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<v SPEAKER_00>Welcome to the MetaCurch Podcast.

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<v SPEAKER_00>My name's Clayton.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm the pastor here at MetaChurch.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And my hope is that today's podcast finds you at the perfect time in your life that God uses it to inspire and enlighten you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I hope that you enjoy today's message.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The last year and a half, we have all been through some hard times, but you are at the right place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is a movement that knows that God can take our painful season and use them for our purpose and to push us forward in what He has for us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's so good to see you guys here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you're new with us, my name is Clayton.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm the lead pastor here at Meta.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm so glad that you joined us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you've joined us in a very, very exciting season.

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<v SPEAKER_00>God is doing so many wonderful things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Last week we celebrated 25 baptisms here at Meta Church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That is why we do what we do to see people move from spiritual death into spiritual life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And there's more exciting news.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you haven't heard, God has blessed us with the purchase of a new building, a permanent space that we are gonna be able to move into.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is something we've been working on for a really long time, and I have a lot of dates.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're gonna put them all up here in just a minute for you to remember as we are transitioning in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Next Sunday, November 14th, we're going to have what we're calling our first look event.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This will be the first time that we all have a chance to gather together in our new building.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We want to get everyone together to tour the building, to pray over this new space that God has given us and to wrap up our whatever it takes campaign, which so many of you have been giving so generously to.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This event starts at 6 p.m.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The address to the new building is 1207 Richland Hills Drive.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's right off of 151 in Petranko.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's only about three miles away from the 151 saloon.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Speaking of the new building, we are pretty confident that our first service will be December 5th.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We are moving very quickly, we're very excited.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So here's what we have to do in order to move all of our operations over, here's what the next few weeks will look like.

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<v SPEAKER_00>On November 21st, we will have our very last service in the saloon.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I really hope that you guys will show up as we begin to look forward to what God has for us in the future.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We are gonna take time and thank him and show our gratitude for all that God has done in and through this place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The next week, November 28th, which is the Sunday after Thanksgiving, there will be no in-person services at all.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everything will be online.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We need one week off in order to get everything moved over.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Our hope there is that you will use this as you're gathered with friends and family for Thanksgiving to get our message and our mission in front of even more people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if we can pull all this off, then December 5th will be our first Sunday gathering together in our new space.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Again, the 14th is our first look event.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The 21st is the last Sunday at the saloon.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The 28th, there are no in-person services, and December 5th, we will open up the new building.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That is our transition plan, and we're so grateful for all of you helping us walk through that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, as we get ready to get in the word, would you pray with me?

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<v SPEAKER_00>God, we love you and we thank you for loving us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're just humbled, we're we're blown away.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The God of it all, the God of the universe, sees us, that you desire relationship with us, that you have a plan for us, that you pursue us, God, even when we are running from you, that you are running after us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You don't require that we clean ourselves up to come to you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You meet us exactly where we are.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You help us, you heal us, you make us whole, you set us on the right path.

