Choose Certainty Now | Wisdom Dialogues @ Lake Whatcom, WA | April 26, 2026

Your mind can turn anything into a fight for meaning, even the shape of the Earth. I start with big, attention grabbing topics like symbols, astrology, flat earth debates, and “are aliens real,” then bring it back to the only place change actually happens: the instant a thought tries to complete its arc and you choose not to follow it.

We talk A Course in Miracles in a very lived, everyday way. When a sensation or emotion shows up, the ego rushes in with a story that pins the cause on the world, another person, your body, or your past. I share a practical method for cutting that loop off gently, without shame or forcing, and why “pain has no purpose” becomes real when you stop using discomfort as proof that something is wrong. From there we move into relationships, boundaries, and the deep freedom of relating without need, earning, bargaining, or performance.

Along the way, I tell stories about social media triggers, cancelled travel plans, solitude, humming as a regulating practice, and even phone games as a mirror for how we manufacture “problems.” The thread that ties it all together is certainty: not something you achieve through perfect meditation, but something you choose right now. If you want more peace, more emotional stability, and a cleaner spiritual practice that actually works in real life, this will land.

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Transcript

Welcome And How To Join Live

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Aloha and welcome to Wisdom Dialogue coming to you from Lake Whatcombe, Washington. Yay! Oh, I'm so happy to be here with you. I ended up entering the live stream weird on Substack. So if you didn't see it and you want to be live with me, join the Zoom. You can find it at hopejohnson.org. By the way, hopejohnson.org has been updated so it's easier to find all my free resources right from the home page. So have fun with that. Hooray. Oh yay! So um apparently we're in the year of the fire horse. And you know, all these things are just symbolic, they kind of all go together. The illusion always seeks to uh explain what seems to be going on in the consciousness. So you can even say that the consciousness itself arises and projects the constellations that we think we see, right? And speaking of constellations that we think we see, you know, there's this ongoing debate about whether there's a flat earth and uh and whether there's a round earth floating around in space, right? So it came to my attention that in the Bible it actually talks about a firmament, like God placing a firmament over the earth that's impenetrable. So then I'm like, what if no one's ever really been to space? They're just kidding. Uh, you know, they've done all these, you know. I know that's what this conspiracy theories are saying, too. The you know, what if no one no one's even been to space? And you know, here's the thing, and like if you if you want to know a really clean interpretation, a clean, a really clean way to look at all of this, is that the world is a projection. So earth itself, in whatever way it seems to be

Symbols And The Projection Of Reality

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to you, that's it. Basically, you know, if you were to look at the earth without uh, let's say uh guilt in your mind, you wouldn't see form. There wouldn't be form. So whatever is being presented to you, and it's it's just that is that's earth for you. That's what earth is for you. And you know, if you make it round or make it flat, um, either one of those makes it into something, uh, makes the earth into something. It's not anything, it actually doesn't have a form, it actually does not. And then the question of aliens, you know, that's been coming to mind too. Uh it's like, and and with that, you know, I've heard about aliens living under the ground and these different and you know, one man was talking about having seen an alien from under the ground, or are not even just one, but having been like working with them and just like his demeanor and the way he felt, he was like so like that dude went through that. Whatever that was, that dude went to went through that. So it's not a matter of are they real and are they not real? You know, it's like look at anything can arise in an illusory perception. We've uh we've been keeping it kind of like closed in this way, uh, where we just perceive ourselves as bodies with our little lives going through our little lives, doing our our things from day to day, going nowhere, really. Well, the way a course in miracles puts it is every path in the dream leads to death. That's uh that's how a Course in Miracles puts it. Every path uh that that we dream of just leads to death. Now, here's the things thing about uh thought patterns too. You know, every thought pattern about the world only need only leads to death as well. So if you take like let's take the flat earth, round earth example, right? So you could take anything, you could even take a course in miracles, and then you make that your position that you're holding really strong to strongly to, that's where you're you know, you're using that thing to keep on propping up the world, to keep on propping up the world, making it solid in your view. Look, every time you try to convince another person that the world is this way or is that way, you make the world for yourself, right? So, what I like to do is is is like watch what I'm saying, what I'm making real, right? You know, a lot of the times when people are angry and they don't realize and they think they're seeing some guilt in another person and they try to point out that guilt in another person and kind of like make that person see that they're guilty, you know, what's going on is needing to escape, needing to get away from that. It's the same kind of thing, it's really all the same kind of thing. I mean, really to say the earth is anything other than our projection is to make it solid, make it have meaning in a worldly way. Okay. So it's like the invitation is to go beyond the facade, what's painted on top of uh of the of the world, um, because it's just your psyche, right? So you're just like releasing the world from the things you made of it, period. Just keeping on releasing. And you know, that comes up in a lot of different ways. Like I've seen it come up in my mind. Um uh one one cute funny thought. I shared this on ACIM Deep Dive too. Uh a thought crossed my mind, wow, I have not been getting hugged. Like I've been staying by myself, not getting not been getting any hugs, right? And the ego, I see it immediately try to make it mean something. Like it's gonna be uh I can't, I can't feel what? What why do I need a hug? The ego's gonna say, you know, there's scientific evidence that says, you know,

Flat Earth Debates As A Mind Trap

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you need this, you need all these hugs and all this other stuff. Um, so I can notice that that is a that's a draw on the energy. It's making something in the perception into something. And look, isn't the world just full of ideas that say that that this is the reason for your feeling upset? No, the feeling, the upset feeling is just something that's arising and passing, and then it wants to make some meaning about it, it wants to make something mean something. So, you know, it's like these thoughts really they need to be interrupted midstream. Okay, and that's not to make anyone feel bad or wrong for not interrupting them midstream, right? It's like you you really want to use everything uh gently, all teachings gently with yourself, right? Because you are pure innocence. You're not uh you're not something that learns through pain, let's say. You don't you don't have to learn through pain, okay? And it's not and and that's the the thing about projecting a guilty consciousness on yourself is that you it makes it difficult for you to learn because you're harboring the pain instead of opening up. See what I mean? So you wanna get to the point where you see these thoughts that are about the world mid-stream, don't let them complete. They do an arc, they do like an arc, just don't let them complete. See, uh, it's the mind, it's that the mind is unwatched for the most part, that just below the perceptual level, uh, but still in consciousness, these thoughts are just allowed to persist and automatically be believed. But when you make it a point to look at them instead of pursue them, I'm gonna give you an example of the difference between looking at a thought as a meaningless thought or pursuing the meaningless thought. Okay. So take the uh take the thought that I have a headache because uh I don't get enough hugs, for instance. Um pursuing the thought would be letting that thought form complete and then going kind of almost like tell me more. Almost like, how do we fix this? Or going into oh poor me. This is so sad. That's how you pursue it. There's lots of there's lots of ways you could take it in in pursuit. Okay. Uh so the not pursuing it is noticing uh oh, that doesn't mean anything. Right there, it just cuts it off. And you know, when you're first starting to see this way, it may be that the thought is very persistent and be put be pulling on your energy, right? It feels like you can't just leave it. It reminds me of kind of like when people are training a dog, right? They ever train a dog and you train them to leave it, you'll leave it, leave it, and the dog's like, I really want it, I really want that. You're like, leave it, and you keep on training the dog that way. This is kind of like what you're doing with your mind. It is the mind's like, I really want it though. This is important, this means something. The thought is telling me a reason why I have this emotional or physical pain or stuckness or whatever I seem to be going through in the more in the moment. The thing to see is these moments are passing. It's a passing moment telling us that something, you know, something in it is wrong. Something in it needs to be corrected. And when you just don't let that thought complete in your consciousness, you don't pursue it, you don't try to massage it, you don't try to argue with it, you're just like, that's a meaningless thought because nothing is wrong. Right? Uh, it's uh it's interesting uh having a conversation with someone who's projecting that something is wrong with me. And I got to have some uh uh some experience like that lately because I posted on Facebook something that was super triggering apparently for a lot of people. Um and it was also super awesome for a lot of people, you know, once they saw what I was talking about, it had a hook in it, you know, it's like it started out with dear men, so that's already a hook, right? And it's we don't care about apologies, excuses, and such and such anymore, you know, and so uh and so then it went on to talk about, you know, like hey, we're not playing that kind of dynamic anymore where we think we are dependent on you. So therefore we're not accepting these things. And here's uh here's what's great. Here's

