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Meeting at Namaste Village | Lesson 233 From A Course in Miracles

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What happens when we surrender everything—our thoughts, our actions, even our annoyances—to divine guidance? In this profound exploration of A Course in Miracles Lesson 233, we discover how giving our life to God transforms our perception of reality itself.

The session begins with a radical proposition: God's will for us is perfect happiness, while the ego's purpose is to keep us trapped in fear. Every moment presents us with this choice. Do we listen to the voice that leads to peace, or the one that perpetuates suffering? This isn't about judging our actions or following rigid spiritual rules—it's about recognizing the purpose behind everything we do.

One of the most liberating insights shared is that our bodies don't actually feel anything. All sensation, whether pleasant or painful, stems from our thoughts about separation. When we believe something external can harm us, we experience that belief as physical discomfort. A powerful testimony about painless childbirth demonstrates how fundamentally different our experience becomes when we release fear.

The discussion challenges conventional wisdom about spiritual practice. Rather than spending years trying to reprogram our subconscious, A Course in Miracles offers a direct path to truth—bypassing mental noise and connecting with what it calls "miracle-mindedness." This foundation of our being remains untouched by illusory experiences and remembers our oneness with God.

Perhaps most touching is the revelation about our relationships. Those who trigger us aren't enemies but teachers, showing us exactly where we still believe in separation. As we heal these perceptions, we begin to see beyond bodies to the divine light in everyone. We cannot go home alone—the journey back to God includes all our brothers.

Ready to experience the freedom of complete surrender? Join us in this practice of giving everything to God, moment by moment, and discover the joy that has been waiting for you all along.

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Speaker 1:

Aloha, this is an ACIM meeting at Namaste Village and today we're doing Lesson 233 from A Course in Miracles. This is Hope Johnson, woo, alright, lesson 233. I give my life to God today, so I give. That's talking about consent. Right, we're consenting to this, we're going. This is our free will here, so we're deciding. I give, I'm deciding right now, and this is right now. It's moment to moment. You know you can start out with the intention in the morning, but look, things are going to take your attention from time to time and this is every little thing, like even what should I eat, what should I wear? When you do this, you're going to be so happy. This is the kind of consent right. Who should I speak to? What should I say? It is the consent to God. Look it, god's will for you is perfect happiness. Why not give it to God? Because you can only listen to one of two voices. It's either God that's for your perfect happiness and the ego, who wants to fucking kill you.

Speaker 3:

You mean, when they say what should I eat? The ego says chocolate.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know the thing is, the form of it actually doesn't matter one bit. That's not the thing.

Speaker 2:

The form of it is not it? Chocolate's not loaded with sugar and milk.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, see, that's another thing. See, we're talking about illusions here. When you're talking about sugar, milk, things that seem to be good or bad for you, that's the ego's game. Is that illusions can affect another illusion. Look, your body is an illusion. You're projecting it into the field. There is no other illusion that affects your illusion. This is exactly what Jesus was talking about in our deep dive yesterday. He's saying you got to know this as a foundation. If you're in pain, you're miscreating. Now you're miscreating it's not because of something you ate for instance.

Speaker 3:

So you're saying you're asking God for everything, including you mentioned what should I eat? So how would God respond? It was joy, something that will give me joy, or Nothing's going to give you joy.

Speaker 1:

It's the fact that you're asking, because you're asking to be guided. Okay, Right, that's all. And remember, it's not in the form. So that's the ego that would come up and judge and say something like oh only the ego would have me eating, let's say, for instance, chocolate with sugar and milk in it. Only the egos would have me do that. That's not true, because you know everything's neutral. Here's another thing of course, in Miracles Shares, Everything in the field is totally neutral. It's your thoughts about it that are not neutral. Right, You're either thinking with the ego or you're thinking with the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 3:

So I think that chocolate will bring me joy and it's so wonderful and I eat it. That way, then my body receives it as something joyful.

Speaker 1:

Well, your body doesn't really do anything, it's all mental. Okay, so here's what's going on. You're eating it for the purpose of extending rather than projecting, not to make your body anything right, because that's always coming from your mind. When you're doing things with the purpose of extending love, with the purpose of forgiveness, peace, harmony, you're feeling good. You get a sense in the body like it's been healing. But the body isn't something that can even be healed, it's only all mental, see. So you do everything for that purpose. That's why you're asking for guidance. That's why you're consenting Give my life to God today.

Speaker 1:

So this is saying you know, under no uncertain terms, my life, that's every little thing. That does not mean you're judging the things in this field. It's you're just using everything for that purpose. You're guided to what's most beneficial all the time. It's just that when you're in a frame of mind where you're in miracle-mindedness, you don't have to have other lessons to get you to that point. Everything's always going to be helpful, whatever it is that you seem to do. But you may have to have other lessons to get you to the point of miracle mindedness, and that's where it doesn't feel smooth and joyful all the time, see.

Speaker 3:

So if I just go into. The state of God's will for me is perfect happiness. State of God's will for me is perfect happiness and I honor that and believe it.

Speaker 1:

Right, surprise me with what I'm going to seem to do.

Speaker 3:

I have no idea when is my grace and my happiness? Show me, I know you will.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yay, it's right here now. Chocolate cake on the road, because I remember.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, there's nothing in the field I could be a grass area if I wanted to be Sure.

