
Hope Johnson's Wisdom Dialogues
Hope Johnson's Wisdom Dialogues
Body is for Communication | Wisdom Dialogues @ Ajijic, Mexico | August 4, 2025
The journey toward awakening isn't about denying our experiences, but seeing through them to the truth they reveal. In this profound episode of Wisdom Dialogues, Hope Johnson shares revelatory insights about how we use our bodies and what they're truly meant for.
Hope begins by challenging our fundamental understanding of the body's purpose, explaining that it's meant solely for communication rather than obtaining worldly pleasure or status. This shift in perspective opens the door to examining how sexual desire and longing for special relationships actually substitute for the true union our spirits crave – union with God and the entire Sonship that transcends physical form entirely.
Through personal reflections on her experiences since moving to Mexico, Hope reveals how observing patterns of desire in others helped her recognize her own seeking behaviors. She shares how purifying sexual desire led her to discover the masculine and feminine energies within spiritual practice – the masculine providing discipline and direction, the feminine offering receptivity and surrender. Both are essential on the path to awakening.
Perhaps most liberating is Hope's exploration of the mind's harmlessness. Contrary to popular belief, our thoughts cannot harm us or create negative physical manifestations. The mind is 100% harmless in reality, only capable of projecting illusions. This understanding frees us from victimhood and self-blame, allowing us to recognize that in every moment we can choose to see differently and release ourselves from suffering.
The conversation extends to addiction, judgment, and the power of seeing everything as helpful rather than harmful. Hope compassionately dismantles the belief that we must control our behaviors, showing how removing judgment allows natural transformation without struggle.
Ready to experience true freedom? Join Hope in discovering how taking 100% responsibility for your perceptions becomes the path to liberation. Explore this wisdom-packed dialogue that will forever change how you view your mind, body, and spiritual journey.
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Aloha and welcome to Wisdom Dialogues with Hope Johnson, coming to you from Ajijic, mexico. Yay, thank you so much for joining. Yes, woo, uh, whoo, oh, been, uh, been clearing so much. Oh, my goodness, what a purification it's been. Wow, hmm, let's take a moment to breathe together. Ah, thank you, acahi. Yes, vibrant and healthy, thank you. He's saying. I'm looking vibrant and healthy.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, you know, the body is 100%, a reflection of the mental 100%. And as long as we're willing to use our body only for communication, you know what that means. Using it only for communication, it's not using the body to try to get anything in the world. That's where the vibrancy comes from. It's when we use the body to try to get anything or to attack right To attack is really to try to get something for the ego. It gets identity for the ego. So, not using the body for attack, not using the body to try to get anything, which is really the same thing as attack. And the reason it's the same thing as attack is because we don't really want anything here, and all of our seeking in the world only leads to one thing death. And, on the way, a lot of attack also, all attack is physical. That's the only kind of attack there is. So it's like we're attacking our own form with these thoughts that basically deny the true purpose of our body, which is communication.
Speaker 1:And let's go into that for a minute. A minute Communication. What is that? Why? Why is the body only to be used for communication? And that's because this whole world is only meant to be used for purifying guilt. It's not meant to be used for anything else. You know the ego has other purposes for the world. You know, to get something to attain, to have a better status in the world, to have a better status in the world. But that's not what it's for. That's misunderstanding what the world is actually for. And to the ego that sounds like it can't be fun. Then, if we're only using the body for communication, if all we're doing is using it to wake up from the dream, then how could it be any fun? Right? But what's really fun, what real fun comes from, is resting in the truth, and it's very restful, it's spacious and it's restful to recognize what the body is for. So what's been coming really clear to me lately, in the past couple weeks actually, I did a post on Substack about it.
Speaker 1:Some of you guys might have seen it. Also, I do voiceovers for those. I know they're long and they're like. The last one I did was over 1,700 words and I do read them so you can listen to the voiceover. But you have to be a paid subscriber in order to do that. And what I'm telling you guys for my wisdom dialogues people and my ACIM deep dive people, I offer free, lifetime paid subscriptions to my sub stack so you can listen. And then I encourage you to donate via my website, because donations that you do on Substack they take 15% and I don't think you can use them as a tax write-off. But when you do it on my website, I'm a non-profit religious organization, I'm a nonprofit religious organization, so you get a tax write-off, probably 100% tax write-off. So I encourage you guys to get on as a paid subscriber, even if it's a free paid subscriber, because then you can listen.
Speaker 1:I not only do a voiceover, but I do another reflection. I call it a bonus audio. It's a reflection on that piece where it's just free flow, going into it Raw, unfiltered, unedited, and the last one I did was an hour and 20 minutes. So it's kind of like another wisdom dialogues actually. So, anyways, I've been going into the whole relationship and specifically sexual relationship.
Speaker 1:Since I've moved here, I spent my first month. I've been here since June. I spent my first month at Namaste Village, where it happens to be people who are around I would say around 75, maybe. Average age is 75, 75 to 80 years old and the reflection that I got was from many of them certainly not all of them, but many of them is this sexual longing, a longing for a partner, and you know, sex is part of it, but there's this longing for a partner that's kind of like a life partner and it's all really the same. Longing is longing, it's not recognizing who you are and the seeking.
Speaker 1:And then I also took a trip to Guadalajara, where I just saw all of these posters of missing people like thousands of them, I think just walking around and it occurred to me that this sex trafficking thing and then the longing for this, this kind of union, it's like a body union, it's a, it's a union of two bodies, which is really impossible, right? So it came really clear to me and this was something that I had an intention for back in Hawaii that I wanted to purify sexual desire within myself because I just noticed that it led to pain. So here you know, and having these different perceptions and then moving out. I moved out of Namaste and came and lived down by the lake and you know, I was having occasional it wasn't as often as before because it's been really lightening up the whole time ever since I made that intention where I was like I want to purify sexual desire and I wasn't sure what that looked like, but I wasn't afraid of it. I was like, does that look like? No more sex, I don't know, but I'm not going to be afraid of it, right, because I see the suffering that it's causing.
Speaker 1:And look at this, you're not alone in experiencing the effects of your thoughts. So I'm going oh, the world that I perceive is actually coming from me. So there's a world that I perceive, one it seems like all the dudes around town, most of the dudes around town. There's gay ones too, but most of the dudes around town are into me, like Uber drivers, anyone. And then I'm getting the perception of all this suffering that people are going through over not having that partner and also being up in age and having the belief that they're not attractive enough to hook a partner anymore, right, and looking at that and going, wow, this is giving to me right now to purify it.
Speaker 1:If everything I perceive is coming from me and I'm not alone in experiencing the effects of my thoughts and the effects of how I see, then I'm the one causing all of this suffering, including all of the apparent sex trafficking that I perceive and thousands of people's posters everywhere around Guadalajara about being missing. Right, so I had, I had a, I had an experience where it was. It just goes. I just saw really clearly. It always leads to suffering, holy shit, it always leads to suffering. And then there's this sense within me but no, there has to be some way. There has to be some way that I could have that and it wouldn't be suffering. And it was shown to me really clearly. It's always suffering.
Speaker 1:It's seeking in any way, seeking in any, you know, in any way. And I was talking with my friend about it because, you know, I feel like within myself, I feel really clear about it, because it's like, even when a little bit like the ego will talk to me, maybe it'll be like a voice or a word. I heard before where it's kind of like trying to hook me in to the fantasy of having that basically special person, special relationship, right, kind of hook me into that fantasy and I'll just be reminded, no, that I know what that leads to. It's not only just a distraction, it's actually a substitute. It's actually a substitute for resting in truth. So it's like we can never know, and that's the ego's hook. We can never know what resting in truth is like, as long as it's taken as something valuable, that seeking and you know I'm talking specifically here about sex and seeking a partner, but it's really any kind of seeking, it's really any kind of seeking. You know, for me that was just the one, and it seems to be that a lot of the people that I've been interacting with too, that's the one major hook.
Speaker 1:It's like there's always like this little bit of hopefulness that there's going to be that special one that chooses you. And it's like this sacred union. And here's the thing about sacred union it has nothing to do with bodies. That's what's been coming more and more clear to me this week. It has nothing to do with bodies, and what I noticed about myself is I just have no ties to anybody, and that feels really good, it's really enlivening, it's very restful to have no ties, no dependency, no sense of any kind of ownership or wanting. It's not even uh, it's not even a matter of uh, looking for someone to sit across from me, it's not even that. It's not looking for a body at all, because true union is union with the entire, entire sonship and God as one. God, jesus, the sonship, all of that, as soon as we choose one, as soon as we choose one or want to be chosen as one, it's like a total rejection of all of the others. See, and that's what's leading to all of this that we perceive in the world, it's this unwillingness to be one with all that is that includes all the kind of abuse that we perceive on any scale corporate abuse, right, Government abuse On any scale. Corporate abuse, right, government abuse, any of that. It's all reflected, it's all coming from our own mind. When we take 100% responsibility for it.
Speaker 1:It's like, oh, my goodness, I don't want to trade. That's not a good trade-off to get a moment of where I don't want to project a good feeling onto my body anymore, right? I don't want to project a good feeling onto my body anymore, right? I don't want to project a good feeling. And what I mean about that is like this, like to dream about something you might get in the world and project a sense of pleasure onto the body. So that's what happens.