Aliens And Anything Can Appear

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also what changed is that we're also not playing these kinds of games with you that we used to be playing with you, you know. And I had some uh some really tuned-in men definitely tuned in to see uh what's going on and there and you know, say, dear women, it's about time. And it's like, oh so sweet. But for the most part, uh uh yeah, for the most part, a lot of people had fun with it. A lot of people had a great time. Um there was probably a percentage, a very loud percentage, a lot of conversations going on and on, people taking it in a whole other direction. And you know what I noticed, you know what was really fun to notice is that I don't mind, I don't mind uh being used for shock value. And I've definitely received some criticism for that. And the other thing about it is I also don't mind criticism. Um in listening to what I'm guided to do at the time I'm guided to do it. It's like there's really no question. There's really no question. It's like, yes, the answer is, oh, I'm being used for that. And then it's invigorating, you know. There's a there ends up being a lot of comments, a lot of people commenting. And you know, a few people want to maintain their point of view. Some of them, I mean, I had one come on and go, judge much, and then we started having a little conversation. He goes, Oh, I have to apologize. I never read past the hook. You know, some people just coming back and being real sweet, but a few of them want to hold their position that I know what it's about, I know it's about division, I know it's about separation, and I know it's uh see, it's like, yes, this framework that we have agreed to, all of us, okay, that we have agreed to is framework that involves men and women in a framework, okay. And in that framework that involves men and women, we have agreed and replayed many times these dynamics within a framework to where they just roll automatically. So there's there seems to be great resistance in some, not in all, but in a lot. Uh, you know, at first it's like, whoa, you know, because of the dynamic that's being shown. It's like once you're aware, women from a woman's side, once you're aware that you do not need a man because you are sustained by the love of God, you're not playing these underlying dynamics. I am speaking from experience and also just from observation of people. And people have also shared with me, right? How many people have you heard that have to stay in a relationship for financial reasons? The ones who admit to it. See, a lot of the times this is playing a lot more subtly. So they don't even say that even to themselves, but the pattern is beneath the surface, still playing. Okay. And it's not about like we need to get away from these guys or we need to change these guys or anything like that. It's more of a declaration of a shift that I've seen that's already occurred. And everyone is catching on to it. You know, it's like the women have been waking up for a while. I've noticed them being very angry all over. Um, and you know, one of the comments was this sounds like a hurt

Stop Thoughts Midstream Gently

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person. I'm like, yes, it is, but definitely I have gone through hurt and it's bringing this up so we can see it. And you know, the it this is how it feels. This is how this is how it is in the body's energy field, okay. Uh, we feel, we feel these things, okay? So there's defensive mechanisms against seeing these patterns. You know, there's some strong defensive mechanisms. And when I write about it in a soft way where it doesn't make a hook, it doesn't get that much play. And not because I'm trying to get something out of it. It's not like that. Uh, I'm noticing that the message is not getting, it's not landing, right? Now, with this hook, here's what I'm noticing it's got like about hundred times more traction than a regular pay, uh a regular uh post. And even though there's some people misinterpreting it, it also lands, reaches and lands, and it's kind of like aha. When that lands in your mind, when you're realizing, oh my goodness, we've been playing this dynamic. Now I want to tell you like when this dynamic of needing a man uh collapses from the male point of view, they're not gonna feel under so much obligation because this being sustained by the love of God, uh, when we're recognizing it within ourselves, woman, man, whatever, it supports everyone. See? So you take this dynamic where you've got the masculine feeling burdened like they have to take care of this woman who feels like she's dependent. And this pattern collapses. There's there's also it also has to do with earning the idea of having to earn a living. One of the really fun uh exchanges that I had with with one woman was like, and you know, she wanted to add to it that I am not gonna entertain any guy who doesn't pay. To me, they should earn and I heard should earn a place in my heart, right? Um, so you know, just communicating, opening up, opening up channels to communicate, you know, uh like about earning, you know, it's like when once you see that you're fully sustained by the love of God, you're not even thinking in terms of any man earning anything with you. See, that's old way too. That's old programming. All earning kind of things is programming when it comes to relating, you know, looking at it like this no one has to earn anything with you. It's just a matter of how does this feel to me? Do I like it? Is this a dynamic that I that I enjoy? Is this a dynamic that I want to pursue with someone? See, it's not like you suck. I know a lot of the times when I do my post too, there's gonna be a percentage of people that are gonna be looking at it like, yeah, you suck. Yeah, man, you guys suck. You better step up, you fuckers. But yeah, actually, I didn't see too much of that. If you look at the comment section of the post, I may have seen one woman go off like that, but uh for the most part, it's just it it's just been uh really sweet. It's been really sweet. Yeah, it's like even when people start out. Pissed a lot of the times they come around. A few of them don't. But you know, they it they they don't have to. And then we got my daughter. Oh my gosh. Right before I came on here, as I was queuing up, I noticed my daughter, Ikea, goes on uh on one of the comments. I made a comment back to someone because they just projected their whole narrative right over my post and started talking about it. And you know, I was I just made a reply about, you know, you just projected your narrative over my post. That's not anything that I mean. And my daughter, she just comes on and goes, BAM, bitch. And I'm like, oh my goodness. You know, it's just like, it's just like all uh it's all play. It's all play. It's like it's like none of it, uh none of it really touches you, changes you. Uh, nothing can alter the truth of who you are, but everything, no matter what it is, can be used for uncovering, because that's what it needs to be, is uncovering uh that's what has to happen, the truth of who you are. That's what all it is. That's all it is. And you know, when someone's really committed to a mindset that's dualistic, um they look at that as insincere, especially on writing. You know, they'll look at it as being insincere and stuff like that. Uh, you know, you know, it's not the same as like talking with someone in person. And what I see is that's because the framework is completely different. You know, I'm just sharing from what it is that I feel, and the framework that they're coming from is that it's supposed to be a certain way. There must be a strategy. What are they trying to get? You know, um, but once your framework changes to the point where you don't operate from ego, you don't think in terms of what can I get or not get out of it. You think in terms of what's helpful. You, you know, you just go, what show me what's helpful. And the way I the way I see what's helpful is through

Social Media Triggers And Gender Dynamics

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joy. If it feels joyful, it feels light, light energy, playful, you know. Um, don't, you know, I don't have any problems putting boundaries up, but they're not my boundaries. I don't really even put them up. They just arise naturally to protect my joy. See, my mind is just tuned to allowing as much joy as possible to flow into it and through it, right? So boundaries are just natural, they naturally arise to protect the joy. I don't have to protect the joy, right? So even the boundaries are uh are an expression of the psyche. Everything that is uh everything that is perceived, everything that is expressed, it's an expression of our own psyche. Okay, that includes all worldly things, anything we perceive in the world, all uh pain, war, political stuff, they're poisoning the food, all that. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying eat their food. I'm saying if you do find yourself eating your food eating their food, that's your opportunity. If there's an idea that this food can do harm to your body, see, and and don't tempt the ego. Go, oh well, I'm you know, I'm I'm sure it doesn't hurt my body while you're still holding a belief. That belief needs to get undone, and like I said, it gets undone not through pain, not through pain, pain has no purpose. That was the title of one of my recent ACIM deep dives. Yeah, I posted it recently. So, oh that's right. I'm just coming back after a week off, and when I left, I was going on a trip, I was going to Mississippi. Well, to make the long story short, I never got to Mississippi. Uh and yeah, so so here's the story. Um the day before I was gonna leave. I was gonna leave at like one in the morning, and so it was the day before that, one in the morning day. Uh it occurred to me, I don't feel like I'm going to Mississippi. You know how you like when you feel like you're going somewhere? I'm like, I do not feel like I'm going to Mississippi.