Speaker 1:

Sure, sure you know. Here's the thing You're not really eating anything in the field. So this idea that you are eating something, that it's either good or bad for you, it's actually distracting you from receiving guidance, because what you're doing in that situation is you're making one illusion as if it could affect another illusion, that illusion being your body. So this is making your mind vulnerable to illusions. Okay, so this is this, is what it means. I give my life to God today.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you could be a breatharian or you can eat a shit ton of meat and sugar, and it won't make one bit of difference. It actually won't make one bit of difference to God, to Jesus, it doesn't matter, it's. What is it for? Is the question. What is being a breatharian for? What is eating all that meat? For it's all mental. Yeah, see, okay, good, good, because this is a major thing for people. This is a major thing that people get tripped out about and even start judging other people in their mind based on what they eat, and feeling pride in our own diet or shame because we didn't eat the right thing, thinking that something's going to poison us. That's a poisonous thought, see, and it's the direct opposite of something's good for me. Something's good for me is the direct opposite of something's going to poison me. It's always going to go back and forth like that, making your body into something that's vulnerable instead of just a neutral projection.

Speaker 3:

The only thing good for me is remembering who I am.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know it.

Speaker 3:

Being one with God you know, that's it.

Speaker 1:

How about this? Let me remember who I am through eating this food, whatever it happens to be. Let me use this food or non-food, or being a breatharian for remembering who I am all the time, and then it's going to feel good. It's just going to feel good, okay. So I give my life. This is all of it. Everything to God Right. This is all of it, everything to God Right. This is every little thing. My shower Is this a good time to shower? How does it feel? You know, I got the sense the other day. I didn't want to go somewhere and I checked in the Holy Spirit. What would you have me do? It was really clear Take a shower.

Speaker 2:

And I took a shower and it was just obvious where I was going what I was doing.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. So, and that's you know it's to guide. I give my life to God to guide, so it's like guide me in everything, every gesture, every word, everything. Okay, and in that way you're going to be happy, You're going to be so relieved, and it doesn't matter what anyone else projects. You're not going to be swayed by anything like that. You're just going to be in love. You're going to be blessing everything that occurs. You're going to be blessing everything anyone says. You're going to be blessing a sense of annoyance that you might feel in reaction to what someone else says. You're blessing that as well. Thank you, this is my opportunity. I had a really weird experience.

Speaker 3:

I played this game Word with friends with someone, and they put these stupid commercials on and I found myself like I can't get X, this thing out. I was so annoyed and then I looked at what it was and I cracked up. It was a spiritual lesson. Yeah, I was so annoyed and then I looked at what it was and I cracked up. It was a spiritual lesson. Yeah, it was candy crush. Good, well, like candy is like I'm a big sugar person. And then like shooting it in the candy was like like it was being bombed. It was hilarious. Also, the idea of having like a crush on someone, like ooh, you're sweet like candy. All of it is like. I just watched and let it play out and it was like a spiritual lesson. I'm like this is bizarre, but it was, it's all a spiritual lesson. Not even seeing my face, I could feel like that and then when I left, it was a release.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a good trick. Look at your face from the inside like when you wince.

Speaker 3:

And you're mm yeah, notice that, ugh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yep, you got it. You got it. That's it. That's being guided. Good job, okay, and we start off with Father again. Yay, thank you, father. Thank you, father. Thank you for holding creation intact for us. Thank you for holding our holiness intact for us. This is a fatherly thing to do. You know, I see this as the masculine holding everything in place for us, especially our holiness, which we cannot ruin. Right, it's like it's really sweet, so it starts with Father. Right, it's like it's really sweet, so it starts with father.

Speaker 1:

I give you all my thoughts today. So that's, you know, that's any thought. So like if, if there's thoughts with the ego, there's thoughts of of sadness or irritation or grief or anything like that is, give them right over. Today, this is the day for that. This is the day for finding joy. This is for the day for finding connectedness with all of our brothers. Right, I would have none of my own. I would have none of mine.

Speaker 1:

It says right, so I'm not going to keep any thoughts, and basically, what that looks like is not taking on thoughts in private. Right, you know how A Course in Miracles says there's no private thoughts, right, okay? Well, a lot of people make a mistake on what that is really saying. There's no private thoughts, because none of those thoughts that you listen to the ego actually exist. That's why, but to you, from your perception, in your lonely ass dream, those are totally real to you in your lonely ass dream, those are totally real to you.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so when you give your thoughts over to God, that's when you know the thoughts that are not private. The only thoughts we could really share with one another are the thoughts of God, the thoughts from the thought system of the Holy Spirit. Look at it like this Okay, we've got two thought systems here's the ego's thought system and here's the Holy Spirit's thought system. Right, we choose which one we're listening to. We're only always listening. We don't have any of our own thoughts in this dream. Okay, we kind of like cut ourselves off from our own thoughts. That's why God gave us the Holy Spirit whole thought system like that. So we're only just listening to one thought system or the other all the time.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so when you say I give all my thoughts to God today, you're looking at any thoughts that hurt you. You pivot over to the Holy Spirit, bring them to the Holy Spirit, bring them to the truth. Right, the Holy Spirit has. And the Holy Spirit's an illusion. We talked about this earlier, right? Yes, holy Spirit is an illusion.

Speaker 1:

We talked about this earlier, right, holy Spirit is an illusion. He only, he's only here for the dream. He doesn't go past the dream. Okay, he's given to you because you know what you made the ego, and without the Holy Spirit, you'd only have ego thoughts that would suck balls. He would not like it, right? So so God said, as soon as you did that, god said here, here's another thought system for you that actually, this is my voice, this is my voice in the dream, this is what can guide you back Whenever you're ready, you still have your free will, right? So this is our free will. This is us consenting today to saying, god, I would have none of mine. I give you all my thoughts today, I would have none of mine. I give you all my thoughts today, I would have none of mine. Okay, these are ego thoughts. We think they're our own. It sounds like our voice Fuck that person or I feel sorry for them. Right, that's also an ego voice.

