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#150 - College Lingo: Can You Talk the Talk? Part 5

• Vicki Nelson, Lynn Abrahams, Elizabeth Hamblet

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So many mysterious terms and acronyms to understand when your student heads off to college! You’ll understand how college works better when you understand the strange terms they use. In our fifth installment of our College Lingo series, Vicki and Lynn define and discuss more of the insider terms that colleges use that may not always be clear to parents. In this episode we cover Accessibility Offices, Add/Drop, Sophomore Slump, Credit Hour, Resident Assistants, Post-Grad Year, Placement Exams, and Liberal Arts. If you missed Parts 1-4, with 24 additional terms, check out episodes #047, #057, #098 and #121.

If you’ve ever wished for a pocket translator for campus speak, this conversation is your map. Hit play, share it with another parent who could use the clarity, and then tell us what term still trips you up. Subscribe, leave a review, and send us the next term you want decoded.

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the College Parent Central Podcast. Whether your child is just beginning the college admission process or is already in college, this podcast is for you. You'll find food for thought and information about college and about navigating that delicate balance of guidance, involvement, and knowing when to get out of the way. Join your hosts, Vicki Nelson and Lynn Abrahams, as they share support and a celebration of the amazing experience of having a child in college.

SPEAKER_02

Welcome to the College Parent Central podcast. This is the place where we talk about just about anything that we can think of that has to do with being a student in college, being the parent of a student in college, being the parent of a student in high school who's thinking about heading to college, and being the parent of someone maybe who is about to finish college and moving on to the next step, because all of it is sometimes a really mysterious and exciting and interesting time in the life of a parent. So anything that we can do to help you figure out what it's all about, we're happy to do that. My name is Vicky Nelson, and I am here with my friend and my co-host, uh Lynn Abrahams. I am a professor of communication at a small liberal arts college, and I work with college students every single day, both in the classroom and as an academic advisor. And perhaps more importantly, I am the mother of three daughters who have all gone to college, so I have lived the whole experience. And I'm gonna let Lynn tell you who she is.

SPEAKER_01

Hi, everybody. Um, I am a learning disability specialist. I have been working with college students for my whole career, and I don't even want to say how many years that that has been. It's been a while. Um I work with students um in their families. So um I also am the mom of two sons who have been in and out and through and around college. So I come at this from two angles, um, both a professional and a parent.

SPEAKER_02

And we have some things we want to talk about today. Um, but before we start doing that, um we want to just pat ourselves on the back a little bit. Um we actually just realized as as we sat down to work that this is our 150th College Parent Central podcast. Wow. So, yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_01

I still remember that day seven years ago when you said, Lynn, would you like to think about doing a podcast with me? And I wasn't sure about it.

SPEAKER_02

I know, I I had to do a little bit of arm twisting there, and it came out of a phone conversation because I was on a walk and we were on the phone while I was walking, and I something came up and I asked you a question about some student you were working with, or the parents of some student you were working with, and um and we talked about it for half of my walk, and it was really interesting. And I thought at the time, I wish I could record this conversation. Aha, there went the light bulb. And so we started, and we have talked about so many different things uh in the last 149 episodes. Uh, and since we started, we've brought in Sarah Shane, who is a director of academic advising, and Elizabeth Hamblett, who is an expert and an author in the field of learning disabilities, uh, to be co-hosts with us. We can we kind of rotate ourselves around so that we have all these different perspectives. But we're in our seventh season. This is our 150th episode. Um, and so happy birthday to us. We didn't plan a special episode because it just sort of snuck up on us. But um, you know, I I'll list in the show notes. We we actually did do something kind of special for our 50th. Gee, we thought that was a big number at that point, uh, where we gave 50 quick tips and and hints for parents and students. That was kind of fun. I remember Lynn, you didn't think we could come up with 50. And we certainly did. We more than did. Um, and then for our hundredth, we did some reflecting on you know what what are some trends, what are things we've talked about, what are our favorite episodes, what are the most important episodes. Um, so they're kind of interesting retrospectives. Um, but this time we're just gonna move ahead and not look backwards. And we want to talk about language, we want to talk about some of the lingo and the terms. This is our fifth lingo episode. Can you talk the talk? Um, because we know how important it is. Your student comes home from college and starts throwing these terms around. Or as you're looking for a college and you're on those college visits, some of these terms get thrown around. So it helps when you understand what people are talking about. So we have a few we want to talk about. Lynn, get a little bit more. I want to start.