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<v SPEAKER_00>God, we are here from all different parts of our faith journey.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There are people here who have been following you for years and years, and there are people here who are still not really sure what they believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Maybe they are skeptical or agnostic, maybe they're pretty sure that you don't exist at all, but we're all here, and in your word, you say, if we seek you, we will find you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I pray that we would have the humility to do that, to open our minds and our hearts to whatever you might want to say.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so we come together to learn from you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We ask it all in Jesus' name.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if you're ready to go, say amen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Amen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>As God is moving us into this new exciting direction, we've really been taking this time to just drill down on who we are.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The last few weeks we talked about what we believe and why we believe what we believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And now we're gonna take some weeks to talk exactly about who we are as this unique expression of the church called Metachurch.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, it feels like a lot of church planting stories start with someone who has a lot of clarity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They have like a mission and they have an idea, and they're able to come forth with a declaration, we're gonna go after these people and this side of the city, and this is how we're gonna do it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that's a beautiful thing, and it's probably not surprising that at MetaCurch we started almost nothing like that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Metachurch did not start with a proclamation or a clarified idea.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In fact, it was the opposite of that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The beginning of MetaCurch started with a question, and it was an odd question for me to wrestle with, because I'd already been a pastor for about 10 years at that point, and I could not get this idea out of my mind.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The question was: why would anyone go to church?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's a rough question, but if you're not asking it, you're actually not acknowledging what is happening in our world currently.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now we're a little bit protected from this because in Texas, we are in what they call the Bible belt.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But across the rest of our country and across the West in general, people are leaving the church in record numbers.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Every year, as polls go out, there are more and more percentages of people who say they have no religious affiliation, they have no spiritual identification, there are more and more people every year identifying themselves as agnostics and as atheists.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What's worse is that the church has become to be viewed as nothing but judgmental, ignorant, backwards, spiteful.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Many people have a view of the God of Christianity as someone whose only job is to ruin whatever fun or joy you might have in your life and lead you into a life of like a prudish nightmare, and the statistics are bearing all of this out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>More than 85% of churches in America are in active decline.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That was before the pandemic.

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<v SPEAKER_00>One study has shown that post-pandemic, one out of every four churches will close their doors permanently.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Almost 60% of kids who are in the church nursery, children's church, youth program, they graduate out, go to college, go to the workforce, become adults, they leave the church behind, and they never join the church again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Why would anyone go to church?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I had to wrestle with this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And at the bottom of it all, many of these problems are self-imposed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just on a practical level, it can be difficult to get to church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, a lot of you, Sunday is your one day off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You gotta get up early, you gotta get the family ready, you gotta fight with the kids, get everyone in the car, you gotta fight for a parking space, you gotta come in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The preacher goes way too long.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like, it's hard, man.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The times all fall during your favorite NFL games.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's difficult.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so, if you can get a family to church, what they often encounter when they get there are inauthentic, judgmental, top-down, controlling cultures that once they've experienced it, they are sure they do not need in their lives.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Why would anyone go to church?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the hard part was wrestling with how we got here from this movement and this mission, the church that Jesus started and gave his life for coming to a place in culture where it has lost all of its power and its influence.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And here's what was so difficult for me to wrestle with.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The first time the word church ever appears in the scripture, our foundation for truth, it is attached to a promise from Jesus Himself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In Matthew 16, verse 18, Jesus said, I will build my church, and the forces of Hades will not overpower it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I will build my church, and even all of the power of hell itself will not be able to stand against it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If nothing is supposed to be able to overcome the church, then why does the church seem so powerless in a world that desperately needs the hope that the church brings?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so this one question led to a season of study that led to eventual clarity on church, what it is, why Jesus started it, and what his original intention was for it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And out of that clarity, they're wrestling with a question.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And here we are in 2021, having gone through the last 20 months that none of us saw coming, and that turned our world upside down, we stand in a place right now, at a time in our history that the world needs the movement Jesus started more than ever.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Will we get the church right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus said, his church, the thing he started, nothing will stand against.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if you aren't a Christian and you're not from a church background, one of the starting places for us, one of the things that we believe is that Jesus is truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's not just that Jesus doesn't lie, he is truth itself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He cannot go against his own nature, which means if Jesus said it, we believe it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So when we look around and we see a church in decline and we look at the words of Jesus, he says his church will always overcome what we have to conclude is that something about how the church is operating today does not match the church that Jesus set out to start.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, how do we get this right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You see, we have a picture of the movement when the movement moves, and we see it in the first few centuries because what we're doing here today in San Antonio, Texas, and what is happening all over the world and the global church started in an obscure part of the Middle East by Jesus and just a handful of his followers.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It had dramatic impact and it spread like wildfire right at the beginning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We see a tremendous contrast between the church today and what it was like in those first few centuries.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right after Jesus left earth, his followers went and they spread this message of a God who loves us enough to come and give his life for us, to overcome death itself, and a promise that he will return for those who believe in him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the message spread, and it spread.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In Acts chapter 2, we see the response of the people in Jerusalem, the very people who crucified Jesus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In Acts 2 38, Peter replied, Repent and be baptized, each of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>For the promises for you and your children and all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And with many other words, he testified and strongly urged them, saying, Be saved from this corrupt generation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so those who accepted his message were baptized.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that day, the first official meeting of the church, that day, about three thousand people were saved.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Three thousand people baptized in the first day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is the church that hell itself cannot stand against.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this was not unusual.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The guys you may have heard of, Peter, James, John, Paul, many others, they would travel the known world spreading this gospel message, the good news of who Jesus was and what he did for us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The first 300 years of the church were explosive in their growth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, modern people with all of our wisdom and knowledge and all of our savvy were really ready to write these people off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like these were ancient, uneducated, ritualistic barbarians.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They believed all the myths.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This was just another one to add to their plate, and you'd be completely missing the point.