Speaker 3:

Don't believe everything you think. That's such an awakening for me, right Whoa, yeah, what a thing it's true Right.

Speaker 1:

Believe the voice for God, because that's the bridge home, that's actually your bridge home. So believe the voice for God that tells you we're one, for instance. We're one. So, basically, this is coming from ourselves, like when we say I feel annoyed, I feel irritated. You're never upset for the reason. You think it's a thought of separation, that's annoying you, that's irritating you, that's disgusting you, that's making you feel bad for yourself. That's what it is. So you bring them to the truth.

Speaker 1:

I'm keeping none of these and, you know, I like to ask Jesus. I like to bring Jesus in on this, you know, because Jesus is standing at the end of the timeline already. Right, this is a circular, freaking timeline. It's not really going straight, right, he's. He's standing at the end of the timeline. He's kind of like got his arm around us, like this, and he's looking at things with us. So I like to bring Jesus in.

Speaker 1:

Jesus, look at this thought with me, because Jesus' mind is pure of all guilt and he's a guide. He actually guides us back to the thoughts that the Holy Spirit has for us. Look at this thought. It's hurting me, this hurts. Is it making me smile? Is it making me joyful? No, okay, it hurts. Then, jesus, look at this with me, right, he knows, and he's gentle about it. He's really sweet about it. He's not going to condemn us, he's just going to be gentle about it, like, no, that's not a thought. That's good for you. Right, give that over. Give that over right now. And of course, in miracles it's saying to bring allusions to the truth. So you're giving that thought over to God, you're bringing it over to the voice for God, the Holy Spirit, which is basically dissolving that thought, it's neutralizing that thought. Okay, so that's why it's a bridge, home, because it's purifying your mind of guilt, fear, pain, suffering, all that.

Speaker 2:

The big one is the belief that the body can have power over you.

Speaker 1:

Right, any power? Right, you know what it talks about too. Your body doesn't feel anything. You know we talk about how our body feels. Something, right, we go oh, I feel like this, I feel sick, or I feel dizzy, or I feel this or that or this or that. Look it, here's how we look at this. It's not a guilty thing at all. Don't take it like it's a guilty thing. This is the way the ego would have you interpret it like it's a guilty thing.

Speaker 1:

What God wants you to see, what Jesus wants you to see, which we were just going over yesterday, is that any pain, any sickness, any bad feeling in the body, it's miscreation right now. Just be aware of that. It's miscreation You're miscreating. Right now You're holding up, you're propping up a thought that you may not see. But if you're aware that it's coming from your mind and it's like we don't condemn others, either right, because they got some kind of sickness or they got some kind of weakness or anything like that, it's just a matter of helping each other to see that it has a cause, and that cause is miscreation, or you could say, projection right now. There's only now. So you go through the feeling, the uneasy feeling, but in your mind you're alert and you're ready to hand everything to the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 3:

You know the Bible, so my blood, pressure went to 202 the other day, over 103. I was dizzy. I felt like I was going to pass out and my blood pressure was really really high, so I created that.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's put it like this You're making it up. This is not creation. There's only creation or miscreation. Okay, so there's a lot of thoughts that you have a tendency to believe. Okay, one of them is your age. Okay, so, when you have a tendency and you keep on believing that this is an age that you are I don't believe I'm 80, though, okay. Okay, so that's good.

Speaker 1:

So, look, there's a lot of thoughts circulating. Look, they're underneath the conscious level, right, saying this and that and this and that about you. So there's a lot that you don't see, that you're automatically believing. That's why, when you go, oh, I'm making my blood pressure 202 and you're light about it, right, then you're actually inviting the Holy Spirit to show you what you're propping up to make it as if you have a blood pressure that's not a healthy, vital blood pressure. See, there's not anything.

Speaker 1:

See, the thing is, what we want to do is we want to return all power to your mind, because your mind is all power. It's all powerful to making every single illusion that you perceive. And the trick of the ego is to make it as if your body is doing something that you're not making it. Do See, it's very convincing illusion that your body's doing things on its own. It's a very convincing illusion that you've had this whole history and other people are going to tell you too. They'll tell you stuff like oh well, you're doing great for your age, right? So it's like we're always talking to each other, making these illusions true, but what you truly want, what you truly want, is to know your power as as the holy mind that god created, that never changed right, I think if you see the cause and effect as reversed, that's the problem.

Speaker 3:

We think the cause is external and the effect is my body's hurting or some other thing. But it really causes here, and external is the effect and the thing about the body when I'm realizing from my stuff it's neutral but it's trying so hard to communicate something to me, saying you're not feeling your connection with God, something's off off the mark and that's why it's showing up. Like Louise Hay says, if it's your knee it means something, it's wearied. You can even look up Louise Hay.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's not get into that, because that's not how A Course in Miracles puts it at all.

Speaker 3:

It's not even about a body at all.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's illusion. You're talking about illusion right now.

Speaker 3:

If I feel something in my body. It means I think I'm a body.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's all.

Speaker 3:

And I'm not the divine being there.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's separation, that's all it is.

Speaker 3:

That's just typhoid fever or the measles, even Do they create that situation to?

