SPEAKER_01

All right, all right, all right. Welcome to the generally mediocre biotechnology podcast. My name is Andy. I'm Ryan. What's up? We're going to be talking science today. All about real science, though. Yeah, so today we're going to be talking about details. Um, and some of this is related to science, even though neither of us are scientists. Uh but we're going to be talking about why we choose the details that we do. Uh, because I think that this is really important. When you see a lot of different people doing similar movements, you'll find uh, well, first you'll you'll see that at the at the high level, at the gross level, oh, it looks like the same thing. Yeah. But then when you look at details, you see that there's really subtle things that are different. And then you start to wonder why. You know, so we want to tell you why we choose the details we do, sort of what's that's based on, why we choose details differently from other people, what some of them are, and a little bit about what makes a movement be useful for what it's being used for, rather than just trying to be the right thing, which is uh you know a mythical concept that doesn't exist. There's no there's no platonic ideal of crawling or jumping or really anything. Yeah, I was gonna yeah, yeah. Okay. So uh just I guess to to get into it, really, there's like a billion ways to do just about any movement. Some of it is preference, some of it is values. Uh, and to us at GMB, what the the latter part means is that we always return to autonomy, longevity, and fun when we're choosing which exercises to do and the right way to do them. Right. We like patterns of three. Exactly. We like threes because uh we can count them on one hand with two fingers left over to hold a beverage. That's right. All right. So quick example of sort of what we're talking about here. Uh we post videos to YouTube, Facebook, et cetera, et cetera, all the time. And almost every video we post, we get comments that are like, oh, that's downward dog, or oh, that's C Lot, or oh, that's Capoeira. Um and the thing is, it's not.

SPEAKER_00

It's not. Yeah, this is funny. It's still funny. Like everybody's like, man, how long? You know, not everyone, but sometimes we'll get people like, oh, that's just capoeira, or bad capoeira, or how long you've been doing.

SPEAKER_01

I will say, if it were capoeira, it would be bad capoeira because you've never done capoeira.

SPEAKER_00

And that's what I was just gonna say. And that's what I was just gonna say. People are like, well, how long have you been doing a capoeira? I'm like, I have never done a single class of capoeira. I'm sorry. Um, there you go. There you have it. I have done yoga, we're not doing yoga. And uh Sila, I know Jarlo has done quite a bit of that. I've never done that though. So yes.

