a bit of the time. And then, uh, uh, you know, salt, pepper, and garlic's. Hard to beat on anything. Yeah, exactly. So it's, yeah. Alex, have you tried the kinders, uh, salt, pepper and garlic seasoning? Yep. I used, I have not. Yep. Yeah, the kinders, it has kind of taken over and, and it, they've got a base and then they've got, you know, some other flavors too. But I keep the base since the first time I used it and it's a salt, pepper, and garlic mix, and man, you just, you just put that on a piece of meat and put that on the grill and cook it or put it in the smoker or whatever. It's good to go. I mean, it's really good stuff. Yeah, I, I wanna say that, uh, how many of y'all like Chick-fil-A? You do Red Bone? I know you do. And so do you, Richard and our listeners, did you know one of the ingredients that they do at Chick-fil-A? That's what I was told, is that they marinate a lot of their chicken breasts, chicken strips and pickle juice, which gives it that good flavor. So this year I'm gonna try taking some Turkey breast and soak 'em in pickle juice overnight. Then I'm gonna grill 'em or deep fry them or skillet fry them in butter and flour and seasonings and see how it goes. I can't wait to try that. Well, lemme know how it turns out. Gimme call so I can get up there. Oh, I'll, I'll see you in Ohio for sure. We're gonna do the hunt in Ohio. You and, uh, one of your buddies. I can't remember who's coming with you, but, uh, Russell, we're gonna have a good time out there. All right, we're gonna wrap up. How can people learn more about Gel Co Outdoors? Uh, you can go to our website, www dot gel co outdoors, G-E-L-L-C-O outdoors.com. And you can order anything you need on this website, guys. 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