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Hmm.

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All right. I'm just gonna wait to pack until tomorrow. I didn't start doing any packing, right? Uh and then in the morning, I get a text from the man who bought my ticket, and I was gonna meet in Mississippi, and he said he had his uncle, who he's really close with, had an emergency, and he has to go to that. He has to go be with his uncle. He said he's not gonna be going to his thing, and he canceled my ticket. And I go, oh, okay, okay, well, yeah, I I kind of already do. So I was like, oh, okay, cool. And then he's like, he he's like, uh, you should get flight credits. And I'm like, oh, okay. So yeah, I called the airline, and sure enough, I got some flight credits. So uh so I was just like, oh wow, thank you very much. It's so so sweet of you, you know. It's like uh I spent a month talking with him, uh about three times a week, also texting, and it was just super sweet. And then whatever went on, I don't know if his uncle really had an or he or he just got scared or what the situation was, but he was just super sweet about it, and then that was the end of that. And I gotta tell you, I was just like, oh, I'm not going. I was just so happy to stay here on the lake. I even didn't go out, I didn't even uh go to my therapies, I just stayed here and had some block therapy, um, had lots of yoga nidra, cooked some food, hung out on my patio. The weather's been pretty sweet. And I was just like noticing, wow, it's like all these moments of interaction with each other, they're just so sweet and they're so fleeting. We have no guarantee that anything else past the moment is going to happen, and I just feel that so sweetly because noticing within myself that I don't mind if things cancel, I don't mind just staying and being where I am, you know. I'm I'm happy with that. Um it's an unfolding for me, it's energetic for me. And the the more love that I allow for myself to feel within myself, the more I don't need anything from outside. That doesn't mean that I don't relate. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't like hire a man or have a man as a friend and have him do some stuff around my house that only men can do. See, this need is in a uh is in an energetic way, kind of in a way we play into dynamics, the way we strategize, you know, it's like I wouldn't be as nice to this person, but I'm gonna be nice to him because I need my gutters cleaned or something like that. You you know, these ways of relating, they hurt our mind. So when we see we don't really need anything, everything's given. This man, this lovely man who has come to sweep my patios, he's given. I don't need him. See? So then we relate authentically, we we relate from truth, we don't relate from trying to get something another fun experience. Another guy, different guy, not the one I was gonna go to Mississippi with. You guys know I was on Facebook dating, so I made a lot of connections, and and there's you know, there's a few that I kept that were just really sweet. And uh at one point he was gonna come over. He got off his boat. He usually stays on the on a boat, big boat where he works. Pretty interesting. But he's coming off of his boat, he's sending me a picture, he's on his way um back to land, and he's we've been planning for uh I don't know how long for him to come and hang out and we'll go, we'll go dancing and stuff like that. He only lives like an hour away. Um, so he planned with me to meet, and then that same day I was going over to the spot and I rang up and I said, Hey, are you coming? Because I'm going to book another appointment if you're not coming. And he said, I'm coming today. I'm gonna call you back in whatever. Well, anyways, I never heard from him again that weekend. So I so I just had my had my uh spa appointments that weekend. It was super sweet, and then the next weekend he said, I'm ready to come over now. And I'm like, uh-uh. No, no, that does not feel good. And you know, I ended up having a conversation with him over the phone because he just kept on texting me, you know. And so I just I just go, I'm just gonna call him and love him up and let him know I'm not interested anymore. So I called him up and it was just it was just really sweet. He's he he's like, I know I have some apologies and some explaining to do. And I go, no, no, no, you don't have anything like that, not with me. I go, I'm just not interested. He's like, What? I go, I yeah, yeah, it's just you know, I'm not interested in that kind of dynamic. I mean, I go, it would be one thing if the anchor from the boat hit you on the head and you were in a coma, and then you couldn't call me. But I know that was not the case. I could already tell from the messages he sent me on WhatsApp. So, and he goes, he goes, Oh, he goes, oh man, I feel super sorry for myself. He goes, I just I screwed up. And I was like, I wouldn't look at it like that way, that way though, you know, it's like you don't really screw up, you see how you want to be, you know, you recognize you just you just see how things go. You go, oh uh, oh, okay. Uh if I if I ghost someone on meeting up with them, they might not be interested in me anymore. You know, it's like that's just uh that he's like, he's like, yeah, I see that. Yeah, I like I did have my phone on me. I could have sent a text, I could have called, and it's like, yeah, but at the same time, you couldn't, you know, because it just wasn't there for you like that, you know, and it's not this isn't something that is like taught to just want to communicate, want to take care in that way. It's something that you you recognize. Oh, this is what feels good. And when and through our relating, we learn, we we see, we recognize, we discover, however you want to put it, what feels good. And I've for myself have already discovered that it never feels good to pursue a relationship that starts out the first date ghosting. Does not feel good. So if we all just pay attention to what we feel what we feel, what feels good, and not it's not about judgment, you know, it's like, hey, I bet you there are women who in fact I know there are women who don't mind that at all. So you hang out with them.

Relationships Without Need Or Earning

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And I'm in and I'm noticing, man, I don't need, I don't even need a hug, I notice. You know, it's like that thought that arose that pretended like I needed a hug, really it affirmed in my mind that I don't need anything. I don't even need a hug. I don't even need human interaction. I could have, I lots of times I can go somewhere. There's all kinds of stuff going on. I mean, I can go dancing, I can go do art, I can go do all this different stuff. I'm just being called to solitude. And so things will pop up, and it's like, wow, it's like I don't even need, and it was programmed into me to think that I need a man. I would always go to my husband, you know, even when he didn't understand me or whatever. We were always sweet to each other, and I would always go and just get that nice big hug and like ah, ah so you know, and I haven't been without hugs for at least I don't know, I think this lifetime, I would say. I would I I think it would be this lifetime. This is probably the longest I've ever gone without hugs in my whole lifetime, and experiences like this. What I see is experiences like this show me that I have no needs. Yeah. So after that, I found myself humming and noticing how wow, that's interesting, just humming. Uh, it came across my Facebook feed. Someone was doing you guys, I'm messing with my hair because it's like those of you on video, I changed the part from one side to the other. And it's like really weird, but I'm going with it. For how long? I don't know. Forgot where I was in the world is yelling as it should be.

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And going, how does this feel? What is this? What is this for me? What am I making of this?

