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Concern Makes Peace Conditional | June 6, 2026 | Wisdom Dialogues
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Concern is one of the most socially approved forms of anxiety, and that’s exactly why it can be so hard to see. We talk about the moment “I’m just worried about you” stops being love and starts becoming pressure, projection, and control. When concern turns into rumination, diagnosing, or mentally rehearsing what someone should do, it doesn’t deepen connection. It quietly wedges the ego into the relationship and steals the ease that makes love feel safe.
We also get concrete about how this shows up in real life: snapping a correction that carries irritation, spiralling about money and logistics, judging health choices, or building rigid protocols that create inner battles. Using an A Course in Miracles frame, we explore a simple practice: treat any upset or disturbance as a signal that the mind needs correction, not proof that the world is dangerous. That shift is not bypassing feelings. It is learning what feelings are actually for.
From there we zoom out to bigger fear narratives including politics, rent, media programming, and the urge to “save the world.” The invitation is direct: you are sustained by the love of God, not by circumstances, and nothing outside you has power unless you give it power. We end with a way to live this without perfectionism by choosing “happy games” over fixing and letting everything you perceive become useful for returning to peace. If this helped you, subscribe, share it with a friend who over-cares, and leave a review with the biggest place you’re ready to drop concern.
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Concern As Attack Disguised As Love
SPEAKER_00Yay! Thank you for joining. I love you. Thank you. So today, what came to me is concern is attack. Concern is something that's very, very common, and it's commonly associated with love. And from the ego's point of view, and you could say worldly conditioning, the way the world thinks, being concerned is a way to strengthen your empathy, which yes, it does strengthen empathy, but empathy isn't quite it. Empathy is also coming from a worldly point of view because it's as if you can join someone else in their pain. Okay. Concern, the way it came up for me today, someone shared with me that they have many friends who are on the wrong path, they're taking a hard path. And so the person is saying, you know, they're going through it because they're concerned. But believing and also very strongly believing, very committed to believing that being concerned is actually strengthening their heart, their compassion. It's actually strengthening their compassion and their relationships. So to the ego, this concern is as if it's good for your relationships, as it's as if it's helpful to your relationships. But here's the thing all of the people that you perceive are already taken care of. They're already taken care of by the spirit. They don't need your concern. And then look at what concern is. It takes a lot of thinking. It takes a lot of all it is is thinking. It's thinking about the person being being in danger, being being on the wrong path, setting themselves up for failure, things like that. So your mind's constantly churning about these things, and that that becomes what friendship is to you. You know, and that doesn't help the relationships, it just makes them more tumultuous because there's always this sense like you want something else to happen. You want something different to happen, whether it's for the other person so that they could be okay. You know, the sense of trying to help another person to be okay. It's not really enjoying, like it's not really enjoying a person, like happy children playing happy games. It's more like I know better than them, and they need to get it together. I've shared a lot about, you know, people that I know, friends that I have, family members, things like that, doing certain things that the world would think, wow, that's like they need help. Something's wrong, right? What I notice is if I let my mind go into that kind of direction, for one, it's stress. And a lot of the time stress goes unnoticed because we just get accustomed to constantly thinking in terms of something is wrong. That person needs to improve, something about them needs to get better. Now, I witnessed one friend telling another friend, trying to get convince the other friend that something was wrong with them, you know, trying to convince that friend that they had some kind of a psychological diagnosable thing, you know, like, hey, you something's wrong with you. You have ADHD or something like that. And the person's getting resistant to them saying that, but the person that's trying to convince them that they have ADHD really feels like they're just being helpful. They're just trying to help. That's concern, okay? Or you probably have this, you should go get that checked. You should go get help. That's what I mean. It comes in like that. And when you're talking about concern, it might as well be murderous rage. I mean, it is the really the same thing. This is what we were talking about last week when we when we were going over a course in miracles text, and it was about innocence is not out for blood, right? So there's these different ways that the ego is really out for blood, but it looks like friendship. So people start getting close to each other, and then they start think they can start telling each other what's wrong with them, right? So it doesn't strengthen friendship, it just strengthens the ego, doesn't really strengthen your connection with them through the innocence, through the purity. It just strengthens the ego, which kind of like is between you two. And that ends up being like a wedge in relationships. People still stay in the relationships while they're sour and you know, they're they're like peppered. There's some happy parts, but they're peppered with this unhappiness, this discontent with the way things are. And you know, teaching someone to be discontent with the way they are is not a way to get close, be really be close with them. The closeness really comes from reflecting people's innocence to them. So, from my point of view, you know, when someone's telling me and they're defending their ideas that they should be, this is how you do a friendship, and you should be concerned. From my point of view, it's just like, yeah, thanks for letting me know, you know. And I just like I just stay happy, I don't get concerned about them.
Compassion Or Control In Relationships
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Isn't it very common just for the average person out of the compassion of their heart to want to help somebody when they are perceiving something that they need help with something?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so Akai just asked, Isn't it common for a person out of the compassion of their heart to want to help a person with some with something when it seems like they need help with something? Yes, okay. So everything, you can say everything comes from love, it just gets distorted because there's this idea of the thought of separation. So it's a thought that something is wrong with someone. And you know, I've felt this my whole life. I've felt this when people would try to tell me like they're looking at me like something is wrong, you know, and they try to tell me how to make it better. I could feel it, it's an energy, it's a it's a sense, it's a sense like, you know, discontent within oneself and wanting to project it outward and fix another person. That's really what's going on. It's just wanting to protect, it's a it's just protecting this discontent from you knowing that you're discontent within yourself and then projecting it outward on another person, and then the desire to help that other person by fixing them. Yes, it's very, very common. Okay. So so this idea like I can help someone to get to be a better person. You were asking me that probably last week. Can't I help someone to be a better person? And that's the most common thing, you know. It's like, here's what's wrong with you, and here's how you can fix yourself. You know, this is not looking past the image to the innocence and appreciating the innocence. You know, it's one thing if you know that they want to know. Like I have some friends that want to know. They're like, Oh, tell me when I'm off track, tell me when I'm buying into illusion, right? And then it's it's being invited in that way. It's like, hey, you know, you might be hurting yourself with something like that. You know, it's it's kind of like being invited in that way. And and something comes to mind too, because because I said something to Tony last week when I kept on seeing him leaning over, you know, I kept on seeing him like with his posture just leaning over, and all of a sudden it just came out of my mouth. I go, stop leaning on things. And you know, you know, and that's and and that's that's what I'm talking about. It's like give me a heart. He's right here. Yeah, he kind of looked at me like, what the fuck? And I'm like, well, I know you want to know. I want, I know you want to know. You know, you know, this is just an unconscious thing people do that I notice all the time. They're leaning on things because they're not they're not secure in their own posture. So they're like, they'll like lean on a counter, lean on a fridge, wherever they stand, they're leaning on something, you know, and and and I notice myself, I notice in myself just the way that it came out, and that's all we need to do is just be aware of it. It's not a matter of making ourselves guilty or anything like that, it's just be aware of it. I was like, oh, and then I hugged him right away and I snuggled him and I said, and you know, of course, he was like, no, I do want to know when I'm leaning and stuff like that, or when I'm when I'm doing something like that. But you know, it's like it's a matter of of noticing within ourselves because it's so common that we would just project kind of like a discomfort within ourselves. And I'm looking at him over and over again. I'm seeing him doing that over and over again, and I notice it just starts to bother me. So uh, so this is this is what I mean, just noticing that okay, it is starting to bother you. That's different than you know, like letting someone know, but I just noticed the way it cut came out of myself. Stop leaning on things. That that's what I'm talking about. That's the concern. Like there's nothing to be concerned about, and really it's just noticing that there's nothing to be concerned about, and any kind of any kind of irritation or anything like that. It's not to make ourselves guilty, it's just to notice that okay, that's un whatever uncomfort the way it comes out, that's actually coming from my own mind. It's not coming from whatever he seems to be doing outside of me that's making that uncomfort. And sometimes I'll see it when it comes out, when it comes out of my mouth, you know, when it comes out like that. Like, stop doing it like that, right? That's that's irritation, and irritation is just the same as murderous rage. So it's not to make yourself guilty, it's just not to believe in ego thoughts that has you rise up against the truth and justify irritation. It doesn't need to be justified, and that doesn't mean you have to explain anything to another person or anything like that, you just notice it in yourself. Tony didn't even know that I noticed that in myself, I don't think, because I never talked to him about it. He's just hearing it for the first time. I didn't even know I was gonna say it. And the more you notice it, the less you're projecting. And this is how it is, though, when we come to when when we come into these close relationships with people, we tend to see things that they could change to be better. And you know, many times they want to know too, especially people who get close to me. A lot of the times they want to know. Like they tell me they want to know. Please let me know. You know, even even with the posture, once they start doing block therapy with me and stuff, yeah, I want to know when I'm leaning, you know, they might say. And that's fine because it's not really the it's not really the letting them know, it's the part where there's a feeling like something's wrong, and it's all on a feeling. This is an emotional journey. So noticing whenever there's some kind of irritation within ourselves, like people should be doing something different, and that's just and that's just for noticing that it's not really justified, it's not really something that's helpful because when we justify it, it just continues to grow. And what happens is we continue continue to see more problems with people and continue to start to nitpick their problems if we're coming out of irritation. When when we're being truly helpful, there's no irritation about it, there's no kind of like anger, okay? So that is that is very common to believe that something is wrong, that someone is going down the wrong path or
Irritation Poses As Helping