SPEAKER_01

So this is where, you know, I don't want to get too heavy into like context versus content, but when you look at yoga or capoeira or dance or any of these disciplines, these are not content necessarily. These are context. Right, right, right. There are movements that are used in many, many, many movement disciplines, but they're used differently in each discipline. So you can do a movement that may be seen in Capoeira, but without the drums, without the white pants, kind of joking, but without a partner, it is not Capoeira. Right. Right? Unless it is in the context of what Capo era is about. You can do a movement that might be seen in a BJJ class, but unless you're doing it with the intention of trying to improve your ability to do wrestling movements, it's not actually BJJ that you're doing. You're just doing a movement. So when you free yourself from the context, then that is where you have a movement that kind of stands on its own, an exercise, if you will. And that's where you have to choose. Well, now that we don't have a context to put it in, how do we choose the right way to do this? Right? Um so when we do seminars, we always have people with a lot of different experiences come. And it seems like the ones with the most experience in fitnessing seem to be the ones who get caught off guard by things before.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, absolutely. So in the very beginning of uh the seminars, always start off in doing um particular warmups. And it's really interesting because I can see, and I even say this, I say I know that everyone is coming from different backgrounds. I say, if you can just put all that to the side and just look at these movements that I'm trying to explain to you with beginners' eyes. And um it's just always so funny because even though I say that and immediately go into the warm-up, you can tell, oh, this person has an animal flow background. This person has studied under Ido Partal or, you know, Capoeira or something. And even though I'm saying, okay, just try it this way, they'll add that flair to it, whatever that can be. And um, while that's not bad at all, it's just very interesting because people get so locked into what they feel it should be based on their prior experiences, instead of letting go of that and simply trying to see it for what it could be or a different way of that. So just right away, in every single seminar I've taught, that happens. Again, it's not that it's bad, it's just very interesting because, like you said, typically the people with the most fitness experience, if you will, the movers out there or the ones who are so locked into thinking it should be a particular way. And it kind of surprises me because I'm like, why are you here? But uh by the end of the seminar, usually changes, yeah, by the end of the seminar, it usually changes, which is very cool. And uh yeah, yeah, that's a that's one example.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, I mean, from my own experience too, I've I've you know tried a variety of martial arts. I know you've done a lot more than I have. Uh, but I've also been doing my main martial art for you know well over 30 years now. Forever. Yeah. What I I find happens anytime I try something new is that I tend to see it through the lens of all the things I've done before. Absolutely. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I do know that it prevents me or makes it difficult for me, increases friction in my ability to experience a new thing and to try to understand it on its own terms. And this is really what we're talking about is bringing a context with you to something. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And it's tough. I mean, you know, like you said, I've done a lot of different martial arts. I've I've you know studied a lot of different things. And I think one thing that if I can brag about is that whenever I go in to learn something new, I'm really good at just letting go of that other stuff. And I think this is also a Japan thing and trying to, I don't want to say just fit in, but really trying to understand where this particular person is coming from to try and get a feel so that I can be better and see if this is going to work for me or not. And so um, yeah, it's always been like I remember a first lesson when I went to Shorinji Kenpo and we were just doing punches. And I remember the way that they punched was so foreign to me that I just hear I couldn't even, I was just like, what? And I tried to do it, and the guy was like, no, that's wrong. You never want to do that. And uh I almost left for the fact that the guy said that is wrong, you never want to do that. But I stuck around and uh things worked out pretty well. But I just thought that was funny that it can go like both sides of the lenses, you know?

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, for sure. And so, you know, you might say, okay, I get it, but what's wrong with bringing a context with me? What's wrong with, you know, think I know this? And the reason is that we're what we're leading up to here is explaining how we choose the right things to focus on. And so if you're bringing another idea of what's right to something, and if you look at if you look at a movement Ryan is teaching and you say, Oh, well, that's C Lot, so I'm gonna do it the way that it's done in C Lot. Well, what's happening then is that you're practicing C Lot, which is fine, but you're not practicing what we're trying to teach you in the context that we're trying to create that is again aimed at autonomy, longevity, and fun, which is probably not what C Lot is aimed at. I'm not an expert in this, but I I'm pretty sure that C Lot is not about autonomy, longevity, and fun. So uh, you know, when we're trying to teach a certain way, there's a reason for the things that are subtly different from all of those. And that's why it's important to make the distinction. So let's talk about form and what makes good form. We've done a previous episode about this. We have an article on the website about it. So I don't want to go too much into it, but uh what would you say, just encapsulate up to now the things that we've discussed? What is our like best definition of what good form means?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, good form really comes down to safety. I think that's really the biggest thing, the takeaway for any of this. And so when a person um when a yoga person looks at my hollow body plank that I'm doing, and uh you flying your helicopter there. So when a when a yoga person looks at my hollow body plank and says that's wrong, and that's the wrong way to do the plank, um, I get it. I I I totally get why she's doing that. Or I say she, that I the only reason I say she because I remember it was uh it was a female yoga teacher who brought this up to me. But the thing is, is we're looking at safety and and how these particular movements translate into moves down the road. So again, it's safety, but also looking at how these particular um positions of the movements will allow us to do more advanced movements safely. So it all comes back to being able to do it safely and um set ourselves up for more advanced movements. So in a nutshell, that's really what it's about. And again, this always comes back to that autonomy, uh, you know, longevity. If you if you're not focusing on the safety portion of that particular position in the beginning, uh you might have shoulder issues along down the road, you might have hip issues, knee problems, and whatnot. And that's not going to allow you to do some of the movements that we're trying to do here in GMB.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. And I think another thing that's really important to consider is that uh, you know, I think a lot of coaches might not get this. Uh uh, and not not they don't get this as in terms of they don't understand it, but they they might just never have had the experience of this. But we're sort of unique at GMB in that we have primarily taught online and we've taught many, many thousands and thousands, like hundreds of thousands of people have used our materials and interacted with us. And so the thing that happens there is you get people with many different backgrounds, with many different bodies, with many different goals are now coming to us and using our material. And I think a lot of coaches use, I mean, when I was starting out for sure, I only worked with martial artists.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Right. Um, so what we have another thing that we always take into consideration is that we're trying to teach exercises in a way that will work for many different bodies. Right. Right. And this is something where a lot of technique Nazis, I think, are just deadass wrong, is we'll say, well, there's only one way to do a push up, and you must do it this way, and your shoulders must be over your hands. And and a lot of these things are important if you are important for good form, what you want to uh ideally be. Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_02

