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There is a lot going on in the world of golf and Art Stricklin and Randy Weckerly share their collective 90 years of golf history and perspectives pertaining to the world of golf.
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SPEAKER_02It is Monday after the Big John Deere Classic, and it is a great day in the world of golf. And this is our second half of the year beginning to golfers, golf, and travel, our inaugural show leading up to whoever would have thought, the PGA show in 2027. That's it. And the PGA show coming to uh your area of the woods down there in Dallas, Texas. And with me is my sidekick partner of decades, Art Strickland. How are you doing, Art?
SPEAKER_00Hey, always good to be with you, Randy. It's uh a sunny Monday here in Dallas, but uh out here in air conditioned comfort and not playing golf in 98 degrees. That's okay.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'll tell you what, last week uh down at the John Deere and went down there on Tuesday, and of course you knew that big hate heat wave was hitting everywhere. Well, I swear the John Deere was center focus. It was uh exhausting. There was you could find a seat anywhere uh to watch that. Um but it cooled off by the weekend. Big storms went through and uh learned a lot at that tournament. I I really uh everybody uh knows maybe Art, but he's uh are you president or former president of Texas Golf Rider Association at this point in time? Uh president, president, the president, the leader, the guru, uh man of many books, and uh he is a uh gentleman that uh is actually was uh in the contention for the Pulitzer Prize on some other things. We're gonna get into that. We're gonna have a show just about art circling, but he also is in charge of the art of golf travel. And uh so what's going on? Let's get to the art of golf travel just briefly. Are you just getting back from a trip or what's going on with that?
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah, we've uh we had a couple of trips. We were uh up in uh uh Colorado a couple weeks ago and uh saw the new uh Children's Hall golf course, which is spectacular, Neil Hans uh uh Tom Doak course, and further proof that uh you can build a course anywhere and make it look great if you've got the right architect. I mean, proving that abandoned dunes, proven that in Sand Valley, where you are, and I think uh proven that at uh Childress Hall in uh remote Childress, Texas. So did that, did Colorado Golf Club, New Rodeo Dunes, Dream Golf Course. So um all good, all all good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So what do you have on the calendar for your trips? Because art lines up exquisite trips all over the world.
SPEAKER_00What's upcoming in your uh we were we are going in two weeks, actually, uh two weeks from tomorrow, the 21st to the 25th of uh uh July. We're going to Nova Scotia, Halifax, Nova Scotia, and then we're going up to the spectacular um you know resorts up there, Fox Harbor, and um, you know, all the great places. We're going to PEI, Links at Crowbrush Cove, and so you know, we're going um Cabot Links, Cabot Dune. So doing that, getting out of the Texas heat. And then in uh August, we're doing kind of a a fun trip, kind of an informal trip, but fun. We're going to San Diego. And uh no better place to spend August than San Diego for sure. Uh that is uh August 19th through the 21st, Randy. And actually, we still have a couple spots open. So somebody watching, listening says, hey, uh Tory Pines or Tiger and John Ron both conquered. We're playing at Aviara, LPA venue playing at Omni Walcasta and staying omnialcasta. So a couple spots left for that. You need more details, www.t-h e artifgolf.com. It's got all the details.
SPEAKER_02That's fantastic. We also uh have that up on our um Shop My Account as a link right to his website. And once you go there, uh it's uh if you need that link, oh that's right, people need a link from me because what happens is that uh we have some special things we do for people that go through our account. And we don't gather your information, it goes directly to Art's website. It's really pretty cool. Now, do you always take that trip? The one thing that everybody always asks me, do you always have that annual trip going to the masters? Is that something that you do every year?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh absolutely. Yeah, we've got the annual last year, I think I told you, took 14 people to the masters, all-time record, and uh 10 first timers, so pretty awesome. Kid in the candy stores. And uh, and so we're doing that masters this year. Probably should know. People always ask me how soon they should plan on the masters. Probably by end of the month, first of uh August, we should know about how many tickets are gonna be available, badges, they call them. So um, yeah, we'll do that. We've got the house already lined up, of course, and uh so should be fun. Great time of the Masters. We're uh playing at the site of the PGA Championship 2027 omnip a Frisco, which is where the Summer Goth Show will be in a couple weeks, but we're actually playing there on um September. We're gonna play there in September. So good good stuff all the way around.
