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But where"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3740.76,"endTime":3743.43,"body":"do you want to send people to if"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3740.76,"endTime":3743.43,"body":"I mean, they can find you"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3743.43,"endTime":3745.53,"body":"everywhere on the internet. But"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3743.43,"endTime":3745.53,"body":"are there any places right now"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3745.53,"endTime":3748.17,"body":"that you want people to check"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3745.53,"endTime":3748.17,"body":"out or anything? On my"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3748.17,"endTime":3752.7,"body":"Instagram, Carla P Hall, and"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3748.17,"endTime":3752.7,"body":"then my website, Carla hall.com."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3753.33,"endTime":3756.15,"body":"I will link all that up in the"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3753.33,"endTime":3756.15,"body":"show notes. I love watching your"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3756.15,"endTime":3759.18,"body":"Instagrams I sometimes drop in"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3756.15,"endTime":3759.18,"body":"Instagram lives. So that's a"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3759.18,"endTime":3762.72,"body":"real pleasure there. Well, it's"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3759.18,"endTime":3762.72,"body":"always nice to see where you"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3762.72,"endTime":3765.93,"body":"drop in. So thank you for having"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3762.72,"endTime":3765.93,"body":"me. This was really fun. Thanks"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3765.93,"endTime":3768.45,"body":"for coming on the show. And to"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3765.93,"endTime":3768.45,"body":"all of our listeners. This has"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3768.45,"endTime":3770.49,"body":"been Chris with the Chefs"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3768.45,"endTime":3770.49,"body":"Without Restaurants podcast."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3770.52,"endTime":3773.25,"body":"Thanks so much and have a great"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3770.52,"endTime":3773.25,"body":"week. Go to chefs without"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3773.25,"endTime":3776.79,"body":"restaurants.org To find our"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3773.25,"endTime":3776.79,"body":"Facebook group, mailing list and"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3776.79,"endTime":3781.02,"body":"Chef database. The community is"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3776.79,"endTime":3781.02,"body":"free to join. You'll get gig"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3781.02,"endTime":3783.27,"body":"opportunities, advice on"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3781.02,"endTime":3783.27,"body":"building and growing your"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3783.27,"endTime":3786.84,"body":"business and you'll never miss"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3783.27,"endTime":3786.84,"body":"an episode of our podcast. Have"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3786.84,"endTime":3787.5,"body":"a great week."}]}