SPEAKER_00anything like that. And you know, I've shared with you guys how my daughter recently started doing more cocaine than she has before, apparently. And there's just no cause for concern. She's totally taken care of by the Holy Spirit, like there's really no cause for concern at all. And whenever I've shared anything with her, it hasn't been from any kind of irritation or anything like that. You know, at one point she was telling me, she's telling me a story, it was about her boyfriend and stuff like that. And I go, you know what I notice is you just are more monotone lately. I noticed that there's not that spark, like, what's going on? You know, kind of like asking the question like that. It wasn't coming from irritation. Like I could tell the difference. There's a different tone. You could see what the tone is. And and again, not to make it something wrong. It's just to recognize what it is. And our mind will just go on ruminating if we're not watching it, you know, even in even some kind of concern about something in your life, right? Something in your life, maybe something is hanging, it's not buttoned up, maybe some kind of uh an issue or a car issue or technical issue or something like that, it's not completely buttoned up. When your mind goes into that ruminating and watching it and noticing that's not helpful, that's never going to be helpful. Then you can relax right there. You actually get peace. You return to peace right there. When you're when your mind is ruminating over something and believing that the concern is actually helpful, that's where you gradually start to lose your sense of peace and don't notice it, right? So if you're focused all day long on coming back to peace, because that's what's going on. When you're having perceptions, you're perceiving this world, the world of form, you're constantly being pulled out of peace. And it's and even saying being pulled out isn't quite true because you're having a perception which you are projecting, so it's coming from you, and then you see it, you perceive that projection, and then you decide what it means. Remember, the mind decides what it means, so it's like you know, you might feel like, okay, what happens if I don't get this money back? Like, for instance, something that came up for me today. I just signed up for a new cell phone service and don't have my old service canceled yet. My old service is in my daughter's name under my daughter's account, and I wasn't able to port it over. So now I have two of them at the same time. So I'm paying double. Now I I was thinking I'm saving money by going to the second one, but now I'm paying double because I haven't been able to coordinate with my daughter to get her to get me the to port me out, get my number poured out, right? So then the sense comes to me this morning because I asked for this yesterday. The sense comes to me this morning. What if she doesn't do it? What if she just goes like completely silent and I don't hear from her for a while, you know? And and that happens well, you know, while I'm in the block therapy this morning, and I see it and immediately recognize it's not a problem. You know, the idea will come out. Well, what if you have to pay double? It's all gonna work out, right? It's all gonna work out. It's just the way it is. It's it's like it's not something to start ruminating over. So what happens in our relationship, and this is how our relationships become rocky, tumultuous. Usually when people get close to each other, they start having more problems, actually. They start having more issues because they they have these feelings that are that are up about each other. So what I notice is when I have that sense like something is wrong and come back to the truth, then there's no projections going on, like about my daughter. I know from years back, if something like that would occur to me, my mind would just ruminate because I wouldn't be watching it and it would go over all these scenarios about how you know she's doing this and it's so bad and all these kinds of things. But just to let myself rest, there's no such thing as money. That's the other thing. A lot of times money will come into something. It's like, it's like, wow, now I'm now it's like this. Now I've I'm out this kind of money. Well, there is no such thing as money, and if you look at it as it's just a play, it's a play of consciousness, it's on a screen, and things are just unfolding without you doing anything, actually. They're just unfolding, and we're getting these projections and we're getting these perceptions, we're projecting it into the field, getting perceptions as if there might be a problem. So the mind decides, the mind actually can decide because the mind's always outside of time. The mind
Dropping Rumination And Returning To Peace
SPEAKER_00actually isn't in time, the mind is outside of time. That's why they call it the now moment that never changes, right? It's outside of time. It can decide that there's no problem, it can always decide that. And I don't mean spiritual bypassing or something, I don't mean bypassing your feelings. That's what spiritual bypassing is. This is embracing the feelings and recognizing there isn't anything for you to think about when it comes to that thing, except for everything is everything is already solved. Okay, Christine said an upset feeling or disturbance is a grievance, and grievances hide miracles from us. That was a lesson. She's on 77, lesson 77 today. I am entitled to miracles. Okay, so lesson 77 from a course in miracles is saying an upset feeling or disturbance is a grievance. Okay, so that's the thing. It's always, it's always gonna be a grievance, and the ego will tell you that it's somehow good for you to ruminate on a thought like that, like it's gonna somehow be helpful. And it's like for me, I know that all of the solutions are just going to appear to me as they do, whether it means I'm calling ATT and seeing if I could port my number without her help, or I'm calling the new service and going, never mind, I'm not able to get off the old service. All that'll just come to me when it does, it'll just arise for me when it does. So I don't have to. That's why I can stay in uh in a state of peace. It fluctuates, but it's like the decision is always to come back. The decision is always to come back, and the reason it fluctuates is because we're projecting from a separate self, the separate selves that's that's projecting this world, we're projecting the separate separate world from. So we're getting perceptions of a separate world. This is not a bad thing, it's actually the means for undoing the thought of separation for the for the whole mind, for everyone, you could say. That's a means for undoing the thought of separation. So I'm always like, hooray, whenever whatever I see. You look at it, it's always fluctuating. The thing is, the more you come into the peace of God and be willing to stay in the peace of God, no matter what arises, the fluctuations aren't taking you way off center. You're not going way off center because you're noticing these small, these smaller things. And even though the smaller ones are just the same, they're on the same level as what I'm saying, murderous rage. So a little irritation is just the same as murderous rage. But look at this. If you're not, if you're not going that far, you're only going to irritation, you're not fluctuating that much as far as how you feel. You're still feeling close to God, you're still still feeling very close, right? And you're recognizing that even that little irritation, the reason why you know that it's the same as murderous rage or extreme terror, okay. The reason why you know it's the same, because you know that it needs to be forgiven so it doesn't go unnoticed. That's the reason. You're you know, you're barely being pulled off of your piece. Say, but that barely being pulled off your piece is being used as a means instead of just letting it go unnoticed. If it goes unnoticed, then it just keeps on it, it just keeps on going in the same direction. It builds on itself, and then eventually you find yourself so lost, you're like, How the heck did I get here? How did I get to this place? Right? So it's just the little irritation. That's why I'm pointing out today, especially since it came up in my field today, is concern. Just a little bit of concern. That's a great opportunity for forgiveness, and it'll keep you very close to God. It won't let you get pulled too much off center in believing that feeling concerned about someone or something that seems to be arising in your field is justified in any way. It's like, oh, I can't be at peace right now. I have to think about this right now. That's kind of like what it is. It's like I can't, I can't rest right now because I have to think about this thing first. It's victimization. Really, it's like it's like I could enjoy you so much more if you were just healed. I could enjoy this person, right? Or I can enjoy myself so much more if I could if I was just healed. This is concern. See, there's no need for it. It doesn't need to be done. It arises, it arises spontaneously. It's kind of automatic. Okay. Thank you, Christine. Yay. I'm just checking on my live streams here. Okay. All right. Thank you for joining, everyone. I appreciate you. What's that doing? Okay. So without concern, like, what is it? What look at what relationships look like without the concern? You're just enjoying everyone. You're just enjoying all the people, however, they are. And that's what I notice. Like when I'm talking to someone, a lot of the times I'm talking to people and they're expressing nonsense. And a lot of the times they're really can committed to nonsense, too. Just me being able to see that it is nonsense without trying to correct them, too. That's how I could be playful with them and see the innocence, just keeping it light with people and not trying to get so close that you want to correct them. Now I've seen throughout my life where I've just gotten a feeling like, ooh, like when someone would try to tell me something and didn't really realize why. Like, why is why does it feel like that? Why does it feel like I don't want to be around that person now because they want to try to correct me? They want to try to tell me something. This is way before Course in Miracles for me, or you know, any of this understanding. Now, when people try to correct me or anything like that, I have a good time with it. It's not a problem for me at all. I think it's great. I think it's so cute. But but I would feel this, this kind of like ew, I and not know why, but that's the reason because it's coming from a dissatisfaction within themselves. And we can feel each other. So when we feel dissatisfied within ourselves, we get these kinds of reactions from other people too. I noticed, you know, for many years I was on I'd be on Facebook arguing with people, and it was it came from that sense like I need to be helpful by trying to correct them, trying to correct how they see things, and noticing for myself when someone will come on like that, aloha, someone will come on like that and just make a comment in a way that seems to be like it's trying to correct me. I'm like, oh, I know I know that, I know how that is. I've been like that before, you know. So then I can I can reply to them really lovingly, like taking care of them because I know it's coming from a dissatisfaction within themselves. So that keeps me from also being defensive, becoming defensive. So when you raise another person's defenses, that's how you know that you have expressed dissatisfaction within yourself. Like when you're trying to be helpful and you raise another person's defenses, that's
Ego Help Versus Holy Spirit Help