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<v SPEAKER_00>People believed in the myths and the legend because it helped them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It gave them a better life, it helped them integrate into society.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was a point of commonality to advance your ability to earn money and income.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was a commonality for the people that you were dating and marrying.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Believing in Jesus did the exact opposite.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It did not promote your well-being.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It did not help you earn.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It did not integrate you into society.

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<v SPEAKER_00>From the jump to claim the name of Jesus put you under tremendous persecution.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Persecution was coming from all sides.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The religion of Judaism saw it a threat to their religious power.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They were persecuting, imprisoning Rome, the greatest empire at that time, saw it as a threat to their political power and sandwiched in between Jerusalem and Rome.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you were to believe in Jesus, and especially if you demonstrated it by gathering together as the church, you were putting your life at risk.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You were asking for your family to disown you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You were asking to lose your employment.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You were asking to potentially be imprisoned, and many were even losing their lives.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Many religions, world religions, have spread through the use of force at the edge of a knife or a gun, convert or die.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's one way to spread the message.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Early Christianity did the exact opposite.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It said, convert and you might die.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But what you have in exchange is something even greater.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This movement moved, it spread and it grew, and nobody could give an account for why.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It cost you to follow Jesus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And even though it cost you, it continued to grow, it continued to expand.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Rome, who was taking Christians and feeding them to the lions in the Colosseum, when the message of Jesus got to Rome, what it did there was extraordinary.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A historian and professor at the University of Virginia, Robert Wilken, he studied the Roman Empire in great detail.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What he found is that at the end of the first century, there were fewer than 10,000 Christians in the Roman Empire.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That was about one hundredth of one percent of the population Christians were not even on the radar.

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<v SPEAKER_00>However, 150 years later, the number had risen to more than a million.

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<v SPEAKER_00>From 10,000 to over a million people who were claiming the name of Jesus, even though you would be sentenced to almost sure death by doing so.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That seemed to be a tipping point.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just 50 years later, by the year 300, 10% of the Roman population was now Christian, over six million people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just 13 years later, Emperor Constantine officially made Christianity one of the religions that was accepted in Rome.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And 10 years after that, Christianity became the official state religion.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Christianity, who serves one God and one God only, became the empire's religion in a place where there was already a pantheon of gods, and the emperors themselves were worshipped as God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This was spreading to the ends of the earth in a time where there were no denominations, no church conferences, there were no televangelists, there were no Christian bookstores.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You may not know this, but by that point, there actually wasn't even a canonized or formalized Bible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The Bible that you have on your shelf or on your phone, it was not put together yet.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All there were were these letters floating around being copied and transmitted by the small percentage of people who could actually read and write.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And even if there was a Bible, there was no printing press to distribute it anyway.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Against all odds, the movement of Jesus spread.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It spread to the point where 2,000 years later, we are here in America, in San Antonio, Texas, still a part of the same movement.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The church could not be stopped.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And yet, we now live in a society where it is a fair question to ask why would anyone go to church?