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And when you see what you're making of it, you're like, I don't have to do that. I can just keep on relaxing and keep on allowing myself to know more. So, like I was saying about the humming, something came across my Facebook feed about how humming specifically vibrates in the skull. I'm like, hmm, interesting. So then the next thing you know, I find myself just humming all day long, and whoa, it's kind of psychedelic. It's like, oh, that's that's cool. Um, it's it's like way, way more, I don't know what the word is, the vibrational frequency of of that energy is like away light. It's like encouraging things to liquefy. And you know, like we are uh we are, you could say, projecting a body that's made mostly of water. That's like what the measurements say, but it's like everything that even seems solid, it's really more like liquid. So all the solid that it manifests that can be that can return to its liquid, which is closer to light. See, it's like because it's just like it's just getting less and less solid. So the the solid bodies that we that we see that our eyes uh our eyes rest on, you can say we don't really see them, we perceive them, we perceive these bodies. So these solid bodies, they're formed in layers. And I've seen this in a vision on how our mind is actually building on layers to manifest a body. So when it returns to more uh liquidity, and you know, it's like it's it's like it's liquid in your perception, it's all in your perception. You know, if you look at it like uh like more like a a liquid form, that might be an easier move than seeing it more like a light body, which is what you you know, you could say that's closer, because it's still a word, it's still in the illusion. That's why I can't say it is who you are, a light body, right? But it's way closer to the truth of who you are, to say that you're a light body. And you know, this liquefying is really like a release of the world. It's a release of the tension that we put on ourselves when I see something and there's a there's a certain light kind of like a light bulb goes on, uh, like this. I think it was a video. Yeah, it was a video. This video on Facebook about humming. It's like all of a sudden, I'll recognize, oh my gosh, that's just given to me. I see it's given to me because I accepted that I don't need anything. And then how the givens just arise that that's the abundance. That's the abundance right there. It's like uh it's like there's a sense of, in my case, a sense of a headache, and then the thought that the headache is there because I'm not getting hugged. That seems reasonable too, right? In the world. Um, but it can't be reasonable because I can't be really affected by things in the dream. So I'm recognizing and I'm not letting that thought that there's a cause for my headache in the world manifest, and then something is shown to me that's oh, it's like really joyful and feels really good in my head. In my head, humming. It's all it's it's all interconnected, and you know, when you look at it like okay, this is an energetic, it's kind of like an energetic field, and it's all interconnected like this. So you start seeing these synchronicities. And you start seeing how well provided for you are. It's like everything you need is being handed to you. Oh, and Akasha says, and apparently good for the pineal gland and vagus nerve. Yes, humming, yes. And it's so easy. You don't need a timer, you don't need a meditation app. You could be in the shower. The shower is my favorite place. I started singing to myself too. Uh singing little tunes that just come out like you know, words come out like, why am I so happy? Why am I so clear? Why am I so calm? And you know, it's put like a tune to that. Why am I so happy? Why am I so clear? You know, you just for yourself, for yourself, right? And here's the thing about asking why. I love this. This is so fun. The universe is set up to answer questions. That's what it does. Right? So it's like you're not asking it to solve anything now, you're not asking it to solve anything. You're like, why is that the fact? You're asking, why is that the fact? So then it just shows you over and over again, and you can, you know, I I was doing it while I was body brushing too, taking a body brush and doing the whole thing and singing, you know, it's like that's what experience is for, just enjoying yourself, just really enjoying yourself, right? Right, it's just like it's like the world shows us that we can't enjoy ourselves until something making problems, and then our mind is programmed to want to solve problems. So, you know, when I say the universe, is it really it's your mind? It's funny, the universe is your mind, universe and mind same. But sometimes when universe is used to talk about how manifestation works, the universe is taken to be outside of yourself, like something that gives to you from outside of you. But that's the thing, and that's why it works to ask why. Why do I have everything I want? You know, it's all perception, so the universe shows you, or your mind shows you, you could say.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

This is why. And the effects are the effects. This is why the peace of God is where it starts.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

Just being at peace. Right? But how does that how does anyone do that? How does any you know, how does anyone hear that? Maybe you sit down to meditate and your mind races. Maybe you sit down to meditate and your mind quiet, and then right afterwards it races again. You know, when I recognize a racing mind, and when I I sat down to meditate, and I recognize a racine, I just don't try to force it. There's nothing wrong with a racing mind. The meditation is in the background of all mind. Right, that

Cancelled Trips And Solitude As Sweetness

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teaches your mind. See, just by your viewing it that way, that teaches your mind that that is the truth. Not only are you not threatened by anything in the world, but you're also not threatened by a racing mind. Hmm, you're not in that racing mind. Remember the illusions in the world, one of it which is racing mind, is propped up to get you to believe that there is a problem, and so many people just hold keep this within themselves. This problem, that they're a problem, because they didn't do it right, or they didn't do a list of things, or they did the things and they didn't get the results that they wanted. Abundance is now, abundance is now. That's why I always find myself perfectly cared for. I'm like, no, that's still meaningless. Right? Look at it more like look at it more like a comedy. It's a comedy show. You know, you're you're the truth, you're the light, you're the one son of God. And then there's this separated mind trying to convince you that you're not that's all, you know, when it comes to like my ability to uh meditate very deeply and all stuff like that. Yeah, from time to time that goes in and out. Does it appeal to me? That's the question. Does it appeal to me right now? Is it appealing when I sit down for medit for meditation? Do I feel like this is congruent with my energy right now? See, it just comes to that. And in meditation, it's got a certain pull to it that I like to just watch and let it arise and not make any strict ideas of how much I should be in meditation. When it comes to a course in miracles, the way that's taught, there are some that, you know, that's a practice, so it's different. You know, I I've done the practice many times uh that that's a practice, so it's different, but it's not all the way, it's still in the same vein. You know, I learned this from practicing a course in miracles. I learned how to be gentle with myself. So when you're going through a course in miracles and taking the lessons, there are certain lessons that prescribe that you basically meditate when and they have longer and it has longer periods in there to meditate. But it's really clear, especially toward the beginning, don't force it because that's counterproductive, it gets you all caught up in the ego. Even if you do make your meditation, there's an idea that you have been good for doing that, and still an idea that you would be bad if you didn't do it. It's kind of like subtle. So, more important than whether you meet your meditation quota is if you would see everything that arises, meditation or lack of it, as equal. Make all things equal. So, in a course in miracles, toward the end, and maybe at the very end, I'm not sure. And maybe in the text, who knows? I just like internalize these things apparently. Um, so a Course in Miracles talks about when you wake up in the morning and before you go to bed at night, let yourself get that sense. That sense in your in your body that you're whole, that you're one. It doesn't matter how long that takes. You get used to going through your day, remembering how it feels to be in the embrace of God, right? You just let yourself feel yourself in the embrace of God, and then you go about your day, and then at the end of the day, do the same thing, and then you go about your dream state like that. So it's like over time, this is this just gets more and more natural for you. Now it's not saying not to meditate or to meditate, it's saying this, and then listen for every everything, every every move will be given you. And I don't uh I don't budge off of that, I don't change my mind about it, you know, and don't as in don't budge, it's like I'm not gonna believe that there's something else besides the peace of God, and certainly nothing in the world is gonna give that to me. Relationships was definitely one of those things that have been shown to me. I do not need uh like romantic relationship kind of thing. I do not need something like that. Yes, they're fun, I'm open to it, and it's playful, uh, but it's not ever going to be satisfying. It is just not what it's been sold as. It's not that. It's the it's not for that, it's for awakening our mind, it's not for getting and keeping, it's not for um the image. It's really getting our, it's not for getting our needs met either. That's the other thing. That's such a common thing. It's like we naturally, and you know, people have gone really far with this, taking it to okay, we're just gonna communicate this in the way that it feels you are not meeting my needs. So it's like I have needs that you're not meeting. We don't need people to meet our needs, because our needs are met now. See, looking to people to meet our needs are looking to the future to do that, but right now our needs are completely met. See, when you relate from that perspective, everyone's just free. You're not you're not stuck with people, right? The only time you're gonna be like, okay, my needs for this are not being met by you, is like you feel like you gotta like stick with them. It's like obser just observe. Just observe. And instead of my needs aren't being met, it's more like this is what I like.

SPEAKER_01 57:03

All right, this is what I like. Do you want to play this with me?

Humming For Calm And Synchronicity

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Kind of like like let's say you have a sexual partner, right?