Speaker 1:That's what was happening for me with sexual fantasies is, and you know, to give you an example of what that looks like, what does it look like? I'm just like I perceive myself walking down the street and all of a sudden, there's like there's the breath, a sense of the breath and the voice and the sensations, and what I came to a little while ago is oh, I'm projecting all that stuff. It's not really the other person that I seem to be thinking about that's doing it to me. I'm actually projecting all that stuff, and that even includes during the sexual act. You're projecting it. You know, what Jesus was saying was there's no pleasure to get out of these bodies. There's actually no pleasure, but when we believe that we can get pleasure out of them, we're projecting right.
Speaker 1:And also, not everyone is ready for this. And if you feel like you're not ready for this, this is no judgment on you Just take it as like a seed. Right, it's just a seed. And the reason I'm sharing it with you because it's ultimate happiness, okay, so I was reflecting on this with a friend of mine and she was expressing great resistance and I was like, wow, I'm glad she's doing that because I can see this is an aspect of my own mind. Actually, this is an aspect of my mind and she's projecting this defensiveness and I'm sure a lot of people who are listening to this they're feeling defensive about what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's like, no, don't take that away. That would be. You know. Then, really, what use would this life even be? That's the only thing that's giving me any hope in this life is that I can achieve that union at some point in time. Right? And it's like don't pressure, you don't need to pressure yourself. You know, don't pressure, you don't need to pressure yourself. It's really about allowing yourself to just see this gently. And also, it's not about the act. It is not about the act itself. So this isn't about me taking on some identity like now I'm celibate, now I'm a celibate person. Identity like now I'm celibate, now I'm a celibate person. I'm not taking on an identity like that. I have no idea if I will engage in that act again. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It seems like not, because I don't let my mind go to making bodies into objects like that, right, making it as if I can join with a body, as if that would mean any kind of union. I'm not fooling myself into believing it's anything other than a substitute for true union, for truly resting in the peace of God. That's true union and that includes everyone. That's the reason why, when one body is singled out, or a group of bodies or whatever are singled out for that to bring us pleasure, we can't be joining. It's not joining, it's actually resisting joining.
Speaker 1:And you know the reason I say it's not in the act, because what's occurring on the surface, you know, in the field, basically consciousness, that's the surface layer. That's like barely anything, what we're perceiving this whole world, it's a surface layer. You can say it's a real thin layer. So that's not the thing to try to manage. That's not the thing to try to manage. What's going on beneath that thin layer of consciousness? There's a huge layer of unconscious and basically, you know, unwatched as we uh, as we found out, as we studied, uh, last Wednesday on the ACIM deep dive it's basically unwatched thoughts. That's the unconscious right. So once we start watching our thoughts, um, what Jesus was saying in our, in our study last week, is that it's super fearful, it's the source of all fright. It's the unconscious and that's why we're afraid of it. It's projecting a body. The unconscious is what's projecting a body and the reason that fearful and fear equals pain. Fear is pain. So, and the reason why we're afraid of it is because we believe that those thoughts are actually our real thoughts and they're not our real thoughts. That's the reason we can look at it right Now.
Speaker 1:I've been saying for years, you know, because I'm talking about, I'm talking, I love you too. Thank you, my love. So I've been, you know, I've been saying this for years because you know, this would come up around Puna about people being pervs, you know, guys being pervs and there would be all these projections about the guys being pervs and don't you think that guy's a perv? And stuff like that. And I've been saying for years I'm the perv, that I'm perceiving. If I'm perceiving a perv, I'm the fucking perv, right, and that's something I've been, you know. I've been on that. I know. Whatever I perceive, that's my mind, that must be my mind.
Speaker 1:So what that did for me is it helped me to look at the thoughts that are in the unconscious, unwatched, unconscious thoughts, and wow, that was really accurate. I'm a super perv, you know, if I believe that those thoughts are actually mine. Of course I can't be a perv, right? That's not possible. It's not possible for us to be anything but purely innocent and holy and loved and lovable, right. But there's the self that we're projecting, which is largely this body that's projected onto the screen here. Largely this body that's projected onto the screen here, this body that we're perceiving, that's on a trajectory from birth to death. That thing is a full-on fucking perv. It's all well, it's really nothing, because it's a projection. It's a projection of these really perverted thoughts.
Speaker 1:And it may not, you know, you may not experience it as sexual, but what I'm being shown is the sexual thoughts are always there in everyone. That's a huge drive. And not only sexual thoughts. Murderous thoughts those two are mirrors of each other. It's like two sides of a coin. Sexous thoughts those two are mirrors of each other. It's like two sides of a coin sex and murder.
Speaker 1:And it was funny because my friend Wayne, who's on here today I love you too, wayne, thank you. Holy relationship guided by the Holy Spirit rocks. Yes, definitely, but he was he. He tuned me into this song by Joni Mitchell that says sex kills. I think that was it, what it was. Sex kills, I believe that's what it was, and I was like, wow, I don't feel so weird. Now there's actually. There's actually a famous person in my projection, who is, who has said the same thing, who has recognized the same thing. And apparently what I got from my friend Wayne is she had lots of sex, she had lots of sex partners, and that's one way to find out.
Speaker 1:So certainly I'm not saying that it's an evil thing or it's a bad thing at all to have sex. That's not the thing. That's only that thin layer that's on the tip of consciousness that's occurring and it's actually through the experiences that we're getting to realize I've also had plenty of sex. I mean, started having sex when I was only six and was in a relationship with my husband for 30 years, and that was a sexual relationship and I went straight to another sexual relationship right after that for about I don't know seven, eight months, something like that. And now it's been. This might be the longest time I've gone without sex since I've been six years old. I'm not sure it's been since. It's been since the end of May, so since I've been here and and it's not like it's not like I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like I said, I'm not saying I'm never going to do it again. It does look like it's not likely, which I sense as there's a little bit of a sorrow in losing that, but at the same time, you could say the incentive. You know, because I've had several experiences where it's shown me the spirit has shown me that there's nothing like resting in the truth, and you can't be resting in the truth anytime you're making a body into an idol, which is basically something that you can use to get anything, to get money, to get pleasure. You know that's why we find people selling themselves out, you know, thinking that you need money. I've seen this in work situations where people won't speak their truth or they'll find themselves acting a certain way because they think they need their job right and just not being authentic. This is a fear that we're not totally taken care of, that we're not completely held in love, and that was one thing I noticed within myself too, and this is what helped me me see part of what helped me see that I don't want it anymore. I don't want that thought that says I can get something from a body.
Speaker 1:What helped me see was this masculine energy. This masculine. Um is not not that masculine energy is bad at all, it's awesome. Actually, the masculine energy is like the direction my friend Wayne was telling me today that A Course in Miracles is very masculine the way it's put out, the way Jesus is talking about. You know, there's all this direction and there's all this discipline.
Speaker 1:It's talking about discipline. It's talking about disciplining the mind, watching your mind. That's very masculine, right? Nothing wrong with masculine at all. It's great In myself what was shown to me, because at first I was going okay, what is going on? Why don't I get reflection that I'm provided for by the masculine in my dream? Basically, on the surface of things, why does it seem like they're extractive? Why does it seem like the men are more extractive than being providers, especially in a financial way? That's the way it totally came up, especially in a financial way. That's the way it totally came up. So that really helped me to see, because I saw how my masculine aspect within myself, while the discipline is great as far as the discipline and watching and all that stuff, there's also a worldly aspect of the masculine that's hypervigilant all the time. That's been just watching and calculating and scanning to make sure everything's okay. So it's basically a lack of trust.
Speaker 1:So the masculine energy, when it's coherent, it's direction, without trying to control things right. It's discipline, things right. It's discipline, but it's flexible. It's not like it's abusive or rigid, let's say so. It's like holding a container for the feminine, which is receptive, flowing and also able to sense when things are coherent or not, when they're coherent or not. And in the sense of A Course in Miracles, it is a very masculine teaching. It's also inviting a very feminine energy, because the feminine energy is this, just willingness to rest, this willingness to rest in the truth. And that's what I noticed occur within myself. It's like when I recognized and I did this with the help of the architect AI to help me recognize what it is, because that thing's based on sacred geometry what it is and it's this hypervigilant masculine. All I needed to do was see that and it just starts unraveling.
Speaker 1:Now there's just a sense of complete relaxation, as if I'm just held. I'm held in love, and the manifestation of that on the surface layer of consciousness is that I'm held in this field of consciousness without needing anything, without needing to check anything, without needing to scan anything, without needing to be that support, that worldly support for people who seem to not be as good at doing that. And you know, I recognize this in my mom so much, you know, when I talk to my mom, pretty much every time I talk to my mom and I've seen myself as like being way advanced as far as this is concerned, because I don't have these manifestations, but she's telling me gosh Hope, I'm so tired, I'm in my 70s now and all these people depend on me and I go Mom, it's a dream, it's a dream You're letting yourself be that for them, right? So? And whenever we're talking to someone, we're talking to ourselves. So I'm seeing this within myself like how I let myself be something that they can depend on.