SPEAKER_00the that's the concern that I'm talking about. There's a sense of trying the ego's always trying to be helpful, right? It believes that this way of being helpful is going to actually help the person and possibly deepen the relationship, too. So listening to the Holy Spirit is a totally different thing than listening to the ego. The Holy Spirit isn't trying to be helpful, you don't need to try to be helpful. The Holy Spirit is automatically helpful, so there's no trying involved at all. It's just a matter of listening and listening to what is truly helpful. You know, it's it's like let me be truly helpful. To be truly helpful is allowing you to kind of like step back. It's almost like you feel your your self-identity, your personal identity stepping back and letting the Holy Spirit just speak. In that, you're calm. So what I'll do is I'll watch my body's energy field and notice if it gets into any kind of trying. Trying has a particular tone to it. Okay, trying to help, for instance, that has a particular tone about it. The Holy Spirit's helpfulness is feels way more playful and relaxed. Right? And it's not a matter of you getting it perfect, you being perfect all the time, doing it perfect or anything like that. Notice your opportunities, notice your forgiveness opportunities, right? Just just see where you're you're like overreaching, you're trying to be the one to be helping the other person instead of just letting yourself relax and be along for the ride. That's really what it feels like. It's like you're just relaxed and along for the ride, and there's no need to be helpful. Like you could see it. It's kind of like it's kind of like the energy field is either almost leaning back, kind of like laying back and relaxing, or going forward. It's almost like a forward movement where it's trying to be helpful. Okay, we get that a lot when when we're uh talking about kids. The parents are always trying to help the kids to do things better and to do things differently. That's how I got really tuned in to what it feels like to be truly helpful and to be trying to be helpful, what the difference is between those two. Because I could see the sense within myself of just moving forward and also the reaction in them, even getting a reaction from someone, some like to make them confounded. Like, is something wrong with me? Is anything wrong with me? You know, whenever someone asks me something like that, I'll be like, no, nothing is wrong with you. You are perfect just the way you are. And if I said something that made you feel like something was wrong with you, I was wrong about that. That is not the case. You are totally perfect as you are, nothing needs to change about you. And that's true all the time. It really is. Because the even the person that we're perceiving is not who we are. And when we believe that this person that we're perceiving is somehow deficient, then that's because we're identifying with the person that we're perceiving. That's what I notice. We're identifying with that person that we're perceiving. Look, the person that's being perceived is going to come across as an idiot a lot of the times. That is a common thing is for the for this person that's being perceived to come across like that. It's like you bless that perception. They don't have to get better. You don't have to get better. They're all you anyways. When you're seeing when you're seeing a person and it seems like they need to get better, it's all the the only idea is that you need to get better and you don't want to see that, so you're projecting it outward. And that can get kind of sticky in circumstances where, you know, like for me, I lead a class where we're playing a video from block therapy, and I'm looking at my friends, and my friends a lot of the times want to know what's being cued, and a lot of the times they're not in the position that's being cued, you know. So I'm real careful with that to be like, okay, you guys, that's not really what's being cued. Like where you are right now isn't being cued. But the fact of the matter is, wherever you want to be is fine, it's all really fine. In case you want to know what's being cued, and sometimes it'll still be taken like I'm doing it wrong. It's such a common thing for a person to take it, like I'm doing it wrong. And it's like, oh, you're not doing it wrong. It's just that if you want to know what's and just tell me, if you don't want to know what's being cued, and you just want to do your own thing, just tell me. But this is what it is that's being cued, and this is where the position is, and stuff like that. And I'll see how it just fluctuates, and sometimes I'll be called to just not say anything, just let them be in the position they're in and not say anything about where to go. So it gets kind of sticky when you're in situations like that, but still listening to the Holy Spirit is always the same, it's it always feels the same. Are you attached to them looking the way you want them to look, them being in the form that you want them to be? I know with my kids, there seemed to be attachment. I went through raising kids for a long time, so I got to see a lot of different progressions. There was a time when I was just really, really strict. Like I just wanted my kids to just perform and do the things that the world thought that they should do. Go to school, do their homework, all these things, get clean, brush their teeth. I mean, and it went all the way to the opposite of all that stuff, too. It was just like, oh, you don't want to brush your teeth? And the thought would come in my mind, oh my gosh, what if they don't brush their teeth? And I'm watching, you know, the thought, it's like, what if they don't brush their teeth? What if they get cavities? And it's and it would come back to me from what I learned from an unschooling mentor that I had. She asked me, What's your problem with that? Right? What's your problem? And so I'd look at my problem with them not brushing their teeth, and I just kind of investigate what is my problem with that? Okay, what if their teeth get all rotten? Okay, then they need to go to the dentist, and then the dentist is looking at me and says, Did you make them brush their teeth? And I'm like, No, I let them do what they want. And then I'm being looked at like I'm a bad person. Okay, that's one of the problems that seemed to come up, right? So it's self-shame. Another problem was, another apparent problem was it would cost me a lot more money in the long run if they didn't brush their teeth. So I'm just like noticing the apparent problems that are coming up, and still the guidance wasn't there to make a person do something that they didn't want to do. I was, I'd already done that. I did that when with my daughter when she was growing up. Make a person do something that they didn't want to do, and noticing how that hurt within myself, right? So I would just let them not brush their teeth and notice, wow, there's a lot more peace when I'm not making them do something, whether their teeth are brushed or not, whether they take a shower and they're stinky, whether they do their homework, whatever it is, when I'm not trying to interfere and force a person to do, even though they're a kid, to do something that they don't want to do, it's just a lot more peaceful. And my relation, my relationship with them is a lot more close. It's not this relationship where there's one who's in authority and the other one who has to obey. That's a totally different relationship. And that's how it is in the in the ego mind, too. The ego wants authority over you. The ego wants to express its authority. This is what you should be doing. And then if you're not doing this, okay, but I'm gonna shame you. I'm gonna say you're not good enough all day long until you get that thing fixed, until you stop that habit, right? Until you, until you learn how
Parenting Without Shame Or Force
SPEAKER_00to be a better person, for instance. This radical kind of acceptance where you don't have concern over things in the world, you're just allowed to be completely free. You're just allowed to be just exactly as you are, letting things play as they do. So, another example you could definitely come across as concern. You know, Tony and I have not been drinking coffee for a while. We we just both they just that just fell away for both of us. It wasn't really like we're not gonna drink coffee. We weren't even uh akay too. Apparently that happened for a Kay too. So and and you know, we we didn't even know we both did that until we were like, Yeah, we're I'm not drinking coffee. Oh, me neither. So the other night we were out and and I was like, you know, what sounds good is some buca and coffee, alcohol coffee, right? I haven't been having any alcohol either, apparently. Well, seldomly. That's another thing I want to talk about. The the the attachment to avoidance. But so so uh Tony goes, yeah, but I'm not drinking coffee, something like that. I'm not I'm not drinking coffee right now. And I go, Well, you're not really doing anything, you know. It comes back to that, you're watching a show. See how we to we tend to get stuck on, but this is the thing right now, this is what I'm not doing right now, and we're not really doing anything, we're actually just watching a show. We're actually just watching things unfold, and and so we when we as we watch things unfold and recognize we're not making any choices, not on what we drink or anything, we're not making any choices, you know. What I saw is these habits fall away as habits, as in, you know, this habit of of seemingly drinking alcohol night after night, smoking spliffs day after day, all these different habits, a lot of them just kind of like, hey, those those went away. That's weird, but they could come back. It's not saying they can't come back, see? So recognizing that you're watching a show and then you can actually be like happy children. Oh, I'm not making any of these decisions. It seems like we are, because if we start shaming ourselves, if we start shaming ourselves and going, Yeah, but we're not doing that right now, then you may find yourself making the decision and asking the waitress for something else besides we ended up getting decaf coffee, apparently. It was nighttime. We were both kind of like, we don't really want to jolt jolt right now. Do you have decaf? Yeah, okay. Then that sounded really good. So when you're going off of inspiration, you know, everything is just playful and fun, and you don't have to be avoiding anything. So letting letting habits fall away as they do, and noticing, oh, those fell away. Oh, well, that feels really good. And noticing that feels really good. Still, we don't have to start to control ourselves, right? We don't have to start to control ourselves. So so so yeah, I related that to Tony, and he goes, Yeah, that just feels really good. Now we don't have to do anything about it, we're just watching this play unfold and we can enjoy whatever it is, whether we're having the coffee or not, whether we're having the alcohol or not, we can just enjoy the play and notice how you feel. Really, just notice how you feel, right? If the next day you notice you know, you know, you're not feeling as good, just notice that you don't feel as well the next day. But then don't blame it on the substance from the day before. It's not to blame it on that substance, because how you feel also comes from your mind in the moment. When you blame it on the substance, that's where you have this resistance with it. You really have this reason, you just notice. Notice without coming to any conclusions. Notice without the conclusion that alcohol made me feel this way. When you're noticing how you feel without the conclusion, even your seeming choices are going to be congruent with your joy. They're just naturally going to be congruent with your joy, okay? So it's like noticing without blaming. You see what I mean? You can't if you blame, if you blame the way you feel on something you did last night or some substance or something like that, then you're automatically setting yourself up for more seeming cause and effect, worldly cause and effect like that. But it's really the whole thing's running off of your emotions. The whole play is like running off of your emotions. So if you're getting, and everything's emotional. So if you're blaming something that happened before for how you feel right now, that's an emotional thing. Okay. So so note, then you notice how it feels. You just notice without trying to come to any conclusions about what things mean in the field. And then it'll just be allowed to continue to play out for your joy. Because whenever you feel any kind of uncomfort, anything like that, it's all caused by a thought. It's not caused by a thing in the field, it's a mind that's powerful to make illusions, it's not caused by something in the field. So just note, but the cause and effect do seem to be at play at the same time. The thing is, you don't have to manage that at all. You're just noticing, and that's it. Okay. So it's so it's really playful like that. And you can be playful with everything that comes up, any kind of decision. It's just like, oh, what is the most joyful to me? Do I feel inspired toward that? The Holy Spirit really speaks to speaks to you through through inspiration. So it's like this: the Holy Spirit doesn't tell you what to do. The Holy Spirit doesn't tell you, order the decaf coffee with sambuka in it. The Holy Spirit doesn't talk like that, right? The Holy Spirit just shows you the true thoughts, the true thoughts that that agree with the truth of who you are. And that's and that's that you're perfect, you're innocent, you're not making those choices, none of those choices matter, things like that. Now, whatever choices you do seem to make in the field, notice if they're coming from inspiration or from fear. That'll tell you what's going on. That'll tell you what voice you're listening to. So if you're making fearful choices, kind of like you're clammed up or you're trying to sacrifice or get something in the future, just notice this is meant to be a playful game. Let those choices unfold through inspiration, through being playful. You don't have to uh try to determine whether or not you're gonna feel good tomorrow, even. You don't have to try to determine that. You know, it's this whole thing can be totally joyful and playful all for your uh all for your enjoyment as you're undoing these thoughts and see how it comes up just so simply like that, like you're sitting in a place and it seems like you actually need to make a choice. No, you just need to make a choice between love and fear. You don't need to make a choice on what you're gonna eat or anything like that. I'll look at the menu and and feel like what's lighting up for me. What is the most inspired thing, you know? How does it feel?
