Back on track, Cinema Cemetery ventures into Cimarron country! The Oklahoma lands have been opened for settling and its mad rush to stake one’s claim. This film tells the tale of Yancey Cravat and his wife Sabra as they leave their comfortable Kansas lives to live on the frontier. This film follows this family from the initial land rush of 1889 as the town grows from a single street to a “modern” metropolis in 1929. Does the film hold up nearly a century later? Find out on this episode of Cinema Cemetery.
Music by Chaz Hearne
Current Rankings:
5. Lawerence of Arabia
25. All Quiet on the Western Front
70- Wings
91- The Broadway Melody
Back on track, Cinema Cemetery ventures into Cimarron country! The Oklahoma lands have been opened for settling and its mad rush to stake one’s claim. This film tells the tale of Yancey Cravat and his wife Sabra as they leave their comfortable Kansas lives to live on the frontier. This film follows this family from the initial land rush of 1889 as the town grows from a single street to a “modern” metropolis in 1929. Does the film hold up nearly a century later? Find out on this episode of Cinema Cemetery.
Music by Chaz Hearne
Current Rankings:
5. Lawerence of Arabia
25. All Quiet on the Western Front
70- Wings
91- The Broadway Melody
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way and we're back with Episode five of Cinemas Cemetery and we're back in time. Today. We went back to our original lineup with 1930 one's Best picture Cinnamon
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simmer on Sim Synonym man. Eminem?
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Yes, Sim Iran. The That's what it is similar on. So Okay, honey, just what we, uh what are we talking about here?
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So simmer on which I found out after also they redid in 1960. Ah, Sim. Iran is one of the first instances of place being a character. And it follows the Oklahoma settlers in the 18 eighties and just focuses on one specific town and o sage and just kind of shows the development of O Sage over a period of what, 50 60 years? 40 years? 40 years? Um, my bad time is relative.
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No, it might have been longer, but this was made in 1931. Probably made 1930 and it starts in 18. 89. When the town is found. There only are 40 years they could deal with.
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So it follows O sage through that time, focusing on specifically one character, Yancey Cravat Pot and his wife, Sabra. Sabra. Say Brooke. But I was calling herself right, Um, and then the cast of characters and O Sage.
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Yeah, and, uh, even though it does bounce around a bit, it's almost a film in two very distinct acts. The first half is development. It's almost It's almost like a Western, if anything else. And then the second half, we started to get these time jumps. So if you haven't seen it, it begins with Yancy Out's going to claim his land. He's unsuccessful in getting what he wants. He goes back and brings his wife, Sabra, Sabra and his sun Sim
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Zimmer on Simmer On For What's the Movie?
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They moved to O Sage. Yancey becomes the newspaper editor, and we'll talk about a few other things he does on. Then about halfway through, Yancey is off again, and he keeps returning and leaving over the next 30 some years, and we see it go from a Western town all the way to modern city.
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Before we before we kind of jump into anything. I think we should define the word sim Iran because they do that forest in the movie, right? So the origin of Sim Iran is an American Spanish si Marone, which would be in wild, unruly, probably referring to like wild sheep. Um, is what's coming up originally, but just a wild, unruly, unsettled kind of that that that yearning for adventure, that peace inside of you, that's always kind of moving forward to the unknown. And Yancey Cravat, the lead guy, feels that so deeply in his soul, he named his first born that word. And I think that that pretty much sets the tone for how Yancey operates for the rest of the film.
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Not a word we hear very often. And last you see the 2004 cartoon movies spirit, uh, that that stallion moon, that horse movie.
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No spirit of stats. The spirit of the stallion's
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a call spirit of the sim. Iran.
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No, that was the subtitle. Uh, I didn't know that. I haven't seen it. Did you see that?
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It's called Spirit Stallion of the Cim Moron. Yeah, Yeah, 2002. Okay, that's the only other place I heard the word. So Kate Dan, what did she think of simmering?
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So I didn't hate it. I agree.
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This was I think we're finally through with World War for a little while.
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All the World War. I was in this movie to
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know Different war,
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Woodrow. Oh, which was a guest.
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There was World War, but they barely barely Spanish. American War was a bigger part of it. Well, we're finally out of those. We're finally out of the silent movies out of
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the first on this movie.