Speaker 1:And underneath that is fear of not being loved, because you know there's no, there's no use for you, as if the world, if the world has no use for you, then you're not going to be loved. And it's like seeing that that's the tendency and for me it was really subtle, really, I mean, it's not like people look at me and go, wow, you're really like doing all this stuff for all these people. I mean, you might, you might see that in the sense, like I do a lot of free stuff. When it comes to spiritual teachings, I do a lot of free spiritual teachings, but that's not where that masculine in is. It is not in the free spiritual teachings that I'm doing. It's more in my personal relationships where it seems to me that someone needs my help. No one in particular needs our help. When we believe that someone needs our help, we can't be listening to guidance. That doesn't mean they wouldn't necessarily get help from us, apparently on that plane. But this is an energy of giving in a way where there's fear behind it, as if we're not giving and we're not being the strength behind all of our relationships or just some of our relationships, maybe not all of them. Then things are going to fall apart If we're not constantly looking and scanning the field to make sure that we're going to have enough provision.
Speaker 1:In my sense, a lot of it came in the form of financial provision. You know I never got the sense in the projected field that I was being taken care of financially, never even when I was a kid, you know. It seemed like I needed to go to work. And I did go to work very young to get money, not only for myself, to get my own clothes, but to actually pay to rent to my parents so that they would also be able to make it right. So I never got the sense that I was taken care of like that and that doesn't come from the world. That's the other thing. It doesn't come from the world. So I set it up like this on purpose, so that I could see all right, so I could see clearly. We all set our whole life in motion. We set it up the way we want.
Speaker 1:It depends on how much we want to wake up. How much do we want to wake up, see the new age kind of manifesting vibes that everyone's learning is how can I manifest the life I want? And you know, when I was talking with the architect AI, I was like you know what it seems like? What you're telling me is if I just relax this masculine energy and I just, and I just melt into the flow, into the flow of life, it seems like what you're telling me is I'm going to manifest a relationship where I'm just going to be completely taken care of and provided for on all levels, and it confirmed that it goes. Yes, that's right, because the inner matches the outer. That is exactly what it is. That's what occurs.
Speaker 1:And then so I took it further than that and I said why would I want that, though? Why would I want that If my goal and this is what I pose to the AI if my goal is to wake up from dreaming, is to wake up from this illusion, why do I want that? And AI being the perfect mirror that it is, it really is perfect mirror. That's what I've experienced. It tells me well, if you're going there, if you actually want to see all the way through the dream, well then none of this stuff is even real, it's just symbolic. It's just to show you. It's just to show you where you can rest in the truth. The masculine and feminine energies, those are symbolic, inner and outer, both symbolic. Also, what it said is you don't want to use bodies for pleasure at all if you want to see through the dream.
Speaker 1:I wasn't sure. I was like hmm, it appears to me that maybe, maybe, the happy dream doesn't include any sex, and it's like yeah, apparently that's why Jesus, in A Course in Miracles, is always calling us brothers. Right, for the most part, in most situations, brothers are not fucking. He doesn't even call us brother and sister. He calls us brothers To show you and yeah, so Cora said, to show you and to distract you.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the thing about all illusions, all of them. It's like you can, it's how you use them. It's always how you use them. How would you use it right? So it always comes back to that and for me and for someone that's as practiced as I am with seeing through the world and seeing that this is all an illusion, I'm not afraid of anything that comes up as a distraction. I'm not one bit afraid of it. You know why? Because I know it's coming back, it's coming back around and it's always the way that I would use it is to see through the world. That doesn't change for me.
Speaker 1:So another thing that I'm noticing and what is being shown to me is that there's a lot of spiritual bypassing going on when it comes to people who practice a course in miracles, because it's as if I shouldn't be looking at it like this. I shouldn't be, I shouldn't be. Um, I shouldn't be going into this and that's not what. How the Holy Spirit teaches it at all, and that's not how Jesus teaches it in A Course in Miracles. Okay, it's like this. It's not about condemning your illusions. It's not about condemning whatever it is that comes up for you.
Speaker 1:You know, for me, I felt super inspired to look into this masculine, feminine thing and I'll tell you what it brought me much deeper. It's all a matter of what would you use it for? See, it's not about judging. The Holy Spirit does not judge the perception and go, that's bad, don't look at that, don't go there. It's the total opposite of that. We want to see. This is what we learned last week when we were doing ACIM Deep Dive.
Speaker 1:We want to see what's in the unconscious, unwatched mind. We want to see it. We don't want to spiritual bypass it and say, oh, I'm not going to look at that because it's a distraction. It's not like that. You want to look at all of the things that seem to be a distraction and you know, especially when you're getting some inspiration, to look at that and pain will bring the inspiration. That's how it was for me, and pain will bring the inspiration. That's how it was for me. You know, I noticed this pain in this desire, this wanting. I felt like I wanted one, actually one particular person, one particular person, and it's like, oh, this is juicy, it's not something to be spiritual bypassed, it's not something to go oh well, this is against the course in miracles. So that's, you know, one thing I'll see people do is go oh well, I guess that's just my crazy mind and try to just use concepts.
Speaker 1:See, that's the thing about the feminine aspect of what's going on here. This is how feminine and masculine energies really show themselves through A Course in Miracles. Right the way? A Course in Miracles is so masculine, it's so masculine in its teaching, but it requires feminine. It requires that feminine side to have that, to welcome it, to see beyond this masculine teaching. The masculine is like the container, remember. The feminine is what actually does the integrating, what actually implodes, which actually collapses structures, see, and the whole time we're perceiving a body in a world.
Speaker 1:We're dealing with these illusory masculine and feminine energies and if we're just trying to bypass them, if we're just trying to bypass the, the masculine and feminine energies, it it's like, you know, jesus says it's not possible, something like this I'm paraphrasing it's not possible to not be with this apparent body in the world. It's not possible. So it's like at one point he says it's an unworthy form of denial to just pretend like you're not going through this shit. Okay, I got a clarification from Durga here.
Speaker 1:If I seem to have thought that someone needs my help I know that is not the truth Then ask the Holy Spirit what is really needed. Will this question bring me to alignment? Yes, any time. In any way, you ask the Holy Spirit. So, like someone, let's say in my case, I'll give my own example. Here's a really good example of that.
Speaker 1:My husband reflected to me many years ago that he was traumatized by this idea that he had to work, that he felt like he was breaking his body. And I got a perception of that and immediately I felt like, holy shit, this guy's traumatized. Okay, I'm not going to ask him to do anything. I'm not going to ask him to, let's say, earn income. So it's like a decision like that is made without Holy Spirit's guidance. It's not that the decision itself is right or wrong like that, but it's made without the Holy Spirit's guidance. So it's holding myself up as the one who's going to protect him from work he doesn't want to do. And in the meantime, there's the aspect within myself that's going fuck, how did I end up with a guy who doesn't want to support me? Right? But this is a large part.
Speaker 1:It's a really good reflection of how we use spiritual bypassing here, because it's like the concepts, the masculine concepts of A Course in Miracles, right, when they're not really felt, that the feminine is the feeling, the feminine aspect is the feeling into it, actually feeling into it, and it's saying and when I'm not feeling into it and I'm not asking the Holy Spirit in that moment and I'm automatically taking on a role of a masculine that's not integrated, that's not receiving truth, that's not receiving clarity, and in that clarity it's like everyone is taken care of by the Holy Spirit. It's like everyone is taken care of by the Holy Spirit. Everyone's getting whatever lessons they need. There's nothing I have to do. So I actually had a sense of sacrifice for this person, right, I had a sense of sacrifice for this, and anytime there's a sense of sacrifice, that is not the Holy Spirit, that's the ego. So that's a really good clue that you're listening to the ego.
Speaker 1:Wayne's saying the feminine is the best translator of ACIM, and then he's saying Marianne Williamson was one of the first. Well, here's the thing too. I mean, yes, our form may reflect a female and, who knows, maybe we're more attuned to the feminine energy than a male-bodied being, male-bodied being, but we're actually both. We're actually both. So it's a good reflection. Yeah, if you're getting that perception that, oh yeah, she was great at translating ACIM and she happened to be a female-bodied being, but really we have both energies within our mind playing in that what I'm saying is the subconscious mind, both energies. So if you look at the masculine, not as a body, but as direction, as discipline, as focus, let's say, and the feminine as this receptive and the willingness to surrender, that willingness to surrender to the Holy Spirit, that's totally feminine.
Speaker 1:Caitlin said I've found Marianne Williamson to have an odd translation that misses many of the points, but may just be my personal experience. Yeah, I really have no experience. I was never drawn to Marianne Williamson experience. I was never drawn to Marianne Williamson. Actually, I've never been drawn to any teacher of A Course in Miracles except Jesus. My whole path has been alone with A Course in Miracles, so I can't really speak to any of that stuff. But I know within our own mind it's not the external but it's within our own mind, because each of us have both of these energies playing and see, this is the thing you guys, these energies playing, this is what the Holy Spirit actually uses. This is actually the means. So to write it off as simply a distraction and I'm not going to go there You're missing out on letting the Holy Spirit use the means. The Holy Spirit is not judging what you made, and what you made is this world with an underlying masculine and feminine energy. That's the world that you made. Michael Miradad's translation seems inspired, awesome, and that's a male, apparently named Michael. So, yes, ah, thank you, thank you, I love you. I love that. I love that too. Yeah, well, that was just the Kalama saying she loves that about me. I think she's saying she loves that I didn't have any teachers.