SPEAKER_02Well, Art, uh again, we're gonna be uh spreading the word art and I have known each other for about 15 decades. Um, right, uh we both celebrated the the 10-year anniversary of the United States of America, but uh not true. Uh anyway, uh art is and I have been uh uh doing shows one or another, but art now is a formal um uh part of golfers, golf and travel. Also a uh uh contributor to our magazine, which he did. If you want to see that um magazine, you can go to our websites. Uh it's all linked out there. We've got another summer, well, we're gonna call it uh midsummer, early fall magazine coming out toward the end of July, middle of August. And I'm sure Art's gonna have some articles and uh visionary moments in the uh in our golfers, golf and travel magazine. So, all of that being said, I want to get to uh this past week, I spent the majority of the week down at the John Deere. And uh, you know, the headline is uh a couple weeks ago, uh Brian Rolap, being the new CEO for the PGA tour, has decided there's gonna be a uh third rail, a middle rail, if you want to call it that, of uh the PGA having two divisions in what 2028, 28. Yeah, formally. So there's been conjecture about uh you know elevated events and lower rung events, and the guys that play in the elevated events can't play in the lower rung events, and like Scotty Scheffler, you know, the events that he cut his teeth on there in Texas, he potentially wouldn't be allowed to play in. Well, to be more pointed about that, I spent virtually every day from Tuesday through Sunday at the John Deere, and they have one of the most dedicated group of people from even the people how they treat people down there is incredible. The people that show up down there is incredible. I went down there really to cover the tournament, but expecting that, well, you know, this tournament's been sort of little, they probably should move it to Chicago, and walked away thinking absolutely the opposite. That tournament should stay down there in the Quad Cities. Uh, Chris Goddard that won the tournament. Uh his story is he wrote to get a sponsor's exemption four years ago. At the time, his letter said, you know, I'll do anything, just let me in, I'll I'll do you know outings for you, I'll do kids' camps, I just need to play in your tournament. And they did. And he ends up winning now, tearfully. I was right next to him, he and his brother, and when they uh uh ball went in the water, you know, it wasn't his ball at the end. But uh, what do you think of that tournament? What do you think of everything that's going on in golf right now?
SPEAKER_00Well, uh, you make a very good example. I I see the Quad Cities, uh, John Deere, I see that as the Green Bay Packers to the PJ. We're not moving the Green Bay Packers out of Green Bay and moving them to Nashville or something, because Nashville's a bigger town and has more airports, and you know, and Green Bay is only 100,000 people. I mean, the Packers are synonymous because so why would you move um why would you want to move Quad Cities, you know, John Deere to Chicago? Uh it just and somebody made a really good point that I had not thought of. Um they Wibgoth tried to go to big cities in America. They tried to go to uh New Orleans, Dallas, Nashville, uh they went to Chicago outside of Chicago, and Webgolf really had no uh real luck going to big cities because you know, people got a lot of stuff to do, but you come to dedicated communities, which obviously John Deere is, and so really interesting what's gonna happen. You mentioned the Dallas tournaments. We just got finished with the Byron Nelson and Colonial. Um you know, it seems uh unlikely that both of those are gonna be Tier One tournaments, I think they're calling them now. So, uh, but you know, people who have supported tournaments for decades, you're gonna all of a sudden get rid of them? It just didn't make sense to me.
