Relax Into Presence | Wisdom Dialogues @ Lake Whatcom | March 8, 2026

Relaxation sounds passive until you try it as a discipline. From the first minutes, we make the case that spirituality isn’t about becoming a better persona, it’s about relaxing into the presence you already are. When you soften the inner grip, desire stops feeling like a problem to solve and starts looking like information you can feel. That shift changes “manifesting” too: what you think you want is often a sensation, and resistance is what keeps you chasing it.

We take that straight into the real world with dating. I share what I’m learning on Facebook dating, including how fast expectations and sexual pressure can show up, and how powerful it is to name boundaries early without making anyone wrong. We talk about fantasies that race ahead of reality, why that creates pushiness and pain, and how to keep relating playful, honest, and grounded.

Then we widen the lens to healing and fear using A Course in Miracles style reframes. Sickness and symptoms become invitations to look at pressure and miscreative thought, while still being gentle with the body and using supportive tools. We also unpack how doctors, institutions, and even government can function as fear devices in the mind, especially after the COVID era. The practices are simple: come back to sensation, breathe, stop calling distraction “relaxation,” and let self-love be something you do with your attention.

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Transcript

Welcome And The Call To Relax

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Yay, aloha, and welcome to Wisdom Dialogues with Hope Johnson coming to you from Lake Whatcombe, Washington. Yay! Thank you for joining. I love you. Ah. Has everyone been finding more relaxation within lately? Um, it seems like nothing else, at least from my perspective, nothing else makes sense except to relax more. That's the only thing, you know. And when people ask me about spirituality lately, I've been like, it's basically a willingness to relax, like relax into the presence that you are, relax into just being who you are. And you know, like I've been talking about the past couple of weeks, that takes willingness to be totally confident in the self that you made for what it's useful, what its use is, and that's awakening your mind. So it's like being unapologetically the little self, even the little self that you made, accepting it, and even beyond that, having confidence in it, that it's bringing you to exactly the experiences that you need. You don't need to worry about it. Anytime you find yourself thinking about what you're gonna do about a certain situation, you can, if you want, let that be an invitation for you to relax inward. Because that's really what's gonna bring about the kind of uh even the kind of outcomes that you seem to want, because it's like this. Even when you have desires for worldly things, like let's say you seem to have a desire for a new vacuum cleaner, let's just say make that one up, okay? So if you don't seem to immediately like have the means, maybe you don't know which one to buy, anything like that, you can just relax into that it's being taken care of already. Now it may involve action on your part, and oftentimes it does involve action on your part, but the thing is, your action is not really your part. That's just really being played out. Your equipment is one way Jesus put it in A Course in Miracles, your equipment is your mind. That's what your real equipment is. So when you when you get the sense that there's something that you want that you don't have, that's the time to relax into it. It's already being made manifest. And, you know, the resistance to the manifestation is really what prevents it from manifesting. And what you know, people tell me they've tried all of the all of the things to be positive about uh the situation and to be okay if it doesn't come and all of that kind of stuff. But you know, it truly is whatever it is that you seem to want in the field, in the world field, it's really a vibration, it's really a sensation that you're looking for. So you can actually have that right now. There's nothing holding you back from being that which you think is gonna be in the future just right now without trying to change the self, right? This is what this complete confidence in the self of form is like. It's showing us. I know for me, uh, you know, what I've been seeing lately is just about what it is that uh that inspires me, like let's say about a romantic relationship. You know, I've been finding myself on Facebook dating, which has been really fun. It's pretty wild. There's a lot of action there. Um, but you know, I just simmer it down to a minimum that, you know, or a maximum that I enjoy in the process because, you know, it's like in the process of anything like this sense, like, what are you doing here? Like people ask me, what are you looking for on here? And I go, Well, I'm looking for relating, and that's accomplished right here. We got that done. We're doing that, we're relating, you know, and and then I'm open to whatever it is that unfolds in a joyful, uh, loving, happy, deep way. So it's fun because I have interactions with people and it's like I don't really, it's like being defined right now, what it is that I enjoy. You know, I get um messages from people, uh, some of them very young, some of them uh less than half my age, apparently. And, you know, I know we're eternal beings. There's nothing, you know, that tells me you shouldn't be together if you're like, you know, 25 and 53. Um, but it there is this life experience factor that I'm noticing. Um, and then and then at all ages, what I'm noticing is popping up for me. And I know everyone is me, you know, it's popping up for me. Of course, my kind of pattern is everyone just wants to have sex with me, you know. I was like, that's that's what seems to be. It's like, and and you know, I just keep on getting more open about that and um and bringing it out into the open, you know, and and noticing like there were there were moments where I noticed and pretty recently, because I just kind of got on to this kind of dating scene where you're like on a social app dating. That was like my first time just a few weeks ago. And uh, you know, it started out kind of wild and you know, like like uh letting people just like go right past my boundaries and stuff like that. And I was like, hmm, you know, I'm I'm more like in investigative mode, you know, just like kind of like watching and noticing, oh, how does that feel when my boundaries get get crossed like that? And you know, even noticing what are those, where do those boundaries pop up? Where do I first feel like I don't want to go any further? But then I kind of like give in to that energy, you know. So not to make the self wrong, this is what I mean. It's like full confidence in the self-of-form, whatever it's expressing, whatever the uh the experience is, letting that be the experience. So finding um like where where does it feel the most joyful to for me to be like, uh no, I'm not really interested in that. And uh last night I met someone for coffee, and um I noticed right away he wanted to have sex. I could just tell right away. And I'm like, you want to have sex? And he was like, he's like, no, oh no, am I saying something like that? And I go, well, you know, you you told me you'd like to see a demonstration of the blocks that I was talking about, block therapy. That's back at my place. And you know, the experience I've been having, you know, at first I was like, wow, I uh I seem to be naive. I know that's not really possible, but I'm like, I seem to be naive because two times I've brought dudes back to my place, next thing you know, we're boning, you know. So I'm I know I have a total play in that too. And I'm noticing, you know, it seems to be like uh if I don't be the feminine energy with the the feminine energy kind of slows things down. Okay, like well, wait a minute, let's wait until we have a deeper connection. Let's uh let's wait until this thing develops in a certain way. But I notice like my energy in that regard is somewhat masculine, maybe very masculine, because I'll get the sense that I'm turned on and I'm like, why not? Let's go. And then uh and and then I'll just be like, oh, you know, those don't seem to be very fulfilling. They don't seem to be like I have that, like, what actually makes that kind of connection, that close sexual, intimate connection, uh, even attractive to me. Like, why do I even want it? You know, and uh and and noticing, well, for the most part, what I've uh what I've seen is that I'm actually uh better off and more pleasured on my own than I am with uh random dudes that I date. So the guy last night, you know, I just I just told him kind of like I just told you guys right now, like this is the pattern that I've been playing, and I don't feel like doing anything like that at all. And I just don't feel sexual with you. And uh and then I met another another man um on a video chat, and I just go, I just don't have that. And I'm like, now I now I see I'm gonna wait for that kind of emotional, emotional connection, which uh allows like a romantic feeling to evolve by itself. And for me, it's just super fun, you know, it's just fun and playful. I don't need to get anything out of it beyond what is given. What's given is present in the moment. That's what's given. So allowing what's given to be the thing that that's not saying that's that it means that I need to have a particular kind of relationship from this person just because they're popping up in my field, but it's just what's given me in the moment to play with and to use for demonstrating to my mind that I don't have any need in this world. I have no need. And it see, that's what we're really we're demonstrating this through interacting. So, you know, that's why it's like through our relating, we get to see what we're uh holding, like limiting thoughts. We get to see what we're holding, uh, pain, internal pain. Um, and letting that be met with truth so it could be resolved, so it could be released. You know, you can get released from uh any kind of pain because it's an illusion, any kind of misery, any kind of loneliness. It's because you know it's an illusion that you can be released from it. Glenn says, Who's the perv shit show? Right. Yeah, yeah, I know all that, you know, is coming from myself. One of the conversations I was having with a young man today, uh, you know, he wanted to talk about sex on our first video chat. And I was like, I'm really not into that right now. And I don't, I don't want to go uh sexual on the first video chat with you. I'm not feeling that. And he's like, and I go, what are you what are you looking for? Are you just looking for sex? And he goes, and he's on e-harmony, like you pay for that one, you know. Uh so he's, are you on e-harmony for sex, just for sex? And he goes, and he goes, Isn't everyone on e-harmony just for sex? And I go, well, you know, yeah. I mean, yeah, that's kind of like it's it's it's kind of like this base human um desire. Even when people don't admit it, it's kind of like, yeah, so that I could be in that orgasm, that orgasmic state. I want to be with someone I can connect with that and uh and reach that state where my mind falls away. Yes, it's beautiful. Um it's just that that's you know, like what I explained to him, that's not the first thing for me. That's not the first thing I want to get to know about you. That's not the first, you know, that's not like the at the forefront like that. Um, it makes it very shallow. It makes for a very shallow experience for me, at least from my perspective. I'm not saying it's wrong at all. Whatever you guys want to do is fucking awesome. But I just got a little taste of that kind of culture, that dating culture where you know people just like kind of like get laid. Yeah. Uh tried that out a