Accessibility Services Replaces Disability Office

SPEAKER_01

So the first term, and and I have and I want to say that our terms are not connected. They're just we're just gonna throw them out to you. We've got eight different terms that we're going to talk about. Um, but these are terms that we think are important to know, to understand as you walk into the college world. Um they might be a little different for each college. So if you have many kids, they might have a little bit of a different take on some of these terms. But the first one I'm going to talk about is in my field, which is the name of the Office for Disabilities. That name has been changing. So in many schools, it's not called that anymore. It's called the Office of Accessibility Services. Um they really um it it has been a shift for a few reasons. One is um that people want to um sort of lean away from the medical model of looking at disabilities because the word disability makes you feel like something's broken and it needs to be fixed and and that doesn't feel good for a lot of folks. Um and it also leans more towards um the laws that support students in high school and in college. In in high school, the law um the law supports students in having a successful experience. In college, the law that student that covers students um is a law of accessibility. It's the law that says that everybody gets access to the academic material or the physical environment. So there's a shift in sort of um, you know, it it's a shift in in what is happening between high school and college. Um the other thing is that I want to mention that calling it accessibility um often also opens the door to um looking at the entire campus. This isn't just about learning disabilities, this is about accessibility, meaning you it's for people who kids who break their legs. It's for kids who, you know, have a medical or a psychiatric issue. You know, they it it covers so many more students than thinking of, you know, just uh, you know, learning disabilities. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

You know, I'm gonna interrupt you because as you're mentioning that and you're talking about that, I'm thinking about a couple of students we've had at school um who were blind and um you know needed to have permission to have a guide dog with them or um just needed different different things because of um and and then there's that that sort of hidden disability of of hearing. Because if it and and we talked about this in one of my classes, you know, if you if a student is blind, you people are sort of aware of that more often. But uh hearing is a hidden disability, and what can campuses do to make to make it easier for for them.

SPEAKER_01

And that also explains um the term difference instead of disability, too. That what you're talking about are any student who has some kind of learning difference or diff difference that makes um you know negotiating the environment a little bit difficult. Right.

SPEAKER_02

So Or who needs special special permission for things in class. Um uh we were talking earlier, I have a student in class who is allowed to eat and have her phone with her in class because I have a phone policy, strict phone policy, which may be good or bad. But anyway, um, and so she's allowed because she needs to um watch sugar levels and and all of that. So um, you know, or or there have been some other students who have physical things that uh need different accommodations. So I get an accommodation letter saying you've got to allow this student to do that.

SPEAKER_01

So it's good to have your kids find that office, whatever it's called, and just know that it's there.

SPEAKER_02

And and if if it if there's a possibility that your student might need an accommodation, having them find that office early and register with that office and receive the accommodation doesn't mean they have to use it, but then they have it if they do need it and they aren't starting that process too late. Right.

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Yeah.

Add Drop And Course Shopping Explained

SPEAKER_02

So that's my first term. Okay, it's an important one. They're all important. Um, all right, so I want to go ahead then with something called ad drop. Um, you know, we we throw it around like it's one word, it's ad slash drop, uh, which is at the beginning of the semester. Um and it's sometimes it's sometimes called different things in different places. Uh a lot of schools call it ad drop. Um, some call it a course shopping period or an enrollment change period. So uh it it might have a different name, but basically it's it's usually the first week or two, occasionally three, but more often one or two, at the beginning of the semester when students can make changes to their schedule fairly easily without there being anything that goes on their transcript or any record or anything. They, you know, they attend a class, and maybe after the first class they say, Oh, I've I I didn't realize that was that's what this was about. I'm I'm going to drop this class and add a different class. So they can make these these changes. Uh some schools, uh, and this is what we do, the first week is fairly straightforward. Easy students can just go online and make a change. Um, and so as an instructor, I have to keep looking at my class list because I get new ones and some leave. Um, and then the second week it's a little more complicated. They have to get permission of an advisor and permission of the instructor. Um, because it's a little harder for students to add a class in the second or third week. No problem dropping a class, but if they're going to stay at the same number of credits, if they drop a class, they need to often need to add a class. And students need to keep in mind that if they add a class in the second or third week, um, they've missed a week or two of class. And and usually are still held responsible for whatever they've missed. So um so they think, you know, they have to think about it. Um, it's important that students understand what the policy of the school is. How long do you have after after ad drop is over, students can usually still withdraw from a class, but that's a different thing. And I think we've talked about that on one of other Lingo episodes. Um, but there usually a W goes on your transcript to show that you have withdrawn. Uh, if students don't watch the deadlines or understand what the policy is or know how the process works, then you know they they lose out. Um and they also during that ad drop period need to watch for open seats of classes. Because often what happens is gee, I really want to take this communication class, but it's full. But if they keep watching the list, somebody else who's in that class may drop it and a seat may open up that wasn't open before. So it's it's very fluid. Uh, it allows students to remedy a schedule problem if they have it, to make sure they're in the right classes, change their mind about a course or a series of courses, and just correct anything if they're in a class where they don't belong.