SPEAKER_02No, and how many billions of dollars has been raised by PGA tour events over the years? Nearly what, $3 billion at this point in time. The John Deere has contributed well over $200 million, one of the leading uh you know raisers of money for charity. Uh, and I think that sometimes has been forgotten for this dash for money on the uh because of Live, uh, that the money that's being raised in the communities. Um, but down there, the woman that drove us, they had the media parking lot. It was about a five-minute drive, but they have brand new Lexuses for us, pull in, and um a woman by the name of Mother Quinn uh drove us yesterday from the course back to our car. And if you heard her story and her husband's story, that have been part of just parking cars, transporting players, caddies, media people, um, and even different patrons and such to the places the for over 15 years, and you and they just fight to be that contributor to the event. They have they have golf carts running all over. If you need a cart, you just you you put I don't care if you're just there to be an attendee. If you want something, put your hand up. Somebody comes over and says, What can I do for you? I've never seen that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly. That and that's for what a local tournament, you know. I I don't know a lot of people may not know. The Byron Nelson tournament is run by the salesmanship club. And basically, salesmanship club or CEOs or C-level uh uh people in Dallas companies, North Texas companies. So, but you're right. I mean, these guys are the CEO of XYZ company, they're the they're the guys chief Jurassic Surgeon at Parkland Hospital. But for one week, you put your hand up and they're like, how can we help you? Yeah, and because they are dedicated to their cause. And that's the same way as and so do we really need to get rid of that on the PJ tour? I don't think so. The other thing is, is the whole and you know, I've not heard this explained, but are you telling me that if Scotty Sheffield, who grew up going to the Byron Elson and uh Byron Elson's not a tier one tournament, and you're telling Scotty Sheffer can't point his hometown event? That's crazy. So I I I just the whole thing is baffling to me. I I don't know why. I mean, I realize that Roof comes from the NFL and he wants to uh do the NFL mindset. Yeah, but you know, what's wrong with uh doing things that have been successful in the past and the whole thing on charity, you know, uh, I think that gets forgotten. That uh, you know, all these places raise money for charity. And this guy, the Byron Nelson told me, and their charity is a salesmanship club that that works with uh outrisk youth in the North Texas area. And you know this guy told me he said, a lot of places raise money for charity. We raise money for our charity, and that makes a huge difference because we're raising money for things that we are have a personal stake in. So a lot to be determined, you know, right now with BGH, just don't know what's gonna happen. But why get rid of things that have been successful like John Deere? And obviously, John Deere puts a lot of money into it. They've got money and they, you know, they put money into it. Um you know, the Byron Nelson is the CJ Corporation, which is the largest business conglomerate in Korea. Wow. And uh um, you know, and so the chairman of the CJ Corporation was there, and you know, they're basically the General Motors of Korea, I guess is the best way to put it. Or they do a ton of stuff, but they've signed a 10-year contract. So you're really gonna tell somebody that's the leading company in Korea with a 10-year contract to take a hike? We don't need you any longer? I don't think so. You know, John Deere, I'm sorry, you guys are great, but you know, get lost because we're good. I none of that makes sense to me, Randy.
SPEAKER_02I don't understand with the way golf right now is, you know, the ratings are great, you know, the visibility is great. And really what's happening, um, and again, I'm gonna take a little credit for this, after COVID, uh, where all the the everybody got into golf that wasn't into golf, they're now looking around and knowing that uh hitting balls into simulators and outdoor places with nets, just leave the name off of that. They thought, hey, you know what, there's actually local courses we can go play. So the number of rounds being played right now, uh, even in my own park district course out in my backyard, you can't find a tea time. It used to be I could go pay an annual fee, grab my bag, go out at night, go play. Nope, not today. They got tea times up to like 620 or whatever it is. And you sit there and why screw with it. And Brian Rolap, coming from football, doesn't really, I don't think. I mean, he said in past he was talking about playing the 17th hole, the iconic 17th hole at the players, and I think he got it on the green or whatever it was, and he said, That's it, my career's over. You know, he's he's a marketing guy, appreciate that. But this whole now, on one end, adding a second layer or another, let's say, 150 guys to the world of golf, because there's so many great players from you know Cornferry to the PGA Tour. You could add another layer of 200 guys in the middle, you know, and and watch some great golf. Um I I want to go on to another subject during the press conferences earlier last week. Your uh your great friend, um, greatest golfer, you know, in the past, and now trying to find his wings again, but wonderful human being. Jordan Spieth had a very, very interesting press conference, and an item came out that I really wanted to share with you because he came out and to paraphrase, he said this whole you know, outrageous contact conduct at tournaments really has to go away. But he said that golf is the only sport where gambling could be affected by somebody shouting and somebody's backswing. And the example he gave is you could take you know, Art Strickland versus the field to win on Sunday, okay, whatever that case might be. And you might have 10,000 to one on the field, and you could then, as a person that has that bet, when Art goes on a bat backswing on the final hole or the final shot going into the 18th hole at the John Deere, yell in the middle of his backswing and affect his swing, but also affect the gambling. Yeah, the outcome.