couple times and realized that's not really my thing. But again, not that any way is a wrong way, it's a matter of seeing which way resonates for ourselves and also recognizing I've been opening up to wow, I don't have to settle in any regard. You know, like I shared with the young man today. I'm like, I do not need to have sex with uh you or anyone else because you guys probably can't do it as good to me as I could do it to myself. So that makes no sense. And and and it's not even a way of someone doing something to someone, anyways. It's more like a connection, it's a deep connection. That's what allows uh a connection to be something that's uh more expansive, more beautiful than being by yourself. And that would be uh the reason for joining like that. That seems to me to be the only reason for joining like that. Reminds me uh about what we were going over in chapter two in our ACIM, a course in miracles deep dives, where Jesus is talking about how you've misunderstood what sex is for. And I'm trying, I'm starting to see that more and more as I go through it and uh and noticing, okay, we've seen it as a device, kind of like a transactional thing. Um almost like it's this exchange of energy, like you're worthy because I feel horny around your body. That's what I noticed. And that's why it's like it's like, ooh, that's that's really not the way I feel like relating with people. Uh it seems it's it's like it's some kind of a compliment. And this is what Jesus was talking about, too, how it's so disrespectful when we perceive our sexual attraction towards someone as something other than a miracle impulse. See? So uh a lot of the times most relationships are based on this kind of disrespect. Like I'm gonna use this person for this friction, basically. And they're uh that's what they're there for me for, and that's what this relationship is for. Instead of recognizing this is actually a healing impulse. It's way deeper than what it seems. Sure, okay, there may be some sexual play since you have sexual attraction happening, but that's not the reason for the sexual attraction. So the reason for the sexual attraction isn't to get you to have sex, that's really not even uh a thing that's relevant, whether you have sex or not. It's to get you to interact because you have some healing to do together. That's what it's really for. So Jesus was saying that sexual attraction is a misdirected miracle impulse. And so noticing it like that, and um also when it comes to any kind of fantasies, not allowing fantasies to go forward. You know, it's like recognizing that the fantasy isn't getting you anything helpful, it's not bringing you anything you want that you actually want. So it's not a matter of pushing the fantasy away, but recognizing that the fantasy that's occurring to your mind is actually a habit and it's not getting you where you want to go. It's not getting you anything good. So Glenn says, here I thought you had a thing for Canadian guys. Well, you never know, Glenn. We'll see. It's fun to see how the guys will, you know, light up when I just stop that sexual stuff. I at least so far, that's what I've seen. Kind of like, oh, okay, I can just relax. It's not like that. And then, you know, seductive kind of energy stuff like that. It just it's coming from the ego. This need to conquer. That's why some of the kids call it hills. They actually call their sexual accomplishment or complex. They call them hills. So along that line, also, any kind of uh like sickness that manifests in the genitals, that is like any kind of STD, yeast infection, dryness, discomfort, anything like that. That is a manifestation, and you know, this isn't to make anyone guilty about it. All thoughts are worldly thoughts, they're not so personal like you take it, but that is a manifestation of using sex in a loveless way. So using it for anything other than healing, and you know that really goes for anything, using it for anything other than healing, transactional, anything like that, and transactional can be very subtle. The transaction may be that you're trying to get warmth from the person who otherwise wouldn't be so warm with you if you weren't sexual with them. I've seen that play out in family dynamics. I've seen uh it with my sister and our uncle. You know, I could see that her acting sexual around him and one hugging him, grinding up on him like that, even though she thinks it's nasty that he's like in his 80s and he's a horny old man, she's still getting. Getting a perception that she's getting this attention. And the attention is the reason for the energy play. So, you know, these subtle energies at play. And I noticed that in myself too, you know, just being raised as a child to be like very sexual. I noticed that in myself when I was a kid. I could always get attention from guys if I would sit on their lap and act really sexual with them like that. And that's kind of like the beginning of using sex in a transactional way. And you see how innocent it is. I'm talking about a little kid, right? So you see how innocent it is. It's also uh it's also the ego. So it's also conniving. It's like innocent and conniving at the same time because it's like I don't really want to give that person sexual energy, but there's this subtle energy that's having me afraid that I might not be real if someone doesn't pay attention to me. See, so we have developed all these little strategies. And, you know, I kind of see them as patterns playing out. I can recognize these energy plays that go on where there's, you know, wanting to be seen, wanting to be desired. That's another thing, wanting to feel desired. One thing I notice a lot is I'll hear tri pretty much every day uh how I'm pretty. You know, guides will tell me uh how I'm pretty. And I'm just noticing, uh, oh, there's, you know, it's real subtle. And I'm again, it's innocent. It's not like a big deal or anything like that. Uh, and it's not wrong. Oh, there's this subtle like wanting to be out there. It's nice to be out there and having my pictures out there and having guys tell me I look pretty, right? And it's just noticing, hmm, because it's also staying open to where am I called to kind of like shut this down if that occurs. So not being attached to or needing this confirmation, yes, and to even, you know, uh uh agree with the thought that because people are still telling me I'm pretty, that I'm somehow still worthy, right? It's like, oh, this is nice. I have young men telling me I'm pretty. Uh and it's and there's a sense of uh there's an underlying and is a subtle sense of relief. Oh, thank goodness. You know, I have not gone all the way over the hill yet. Guys are still uh interested. They're interested in having sex with me. Apparently, I can score very young dudes uh for sex all I want. Um and it's like there's this sense of relief. It's like, oh, thank goodness. Well, that's false relief. And really, it's really just recognizing that that's ego relief. Just noticing that's what that is, it's ego relief as if that gives you something, as if it somehow gives you more love in life, right? So other than that, other than that, with the dating, things have been really slow. Uh, and even that's been going, you know, really slow. There's not too much time taken up in the day uh dedicated to even talking to people. Things go fast, it seems to just like weed right through. I'll have a couple of conversations with people, and and it's amazing how quickly they just move right through the field. And I'm loving it because I know how potent interactions are, and I know what our interactions are all for. So it's showing me uh, one, what I'm seeing a lot is how uh my desire gets pushed down with this energy of, oh, let's just see how it goes. Let's just see how the energy flows. What you know, what I seem to want or something like that, seems to go off to the side with let's just see how energy flows. And what's coming up is this uh this new way of being. I'm just noticing it just like arise. It's not anything I have to do to change myself or anything, but just to say right away, here's what I want. And that seems to be changing really fast. It's like here, it's like here's here's what I want. If you wanna, if if you want to relate with me, here's how I like it to be. I'm not attracted to you right now. So let's have some interactions, let's hang out, let's have some good times, no strings attached. Um and, you know, and then that's ongoing because throughout the interactions with the person, a lot of the times what I've perceived, and this is all I know, interacting with myself and you know, really just mirroring my mind, what I've perceived is I'll say, okay, I'll hang out with you like that, and then put a lot of pressure on me. So even the way I say that, I put a lot of pressure on me. It's like I turn that around in my mind and I recognize the pressure is coming from myself. I could just say what I want. And it's kind of like, that's enough. There's not a point where it's gone too far that I can't say, that's enough. Right? Uh, I'm done with that. It's like, no, I want more. No, I'm done with that. And you know, if you really don't want to hurt yourself, this is something that uh that that came up just talking with a friend recently who was telling me, yeah, I had all the fantasies about you. I thought we were gonna get married and uh and have a whole lifetime together. And I saw it, and I was, it was totally like I just wanted to be with you, and it was totally like my fantasy. And, you know, that's what ends up hurting our mind. For one thing, there's this whole fantasy projected without even any consideration for how do I feel about that? Like, am I one bit interested in doing any of that kind of stuff with you? Right. It seems like there's this training, like uh because you have this feeling like you want to do this whole thing with me, that that means that that's what's gonna happen. And that means it's good for you to start fantasizing about that, right? And what I've seen is when fantasies are allowed to run like that, it's like once we're interacting, it's like he's already in this fantasy that we're having this kind of relationship. Like this is the form of our relationship. So then he starts relating with me, and I'm like, whoa, this guy is like super pushy. He's like pushing himself right on me. What the heck? You know, and I'm kind of like, whoa, bro. I'm like, ah, so uh, so I could tell, you know, he didn't have to tell me that. I could tell there had been fantasies uh about me because of the way that his behavior was. So then when he told me about that later, I was like, oh yeah, that's it, that's why, you know, and it's like that I don't consider that a bad thing and I don't get mad at people like don't hang out with me anymore, kind of thing. It's just that I see the suffering in it, right? And I see that it's just a call for love. So it's not something to condemn about the person. It's just like noticing, okay, that's what they did. They went into fantasy, okay. Uh, you know, they're they're gonna see their way through that. It's not up to me to teach them. It's just up to me to demonstrate that that kind of stuff, it has no meaning. It just has no reality. Sexual fantasy hurts relationships in a way that it makes the person into a body, and when the person is made into a body, you're setting them up to be the cause of your upset feelings. Because it's demanding, the ego demands when it makes someone into a body and then it's seeking to get something out of the body like that, there's this possession that arises. And then this perceived need for it to be a certain way, for the person to be a certain way. And I've always perceived, you know, this is when people, this is when people really like me, when I'm just cool, you know, I'm just the cool chick. Right? I don't make any waves or anything like that. Okay. So noticing when waves need to be made, they need to be made. People may be offended.

