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I look forward to"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2451.119,"endTime":2454.059,"body":"continuing to follow along on"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2451.119,"endTime":2454.059,"body":"the internet and see what you're"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2454.059,"endTime":2457.569,"body":"doing and I'll be shooting you"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2454.059,"endTime":2457.569,"body":"questions as they come up if I"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2457.569,"endTime":2461.649,"body":"have any baking steel or pizza"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2457.569,"endTime":2461.649,"body":"related. It sounds great, man."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2461.649,"endTime":2464.859,"body":"Thank you. And to all of our"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2461.649,"endTime":2464.859,"body":"listeners. 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