Speaker 1:

attract it, they're projecting it. So that's different than creation. It's miscreation, right? It's miscreation, right. There's only creation or miscreation, so it's not. We have all these different names for different diseases and different sicknesses that people could have, but really all it is is belief in the sense of separation. Look, there's not any kind of, there's not any kind of a guilty projection about this at all. This is, this is the ego that would not want us to see that, you know, that would not want us to see that we're making everything up and it's only because we're choosing to deny what's true. And it's only now. Nothing happened, no, like something seems that you seem to catch it from a person. There's no contagion, there's not. You're not getting, you're not getting dengue from a mosquito, it's all just one thing I mean.

Speaker 3:

even great people get ill and die.

Speaker 1:

Apparently See, you're talking about the imagination. Is that strong? Yes, you don't have that much power.

Speaker 2:

The imagination can have a lot of strength.

Speaker 3:

Well then everybody would win a million.

Speaker 2:

Well, there's Babaji and Al-Kizadek and Elijah Enoch.

Speaker 1:

Well, look at the example of Jesus too. Okay, that's resurrection. Right, that's what we're going for here. This is actually where A Course in Miracles is bringing us to total resurrection. That's where the body, the dense body that we made, actually dissolves. Okay, it doesn't die, but it dissolves. Now, as you're practicing like this, as you're willing to see, you're going to see that less and less things seem to affect you because you're willing to see. It's this unwillingness to see, it's a sense like how can I be creating this? This must just be happening to me, that it just keeps on happening more and more and more and more. Until what do we do? What do we do as a common human being? Go to sickness and then death? That's not necessary. The body could just be set. Even if you're not dissolving the body in this lifetime, the body could be set aside very gently and happily. It does not need to go to sickness first. That's where.

Speaker 3:

Yogananda is. Yeah, I was just thinking of Yogananda leaving for a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he consciously left his body and it didn't even deteriorate for days.

Speaker 1:

Right there was a real message in that. So what we want to look at, what you really do want, is to see this differently so that you can sense this vitality of your mind, even through the projection of a body, right? So it's going to take some focus and determination, right? Because you're used to perceiving these symptoms and perceiving that they're just happening to you, that your mind isn't doing it. So this is going to take some focus and determination for you to change your mind about what your mind is for and start looking at it differently. Don't buy into any guilty bullshit about it. It's not like that. It's only for you to see differently, and the more you see differently, the better you're going to seem to feel, because you're not feeling. Your body is cannot tell you how it fucking feels. Your mind is projecting it, that's all, and you're doing awesome, thank you that was very good, thank you.

Speaker 3:

So what about childbirth? You went through pains of childbirth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So the third time there was no pain. Because I decided you know what happened is I took this thing called hypno babies. I saw it in the midwife's thing and said have a painless childbirth. And I hadn't even opened a course. The midwife's thing, it said have a painless childbirth. And I hadn't even opened A Course in Miracles. Yet I go shit. If anyone can have a painless childbirth, I can do it. And you know what I did? I started hypnotizing myself.

Speaker 1:

This was a huge awakening for me, because I had already had two painful childbirths. Second one was really bad, right. It was like put me out please. They're using demerol and I'm waking up in all this pain with contraction anyways, right and so. And so I trained my mind. I took a half hour every day and I trained my mind to have a birth without pain. And I did. I had a totally painless childbirth, made the baby come really fast too, because I I'm not contracting, right.

Speaker 1:

That was such an awakening for me. I go man, if you could do that with childbirth, you could do that with all your emotions, you could do with anything. You never have to go through pain, it's just a matter of recognizing. You know what they taught in hypno babies Pain is fear, Just like ACIM taught in hypnobabies pain is fear, Just like ACIM. I'm like what? That was the first I heard of that. What Pain is fear Really? So they're teaching you not to be afraid of the opening that's happening in your vagina and the contractions and everything like that. They're basically teaching you not to be afraid of the process.

Speaker 3:

It's interesting. I'm a doula here. I was trained as a death doula and there's also a birth doula, and there's pain and bump, the entering and the exiting. If you're fearful, if there's fear, that's right. If you relax into it.

Speaker 2:

It could be like the transcendence.

Speaker 1:

That's right, and the resistance in the wire heats up the wire yes, it doesn't have to be pain-dying and resistance when the uterus is trying to contract locks it up and makes birth take longer and be even more pain. That's the same with anything that you're going through in the body sense too. So it's like you open up to the sense of pain that you feel, but don't believe any of the thoughts about it. Bring those thoughts to the truth. The truth is that the cause is your mind and the effect is the manifestation, and truly God is the real cause and you're God's effect. So there's nothing in the that. Nothing can harm you. Okay, jay, you had something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was going to ask your take on subconscious, because in the science world they're saying like 95% of our subconscious is running our show. Uh-huh, that's right. That, I see, is more like an ego place.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh, you're right.

Speaker 2:

God and the Holy Spirit. Right spirit, right, um. But in terms of us like feeding that. You know, spending over two decades studying personal growth books to feed my subconscious and rewire my ways of behaving. And then, all of a sudden, I find course in miracles and I realized I don't have to do any of that?

Speaker 1:

no, you don't have to do any of that I have to feed a subconscious.

Speaker 2:

I don't have to rewire and flush out water. He's this Buddhist and all these things. That's right, and I can just remember that I am literally coming from God.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because what you were doing is you were working on the level of effect. Now you're working on the level of the cause. So there's the subconscious mind, which is huge. Here's the conscious mind. It's small Things from the subconscious arise and pass away onto the conscious mind right Beneath that is the ground of being miracle-mindedness, beneath all of that, the subconscious noise basically. So it's like you sink through that and go straight to the source and let that purify everything in there and through that.