unknown 32:01

Right?

SPEAKER_02 32:01

I'm not responsible for for how uh other people are choosing to respond to me. However, they're you know, if someone seems to be hurt by me, someone seems like their feelings are hurt by me or anything like that, what I see is that I'm getting a reflection that I could be gentler with myself right now. Okay, it's not like I'm supposed to fix their feeling. I could be gentler with myself right now. There's no need to fix that. It's recognizing that any kind of grief they're giving to themselves or anything like that, it's coming from miscreative thoughts. And my perception of it is showing me an opportunity to be gentler with myself right now. I was talking with a friend who was sharing that he keeps on getting the perception that his behavior is causing people pain and upset. And he doesn't want to tell those people that they're making their own upset feeling, they wouldn't understand that, and they just get pissed at them, get pissed at him. Well, you're not, let's say, supposed to tell anyone this stuff. It's just for knowing for yourself. If it comes out in come some kind of sharing that's guided, then that can occur. But it's for knowing it for yourself that that person isn't really upset for the reason it seems that they're upset, and you're reacting like you've done something wrong again, and you're wanting to fix the way that you are, is your habit. That's your habit. So where the peace comes in, and where the undoing and healing come into this pattern is right where you're beginning to analyze yourself to see if you've been doing a good job. And it could be anywhere along the way, you could be knee, knee deep and self-analyzing, knee deep in shame about it or anything like that. Anywhere along the pattern is fine for you to introduce a new pattern, a healing pattern. And how does that healing pattern get introduced in the midst of perceiving a recurring pattern where you've been apparently hurting people and feeling shame about it and wishing you can be different? How do you put introduce a different pattern? Feel number one, feel what it feels like to tell that story how you're ashamed, you shouldn't have behaved that way, and bring it to the truth. There isn't anything here, you're not communicating with anyone but yourself. You bring that to the truth, you get to see the pattern from a higher perspective. Let yourself let your uh vision expand so you can see your pattern from a higher perspective. How you play into this over and over again about how you've done it wrong somehow. You wish you would have behaved better. So then my friend asks me, well, what'll happen to all of my friends? And I'm like, fuck those guys. I mean, in this way where you think you gotta keep them somehow. You don't need to be in charge of which friends you even have. Look at let certain friends fall away that find your way of being offensive, that want you to be in their little tiny box. You don't have to try to sustain any of these relationships. That's not why they're given you, they're not given you to try to sustain them, they're given you to use them in the moment to demonstrate to your own mind that you do not want to keep this world and that you're worthy of creation. That's what it's for. So I shared with my friend, here's how it might look. Someone goes, you know what? For example, you really betrayed my trust when you said all that stuff on that public forum about me or something like that. It really did this. Like, oh thanks for letting me know. That's really helpful. You know, everyone is a hundred percent helpful, including you, but you don't have to announce that you're helpful, you don't have to prove to anyone else that you are helpful, you demonstrate helpfulness by seeing helpfulness in everything that your sight lights upon. It's all helpful. That's how you demonstrate to your own mind that you can only be helpful, and then you'll stop playing those kind of patterns like you've been unhelpful. And you'll start, you'll stop perceiving that whatever someone else is doing can be unhelpful. That's what I notice about the way I go about dating too. You know, I'm just so entertained. I'm just so entertained by however anyone interacts. And I'm entertained by my own responses, actually. You know, just like noticing where are my own responses, where are my own reactions, you know? It's like for me, it's like really obvious. Like, oh, I just got a sense that I wouldn't mind kissing that person, for instance. And it's just like really playful like that. Oh, what fun. I I had uh one guy that I was chatting at even asked me, because my face changed when I got the sense, like, oh, might be nice to kiss that guy, you know. And he noticed, he's like, What are you thinking? And I told him, and I go, don't get too excited about that. That was just passing. It was a passing thing. It does not mean that I'm gonna kiss you. So he's far away. Apparently, this guy's like, I don't know, 700 miles away or something like that. And uh he's he's like, Can I come over there? And I go, Yeah, I'd be happy to meet you for coffee or a meal or something like that. And he's like, I wouldn't end up coming over to your place. And I'm like, man, I don't know. I haven't met you yet. You know, you gotta be comfortable with coming over here, maybe to check out Seattle or check out Bellingham or something like that. And then you can meet me, and then we'll just see where the energy goes. But you're if you're coming for expectations or with expectations, it's probably not gonna be that fun for you.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