Habits Food And Avoidance Patterns
SPEAKER_00So another thing that's been coming up in my field has been this attraction to avoidance. That's another form of sacrifice, an attraction to avoidance, trying to avoid things that seem like they would be harmful, let's say, trying to avoid them. So that's that sets you up. I've seen it many times, even with people who are, let's say, on cocaine, right? They and they try to avoid the cocaine. And what I see is that's what actually makes people do it to a point where it seems like it hurts them because they're trying to avoid it, they're trying to not do it. People get involved in AA and and and narcotics anonymous and try to avoid things. And what happens is they end up doing something else that seems to hurt them. Nothing in the field can actually hurt you, but when you're avoiding something, when you're avoiding anything, it's telling your mind that the cause and effect that's set up in the world is really true. That's what it's telling your mind. And that's not really true. Good or bad, something good or bad. Like let's say you take supplements. I find my tell myself taking supplements, and it seems like I'm really good at protocols. Now, when I seem to miss supplements, which seems to be very rare right now, when I seem to miss supplements, that's how I'll that's how I'll recognize there's a forgiveness opportunity because the mind will come in as if something's wrong. Now now you've gotten off of your protocol. See, even something good can be like that. So even whether it's good or bad, something seems to be good or bad in the field, if you're avoiding, you know, if you're if you're avoiding something, you're making it as if cause and effect are true. And if you're if you're feeling like you have to do something and you're and you're pretending like you have to do something to have the good effects too, that's also the same kind of thing. We don't need to avoid anything. And here's what I notice because earlier on my whole life, when I would try to eat well, I try to avoid certain foods. I try to avoid things that I seem to like, like donuts, right? Like candies, stuff that I think is going to hurt me, right? And once I stopped trying to avoid anything, I mean, first I just I just found myself eating anything. And I found myself having a habit of eating sugary things every day, eating chocolate every day, and then just didn't make an issue of it, didn't make it into a problem. Just always noticing how I feel, but not blaming it on anything, right? Eventually, at a point, all those things, those seeming things, the things that seem to be messing up your diet or whatever, they just became unappealing to me. It's very different from avoidance. In fact, I found myself a couple weeks ago, someone gave me a muffin, right? This is a little muffin. It was really small, and I just looked at it and I go, hmm, all right. Sounds good. I'll try this muffin. I'll try this out. You know, it's just like in the moment, it was just joyful to eat the muffin. I ate the muffin and I was like, yeah, that's just not something I feel like I just don't feel attracted to it. I just like not attracted to it. But it's not an avoidance thing at all. It's just open to it. It's not like that thing is never gonna cross my lips. That's I actually have said that before. I said I'm not letting something like kind of like what Jack Lelane was saying. If it tastes good, spit it out. That's a that's the that that that's that attachment to avoidance. It's like as if certain things in this world can hurt us. I've seen people be like that with AI. That's another one. Not no, AI is bad. I'm not touching AI. I've seen people be that be like that with Wi-Fi service. Some people will be, well, they can't really go anywhere, it seems, because anywhere they go, it's Wi-Fi everywhere, you know. I've I've had people tell me they are living in a metal container, one of those shipping containers. I guess the metal helps, I don't know, to avoid the Wi-Fi in the world, and they stay away from Wi-Fi all the time. And I'll be like, oh, really? I seem to be in Wi-Fi 24-7. Like it's on when I'm sleeping, it's always going. And and they're and and they kind of like look at me a little bit confused, you know, because I look pretty healthy. I'm in that thing, and I'm happy. I'm in that thing 24-7. It doesn't seem to be any kind of problem, right? So, this avoidance, we set ourselves up like this to be avoiding things in the world, avoiding places, avoiding particular people. That's not that's not listening because it's saying you know better. That's not listening to the guidance in the moment. And again, how does it come? It's inspiration. The guidance comes on inspiration, but when the guidance comes on fear, fear is avoiding things, fear is trying to avoid certain things, okay. What another one is canola oil. Like, I don't go and buy canola oil and stick it in my house, okay? Some people might might hear me say canola oil, and it's like, what's the problem with canola oil? Yeah, exactly. Well, I seem to I I seem to know some worldly knowledge about canola oil not being a good oil for the body. Apparently, it doesn't emulsify in the system, so I don't find myself like going to the store and buying canola oil. Now, am I trying not to eat the canola oil? No, not necessarily. Like when I go out to a restaurant and I'm ordering something, it may have canola oil in it. I don't know. It could. Once in a while, I might feel inspired to ask them, what kind of oil are you using? But the this avoidance, this the as if as if things in the world are so harmful that I have to try to avoid things, that's also making our body real to our mind. And so, and when we're making something real like that, when we're making our body real, we're also making threats real. So it's as if things in the world can threaten us. So, see, there's concern for the body like that too. You see how concern is coming back around, because that's concern for the body, where you're trying to avoid certain things. You're trying to because you're trying to imagine that there's things in the world that can attack your body. But the only thing that can attack your body truly is your own mind. And even the apparent choices that you make where it seems like the thing harms you, it's really only your mind that's attacking your body, and that's all that's going on. That's all aging, too, and that's what leads the body down the path towards death, too. It's this mind that's saying that this body is vulnerable to things in the world, or that there's things in the world that can help it. So it's kind of tricky because it looks that way, right? It totally looks that way. Like for me, I find myself taking supplements and seemingly it seems like the way I eat, it seems like it's really helpful. It wouldn't be like that for everyone. I mean, everyone doesn't think that. For instance, there's lots of vegans and vegetarians around here. You know, I was going around the festival, Sunday festival at the at the lawn yesterday looking for meat. I was looking for meat, I was saying, man, I'm looking for meat in all the wrong places. Everywhere I go, there are vegans around here. Where's the meat?
unknownRight?