SPEAKER_00I think that's true.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and uh yeah. Did you did you listen to that quote? Were you aware of that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I did. And then they brought up Wyndham Quark to ask him why did Wyndham Quark get so much abuse at Shinnock uh during the open. And he said uh a lot of it was gambling, a lot of people had money on Scotty or had money on Warrior or had money on something else. So yeah, I I think that's true. That that is the danger of gambling, and you know, uh you don't have to look at golf, look at any sport that uh is really just uh cover that. But you know, golf is always compelling, and I I think, you know, this is why you know I felt sorry for Ben Knowles on 18 that only needed a party getting a playoff party to win, hicks this ball in the water. But that's what makes golf so compelling, because you just don't ever know. I mean, if you had said, you know, he's in the middle of the 18th fairway, hey, I'll give you five to one odds that uh he hooks in the water. Well, nobody's thinking that. That he's gonna aim way right and curve it in, but that's the way it is. You know, Phil at at Wingfoot with a two-shot weed at the US Open. John Vanderbilt was a three-shot weed at 18, Carnisty. I mean, and that's and to me, that's what makes golf so compelling. You just don't ever know. Well, you don't think our game, you don't know with their game, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they I just saw, I mean, I could give you we all could. I mean, I somebody it just hit my Facebook, the replay of Jack and my good friend Doug Sanders, you know, winning way back when. The whole thing hit Facebook, and I sat and I looked at that. Or you could think of the shots when Jack won in '86, the Greg Norman flew into the crowd and Sevy on 15. You know, there's always our Scott Hoke and in the Masters, and you know, you can go back. Scott, it's just golf is just a a mind-numbing game.
SPEAKER_00And uh no doubt. Yeah, no doubt.
SPEAKER_02So we had we had something just as an aside. So we went and uh Joanne and I went and spent yesterday, Sunday, on the ninth hole, watch everybody play through. Met a uh we were at the John Deere employee that asked us to come in and sit in their their facility. It was really nice, some nice shaded. But we were sitting at a round uh table outside um that had an umbrella cover on it, talking to a nice grandma and her son sitting next to us. And I and all of a sudden I hear an explosion. Bam! It's just like an explosion went off. What happened was Max Homa hit a ball left, which would be in what we would be called the crowd. It bounced off the glass table that we were sitting at, and between the grandma and the son bounding into the woods.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_0250 yards away, one hop, dash, and you talk about the good lord looking over us on that. I mean, it could have hit anybody in the face, it could have hit a rebound, it could have shattered the table. It went, it hit on that table like a cannon went off. Um, they found the ball, gave him a drop. Max had a drop, terrible drop, duffed it short of the green. Of course, he's in contention. Now he's coming up, playing well. Hits it short of the green, in some more long grass, and then chips it in the hole for his par.
SPEAKER_00Well, how good those guys are.
SPEAKER_02Professional. Well, watch if you want to go watch short game, go to a hole like that because that was it was great. But here's what happened. Uh, because I was in media, I did an immediate, I'm gonna put it up today, interview of this little young man who, you know, he's like a 13, 14 year old kid, maybe that age, maybe younger. That just happened. And I went over. Max was standing right there after finish his hole, talking to security right at the edge, and I said, Hey, I said, That ball hit a glass table over here. And it was pretty interesting what happened to the ball. Well, the the the gendarmes had it in his pocket and called the kid up, gave it to him, and then Max said, Hey, have the have the young man come to me in the autograph session, and you know, at the end of the day he's gonna autograph the ball and take some pictures. So the point of that whole thing is how wonderful these guys are to take time. They understand, you know, Max did, you know, it made that kid's day. I wrote to the grandma today and I said, Did your grandson have a great day? And she wrote back this glowing email, you know, well, you know, so I I know you never hit your ball off course at all. Sure. Art, you know, you're you're spot on all the way. So what's going on in the world of art uh today, this week? What are you doing this week for excitement?