But at different stages in your development, in your growth, in your building of strength and and health overall, right? Then at different stages you have different things you need to focus on. And I think that that is something that is very, very commonly neglected when people talk about the right way to do an exercise. And so this is something that at GMB, when we are looking at something that is aimed at beginners, we are going to give cues that are aimed at people that probably do not have a lot of experience.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We can teach the same exercise, but when we are doing it in a beginner program or in an introductory something, or if we're doing it in a more advanced format, then we're going to use completely different cues for those people.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And another thing to mention as well is the fact that some people, if we're looking at, let's say, the push-up, the ideal push-up position, we're working with people who can't get into that position. And so we need to actually start at a lower level addressing, you know, first assessing what's going on with those people. They might have a shoulder issue. Okay. So in that case, we're going to focus on making sure that they can eventually and comfortably get into that position to start doing push-ups. So that's the thing, too. And so when a person, I'm, you know, there's so many wonderful training programs out there, but sometimes they start at a level that it just assumes that a person can get into a position. And so that, like coming back to what you said with the form Nazis, that really gets me too because it it all comes down to the person and being able to assess where there are and address their issues that they have so that they can focus on uh whatever they need to be doing so that in the end they can move better. That's it, right?

SPEAKER_02

Right, right. So, you know, our general guidance in terms of details for exercise form is really that the most frustrating two words in the English language, it depends. Part of it depends. You know, we can't give you an exact answer on these things, uh, but we do have a lot of data, a lot of experience from many, many people we've worked with, and we are able to generalize extremely well at different stages and for different types of people. And you know, we're the only company like us that I'm aware of that has, you know, several full-time support staff that are highly trained in helping people make these adjustments to the program because it's just so important, right? Yeah, yeah. So the other thing is that that you see with a lot of people talking about the the details of an exercise or the correct form or the right way to do things. And this is you know, rookie mistake number one. We talk about this a lot in our trainer apprenticeship, even is giving too many details. Yeah. Oh God. Oh my god. Please forgive us on the podcast because we have to talk for like 30 to 40 minutes. Yeah. Sorry, we're just gonna give you guys a lot of details. Don't bulk here. But when you're coaching someone, you don't want to talk for 30 to 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. And coming back to the apprenticeship, because you brought this up. When I'm teaching, when I'm, you know, sharing these videos on how to teach a particular movement, yeah, I'm talking a lot, but the thing is it comes down to a single cue. That's it, one single thing. So it always drives me crazy when I see videos out there, and they're like, okay, you need to do this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this. Okay. When we're shooting a tutorial, yes, we're trying to give all of the different cues to let you know. But when you're actually focusing on a movement, you only want to focus on a single cue. And sometimes that cue, well, in our case, the cue should be simple enough to allow multiple areas of the body to correct itself rather than you trying to correct it. And so a good example would be uh when we're looking at uh the A-frame position that we have. The only cue I say is butt up. And so by you know, pushing the butt up into the air, it's gonna help with you know scapular elevation, it's gonna look at elongating the legs, uh, driving the heels down to the floor, pelvic tilt. Everything's gonna happen instead of me saying push away from the ground in order to get scapular elevation and you know all this other crap that the person trying to do the A-frame probably doesn't understand what you're talking about. So by just saying butt in the air, then you're automatically cueing them in a way that's gonna allow them to do what is necessary in the most uh expedient way.

