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Furman McDonald, MD, MPH, President a CEO of the American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM), joins ACCME President and CEO, Graham McMahon, MD, MMSc, to reflect on 10 years of collaboration between ACCME and ABIM. Listen in as they articulate the distinct and complementary roles of certification and accredited CME, and make the case for rigorous, trusted systems of physician accountability and lifelong learning.