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So"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2874.72,"endTime":2877.33,"body":"thanks again for opening up your"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2877.33,"endTime":2878.83,"body":"podcast doors and having me on."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2879.22,"endTime":2881.5,"body":"And to all of our"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2879.22,"endTime":2881.5,"body":"podcast listeners. This has been"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2881.5,"endTime":2884.23,"body":"Chris with the Chefs Without"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2881.5,"endTime":2884.23,"body":"Restaurants podcast. As always,"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2884.23,"endTime":2888.25,"body":"you can find us at Chefs Without"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2884.23,"endTime":2888.25,"body":"restaurants.com.org and on all"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2888.25,"endTime":2891.31,"body":"social media platforms. Thanks"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2888.25,"endTime":2891.31,"body":"so much and have a great day."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2891.7,"endTime":2893.53,"body":"Thanks for listening to the"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2891.7,"endTime":2893.53,"body":"Chefs Without Restaurants"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2893.53,"endTime":2896.29,"body":"podcast. And if you're"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2893.53,"endTime":2896.29,"body":"interested in being a guest on"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2896.29,"endTime":2900.13,"body":"the show, or sponsoring the"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":2896.29,"endTime":2900.13,"body":"show, please let us know. 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