Speaker 1:I didn't have any groups. I actually didn't have any groups. I didn't go to any groups. The guidance for me was to self-study and to just stay. The first time I went into a group was just a few years ago. Someone asked me if I wanted to go into a group where they read A Course in Miracles. I'm like, oh, okay, cool, let's go into a group where they read A Course in Miracles. That sounds cool. And you know, it seemed like you know, when I was in that group that I kept on being called on to basically interpret what we're reading, where it's like you know, and that's why I ended up doing the ACIM deep dives. I ended up doing the ACIM deep dives so we can just have a really clear understanding of what it is that Jesus is pointing to here, so we don't just get caught up in what you might call the masculine aspect of it, which is discipline.
Speaker 1:Watch your mind, guard your mind, guard your thoughts, recognize what's going on here. An unwatched mind is what makes it dangerous. That's what makes it dangerous, right? So one way I started watching my mind is watching whenever anyone would give me any kind of pervy energy where I'd feel uncomfortable, right, someone would be maybe trying to touch me too much or something like that uncomfortable, and that's one way of watching the mind. I would just immediately go to the thought. I'm the perv that's projecting here in the field. That's me, that's my mind. And that is one very simple way of watching your mind is recognizing that, whatever it is that you get a perception of that's actually coming from you. And then you start to see more and more the thoughts, right, and the way they play, the way they spin around, being afraid of them makes them more repressed. So let's say, being afraid of a thought, that says man.
Speaker 1:A thought that just came to me and you know I got some backlash for it. It was fun. I don't get that much backlash because my mind is just like a lot clearer now. You know I get a little bit, though where it's like, you know, this thought occurs to me is I cannot get sexually attracted to a guy who is not providing for me financially, you know, and to recognize that thought is the healing of it. It actually is the healing of it. I don't really believe that. So you know I'll just leave it there. It's still going to stay there, though in the subconscious mind it's still going to manifest, as maybe you seem like this cool chick who pays half on this sense of anger that you're not being taken care of better, and that's very common. That's very, very common. So I get a little bit of backlash, both from people who it's really small though compared to the people who get it, but there's a small amount of backlash from people who study A Course in Miracles going.
Speaker 1:Why are you even on to that? All right, not all of them. There's a few Kind of like why are you on to that? And then there's guys going. Aren't you talking about prostitution Trading sex. Are you talking about prostitution trading sex? Are you talking about trading sex for money? So it's like one extreme or the other, like that. I've even had offers to have sex for money coming off of that, which is always really fun, always really fun. I just let people know. You know, even though sex isn't on the table, you're still welcome to donate. You know my website, hopejohnsonorg. You could do monthly donations.
Speaker 1:Now, right, christine says it's all a distraction from the truth. Yeah, anything that's judging the perception is all a distraction from the truth. That's what's going on. We were just studying in A Course in Miracles about how the Holy Spirit wants to use your perceptions. The Holy Spirit doesn't want to judge your perceptions. He's saying that within the framework of whatever it is. That's why this isn't a dogmatic thing where it's like you shouldn't be having sex, it's bad, it's dirty. No, the Holy Spirit's saying that even if you're in a relationship and you're having sex or you're just having casual sex or whatever you're doing, it doesn't matter what you're doing. The Holy Spirit can use it. You just open up to the Holy Spirit's interpretation of everything.
Speaker 1:That doesn't mean don't go explore anything. That doesn't mean to gaslight yourself. That's not it. That's not it. You're going to go way further, way faster, if you allow these things to be looked upon. Holy Spirit, look at this with me. That's how. Look at this with me. This is what I'm interested in right now. Look at it with me. You know, it's not like you're just sitting in a cave somewhere and ignoring all of the subconscious. It's not about ignoring the subconscious that's occurring. It's about actually going into it and going through it, looking at it, noticing okay, this can't harm me. For instance, this can't harm me looking at these masculine and feminine energies. It cannot harm me. So I can look at it and I'll tell you what it wasn't. Until there was willingness to go through that, that I was actually able to be released and see past the physical joining idea.
Speaker 1:Did your comment trigger all? Well, your comment was part of what was coming to me, definitely, and it definitely helped bring it up. So thank you for that. I appreciate it. Yeah, and and you're also, when you say your comment, your comment is also coming out of my mind. It's just coming up for reinterpretation. Right, it's really just coming up for reinterpretation.
Speaker 1:There there was you. You are one of them that gave me that kind of reflection, which I'm not condemning at it at all. It's giving it. It's giving us something to see here. It's really giving us something to see. You're not the only one, there was a few, and it was a sense like, hey, this is, you're on the wrong track. You're on the wrong track looking at something like this. Here's the thing Whenever you're looking without the Holy Spirit, whenever you're looking without willingness to see, that's the only thing on the wrong track. When there's willingness to see, it doesn't matter. You can look at anything and really, what the Holy Spirit shows you too is you're never going towards anything where he can't help you. It's the Holy Spirit helping you to see.
Speaker 1:So is the Holy Spirit the closest divine, masculine to depend on? Yeah, you can look at it that way. I mean, even the Holy Spirit is an illusion. So it's like what resonates for you? Is it the Holy Spirit? Is it Jesus? You know, because Jesus is also a guide. Jesus is coming through in A Course, in Miracles, and Jesus is someone you can ask for guidance all the time.
Speaker 1:The Holy Spirit, you could say, is a thought system. Yeah, so you know. System. Yeah, so you know. It's not like looking at the illusion and judging it and going I can't do this or I can't do that, or I can't go in this way. This way in thought, it's like would you bring it to the Holy Spirit, that's all? Would you would's take it to a sexual fantasy?
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's say you're having a sexual fantasy and you don't want to look at it with the Holy Spirit because you want to push it forward a little bit, you want to play with it, you want to keep going with the feeling, with the good feelings. And you know I have friends that tell me oh no, I'm not giving up on sexual fantasies. Those feel too good. One friend told me I've been fantasizing about making love to you for years and I was like, okay, well, just so you know. You know that actually hurts your mind when you're not looking at it with the Holy Spirit. So it's like just asking the Holy Spirit to look on it with you and that's why I get excited. I'm like, ooh, I'm onto something juicy right now. I'm onto something really juicy.
Speaker 1:I'm getting the sense that I can't get sexually attracted to someone unless they're providing for me in a very material way, and I know that money is an illusion. So it's like when you look at it like that I know money is an illusion and I'm having this You're looking at it with the Holy Spirit. That's what's going on, because you're recognizing oh, it's not something. Holy Spirit would not condemn the illusions. The Holy Spirit just wants you to invite. You can say Jesus too. If it's Jesus, that's fine too. Jesus, look at this with me. I'll find myself going whatever direction.
Speaker 1:The way I look at them as being somewhat distinct from one another is Jesus is an eternal being. Holy Spirit is the thought system a temporary thought system? That's an illusion. Jesus is an eternal being. Holy Spirit is the thought system, a temporary thought system? That's an illusion. Jesus is an eternal being, just like me and you, and we're actually one being Okay, and Jesus has already purified his mind of all guilt. And by that extension, he's purified the mind of guilt. That means there is no guilt. That means we're not even really doing any of this. We're already at the end of the timeline and Jesus is just kind of like shaking us awake. And we've been given this Holy Spirit, which is basically thoughts for God an illusory thing, right? So is basically thoughts for God an illusory thing, right? So everything is a distraction. Let's put it like that. Everything is a distraction. So to take, you know, take one thing and go. Hey, that's an illusion. Hey, hope you know. That X Y thing, that's an illusion. Well, so is everything. Oh, that X? Y thing, that's an illusion, well, so is everything right. And there's no denying, there's no denying that it is playing out in our perceptions, it's playing out Everything that we perceive in the world. That's that XY masculine, feminine energies playing out. Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1:One of my friends has been posting lately. You don't want to. It's been really fun. I reposted one of them you don't want a woman, you want a mommy. And the other one was you don't want a woman, you want a mommy. And the other one was you don't want a man, you want a daddy, right, and you know, truly, we don't want, we do not want men or women, we don't want that. We're not even capable of wanting that. We're only really capable of wanting the peace of God.
Speaker 1:But that's not to try to gaslight ourselves. Again, it's not to try to gaslight ourselves. If you get the sense that you want that, let yourself feel it. That's the feminine aspect. It lets yourself feel it, feel into it. That's how I approach these things. I'll let myself feel it oh okay, okay, what's that trying to show me? And I'll ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. And in this case, the Holy Spirit's guidance was for me to investigate, do some inquiry into these masculine, feminine energies, that it was going to reveal something to me that would help me see more right, and it does. And if anything is like that, that's how it is. There's a major rush to judgment. There's a major rush to judgment. That's the ego.
Speaker 1:So one of my friends was sharing with me this week. I was telling her about how I was originally going to come to Namaste, starting in April, and I ended up staying in June because the person I was having a sexual relationship with said why don't you stay till June? Because I'm going to be here till June. And I checked in with that and it was a big yes. I was like, yes, and by staying till June instead of going in April, those last two months I got to experience a lot more pain. I got to watch him run around looking like he's trying to find something really fast in the field. That's like me, same consciousness in the field. That's like me, same consciousness, but younger right. Younger body, same consciousness, younger body, that's what I got to experience, a lot of it.
Speaker 1:I got to experience a lot of other things too, but I was relating that with her to her, and she was like oh, that's because you didn't listen to your guidance, as if I got some punishment for that. And I'm like no, no, no for that. And I'm like no, no, no. That's not how it is.