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Yes. There were some trenches. Um, yeah, it worked for me.
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Um, yeah, I didn't fall asleep, although that shouldn't be my barometer of things. But I do think it was two hours and 11 minutes long as a run time. And I was I was captivated through I would say just about all of it may be that 11 minutes I wasn't was captivated in, but I think the rest of it I was I was engaged about the story moved along quickly enough, I think, for an old movie, it definitely held up in certain work in certain regards. There's still stuff that could be act applicability to today. And then the rest of it is interesting to watch from today's lens.
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I couldn't tell if this movie was really good or didn't know what it was doing.
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Probably Boone
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might have been both so the first half.
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It's based on a novel, though,
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yes, but I think it's loosely based or just took some plot element. It's it's not. It's not creating the novel, but the first half. Yancey very interesting character. He almost has no character flaws at all.
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Was almost Christ like
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right, he seemed. He goes to this brand new town, which showed up six weeks ago. This is about 10 minutes into the movie. He brings his wife to this new Western town. It's Advair, every western city that you've ever seen with the main street. It's exactly that. Yeah, he seems to somehow know everybody's name immediately.
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Young. He had spent what, like one month with them, like weeks prior. But yet he is the most popular kid in town,
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right? Ah, he is a newspaper editor. He is a lawyer, and he is asked to be the preacher for their very first service.
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Yancey Cravat does it all.
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He he manages to intimidate the outlaws. He is friends with another outlaw who returns later. He is the sharpest shooter in the town.
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He shoots from the hip, they all
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shoot from the hip, and we've heard that straight shoot from the hip.
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Billy. Why doesn't run, Shoot for the hip and they play so fast and loose with their shooting in this movie, like they will try to shoot like the ear lobe off a person, which is a weird game to play. That seems like a
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weird game. I wanted to research the accuracy of the guns they were using because they were. They were, yes, they were shooting through each other's hats, like to joke around, and it worked. Joking, right? He intentionally shot the hair off the guy's temple just for fun, just to give him a warning. Yeah, I can't imagine the weapons were that
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accurate back then. That's near murder.
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I understand shooting from the hip if you're in a duel, and that's the fastest way to get the gun out and shoot. But if you're if you're joking, you know, feel like you want a Mulet bit.
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Yeah, everyone was shooting. There was not a gun fired in that movie that was not shot from the hip,
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but the movie takes place in in to have, so the first half were very much rooting for Yancy. He's a little bit obnoxious but he's sort of this typical. You know, American character seems to condone it all. He solves the problem of the townie. He kills the outlaw he preaches, and then he takes over as the newspaper editor we cut five years into the future, the town is somehow more settled. And then this is where the movie completely shifts. Yancy just checks off, abandon his family and goes to find some more land
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he got. He got a tip on a new settlement or a new plot, and they just had a baby plus Sim. And so he's like, Let's take the kids and up and move. And I think, say, Brah was like, Yo, I'm adventurous as all get out. I I left. What was it? Kentucky?
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Kansas? They were in the nut. Speak up.
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So they left. She she, like, you know, left her family and came to Oh, Sae Jin was like no problem here for the adventure. And now she's like, I got an infant and a 45 year old like we built a house. I wallpapered shit like I'm not leaving.
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They do have wallpaper. It's a big deal.
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The big deal
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and they do set this up from the beginning. He mentions in the 1st 20 minutes that he hated it in Kansas. Five years was the longest time he'd ever been in one place, so he's already kind of hinting that he's gonna leave again. But we go from really rooting for this guy to Yes, he does ask them to come with them. They say no and he says Okay and immediately jumps on a horse and rides away
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like, Okay, you don't wanna come cool Hat on the head runs up the court.
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The second half of the movie it seems to shift, and suddenly Yancey is no longer that a the main character or even a sympathetic character. He's almost the antagonist in the second half,
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and Saber becomes this steady, reliable pill I want. I want to see a pillar of strength. But she's complicated in her own right,
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except for the fact that apparently she's super racist and super sexist, which is strange. So while he's gone, yes, he comes back and he says hello. Apparently he went to this banish American war and he comes back all decorated and he says, Hey, how's it going? He takes a look at the newspaper about to be printed. He sees that his old friend Dixie Lee is about to be run out of town. Never quite say why it's hinted that she is a prostitute. Or perhaps she just has a reputation of being a loose woman.
