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And don't worry,"},{"speaker":"Steve Roe","startTime":2071.686,"endTime":2074.736,"body":"you can hear your message back"},{"speaker":"Steve Roe","startTime":2074.785,"endTime":2077.738,"body":"and rerecord it if you don't"},{"speaker":"Steve Roe","startTime":2074.785,"endTime":2077.738,"body":"like it before sending it to us."},{"speaker":"Steve Roe","startTime":2077.787,"endTime":2080.934,"body":"Messages can be up to 90 seconds"},{"speaker":"Steve Roe","startTime":2077.787,"endTime":2080.934,"body":"long. We can't wait to hear from"},{"speaker":"Steve Roe","startTime":2080.982,"endTime":2083.887,"body":"you. And we'll be back in two"},{"speaker":"Steve Roe","startTime":2080.982,"endTime":2083.887,"body":"weeks time with the Sussex bat"},{"speaker":"Steve Roe","startTime":2083.936,"endTime":2085.05,"body":"group. So see you then."}]}