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As"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3656.97,"endTime":3661.08,"body":"always, you can find us at Chefs"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3656.97,"endTime":3661.08,"body":"Without restaurants.com.org and"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3661.08,"endTime":3664.44,"body":"on all social media platforms."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3661.08,"endTime":3664.44,"body":"Thanks so much for listening and"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3664.44,"endTime":3667.02,"body":"have a great day. Thanks for"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3664.44,"endTime":3667.02,"body":"listening to the Chefs Without"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3667.02,"endTime":3669.78,"body":"Restaurants podcast. And if"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3667.02,"endTime":3669.78,"body":"you're interested in being a"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3669.78,"endTime":3673.86,"body":"guest on the show, or sponsoring"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3669.78,"endTime":3673.86,"body":"the show, please let us know. We"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3673.86,"endTime":3678.36,"body":"can be reached at Chefs Without"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3673.86,"endTime":3678.36,"body":"restaurants@gmail.com Thanks so"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3678.36,"endTime":3678.87,"body":"much."}]}