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Yeah, it's just a reputation, but also like there's never any prove.
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I I couldn't tell if they were just using euphemisms. I'm thinking it was clear she was a prostitute. They're trying to drive her out. Yancey sees this, and his wife has been campaigning to get this woman out of town. He immediately runs to the court and takes up a position as the defense attorney
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and gets her off. I mean, it was him being gone so long. Did he have it? Did his license labs like,
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Yeah, that's true. I don't know how the bar worked in that time.
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Yeah, and like if it wasn't estate, yeah,
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but it's just it's strange because on the one hand, you're not rooting for him because he's showing up. He's intentionally not doing what his wife asks him to do. She's getting mad. She's the one that's been there on the other hand, this woman has been a sympathetic character, Dixie Lee, the entire time. It does kind of seem right that fancy sticking up for her
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once his wife do it right. Yeah, it's very yeah, it's very confusing. Another time that it comes out a couple other times. Yes, he always seems to be on the side of the underdog or on the side of justice on the side of truth and equality while simultaneously being a unstable and reliable partner person, whatever. Like. He's fine with showing up and saying This is the right thing to do. Like when he wrote that news article in favor of Native Americans and his wife also didn't want
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him. No, right, This is a public 5 10 years after the Dixie Lee incident, he stayed for a bit. Yeah, he writes this article, and then he takes off again.
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Yeah, and this time for much longer. But you know, so it's interesting that he feels fine coming in and objectively fighting for truth and goodness, but also doesn't have the wherewithal to provide that sense of stability and justice within his, you know, immediate family unit. And it's it's not like you disappears and is sending money and writing letters home. He just
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And this is what I can't understand about the movie. Is it intentionally making him a complex character and making Sabra complex character? Or was this written by three different people and filmed in parts? And they kind of realized that they had and just put it together? I I don't know, Uh, it almost just being how how early the film was made. I'm kind of leaning towards that. That that and that some of the modern criticism to it. It has some plot holes, and I mean at the end he's gone for between engaged 22 years. He leaves for 22 years. I think it's early 19 hundreds to go look for oil. The final part of the movie takes place in 1930. Everybody is super old. Sabra is probably sixties or seventies. She
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was elected to Congress, and
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yet she's still thinking fondly after Yancy and and everybody seems to speak highly of him. And I mean, he's he's literally missed his entire life. Children's childhood, Yeah, and so it just didn't seem to add up, and then and then of course you know, it's almost comical with the end. He at the very end after his wife, Saba, has been elected to Congress. They've had a reception in her honor that go outside and suddenly Look, there's been an explosion at the oil field. An old man has saved some young people with CNC. He's done it again.
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The bomb to his right, he but seemingly but did not end them entirely.
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He was totally fine. Just laying around and they go and the oh, of course it's him on the very day.
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Oh, yeah,
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All right, All the answers that What have you been doing working in the oil field? I don't know.
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But like Okay, so But that's the thing is like the way the guy describes it like he runs this, this random man like shows up because Sabra and her, you know, government people are touring the oil fields of oh stays as like a political saying like this official political visit. This guy runs up. He calls for an ambulance because there's been this explosion, and the way he describes it, old dance like grabs this bomb and hugs it to his chest. And then saves everyone from being hurt by this bomb yet So Sabra pieces together. Oh my gosh, old dance! That must be emcee, my love. So she runs to wherever he is. And seemingly he is not in a 1,000,000 scattered pieces. He's just laying there with a dirty face.
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No. Well, maybe it was like a grenade,
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okay? And she's still able to have, like, a final convo with him. And he's able to like, you know, wax poetic about how wonderful she is, but like what is happening here
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and she misses up her dress that she liked, gets it all money. And she's supposed to go to Congress the next
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day, right? Like it's not like there's, like, machine washers. Or maybe there is, but still anyone beside the point. I'm saying, like, that's a major plot hole for me, but I was like, How is he an see ableto have this, like, beautiful last convo when he should have been scattered into a 1,000,000
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Parts of the movie are silly, and that is one of them. Uh, so, yeah, I think that describes the plot and, uh, general overview. Let's take a look at some of the other characters we missed, though, because this movie not perfect,
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no
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and definitely problematic
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wait to me before we go into the other characters coming like Stop. Who was your favorite care?
