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Thank you for joining us"},{"speaker":"Dave Leake","startTime":3798.78,"endTime":3802.52,"body":"again. Yeah, looking forward to"},{"speaker":"Dave Leake","startTime":3802.52,"endTime":3804.56,"body":"having you the next time if"},{"speaker":"Dave Leake","startTime":3802.52,"endTime":3804.56,"body":"you'd like to help us out."},{"speaker":"Dave Leake","startTime":3804.56,"endTime":3806.84,"body":"There's a number of ways that"},{"speaker":"Dave Leake","startTime":3804.56,"endTime":3806.84,"body":"you can do this that I'll just"},{"speaker":"Dave Leake","startTime":3806.84,"endTime":3809.18,"body":"throw out there again. 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