SPEAKER_00Uh actually uh not a lot of excitement. Just uh working here at the house. God, you know, when you travel with somebody's idea, you gotta have a couple of days just uh refocus and get everything ready. But uh like I said we got a couple weeks going to Canada, so working on that. And uh Canada trip three great venues, going to Fox Harbor, uh, which is right in the middle of Nova Scotia, going to Lynx and Crowbus Code, which golf guy just named the best new course in America, North America when it opened a few years ago. And then we've got uh we're going up to Campa Links Campa Dunes, which is the hottest new golf resort in America in America or North America. So um, yeah, it's gonna be a great trip. Let's get ready for that. Like in San Diego's coming up in uh August. So we're gonna do San Diego, then we've got northern Michigan, got a couple of spots. You wanna go up to cool rainy territory? We're going up to trees treetops. Uh going up to treetops, all those places. So it's all good.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm leaving tomorrow. Um my annual trip up to Lake Superior to our partner's cabin. We're gonna do our through Wisconsin our new magazine coming out, just a little heads up. We are featuring the tri-state area of Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin that is get this art, the most condensed area in the world for golf courses, for uh major tournaments, and guys that play golf. Uh uh the statistic uh goes back to I said to somebody, one of my friends, uh, I don't know about a month ago, I said, you know, back in the early um 2000s, the statistic at the PGA show was that 80% of all the golf uh uh merchandise was bought within 800 miles of Dayton, Ohio. Whoever came up with that statistic. Okay. Well, I said, I wonder if that statistic still is uh viable. So I did the research and all of a sudden I realized, yeah, there's uh 2,000 golf courses, the most dense population of golfers. So our new magazine coming out is going to be focused on those three uh those three uh states. So I know that you've played a lot in Wisconsin. Uh you and I enjoyed gaining weight at the U.S. Open up there uh at the uh not so uh wonderful U.S. Open held. I I was telling the people at uh the media center that that story about I gained 13 pounds in one week by sitting in the media center at the U.S. Open. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was disgusting. But we have uh well, and then you've got are you gonna go to the PGA show in uh the end of July? Do you end up going? Yeah, yeah, I will. In fact, maybe we'll do a show from there. You know, maybe we're talking about actually coming down. I have contacted, written to every one of those uh people gonna be at the uh uh distributors or people that are exhibitors. I have written to them within the last thirty days that one way or another we're gonna try to connect with them, either you know, through attending or whatever. So yeah, we'll do a show from there or we'll do it together or whatever.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, we'll have dinner, we'll get a little Texas barbecue and it's uh it'll be a good time, but you know, the product cycles change usually by January when the Orlando show is. Most people bought their stuff for the yeah, so this is so July is really an important show because it got the people going. What are we gonna have for 27? A lot of stuff out there, PGA obviously a lot of fun. So yeah, come on, that'll be fun.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the show is really interesting. I was looking at the exhibitors and it does look like an interesting show. Of course, you're gonna have a lot of your apparel like for you know, heads up for people. Why is it this year? You got your if you want new things coming to your pro shop, they gotta order them ahead of January. The pro shops are unboxing their their goods and they have to go to a they they figured this out, they have to go order them for this show in uh in July to get those new goods out. So it's it's great. And anyway, Art, look forward to doing this, you know, right now, once a week, maybe as we go forward, uh there's gonna be some some things come up. If I find out where art is traveling, I'll track him down.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. Well we'll go there. Look forward to walking you to Frisco. Always a good time.
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, art always has a good time to go to the PGA show because somehow the last night we're there, I get talked into going out to Benny Hanna, and this year he keeps telling me he has a birthday that week.