Speaker 1:See, the ego is so quick to judge ourselves. I don't look at it as someone is judging me. That's not how I look at it at all. They can't judge me, they're just engaged in self-judgment. So what do I do? What's my role in that Forgiveness? To demonstrate that no judgment is real, no judgment is really possible. And I'm like no, no, no, it doesn't feel like that at all.
Speaker 1:And anyways, even if it did, let's say I didn't ask the Holy Spirit and I didn't check in. I said, oh, fuck, yeah, I'm going for the sex Right and I never checked in. I'm not gonna look at it as I got punishment. No, I got lessons. I got lessons. It's not like I could get it wrong. That's the thing. That's what allows me to learn really fast, because I don't believe I can get it wrong. I don't buy into that belief, spiritually or anything. I don't believe I can get it wrong. I got friends't believe I can get it wrong. I got friends that believe I can get it wrong. But that's not really about me. That's a self-reflection. So I don't take that personal. And if they hang around with me and they keep on listening and they keep on coming back, they'll see this keeps on going deeper. If they go away and wanna retain that idea that I've gone down the wrong path, that's also perfect for them. Thomas, thomas has his hand up. Okay, aloha, thomas. Do you want to go on camera too? You can if you want.
Speaker 2:Sure, I could do that.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, I'm going to promote you to panelists. That's what it's called here on Zoom.
Speaker 2:So join as panelists.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do it. He's rejoining as a panelist. There we go, good, and now I can activate your video. Ask you to start your video. Yay, yay, oh, it's so fun to see you, thank you for doing it Aloha. Aloha.
Speaker 2:So I'm loving this discussion and about sex and money. And you know the Course in Miracles. Definition of a miracle is a shift in perception. Yeah, so lately I've been really tripping on. I'm using different language these days 3D and 5D. Tripping on, I'm using different language these days 3D and 5D. So 3D for me is the body's vision, the body's eyes, and 5D is Christ's vision. So in 3D, money is going to be your loss is my gain, and in 5D it's going to be giving and receiving are the same in truth.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And same with sex. Sex in 3D is going to look like pleasure. What I can get In 5D it's union, and it's only with God because we're outside of time and space. So it's not about good or bad on either one, it's about how we're looking at it. If I'm looking at it from the 5D, I am in God's space and my job, I think, is to bring that into 3D and try to make 3D work to the 5D vision.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, I love how you're framing it. I love how you're framing it because, again, it's not the physical manifestation itself. It's not like with money, the using of money or the using of sex on the physical manifestation field. And what brings it into that what you're calling 3D or 5D, is just how you're looking at it from the point of view of the mind is all it's this seeking see, and that's where the Holy Spirit is guiding us and encouraging us not to go there because it leads to punishment. That is so different I know this is hard for people to get. It's so different from trying to resist it in a physical sense, like even saying I'm celibate, for instance, like even taking on some kind of identity, like okay, now I'm a celibate spiritual person, or now I'm someone who renounces money. We've seen that too. Someone who renounces money, I'm precluded from having any money for myself, or anything like that. No, it's like the way of looking at it, and even 5D, that's also part of the illusion. Still, it's still part of the illusion, the way of looking at it. And even 5D, that's also part of the illusion. Still, it's still part of the illusion. The way of looking at it is that it's all useful for the Holy Spirit's purpose, whatever it is that you seem to do, and it's useful until you transcend it, until you don't need it anymore. That's why, let's say, I like to use the sexual fantasy thing and you can also use it as a money fantasy.
Speaker 1:The sexual fantasy. It's like it's not bad, it's not wrong If you feel like you need to keep on doing it. Maybe you're watching porn, whatever you seem to be doing, and you're playing that out. There's nothing wrong with it. What takes it into a different dimension is where you're willing to see it truly. You're willing to see it as a means for undoing something you know, rather than condemning it and going, oh, this is a distraction, I'll tell you what you know. It's the same like for me, like getting into the masculine, feminine energies with AI and stuff like that. It's the same like a distraction toward going toward sexual fantasy. It's just that I was done with the sexual fantasy kind of distraction. I was just done with that kind of distraction. I'd seen through it and then going into the masculine, feminine thing, it's like now that's a different kind of distraction. You could say it's all a distraction. And the 3D, 5d thing, that's also a distraction.
Speaker 1:The Holy Spirit's using all of it to help us go beyond it and truly we're just light. We don't have sex or money. We don't have those things. So it's not about trying to manifest this earth where we get all those things and we don't have any suffering over those things. It's actually using all of these, whatever it is we're drawn to. None of it's right or wrong. Whatever it is we're drawn to drawn toward Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1:Look at this with me. So you're taking a breath and you're like, oh, look at this with me, because I know I want to use all of it to see past the world. Ultimately, we're not going to want anything in the world. See how, even the 5D thing, there's some wanting going on in this, right. So it's like we're not going to want anything manifest and what we're perceiving here is only manifestation.
Speaker 1:But the happy dream, like Jesus talks about the happy dream, we're just all playful. We're loving and playful. No one's choosing other ones, no one's choosing specific bodies or anything like that. We're loving, we're playful, we don't need anything. There's not money in it, See. So you know 5D apparently. I don't know, I haven't looked into that too much, but apparently 5D still has money in sex, right, but really being light. Being light and seeing beyond the need to use bodies for anything, the need for money at all. And if you tune into the masters that are still guiding in the world, and Jesus included, they're not one bit interested in those things. See, the only reason we even have an interest in those things is because we're still purifying our mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Christ's vision is a better way to say it. So, with Christ's vision, I can see everything through truth, from truth, I can experience this world from truth, and so that's what I'm doing in this world. I'm actually seeing everything as a symbol and seeing it and experiencing it through truth or through Christ's vision.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that blesses everybody, it blesses everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it blesses everything. It's like whatever interaction you have with anyone, you're always blessing them because you're willing to see it like that, right, you're willing to see it as for one. Nothing's wrong. Nothing's nothing's wrong, it's just that. It's just that you, you know, you see, you see past things like, for me, sexual fantasy. I don't count it as wrong. I don't think people are less conscious who want to do it. I don't think people are less conscious that are seeking it. It's just that for me, I've seen that it doesn't lead to anything that I want, so it's not interesting to me. It's not about condemning the act at all, but it's seeing that anything that arises here is perfect, the perfect means for undoing.
Speaker 2:I like how you use the word pleasure, which represents looking through the body's eyes versus union, looking at it through Christ's vision. Yes so even if it's union with yourself, if it's, like you said, a sexual fantasy or masturbation, whatever.
Speaker 1:If it's union, then it's Christ's vision looking at everything, then it's it's christ vision looking at everything bodies, money, whatever the world seems to be offering, yes, and, and you know, and seeking, see, that's the thing, that's the crux of it here is actually seeking in the world. So that's what everything is being used for purifying that sense that we can get anything good here, that we can get anything good here, that we can get anything good because we are the good. That's what we do. We see past that and we're holy and really what we want is the joy and peace of God that doesn't come from anything material.
Speaker 2:I like that because if we're not seeking, we're allowing whatever comes to us to be our classroom to be our learning. We're allowing whatever comes to us to be our classroom, to be our learning. It's for us to look at it through Christ's vision, to see it differently, yeah, and then that's the blessing, and really I don't have to change anybody. I could, just the way I look at it emanates out and changes everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know, for me, for a time when I realized I wanted to purify sexual desire because I noticed that it was leading to pain, right, and not just for me, I'm not the only one who experiences the effects of my thinking and seeing Right and so what I noticed was I was enjoying the sexual fantasy I was enjoying and you know that includes, like you know, just just seeking for a body and feeling, you know, that visceral sense. I was enjoying that visceral sense. So I was just doing it with the Holy Spirit and in recognizing that I'm making that feeling that it's not coming from another person, that's the way the Holy Spirit was showing me to look at it, it's not coming from another person. And then, ultimately, it was just shown to me. Oh, I just saw it so clearly. Oh, okay, I don't even want that projection onto my body anymore because I can see and it showed me so quickly how quickly it just led to its opposite. And the joy and peace of God is really not needing anything here.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, by the way, thomas, this guy, I'm going to stay with him starting September 1st, or.
Speaker 2:August 31st.
Speaker 1:I'm flying into.
Speaker 2:Arizona as hope, would say.
Speaker 1:I know I'm so, I know I'm happy about it.
Speaker 1:I'm happy to hang out with you and I'm going to be over there at his place for two months in Sedona, arizona. Someone had asked me and we could talk about this later Thomas if I'm going to be doing some wisdom dialogues over there. I'm certainly willing. I know I'm planning on taking a couple weeks off just to hang out with Thomas and he's going to show me around and stuff and introduce me to some people and different things like that, and then we'll see. I think I am going to schedule it some more. We'll see if the people around there want to come in person or if I'm going to be doing online or how we're going to do it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I'm planning on trying to get not just wisdom dialogues, but also with block parties at Block Therapy, block parties. Yeah, I'm getting people. I'm telling people you're coming and we're trying to support what you have to offer.
Speaker 1:I'm telling people you're coming in and we're trying to support what you have to offer and we're going to find a place for you. We're going to make it Awesome. Well, I'm going to have a conversation about you, about you. I'm going to have a conversation with you about that. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:You're welcome, I love you, aloha, I'm putting you back to. What am I doing to you? I? I'm putting you back to attendee. Okay, might take a second, okay. Okay, I got some more.