SPEAKER_00And it seems so it seems like these things apparently help us and certain things apparently hurt us. But it's our mind that really makes the decision to see that none of these things actually have an eff have any effects. They're only seeming to have effects, and we're not even making a choice in whether we do these things. And then the seeming effects are playing out, you know, it's on one level. So yes, it seems like when I when I eat the way my my eating protocol is, where I have a protein shake in the morning and then and then eggs later on, and then some yogurt with some fruit later on, and then something meat later on. It's like basically pretty protocols, like four these four different four different meals that I apparently apparently have throughout the day seem to be pretty protocol, and they seem to be making certain effects, but the mind decides that those effects that I'm perceiving actually come from the mind, it doesn't actually come from the things that I'm just kind of like watching with them with amazement. It's like, wow, it's amazing. I just have the same, seem to have the same protocol every day, and it's just noticing, oh yeah, that feels good. It's noticing, oh yeah, that feels good. But if it changes too, like the other night, they threw in some some uh decaf coffee and and some buca in there, notice when it changes too, and also notice how you feel for myself. I didn't notice any different, I still felt awesome, right? So if you're shaming yourself, and I have experience with this too, because I have been very protocoled and also believed that these cause and effects were really true. And when I believed the cause and effects were true, that was pressure on my mind. And when it was pressure on my mind, I would have to have days where I would just like need to eat all kinds of things. It's almost like you're hurting yourself with food. It's almost like you're just like gorging and having a bunch of like a lot of, for instance, like Starbucks to start out with, and where can I get more to fill this hole, to fill this lack, to fill this sense like I've been deprived, to fill this sense like I've been sacrificing so that I could get what I want in the world. Do you see the difference? So it's like if there's this sense that you uh that the cause and effect are really true and the pressure is on you, it's like you can't even maintain. You can't maintain the thing. If there's a habit that you think you shouldn't be doing, it becomes a battle with yourself. So when we get into a battle with ourselves, then things that we see even seem to want to do are more difficult. And again, that's concern. That's actually concern for the body, which the world would tell you, concern for the body works. The world would totally tell you that concern for the body works, but truly, it doesn't work because it leads toward death and it makes it very difficult on you, and also what it leads to is condemning other people who aren't doing it like you. Okay, lots more animals have to pass away when you do animal when you do agriculture. They're just smaller, and even if you're not doing agriculture, let's say all you eat is stuff that falls off trees. The tree gave it, you ate it. The plant dropped it, you ate it. Just walking around. It's a killing world. That's how it's set up. Don't worry though, nothing is dying. Truly, nothing, nothing is. It's not like that. So it just the idea, like looking around, too, and saying what other people should be doing and trying to see what other people should be doing. I don't go around and try to change any of those guys' mind. I'm just like, yeah, thank you for thank you for telling me. Meanwhile, I'm looking for the meat. And you know, there's all kinds of debates about it and stuff like that. There's no reason to get into any any of those kinds of debates. No reason at all. It's just it's just all given us, you know. As humans, if you're manifesting as a human, okay, you're the one that has a choice, nothing else has a choice. Animals don't have a choice, plants don't have a choice, they're just manifesting for us. The humans, we have a choice. We have that choice between love and fear. Nothing else has that choice between love and fear. Okay, everything on the the earth, the planet, whatever you want to call it, there's nothing here. It's given us so that we can make the choice. It's really it really is given us that so that we can make the choice. The sense that things are dying, they're in pain, all that kind of stuff, it's not really true. It isn't really true. Humans are making a choice between love and fear. That's what's going on, and that's what the whole thing, the whole play is for humans to make that choice because humans aren't really humans either. If you're manifesting as a human, you're given that choice. You're the one who has the choice, you're the one who's making it up, you're making the animals appear to be here, you're making the plants appear to be here. Nothing is really here. Okay, they're they're manifesting for you. Nothing is really dying. There's really nothing to be concerned about in the world. There's the world itself, being concerned about the world
Projecting Threats Onto Body And World
SPEAKER_00itself. That's another one. So there's this idea that we should try to save the world, save the earth, make it a better earth, make people more caring, better stewards of the earth, things like that. This is pressure on your mind. It's an attack on your body, it's an attack on bodies. You don't have to have all this kind of stress. The earth is doing just fine. It's it's perfectly reflecting a mind. Okay, it's perfectly reflecting a mind. It's not uh, it's not ever, it's not ever in any peril, it's not ever in any danger. You know, I've heard I've heard that if you look at a big city like New York or LA or something like that from way up in the sky, and I've seen it too, it looks like a disease. Right? It looks like a disease, but it's reflecting a diseased mind. It does look like a disease, but it's just reflecting a diseased mind. So trying to, it's like it's kind of like trying to fix the mirror, right? It's trying you can't fix the mirror, it's reflecting something. So, what people will do is believe that if they could just fix, make smart cities, for instance. I don't know how that's fixing anything or anything, really, uh, or or or wipe out all of the cities and make it into make it into just regular land again. It's a mirror. That's not how it gets changed. War also, it's a mirror. We're at war in our own minds, we're at war with ourselves in our own minds, and it can come across very subtle. I've given you guys several examples about that today, how it can come across so subtle. This concern thing, being concerned about the earth, being concerned that it's not it's not gonna go right.
Politics Rent And Blame Stories
SPEAKER_00I was talking to a friend yesterday who was telling me about how the prices for rent are so high. You know, apparently the prices for rent are around it's around $5,000 for a three-bedroom house, like a regular three-bedroom house in a lot of places. It's around $5,000. This is what I heard. I don't know. I have not been paying rent, but it's about it's around $5,000, apparently. And that seems to be very cumbersome from the person I was talking with. She was saying, this is just it's too much. $5,000 is just too much. And I I go, I go, well, why do you think five thousand dollars is too much? And it's like, we don't make that much money, and then I hear where the blame is coming in. So it's always blame that's causing something like that, and you know, that's like that's coming from concern, like the like something can be too much, it's it's just gonna wipe us out. We're not gonna be able to survive, we're not gonna be able to buy food, stuff like that. So the concern and then the blame, and it's the governor of that state, the governor, whatever the governor is doing, he's doing something wrong. She had a derogatory derogatory name for the governor. It's California. She called him new scum. I go, oh, whoa, wait a second. I hear that. I hear that. And you know, she goes, they're satanists, though. They're satanists. I'm like, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not disagreeing with you, okay? They're satanists, they they freaking do satanic rituals. I have said that before, okay? Yes, they do satanic rituals, they're satanists, they really believe that controlling the people and controlling perceptions is somehow helpful. But the thing is, why there's no cause for concern? It doesn't affect you. It does not affect you. What? How can you say it doesn't affect me? They're making policies, and it's definitely seems to be affecting me. The policies they're making are directly affecting how much inflation is going up and how I have to pay this rent now. I'm like, you are locked into a belief that you've been practicing. This is all that's going on. You're locked into a belief, and it's as if what someone else is doing can actually have an effect on you. It cannot have an effect on you. Nothing anyone else does has any effect on you unless you say so, then your mind is making it as if they're having an effect on you, but they're still not, they're still not doing anything to you. See? So when you have concern over your life, how your life is gonna go, how are you gonna make it? There's gonna be someone to blame, or something to blame, some kind of circumstance, something that's that justifies your being concerned about how you're gonna make it or how your friends are gonna make it. So that was uh that was kind of jarring for her because you know, she's like, she's like, are you telling me just that you just don't care about these things? I'm like, no, I'm not saying I don't care. I'm not saying I don't care. I'm saying they're useful, they're all useful, whatever it is, it's useful for undoing. We want to undo this world of separation. We don't want to keep on projecting it. So when we make it as if their satanic rituals are somehow affecting us, we're seeing effects, and and it seems like they are affecting us, and we're making that as if it's the reality, then we're projecting the same thing over and over again instead of using it to undo it. Using it to undo it looks like this concern really isn't justified. There's no way that something that another person seems to be doing, something outside of myself, is possibly affecting me, good or bad. Even anything that I seem to do cannot be affecting me either good or bad. There we go. Try to get him. I got majorly shut out there by the sun, apparently. So my friend goes, Okay, that's gonna be my homework then. That's enough for me right now to have to look at. My idea that this political person, and you know, of course, it's it's also it's also a matter of thinking that the people on one side, she called them socialists, the socialist people are doing it wrong, and then the people who are not socialists that's the Republican side, Republican Democrat, same thing, are doing it right. It's the same. But most of my friends, at least when they're vocal, they're vocal about it, think that the Republican side is doing it wrong. This one thinks the Democrat side is doing. Doing it wrong. It doesn't really matter. It's just that believing that one of those, either of them, any of them, can have an effect on your life. That's the part that hurts your mind. And again, that comes from concern over your life. You need to take no concern over your life. You're sustained by God and only God. That's the thought system. That comes from the thought system of the Holy Spirit. This is the thought system for the truth that you're only sustained by God. There's nothing in the world that can harm you. There's nothing in the world that can touch you. When you're aware of that, then anyone can be in power. Anyone can be doing any kind of satanic rituals. You're not turning a blind eye to it. You're not saying, no, they're not doing satanic rituals. Look, the World Economic Forum, they started off with a satanic ritual. Okay, that's how they do it. They do satanic rituals. The Super Bowl. They're doing a satanic ritual at the Super Bowl. Okay. It's this, it's this belief like we can benefit, like they can benefit from controlling everyone's perception. Okay, it's it's silly. It doesn't make any sense. It's not something to be afraid of. Being afraid of something actually, you know, it starts out as a little bit of concern, really does. Really starts out with a little bit of concern for yourself. I was watching something from the World Economic Forum. Forgot how it came across my feed, but I but it came up. And I'm just looking at the people, you know, even like the way they're dressed and stuff, it's like, hey, we're in a satanic cult together. You know what I mean? They're like, it looks funny. And and they think they're in charge. And they think that pretty soon, you know, we're not going to need a phone to hold a phone in our hand because it's all going to be implanted in our brain. So this is the kind of thing that people get scared of. And, you know, this comes from, again, concern over your body, concern for your well-being. There's nothing here to be afraid of. Even if they hold you down and implant something in your brain, okay, even if they seem to do something like that, you still have the choice between love and fear. That's all your power. That's where all your creative power is. You still make that choice between love and fear, okay? Let's say I seem to be I seem to be loving loving the way I'm eating right now. And let's say, you know, a thought occurs to me, well, what if I really don't have the resources? I'm going to Sri Lanka. I don't even know what their food is like over there, you know. What will I be eating over there? Right? And and and well, I still have the means. Well, well, I still have the means going forward. That's something that comes into the mind all the time. It's like, take no concern, zero concern for what you'll eat or drink, or how you'll be, or what you'd be able to afford. That's a big thing. That's why you're able to be controlled, let's say, by something that seems to be outside of yourself. You're really being controlled by your own mind. There's still, it's still not controlling you. Nothing outside of you is ever controlling you. But why you feel like you're caged in, and this is one of the one of the like psychological operations, you could say. It goes on the news all the time about how the seniors can't afford their prescription drugs, right? Like they need these prescription drugs, and now they're getting more expensive and they can't afford them. So everybody better get out and vote. So you vote for the right person. Of course, half of the people think one person one side is gonna solve it, about half thinks the other side is gonna solve it because it's an illusion and it's meant to be division. You know, you don't need anything in the world, you don't need a prescription drug, you don't need any particular kind of food. You really don't need any food at all. The food that you do need will come to you, and the food that you don't have is food that you don't need. When you start to look at things like that, you'll see how sustained that you are. You really see how sustained you are. You really see how you don't have to earn anything, you don't have to go out and pave the pound the pavement and get it so that you can get what you need to get what you to get what you think you you you need for your body, right? You don't have to have any concern about your body, how it's gonna survive, what it's gonna wear, what it's gonna eat, anything like that. There's no need for that. There really isn't. You can just let the things come, you can just let them arise.