Speaker 1:

In a lifetime, at a certain point of time, you will see your physical body dissolve into the light Once your subconscious is completely clear of guilt. And that goes along with the physical world, because this is just like a superimposed layer over creation, this thing with the birth and death and everything passing away. It's all going to dissolve in the twinkling of an eye. It says right. It says every eye will see. That's biblical right.

Speaker 1:

This is the goal in everyone's mind and the desire for God, the desire for this truth and the pull to it. It is not deniable, we're all being pulled to it. We can't even help it. It doesn't matter how much we circle around, right. It's just a matter of when. That could feel like forever, because we seem to want to die all the time. We want to just have another life experience, more stuff. Keep on dying. But if you use every experience like this, I give you all my thoughts today I would have none of mine. When you're using all of your experiences like this, you're going quickly, you're on a vertical axis, right. You're asking for guidance all the time and it doesn't matter what occurs with the body, whether it gets pained or whatever anything like that, because of the way you're using it. It's always a joy, right, because it's always going back to the source.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's interesting because sometimes I think, going through all that subconscious stuff, you know it's a deepening, an internal deepening. So it's not God out there. Beyond all that stuff is the Christ consciousness within me. It's here, yeah, and I can find it here.

Speaker 1:

And you can feel it in your body's energy field. You tune into your body's energy field. That breath work you guys are doing is awesome. You know, when you tune into your body's energy field and you become aware of that, what sacred the sacred heart what.

Speaker 1:

Catholics call the sacred heart. You know they kind of hijacked it, making things all guilty. But yeah, that is actually a thing Like it is emanating peace and truth right within you and it's different from the mental right. So it's like you come into this sense in your core and feel it and let that be guidance. You know, whenever you're thinking with the ego, you'll feel kind of like a distortion in there. That's when you know you have something to handle, right, right, that's it All right.

Speaker 2:

When I go into your grocery store and I go down an aisle where there's sugar stuff, my stomach just goes in knots. But then what I made up in me is my story is I have this little sugar devil and he's like get that, get that. You can get that, you can do it, you can do anything for two weeks. And it's like I literally feel a gut reaction when I go through those aisles. Uh-huh, like I can be around healthy stuff, my stomach's fine.

Speaker 2:

And as soon as I go down that aisle, I'm like yeah, well, you know it's not to you.

Speaker 1:

To you, those illusions aren't neutral. That's why your thoughts about them are not neutral. See, without that history Right, right, them are not neutral. See, without that history right, without your thoughts about them, you wouldn't have anything about that. There would be nothing. Yeah, and see it's like. It's like when the ego's talking. It's about before, what you did before. You can have that because you've been good, or something like that. It's still talking about things being healthy and unhealthy for you, but making your body into an illusion, right. Me, that occurs when I go, when I go down the laundry aisle artificial, artificial smell, but you know, I just use it to hand it to the truth, hand it over to the truth, recognizing, and you know, nothing can harm me plays into these solutions, because you can tell the toxicity of the food by how bright the package is.

Speaker 2:

Brighter the package, more toxic the food.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, Half the illusion Right.

Speaker 2:

So another example of forgiveness there and releasing that and being in this art of allowance and giving it love versus feeling guilt and shame, right, right but then also the other thing, what I'm seeing in this, versus feeling guilt and shame, but then also the other thing. What I'm seeing in this is what I've heard you say is you have God, and then I heard you say that ego is an illusion, but now you have one polarity. So that would be really weird if all we ever heard was a voice of ego, so God creates Holy Spirit

Speaker 2:

as a bridge, bridge, a voice for the connection to god. And then we have our christ consciousness, because we're made in the image of god, right? So we have that. And then we have all of this supposed habituation and patterning that has happened our whole entire life and everyone's individual in their stories. But then you have, like, what I've been studying is the power of the subconscious and mindset, and what I've come to realize is all of that is a tool for ego voice. So, yeah, nothing is in remembrance, nothing is in your true power, everything is given to a third-party object inside yourself and you believe that if you have more of it you will obtain and achieve and accomplish. And what I realize now is I don't have any of that. I can dissolve all of it and just be an empty vessel for God.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, and that's what this lesson is all about. I give my life to God to guide today. So now you're just listening to the voice for the Holy Spirit, which is telling you that you're perfect and holy and still as God created you. You're not a body, you're totally free. All these upset feelings come from believing that we are a body and we're in prison, you know, thinking that we're in this thing. We're not in it, we're. We're projecting it. It's in our mind.

Speaker 2:

we're projecting it kind of like onto a screen of consciousness so I don't even have to spend time, hours trying to rewire. How are the subconscious?

Speaker 1:

no because it doesn't exist and I like the analogy of the subconscious.

Speaker 2:

Nope, because it doesn't exist and while the analogy of the movie is an imagined thing, yes, that I imagine, yes, individually.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so you can just sink down.

Speaker 3:

My ego created the power of the subconscious. Well, why did you go watch the movie?

Speaker 2:

So do you run up to the front of the movie theater and try to rearrange the characters?

Speaker 1:

on the screen Right. No, I didn't watch the movie and and she just had a really good question why do you use block therapy? There's no, why it's the thing that's guided, so it's the thing. Do we have to?

Speaker 3:

fix our body in a physical way? Or can we just realize we're not?

Speaker 1:

No, we don't have to fix anything. And that's the thing with block therapy too when you're using block therapy, recognizing that all of the effects are coming from the mind, so it comes back to what is this for right? With block therapy, it's so freaking, relaxing and nice, you know, and it's like Holy Spirit. What should I do? For me, it's block therapy, a lot of it.

Speaker 3:

I thought it was bringing the pain up, so I thought, looking at it, Well, you're bringing the pain up, you're bringing fear to the light of consciousness.