SPEAKER_02

Right. And I think, you know, partly due to uh the, you know, we're what is this, the the information age? Is that what the old people call it? Partly due to the proliferation of the internet and the fact that you can find any kind of reference material in the world, you know, the sum of the world's knowledge online. We have a lot of of armchair anatomists out there. Uh that when they look at when they look at exercises, they start trying to analyze this stuff and like, oh, I I'm I'm having difficulty uh activating my serratus muscle. Uh I don't really give a shit, man.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's not up higher. Yeah, exactly. It's just great. Just do this, man. Just try it out, you know?

SPEAKER_02

But this is what's important. And especially if you happen to be somebody who coaches other people, uh, don't try to impress them with all your Gray's anatomy knowledge. Because if you say elevate your scapula to somebody who hasn't really been involved in this stuff for a while, they don't know what the hell you're talking about. You know, but you can say if their arms are overhead, you can say, you know, push away from the floor. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Right. But and this is something that uh physical therapists talk about too is internal versus external cues. Yes. Don't want to give somebody a cue that is like, you know, activate your glutes. Yeah, it's like telling a person to relax, right? Right. Yeah. So instead you tell them to drive their heel into the floor.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And that's going to activate the glute plenty.

SPEAKER_03

Right?

SPEAKER_02

So you have to give them something that they can feel, that they can understand. And this is something a lot of coaches make mistakes in it. And it's something that I also think a lot of uh a lot of people that are trying to uh a lot of people that are trying to learn how to exercise and how to get fit also make mistakes in that they're trying to learn all of these technical details. Yes. They really just need to be focused on the sensation in their bodies of doing it correctly.

SPEAKER_00

Great point.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yes, don't need to activate your serratus.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Now, this is so important. So coming back to the apprenticeship, this is the one thing that we see in the very beginning of the apprenticeship that actually hinders people's progress in the apprenticeship because they get so focused on looking at what you just said, trying to be trying to sound anatomically um savvy. Savvy, thank you. And I'm like, no, man, let's that's great. We all know, okay, if you're in the apprenticeship, you've got a background in anatomy. I get that. We can talk about that stuff, but it's not going to help us. What's going to help you to be a better teacher? And what's going to help you to be able to help a person as quickly as possible? So when you get hung up on that sort of thing, it kind of reminds me of uh the example we gave in the beginning where about the seminar, where you're still so focused on the other stuff that you've learned that you're not actually looking at what's right in front of you. And uh this can go for anything. And so, like trying to let go of some of that other stuff, you still know it, it's still there. You can still use it when you need to, but focusing on how you can take the simplest answer out of whatever's going and run with that. And so that's when we're looking at when we're looking at the details and trying to choose the right details, that's what we're after. What is the simplest solution that's gonna hit all the answers? Not well, I won't say all, but as many different places as we can. And that's why, for example, coming back to the A-frame, but but up, simply by saying that, you're automatically gonna solve a lot of things that are going on. And um when we assess, that's what we do, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely. A lot of details about sort of generally what cues are for and and what kind of cues are good and what they're used for. Let's talk about sort of how we select the technical cues we use at GMB, how we decide which details are important and which ones that we decide to work into our techniques.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so first thing, of course, would be safety. Um, we've already mentioned this before, and that's a huge one. Um, are you actually able to get into a position? What we're doing is we're assessing you. We start off with our AAA framework where we look at where you are, like, you know, trying to put that ego aside and being like, okay, like really, really, where are you? Are you able to safely get into a position? Can you squat down? Uh, can you actually get down onto the floor to start? Um, what's going on with your wrists, you know, shoulders, whatnot. So looking at all of that, making sure things are safe. Um, this also goes for things like, for example, balance. Like, let's say you're getting you want to learn a cartwheel or something like that. Do you have the balance to start doing that? The thing is, if you don't have that and you just jump it, like literally jump into something, you you could injure yourself. And so again, it all comes down to that. Uh let's see, what else? Um uh looking speed and power before you add anything into that. So as you start working on to the next levels of thing, rather than again, just jumping into it, slowly ramping things up. That's also very important. That's why we have progressions, that's also why we use auto-regulation. So there might be days where um you need to kind of back off a bit. And so that's also very important. And so when we're looking at the cues that we're using for certain things, um, again, it's a single cue, but it's going to be dependent on where you are that day and what you need. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So another thing I think we're in that in safety that's a big one is uh correct joint alignment for a lot of these movements.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And this is something where uh again, it can be really easy to get into like, you know, pretending that you know all of the anatomy and that you're you're a biomechanist, or you know, you you once you once write a blog post by a physical therapist, so you know all about it. Uh, but what we're really talking about is things like not joint alignment in a technical sense, but turning the hand in a certain way, or holding the shoulder in a certain way, or making sure the feet are aligned in a certain way, making sure that we teach the movements in a way that puts the joint in a safe position, that puts the body in a safe position to uh to move uh with power, to move with speed, to move with strength, if those are the things that you're working on, but also just to absorb the weight of your movement as you're going through things. There's a lot of details in the techniques that we teach, a lot of the details in the movements that uh are taught other ways, yeah, in other disciplines for different reasons. Perhaps it leads to another exercise or leads to something else, or puts you in a position for something else. But for us, a lot of times, we will tell you to turn the fingers a certain way or to hold the shoulder a certain way so that it aligns your joints in a way that is safer for you for the level this particular practice is at.