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SPEAKER_02 40:39

Anywhere we go, you pay. I have a I'm I'm a minister, I live off donations. You want to travel, you want to do anything, you pay. So, and it's not, it's it's not like I get mad at them if they don't, if they have a different way, you know, like if they want to take me on a date and take me to a shitty coffee shop or something like that. I'm like, oh, they are in the friend zone, and that's okay. That's not, you know, it's not a matter of like setting aside whatever preferences you seem to have or anything like that, just noticing, oh, and it's playful that way, it's fun that way. And your interactions are less likely to have outcomes that feel painful. That's the other thing. They're less likely, they're more likely to stay uh on the light side of things. Although for me, uh what my experience has has been is I just have deep emotional experiences whenever I'm interacting with someone, it doesn't matter. Uh, it's not like I'm necessarily like crying or I'm usually not uh expressing in that way like something's real dramatic or something like that, but I feel everything. So I have a deep, deep emotional connections with the people I interact with over time. I this it just occurs and I get a sense of, you know, I get a sense of that empathy kind of feeling uh really strongly. And I seem to be someone who's a grounding presence for a lot of people. So a lot of the times what happens with my friends is they start to rely on my grounding presence, which I'm happy to provide too. And then and and then also it's an opportunity being deep like that is an opportunity for me to extend love wherever there's calls for love and not hold people uh as if they're guilty for the way they be. Because I could see people's patterns. And, you know, when I speak them out loud and and express them, it's it looks like you know, this is in kind of like an evil, conniving way of being, but that is just how the ego is, and I could see that ugliness. I could also see the innocence at the same time. So I not I'm not rejecting of people. Um, although I do block them if they don't want to move past the sexual thing, and that's all they can focus on. I've definitely have run into some like that um and had, you know, a nice interaction, sweet interactions with them where I can kind of get a glimpse behind this whole sexual thing that's coming up as a almost looks like a big shield to prevent real depth in relating. Glenn, so fun. Really fatty bacon on the first date. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Mm-mm-mm. You're fun, Glenn. So we were going over sickness uh maybe a few episodes back, maybe uh two or three. I don't know if it was an ACIM deep dive or wisdom dialogues, but one of my friends contacted me and was asking about the sickness thing because she and her daughter had been experiencing digestion issues for what she said was a long time. And going, um look, she's she's playing, she's looking at in her mind and she's relating to me. I'm looking and it looks like I'm really peaceful, it looks like I'm really calm in my mind, it looks like I'm happy, even though I'm uh I'm having these digestive issues. And I don't want to bypass this at all. If there is a thought that's making these digestive issues manifest, I want to know what it is. I want to root that thought out, basically. That was the feeling sense that I got by the gist of the message. And the person is super tuned in, in my view, as well. And very grounded. The message was a very grounded sounding message message. It was just kind of like, hey, I want to see through this sickness thing and not have it keep on manifesting like this. Well, so this doesn't mean that you have to go investigating for a particular thought, like and it may not be just one particular thought, but more like patterns of thought that's making this kind of an effect. So it's willingness right now to use your body differently, because having an effect like sickness is already showing you that the body has been used for the ego's purposes, which is very common for us, you know. When we when we learn, okay, this is what the ego's purpose looks like when my mind starts going like this, this is what it looks like to pursue, to use the body to pursue an ego's purpose. That's what's going on, right? So it's noticing when you're having digestive problems, it's like uh seeming that there's pressure on you. Does it seem like there's some pressure on you? You know, just like gently notice that. Because a lot of the time, a lot of the times these thoughts are very subtle, but you don't need to go again like an investigator. Simply you're noticing I'm willing to use my body for the Holy Spirit's purpose, or you could say toward the atonement or for perfect love for communicating the truth in this moment. That's really the miracle. That's how the pattern's getting changed. So it goes from I'm trying to see how to get my digestion back, like changing my diet or taking herbs, or I recommend block therapy. I love block therapy for this kind of stuff. Get in the belly position every day, push on that shit that's in there. Um, it's fun, it feels good. But you know, none of this stuff works without the mind wielding kind of like a magic trick. See, and all of this stuff can go along with your healing. It doesn't matter, it could be any kind of herbal, whatever you do. Um, you seem to do. But it's the movement in the mind that actually brings healing, not just a soup superficial cure where your digestion seems to be a little bit better, but actual healing uh in the way that you see you don't need that pressure anymore. There's some kind of mental pressure. And you know, it's layered so much. It's given us in these little increments that we could take. You know, we can't take it all at once. We just die. We just kill the body. We take it all all on all the pain at once. But killing bodies in a dream, that's how we shut off the experience when the experience gets to be too much. So that's why it's not all coming up at once. It comes up kind of in layers. Are you willing to see that it's a manifestation of miscreation, misthought? Really, just seeing it generally like that, that the sickness is a manifestation of misthought and noticing how you're using the body right now. Are you using it to demonstrate to yourself who you are, the truth of your being? Or are you using it as if it has a cause in itself where you can cure it by worldly means? See, there's a little bit of a balancing right there as far as curing it by worldly means, which seems to manifest in your mind, allowing all those things to manifest if they feel joyful to you, whatever that seems to be, maybe you're fasting. Maybe you get the sense that you're fasting. But not letting that be a substitute for a true cure. Okay, uh it's talked about in a course in miracles that only forgiveness can be said to cure. So you're what you're doing is you're forgiving any kind of worldly cause. You're reversing the cause and effect, you're recognizing that any kind of sickness is actually coming from a miscreative thought, not personal. So I use this when I perceive someone else with sickness. For myself, I don't tend to perceive too much sickness in my own uh self-image, let's say. But I do get perceptions of others and people who I'm close to as if they've got some kind of sickness. One of them's got a doctor telling him that he's gonna die in a certain amount of time. Like he gave him the timeline that the doctor actually thinks that he's gonna die. So when I get the when I get a perception of someone else dealing with sickness, what I'm what I'm noticing in my own energy field is definitely feeling moved because you know that's just natural for us. Having this human experience is feeling moved by someone's sickness or suffering. So allowing that feeling, that feeling of feeling moved along with the truth. You know, the truth is that there's no real suffering, it's miscreative thought. It could be released in this moment where there's a willing mind for it, the mind to be willing for it to be released. So I let my mind be moved in that direction toward the truth. And it's, you know, it's a little bit of kind of like a dance, let's say, to not get caught up in the illusion. What are the specifics, you know? Um the specifics are not really relevant. You know, in this case, it's like it's kind of like a COVID, I told you so. That's what it looks like, you know? It's like first, it's like there's this COVID thing, and everyone's supposed to get the shots. Then the person gets the shot. Next thing you know, he needs something in his heart, a pacemaker or something like that. And everyone around him and everything is going, yeah, yeah, go and get that. Do what the doctors say