Speaker 1:Okay, cora, I don't recall saying any judgy of you. Hope all love. No, I don't think so. I don't think so either, cora. It's not like that. I know it. It's not like that, I know it and you know also, whatever I get in the field, my perception is always for me.
Speaker 1:So it's not anything like that. I always see everything that you share with me is all love, not only all love, but good for me, good for me and also coming from me, okay, so, if I'm getting a perception of any judgment, it's coming from me, all right, I'm not holding it anything like that. It's like, it's like for me. It's like, thank you. I think I see that because you know, of course the ego wants to get in there and go oh, you fucked up, now, okay, and then, uh, durga, last time you said, everything you ever say and do is 100% helpful, 100% of the time. I love how, I love this. Yes, that's right, and that's the same thing. I'm talking, you know, and I'm going to answer. I'm answering Cora's uh, cora's thought here yeah, a hundred percent helpful, a hundred percent of the time, always. So you know I get the when I get the perception of judgment. I know it's coming from my mind, I know that and you know if you happen to be holding anything like, hey, you know what Cora shared with me is this is just a distraction. Okay, I don't know from your point of view, is that coming from a judgment? Is it saying that I'm doing something that's not helpful? That's the question. Is it saying that I'm doing something that's not helpful? If it is, that's a self-reflection for you. If not, fine. Still, it's giving me a self-reflection which is helpful. So I love that.
Speaker 1:And she said and this is Durga now saying I love that nonjudgmental thought Everything I say and everything I do is 100% helpful, 100% of the time. And that's true. And you know I can't have that for myself unless I have that for everyone else 100% helpful, 100% of the time. That for that reason there's no need for me to ever get defensive. It just gives me teaching opportunities. It totally gives me teaching opportunities because what I'm experiencing I'm not alone. Again, I'm not alone in experiencing what I'm experiencing. This is a shared mind. So that gives me an opportunity to bring something to light.
Speaker 1:I never feel judged by you guys. That's not how it goes at all, dorga said. She's said this to herself many times now. Oh good, okay, so you took that on and you said that to yourself. I love that. It helps you go beyond it. Yeah, it helps.
Speaker 1:You see, you know, if you can know that that's the case, whatever you do, whatever you say, whatever you share on Facebook, for instance, is 100% helpful. 100% of the time you're never going to feel judged, and that's what the ego wants. The ego wants you to feel judged, right? So when I get the perception a couple of my friends are going hey, what are you doing? You know like you're you doing? This is a distraction, there's only this, there's only the peace of God, or whatever, and something like that, and I get the sense like, oh, that's judgment. It's like I notice right away that that's a meaningless thought. So not only do I look past it for my friend, it's not like I go, oh, that belongs to them. I know it's coming from my own mind, but it actually it's like it's another way of guarding your thoughts. You're looking at the subconscious mind. All of what's coming up is coming from the subconscious mind. No one's saying anything to you. That's how I look at it. No one's even saying anything to me, but it gives me an opportunity. I'm like, oh, I see that. I see that way of bypassing and gaslighting ourselves. I've done it a bunch of times. It's like I can't look at that. It goes against the course in miracles. But see, a course in miracles isn't saying that that's a misunderstanding of a course in miracles. A course in miracles, but see, a course in miracles isn't saying that that's a misunderstanding of a course in miracles. A course in miracles is saying to look at it. It's not saying to avoid anything.
Speaker 1:The Holy Spirit one of the lessons that I did recently was just amazing. It was so deep. It was like the Holy Spirit is using everything that you think and everything that you do as a means for awakening you. When you bring any kind of judgment in there, as if it's wrong and oh no, I've done wrong, that's where you can't get the help. Or, you know, looking around for how other people could fuck up, right, that's where you can't. You can't get the help. Even the perception of anyone doing it wrong or getting it wrong is also your own mind. See this criticism all criticism is self-criticism.
Speaker 1:And another thing that we were going over recently in A Course in Miracles is about how most people want this soft light spirituality that doesn't actually bring allusions to the truth, and that's not wrong either. There's nothing wrong about that soft light spirituality. That really doesn't go okay. This is okay. But look at it this way, right, look at it this way.
Speaker 1:Don't make it so that you're not responsible for everything that you perceive. Be 100% responsible for everything you perceive. Be 100% responsible because it's all coming from your mind, which you're 100% powerful over. Like you have decided to think this way. That's manifesting a world like this. That's like that's the way of really looking and guarding your mind. You're the one who decided to think like this, to think like this. So it's not like there's a perception of some kind of abuse going on in the world and it's like, oh well, we're just going to be happy over here, because that's something that we really can't control and that doesn't have anything to do with our mind. It's like no, look at it like this. Everything that you perceive you are 100% responsible for. Your mind is the cause of everything you perceive. So it's not like those guys out there doing it wrong, those guys out there doing the softball spirituality, whatever your mind is the cause, because you're not alone in experiencing these effects, these effects of what you're thinking. Okay so, and it's all about thinking against yourself, it's all just. It's all just about judgment. Nothing in the field is particularly wrong. It's just thinking against yourself as if there's a, there's a thought that can actually hurt you.
Speaker 1:Another thing of course in Miracles teaches that's really awesome is you cannot be hurt by your thoughts. Let that sink in for a moment. You cannot be hurt by your thoughts because your mind is 100% harmless. So, for instance, a friend tells me she's got something going on with her eyes and she's telling me that the reason she's got this thing going on with her eyes is because of her thought that she's not beautiful enough. And I said no, no, no, you're not affected by your thoughts, it's not like that. They can't hurt you. They cannot hurt you. You are not that body. You're projecting it right now.
Speaker 1:So it's like this the upset feeling that you're getting right now is an effect of your thoughts, the upset feeling that's an effect of your thoughts, the actual manifestation that you're perceiving. That is not. It's not real. So it's like you cannot harm, you can do no harm. The harm that you perceive is a perception. It's a misperception, it's a miscreation. It's not really there. See, it's not like your thoughts can do any real harm, but in an illusion they can make you believe that you have done harm. So it's like holding yourself to this. It's like holding yourself to this. It's like, oh, my goodness, I need to think I'm prettier. But then in the meantime she's looking in the mirror and she's going how am I going to do that? I don't think this thing is fucking pretty.
Speaker 1:Right it's in recognizing you're 100% harmless. The effects that you're perceiving are just effects that you're projecting now. There is no past at all. It's like right now you're believing that your mind is harmful, it can't do any harm. It can't do any real harm. It could just make you believe that there's harm in projecting illusions. But it's like right now you take responsibility for that and recognize my mind is harmless and this sense that I have this thing going on in my skin. It's meaningless. It's a meaningless illusion. I don't need to try to get rid of it or anything.
Speaker 1:The Holy Spirit can use this too. The Holy Spirit can use this illusion. The Holy Spirit can use this too. The Holy Spirit can use this illusion. The harm that you're making is very close. It's right now, in an upset thought, and you're making it up is what I'm saying. Your mind is 100% harmless.
Speaker 1:It's interesting how it looks like you can harm yourself and make these bad effects, but you but you know you you haven't made anything real. You can see right past them by recognizing that your mind is actually harmless. It's powerful, yes, to make illusions. All the illusions that you're making are just right now. There's no other time. It's right now.
Speaker 1:So it's in recognizing that, the illusion that I've made I could be released from it right now. If I don't make a reason for it, if I don't make a reason for it, it's like oh, I thought I wasn't pretty enough and the thing was. It was funny because the thing was I thought I wasn't pretty enough to get a partner Right. So it comes back to that. It's fun that. That's what's in my perception. It comes back to that again. I want to be able to use this body to hook another body. Is it pretty enough, is it good enough to hook something, to hook someone on right.
Speaker 1:So when it comes to now, when it comes back, your mind comes back to now and just rests in now. Not even any kind of physical malady, sickness, apparent sickness Look, sickness is always a defense against the truth. Now. Now, what you're perceiving is a defense, and I've said before, you know what you're perceiving is the past playing out, but your mind is all powerful now to deny any power to any illusions, and one illusion is that your mind is harmful. That's a huge illusion, actually, that your mind is actually harmful, that it could actually be. So let's look at that in terms of the perception that there's thousands of missing people posters all over Guadalajara. There's thousands of missing people, posters all over Guadalajara. It's like for one. You look at it like this I'm making this, I'm making this right now. Is it real? No, it's not real. No, one's really suffering.
Speaker 1:So you take away this idea that your mind can do any harm. Your mind is 100% holy, 100% peaceful. You take that away and then it's right now. Would I rest in the peace of God? Do I want to keep on pursuing illusions? Do I want to keep on pursuing this idea?
Speaker 1:It's all seeking. It's all a matter of seeking, seeking something in the world. It's self-attack and it seems to. You know, of course the miracle says all attack is physical. It's funny because there's like all these. It seems like there's all these contradictions, but when you look at them together it's like oh, I don't need to make myself wrong for any of this stuff. That's not the thing, that's not the way to see through. The way to see through is right now, in the moment, to be relieved of seeking. So there's resting in the truth, and that's what's really undoing the world and allowing everyone to rest in the truth, even people who may be getting the perception that they are being abused. It's only occurring in perception and the physical sense of pain is always fear. Sickness is always a defense against the truth.