Speaker 1:

That's what it is. The pain is really symbolic of fear. Remember, pain is fear, right? So look at it as a symbol. Look at this symbol there's pain that's being projected on the body. That's really fear, and you can't tell that it's there until you bring it up, right? So the block therapy is you're able to bring it up in a way where you're relaxed and you're approaching it with the breath and recognizing.

Speaker 2:

All therapy is designed to bring the subconscious to awareness. Right, so it could be resolved. I'll sit with you.

Speaker 3:

I hear you You're saying that to the body and then it's heard, it can be released.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't need to say anything to the body because it's only a symbol. So the pain and the body, those are symbolic of what's happening in the mind. I was thinking this is the mind that was saying.

Speaker 3:

You know it's hurting. And I'm like okay, hear what you're trying to say.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let it go. Right, we're bringing it up and we're letting it go. It's really good symbology. It's been really good symbology for me to see what's going on in the subconscious mind, even the fascia, the way it winds around and strangles the body. Apparently this is symbolic of thought patterns winding around, strangling out life. Right, so it's beautiful practice.

Speaker 1:

But you know, when you look at it from a body sense, from a purely physical sense, you're not going to go nearly as far as fast because you know the intent is still the same to see clearly. But we get tripped up in trying to fix the body and that's not, you know, and you know it even talks about that in block therapy, about how, when you go too far, too fast and this is without the breath, see, every thought has a breath pattern. So the breath, the deep exhale, helps you to see and that symbolizes release. What happens with people when they don't want to see? They're not getting the benefits as fast, they're not getting the release and they tend to hold their breath. Right, yeah, we tend to hold our breath when we're trying to do something. That's exactly right.

Speaker 3:

So it always comes down to more pain right, whereas if you can relax and say it's okay and release yeah, look at it like meditation or any kind of spiritual practice.

Speaker 1:

To me it's, it's really potent for me because it goes right into the pain. I'm projecting Right and I like that. I happen to like that Bringing up the pain. Thank you.

Speaker 3:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, good. Okay, in place of them, my thoughts, which are really what it's saying here. When it's saying my thoughts, it's saying thoughts I thought with the ego. I listened to the ego. This is really what it's saying the thoughts I'm listening to with the ego. So, in place of these thoughts, I'm listening to the ego. Give me your own. These are the Holy Spirit's thoughts. Give me your own thoughts, okay, because those are actually going to dispel the thoughts I made up with the ego. I give you all of my acts as well. Okay, I give you all of my acts that I may do. Your will.

Speaker 1:

Look at this Instead of seeking goals which cannot be attained so it's not in the act itself, look at it, it's in the seeking of goals we only want to seek one goal. It's a real goal that can actually be attained and that's awakening our mind, that's returning our mind to sanity, to wholeness in God. Right, all other goals? So look, it's not the act itself, it's what you think it's going to bring. Goal. So look, it's not the act itself, it's what you think it's going to bring. That's it. It's what goal? What are you trying to do? What are you doing this for? So it's remembering what everything is for.

Speaker 1:

That's how you give all of your acts to God. That includes, let's say, you're taking a medical drug, right, let's say you're taking some kind of a handful of pills that the doctor gave you. What is it for? Take it with that Understanding, does not matter what. If you're shooting up heroin, same Okay, it does not matter. The form of it doesn't matter, it's you're giving the act to seeking one goal, not seeking false goals. That's all. It's a mental thing. And, look, your actions will change accordingly, because God's will for you is perfect happiness, and this is how you listen to God, and so the things, even the things that you seem to do, will seem to bring you so much joy when you first said seeking for goals.

Speaker 3:

I thought you said seeking for gold, said seeking for goals, I thought you said, seeking for gold.

Speaker 1:

What's the gold? Not the physical gold?

Speaker 3:

No, that's right.

Speaker 1:

I want to do your will instead of seeking goals which cannot be obtained, gold which can't be obtained. Right. So it's not a matter of judging acts, it's what is the act for. It's always mental. This is where the ego comes in. The ego always wants to judge acts, call them good or bad. That's right.

Speaker 3:

Entirely different. That's right.

Speaker 1:

It's not the act. That's why I always bring up shooting up heroin, because to me that's the thing that people think is probably the most guilty thing you can possibly do, right. So I like to use that one as an example, because it doesn't matter and you know what? I've heard the story before of someone becoming fully awake while they're on heroin. Right, it's just willingness to be with the goal, right the goal. And no, in case you're wondering, I never did heroin Apparently, apparently.

Speaker 2:

It boils down more to the intention that you're imagining.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's use just a little bit of a different word, and that's willingness. Yeah, it's like are you willing to use this for God's will right now? Are you willing to use this act for God's will? What does it seem like? Your goal is right, god's will for you and all is perfect happiness. Are you willing to use this act for that right now? And that only comes down to now, right, yep, so our will is the same as God's will. So, in place of them, that means the thoughts I'm listening to with the ego give me your own thoughts. I give you all my acts as well, that I may do your will, instead of seeking goals which cannot be obtained and wasting time in vain imaginings See, it's all imaginings. You're wasting time when you're vainly imagining that this particular thing is going to get you something that you think you want in the world. It does not matter the form of it, it's the thing, that it's the, it's the, it's the way you would use that thing.