so you can prolong your life. A few years later, they're going, that shit isn't working anymore. You need another one, right? Or else you're gonna die again. The story keeps on being, you're gonna die. So here's the thing with all perception, we're actually propping it up to tell us these things. So when we go, we get the perception we're going to a doctor, we're not really going anywhere. We're propping up this doctor as if he's a device, you know, like a mental device to tell us we're gonna die. Why is he telling us we're gonna die? Because we've gotten to the point where we're ready to check out, we're ready to check out because life seems so shitty. Really, that's what's going on. Life has seemed to have gotten so shitty that you don't want to go on. This is totally uh, it's it's like it's an intentional movement. And look, when you go to the doctor, don't they normally wear white robes? They're doing some kind of a magic trick. It's a magic trick on your mind to get you to believe that this is the case. So now this person's heart's all mangled. They've been taking taking the drugs, they've been doing the the surgeries and you know, taking all the advice, right? But since cause and effect aren't true, we can look at it like this. And he's willing to look at it like this. I just love this about him, too. Nothing actually happened. He doesn't have a real heart like that. His heart, what we call heart, you could say that's your innermost desire to know truth, to know yourself, know God is another way of saying it. That's the heart. See, so this is symbolic, right? Of the mind letting thoughts in that say, I want to keep this, but it's not good enough. So the mind unconsciously just wants another life, another chance to be young, another chance to try again with a different body, and that's why it's killing them off. That's why the mind is killing off. It's like this desire for death and a fear of death all the same time, and everyone's just kidding, you know. So that's how I'm looking at it. I just told my friend, well, if you pass away before I talk to you again, if you pass away, remember when you get over to the death realm, you don't have to come back here. That's the main thing. When you get over to the death realm, you get convinced to show up in this again instead of go to God. You don't have to do that. You're worthy of God now while you're having this experience. You're worthy of going to God now. You're just not choosing it right now. Myself included. Right? If I was choosing it all the way, there wouldn't seem to be any limitations here. I could just fly right up right now. Everywhere I looked, if I looked on anything that that looked like sickness, it would just be healed instantly. See, there's wanting this world, which is the reason why it's manifesting. There's a constant stream of thoughts gripping at this world, and that's the reason it's manifesting in our experience at all. There's just really nothing here. So, how do we demonstrate to that? You know, I've been noticing it's self-love. It really is in the moment. And uh, I ran across this guy's reels on Facebook. I do not remember the dude's name right now, but I might see him some more. Um, probably will, because I followed him. And he was talking about how simple it is to demonstrate self-love. And he showed one way to demonstrate self-love, how it is so simple. And it for him, it was just taking a smell of the air, just smell the air, swallow, and then blow out slowly like you're blowing bubbles. What's happening there? Why is that self-love? Why is that demonstrating self-love? It's because your mind is tuning into feeling sensation and away from repetitive thoughts. That's all it is, and so this guy's recommendations is to do that kind of sniffing, smelling the air, swallowing, and then blowing bubbles, not really bubbles, in the air, for two minutes five times a day, and it would change your life. I recommend that. Of course it would. Of course it would change your life. Because normally people don't give themselves two minutes like that to be focusing on body sensations and not repetitive thoughts. To do that, you have to be focusing on what you're doing. So what the ego has us doing, though, is going from task to task to task. And that task may even be just a video game. It's just something that doesn't allow you to tune in. That's what the ego wants. Something that doesn't allow you to tune in. And what I'm noticing, and I've noticed for a while, just getting that uh orgasmic, divine orgasmic sense going in the body's energy field really is just a matter of tuning this attention. And you can see that with Yoga Nidra too. Tuning your attention to sensations in the body. It doesn't matter what they are. And one thing that I've noticed is uh is like right down at the bottom of my core, and it may be the cervix, I don't know yet, but it's somewhere around that area. It's definitely around the perineum and stuff like that. There's some kind of interesting winding. And the what the way that I'm aware of that is when I put my attention to that particular spot, I can feel the tension. So, and and you know, I heard about like just recently, people are practicing putting their attention right there to the perineum. And I've noticed this over many years. As I've paid attention to the perineum, what I notice is my breath, it goes down to the perineum. Just odd, and that's from paying attention to the perineum. It's like, you know how they say where attention goes, energy flows. So, what I'm talking about is turning the attention back into sensation, whatever feels good to you. When I first started uh with sensation, it was my toes. You guys probably heard me tell that story about how I just became really aware of my toes. So a deep breath like that helps us to get aware. What I've noticed is it helps me to be aware of that that kind of area is symbolic of desire. It helps me to be aware of it and not just let it be used by uh whoever wants to use that sense for their ego, some ego gain. So to really be in awareness of it and letting it be settled. So it's kind of like uh the heart still leads, letting the desire be settled and be aware of the desire, the desire, not pushing it down, totally aware that the heart would lead you right to that desire, even though you don't actually know what you want. Because what's being desired is actually a sensation. The heart know you could say the heart knows. I'm talking about the spiritual heart here. It doesn't have anything to do with the physical heart, but the physical heart manifests the like the effects of thinking. And here's an interesting thing. We were going through with a Course in Miracles on Wednesday to not give miscreative thoughts any effects. So if the thinking, and you know, we've been back and forth with this through a course in miracles. I'm remembering now chapter two, where Jesus was saying, don't pretend like these thoughts aren't powerful, because sure they have no power of them their own, but being thought and your power being mental, when you fuel them with belief, they become very powerful in terms of they make you believe that shit ha shit is happening that's impossible. It can't even happen. And then we're coupling that with more recent teachings, where we are here in chapter three, where Jesus is saying the effects of miscreation must be emptiness. So it's like, yes, these are the effects of miscreation, but these effects are also empty. So a mangled ass heart that's been through it with something inside of it and all kinds of medication going in there, right? It seems like the cause is all these first, it seems like it's all these medications and surgery. And then you look deeper and you go, oh no, the cause is actually miscreative thoughts, the cause is actually miserable thinking. That's what it is, and then you go, oh, but those effects of miserable thinking are actually emptiness, they don't even exist, they're not really there. That's why healing can happen in an instant where even they go and they take an x-ray and they're like, shit, your heart is totally fine. There's not even a thing in there anymore. What happened to the thing we put in there? It doesn't seem to be damaged anymore. And that's actually easier to manifest. A healthy, vibrant heart is easier to manifest than a sickly, dying heart. They've told him the parts of his heart are dead. It's actually easier to manifest the healthy, vibrant. Heart. You know why? Because it's actually closer to the truth of what and who you are. The manifestation of a sickly heart takes a lot more energy to even uphold that. Look how it's justified, too. Just going to the doctor gives you something so that you can justify that your heart is in this way.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:29