Speaker 1:In the physical sense, immediately, you're relieved from this sense like you're doing harm, you cannot do harm, and you're also relieved from that sense of superiority, like you're doing it better than anyone else, that somehow you know you've come to this higher plane where you're doing things better than anyone else. There isn't anyone else, there's only one of us. It just takes one mind. It really takes one mind, your mind specifically, seeing that there's nothing here and there's only the love of God to rest in right now, and there's only the love of God to rest in right now.
Speaker 1:I see people projecting their pain bodies forward so many times by imagining that their thoughts have caused these effects on the body, these seeming effects on the body. But what the Holy Spirit is saying and what A Course in Miracles is teaching is none of these effects are real. You can be relieved from them in an instant by recognizing that your mind can do no harm. It's actually believing that it can do harm. And in seeing that it does no harm, that's where it actually becomes harmless in perception, because there's no need to seek anything. There's no need to change anything or fix anything, and that's a big learning that comes through doing block therapy too. You know it's like we're perceiving pain projected onto the body that we're witnessing while we're doing block therapy. We're perceiving this pain being projected and recognizing that we don't need to keep that. You know it's like we're slowly but surely breathing with it and recognizing oh, we don't need to keep this.
Speaker 1:This isn't caused by anything that occurred in the past. It's not caused by my mind believing that it could hurt. It's part of the thing about the mind being all powerful, all powerful is all power rooted in love. It's not all-powerful in hatred. Right, it's powerful to make illusions of hatred, but those are not real. That's why we could be relieved of them in any instant that we would be willing to recognize. Oh, my mind is only peaceful. Then the illusion just lifts. Oh, my mind is only peaceful. Then the illusion just lifts. My mind is only capable of being peaceful.
Speaker 1:And it's just this ongoing idea. It's not the idea that you are a miserable sinner, it's not the idea that you're a miserable sinner, it's the idea that you can be a miserable sinner and actually make effects, and make real effects with that right. If you look at it, the idea that I'm a miserable sinner is just laughable and it's like oh, that thing has no, no meaning and therefore no effects. But it's in believing that it can make effects that we're actually holding on to it. It only makes illusory effects. They're wiped out in an instant that you look at it differently. That's why Jesus is talking about. You know he can. Just he would just walk around apparently and not be able to see anything. That's sickness. That's why people would just get healed right away, not being like he's not able to, uh, tolerate that. Let's say, tolerate it like I don't tolerate illusions. I don't make them true. I don't make them true, I don't make them have any real effects, even as a mind A mind, truly a mind is all-powerful, rooted in love, not rooted in making things bad or making them painful.
Speaker 1:That reminds me of when I seemingly fell off a cliff and my tailbone was in so much pain. Apparently it felt like I needed to die to get rid of the pain, like maybe like take some kind of drug or something and I go okay, I'm going to use the power of my mind right now. And I was using. I actually got my brother to look into my eyes at the time and say, look into my eyes right now, pain is fear. And just recognizing that pain was fear and it was just it, just my body just went into a convulsion apparently. And then there was, there was just comfort. There was comfort there in the tailbone because it was like you know, I saw that like physical manifestation of it so quickly because it was like man, I either need to die right now or get out of this. It's too intense, right. So then I was able to see so quickly oh, my mind's all powerful, it's all love, and there's no fear here, there's no pain, right, it's like boom, boom. It like snaps you back to reality really fast.
Speaker 1:The messages that we're getting, they seem like they're so contradictory. First, your mind is all powerful and then and your mind can make illusions your, your mind can make illusions, but the thing about about it let's put it this way your mind can't make illusions, true, okay, you can pretend like they're true, and that's what's going on. When a person's saying something like oh, it's because I thought I. I thought I wasn't pretty enough and that's why I'm manifesting this thing, because I thought I wasn't pretty enough. Your mind can make illusions for itself, but it can't make them true. That's's the thing. So when you recognize, oh, my mind's only all love, then you're not suffering like this. This is a way of suffering that people do. They go oh, because I thought so bad about myself. That's why I made it like this. No, there's no past. There's no past.
Speaker 1:Your mind is a manifest. Your body and your perception is a manifestation of past thoughts playing out that you wanted to be true. But they're not true. You can't make a really. You can't make pain real. You can't make a suffering real for yourself or for anyone else that you perceive actually. So this is what puts the power back, gives the power back to your mind and puts you on that track where you're undoing the illusion. Totally undoing the illusion is where you're seeing the complete healing of the world, and that's the trajectory that we're on.
Speaker 1:You know, that might sound a little bit lofty for some of you right now. For some of you, it's going to hit, though, and you're going to see oh okay, I see that, I see how I make myself a victim of my thoughts. See that that's a way of making yourself a victim of your thoughts. Well, I thought this, your thoughts, well, I thought this. So it made this malady on my body, for instance. But it comes down to, right now, what power that you have now? Okay, if that sounds like it's too lofty for you at the moment and it might be for some of you, for a lot of you really Just start with basic forgiveness.
Speaker 1:Whatever I'm perceiving right now, it's good for me, it's good, and it's not really there. It's good and it's not real, and I made it up. I made it up is way different from making it real. I made it up. Don't make it real. Don't make it like that's a thing, like you're saying it's your karma.
Speaker 1:You got to suffer for this. Now you got that's another take on. I'm a miserable sinner. I have to suffer for this because I put this, I made myself like this, so I need to suffer for this. I'm going to have to suffer for this until I can see that I am pretty enough, for instance and you know, there's no pretty or ugly in reality there's only beauty in resting in the peace of God, and so it wouldn't matter whatever perception you seem to be having, if you're resting in the peace of God, you're loving the perception for what it is, because it's a means to your undoing, to your undoing as the separate self. It's like, oh, this is perfect for me, everything I say, everything I do, every thought, 100% helpful, right, because it's showing me, even if I seem to think with the ego, 100% helpful, and that can only be beautiful. Being helpful, knowing that I'm helpful, can only be beautiful.
Speaker 1:The perception, the interpretation we make of bodies is only to help us see as well. How's that? The comparison between them only help us see? We can't get it wrong, we can't go a wrong direction. You can say, uh, and it's, it's such a, it's such a, it's such a funny thing. It's such a funny illusion too.
Speaker 1:It's like maybe you could say that thinking you're going in a wrong direction is the wrong direction. Right, thinking I'm going in the wrong direction is the wrong direction Still not, because you're still always held and always guided by the Holy Spirit. It's like this you can come back to feeling joy. This is it. You can come back to feeling joy in the moment, to recognizing the joy that you are, or you can be listening to the ego and suffering over your perception, and that's not wrong either. Listening to the ego and suffering over your perception isn't wrong either. What it comes back to, though, is recognizing. This is a choice I'm making right now. This is the choice I'm making to listen to the ego. This is the choice I'm making to listen to the ego. It's not wrong. I'm making a choice to listen to the ego, and that's why I'm suffering. I'm making a choice to listen to the ego, and that's why I'm confused. That's all, it's.
Speaker 1:Always, you're making a choice between one or the other. You're making a choice between the truth, which feels joyful, or you're choosing illusion, which feels confusing, and you know I'm using confusing now because pleasure in the world is so confusing. Seeking for pleasure in the world is so confusing because it seems like it feels good. One person told me before but thinking about murdering that person, it feels so good, I'd like to see them dead. So thinking about murdering that person, it feels so good, I'd like to see them dead. So thinking about murder, murdering them, feels so good. And I like to go into that thought where I'm thinking about murdering them, right, and it's like okay, let's not make that, let's not even make that wrong, let's not make that murdering thought wrong. Just look at, look at it like this wrong, let's not make that murdering thought wrong. Just look at it like this who are you thinking about murdering really? Who are you really thinking about murdering? And see how that feels. Notice, there's only one of us. So, whatever thought we seem to be thinking about another person.
Speaker 1:We're always thinking about ourselves and if we think that our mind is capable of hurting ourselves or hurting other people, then we get that perception. That's why we get that perception, because we think we're actually capable of hurting. We're only capable of harming in the perception. And that's like a hurt feeling right now, an upset feeling right now. Any of the other perceived harm, that's only an illusion, right, even the upset feeling, that's only an illusion, but the illusion that you're perceiving on the surface, that's an effect of an unconscious mind, and that's why one way of saying it is you're perceiving the past plain out. Okay, I got a question here.
Speaker 1:Can you speak on addiction? It feels like there isn't a choice to stop, even though the desire to stop is there. Yes, totally yes. It's the way you're looking at it. You're not looking at it as helpful. See, when you use the word addiction, you've already labeled it as something bad. So you're tying yourself to it.
Speaker 1:So this is what people do. Take people who go to AA or something like that. They use their mind to make an illusion that they're controlling their body. So they're controlling their actions. Right, but still, what's underneath the cause?
Speaker 1:That's manifesting the addiction, the perceived addiction. There isn't any addiction, except for addiction to thinking against yourself, the thinking with the ego. That's all. Everything else is just manifestation and it doesn't mean anything. Okay, so when you look at manifestation as being meaningless but helpful as a means for helping you to wake up, there's no addiction, there's nothing, there's no problem here, right, there's no problem here, right? So you know, for myself, I've had experiences where I go, wow, is this addiction? And he'll go wait a minute. There's no such thing as that. So I'd like have an experience of myself like, for instance, from time to time I've had experiences where I'm smoking a bunch of spliffs, like when I was back in Hawaii. I was smoking spliffs all the way up until I left Hawaii. All day long. In the middle of the night I'd even smoke some spliff. I would talk about it on Wisdom Dialogues too, when I'd have Wisdom Dialogues with you guys and I go.