SPEAKER_01

And you know, I just want to add that different colleges are so different, also about this. It's so important to find out the way the college works. One of my sons went to a um a college that was very, very small, and the way they dropped an ad was they had to go to the professor, you know, and they had to plead their case. And that can be sometimes really challenging, yeah, you know, for a first-year student. Um, but it's it's really important to find out how the college works. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And some schools real they call it course shopping, and they extend to be sitting in on all kinds of things and deciding what they like best. And you know, it's just uh I I almost want to say chaos for the professors. It is, because you don't know, and then and then you, you know, gee, do how much do I want to cover because students are coming and going. Um whereas other schools really encourage students to do some real serious thinking when they create their schedule and then um you know go from there. Right. So ad drop. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

My next one is the sophomore slump. Oh, the slump. Um so some some students don't go through a sophomore slump, I just want to say. Some students sail right through. Um, but for others, um the sophomore year can be a bit of a I don't know, like a lull. Um and you know, when you look at it, uh first year students get a lot of attention because they're just transferring into a new school. Um and in fact, many colleges are give lots of attention to first-year students, but then that kind of you know decreases by the second year. Um The other thing is that you know um some of this excitement is gone, you know, that special, special feeling. Um students are in more difficult classes in their sophomore year.

SPEAKER_02

Those freshman classes often are transitional and intro, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Right. So um they there might be some more challenges academically. Students often feel pressured to start, you know, declaring a major. And that can be challenging as well.

SPEAKER_02

Um or they have declared a major and they want to change it. And now they find out that's not what they want to do.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Um and another thing I think about is that students are um they're less connected to home sometimes. You know, they're not not as connected to their friends at home because they're now in their second year of college. You know, they're they're sort of moving on. So it can be a little stressful in that way. And I think for parents, you know, our job as parents is really to be patient and to listen to our kids. Um they might have to talk a lot and about what's going on for them, and we might need to ask questions. I know I have found in many of the students that I've worked with, sophomore year seems to be the time that they start thinking about transferring.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And and what I've realized over the years is that that process is sometimes really important. It's important for students to say, to think about, to identify what is it that's going on that they want to transfer, um, what is it they'll they think they'll find somewhere else. Sometimes after going through the process of investigation, excuse me, they come back to feeling like this is my college, and they kind of recommit to where they are. Um, but this is a very common um thing to happen during the sophomore year. And so as parents, we we need to just be aware that that's part of the process. It's part of settling in to a new home.