SPEAKER_02 57:22

And you really like oral sex. I've had this happen. That's why it's a personal story. You really like oral sex, and they're not doing it. And I'm like, hey, I really like that. And they're like, oh. You really like that, huh? Okay. I really want to do it some more. Okay, cool. I don't know, I don't need it. I don't ever need anyone to do anything for me. It's not like you're lacking or you're failing. Like, what if the person doesn't like to do that? Maybe they come back and go, oh, you know, that's like the worst thing for me. I really don't like that. It's like, oh, okay. And then I might not be interested in them anymore, and that's okay. So simple. Here's the other thing. We not only can all have everything that we want, but we even everything that we think we want. Here's the thing. This is funny, because there's nothing here that can satisfy us, but everything we think we want, it is already done. It's actually already done. All we're doing is removing the blocks to it. It is. Our mind is powerful like that. Whatever we have thought of, like anything we think we need or want or desire or anything like that, we already thought of that of it. It already is in aloe in the illusory world. It already is. This illusory world is built on a shitload of layers. If you were going to make an image of of Earth, you could say, and the and the layers, it would just look like a lot of layers. Wouldn't have a shape. A lot of layers of thought. You know, you might just to visualize it if you like it round. And the reason I said didn't have a shape, because you guys see it differently. If you like to see it round, then look at it as round with a lot of layers. If you like to see it flat, look at it as flat with a lot of layers. Those are timelines, they're timelines. So you could say, in your highest timeline, it is like this. I've been describing it like this for years. It's like in your highest timeline, let's say there's all these layers, you have everything that you think you want. You do, but it's believing that you don't that's keeping you on, you could say, different timelines where you don't have the thing you think you want. Now, when you know that you only want the peace of God, you get to experience the peace of God. And from there, your desiring is pure. Because it's knowing it's already done, it's not worrying about it, it's not going out trying to get it. It's not going, where is it? Where is it? Where is it? It's actually a knowing that it is already done. You don't even mind that you don't seem to see it, because you just know that it's already done. And you know, to some people, they might go, What? How is that the same as getting the thing? And I'm like, okay, not only is it better than getting the thing, literally better than getting the thing, because the even the getting the thing that you think you want, you think you're gonna get a particular feeling, a peaceful feeling that you could have right now. Not only is that available right now, but it also allows you to transcend these timelines that I'm I'm illustrating here. Okay, these timelines, it's like they're all on vibrational, uh, they're on vibrational frequencies. And you are kind of shifting between these vibrational frequencies depending on what guide you're listening to. So none of this stuff is really linear. We talked about things not being linear, I think, two weeks ago. None of these things are really linear. So it's just all you have to deal with is the thought that's saying you can't have what you want, and all that is is a meaningless thought. Desire, akasha says desire. I like this. So D means from, and sire is the father. That's the the makeup of desire. I love it from the father, yeah, and the desires themselves, they get tasted, you could say, in the moment, which is really what you want with them. You want to taste something, it's an experience, even if you're talking about, you know, special clothes or um a trip or anything, it's kind of like the experience, kind of like a taste. You want to taste something. That's how I feel it. And um, and I allow myself to taste that, what I feel like I want to taste. It's a certain uh feeling of completion because the ego is going, I'll have completion when I get that thing, I'll have completion when I get, let's say, a partner. I noticed that kind of energy arising with me, and I just couldn't believe it. I mean, I could believe that it was arising, but I couldn't believe in those thoughts. That's what I mean. Could not believe in those thoughts, they didn't make any sense to me, and yet I noticed the pull in my body's energy field. I noticed a sense of I want it. Where is it? Where is he? Where is that? And I couldn't believe it, is what I'm saying. So I didn't like try to go, where is he? Where is he? Where is he? Right. Um, even in dating, it's just like so playful, so sweet and playful, which I'm not really doing that anymore, I don't think. We'll see. I'm off of the app. But you know, you can't, you cannot like bring someone into your life by action anyway. So whether I go on a dating app or just stay right here in my house, I cannot bring a relationship in. That's not and not and and calling it in and all that kind of stuff, that makes no sense to me. The right relationships, however short or long they are, that's all relating is relationship to me. Both of those two dudes told you the apparent stories about them, one Minnesota, one coming over, right? Both of those two dudes. I just enjoyed the relating with them. I thought it was really sweet. It doesn't have to turn into anything. That's the deepening. That's a that's where the deepening is is really I see taking taking place. It's like, oh, just really feeling uh feeling into just being at home without another body around. And you know, it's about to shift. I've actually been without a without another body around. Let's see, what has it been? Uh months, February, March, April, two months. And this that's like I'm saying, that's like The longest I've gone. I have had a couple hugs from Natalie when she's come. I've probably seen her three, four times. Um, but that's the longest, like most sparse time that I can even remember for hugs. And now uh Wednesday, Billy's coming back and he'll hug me all day long. He loves it. He loves hugs. Billy's coming back, so everything's changing. By the time uh come on, well, yeah, next wisdom dialogues. By the time I come on next wisdom dialogues, Billy will be here with me. Everything will be different. I'm living by myself, uh, and everything on the surface is about ready to change. I just like enjoy whatever I seem to be in because things are always in flux and let them be in flux, just let them. And I've heard from some of you, some of you who are on here right now, too, about things don't change for you. They're not changing, and you wish they would. You wish they would change. Okay, so what I'm sharing with you is truly all that needs to change is the thinking and even the wishing they would change. Um, another one to illustrate this is the video games. Video games on my phone. I have like I've talked to with you guys about this for many years. There's some kind of programming that says that that's bad to do. Um, and there's some apparent effects that seem like my hands seem to feel a little bit weird when I play video games for I don't know, longer than 15 minutes, let's say. Um so a couple weeks ago, I was going, man, I started to notice I didn't like how my hands were feeling while I was playing video games. I tried to set it up some way. It's on my phone. I'm just playing little matching games. Uh, got blackjack going. I like that one. Uh, blackjack and matching games. And I felt like, wow, I just want to stop playing video games on my phone because I don't like the effects of the video games on my phone. So, you know, I like to experiment. So uh so I go, okay, well, let's see. Maybe I'll just see if I don't play. I know I don't have a choice in it, but I'm going, okay, noticing I don't like those effects. So then I find myself deleting the apps. I'm off the video games. I don't know how long, maybe days, maybe a week, not too long, maybe hours. No, not hours. But uh I end up reinstalling them and I go, okay, I just want to witness what is going on here, as far as there's a draw to this. I'm not doing these things. This is my mind. Okay, there's a draw to this, and also there's a thought that it's doing something to me, my body,

