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I know my wife will be"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3057.839,"endTime":3061.379,"body":"appreciative of you plugging,"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3057.839,"endTime":3061.379,"body":"you know, finding an actual"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3061.379,"endTime":3065.759,"body":"dietitian to help you with your"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3061.379,"endTime":3065.759,"body":"journey. Thanks so much for"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3065.759,"endTime":3067.949,"body":"coming on the show. I really"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3065.759,"endTime":3067.949,"body":"enjoyed talking to you."},{"speaker":"David Orozco","startTime":3068.13,"endTime":3070.65,"body":"Yeah, I really"},{"speaker":"David Orozco","startTime":3068.13,"endTime":3070.65,"body":"did, too. I really appreciate"},{"speaker":"David Orozco","startTime":3070.65,"endTime":3073.86,"body":"it. I'm so glad that you asked"},{"speaker":"David Orozco","startTime":3070.65,"endTime":3073.86,"body":"me to come on. And I'm glad that"},{"speaker":"David Orozco","startTime":3073.86,"endTime":3076.77,"body":"you were able to come on my show"},{"speaker":"David Orozco","startTime":3073.86,"endTime":3076.77,"body":"as well. So yeah, I think Chris,"},{"speaker":"David Orozco","startTime":3076.77,"endTime":3077.37,"body":"thanks a lot."},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3077.699,"endTime":3080.069,"body":"Go to chefs without"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3077.699,"endTime":3080.069,"body":"restaurants.org To find our"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3080.069,"endTime":3084.209,"body":"Facebook group, mailing list and"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3080.069,"endTime":3084.209,"body":"check database. The community's"},{"speaker":"Chris Spear","startTime":3084.209,"endTime":3087.779,"body":"free to join. 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