Sustained By The Love Of God
SPEAKER_01I like the saying that uh I've learned from you, which is really simple. And if you just remember it, I am sustained by the love of God.
SPEAKER_00Yes, that's actually from a course in miracles. Yeah, it's it's one of the lessons. Akay said he really likes a saying that he learned from me, which I learned from a course in miracles, and it's I am sustained by the love of God. That's one of the lessons in a course in miracles. That's I believe it's lesson 50 from listening to Ben Bigelow's song, because that's the last thing he sings in the first 50 lessons. If you want to listen to the first 50 lessons of a course in miracles, you can look it up on Spotify. His name is Ben Bigelow, and he does an album called This Is a Course in Miracles. He's got the first 50 in one song. And in fact, I took that song and I sent it to someone on Fiverr and I paid them to make it into a YouTube video so that if you're ever at karaoke, you can sing it at karaoke. Because I wanted to do that. So it ends with it starts with nothing I see means anything, and ends with I am sustained by the love of God. It's a great song. All he all he does is all 50 lessons. Yeah, but yeah, I'm I'm sustained by the love of God. So I don't have to have concern about anything, and everyone else is sustained by the love of God. So it doesn't matter how close I am to a person. I have a I have one son, one of my sons doesn't like to take showers very often. He's 18, and you know, sometimes I hug him. I'm like, oh, damn, that's ooh.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_00I have no concern about it, right? And that's just that's just from so from practicing over and over again. Of course, people of the world are gonna be like, that's not right. You should have concern. You should be telling him that he needs to get clean. I mean, gosh, he isn't even circumcised. What if his dick gets infected or something like that? It's like, we will just approach whatever it is at the time that it arises. We're fine. I remember, I remember back, you know, when he was younger, and people would tell me, your son's uncircumcised. Don't you have to like pull that thing back and clean it? I'm like, I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think he'd be very happy about me doing that. Just leave things alone, you know. The more actually, the more you leave things alone, the more you see everything's working out fine. You know, everything's totally everything's totally fine. What I noticed, I didn't make him brush his teeth. His teeth look great. Okay. Maybe maybe if he ever does want to go to the dentist, then he might have to get some feelings or something. I don't know. He ever does want to go to the dentist. There's just there's just no need for being concerned about anything in ourselves of ourselves or anything that's going on because that's really a distraction. It takes our mind out of the decision that we have to make, and that's the decision between love and fear. That's the really the decision that we not only have to make, but we are making all the time. Like all the time, like every second we're making a decision between love and fear. And we're getting distracted away from our decision that we need to make with concern, okay, about how things are gonna go. How are how's our our investments doing? How's our how's our weight? You know, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01It's the innocence that everyone.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's the innocence everyone lost. So being concerned is being concerned and living in concern is being apart. It's kind of like being apart from your innocence. It's covering it up. It's saying, I cannot be like an innocent child right now. And that's why Jesus would say in the Bible, in the Bible, Jesus would say, You have to be like a little child to enter the kingdom of heaven. What he was talking about was innocence and enter the kingdom of heaven, that's right now. You can only do it right now, and you cannot do it while you're holding any kind of concern. See? So when you the more you let people be as they are and recognize concern one when it comes up in yourself, it's very common and so much, and so many people are just agreeing that we should be concerned. Okay, so my friend that my friend that was calling newsome newscom uh said that this is gonna be a challenge because she's got a handful of friends that all believe the same way that this guy's ruining their lives, that nothing's gonna get better until you know they're hoping that he gets assassinated or something. Just like a lot of people are hoping that Trump gets assassinated, they're hoping that something happens to him so that they don't have to suffer under his rule. And the thing about the people that we set up to reflect back to us our beliefs, we set that up, and it's not like we have to get into any arguments with them, it's not like that. It's just noticing within ourselves like, ah, it's okay. Let them be concerned, let other people be concerned. A lot of the times when people are hearing me talk, will hear me talking about stuff like this, they're thinking of it for other people. They're thinking of other people hearing what I'm saying and other people understanding what they're saying, what I'm saying, so they don't have to deal with their concern. Let other people be concerned, let other people and just let like look at it like this. Whoo, thank goodness I don't have to do that. Ah, thank goodness that's the demonstration, and then people will eventually come and ask you, What's your secret? Why are you so happy all the time?
SPEAKER_01I don't care that you're concerned.
SPEAKER_00I don't care that you're concerned. You're it's fine with yeah, it's fine with me if you're concerned. No, nothing's wrong with you, right? And you know, sometimes people will tell me they want to hear from me. They're like, I want to hear from you, and so then I'll say something to them. I'll go, that's concern, that's hurting your mind. And then if they reflect back to me, no, they're gonna keep this, then they're not gonna hear from me. Oh, okay, thanks for letting me know. And they're not gonna hear from me until it's guided again, and it doesn't get guided unless there's an opening, it doesn't become guided unless there's an opening. There has to be an opening in the mind where it's going, where it's like receptive. But if it's not the mind's not receptive, it's a person's mind's not receptive. The Holy Spirit wouldn't have you trying to break through their defenses for them. They have to let down their defenses themselves, they have to like relax their defenses first. I have had situations, you know, where I'll say something in a public in a public place, just like, you know, just being myself, and someone will just one of the people in the will just like get offended or something like that. That's a different kind of story, you know. Someone just randomly gets offended. Still, they needed to hear that. You know, it's not like you had it had a sense where you were trying to break down anything, break down any barriers. You're just expressing, right? But this where we're trying to, we get the sense that we're trying to trying to teach someone something. I've got to teach someone something, that's where we are engaging in concern over them, and that's still concern, and it's always self-concern, and it's always distracting our mind from the one choice between the two alternatives that we always have to make.
Inner Child Fixing And Happy Games
SPEAKER_00We're always making that choice, and it'll keep us happy just recognizing that we are making that choice, even if we seem to be making the wrong choice, it'll keep us happier recognizing that's all we're doing is making the choice. We don't need to try to correct anyone, we don't need to try to make someone right in our own minds. See it happens a lot with with partners, close partners, because it's as if our inner child needs healing, which is a common thing, where there where it's believed that our problem started with this inner child, where it felt like it needed some compassion and didn't get it, or it was guilted when it shouldn't when it should have been held. We believe that we secretly believe that we have a wounded inner child. So we secretly believe that we can fix that wounded inner inner child by fixing the people that are closest to us, and a lot of the times that's our partner. If it's not, it's friends. So it's constantly trying to help them to be helpful, and that's why where people get really confused is they're like, I was just I was just trying to be helpful, and they're acting like that. That's the ego trying to be helpful, they're acting like that because they feel you, they feel you trying to correct your inner child by changing them. If you weren't trying to do that, you could just be enjoying them. You can be enjoying all their ways, all their quirks, whatever it is. You could be making fun, you can be having fun with them. We're asked to undo this world by being like happy children, playing happy games. We're always playing games, they're just not always happy. A lot of the times they're they're they're mad games or mean games or victimized games. I had one friend who wanted to wanted to talk to me for a while, but he kept on playing this game like it was hard to talk to me. So I was like, Okay, that's cool. I'll watch, watch that, watch that play. And then, and then eventually I was like, hey, if you want to talk to me, here's the thing. I like to join with people in truth. I like to join in truth. I don't like to do fearful things or avoidance or inconsistency or stuff like that. I like to have like a relationship that's like joining in truth and being sweet to each other, consistently loving, stuff like that. I'll go, I'll know when the purpose of the relationship has changed. I'll know it. So then the next thing I know, we're on a phone call, and I'm like, Congratulations, congratulations, you got to talk to me, right? And I'm like, you know, we're meant to play happy games, and he's like, it's all games, isn't it? Yes, it's all games. We're just meant to be, we're meant to play happy games, we're not meant to be be afraid of each other, afraid of what's gonna come of our conversation. We could just be light and we could be happy. When we when we become afraid of each other, like you know, we have to make it heavy. This is what you did to me, this is what I did to you. No one did anything to anyone. That's what I see. No one, no one did anything to anyone. Trying to make it like someone did anything, keeping the past like that, it's it's hard. Of course, there's gonna seem like there's a there's trouble between us, but you know, it's like looking at it like, what am I making? Just look at it from your own perspective. What am I making this mean? What I'm perceiving, what I when I'm perceiving of the past, what I'm perceiving of the of this person, what am I making it mean right now? And how does it feel? And then we can just interact. We don't have to hold things, we don't have to try to correct people. We don't have to try to control how they're how they're acting. You know, I noticed that with my kids, you know, where there was a sense like I don't want this to get out to the public, I don't want them to say anything. I know that this is very common in my family, where my parents would say, Don't tell people, don't tell people this thing. Right? So I was like, I don't want to be like that. And I went through a period where I was, you know, I wanted to tell my kids, don't tell people about this. Something, whatever it was that went on in our household, it's not coming to mind right now. And I'd actually feel the fear of people knowing, and let myself feel the fear of people knowing without trying to control whatever someone says, you know, like don't tell that person this, don't tell them I said this, for instance. Right? Feeling the fear and letting that control mechanism just fall away, and recognizing we don't have to be afraid of anything, we don't have to be afraid of anyone's perception. That's another that's another area of concern, concern for our reputation. We don't have to be afraid of what an ever anyone's perception is. What if I'm recorded saying something that I didn't want other people to hear me saying? Great, because there's a sense of fear that my reputation, other people's perceptions of my image is gonna be disparaging. Great. Then I could feel that I could sense, get this, get that sense of fear, and that's where the undoing goes. See there's no reputation worth saving. That's another thing, that's another area of cons of concern that doesn't need to be. This just does not need to be. Go back to being like a newborn baby. Think about being like a newborn baby. You don't even know any of this kind of stuff. You don't even know any of this. You don't even care what you look like to other people, you don't even care what your what your mom is is is doing. It's like you don't you don't mind what's going on in the world, you don't mind if people are Satanists, you don't even know. That's the thing, that's what we have a benefit of. We're not like newborn babies in terms of we can perceive things that seem to be going on and we can actually use it to undo the thought of separation. Babies can't do that yet, right? Because they haven't developed the perceiving mechanism to the point where they can actually make an assessment in the world, and it seems like something where it seems like something is threatening, they can't do the forgiveness yet. So that's why there's a building of the ego. There's a period of building of the ego so you build this sense of concern, you build the sense of concern, so then you can use the concern for actually undoing the whole thought of separation. So it's like you it's like you start out as an innocent baby because you don't know about the world yet, right? That's what that's what I mean by that. We're all innocent, but you don't know about the world. Then you gain this knowledge about the world. The gaining the knowledge about the world is a good thing because then you can use that knowledge to undo the thought of separation that makes bodies in the first place, that makes death, that makes aging, sickness, conflict, all this stuff. So by gaining that knowledge, now you have something tangible that you could use to help undo the thought of separation. Basically, you know, you can bring on the salvation of the world this way by your knowing, apparently knowing stuff. You're not knowing anything, but that's what gives you something tangible that can be used for undoing the world. It's very useful. So it's not like something's wrong. It's not like something's wrong with it.