Look, the doctor told me. Right. It's nothing to feel bad about, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:45

Of course. It's like at some point the body stops being helpful for as a communication device. It stops being helpful like that. And that's why it passes away. So none of this stuff is like an accident. It passes away. Uh the body rises and passes away right on time. So it could be the most beneficial to the awakening of all consciousness.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:21

It doesn't have any other purpose.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:50

I've seen it in myself where I felt like I wanted to check out. And I started having fainting episodes when I felt like I wanted to check out. And you know, my daughter reflected to me, Mom, you just really don't want to be here, do you? And I was like, that's the truth. I see that. And I wasn't willing to see that before, but I was like, Yes, I see that. Like it seems like this is so hard. It seems like it's so hard to live in separation. It seems like it's so hard to be uh seeming to be in a world where other people don't get it. Most people don't get it. It seems like there's no joy in anything that I do anymore, right? It's like uh all my life seems to be is a bunch of useless habits. You know, it's a matter of finding and knowing your purpose. That's what really uh seems to energize the body. And if you look at cause and effect, the bodies and effect of mind, so it really seems to energize the body and project it with vitality is knowing purpose, and in knowing purpose, it doesn't mean that you're supposed to go around and tell anyone anything. That's what I see a lot. It's very extractive, and see that doesn't bring on a sense of uh connection or contentment, just a sense like you have to go around and tell everyone things. You witness does not mean that you tell anyone necessarily, it couldn't manifest that way, but you don't have to. You witness to what's true. That's the whole thing, and in that you can just enjoy, and you know, people also seem to have particular habits. Distractions is one of them. The cell phone, the video games on the cell phone, the news, some alcohol, some smoke, anything like that. I'm not saying any of these things are bad. Just noticing what kind of sense you get. You might want to play around with something like this, where you notice, okay, I get the urge, like in my case, I like spliff, so I get the urge. I like to smoke a little bit of spliff, right? It comes up. And just to notice, okay, what is that? What does that feel like? Right? Not to just constantly feed all of these desires. Like internally, it'll be like, okay, I want that. I should just get it right now. Like stop, take a breath.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:24

And you never know.