The Sophomore Slump And Transfers

SPEAKER_02

And I think talking to your student about the fact that this might happen and anticipating it a little bit so that I I think a lot of the feelings that you've just talked about that students can feel in that sophomore year, they think they're the only ones feeling that. And so if if you can get out a little bit ahead of it and say, you know, sophomore year, maybe, and you might be thinking and you might be feeling, and that's that's common. And okay, I understand this. This is this is part of the process. Right. Right. Um so you know, we had an earlier episode, it occurs to me, um, where we talked about the middle years of college, uh which are sophomore and junior year, because so much emphasis is on that freshman year, as you just said, and also senior year, because they're busy stepping out. And then the middle years of the work, so the the years you know, when when a lot of the work gets done. So I think that was episode 49. We'll list that in the show notes. And it might be good to go back and I think we talked even more about sophomores and juniors and and all of that. All right, I'm gonna move ahead. Um, the next one I wanted to talk about is a credit hour. Um, it again, it's this one of those terms that we throw around all the time. You know, we we talk about how many credits do you have, or you you need to be registered for 12 credit hours or something like that. Um, so it's how how classes are measured in college. Um, and a credit hour is the equivalent of A one hour of class time per week. Literally. One hour. Literally. Well not actually exactly literally. Okay. Almost literally. Because for the purposes of a credit hour, 50 minutes can count as a credit hour. Okay. Which allows for time for movement between classes. I mean, sometimes kids have three hours between classes, but but a 50-minute block counts as a credit hour according to federal guidelines. And that's important. And it's important because students need a certain number of credit hours per semester to be eligible for financial federal financial aid. And usually that's 12. So you have to be in 12 credit hours. And most, most, most depends on colleges, but most classes are three credit hours, which means they meet for three hours a week. Maybe it's Monday, Wednesday, Friday for 50 minutes or an hour, or Tuesday and Thursday for an hour and 15 minutes, adds up to the same amount of time spent in the class. And the other thing that I think it's important that parents and especially students, I just just talked about this in my class yesterday, understand is that also federal guidelines is for every credit hour, so that's for every hour you spend in class, the expectation is that you spend two hours doing work outside of class. And when I say that, the color drains from the face. Because they start to do the math and they say, okay, this is a three credit class. I'm in class for three hours. I'm supposed to spend six hours, that's nine hours a week, but I'm I'm in 15 credits, and so I'm that's 45 hours a week. You know, give or take. But um that's when I say, yes, and that's why you're a full-time student. It is considered a full-time job. And I find that most students, including most of the students who struggle, who are not doing as well as they hoped, it's because they're not putting in the time. And it's important that they understand that, and parents can help them understand this, because that's the expectation that most of us work with when we design our classes. I'm spending this hour doing this with you, and now I want you to do this before next class, and that might take you a couple of hours rather than the 20 minutes you think you're going to spend doing that. So credit hours is it's in it's sort of a national thing. Most colleges measure classes in credit hours. Um, it comes from federal requirements by the Department of Education, and and it's important for financial aid. Uh it's both on the part of the student and the institution. The institution needs to guarantee that students have a certain amount of seat time, and then students need to think about how much work they're they're doing in between.

SPEAKER_01

This is a new language. I as I hear you talk, I think, you know, each one of these terms is uh is truly something that's that can be really brand new if if you haven't gone to college yourself or if you know it is something that you need to know.

SPEAKER_02

And if you don't understand the terms, you don't understand what's happening and what's expected of you. Uh and for parents, when your students come home and start brandishing these terms and throwing them around, and you you you want to kind of know what they're talking about.

Credit Hours And Workload Reality

SPEAKER_01

Right. So my next term um is out of the classroom, and it is um resident assistants RAs. RAs are really important folks. And in fact, they might be the first folks your student meets when they get on campus, when they move in. So a resident assistant is just that. They are assistants in the residence halls. They um are usually sophomores or up, so it's uh uh um old, you know, students who are more experienced. Um these are students who have usually had a lot of good training. Um, and they're they're trained to help students fit in. Um they're trained around community building in the dorms, um, how to have a you know a welcoming environment, a safe environment. They're trained about you know mental health issues, um, and they also are the folks who know the rules and the policies inside and out. So it's a great person for your student to go to with all their questions. Um they're used to they're used to working with first-year, you know, first experienced students and and answering anything. Um so sometimes these students are paid, sometimes it's a job. Um, and sometimes I know at our school it they got uh reduced um room and board room and board.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So um I have worked with students who uh it's interesting, I remember a student who who wanted to be an RA because of that, because of the cost of room and board, but then once he got involved in being an RA, it was an incredible experience. He felt like he fit in the college, he became um part of the workings of the college. Um and you know, they're mentors. These are students who are mentors to other students. And I know for me, many of my students will listen to an RA before they'll listen to me, you know, or a professor in one of their classes. So these are important folks for your students to to reach out to to get to know.