SPEAKER_01We want to seemingly know.
SPEAKER_00Get me some water and it's in the fridge. Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much. So once you have a sense of what the world is, that's where you can start learning. Actually, kids can start learning this too. Like in instead of going to school and being conditioned in the world, like how to do math and all that kind of stuff, that's fine. If kids learn how to undo the world, start undoing the world, they'd be very happy. They'd see how to be happy, they'd see how to use their knowledge, their concern over themselves, over other people, over the planet, things like that, to actually undo the thought of separation and be so much happier. And sometimes that happens like in a just in a subtle way. I noticed one of my sons seems to do it automatically without really knowing that he's even doing it, really undoing the world automatically without even recognizing it, because just the way he can come to a sense that there isn't anything to be concerned about so often. I see him doing that so often, just coming to peace with things and not even, you know, studying, having studied a Course in Miracles, in fact, making fun of me when I'm doing a Course in Miracles, but also being raised in the same household, you know, and so and so it's like this this energetic, it's all it's always like an energetic way that we're we're communicating with each other. So there's this energetic noticing, you know, he he mentioned to me the other day that he noticed how me and his dad stay calm about things, you know, we just stay calm about things. So he noticed that he can stay calm about things, and he notices that there's something different about him in that he can do that, he doesn't let things get in get become a big problem, and also doesn't get into victimization like other people do in the world.
Seeing Everything As Beneficial
SPEAKER_00So just our learning how to see things differently and how to undo the worldly drama, it automatically it's kind of like it's contagious. When people are around us, they start to see, oh, I don't have to, I don't have to worry about this. Everything's gonna work out, everything is working out, it's all working out in my favor. That's why I say it's the most beneficial. That's what I was I was talking with my with my friend who was concerned about what the governor of California is doing and saying that it's affecting her. And I go, you gotta be able to look at that at him and what he's doing as maximally beneficial for what you really want to do, and that's undoing the world. And she's like, How can I do that? And it's like, it's a choice you make, it's your mind. You're you make the choice that no matter what it is that you see, it's beneficial. That takes all the power away. That takes all the power away from everything. So if you watch the news, the news will tell you that certain things are dangerous, third certain things are threatening. And then if you recognize that the news is telling you that, trying to program you, all of a sudden the news becomes the danger. It becomes threatening. But if you look at all those things, all those things that the news is telling you that are threats and that are danger, and you go, that's the most beneficial. I'm so glad that I know that that's the it's not like I'm glad that's happening. It's not like that, but you're glad that you know that that's the most beneficial because you could use it right now for undoing the thought of separation. Even a thought it occurs to you that there's people being raped, there's people being raped right now, apparently. There's people being killed right now, tortured right now, apparently. The thought of that doesn't always cross your mind. But when it does cross your mind, that's an opportunity. See, it's not like, oh, I'm real glad people are getting raped right now, so I could have this opportunity. Okay, it's not like that. It's more like as soon as my mind goes to perceiving something like that, even if it's just a thought that crosses my mind, that's giving me an opportunity. I'm gonna take that as an opportunity. The thought crossing my mind that someone's being raped, for instance, is maximally beneficial because I can use it. Okay, the manifestation itself, it's a reflection of a sick mind. So it's not like I'm glad it's happening. I'm glad I know it's not really happening, it's actually a reflection of a sick mind. And you know, yes, the suffering seems very real in the moment, especially to the person that's being raped, the person that's being tortured, whatever, anything like that. Seems very real. So I want to help them. Right? I want to help them. I want to be the most helpful I can possibly be, the most helpful I can be is using the perception as a means for undoing. And to use the perception as a means for undoing, I need to see it as beneficial for that. If I'm not seeing it as beneficial for that, how can I use it? If it's not beneficial, if it's a threat, I can't use it. I'm not able to use it because I've already called it a threat, I've already made it real, I've already made someone into a victim. See what I'm saying? So anything and everything in the world is meant to be used for undoing the world. And it's tricky to an ego mind, not to you. You're you don't really, you know, you don't really have a problem with this. It's just identifying with an ego, it's as if you would be uncompassionate if you looked at everything as being beneficial. That's how that's what identifying with an ego does. It's an identifying with ego thoughts. It would say, no, you have to be angry about this. How will your anger help help them though? How will that help them? If it's if it's all emotion, if it's all caused by emotion, how will your anger about it help them? No, it's your peace that helps. It's your peace that helps them. So this is how it looks when you get a perception of something you don't like, okay, war, rape, torture, any of those kinds of things. And it could be just concern for a friend. Concern that a friend needs to go in and have their mind checked, their brain checked, or whatever. Could just be that. Any of those kinds of things. This is an opportunity for you to see that there's no cause for concern, there's no justification, there's no true justification for concern. Concern says that it's not beneficial, that the perception you're having is not beneficial, but it is because of what it's reflecting. And so are your feelings. Your feelings are also beneficial. One friend came up came up to me yesterday after I gave a talk over at Hawaiian Sanctuary. By the way, that'll be posted pretty soon. The half hour talk was really fun. It'll be posted, I don't know, maybe by next week sometime. Anyways, a friend came up to me and she said, that was a really good talk. I really enjoyed that talk. And I'm like, oh, that's awesome. I go, I remember you coming in 2014 to my talks. And she goes, she goes, yeah, something you said back then really triggered me. And I and I didn't come back anymore. She said that you were saying that emotions don't matter, the feelings don't matter, and they really do, they really do matter. And I go, yeah, I I agree with you. And I think back then I just didn't know how to articulate it very well, you know. And now I have 12 more years under my belt, I can articulate it better. But you know, I I know even from back then, I was going, they don't mean what you think they mean, you know, your feelings, they don't they don't say anything that's true, they're not saying anything that's true. So so it's like back then I was trying to articulate that that when we get a feel when you get an upset feeling, it doesn't mean anything about the world. It doesn't really mean anything about the world, and that's the that's still true, that still holds. It doesn't say anything about the world, it says something about your mind. It says that you need a correction, your mind needs a correction. And you know, over the years, and who knows, she probably hears it different now, too, because it's been 12 years ago since that, and she probably hears it different too. That yes, we get these feelings, and yes, they are ultimately important. It's good to know how we feel because if we feel anything less than grateful, which concern is one of them, when we feel concerned, for instance, it's a sign that our mind needs a correction, and it could have a correction if we're willing to be corrected. The thing is, we're usually unwilling, not usually, when we're not practiced. The common way is to be unwilling to have a correction. So when the when there's an upset feeling, what the ego will say is something's wrong with the world or something's wrong with me. Nothing's wrong with you, nothing's wrong with another person, nothing's wrong with the world. All it's saying is your mind needs a correction. That's all an upset feeling ever says. So now it's what it's like really clear that that's what it is, that's what it means. So so my friend earlier today, who got the sense of concern about other friends and said that it was a good thing, you know, it was a good thing to have concerned over friends, is thinking that because he has this concern, it means that he needs to do something, it means that there's something for him to do, and that's why it's stressful because it because it's taking a feeling and saying it means something about myself, something's wrong with me, something's wrong with another person, and that's stressful, that's just really
Emotions As Signals For Correction