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<v SPEAKER_00>To understand this radical shift, we must understand what the church is.

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<v SPEAKER_00>First, let's look at what the Bible says.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We'll go back to Matthew 16, 18.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is the first use of the word church in the Bible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It says, I will build my church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus said this: I will build my church, the most powerful force on earth, the church of Jesus Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, to really understand context and began to really deep dive as I felt this compulsion to do, wrestling with this important question of why would people actually come to church?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have to understand context.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And one part of context is to look at things in their original language.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what Jesus said in the Greek language that this was originally written in is this I will build my ekklesia.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I will build my ekklesia.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Ekklesia is the Greek word that eventually was translated to our English word church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What does ekklesia actually mean?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What is the root meaning of this word?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Ekklesia is a compound word in Greek.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Ek means out or out of, and klecia is from kleo, which means to call.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Ekklesia means simply to call out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, over time, this has become our word for church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But the original meaning is to call out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what's so interesting and it's so informative of what Jesus intended for his church to be is that the word ecclesia, out of all of the words that Jesus could have chosen, he did not choose a spiritual word, he did not choose a religious word.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The word ecclesia was a political word.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it actually was very informative of what an ecclesia was.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In politics during Jesus' time, an ecclesia is when people would be called out, it was the ones who were called out of their society, of their town, of their village, and they were given a specific purpose, and they were given a significant purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And when something needed to be changed or updated or legislated or enacted in that society for the betterment of the society, certain members would be called out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They would meet together, decide on a course of action, and then they would move together out into their city to mobilize and enact what was decided.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This was an ecclesia.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was common.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It said exactly what it did.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We have a political term that does that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the house of representatives.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It tells you exactly what it is, or at least what it's supposed to be.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the house that the people who represent us work in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The house of representatives.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The ecclesia was the called out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what did Jesus say?

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<v SPEAKER_00>He said, I will build my ecclesia.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I will be the one who is now calling people out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this movement, my ecclesia, will have a specific purpose, and it will have the most significant purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The ones he is calling out of their everyday life, calling out of their brokenness, calling out of their addiction, calling out of their frustrations, calling out of their constant search for purpose, calling out of going down every avenue that the world can offer to try and find significance, to try and find fulfillment, only becoming emptier the more that you consume.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Calling them out for the ultimate purpose, the redemption and rescue of the world itself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if you think there is any room for error, Jesus said that his ecclesia, those he is calling out, nothing will stop them, not even hell itself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That is his church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A movement is something you can wake up every day excited to be a part of.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if we are willing to be honest, the Western church, what it has largely become, is easy to sleep in on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's easy to skip out on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's easy to skip a month of offering.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You got bills to pay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you're just giving to buildings, just giving to organizations, just giving to gather and sit in the seats and sing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Songs, it's easy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so we sleep on the church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And even the people who love the church sleep on the church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And pretty soon the church loses its power, it loses its relevancy, it's it loses its cultural impact.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so, how did we get so off course?

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<v SPEAKER_00>For several hundred years, they were just going, they were taking over, they were showing up and calling people to a movement and a part of God's story that He's writing to rescue and redeem the world itself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And people said, at cost of my life, I will go.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The church that we experience today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Forget giving up your life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We'll barely give up our convenience.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How did we get so far off?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You see, after Jesus left earth, he left his movement in the hands of a small group of people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We called them the apostles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And they began this movement, and the movement was moving, and they traveled as missionaries, and they planted these local expressions of the ecclesia, these local churches, and they taught people how to give their life away as a part of this movement.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you see, right from the beginning, in the New Testament book of Acts, which is a history of the beginning of the church, you see them constantly fighting against one of the main enemies of this movement, the enemy of control.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And as humans, we love control.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Control makes us comfortable, and control gives us some ability to get our way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you start getting a large, diverse group of people together, and things can get really hairy really quickly, and you make it a non-political movement.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so, you know, people who've got MAGA hats at home are sitting right next to people with field of burn shirts in their closet, you know, and like all of a sudden it starts getting really tricky, and there's different ideas and different perspectives and different backgrounds and different worldviews, and we're all coming together, and so everyone's looking for control.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And there's some problems.