Meditation Without Forcing Or Quotas

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or something. And so I want to observe this, and so I just like noticed oh, that's the thought that takes the fun out of playing the video game right there, that it's doing something to me. So I went back to it and and I saw it, and I go, oh, that's that's it. And it's funny, it's like it's like how these things will roll around and roll around and roll around. It's like over and over again, repeating, and then you just keep on going deeper. You go back to, oh, there's no video game affecting anything. I'm just here for the fun. I'm not, I don't need to think about anything else. I don't think you need to think about anything else about it. Just pay attention to how it feels. That's really where the fun is. You know, it once once I get a sense I'm not enjoying the whatever it is on my hands, I don't need to keep on doing it. And the ironic thing about this is if I tell myself that this is bad for me, but I still have to do it, but I'm still doing it, I'm addicted, I'm this, I'm that, I'm this and that, then I find myself not enjoying much more. See, but if I allow it to manifest and just look at it, huh? Where does the joy turn into something else? And that's always with a thought, the thought that in this case that was saying that this is doing something to me, right? There's here's the question that arises how is that not tempting the ego? Because it's recognizing that you don't have a choice in what is coming in the perception. This is the past playing out. Okay, so in the past, there was a thought that intrigued me that said, This video game can do something to you. So, because of that intriguing thought, things manifest. Once that thought isn't intriguing anymore, then things don't need to manifest off of it. That's how we get into these struggles where we find, you know, we get this sense like, oh, I'm addicted. And once you say that, you limit yourself completely. You're not, it's not even possible for you to get addicted to anything. That's not a thing. You find yourself repeating patterns that seem to be harmful for you because you believe the harm to be true. That's the only reason you would per you you would perceive that. And you know, you can also make the uh make the stance, take a stance and go, I am not gonna allow myself to do that. And you may perceive yourself following through on it. That also is choiceless. A lot of people say, I am not gonna do that anymore, and then they just do it again. That's because it's a program plane. So instead of getting better at, I am not gonna do this, and sticking to your guns, this is an invitation to have fun, to recognize none of this stuff means anything, have fun with it. Taking things seriously, forgetting to laugh. Oh, it happened so fast, so funny, and then you can laugh at that, and you just laugh again and again and again, and things get lighter. So now when I play video games, and now it's so funny, too. What occurred to me, uh, what occurred to me recently. It's like, oh, this doesn't have anything to do with the video games. It was like it uh was just something that it was put on. I'm getting the sense that this whole thing is buzzing and unwind unwinding. That that's that's whole this whole form seems to be buzzing and unwinding, and a lot of that seems to be going on in the wrists. This moving and changing, and a lot of that seems to be going on in the wrists, and then so then I'm like, oh, that's interesting. It's it's like it's just like like mist. Everything's like mist, it's like a vapor. Oh, here's a problem over here. Oh, here's a problem over here, oh, here's a problem over here. It's like a vapor, nothing's happening. Like, oh, I wish I would get off my phone or something. It's like no, you know, you get off your phone when that energy is played out. It doesn't matter what you are doing. How does it feel? You know, you're you're registering all the time through sensation, you're registering all the time. But what's going on when your mind's interpreting that things should be a certain way, it's like you say, just ignore that one. I'm gonna ignore my joy on that one and take this serious thought instead, take this path instead. So the joy, the joy path that I'm talking about, sinking into your joy right now, accepting the peace of God in the moment, is where you're continually unwinding. And I'm also feeling the effects of that. The continual unwinding is definitely manifesting, keeping on uh with jaw releases things. This thing, this whole thing, this whole body seems to be um in remodeling. It seems to be in remodeling, it's just like completely moving all the time. Neck, you feel my uh bones in my head moving, even fingers, ankles, everything's moving, apparently. So trying to detect any cause at all just puts physicality at the at the place of cause. It's like puts physicality on the level of cause, which is not cause, it is effect. God is the only fact. That's what we were studying just recently on a course in miracles deep type. That God is the only fact, God is fact, and because of that, nothing else makes sense. If God is fact and God is the only cause, then all of these effects that I'm perceiving about the world, including the my body, which was not created by God, is not a fact, it has no cause of its own. It is an effect of a split mind, and that split mind is a problem-making mind. It makes problems and then solves them. That's what it does. So it's like we stop giving it a problem. All of my problems have already been solved. Now, why is everything so glorious for me? Answer me that Durga says, What a beautiful application of ACIM. The spiritual reality show helps me undo beliefs. Yes, and no one's looking at us but us. You know, I had one man just projecting so much vile stuff on me, maybe like two, like, I don't know, a half hour before I came on here. And it's like, this is my show. I'm just gonna love on him, you know, and I just like I just thanked him. I was like, thank you for showing me where you're at. You know, we apparently we can't communicate, we're on two different thought systems. You're trying to convince me that darkness is real and that you see it in me, and I don't operate like that. Okay, once again, your transparency about everyday thoughts are greatly inspiring. What keeps you steady? Okay, that is a really good question, you know. Of course, it's wanting the peace of God more than anything else. That's that's one thing. It's like just wanting the peace of God more than anything else. Another one. And you know, what I was meaning to share with you a little bit earlier when I was when I went into the meditation thing, um, is about how like I'm not some like high spiritual guru kind of fucking person. Okay, I'm not that. I'm just a regular ass broad who loves the peace of God. That's all. So you don't have to like aspire to anything. Here's where I'm here's where I'm uh perceiving that I'm uh uh better at it, maybe is a good way to put I don't know. I don't know, you guys. I'm not trying to, I'm I'm just trying to share with you. I am ridiculously forgiving to the point where I don't remember what fucking just happened. I am ridiculously forgiving to the point where I could witness all kinds of patterns and know that there is no shame in any of that, myself or them. See, it has to go both ways like that. You know, I feel for the man who was trying to uh project that the darkness that he was perceiving was actually in me. You know, I feel for him because I know what that feels like. That is telling your mind that you're the darkness is in you. So even if in that moment you think you're right and you see the darkness in that other person, later on that's coming back to haunt you, right? I don't want any of that. I don't want, I don't, I don't want to uh to have to uh tread through, is that even a word? I don't know, a bunch of BS. I just want the peace of God right now. I just want the peace of God right now. It doesn't come from anyone else, it doesn't come from anyone giving me anything, it doesn't come from the world, it doesn't come from anyone seeing me in a better light, right? So I guess I could say what keeps me steady

Desire Timelines And The Peace Of God

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is certainty in one word, now that I said all that stuff. It's certainty, and that's that's the thing. Certainty is not something that you learn, it's something that you choose. See, one time earlier on, uh many years ago, I got a sense that all I gotta do is choose it. And it's like that's it. All I have to do is choose it in the moment. I don't have to wait. I don't have to wait for someone else to see me better. I don't have to wait for anyone else to be sweet to me. Right? Certainty is a choice I make right now. That's what clicked for me. You know, I've I've talked to many different friends and hey, are you certain about who you are? No one says yes. Not yet. Are you certain 100% of the time? Are you certain about who you are? No one says yes. I say yes to that. Yes, I am. It's my mind, it's my all-powerful mind. I'm the only one who can be certain. No one else can be certain for me. You know, I'm not waiting for some spiritual leader to come around and go, oh yeah, you're validated. No, I know what I am, and I know what my function is.

unknown 1:23:34

Right?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:35

My function is to deny meaningless to anything that's that's that's meaningless. And in doing that, you know, it may ruffle some feathers, and that's okay. That's okay. You know, Jesus is a really good example of someone ruffling feathers that it can occur. It's all right. It's all right if people don't like you. There certainly is a choice, yes. Then certainty. Oh, then certainty is a choice. Yes, certainty is a choice. What I'm telling you, and if you receive this transmission right now, you're just gonna know there's nothing you need to do to get to certainty. Certainty is a choice right now, okay. Here's how it plays out in some different ways. After having a conversation with the person who was projecting uh darkness as if it's he sees it and it's actually in me, there was a sense of what was that for? And it's like, what do you mean what was that for? It's all for the same thing. That's the certainty. See that? No question, no question. Did I say it right? Was I loving enough? You know, because this is a moment-to-moment thing, this certainty. In this certainty, my highest desire is to be truly helpful. It's the only reason for any interaction with anyone. You know, they may read something else into it because they're perceiving from a different mind. They may read into it that I want their validation or something like that, but they're perceiving from a different mind. So when we're expressing from certainty, it's kind of like a light. It just shines away all illusions from our path, irrespective of any whether anyone else agrees with it. You know, I express certainty, and this is a really good way that I demonstrated it to my mind. I express certainty living with a family who thought I was full of shit. That was at least my perception of it. My son, one of my sons, would be very vocal about it. Actually, both of my sons were. Seeming irate. It's kind of rare. But just to express how I feel. I love you. You know, I love you. It doesn't matter whatever you want to hold about me. I just love you. You know, that feels really good to me. I love to connect like that. And if it and you know, if it connects where the other person is like, oh my goodness, I feel your heart. That's wonderful too. If the if it connects with the other person, like you're just being deceitful, you're trying to be holier than thou, that's good too.