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My favorite character. Mm, it's a good question. I
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don't know.
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I mean, you kind of have to, I guess, my favorite character not counting dance, because, of course, he and sees a favorite character. Ah,
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at least I think
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you've got to go with the publisher. He for some reason, he's got this almost comical stutter at the beginning, and he's just this normal guy. He wants to be a newspaper publisher. He joins up with the answer or the printer. Rather, he runs the machines.
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Does that Lou half fare?
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Maybe. And I don't really remember his name. I just think he's just He's just there the whole time. He has the stutter at the beginning. He's works for the newspaper for forward for 40 years. He's there with the Sabra when Yancy is in and out, and by the end he somehow lost his stutter and he's
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there's like, solid, just
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as it's been a solid working guy throughout throughout the whole town's history. So He was interesting little surprise him and this Jewish character as well. Who sort of showed
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all Levi, right. So it was gonna be my I
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think both of you gonna talk a little about him.
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Well, my two was between Saw Levi and and Miss Tracy. Why it? As played by Edna May Oliver, right. The lake's duty think
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Carol Burnett look like
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and like she was, uses the funny, snooty rich like you have wallpaper. Oh, my like And then, like, sneaks out to go buy her own wallpaper. She was She was just a funny foil. Um, so Levi is my favorite because he is that late, classic loyal friend, Zoned, pining, hopeful. That's just very lake, lightly pining. But, you know, an astute eyes like obviously this guy's deeply in love with, say, brah. Otherwise he wouldn't have, like, stuck around this long. Um, he also gives what I think is the best line of the movie. We're like, I don't know the him and saber talking and like, they're going through some like a town crisis or whatever. And, you know, he's like, Well, maybe one day we'll look back on all this and laugh And she's like, Do you really think so? Saw him? He was like, Oh, maybe not too hard or like to laugh. That's like he's got his dry wit. I'm here for soul. Yeah, yeah, But then
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there's some weird characters, Um, Native Americans and this is, Ah, actually addressed in the film. Native Americans were mistreated at the beginning. Many characters called them filthy Indians throughout the movie. But then, the whole plot of the film is justice for the Native Americans. Yancey writes a letter in favor of their citizenship. There's a sleazy politician that wants to steal the Native Americans. Oil, money and seat goes around that, and by the end, all the characters have pretty much acknowledged that you're right, you know, we should treat them with respect. To sell. Problematic at the beginning seems to be solved with the Of course. We know it's not that simple. When you're looking back now does have that whitewash element that Oh yeah, we solve the problems that we created Good for us.
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We're nice people. But then are you talking about the most problematic?
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There's Isaiah and
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Dan can't even think this space is just great.
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Well, I I was so shocked. I had seen this movie 10 years ago. I completely forgot about Isaiah. But you I So the movies set in 18 89 to start, and it ends in 1930. So even at the beginning 18 90 25 years after the Civil War has ended in Kansas, which is was Kansas in Northern State? It was right now
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it's on the border. But I think it was a free state,
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I think so. You got something? Got this character. He's this little kid. He's got hair black. He's yes, yes, he doesn't even have a last name. He's just Isaiah that that it opens with him. He's up on the chandelier with a big giant fan, and he's fanning the rich people while dinner while they're eating dinner. He talks in What's the accent?
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I mean, it's I would I would classify Isaiah as the quintessential dirty, uneducated black servant boy. I don't know it like I would even
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say Servant, he's clearly a slave. He gets yelled, kicked around. He asks to come with it. He sneaks on the on the trip in the rug, he
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and offers just to be like an indentured servant like he has. No, he doesn't want to be paid. He just wants a dance. Ito let him stay in Oh, in Oklahoma,
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Right? There's There's a scene where he decides that he's gonna go to church to when he puts on this thrift store suit that doesn't fit it all in the whole town, Laughs Adam and Yancey says, Don't worry. We'll get you your own suit. You know, someday also don't come to church with us. Go back home and guard, guard the newspaper and the answer. I say It's all right.