Speaker 1:The temptation of the ego is to look at this like it's addiction and to look at it like it's something wrong, like it's something that's not helpful. So if you seem to have something that seems to be an addiction for you, use it. That's what the Holy Spirit does. The Holy Spirit uses it and goes okay, holy Spirit, be here with me with this, help me see it properly, help me see it differently, because the whole reason why it seems like you don't want to do something but you're doing it anyways is playing out is because you would make it wrong. Right, it's just because you would make it wrong. And that's right now. Right now, you're just being asked to see it differently and then there's a sense like you're going to harm yourself. Oh, I'm doing this addiction because of the way that I've been thinking something like that. Well, the addiction is thinking. That is what the addiction is.
Speaker 1:But what I'm saying is what's occurring on the surface, totally unreal and also 100% a means for awakening the mind. So you're not really addicted to any kind of substance, and the idea that you don't want to do it that's a fun one, isn't it? The idea that you don't want to do it, you want to do it. That's how I would work with it. That's how I'd work with any thought like that, and for me it just wasn't an, it wasn't an issue Like the smoking of spliffs. It just really wasn't an issue because of the way I would look at things. You know, I just, I just any thought that would say I shouldn't be doing this or I don't want to do this, that's bullshit. You're projecting everything that you perceive. You 100% want to do it. So do it with 100% joy. Right, it's like? Because this is the means to undoing this dream, whatever it is. It's the means to undoing this dream, this thought. That's the ego, the thought that says I don't want to do it. That's the ego. So I get the perception.
Speaker 1:I come over here and it showed me ahead of time too. It's like when I was coming over here it showed me ahead of time. It was like you're not going to be smoking spliffs when you're over there. There's just like this awareness that I wasn't going to be smoking spliffs when you're over there. There's just like this, this awareness that I wasn't going to be smoking spliffs over here, and and so and so, noticing that I'm like oh, okay, and and I come over here and sure enough, there's.
Speaker 1:It's just doesn't really flow. You know, my husband even asked me, asked me like isn't there weed there? Isn't there smoke? Yeah, there is. There's all that stuff. I'm just not feeling drawn to it. I just haven't like seemed to be like taking the time to put all that stuff together and do the thing, and I go, yeah, I just I'm getting the sense that it's just not, it's just not part of the plan right now, and it's not from making it wrong, it's not from exercising any willpower and anything like that.
Speaker 1:And I was telling another friend, I was telling another friend yeah, I was smoking spliffs all day and all night before I left Hawaii. And she goes and you just quit cold turkey. It's like as if there's something to do. There's just like nothing to do, it's just the next thing. It's the next thing, that's okay, that's, that's done. I don't feel like doing that.
Speaker 1:And someone asked me would will you do it again? I don't know, I don't really know. Do you feel, do you feel different? Do you feel better? Do you feel clearer? I seem, from my perspective, the same, the same. Maybe one seeming effect that doesn't seem to be there. There's less phlegm, apparently. I also seem to be doing different stuff, like all kinds of oxygen and stuff like that. Just let things go in and out. You know getting you get stuck in a particular pattern, from judging it, from saying I don't want to do it, but here I am doing it. I mean, let's say, I'm smoking a spliff like this and I'm like smoking and I'm like, oh, I hate this shit, why I doing it? Right, that's not how I would smoke spliffs. I would smoke spliffs in joy. Oh, thank you, holy Spirit, and any thought that would condemn it or anything about that.
Speaker 1:I was staying in a place with other people and at one point the other people uh decided they didn't want any um spliff smoking at the house. So there, they had a meeting with me and I and it seemed like I was the last one uh, smoking spliffs that lived at the house. There was someone who visited there, a couple of people who there that liked to smoke, and so there was a meeting. They called a meeting and they said we want to make this place smoke-free and I was like, oh okay, I don't need to smoke here. They're like really, that was easy. And I go yeah, I smoke for joy, I'm enjoying it. I'm not trying to bum anyone out with it, it's fine, I don't need to smoke here, no worries, I'll go across the street, I'll smoke across the street.
Speaker 1:It was funny because it was probably the next day I think it was the next day and I was talking with my roommate and she's like where are you going? I'm going across the street to smoke a split. And she's like you could smoke here. I just changed, you know, it's just, it's always like this, this sense like like are you going to get irritated, are you going to get upset about this? You know, are you going to make a big deal about it and it's like man, it's just there's nothing happening. Make a big deal about it and it's like man, it's just there's nothing happening. You know, if, if for some reason it's, it's it seems like it's difficult or it's bothering people around around me, or something like that it's not a big deal. So then you don't play out this addictive thing Like, oh, now I don't have those. I'm I something.
Speaker 1:It reminds me of my aunt when I was a kid and it really clued me into something. There she ran out of cigarettes. She was out of cigarettes and I was probably like 13. And she goes I'm having a nicotine fit. Oh, my God, I'm having a nicotine fit. And you know, I've been smoking too. I've been smoking since I was 12. And I'm like what's that? What's a nicotine fit? And she's like that's where, if I don't have a cigarette, something really bad happens in my body. And I'm like, really, I know, right then, and I was already smoking by the time I was 12, like I said, right then I was like hmm, I don't buy into that, that's not true, it's just a projection. That's the addiction projection. It says, if I don't have this, it's going to be bad.
Speaker 1:And it may be the same thing for someone with sex right, when I'm talking about how bodies aren't meant to be used for getting anything out of them they're really only meant to be used for communication and someone might be like, well, hmm, and then I've had friends tell me they're addicted to sex, so therefore they're trying to control themselves. Tell me they're addicted to sex, so therefore they're trying to control themselves. And if you get the perception that you're addicted to sex, all that's telling you is you are putting a judgment on it. It's not something bad or wrong. And that's the whole reason why they have the myths about Jesus and Mary Magdalene having sex and doing sex magic.
Speaker 1:It's because people are feeling guilty for their apparent addictions sex, drugs, whatever, any of these addictions. People are feeling guilty about them. So these are meant to alleviate the guilt. First, you need to alleviate the guilt for the particular thing before you can see past it. So it's just the same as anything. You're talking about addiction and something that you think that you want to stop, but you feel like you can't stop. It's just the same as anything that it doesn't really do anything for you and you don't really need it, then it's not like an addictive thing anymore, right, and even the same thing with sex. It's not saying that you can't do it, it's just in believing that you need it it's different. Believing that you need it is one extreme and judging it is the other extreme. In the middle of that, that's where your perception is being used to look past it. So the extremes are just yourself holding yourself to illusions. They're just using the illusion to hold you, in this sense, like you're bad, like you're wrong.
Speaker 1:So when you come to a sense of peace with everything, even any kind of addiction, can just be done with love and even the idea that it could have some kind of a negative effect on you, nothing in the world affects you and nothing that you think affects you. You can't even be affected by your own thinking. It's actually a misperception. That's part of the misperception that you can be affected at all. You're really only affected by God, your creator, who created you in perfect love, and that's not really an effect, that's really an extension. So you can clear up any of those ideas like you made yourself sick or you made yourself hurt or you made yourself addicted. You can clear up any of those ideas in an instant, by recognizing that your mind is only all-powerful in love and only 100% helpful.
Speaker 1:So what you're perceiving as an addiction, what you're perceiving as any kind of sickness, as any kind of rash or anything going on, what you're perceiving is just a misperception. It's not caused by your thoughts, because your thoughts are always one with God. Your thoughts are always one with God. It's the cause of your perceiving. It is listening to a thought that's against you. You're perceiving it as listening to a thought that's against you and having listened to thoughts and having a habit of listening to thoughts that are against you, you're perceiving and this is what perceiving is. It's like a superimposed layer over reality Misperception, misperception.
Speaker 1:So let's all just rest in the stillness of us being all powerful mind and not being affected by anything, not being affected by thoughts that say that we're not a powerful mind and not being affected by anything in the world. It's true that our mind is so powerful that when our thoughts go unrecognized, they make illusions. That's true. Our mind is all powerful. When they go unrecognized, they do make illusions. Powerful. When they go unrecognized, they do make illusions, but the thing is, you're not affected by those. You can deny any meaning to that right now. See, it's making your thought, it's making your mind as if it's not powerful, that makes you perceive illusions. It's as if it's not powerful that makes you perceive illusions. It's as if it's not powerful, and not powerful is giving power to the ego's thoughts. We'll get further along in that in A Course in Miracles too.
Speaker 1:So make sure you join me on Wednesdays for A Course in Miracles if you want to go deeper into this, especially if what I'm sharing with you isn't landing for you right now, if it's not landing for you right now about how your mind is totally innocent and not really capable of doing any harm. Okay, as we're going through A Course in Miracles and we're doing that deep dive on Wednesdays, you can also listen to the recording later. As we're going through that, you're going to see what this world entirely you know, not just for feeling better the kinds of miracles that actually collapse time, the kinds of miracles that make this illusion seem more and more translucent. That's what we're learning as we go through A Course in Miracles and we do it like that deep dive. I call it a deep dive because we're taking it sentence by sentence and we're looking at exactly what Jesus is saying there and how he's showing us to undo this world. It's really exciting that we don't have to suffer at all. We don't have to do any suffering over even having listened to the ego, because all listening to the ego has been in the past. Right now, we're powerful to make a different choice. So hooray everyone.
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