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<v SPEAKER_00>One of the problems is that Jesus didn't come to control, he came to empower.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what you see in every other world religion is using things like fear and manipulation to ensure that kind of control.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And when the church, the ecclesia, the called-out people of God, when we begin to use control the same way as all the other world religions, we begin to chip away at the very thing that makes us unique in the first place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A movement not based on fear, a movement empowered by love.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We begin to destroy that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And by destroying it, we're taking out the foundation of what makes us powerful, and everyone likes control.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And one of the ways to gain control is to have some kind of container.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so if you look at every world religion, every world religion is built on what's called the temple model.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everyone has a sacred place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You might have a temple, you might have a mosque, you might, you might have a cathedral, you have something.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's your sacred place, your sacred space.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus didn't come to create sacred places, he came to call people to a sacred purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It is a huge reversal against all other world religions.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Most world religions have a sacred place, and if there's a sacred place, then you do the right things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You put on your best clothes and you make the pilgrimage and you go and you bow down to the place and you worship the place, and the place is the purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Christianity says you can go to the most sacred place that you can possibly find here on planet Earth, and the building that you're in cannot compare to the sacredness of the person you're beside.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It didn't come to create sacred places, but over time there's a gravitational pull towards control.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so the ecclesia was the called-out people of God, and the church requires organization.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It just does.

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<v SPEAKER_00>As soon as you have three people meeting somewhere, you're organizing at some level.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what happened is in the tradition of the early church, within the first hundred years, they started putting together what was called a curiokon.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In the Greek, that means the house of the Lord or the place of the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the curiocon in Greek, what it shows is that we started having the idea of sacred places borrowed from the other world religions, borrowed from Judaism, borrowed from all of the other uh expressions of faith, and we needed our own.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we had a Kuriakon, and it was the house of the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so what is sacred when it's the house of the Lord?

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's not the Lord Himself or the people in it, it's the house.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if you look at how translation took place, one of the first modern language to be translated to was German.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And when they translated the word ekklesia in German, they translated it to the word kirche.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the word kirche was defined as the house of the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What does ekklesia mean?

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<v SPEAKER_00>It means the called-out people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>People, not place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And eventually scriptures were translated into English.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And there were a few translators who went all the way back to Ecclesia, and they said Ecclesia is about the people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so some people, like William Tyndale, they translated it as congregation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A way more accurate description because that's about the people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And William Tyndale, for his efforts, was burned alive at the stake.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We translated Kirche to church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the word itself is not bad, but what has happened is we have viewed the translation through the lens of our tradition.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everyone has a sacred space.

00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Everyone has a house for their God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Why shouldn't we?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So over time, Jesus, with an emphasis on people, shifted to the church, the Kyriacon, the Kirche, an emphasis on place, the house of the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so what?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where does that lead us?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Here we get our word church, and when I began to realize this, so many things began to fall into place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We took our translation and we viewed it through the lens of our tradition.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If it's the house of the Lord, then of course, there's no running in the sanctuary.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If it is the house of the Lord, then the house itself becomes a part of the purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It becomes a part of your passion.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If it's the house of the Lord, then you gotta make sure that only the right people get in and the wrong people stay out.

00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:23.359
<v SPEAKER_00>If it's the house of the Lord, then you better show up in your Sunday best.