SPEAKER_00

And that's the big one there. And a good example of this would be coming back to that A frame. Some people actually don't have the shoulder mobility to get their fingers to face forward. And so we'll ask that person to turn the fingers outward. Now, from another system fitness organization, might say, no, no, no, you got to keep your fingers facing forward. That's great for whatever they're doing, but what we're looking at is that individual and what they need in order to get into that position safely, to look at the joint integrity of what's going on. And so, you know, case by case, again, it comes back down to that assessing what's going on in your dress, and then we apply what's necessary for that particular person.

SPEAKER_02

Right. So joint alignment isn't like a set of arbitrary rules, like, you know, uh keep keep the knees uh tracking over the toes and don't let the feet turn out or anything like that. I mean, those things are are useful guidelines, but usually when we're talking about joint alignment, we really mean like you know, things like turning turning your hands where they need to be so that your sh your elbows and your shoulders are in the right position for everything to be safe. Right? Okay. So then next one then is uh we we have a lot of details that we teach to have people be set up for a different kind of movement or to prepare them to be able to do a next variation or a more challenging or complex variation. Uh so tell us a little bit more about some of those.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely. So, excuse me, you know, as we all know, there are particular progressions that you're going to be working on when moving towards advanced skills. A lot of places out there might say, okay, you have to have a particular duration of time and have mastered that before moving on. Um, we like to think more along the lines, though, of do you own that particular movement at that level? And so by setting you up for that next progression, what we're saying is, are you comfortable? And a lot of people might not understand what we mean by comfortable, but thinking about when you're in that particular position, when you're in that movement, comfort, comfort means that you're you're able to get into that position without any discomfort at all. And you're able to have control over that movement that could be with your breathing, that can be actually like in movement. Are you in balance when you're doing that? And so rather than saying, okay, you have to have a minute before you move on, we like to say, again, do you have mastery over that movement? And so, and are you able to repeat that movement consecutive times? So that's also very important. So it's not just doing it once and going, yeah, I got this. Yeah, I watched this tutorial, I can do that, I'm ready to move on. No, can you repeat that at a high level of performance for yourself? And so that's that's very important when we're talking about setup as well as prep. I mean, prep you can also look, of course, at like warm-up and things like that, but we're talking about actually being able to move to the next progression safely and being able to do that over the long run. Again, we can also look at fun when it comes back to this. Fun meaning when you have mastery over that movement, it should feel fun. It's not crushing you, okay? Again, you're comfortable repeating this uh movement numerous times. And so that's when you own it and that's when you're ready to move on to the next progression.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. And so, you know, we we choose, we talk about you know specific positions. Like the handstand is a really good example here because uh, you know, a lot of people say, well, you know, a right, a correct handstand, a proper handstand has to be exactly straight, toe-pointed, chin tucked, or whatever. And the thing is, if you've got a banana handstand and you're happy with that and that's all you really want out of life, that's completely fine. Oh, that's great. Now we do teach a very straight handstand. Uh and we've got a very good process for this that gets people able to hold a very straight handstand. So the reason for that isn't that a hand a straight handstand is objectively better. Right. It's that it allows you to build uh a lot of control that you can then use to do other movements and transitions in that inverted position. Working up to a one-arm handstand, working up to you know, handstand push-ups, yeah, push-ups, or handstand to other movements. Exactly. And this is why that's important. Uh, but I I mean I'll also say having a really good banana handstand where you can balance dynamically with a bent body and be able to move and shift around in that position, if you want to do handstand walking, well, that's something that's gonna be really helpful for you. Yeah, absolutely. Again, what you're trying to prepare for makes a big difference.