Distraction Is Not True Relaxation

SPEAKER_02 1:11:26

You might go, oh, I could just sit here. That's one thing people don't do too much, is oh, just sit here. I don't have to pick up my phone. I could get a smoke in a couple minutes if I want. I can get a smoke anytime. What if I just sit here and feel and enjoy? You know, it's about getting into not what can I what can I do to make my experience more enjoyable, but getting into what it feels like to be enjoy. And it takes stillness for that to occur. It takes non-distraction for that to occur. And you know, maybe you go and you uh take a couple drags off the spliff, and then you come back in, or you stay out there where the spliff is. In my case, I go outside for it. And rest in being right now. Being is joy, being is joy. That's what I discovered going through vipassana meditation. All you're doing is sitting there, you've got no distractions. And that's where there is this discovery. Wow, or I would say rediscovery of being in joy. You know, I kind of had to go in that direction early on. So I keep leaving it and then coming back to it and leaving it again and coming back to it. But my experiences in childhood were uh pretty intense from my perspective, anyways. There just seemed to be a lot of activity where I felt like I wanted quiet. And there seemed to be a lot of brothers and sisters and little fights and things for me to do because I was the oldest and did all these different things. It seemed to be tight, right? So I learned early on to go within to the ecstasy within and to be in that place where I'd find myself in a like a tight space with all my brothers and sisters, and find myself in a state of bliss, in a state of sweetness and surrender. And then later on, it kind of let that uh that way, the way in, uh kind of got obscured for a little while. And then it wasn't until I was having my third son, where I was having a painless birth, where I really got in touch with that sensation again of you know, the way in to that inner sanctuary, that inner space where uh you don't mind if the body is sick, you don't mind if anything seems to be occurring on the surface, does not matter what it is. In my case, when it came around that time, I was apparently birthing a baby that was over nine pounds and got and you know, got that sense like wow, untouchable, invulnerable. Uh especially when I'm getting the perception that there's a big baby's head coming out and I can access that space while that's going on. So when I had that perception, that's going on 18 years now. When I had that perception, I was like, wow, I can handle anything. I am so strong because I can just go to my source. I can just be with my source. And that's what really anytime I've had that sense where I wanted to get out of here, check out, get out of this illusion, anything like that. It's because I'm not accessing that sense of being here, being present. That's regardless of any kind of circumstances, any kind of image of self that I made or anything, that is the kind of purpose that makes this life worth living. It's like being held by God in your own all-powerful mind. Nothing can move you from that. All that happens is that place and that way, that way to the place that you know within, you can say, gets obscured by worldly thoughts, by striving. What are you striving for? There's nothing here to get, there's nothing here to strive for. You know, a lot of the times my early striving days. Aloha. If you're just joining right now, I see people joining in the second hour. The time has changed. You guys are in Hawaii. That's why that's going on. The time has changed over here, so I'm showing up an hour earlier now. Yeah. I love you. So knowing that when you're feeling like you want to get out of this world, you're done with it. You're feeling done with it. That's when you're gonna start manifesting doctors to tell you that you're dying. Okay. That's when you're gonna that you're just you're you're propping them up. Remember, they're like a like a tool. You're using them as a tool to reflect back to you. You don't have to stay here anymore. Don't worry about it. You're dying. You're not dying. You just didn't find purpose. Okay? You didn't find that purpose where you're you're aware of your innermost place and you're coming from that innermost place. You've been distracting yourself. A lot of you guys, you know, I've been witnessing a lot of you guys who have done a course in miracles a bunch, you're going from distraction to distraction to distraction to distraction. You're keeping yourself distracted a lot. So the distraction itself, noticing here's how you do it. You don't have to stop doing any of those things. Noticing that you are distracting, that what looks like relaxation, let's say turning on the TV, watching the news, watching a show, watching a movie, or it's playing a video game on your phone. Noticing that that is not relaxation. See, we've been taught to think about these distractions as if they are relaxation. Relaxation doesn't come from distracting yourself. Relaxation, which actually leads to orgasmic bliss. The way in is relaxation, which actually leads to orgasmic bliss, does not take anything in the world, but things in the world can take away from it in your mind because you're making those things as if they can get you what you want. They can't, they can only be distractions.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:38

And again, not making the distractions wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:41

It's possible, pretty possible, that after I'm done with this show, I will be rolling a spliff. Very possible. I mean, anything could happen, but um uh again, I'm telling you that because I don't want you to think that any of your distractions or any of your habits are wrong and need to be stopped or fixed by you. I just want you to recognize that that is not where your happiness comes from. Doing your habits, doing your distractions, that is not where your happiness comes from. Your happiness comes from you, knowing your purpose in living this life. And then it's not gonna matter what the circumstances are, even if you seem to have a sick, dying body and a half-dead heart, and a doctor just told you you're gonna fucking die. You got this, you got this long to go. Isn't that funny? They really believe it, they're invested, they're heavily invested in your body being real, and they're heavily invested in what they perceive being the truth. That's also a call for love for the doctors themselves. See that? Instead of trying to convince the doctor that they got it wrong, that they're making things up, that they're relying on illusions to make more illusions, murderous illusions. You can see that pattern and recognize that pattern playing out and extend compassion for them. They are solidifying their idea that death is a reality over and over again with all these patients thinking that they know when they're gonna die because of what they seem to see.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:53

And you know, the whole lineup too, it starts with the COVID shot, right?

COVID Conditioning And Government Fear

SPEAKER_02 1:22:01

And it's like also observing him having people around him who want him to get the COVID shot to protect the grannies and all this kind of conditioning coming through, right? And then at the time, you know, it's all this information is coming out saying the COVID shot leads to heart problems for one thing, blood clots and these different things. And then that seems to manifest, and then another thing seems to manifest. It's like, God, does this guy ever like make a choice that's for truth and freedom, or does he just only follow the fucking conditioned mindset over and over again? You know, the fearful, call it follow the fearful mindset over and over and over again. And it doesn't have any real effects to follow a fearful mindset, but it sure as shit does look real to the person who has followed a fearful mindset, and it looks real from my perspective. I'm not gonna say it doesn't look real, and also it feels real. I feel moved by that. This is a close friend of mine. I love him very much, I feel moved by that, so it's a matter of holding. Okay, there's obviously sickness in the mind that chooses fear over and over again. You can see that, obviously. Nothing's wrong, it just needs to be forgiven. Forgiven means you're canceling out all of the effects of fear, you're not making it as if these fearful things that you've perceived, where people seem to be making some stupid ass choices, right? I mean, any of us who have followed the COVID thing and saw how that thing went down, you're like, man, am I just living around a world of fucking idiots or what? Right? So looking at that and recognizing, okay, it's all coming from me. I don't want to make illusions true. It sure shit looks like I was right, and this is true for a lot of you who listen who are listening to me too. Not all of you, but a lot of you. Um, and now here's the effect. Kind of like there's a sense of like, man, what the fuck? I'm pissed, and just being honest about that. Like, look at it. I'm feeling pissed that people have been abused in this way, so that they believe fear leads to a cure. They're gonna take poisons, they're gonna take all this advice that ends up poisoning, burning, or cutting. These are the tools that they go for. The fearful mind goes for, these are the three three things you can get. And fear, you know, fear leads to suffering, fear leads to death. And then at the same time, what are these effects? What are these effects of fear? Nothing. They're also nothing. So the compassion is recognizing that this is a mind calling for love. What is a call for love? We are seeing the truth of their mind, that their mind is all-powerful. And it doesn't have to, there's no such thing as karma. It doesn't have to accept the effects that are being presented. You know, like as in those are really effects. These effects are emptiness, they do not need to be accepted. There does not need to be another trip back to the doctor who's telling you over and over again, if you do this, you're gonna live longer. Oh, just kidding. Actually, that's fucking killing you. So the the same pattern doesn't have to be played out. You know, like I shared with my friend earlier on when he came and talked to me before getting the surgery. I'm like, hey, you can't get it wrong. Go with what feels less fearful to you. Does it feel less fearful for you to get the surgery or not get the surgery? Because it really doesn't matter. It's the way you look at it. Recognizing the surgery is not going to help you or harm you either way. This is the way to see it. It's not going to help you or harm you either way. Go with which the least fearful or the most inspiring, if one of them's more inspiring. I know for me, I would probably just feel inspired to embrace the situation without trying to cut something, burn something, or poison myself to try to get rid of it. Anything but that. Okay. Uh uh I I'd probably try some different things, uh, recognizing that my mind is making magic tricks. The beautiful thing about knowing that your mind is making all magic tricks, if you're gonna make a magic trick of healing, you can use something that you enjoy, something that you might like. You know, and that's exactly what I do. I mean, I make magic tricks of healing. All the time. I mean, always there always seems to be this inspiration to help circulation get better, strengthen skin, um improve vitality and stuff like that. The means I use to make these magic tricks, remember, it's all magic tricks, because all perception is coming from the mind. So the entire body is projected by the mind. I make magic tricks that I enjoy. Right? One of them's block therapy. I know you guys have heard me talk about that. Block therapy doesn't even want me, apparently. They give me season desists, desist notices notices. They don't even want me talking about them, I don't think. But uh I still do because what a lovely way to spend some time just being aware of sensation, aware of pain that's being projected on the body. The pain that's projected on the body, that's symbolizing miscreative thoughts. That's the pain is projected based on miscreative thoughts. I love to approach that in a calm way, in a sweet, calm way, not like trying to hurry up and soften, get this deformities off of me. No, it's more like approaching the pain, which is symbolic of fear, and not with again with an investigator hat on or anything. Really just approaching it in a somatic kind of way through the body sense, feeling it, letting it spread out. The approach that we've been taught for healing stuff has to do with being very aggressive with ourselves. That's why we would settle for something like that. And this is how what it looks like right now, faith in this medical pharmaceutical conf complex is being very challenged now because more and more people are seeing that when they go down that path of burn poison cut, all it is is more of the same. You start out with one and then the and and then it just becomes really easy to keep getting them. Tony was telling me about his dad after his dad passed away. He had a file of all of the surgeries that he had. And I forgot how many surgeries it was, but he had a file on it. He had it all documented. It's like he just went on this exploration and adventure in getting shit cut out of the body. That's one way to do it. That's one way to go out the end of a lifetime. Just keep on getting shit cut until there's nothing less left to cut anymore. Right? This is an effect of a fearful state of mind. And see, when you're finding yourself surrounded by people, and people are even, you know, they believe in this medical pharmaceutical system that's set up. They believe in it as being actually healing. So they're around you going, if you love me, you'll go to the doctor and do exactly what the doctor says. You know, if you don't do that, you're not being an integrity. Man, I'm gonna be pissed at you if you die and you didn't go to the doctor and do what they told you to do. But if you go to the doctor and you do everything the doctor tells you to do and then you die, that's okay. As long as you do what they tell you to do. How insane is that? Right? And then there's this desire, this ego desire to keep the connections that you have and don't piss the people off. Make sure you stay in their box that you wouldn't go, fuck you guys. Right? I love you guys, and I I appreciate your opinion and thank you for caring. That's another thing. Thank you for caring. People care in this way. They're telling you to go cut yourself, burn yourself, and poison yourself. They care in this way, they don't know, they're following insane thoughts. So the way to help them isn't to join them in insanity. You don't go insane with them. You thank them and you let them know you like this path. Ah, this feels good to me. You know, in 2016, I had a doctor with all the evidence show me that I'm about to die. Basically, she's going, I don't know how you're sitting here. You shouldn't even be able to sit up straight. Because this particular marker, I think it was adrenals, is so low that it defies any reason that you could even be sitting here. I had to run a test three times to make sure this is really true. That this particular marker is this low. I just started laughing. I was like, oh, I really gave myself a good one here. That's good. I shouldn't even be sitting here. I should just go home and get on a hammock and not do anything ever again, or until my energy comes back.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:25