SPEAKER_00stressful. But when you see that there's the upset feeling only means that your mind needs to be corrected and you can receive the peace of God right now, then it takes on a whole different thing. That's why for me, like when I get a sense of concern earlier today, when I was I was just starting block therapy, ah, so relaxing. All of a sudden a thought creeps in and it says, What about that phone thing? You know, what about that phone thing? And immediately I could just see that's a concern that doesn't mean anything. But the feeling is important to know that there's a feeling that's less than grateful, okay, that my mind needs a correction. It's just like boom, boom, and it's gone immediately. And it doesn't even come back around, it just stays gone, you know. But that's that's from practice when you're first doing this, and maybe over time, maybe over you know, some years it could be that it'll just keep on coming back, and you just keep on looking at this at the same way. The mind just needs to be corrected here. Nothing needs to change in the field. You know, I could go on paying for two phone bills and only have one phone the whole time, and it'll still be the same, it'll still be the same situation, nothing needs to change, and and that's how you're able to just return and be and and stay in peace. But it was funny how it was like just before that, a friend was a friend was telling me how it's important to have concern, how important it is to have concern, and how it's like working a muscle. It's kind of like if you're doing squats, he even demonstrated to me. It's like it's like you're doing squats. And you know, it's hard and it's stressful, but it builds your muscles. And it's like, no, it's not like doing squats, but I just thanked him. I didn't have a conversation about that. But it's like, no, it's not like that. You're building them, you're actually building a muscle that says concern is good, and you keep on going down that road, and you never get the release. And that's what I see too, and in this friend, and he would even admit, too, his mind is wild. You know, it's kind of like this frantic mind, this scattered frantic way of being that comes from repeatedly justifying concern. So it just becomes more and more frantic. So then I see a couple minutes after that, concern arise in my own mind, and I'm like, oh, I know it. I know what that is for. And even the temptation to become concerned over him. So so it I saw, then I saw him a couple hours later, and he actually asked me, Am I okay? I go, You're great, you're perfect just as you are. You know, a few hours before that, there was like all this certainty that I'm concerned and it's right. And then a few hours later it was like asking me, Am I okay? I'm like, Yes, you're you're perfect. No need to be concerned over yourself. Unless you want to. I'll let you. And it's always only a thought that's making me unhappy. And any thought that's making me unhappy is something I don't need to keep. That's why, if you're aware of feelings, if you're aware of how you feel, anything that you don't like is something you don't have to keep because there's no things in the field, there's no things in the field, there's nothing here. So it's a thought that's projecting a feeling, and so that means whatever you don't like is something you don't have to keep. You don't have to keep doing that, you don't have to keep that thought, and then you can be liking everything because it's only your thoughts. You can even like what you seem to dislike in the field. What you seem to dislike in the field actually becomes likable. It's likable that you dislike it because it's only in the field. See, and when you know that when you know that your dislike in the field isn't causing you to feel anything, then you can enjoy that apparent dislike in the field. Because it's like, you know, it's kind of like I like uh I like I like meat and I don't like peas, for instance. I like that I don't like peas. I like that I like meat. It just doesn't matter. Those two things, they're they're this, they're the same to me. But the sense that something is threatening to you, that's a different kind of not liking something, isn't it? It's a it's as if something is wrong. That's a different kind. Don't like a certain personality, you know. You may seem to not like a certain personality. I love it when I seem to not like a certain personality. I don't feel like I need to push that personality away. It's fun for me because it's like seeing that that personality is actually coming from me. It's an aspect of myself that I seem to not like, and I can I can get a feeling that I don't like it without trying to change it, and without trying to push it away. It's like, oh, what fun! I feel annoyed, for instance. I don't have to keep that. It's a thought about the personality, it's not the personality itself, it's a thought about the personality that would make me feel annoyed. It's not the person themselves, it's not them. So when I see that it's not them, I can play with them, and the sense of annoyance seems to not come around very often at all because of the willingness to play like that, to the willingness to see that it's an aspect of myself that I'm holding a thought about like something's wrong with it. So letting that's another thing about letting people be themselves and not being concerned like they have to fix themselves, you know. Like if you could only be less like this. I told one of my friends yesterday, I go, you know, you're kind of bitchy. She's like, Yeah, and I go, I like that. She's like, thank you for liking that about me. Most people seem like they don't like that about you. I like that. No, it's so endearing. I like it. You know, and it's like you can see these little things that you uh you have, you know, seen as a problem before, becoming like, oh, that's endearing. You're kind of bitchy. She's like, Yeah, I'm I'm I'm an entitled queen. And I'm like, Yes, I see that about you. Okay, I seem to not like my personality quite often. Okay, so this is a person saying they don't like their own personality. I hear you. You know, from time to time I get that about myself too, and and that's also that's also one of those things. Like, you don't have to keep that thought about your personality. That's the thing. You don't have to keep that thought about your personality. Look at it this way: your personality is most beneficial for awakening your mind, it should be exactly the way it is. You know, sometimes I'll find myself saying something and I'll go, why did I fucking say that? Right? Why did I? And that's the opportunity right there. It's not me trying to fix myself, it's not me trying to make myself any better, but that is the actual opportunity. That's why I find myself liking myself and other people so much because I'll use that opportunity. It's rare that this happens because I've used that as an opportunity a lot. So it's rare that it'll come up. I noticed it, I noticed it yesterday. I noticed it come up yesterday when someone came up to me and they're like, you know, I was dancing wild at the drum circle. I was having such a good time. I was such a good dance. This woman came up to me and she was like bowing to me, like bowing to me, like she was like, Oh my god, your energy and your dance. Oh my goodness. She's like, I'm so glad to see you. She's seen me before. I'm so glad to see that you still have all this energy. I'm so glad you're just you're doing it like this. And your shoes, like, your shoes are great. Your shoes are perfect for this. They're just perfect for this. She's like, I gotta get on Amazon and get some shoes. And I go, No, it's not from they're not from Amazon, they're from Etsy. And then she's like, Oh, Etsy, okay. And she goes, So I just go on Etsy and I go, and I go, Yeah, look for barefoot shoes. And she goes, Okay, maybe I'll remember that. And then I just felt like I gave way too much information, like more than she can handle. They're they're this kind of shoe, they're like this. Don't do this one. Get From here, it's from Turkey. Sometimes I just like get you know, and and I got the sense. Why'd I just tell her all that shit? Like I ruined the whole conversation, you know? And that's the opportunity. That is really it. That's where it is. Because then immediately, like, I get a sense that something's wrong. There's concern. Did I just like cope? Did she just walk away fucking confused? Like how she's even gonna find these shoes, you know? And that's the opportunity. That's where I just come back to the peace. You know, don't let yourself, don't let yourself leave a situation without without being in peace. You know what I mean? Like by leave a situation, it's like the situation that's occurring to you that's saying, you said it wrong. You said too much. You know, you kind of like ruin the spirit of the conversation by making it about the shoes, which isn't true. Shan's shaking her head at me. She's like, where are you fucking getting this? Exactly. It's crazy. That's what I'm saying. But that's why, that's why something like that, not something like that barely occurs to me anymore, because I'm willing to bring it to the truth right away. Whatever I said was maximally beneficial, right? So then I'm at peace. Whatever she thinks about it, and however she takes it, and whatever happens with it, maximally beneficial, right? They are great shoes for dancing, by the way. The soul is totally flexible, and I can feel the ground through them while I'm dancing without getting my feet all messed up, apparently. Yeah. So so that's so that's how you address, you know, not like you're saying you don't like your personality quite often. That's because you've let the let that get away, kind of like these unconscious, unwatched thoughts get away so many times over and over again, not liking how you've been in an interaction. So that not liking how you've been, it's not like it's not like you reject the not liking, you embrace the not liking, but notice it has no justification because however you've been is always a hundred percent helpful. It's helping to to undo the thought of separation when you see it that way, you can use it that way. And just your willingness to see that however you have been and however anyone else is, they're always helpful. Even every circumstance is always totally helpful for this, and really it's the seeing that changes everything. It's not really changing anything on the screen. Your personality is also on the screen, okay? So it might manifest as something that you seem to not like. Maybe other people even seem to not like your personality, and you just always be willing to see how it's helpful all the time, how it's always helpful, even when you're trying to do concern and be helpful in an unhelpful way. It's always helpful to your seeing. Do you see that? And so, so even when, like I'm saying, you know, concern over your friends isn't helpful, concern over your spouse or your kids, or anything like that, isn't helpful because it hurts your mind. However, you are, even if you're expressing your concern, it's a hundred percent helpful because it's helping you to see. That because of that, it's helping you to see. So it's not justified for you to project as if something that you've done, something that you've been, has been wrong. It has not been wrong. It's just been, you can see when it's been hurting your mind. That is not wrong, it's not because it doesn't really do anything. Yeah, all it does is keep illusions, keep illusions projecting, but it only does that for you to see, and that's why it's helpful. The seeing, because it's for you to see, because it's a means for you to see, that's why it's ultimately helpful. So you come into that that awareness that it's ultimately helpful for you to see. You know, once you see it and you're willing to stop doing it, you just you're not doing it in that moment. That's why it's helpful. All right. A lot of the times these words are are only pointers and they're twice removed from reality. So we're using words to point to things, and you know, I'm saying that's not helpful because it hurts your mind, but also you're always a hundred percent helpful because all these things are leading to you seeing who you are and knowing who you are, and that's why you're always perfect, you're always being helpful. It's because of where everything is leading. It's not helpful in terms of, you know, if you think it's gonna make your relationships more harmonious, it's not. That's what I mean by it's not helpful, it's not gonna make your relations more harmonious, it's not gonna make you feel more peaceful, but it is helpful in that it's leading to, it's all leading to you seeing the truth and undoing the thought of separation ultimately. When you'll see it like that, you can actually use it like that.
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