Resident Assistants As Frontline Mentors

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. And they they they really are a support because they've they've been there. Yep and they, you know, it's first hand experience. Uh and most most colleges really um really do train them. Yep. Train them well. Yeah, yeah. All right, good. Um, so I wanted to talk a little bit about a post-grad year, postgraduate year, um, which is a year after high school before college, but it's different from just a gap year. We've talked a lot about gap gap years, and we've had a couple of um a couple of podcast episodes and and at least one interview taught with uh Jay Goslin, who has a Discovery Year as his program. It's a wonderful program. Um, and so we'll link to that. But though those are gap years. A postgrad year is a very specialized thing for students who who may be on a different timeline, students who think uh, you know, another year might be good. Um it's a fifth year of high school, but not where you went to high school. You you finish high school, you graduate, you get your diploma, and then a post grad year is often at a private or an independent high school. Uh, and there are something, I I don't know, something like 150 schools in the country that have them. Um it started more in New England, and so there tend to be more in New England, but they're all over the country. Um, so it's it's uh um an independent school who has a special program for postgrad years, and students can take different classes than they've taken because they've met all of their high school requirements. They've graduated. Um so sometimes it's students who want to bolster their GPA. They want to take some classes and have a s have a stronger grade average so they can apply to a higher level or more selective college. Um, often it will be athletes who need another year of maturity physically and more experience, more playing time perhaps. And so they'll do this fifth year. Um, or some students who just need an extra year of maturity. Um but they're usually boarding programs. So not all, but a lot of them are boarding programs, which also give the students an opportunity to perhaps to live on their own and be a little bit more independent, but still a little more sheltered because it is high school to help them prepare for that independence in college. Um also maybe to go to a different part of the country. Perhaps they're thinking you know, perhaps they're from the Midwest or the West Coast and they're thinking of, they're looking at a college in New England, but they're not sure. So maybe they'll do a postgrad year at a high school in uh New England and see whether that's part of the country where they want to spend more time. Um, so it's really a transitional program, but often for very motivated, strong academic students, not students who just um aren't ready for college, but maybe maybe need something. The programs can be um can be pretty competitive sometimes. Uh so it's if you if you're thinking about it, looking at it early would make sense. Um it gives students a chance to take small smaller classes, perhaps, if they went to a big high school, um, to build relationships with faculty, which is good practice for college, um to live away from home, to live in a different part of the country, to gain confidence, and and sometimes to follow up on something they really love but didn't have an opportunity to do. So sometimes students will apply to college and then defer and do the postgrad year. Often students do that for a gap year. But they might not in this case. They might go on to a postgrad year and then they'll be in an independent high school, so they would do their college applications along with all of the seniors in that school and perhaps get more support than they might have gotten in a great big high school somewhere as they apply to colleges. So it's it's a great idea. Um, it's not for everybody, but it's just the right thing for some students.

SPEAKER_01

You know, there are so many ways of doing college, and we need to let our kids know that it's not, it doesn't have to follow the sort of that expected, you know, four years right after high school. You know, both of my kids did some unusual things while they were in college where they took some time off in the middle.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um or um, I remember for me when I went to college, I I made up a major, so I had to stay an extra semester in order to get everything in. So, you know, there are many, many ways to do it, and it depends on who your who your kids are.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um so my last term is placement exams. And it kind of fits with what you were talking about about taking that extra year. Um so when students start at a at college, many colleges will require placement exams. Not all, but I would say most colleges. I did a little looking around. Um, and usually in the subjects of math and writing, those are the two. And the purpose of these placement exams are truly to place the student into the correct class.

SPEAKER_02

They're not connected to admissions. No. They're already admitted to the college.

SPEAKER_01

It happens after they're admitted and before they register. So it's in that spot in between. Um, it's incredibly important that your student takes these exams alone. I have had students who have had siblings help them out when they do it at home. Only siblings? Maybe parents too. Um but when you think about it, you're s setting up kids for a real problem because if they're not put into the classes that they really fit into, then they won't be successful. And it's not a good way to start. Um a lot of colleges do offer um sort of prep classes if students are not quite ready for the college level, um, often in writing, that's one. Um so um so it's wonderful that they offer these classes. And if your kids need them, then they need them. And um, it'll help them be more successful in the whole long run.

Postgrad Year vs Gap Year

SPEAKER_02

And it's really important, I think, that students take them seriously, that they understand that these are important because they they've probably taken SATs or ACTs and all of that, and all of that admission stuff that they have to do, and then they got accepted. And now they're asked to do this placement exam, and they may sort of blow it off. And if they do, they I mean, you talk about the problem of somebody getting help and being placed in a level that's too high, and then they struggle, but it can work the other way too. If they blow off the exam and they just don't take it seriously, they're gonna be placed in a lower level, which has a double problem. One is they're gonna be bored stiff in a class. And secondly, they may have to take that extra class that may say, okay, you're not ready for college-level math. You have to take a developmental level, and then you'll take college-level math. And so now you've got to take two instead of one.

SPEAKER_01

Right, never mind.