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's what I was just gonna say, right? It all comes back down to your goals as well. And so, you know, and that's why, like, for example, yeah, we might show uh I don't even know, like uh the example you gave was that straight arm handstand. But again, if you're at a point in your life where banana handstand is like you're like totally cool with that, cool, man, stick with it. You there's no reason to move forward. I mean, be you, I guess is just what I'm trying to say. So uh next up, yeah, awareness. Yes, awareness.

SPEAKER_02

So this is something where we'll choose we'll choose details to focus on that I'm gonna go on and say this is as close to arbitrary as GMB ever gets.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but it's arbitrary for a reason, which almost makes it not arbitrary. So it's pseudo-arbitrary, personal arbitrary, or arbitrary. I'm not really sure exactly uh how this works out. But here's the thing: if I tell you to jump, you will jump. Because everyone thinks they know how to jump. That's cool. Um but if I tell you to jump, you'll jump and you won't focus on anything at all. You'll just jump. But if I tell you to jump and stick your landing, you're gonna focus on how your feet hit the floor.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

You're going to bend your knees, you're gonna focus on sinking your weight down, and you're gonna do a lot of this stuff subconsciously. So, what I'm getting at with this is that we give cues sometimes just to make you aware of what you're doing. Right. And this is another thing that happens in seminars a lot. Like when we show the frogger, what does everyone do?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, they just jump right into it, right? As fast as they can. They just like they they gazelle across the floor, man. Yeah, man. But that's how frogs do it.

SPEAKER_02

Right. But what so then what we do is we want people to slow down, we want people to do it a certain way because actually the way we do frogger, it's actually there's so much more pulling involved.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like people jump into it and they end up pushing with their ankles and they're not getting that. But so we have cues that we use in situations like this that are designed not because they're better or more safe or really lead to anything, but just to slow your ass down.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and that's the big thing is slowing things down. And if we can come back to the jump example. That you gave earlier, something that I always like to say is land as quietly as possible. And so by bringing reframing that, so this is the thing, is we like to reframe. And so we use particular cues because it's bringing awareness in. And I haven't told you how to land in terms of technically haven't told you how to land. But whenever I ask a person, I'd say, okay, everybody, show me your jump, they jump. It sounds like elephants landing, right? And then you say just land quietly, you find that the jumps have improved considerably because they are landing more efficiently. They're landing the way their bodies want to land. And so, you know, that's what it's about and slowing things down. So we just talk about this quickly. Every time a person tries to do a new move, they're always going to try and rush through it. Great. You know, and that's again coming back to the point where someone might watch our tutorial on the on YouTube and they try it and they say, Oh, I got it. It's just totally easy. But when I ask them to slow things down, that's where it changes, right? Slowing things down is going to give you feedback and make you more aware of your weaknesses. And that's what we're after is slowing things down in order to get you stronger. And a lot of people kind of miss out on that. But when you can slow things down and truly do things slower, you can master a movement. Because then you can always do it fast. It's more difficult to do anything slower. Chin-ups are a great example, right? Crank through those chin-ups, do kipping pull-ups, great. How slow can you do a chin-up? The slower you can do that chin-up and do it with our form in terms of what we consider good form. It's going to help you with your kipping pull-ups if you want to do more kipping pull-ups. It doesn't work the other way around. More kipping pull-ups doesn't equate to solid, strict form chin-ups.