And I could see how I was using it.

Freedom Is Mental Not Physical

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SPEAKER_02 1:34:27

It was really obvious to me. I was like, I was just, she's like, I'm the doctor's like, I'm telling you that you are like literally in danger of dying any moment, and you're laughing. Why is that? And I go, I just think it's funny that I set this up for myself. So I'll tell you what, I went along with the protocol, it did not turn out well for me. And this was a natural pathic doctor where I was just taking handfuls of pills that were supposed to be healthy, and it did not go well. And I just after three months of doing everything according to protocol, I started listening again. And oh, that doctor was like, you don't understand if you stop doing what I tell you to do. This was 2016, like nine years ago. If you don't stop doing start start doing what I tell you to do, I know. This is a natural pathic doctor. I know your body. And if you don't do things the way I tell you to do, you're gonna be sorry. That's basically what she told me. And then her husband told me the same kind of thing. Like I'm, and I just, I just go, I I know, I hear where you're coming from, and I appreciate you. And I trust the process. I just trust the process. I'm not buying, I'm not buying in, basically, I'm not buying into fear anymore. I stopped buying into fear, I just started listening for my guidance. I was kind of like, well, if the body dies, the body dies. I'm gonna live my purpose right now, and my purpose is to not be fearful, right? Another really useful thing I saw coming across my Facebook reels. Uh, it was a really sweet video. It was a man with his daughter on his shoulder on his shoulders, and he looked really natural, and they looked to be seemed to be in a natural place. And then the voiceover was about all of this stuff that's come out with the Epstein files and people being trafficked and babies eaten and all that kind of stuff. And he's going, and what do we do about this? And it switched to where it just gave all these snapshots of pages in the Bible where it said, do not fear, do not fear, do not fear, do not fear. That's the thing. Everything, everything in the world is ramped up like right now because it's reflecting a lot of fear. Because when people buy into fear, the powers that we put in control get to stay in control. Their control is justified by fear. We wouldn't even have a thing called government if there wasn't this belief in fear, this idea of fear. The whole reason is it's just like it's like this grand agreement to believe that fear is real and it needs to be contained. So then we end up with governments and they make laws. And see, we're putting them in power out of fear. And all these different, all these different systems that we have, like the educational system, we're putting them in power to train our children's mind, completely brainwash our children into believing that they're limited, believing that their value is based on what they can do in the world. See, they're trained to that. They're trained to trust doctors, right? And trust the government. The government has your best interest in mind. The thing is, the reason the government does not have your best interest in mind is because you haven't been released from fear. When you're released from fear, like I'm saying, as a collective, let's say, the collective mind is released from fear. You don't need a government. You're trying to manage fear. That's what it is. So for me, someone having my perceptual abilities as a young girl, seeing people believe in this stuff, seeing people know this, uh, thinking that this stuff is the real deal. This is how uh we should live by listening to what they tell us to do on the news, right? Thinking that we should live this way. It was scary for me. Like I actually needed to, and there it is. That's just another way fear arises. You see that? So it's like for those of us who see the game where it's meant to make everyone afraid, that then becomes the reason to be afraid. I've heard people say, I'm not afraid of the government. I'm afraid of the people who are like zombies listening to what the government tells them to do. And we got a nice taste of that during COVID, didn't we? People telling on each other and and uh and not letting you um breathe freely, right? Like your enslavement makes my enslavement not so bad. Yes, governing the mind, government, it's what it means. This is intentional. Consciousness was very intentional about this when it first started, however long ago government started. I don't know when that was. It was a long ass time ago, I'm sure. But it's all happening now, too. So at the time it's chosen, we need a government, you can help undo that too. Anytime you think the government is helpful for something in your life. Anytime. That's a habit. Habit taught to you. It doesn't help out with anything, there's nothing helpful about it, uh, except for it's helpful in showing you. Just like everything else, it's helpful in that way, in showing you. It's showing you the effects of thinking in separation, and also that the effects, these fearful effects, are nothing. So by pointing our mind in this direction, eventually over time, I don't know how much time it takes, but eventually over time, just from pointing our mind in this direction, we want to see that even miscreative thoughts have no real effects. That's how we're gonna be able to see through the seeming effects and be a healing force, anything that our sight lights upon. So, you know, don't be focused on the outcome like, oh, I need to see instantaneous healing. You know, sometimes it takes the manifestation longer to catch up with the mind that's just willing to see that any sickness, fear, disease that's being looked on, it's actually emptiness. It's not really there and it could be undone in an instant. And in fact, it will be undone in an instant. Okay. Since it's not really there. So it's only your mind that gets released from this grip that miscreation can have any effects in the first place. It can't. It doesn't have any effects. It doesn't matter what the story is. I only tell you stories and I only tell you specifics so you can relate it with your own experiences, what's going on in your experience. Um, I totally appreciate all of my friends showing me these different manifestations and giving me the opportunity to unpack them here. Um, and I know it's leading to seeing perfectly clear that none of this stuff has any justification in reality. And it comes to an end. Consciousness itself has a beginning and it has an end. We are pure awareness, creating in creation, where all of our created our creations are holy loving and eternal. Ah, this one's a real wing dinger. YouTube ready. Oh, huh? Okay. I see what you're saying. Yeah, YouTube might not like it too much. Well, I don't know. It seems like the climate has changed, even with respect to YouTube. Like it seems like there's more free speech happening now. We'll see. I'll probably forget I said any of those kinds of things and let it go to YouTube when the time comes that I post it. So we'll see, we'll just see how it goes. There seems to be more freedom, though. They seem to definitely be off of my case at this point in time, except Venmo still doesn't want to do business with me because I'm somehow a shady character. And I still take that as a compliment. Freedom has nothing to do with government, it has nothing to do with your state of health because freedom is mental freedom, not physical freedom. There's no physicality really to be free because it's just a reflection of a mind. So it's the mind that gets released from what it made, and then that gives you the sight, the vision to recognize that what you made is perfect for what you need. You can have full confidence that the self you made is perfect for what needs to be accomplished in your mind and what will be accomplished in your mind. You're just going to keep on having manifestations and swimming through lifetimes until you're willing to be released from this world entirely. All that's holding it to us is unwillingness to be released from it because it seems like there's something we can find in this world. And so many people I'm finding are holding out for that perfect special someone. If I get that special someone, then I'll be ready to release the world. No, that's not how it is. You're ready to release the world because you're ready to release the world. The special someone that you're looking for is you. It is actually you. You're not going to be finding it in a person outside of yourself. You may meet someone who reflects your relationship with yourself. You may meet someone like that. But first, it takes knowing yourself and loving yourself and being content with the self that you made and recognizing when you're really just trying to run away from the self that you made by going to all of these distractions all day long, because that's what gets the mind into a state where it's like, I just want to get out of here. And remember, the distractions are mental. So it's not the physical thing that you seem to be doing, it's the mental, it's the way you're using it. Notice the thoughts that are coming up. So many times people are using their distractions to make themselves guilty for doing the distractions. That's really where the distraction is. And look at this: if you're using the distraction to try to convince yourself that you're not guilty, that's another way the ego uses the distractions. Well, I'll just do all these distractions and then I'll convince myself mentally that I'm not guilty for doing the distractions. See, the thing about a distraction is you're not taking joy with that experience. Joy with that experience is where you're actually able to feel in the body's energy field. That's how you bring joy into the world. You can feel, and it's kind of like a little dance where you come up against these blockages. And it's like, oh, again, you just keep on getting released from this tension that you're putting on. That's for one, not allowing the breath to get all the way down through the perineum, let's say. Right? It takes a couple seconds to allow things to deepen, to settle in. You could still be doing your distraction at the time. Let's say you're watching TV, you're watching your news show. Notice how your mental energy goes out with watching the show or even a TV show or something. Bring it back. Put your attention on the sensations in the body's energy field. When you're eating, notice the sensations on the tongue in your mouth. Notice the sensation, how it feels to chew and swallow. This is really how you demonstrate to yourself that you're lovable. You're taking a moment to really have the experience without overlaying a story about the self that you made and how it's not good enough. Coming into a sense of self love is kind of like coming in for a landing. You're allowing whatever it is. It may be pain in the body. There may be some kind of sickness. There may be some kind of apparent weakness in your experience. Right? But you find that inner temple, that inner dimension. You might not even say, like, it's inner is one way of saying it. But inner and outer, they're the same thing. Your way to it is through the feeling sense, allowing yourself to feel it is ecstatic in the feeling sense. Once you pass through this thin layer, it's like a thin veneer of fearfulness, defensiveness. It feels like, oh, don't touch that. Go away from it. And the only reason the ego is afraid and doesn't want you to touch it and go to go to go away from it is because the ego doesn't want you to know how much ecstasy it is to just be yourself exactly as you are, with whatever apparent habits you have, whether those seem to be mental or physical, whatever, with whatever they are, and being able to relax within that. See, so many times what I witness is people doing their habits, but not enjoying them. The whole purpose of any of anything is enjoyment. This is where the healing is. Enjoy that experience, even if it's a shitty experience. Enjoy that experience. What do I mean by that? You're always having a sensational experience. And right underneath any kind of repulsion at the experience itself is your pure sensation, God being that cannot perceive any of this grief or misery or anything like that, that only lives in pure ecstasy. If there's anything to find, it's that sanctuary. And as soon as possible, that's the only thing to be really be in a hurry about. Knowing that you can be in it, you can allow it for yourself. And that's, you know, exactly like even how I give these talks. I just allow myself to be in that. Uh you know, uh a deeper and deeper uh sensation of being here. I don't know the literal translation of this, but uh little literal translation of this, but uh in Hawaiian, uh there's something that said it's kind of like it's called basically calling in yourself to the moment. That's how I saw it. And the way they say it is really powerful, too. Um it's a ku mao mao. And what I was told by the Hawaiian kahuna about that is it means I am here. I am here, I am the source of all ecstasy, all love. I am presence, I am perfect, I am innocent, I am here. Irrespective of what this image looks like, this image can present as a fucking idiot at times. Irrespective of that, I am here. How am I here? I'm experiencing I'm experiencing this form, this self that I made, this world that I'm projecting. I'm experiencing it. And the more I allow myself to experience it fully as a feeling sense, as an immersive experience, the more ecstatic it becomes. It doesn't matter if it shows any kind of conflict or confusion or lack of wisdom or anything on the surface. What I know right now is a coup, mao. I am here. See, that's the that's the ecstasy of being. And it doesn't matter what else arises out of that. The ecstasy of being is this is it. I am here. And when I experience a feeling of less than like, let's say uh disappointment, something seems like it didn't just go my way. Woo! It's the same thing. I want to have that experience completely because something even seeming like it didn't go my way is a habit. It's a habit. Let me get the full experience of that habitual effect that I've been giving myself. That's how I see through that illusion. That's how things get lighter and lighter in the field. And that's how eventually our mind won't even be able to tolerate a sick person. That doesn't mean you're being a dick to them. It means they may perceive sickness on themselves, but you can't even get that perception. And then your sight takes it away from their perspective as well, provided they also have the faith for it. See, you're not gonna give someone healing who is gonna be fearful about it. That's the thing about having the faith for it. When you have the faith for it, it means that you can accept feeling or you can accept the healing without being fearful about it. So it's as much healing as you your mind can accept without fear. That's how much healing you can get. And you know, we may not realize it, but the reason why we don't just perceive instantaneous healing, it's because it would be too fearful at this point in time. So that's why our goal, and um you could say our function being forgiveness is really to help us be relieved from fear. Because once we're released from fear enough, then we can start seeing things truly. And that doesn't include sickness or conflict or anything to that effect, aging, death, anything at all. Uh, that speaks to the way the world trained us. So hooray, everyone. Thank you for joining. I love you so much. I'll be back again on Wednesday. Um, last week I said it wrong, apparently. I said I'm here Mondays and Wednesday, but no, I'm here Sundays and Wednesdays, 3 to 5 p.m. Pacific time. And Pacific time just went on a different time. I don't know if it's daylight savings or what it is, but we're on a different time now. So if you're in Hawaii, that's gonna be noon your time. So yay, thank you for joining. And uh go to hopejohnson.org. Please feel free to support the wisdom dialogues and ACIM deep dives by donating to my nonprofit ministry. Um, that's right on my website. There's a donate button there. Also, if you haven't checked it out, I've recorded all 365 a course in miracles lessons with contemplations. Those are available on the website, hopejohnson.org. They're also on podcast stations. If you searched uh Hope Johnson ACIM, you'll get those lessons. If you search Hope Johnson Wisdom, you're gonna get talks like this. This wisdom talks and also ACIM deep dives are on there. So yay. All right, I got another comment. What do you call a gay with a small dick just in? All right, I love it. Fun. That's a fun one. Thank you, Brittany. Thank you to everyone who joined. I love you so much. And until next time, Mahalo. Aloha. Hooray. I love you.

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