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As I said"},{"speaker":"Pat Lee","startTime":3314.52,"endTime":3317.31,"body":"before, Chris, I love talking"},{"speaker":"Pat Lee","startTime":3314.52,"endTime":3317.31,"body":"with people about food and just,"},{"speaker":"Pat Lee","startTime":3317.34,"endTime":3320.22,"body":"you know, shared experiences."},{"speaker":"Pat Lee","startTime":3317.34,"endTime":3320.22,"body":"And I wish you the best of luck"},{"speaker":"Pat Lee","startTime":3320.22,"endTime":3321.06,"body":"in your pockets."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3321.21,"endTime":3323.46,"body":"Same to you. And"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3321.21,"endTime":3323.46,"body":"we'll definitely see each other"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3323.46,"endTime":3326.04,"body":"again. Absolutely. And to all of"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3323.46,"endTime":3326.04,"body":"our listeners. 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