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Ran sees league Gan see things of himself and in the movie, he's the nicest person to Isaiah. Like nobody else is nicer to Isaiah. Vin Yancey, like Yancey, makes it seem like he's giving this idiot child this great gift to go protect the house while the family goes to church. And then they chuckle like Uh huh, why would I say I want to go to church? And then you
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watch the movie and it's like it's It's like a minstrel show, right? He's this this joke character, and there's no reason he gets shot halfway through,
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trying to protect them
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right, which I get, you know, that was it was a noble part of his character. He's definitely, I think, meant to be a positive character. But it's clear that this is just how the how the directors and producers decided tow to portray a black character, right? And there was nothing. I bet you got the sense they weren't making any statement with this. They they weren't trying to show how far we've come. They weren't trying to show No, it was just that they were probably proud of themselves for having a nice included on African American character, and and he was funny.
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And while he was funny and I would I would say, even like he had this noble cause, right, And that was to serve the robot family even when Donna was born or whatever like he was in charge of, like just making sure everything was okay and like taking gifts and putting them away and stuff like that and keeping things nice and clean. His goal in life was to serve the crowbar family up until his death, where he was serving the curve at family protecting sin, so lay or attempting to protects him, but badly. It wasn't even like it was like he was jumping in front of a bullet for sin. It was He got shot by a stray bullet being an idiot, running out in front of gunfire.
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Oh, yeah. And all of the shooting scene, sir, are comical.
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Yeah, so, like, yeah, I agree. It was it was bad. And I think looking at it from from this lens, right, it's what the heck
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you want you watching Gone with the wind type movie and there's definitely some stereotypes, but it's set during the Civil War, and it's taking its its 50 years later and this really, really no justification. So, yeah, that was it was it was basic. It was funny and hell held terrible, all right. And so let's talk about influences. So we talked a little bit about the characters, but you don't really hear about the movie Sim Iran, but actually watched it. We did notice that there was a lot of familiarity. The things that we've seen later,
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I would say the opening scene because me and your wife both were like, Oh, this is like the open, like one of the biggest scenes in the movie Firing Away with Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise is the opening of all. The settlers are in Oklahoma kind at the border. And if anyone's familiar with this, you know all of the settlements are sectioned off already, and everyone's lined up with their horses and their carriages, or even on foot. And once the gun is blown, you are to charge the area as a cz Muchas. You can tow to lay your flag in your settlement. So just showing what happened in Oklahoma and as the country is being developed. So that scene in general, a couple of things about one. It's reused again in another movie. But to, um, we were remarking on how impressive it was to film it at that time because there was no CG I. So all the horses were real. All the buggies were real and just showing how dangerous it was to film that because anyone could get toppled,
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right? And I I looked it up. They bought, like, 90 acres or something of land in orderto to film this thing. They bought land film, right, right, and even that and going forward. Even the Western town the remains street. Then for the first half of the movie, all sets. I mean, they constructed almost all of that, and I read that they used that as the main street in dozens of RKO Westerns after that. So that was direct. I didn't even consider this movie of Western when I saw it, but I guess it is on. And it was the first best picture to win Western to win best picture and also the last one to win until 1990 with dances with wolves.
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That's a Western.
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Yeah, dancing sort of. And even after dances with wolves, you had Unforgiven and I think 92 then I guess you could say no country for old men. But not a lot of Westerns have actually won. So this was Early Western and you had all the early Western tropes. You had the the outlawing, riding into town, shooting up the bank. You had the hero in the white hat. You had the outlaw the at the bar s. So I think you see
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that like the bar casino combo.
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But also, this movie almost reminded me of a movie like back to the future, where you see a town
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all I could think of. And I didn't want to say that like a thing
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of the future. Three. Well, sure, you get back to the future. Three in the actual western town. But then just the idea of seeing the same place in three or four different time periods you had the future. Basically, the end is the modern city. You had the developed town, he had the early town. And so you have to wonder if some of those concepts were taken from this film.