Video Games And The Myth Of Addiction

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It's all helpful. All of it, all of it just keeps on spinning around and spinning around so we could see the truth. The whole world just reflects back to us what the world wants us to know, that we're not the son of God. That's what the ego wants us to know.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:16

So not losing our identity in the moment, basically.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:30

24? I think he's 24. Yeah. Something like that. Anyways. Stuff like that. And I sat in my certainty and let him and feel with him and still and feel it from the place of certainty. And that stuff unwinds. It just unwinds itself. I just knew with certainty that our relationship was whole. And so it just kept on manifesting like that more and more and more. I mean, it went through one time where he was pissed at me because I was having sex with a dude who wasn't his dad and not talking to me. But that seemed to even just bring us closer. We're closer than we've ever been right now, apparently. Not that that even matters one iota, because we're totally in communication all of the time. We're all in communication all of the time. As long as I'm I'm aware of him in my mind, I'm communicating from a loving place. If I'm projecting him out in my world, I'm not communicating from a loving place, whether we seem to be close or not. That's what closeness really is. It's closeness in mind. Our minds are not separate. You know, when a Course in Miracles talks about how we have no private thoughts, some people misinterpret that and think they should start airing all their uh dirty laundry about people to them. But no, that's not what it's saying. It's like we are not alone in experiencing the effects of our thoughts. For one, the effect of our thought on our own nervous system, the effect of our thought on the collective nervous system, and then that affects how we see things. And we're not alone in experiencing the effects of our seeing either. If you're familiar with the Course in Miracles, you know I just quoted a couple of lessons there. And you can see my voice seems to be getting hoarse. I'm just gonna get a little water.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:19

I'll be right back. Thank you.

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So I'm gonna be headed back to Hawaii May 15th. I don't have my ticket yet, but um probably will in a couple days. We'll see. We'll see. Um I'm gonna have three events when I get there. I'm gonna start having three events, one on Tuesday. Tuesday is gonna be at 1:30, I believe. I'm just picking up from one that's already going and the hosts are leaving. So I'll be recording those. They're gonna be a course in miracles lessons where it's in a meeting format. We're having a meeting, and then I'll continue to do wisdom dialogues and ACIM deep dives, but I'm probably gonna take a little break. I'll probably take a break right after I leave here. I might take a couple weeks off and just hang out at the beach and stuff like that, and then pop back up again. You know, one thing, one thing that I noticed this week too is on that app, the pattern. I told you guys about that app, the pattern. I really like that app. It's an astrology app, but the way they look at astrology is totally congruent with the way I think. And that's not trying to predict the future or anything like that. It's actually looking at the patterns that you seem to be programmed with, these symbols with the planets. We already went over about the planets. We had a great time with that, at least I did. I hope you guys had fun with that segment. But the planets are symbols that we put in place to show us kind of what energies are pulling at us at any given moment. And and even throughout, you know, the uh a lifetime, what energies are pulling at us. We could see why we are drawn toward certain tendencies. I just love that stuff. And if you do uh install the app called The Pattern, look me up. I'm Awesome Hope Johnson on the pattern, and we can connect and we can even have a bond so we see what what patterns are actually drawing us into alignment in this field. It's so funny, and and we could see how it plays. So one of the patterns that it just comes up with little notifications to tell you certain patterns that are in play, and one of the patterns that seems to be in play for me that was just uh just presented today is to express ideas and to feel understood. That's one of my patterns, and that's something that is actually in the pattern. What it's saying, this is supposed to feel good to me. And apparently it does, because throughout my time sharing like this, you know, I've I've had a lot of what you might call persecution. You know, persecution is where people are um condemning, you know, condemning you, trying to silence your voice, uh, stuff like that, and feeling like they're righteous, they're more spiritual stuff like that. You know, I have gone through a lot of that kind of stuff, and I've stopped and asked, why the fuck am I doing this? Everyone's fine, they don't need me. I don't even get paid for this. Why the fuck am I doing this? Right? And I would stop from time to time, and I would just find myself doing it again. You know, it's like it's like these these patterns, and and and the thing, the thing is not to resist our patterns and go, oh, I'm not gonna. It's like the that shows me, it's like, oh, no wonder that's where that's the way in which the spirit can use a vehicle. You could say a vehicle like this. Uh, the vehicle is made up of patterns. See, that's why I feel really strong. Whoa, this has to, it's almost like it's on fire. It's like this has to get out. I need to talk, you know. There's like it's like a sense like that. So just letting it, letting it flow. I mean, at first it sent it seemed like I didn't want to do it. But it's like it's kind of like what they say about going through your pain, going through your fear. It's like I don't, I did not want to do it for the feeling of being unqualified to, and that's where the certainty comes in, too. It's like once I was certain, it was like, okay, once I'm certain that I'm certain and I'm realizing it's just a choice, and I'm committed and I'm willing, I'm devoted, I'm gonna make the choice for certainty. It's like no problem with all of that stuff. No problem with all of the you know, kicking and screaming from time to time, different things that seem to seem to play out. It it all is helpful for me, and it's all helpful, a hundred percent helpful a hundred percent of the time. I know you heard me say that that's the certainty. It I cannot, I cannot get it wrong, and you cannot get it wrong. Everything that unfolds in this field is perfect, everything that unfolds in

Certainty Is A Moment To Moment Choice

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this field is for my benefit. I have opportunities, I get opportunities to use things for my benefit, and you know, I say opportunities very intentionally. I'm not talking about a challenge, that's for the ego. I'm talking about opportunities. Opportunities are more like you're in a res you're in a more receptive mode, just choosing what's true. So there's no challenge, it doesn't matter what it is. Like, oh yeah, this is so challenging. No, there's no thing that can challenge anything but the ego, and you're not an ego. See, that really helps with certainty too, is recognizing you're not something that can be challenged. See, people think of themselves on a path to get somewhere. I don't think of myself on a path to get somewhere. I am it. And the whole path is just to get you to the point where you're certain that it's all that you are it. But it doesn't, the path itself, going on the path itself, doesn't do it. It doesn't do it. There's no amount of learning you can do, there's no amount of meditating you can do, there's no amount of anything you can do to make that choice for you. You don't have to do one second of any kind of spiritual practice at all. You can just realize, you know what, I just need to be certain about who I am, and I need to be certain every single moment, and I need to not let anything in the world distract me from that. And look at this. Here's another one. Let's say, in one moment you're not certain. That doesn't count. Be certain now. See that the ego likes to go on. Wait a minute. Was I certain at that moment back there? Forget about it. Are you certain now? It's the only moment you can make the choice. You guys, you don't have to uh you don't have to look like anything to anyone, no one has to revere you for being fucking enlightened, but this is it. You choose your certainty right now, and you know it's your choice. Everything in the world is trying to get you to not make that choice, but you are all powerful mind, and you have all the power of God behind you for making this choice. That's why A Course in Miracles is saying that his will, God's will, is for your perfect happiness. What do you think your certainty, your choice to choose certainty about who you are is gonna do for happiness? How can that not be one with the will of God? So you could say that to choose certainty is to choose God, to choose certainty is to choose God's will over an alien will. See what I'm saying.

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You don't need one bit of anything. You already have it, and I just stay in uh in awareness of that.

