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It's been such"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3338.009,"endTime":3340.049,"body":"a pleasure getting to know you a"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3338.009,"endTime":3340.049,"body":"little bit and talking to you"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3340.049,"endTime":3340.439,"body":"today."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":3340.919,"endTime":3344.879,"body":"Yeah, man, please stay"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":3340.919,"endTime":3344.879,"body":"in touch. And yeah, let me know."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":3344.879,"endTime":3348.329,"body":"And this is live and everything."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":3344.879,"endTime":3348.329,"body":"I enjoyed it. Thank you."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3348.72,"endTime":3350.34,"body":"And to all of our"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3348.72,"endTime":3350.34,"body":"listeners. 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