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Yeah, I would agree on. And it's not just back to the future, although that's all I could think of to, um But I think that idea of one place being a character and then having that character developed throughout a period of time, I think has been used in countless other films. And I wonder if this was the film that inspired that it could be it could not met.
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I was curious, and I couldn't find anything on this how accurate this is. I don't think these were real people. I'm curious of O sage actually developed. It was That's the other thing. You could only make this movie in 1930 thinking of a 40 year period of time in which so much changed and that was just great. I mean, I think about the past 40 years we've been alive for 32 of them. Lots of technological changes, lots of chan. But on the other hand, not a lot. I I look at my street I grew up on, you know, looks relatively exactly the same. Yeah, there's some people got new sighting, but it's not like we went from, uh, a big field to downtown Pittsburgh. And that's essentially what happened in this movie.
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Yeah, The other thing that you kept pointing out was it came out in 1931 right? And you know, the movie took started 40 years prior. And for people watching this, this was their childhood. The 18 eighties could have been their childhood. Um, and so for us, that would be the infamous watching something about the seventies, and immediately we were like mind hunter. But when you're watching something like that, there's, you know, period differences in terms of style of clothing and access to technology. But again, it's not so drastic that were like Wow, I could not nearly imagine that life. Where's for 18? 80? My God,
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Yeah, this movie goes from the Wild West to right before the Great Depression in one film, and it seems like it's 100 years that it transferred. But it's but it's only 40. And so, yeah, I don't know when else there's been that much advancement, so interesting
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revolution.
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So where do you think we rank this? I was looking at some reviews. It turns out this film was a big deal back then. Everybody loved it, got rave reviews and, as we mentioned, has an age very well. It's probably the quintessential, badly aging overtime. I kind of liked it more than some of the others that we saw, but we can see where the change came from. It's not like a movie worth wings, which is really hard to watch now, But you really have to view it in its time period,
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and you can wings I can appreciate is your You're, like, all right. If I was in 1928 I would think this was spectacular. This I don't know, but I don't know. I would say I would put it in Because Because this is the first time you're seeing the elements of character is a place being utilized successfully because there were other shot and some of the shots. Really impressive. Um, the accidental, complex ness of the characters. Oh, I want to put it. Maybe it, like, 50 50. Okay, what do you thinking? Well, I
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might have to disagree that high just because again, I've seen most of these and you've seen not as many, but I know there's lots and lots of movies that are better than this. Um oh, that's the other thing. Like, I didn't hate this movie. I might put it closer to 65 like I liked it more than wings. But I know that as we go through the list, there's gonna be a whole bunch that beat it. Okay, Um, also I'm giving it. I I think this is a novelty. I like how unique it waas. And that's why I'm ignoring some of the silly aspects of it. So yeah, 50. We'll say we'll say 60 for now, huh? And weaken again. Some of these are gonna get moved around. So far, we've seen five films and we have anywhere from the top five all the way down to last with Broadway Melody at 91. I'm curious what our finalist will look like. All right, Any final thoughts on simmering in seven Sima nim Se ma she moron Kye Mira,
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I can't say some moron Little feeling. Zimmer. Awesome. Iran. It sounds much more like, I don't know, like a 2001 Space Odyssey type of word or like, but it's not like doesn't make you wow, some on you. Just It's a It's a bit more like frivolous than the words sound.
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And in a couple in a couple episodes were gonna cavalcade too long. And that's another movie that takes place over a period of time. Okay, that's the one I haven't seen. It will take a look. Well, next time we're gonna be taking a look at 1932 Grand Hotel, Finally going down to a smaller scale for these films and we're gonna meet on may be an actor. We've heard of Credit Garbo. So far, I don't think I've known anybody so
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for firing done. You've never heard of Irene Dunne?
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No motion,
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many things. Well, she was a big deal a B f d. Okay.
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The name sounds familiar, but I can't place Aaron. It's
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like you don't even care about Irene Dunne.
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Nope. Anyway, Grand Hotel coming up next.
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I'm excited about Grand Hotel.
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They say the Grand Hotel always the same. Nothing ever changes Go. We'll find out. Thanks for joining us on Cinema Cemetery. I'm Dan and we'll see you next time. Wait.