Speaker 1:

I was reading yesterday. Jesus was talking about justice. Okay, what's justice Someone was talking about. Well, what about when I price haggle with someone about how much something should cost? What about that? And Jesus says as long as you're willing to do it. On the other way too, like if they charge you too little, right. As long as you're not looking to like profit by not paying a certain price, then that's justice, right. Right, because there's nothing to gain here. There's nothing to gain. So, in all things you know, one of them is like truly justice is justice for all, right, and that's where you're really going to feel your abundance too. So it's like, you know, it's like.

Speaker 1:

One example is like, let's say, you go into this store and they're selling something You're like wow, that's way too cheap, that's not normally what I pay. And you would be like hey, is this right? Did you guys? You guys didn't make a mistake, want to make sure you didn't make a mistake, right? So he's saying as long as you would be willing to do it on both ends, then that's justice, right, because you're not, you're not pretending like you, you know you need to get a good deal. Like you're fucking scarce or something like that. Like that, like your provision isn't, isn't giving you. You know what I mean. So this is what he's talking about.

Speaker 1:

You bring this into everything. Don't waste time in vain imaginings, like anything that you do can get you anything good, it all needs to be for the same thing. Your will, your will is, for one is perfect happiness, and that's the same as extending love. That's the same as awakening to the truth, that's the same as returning the mind to sanity. Okay, today I come to you. Ah, today I come to you. It's only you and you, and you, and you, and you and you and you. Right, it's all the all, everything in the illusion, even everything in the illusion, is God, right? So everything's blessing me. So it's all God, it's all blessing me. I come to you. I will step back and merely follow you.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to be in charge today, I'm not going to be trying to guide it. Be you the guide and I the follower. Who questions not the wisdom of the infinite right. Look at infinity. There's no end to it. There's nothing that can harm me, everything that's arising in my perception, perfectly loving, perfectly helpful. Every being, every single thing, even the thoughts. I seem to think with the ego. You know how they become helpful. Because I would follow God's guidance, right? So they become helpful because I'm willing to bring them to the truth, right? The only time when they're not helpful is when I'm not willing to bring them to the truth. I decide whether anything is helpful or unhelpful, and if I say everything's helpful, then I'm always listening to the voice for God.

Speaker 3:

That's what happens when you get triggered by someone. I get triggered. I think somebody out there triggers me, right, I'm like, oh good, there's still something in me that's not, you know, aligned completely. Why am I? And I maybe I shouldn't analyze it, but it's just a flash.

Speaker 1:

Oh, here, here, here's what you do. Here's what you do Extend gratitude, yeah Right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I am happy now to get it, because that gives me a deeper understanding of this area. Is still feeling pain. Yeah, I can heal myself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like oh, I feel that, thank you, right. Oh, I feel that Thank you for that reflection, right, and you'll see, I see this in myself, right? I used to be one of the most annoyed fucking person on the planet. My family seemed to annoy the shit out of me. I seem to see like I seem to feel like I needed to get out of there. It seemed to have started when I was a kid and I had to watch my brothers and sisters. I was like kids are fucking annoying. And so then I got a family of my own and this is how I'm feeling. I use that, that's what I used, and you know what Now it's like people cannot annoy me.

Speaker 1:

I can't even understand that for myself. I mean, I can understand it because I've gone through it, but it's like I cannot get annoyed by a person, I cannot get annoyed by a bug, I cannot get annoyed by a circumstance, because I know it's once. You know too much. It's like your mind is just completely shielded from anything like that. You just see it all as love. It's like aww, like whatever someone seems to be acting, whatever someone seems to be doing loud, whatever, it's just aww. You feel, because you feel within yourself, then you feel with them, right, you feel with people and that's how you're extending, it's how you're always extending love. I'm so grateful for all of those opportunities that it's come to a point now where I don't get that.

Speaker 3:

You know I always remember Viktor Frankl, concentration camp. He had written almost completely man's search for meaning. You know a psychologist, brilliant, and they took all his stuff away and he just kept his mind right there where he was. Or there's another film called A Beautiful World or something Mind, beautiful Mind. No, not A Beautiful Mind, it was a man with a child in a concentration camp.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I know which one you're talking about Life is beautiful, he told him.

Speaker 3:

Nowhere, in this other kind of realm he created to soften for his son, whether that was right or wrong, but Man's Search for Meaning, viktor Frankl, he became aware that those who were in fear were the ones they immediately, you know put to death.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can't even look. They could feel it.

Speaker 3:

The guards knew your state of mind and he was in a state of mind that had no hatred, that he was just seeing this experience as extending his ability to love everybody there and to know who he was. It was a sacred experience, right. So he died later, much later, he became a professor. He was a young man then he did the book. He got out yes, he survived Because he did not have fear. He realized I'm not in fear, they don't even see me. They're attracted to the energy of fear. Those two would come together and those two would have something to do with it.

Speaker 2:

We're constantly worry about negative entities. Right, if you have nothing to feed them? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

they're not going to bother you, they're not attracted to you, that's right that and see, even even like you're talking about negative entities, that that's a, that's also insanity, because there's only one spirit and the idea that a spirit can be negative is a major insanity, right, and so, yes, you're going to perceive it because you believe it. Right, totally imagined, and when we're just totally safe in truth and has God created us.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we only have we only have a few minutes, so we're going to go through this a little bit quicker than we have been. Sorry, no, you're doing awesome. You never have to be sorry for anything.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, if I need to, I'll just say shut the fuck up, flo. I probably need to have that. I do see that.

Speaker 2:

Today I come to you.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, okay, Today I come to you. I will step back and merely follow you. Be you the guide and I the follower. Who questions not the wisdom of the infinite, nor love, whose tenderness we're not questioning, love, whose tenderness that means everything everyone ever says and does is also tender whose tenderness I cannot comprehend. I'm actually miscreating when I think that anyone is talking to me in anything else other than love or anyone's doing anything other than love. All right, but which is yet your perfect gift to me? Today we have one guide to lead us. That's the Holy Spirit side of things. Right, one guide to lead us.