SPEAKER_02

Right. So a lot of things we like to pull technical pews kind of out of a hat sometimes. Uh and it doesn't make them wrong, you know, it's but they are kind of arbitrary. But we do this just so you'll have something to focus on. Because a lot of times when you do a movement, if you don't have something specific to focus on, you just blast through it. And we find that attention is really key to quality movement. And especially if you're trying to improve the way you move and the way you do a particular task, you need to be aware. Yes. You just rely on autopilot to take you through something, you're not going to get better at it. So we use cues to make you be aware of things, to make you be aware of how your hand is hitting the floor. Yeah. Right? When who thinks about that usually? Not many people. Yeah. Right. So let's kind of wrap things up here. Um, you know, the details around the best way to do something is not, yeah, it's not fully objective. It's it's really dependent on your contacts and goals. Right. It has nothing to do with where somebody on the internet claims a movement originated from.

SPEAKER_00

That's right.

SPEAKER_02

Uh it has to do with where you are, uh, your body, what you've done, and what you're trying to do, and what's next for you. So this is one reason why it's valuable to seek coaching from people who have worked in a variety of disciplines rather than just someone who comes from a single sport background. Because that person has one context that they understand. Yep. Uh, and it might not be applicable to you. Um, good form is always relative. Check our previous material for that. Uh, but regardless of context, we want to focus on a minimal number of cues. You're not listing technical details to judge yourself against. You're doing it so you can find the one thing that's going to make you better.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um, and for us, that's focused on autonomy, longevity, and having a good time with it.

SPEAKER_00

You know, having a good time.

SPEAKER_02

Having a good time, man. It's important. You know, and absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So this is too serious to be taken seriously, man. That's right.

SPEAKER_02

So let's let's wrap this up with I've got kind of a tip for everyone out there. One thing that you can do right now that sort of I think will bring a lot of this episode home for you is to get clear and detailed with some of the things you're already doing. I don't want you to go and try to look up the right way to do things and change what you're doing, but I want you to write down uh not even every exercise you do. Like just pick three to five exercise-related activities that you do and write down what they are, then write why you're doing that thing. What specific goal does that exercise or movement or activity contribute to? And then for each one of those, write how you can do that activity in a way that optimizes it for that specific goal. So, for example, if you are, you know, if you jog three times a week because you want to get your endurance up, well, how can you make sure, how can you do your run those three times a week that's gonna have the best impact on your endurance, right? So be really clear in detail about each movement. If you're doing push-ups to uh, you know, build your chest or your triceps, or if you're doing push-ups to build your overall pressing power or whatever, whatever is the reason you've chosen that exercise? What is the reason you're doing it, and how can you do it in the best way for that reason? So don't use the technical cues that maybe come from a different reason.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then just write those things down. And I would say, like, put those on a little note card, put it in your gym bag, remind yourself every session, I'm gonna focus on this one thing for this exercise, and that's going to get you to your goals a lot faster than if you just do them some random way. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, preach it, brother. All right, so that is all we got for today. Thank you for listening. We appreciate you.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Until next time. Ta da.