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It's it gets easy, you know what, it gets easier and easier until it just becomes your natural way of being with everything and everyone, and people can have all kinds of opinions about you. You would use each and every one of those too as opportunities. All all the all the opportunity is, all it is, is you're recognizing that the world is an illusion and God is fact, and you are God's creation. So there's nothing for you to do about anything. Get back to feeling that you are on the lap of God, or however that visual, whatever, looks good for you. Some people might not want to sit on his lap, knowing that you are totally embraced all the time by God who does not have any shred of an idea about what you made yourself of yourself. Yeah, so a lot of my demonstrating to my mind that I can choose certainty now occurred through living around, and you know, that's that's all the time too. I mean uh I mean now it's like people will see just the following I have or whatever and just want to tell me what a faker I am and how I'm just in just concerned about my image and different things like that. And you know, I just approach everything the exact same way. I don't think of myself as having haters either. I don't even think of that. Like having, oh, they're my hater. I don't want any haters, you know. If they're if they're real boisterous on my post and just making a lot of comments all all over the place, I might block them. They give me a really strong uh reflection that they don't want anything I have to share, block them. I don't want you to see anything I have to share, and then quiet. I mean, that's just online, but that's totally different scenario because of the way it's writing and stuff like that. When you have someone, you know, it's almost like you you you also discover how to be online with people because it's way different than being in person. In person, it's like it's like at least my experience so far has been people can feel my vibe behind a keyboard, not so much. Um, but you know, let's say someone isn't, I have had this happen to me. Even my husband, you know, he he at one point went off on me and told me how terrible of a of a woman I have been and how I've ruined his life. This was way back, like 2014. And the way it, the way it felt to uh receive all of that was just amazing. It was amazing. I I loved it, uh, to the point where I was not afraid of anyone getting irate with me that I was during COVID going from business to business, and some of them were yelling at me and telling me what a terrible person I am, and some people were praying for me that the that God would go with me and make my mission success successful. But I you know, through seeing that there is only this choice, I was able to stand in fire basically with people saying you know, rude stuff to me and telling me I'm killing them because I'm not wearing a mask, I'm breathing free, and stuff like that, and accusing me. And the feeling was incredible. I was just able to be with the experience. And when my husband saw how I was when he was like that with me, he went, I never wanted, I don't know what that was. I want to learn how to be calm like you. Yeah, uh, that sentiment didn't stay, but it was there in the moment. It was really sweet. And and also noticing, you know, during COVID how things just didn't escalate. Because and when, you know, when there's things escalating, it has to do with energy. So it's like you can sense that their tone, and then if you match their tone, it escalates. You can kind of see it. Uh uh, well, I I guess from my perspective, I don't know how everyone processes it, but I can kind of see it almost like it's a it's this energy just keeps on going up. It's almost like it's circling upward. Where where when I recognize someone's energy wanting to circle upward, I just take it down. It's a dynamic. So the down, what what I'm talking about is down, like into calmness, into presence, like coming into uh the sense and being and you know, you know, there to be truly helpful, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:49

Just there to be truly helpful.

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And whether people reject you in the moment or anything like that, the thing is the spirit is planting seeds. Are being planted through any interaction where you go into it to be helpful, where your reason for the interaction is to be helpful. The spirit is planting seeds, no matter what else you're perceiving. You don't have to evaluate, oh, that went well or that went shitty. Right. Because your goal is peace. Your goal is truly the peace of God. So with a peace of God as your goal, you're going to be in that mindset that allows these gifts to come through you even if you can't see them. It's really lovely. It's a lovely, uh, lovely space to communicate from because then there's no pressure, right? And I can see right away when someone's trying to put pressure on me. They can't really put pressure on me, but they can try. And in that trying, if I don't recognize what's going on, I could be pressured or not uh yeah, or feel like resistance to them. Like, don't pressure me like that. You know what I mean? Don't pressure me like that. No, it just ends up you're recognizing that there's pressure and you don't have to go along with it. And that's how it was when I was in that conversation with the person about a half hour before I came on here. I just noticed the pressure and I was like, oh, I just don't have to go along with this. Pressure. It's like I don't have to perform, I don't have to explain. And so anything that I share is just because out of the joy of my heart, I love to share. Seeing that you're harmless, the world is going to try to tell you that you're causing harm. That's another thing that happens when I speak the truth. The world, I'll hear the voices or see the uh comments on the Facebook that I'm causing harm. And you can't cause harm, you're harmless. And the world will tell you that you're causing harm whenever you're speaking truth. I've been experiencing this for many years. Earlier on, I was

Criticism Online And Being Truly Helpful

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told so many times that the things that I'm sharing with people are not for regular people. That's what I would be told by spiritual people. These that these concepts that I'm sharing, these are concepts that are for people who have gone through certain rites. These are not for regular people. Nowadays, I see the same concepts that were uh that that were uh regarded like that 10 years ago. I see them all over the internet. It's like I expressed that that thought that seemed to be seemed to get me a lot of persecution and stuff like that. And then it ended up becoming a lot more mainstream. That's what happened that's what's happening with all of these thoughts. You know, the ones, the the ones, especially the ones where people are like, uh you're screwed up, or they're painting a different the most common thing. This week on one, just one of my posts. I don't usually get too many that coming out of me that are like this, but one the most common theme that people were doing that was pissing them off was their own interpretation. They didn't they didn't then read it. One woman got all the way to the end and had her own interpretation all the way through, and that is, and I can see what that is right away. That's just a defense mechanism. The ego is afraid this of this being seen, this dynamic where women need men and men feel burdened, and then men have expectations of women because they feel burdened. Ah, can you can you just feel into when that collapse? And it may not be too long from now because when I start talking about things, they start becoming mainstream. It's amazing, and you know what? I love that I don't get a I don't get credit for it. I love that. I am not one bit in a complaining way about it at all. I am so stoked to uh be able to just like walk around and for the most part, no one knows who the fuck I am. That's great. Many years ago, it occurred to me that my audience may be small, but they will be the ones who can handle it. They can they're the gonna be they're gonna be the ones who can handle what I'm talking about. And not only that, it doesn't matter. It's like like I told Chitta, Chitta's on here too. Hello, I Chitta. Like I told Chitta and Bob Shine many years ago, if there's just one of you that wants me to come talk, I'm gonna come talk to you. Right? You could that's my pattern, apparently. That's what that's what feels uh what was the word for it? Fulfilling for me or something like that, something to that effect. To express deep and uh deep ideas and to be understood. That's uh that's the pattern. So when you're allowing me to express these ideas and opening to uh you could say understanding, I don't know if that's the word because it's got kind of a weird word for me. Um, but and you know, if you open to it and you're willing to see it too, which you guys are on here. I see that it extends and extends and extends, you guys. Just this little group right here, this this sweet little group. What do we have here? Eight, nine, nine people, including me on this little group on the live. There's a lot more who watch and listen, but just here on the live, and including all of you watching and listening to, just notice your mind opening up to something like this, the ripple effects that this has. It is amazing. It is amazing. It's like just this little hub right here. Uh, it's like that isn't this is enough. In fact, one mind is enough to change everything because we are created in God's image, and this world is an abomination, it's only propping itself up to convince us that we are not God's creation. That way we don't choose certainty and we never leave illusions. Okay, that's the ego's plan for us. So let's be certain. Will you choose certainty? You know, you can just make an if you make a if you let's say you make a decision right now, you make a choice right now. I'm going to choose certainty whenever I feel like I've lost my way. I'm just gonna choose certainty. And you know what? Just making that, just just making that choice right now, you're gonna get help in that direction. Whichever direction you want to go, you're gonna get help. So if you're saying, I want to see my certainty, I'm going to choose certainty. Whenever I seem to lose touch with the peace of God, you're gonna get all kinds of help in that. And you're going to be successful. You are actually guaranteed to be successful. It's just a matter of when will you make that choice? I

Hawaii Plans And Donation Request

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when will you make that choice? You don't you do not need anything else to make it but your own decision. So, yay, I love you. Thank you so much for joining everyone. I really appreciate you. Yay, now, thank you, Christine. I love you. I'll see you soon. I'm gonna be in your neighborhood, I think, if you're still there. Yay, all right. I love you guys. Go to hopejohnson.org. Please donate if you can. Like I said, I live entirely off of donations, apparently. And um let's see, what else? Oh, I want to fly to Hawaii. So if you guys could help me out with that, I would really appreciate it. And yay, sharing is caring. Oh, Glenn, I love you. Glenn, you're on here. I didn't hear you talk until now. How fun. All right, aloha everyone. Mahalo, come back on Wednesday when I do an ACIM deep dive.