00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:28.240
<v SPEAKER_00>And if your Sunday best isn't good enough, then you might as well not show up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If it's the house of the Lord, then we create unwritten rules and unwritten codes, and we have this exclusive level of membership, and there's an us and there's a them, and we're very clear on who the us is, and we're very clue on who the them is.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if the them walks in, you know they're gonna get judged, and you're gonna judge them even or either until they come up to your standards of what is required in the house of the Lord, or you're going to judge them until they leave and never show up in church again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I'm telling you, if that's how we're gonna run church, people are gonna choose the second option.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They are voting with their feet right now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what happens is you end up with a small segment of people who get to feel really good because they are the chosen few who get to exist in the house of the Lord, and the rest of the people are left on the outside.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And their only hope is to find something in the world to try and fill this God-sized hole in their heart, and we end up distancing ourselves from the very people that Jesus put us on earth to reach.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The early church did not grow because it sought to control.

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:41.759
<v SPEAKER_00>The early church grew because people knew Jesus, saw his miracles, watched him die, saw him three days later, resurrected, spent 40 days with him, saw him ascend into heaven and promised to come back.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They were willing to cement that belief with their life, and they spread that message to the ends of the earth, and nothing could stop it as long as it was focused on what Jesus told us to focus on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The calling out of a broken world, the calling out of broken people, the calling out into a movement that is saving, rescuing, and redeeming the world and the opportunity, if we get the movement right, the opportunity for us as sinful, flawed, jacked-up individuals to have an opportunity to play a role as that story, the story of God unfolds should be worth giving our lives to.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if we're just giving our lives away to protect a sacred space.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, interesting sermon for a bunch of people who just bought a building.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Am I right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's more important now than ever.

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:31.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Because I'll be honest, I'm so grateful for the saloon and all that God has done here.

00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.519
<v SPEAKER_00>But it's pretty easy to not call this a church, you know?

00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:39.920
<v SPEAKER_00>It's just obvious for us.

00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:41.920
<v SPEAKER_00>It's right there in front of us.

00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:42.799
<v SPEAKER_00>You know?

00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:47.920
<v SPEAKER_00>A church is not a sacred place, but it should have cleaner bathrooms than this.

00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:48.799
<v SPEAKER_00>You know what I'm saying?

00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:54.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, we can at least have one-quarter sacred bathrooms at some point, you know?

00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:55.839
<v SPEAKER_00>It's so critical.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right now is the time to hammer this home.

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:09.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Because if we're not careful with a new beautiful building that we can be oh so proud of, the building itself could become the same trap.

00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.799
<v SPEAKER_00>The building itself with all of its potential, and it has a lot of potential.

00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:14.160
<v SPEAKER_00>I hope you come to the first look of it.

00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:15.599
<v SPEAKER_00>It has so much potential.

00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:22.880
<v SPEAKER_00>It could be the most incredible tool for the movement, for the people of God, for the church, which is you, you are the church.

00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.680
<v SPEAKER_00>It could be the greatest weapon in our arsenal to come after and take this city for Jesus.

00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:42.559
<v SPEAKER_00>But the moment it becomes the purpose, the moment the building itself becomes the passion, we are trading the movement that Jesus started for a false version that has been pushed through our world.

00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:53.839
<v SPEAKER_00>A false version that says the purpose of church is just to come to sit in the seats, to sing the songs, to read out of the book, and then you can check it off of your religious list and be good.

00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.559
<v SPEAKER_00>That version, this counterfeit church, has failed.

00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.440
<v SPEAKER_00>It has failed in its mission to reach our world.

00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.279
<v SPEAKER_00>It has failed in its mission to bring hope to the hopeless.

00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.279
<v SPEAKER_00>It is dying.

00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And if we forget what church actually is, we will die as well.

00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not saying there's no purpose to what we're doing right now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Scripture calls us explicitly to meet together.

00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:26.640
<v SPEAKER_00>In Hebrews 10, it says, and let us be concerned about one another in order to promote love and good works.

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:33.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Verse 25, not staying away from our worship meetings as some habitually do, but encouraging each other.

00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:38.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And all the more as you see the day drawing near, meeting together is vitally important.

00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.400
<v SPEAKER_00>But the meeting is not the purpose.