Speaker 1:

And as we walk together this is the part I've been talking about before we even got to this part we walk together with all of our brothers. We cannot leave one of them out. They're always look it, as long as there's guilt in our mind, our brothers are going to seemingly pop up, seemingly to be a problem, and this is our opportunity. This becomes our opportunity to see I'm not seeing them. Clearly, we actually walk together. In another part, jesus is talking about how we're actually groping. When we first start out and we get this idea, we're like wait a second, our brothers are one with us. It's like we're groping in the dark trying to find their hand, to hold their hand, because we want to hold their hand right and go back to heaven with them. The only way we can go back to heaven is with our brothers. We can't leave any of our brothers out.

Speaker 1:

So whenever we feel this sense of annoyance like I was talking about I did it mostly with my kids and we undo that right and we feel that energy. It's like you want to be blessed, so you want to hold their hand, meaning you want to see past what you made of them. We're not seeing anyone clearly. We're more like perfect beams of light. We're not these bodies, we're not the sounds we hear coming out of these mouths, right, we're not the skin. We're not the looks, we're nothing. We're not this personality.

Speaker 1:

So we're not seeing each other clearly and as long as we're holding and harboring guilt in our mind, we're seeing each other as something that's vile, sometimes something that's threatening, something that's annoying, right, something to feel sorry for. Right, something that needs help, right, something like that, instead of seeing each other as powerful beams of light. Every time we're willing to see past what we made of someone, we're getting more aware of who we are. We're sinking into our holiness, we're sinking past all that dirt in the subconscious mind down to the miracle mindedness, that foundation of our mind, and we're knowing ourselves more and more.

Speaker 2:

So that's why it's saying here it seems like we're getting deeper and deeper and more and more into our power.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's it. We're getting as the more we're willing to see each other as as we are really, as we are in the separation, same feeling.

Speaker 3:

The one is the group that I belong to in Connecticut was called the forgiveness arc. Uh-huh, because we are going to buy to having that holy relationship. Is that is the atonement? Yeah, god's plan for salvation, its separation is gone and yes, and?

Speaker 1:

and look at, here's the thing about the holy relationship. No one has to agree to join you, right? You're in holy relationship with all, even circumstances, everything. When you decide that you're going to use it for going to god one goal, you're going to use it. You're going to use everything for one goal that makes you in holy relationship with everything and everyone. Okay, whether they become mighty companions for you or not, in your experience, that's where you know you can only interact with so many people in an illusion, right? So you're going to find holy companions. That's where people are going to return that to you and go. I'm going to use my perception of her, too, for the same thing. I'm not going to look at her like she's a body you know, and that really comes out when you're in closer relationships with each other. The more you're around each other. Look at this, you guys the more you spend time with people, the more they seem to annoy you, right? Even saying take the most enlightened person you know and go live with them and see what happens, because what's going on is you're seeing your own reflection. Yeah, right, it's way easier to think they're fucking awesome when they're distant from you, but when you get close to them, you make them special automatically because you're seeing yourself and see, this is what a mighty companion does. A mighty companion looks past whatever it is that they made of you. See, notice that it's only when they become personal to you that you start getting all annoyed. Unless you're talking about Donald Trump, right, for people they're like, yeah, he's way over there, but I hate his orange ass or something like that. But you know, it's the same thing. You're making it as if it's personal, as if it has some kind of actual personal implications. It's refusal to see that this is all beneficial. We're all really benefiting each other, and the more we could take each other's hands and go home together, the happier we're going to be. And this is really what A Course in Miracles' main reason it was even ever channeled.

Speaker 1:

Helen Shushman said there's got to be a better way, because they weren't even able to get any work done, because these what were they? Some kind of therapist psychologist? They're all working together and they're in close quarters and they're at each other's throat so they can't get shit done, right? So she pops up and says there's got to be a better way. And then one of her companions in. That said, I'm with you. That's the two that Jesus needs to be in the midst of them, right, because they both, they popped out of that timeline, yep With one shared goal there's got to be a better way, and Jesus, and that was his opening. So that's how an atheist starts channeling Jesus.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, she always said I know it's true, but I just don't believe it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's not. Yeah, she didn't do it, she did it she. But you know what, if you, if you, if you read the new one with the notes, you'll see did it to a certain degree.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you mean the Robert Perry? No, the circle of the tongue. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

This one that I'm on, that I'm doing the deep diving.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's in the back of the latest foundation version, oh.

Speaker 1:

Right, okay, okay, let's just finish it off. We're really close, great, wow, and we will give this day to him with no reserve at all. We're not reserving anything for ourselves. This is his day, and so it is a day of countless gifts and mercies unto us. Yay, we're not excluding anybody Trump or Hitler or anybody. No, we're not. We're not excluding anybody. We want to see the beams of light all around. We want to see the rays of light come through everyone, because that's how we're actually going to see through when we start seeing. You know it says otherwise in A Course in Miracles that we're going to start seeing with our body's eyes apparently, halos around everyone. The more we purify our minds, yes, the more we purify our minds the great rays and it doesn't look like colors, like an aura, it's bright lights, just white. Yes, yes, that's right. And we see the holiness. We're going to start seeing the holiness. It's like having vision.

Speaker 3:

Yes, instead of seeing just from the physical eyes, we're seeing completely. Like when you say activate the third eye, we're seeing.

Speaker 1:

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