SPEAKER_02

Which is paying for it's absolutely appropriate if that's the level you are, but if you don't need that, you don't want to waste that. So helping your student understand that it's important that you do these and that you take them seriously. Yep. Yeah. All right. All right, I want one more. Um, and it's it's going to be a little shorter because um we have an episode coming up just about this. But I wanted to talk a little bit about the liberal arts. And um, we are going to be doing an episode coming up shortly to unpack it a little bit more. Um, but again, it's a term we throw around a lot. Liberal arts college. This is a liberal arts college, or you have to take liberal arts or your your all college requirements in the liberal arts. Um, and and what do we mean? And we're definitely not talking about politics. It doesn't have to do with that. But but again, that term liberal is thrown around so much with politics. You know, that this came long before that. Um and and basically when we're talking about when we're talking about the liberal arts, we're talking about generally a broad, well-rounded education that helps students focus on learning how to think, um, rather than just training for a specific job. It's it's a more general critical thinking, understanding the world and how it works. It actually, uh this is the nerdy part, it actually comes from the Latin, uh, which I'm not even going to attempt to say, but um, which means the skills for a free person. These were, these were, you know, for for somebody who was a free person back in Roman times, um these were the things that you you the to help you know how to think and and work on that. So so when we talk about a liberal education uh or an education in the liberal arts, um it's it's it's an approach to learning that that that empower it really empowers students and prepares them to think critically, to deal with complexity, to understand diversity, to be able to adapt to change. Um it gives them knowledge of the wider world beyond the narrow path they may be treading in their major. Um and so generally when we're talking about the liberal arts, we're talking about humanities, which is things like literature, history, philosophy, languages, those sorts of things. Talking about social sciences, psychology, sociology, economics, political science. We're talking about the natural sciences and math, biology, chemistry, physics, statistics, algebra, all of those things. Arts, things like visual arts, performing arts, music, theater, film, everything we know as arts, and then writing and critical thinking, which kind of touches on all of those things. Those are what we call liberal arts. And at a lot of schools, we're a liberal arts college, where I teach is a liberal arts college, and so students are asked to take at least one class in each of those areas just to try it, just to and students discover sometimes a new thing they never knew they would be interested in. It might become a major or not, but just wow, I never knew that. So so that's kind of cool. And the idea is to to build those communication, critical thinking, problem solving, adaptability, all of those kinds of uh uh skills. So it's it's kind of a contrast to education that is strictly professional or technical or vocational. It's it's this broader thing.

SPEAKER_01

And you know, I just want to add that um every college is different. Yeah, so it is so important to find out um what the requirements are for wherever your kids go to school. Um some schools have a have a really complicated system of what kind of classes they need to take in addition to their major. Some schools are a little bit simpler, so you need to find out.

Placement Exams And Getting It Right

SPEAKER_02

And and understanding a little bit about why you're asked to do. I mean, I I think so often students see general education requirements or liberal arts requirements, or you know, it's called different things in a lot of different places. And even large universities might have a liberal arts school or a liberal arts component to it. Um, they see it as a checklist, right? I have to do this and this and this and this. But if they understand why and what it's adding for them, I think it's helpful. So there's a little more we could talk about, but I think we'll unpack that a little more in its very own episode coming up. So that's eight more to add to our list. Um there's a lot, a lot to know. And the more you understand, I know when I'm teaching, um And students are reading a chapter, I often say to them, um, start with the vocabulary. Make sure you underna understand the terms, and then build the ideas from there. And so I think it's it's a little bit the same. You know, learn the language, learn the terms, and you'll be surprised at how much you understand about how college works.

SPEAKER_01

And I think that if you don't know the terms, it can lead to some misunderstandings. When I think about the difference between high school and college, you know, um you you need to know the lingo. Yeah. It helps smooth the way.

SPEAKER_02

So this is our fifth can you talk the talk episode. That's pretty amazing. Uh in the show notes, we will list one, two, three, and four so you can find those and a couple of other ideas. We also have a glossary on the um on the website uh under resources. There's a glossary, and I think we're coming up on 50 terms in that. So um, you know, big ones and little ones, uh, that could be helpful too. Wow. Yeah, lots to talk about. So thanks for sticking through to the end and joining us for our 150th episode. And uh we hope this is helpful. And uh please, if you you know, if it is helpful, uh share it with a friend. Uh somebody else may need some of the same information. And don't hesitate to go back and listen to any of the other 149 episodes that you may have missed.

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