SPEAKER_00And I was your place, yeah. Your place. So this year we're gonna do some Texas barbecue. We don't need Benny Hana. We got Texas barbecue and come down.
SPEAKER_02I'm all I'm all good with that. With my good friend uh uh up and down up in uh Houston, we always um yeah, yeah, we always have found time to have a little barbecue.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02All right, we'll look forward to it, Randy. Hey, art Art Strickland, the Art of Golf Travel, go to the Artofgolftravel.com, sign up for his trips, get in there, uh bug him about that master's trip. You want to get on that list. We're gonna have more information.
SPEAKER_00If you need a San Diego, come on to northern Michigan. Those are two great summer fall trips we've got coming up.
SPEAKER_02Well, you gotta go and you wanna see art in person, uh join one of the trips, have a lot of fun. I recommend it highly. I've been doing it for years. Anyway, for art, this is old Uncle Randy, and as I always say, leave a better footprint, because my grandfather said he must be right. You always want to leave it better than how you find it. Talk to you soon. Bye, Art.
SPEAKER_00Thanks, buddy.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, my friend. Talk to you later. Bye-bye. Well, thank you everybody for making your way here to the Matrix. And this is where we always show behind the scenes what's going on and what we see that uh we think that you're gonna be really, really interested in uh enjoying as we go forward with our telecast. Now, since you're here, uh we're also gonna have some of our sponsors in the upcoming weeks bring over specials that you'll be able to get in the Art of Golf Travel uh that if you've watched the show that you're coming here today from, you're gonna know that art is going to have trips all over the world, including going to the Masters. And going to the Masters, we're gonna have some opportunities as year goes forward, as you heard during the show, of joining us at the Masters that art has taken groups to through the Art of Golf Travel for years. But today I wanted to share with you something that happened yesterday that I have never seen in my 45 years. Uh, going to golf tournaments, playing golf tournaments, attending broadcasting, being part of uh anything. We were sitting at the ninth hole on Sunday at the John Deere Classic. Uh it was uh we had a broadcast team there. We're sitting in the John Deere, um I guess you call it their employee section. Great people. Can't say enough about the John Deere Classic and the people that run it. Having an enjoyable day, and sitting next to me, somebody I didn't know, he's you know, he just say, Who are you and what do you do in life? And it was the sweetest grandma in the world that brought her grandson to the tournament. And I will tell you when you see this video and this young lad story.
SPEAKER_03There was never a boy that I had. Ask with a good hope after that's where it's got. It ain't about pushing a power. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER_05Bye-bye.
SPEAKER_02Alright, well, we're sitting here on the ninth hole at the John Deere Classic, and uh got a good friend sitting next to us with a good story. Again, what's your name?
SPEAKER_07Max.
SPEAKER_02Max, what's your last name?
SPEAKER_07Berta.
SPEAKER_02Berta. Okay, yeah, and I'm old uncle Randy with golfers, golf, and travel. And uh we're sitting in the John Deere booth outside watching what's happening. Uh we were having a conversation about the good lord looking over us, right?
SPEAKER_06And you are okay, and all of a sudden an explosion went off.
SPEAKER_02Show us on the table where that ball hit.
SPEAKER_06Right around here.
SPEAKER_02Right there, exactly, and it bounded way in the back, right? So anyway, is it scary or is that the things that just happened to you in life are like that, right? Our company has a model that says all the good things in life, and we're sort of face-face, and your grandma and I were talking about the good Lord looking over us. That one between you and your grandma was about a foot and a half separation. Right? And it went off like an explosion.
SPEAKER_01Where did you get that ball first?
SPEAKER_02Right in the hole. So he was aiming at the flag. Anyway, then at the end of the hole, he went over and uh got his ball. You're gonna go get his autograph on, but you can't do it during that round. Then I'd go get my autograph. I'm sure he'll remember it.
SPEAKER_07Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like the John Deer. You wanted to stay here?
SPEAKER_03You want it to do that?
SPEAKER_02Anyway, thank you so much for being on the old segment and uh all the good things.
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