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:49.279
<v SPEAKER_00>The meeting is part of the process to bring the people of God into the fullness of their purpose.

00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:58.400
<v SPEAKER_00>We are not meeting in a church, we meet together as the church in the space.

00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:04.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And you can rewind the tape ever since we've been pushing for a new building and expanding and fundraising.

00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:05.359
<v SPEAKER_00>You can rewind the tape.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We've been very careful.

00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:12.480
<v SPEAKER_00>There's no point where you can find us saying we are building or buying a church.

00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:18.400
<v SPEAKER_00>When you begin to understand church, that is a sentence that doesn't make any sense.

00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:25.199
<v SPEAKER_00>At the very beginning of MetaCurch, we put together the basis of our strategy for reaching our city.

00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:31.679
<v SPEAKER_00>We tried to, as simply as we could, define exactly what Jesus' original intention for his church was.

00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And at the broadest level, this is what we discovered.

00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:39.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus called us out to meet together and to move together.

00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:43.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And when you're just going to the sacred space, you just meet.

00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And any movement, that's great, but it's not the purpose.

00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:55.519
<v SPEAKER_00>The purpose is information and building knowledge and coming together and sheltering yourself from the big, bad world outside of the sacred place.

00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:03.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus said, We meet together, we come together, we challenge each other, we get inspired and enlightened, we fully discover our purpose.

00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:12.239
<v SPEAKER_00>We come in to get our marching orders so that the church, you and I, the church, can then leave this place and move together in real ways in our community.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if we get the church right, if we will meet together, not for the sake of meeting, but meet together in order to move together and effect real change in a very broken world, we can reclaim the power of the church as it was intended, as it took over the world, and we can make a difference in this world as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Why would anyone go to church?

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's a question that if we're not asking it, plenty of other people are.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if you look at the statistics, there is a resounding answer that we won't go to church.

00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.280
<v SPEAKER_00>But you see, there's a flaw in the question itself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The question implies that the church is a place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Church is not something that you can go to.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The church is something you are a part of.

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.000
<v SPEAKER_00>You are the church, you are the movement.

00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:18.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And if you want to see the power of the potential of this movement, then you will meet together and you will move together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Not just information in the meeting, but application of the word of God into our real world that needs a movement of people who will quit playing church and checking off a religious list, but start living as the church and making a difference in our world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Let me remind you what Jesus said.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I will build my ecclesia.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the forces of Hades will not overpower it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Metachurch.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We are one local expression of the church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All believers in all places, we are all called to move with Jesus, to move with the Spirit of God.

00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.280
<v SPEAKER_00>We can't be responsible for anyone but ourselves.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But in this place, if you think that this is where you come and get comfortable and feel a little bit better about yourself because you went to church, you are going to be uncomfortable here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We have work to do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And as God is blessing us and expanding us, we must make sure we take that work seriously.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We will meet together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We meet together in weekend gatherings.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We meet together in community with each other in our life teams.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We meet together to get healthy in our life classes and programs, but we meet to move.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Would you pray with me?

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<v SPEAKER_00>God, we love you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I thank you for your ecclesia.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I thank you that you have called us out.

00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.559
<v SPEAKER_00>You've given us purpose, you've invited us in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>No matter who we are, where we've been, no matter how many skeletons are in our closet, no matter how little we may think of ourselves or how disappointed we are in the life that we're living, you have called us out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You've called us into something bigger than ourselves.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have called us to a life of specific and significant purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I pray that we would be the church that you intended for us to be.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We love you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We pray these things in Jesus' name.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Amen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thanks so much for listening to the message today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If this was helpful to you and you want to help us get the word out, you can subscribe to this podcast.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can rate and review or share it with your friends.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you want to get connected further with what MetaCurch is doing, you can go online to metachurch.tv.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There you can learn how to take next steps.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can learn where our different venues are at if you ever wanted to visit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you can also give financially to help push this movement forward.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Man, I love you guys, and I hope you have a great rest of your day.
