Feeling Grungy

Hosts:  Ren Harris & david mills
Executive Producer: InterWest Concepts
Sound Engineers:  Ren Harris & david mills

Recorded live, unscripted and uncut at InterWest Concepts Studios in Farmington, NM. Our wonderful sponsors are not responsible for any of the content of said programming, they just help make it all possible. Guests are not paid to appear; they completely volunteer to subject themselves to the craziness. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

People need water, people need air, people need music.

SPEAKER_06 0:05

Here it is, another beautiful day in the land of enchantment, and it's time for the show who was ranked number three in music podcasts in 2023. Shooting for number four just to give the others a chance. Whom am I kidding? Headed to number one in your hearts for sure. Time for yet another wondrous episode of the wake up call with your hosts, Ren and David.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Yay!

SPEAKER_09 0:35

Is the microphone working? It's a friend, as a friend, it's a no meet your time, hurry up, choose your down belate. Take a breath, as a friend, as I'm not being jumped down, down to beach, beat out you beat friend, bear the friend, down, oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

That was kind of dark. That was kind of Yeah, it was a little dark. A little grungy, maybe?

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Well, I'm you know, I've been working really hard out there sweating in our new studio trying to get it put together so we can get out. I'm feeling kind of grungy.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

Okay, well you know what? Today, on the KSJE Sunday morning wake up call. With my friend Ren. And my grungy buddy Dave. Let's do some uh let's do some grunge meetings. Grunge? Grunge?

SPEAKER_03 4:34

You know, I'm not familiar with grunge at all. And I was gonna look it up beforehand and get the definition. I was gonna check Wikipedia. Guess what?

SPEAKER_01 4:41

What?

SPEAKER_03 4:42

I have not done any of that. So I'm gonna I do have my things that make you go, hmm. Okay, we got that impression. Good. Um but other than that, Ren, I I'm sitting here with a blank slate in my mind. It's like an it's like a blank chalkboard for you to write on.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

I'm so excited because grunge me up, baby. I had a feeling you might not. You would be too busy. See, of course, it wasn't that you were too procrastinating. You were too busy, so I looked it up for you, don't worry. Okay and uh first of all, that the first song was Come as You Are by the you know the pinnacle of Grunge, the band Nirvana.

SPEAKER_03 5:23

Oh you know what? I I I felt familiar with that style or that music and the voice and everything like that. I I should know who this is. Yeah, it kind of makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

I they have a very a more famous song uh called It Smells Like Teen Spirit.

SPEAKER_03 5:39

Oh yeah, I remember that one.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

But everyone's kinda heard that, so I wanted to open it up with my favorite Nirvana song, Come As You Are, which I love that opening little riff. But uh grunge is a genre of rock music that flourished in the late 1980s and early 1990s and spawned a particular style of fashion. Like the grunge wasn't just the music, it was also the subculture, yeah, the cult the the clothing. The term grunge was first used to describe the murky guitar bands, most notably Nirvana and Pearl Jam, that emerged from Seattle in the late 1980s as a bridge between mainstream 1980s heavy metal hard rock and post-punk alternative rock.

SPEAKER_03 6:21

So grunge really kind of came out of Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

Now here's the deal. Now think about this for a second. Have you ever been to Seattle?

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Uh no, but I knew actually I have been to Seattle. I was very briefly when I was a teenager.

SPEAKER_03 6:35

Well, you know, the sun never shines there. As a matter of fact, it rains all the time, primarily. I mean, I've I've been doing business trips up there a couple of times. But if the sun does come out, the people of Seattle wonder what they've done wrong. This is an omen what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

Either that or they're so moody when the sun comes out, they actually hide from it.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

Exactly. But the food, the seafood, oh my gosh, I could go on.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Now I know my family, before I was born in Pennsylvania, they lived in Seattle probably in the early 90s. So they were probably there for a lot of the grunge explosion. And uh they've never really told me anything about it other than they started seeing a lot of teenagers running around with dirty hair and flannels, which is a big part of grunge music.

SPEAKER_03 7:21

Dirty hair and flannels.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

But I guess it was too much for them, so they ran to Pennsylvania.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

That's how I am every day in the winter.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

You're a grunge, man. You're rep in the grunge.

SPEAKER_03 7:29

There we go. Let me just say this, I'm not a huge fan of like Pearl Dream. I mean, I like some of their stuff. And Ron is the same way, I like some of their stuff as well. Um and you know, I did a thing a few years ago, the controversy with the little boy on the uh cover.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Yes, the never the Nevermind cover, which is what Become As You Are is that the album it's from.

SPEAKER_03 7:52

That album. And I think we even talked about it on one of our shows too, like the guy was trying to sue them or something.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Because he thought it was exploit child exploitation or something. Which is like I mean, it's one thing if it is an incredibly iconic image. It is, and it'd be one thing if he wasn't still getting royalties from it because he was a big part of it.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

That's a solid point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

But also, you don't need to make up reasons for why you're upset. If if you're simply upset because it's like, yeah, my image, my baby image was used. So I want money for that. You don't have to make up things about exactly. Uh which is kind of funny too, because grunge is a little anti-establishment.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

Oh, that's funny. That is funny. There's so many jokes that I would like to say about this whole thing. Maybe maybe the reason he's upset is because that's his wee wee hasn't grown any.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Oh no. He hasn't gotten a date. He hasn't gotten a single date his whole life. You're like, um, is this you? Yeah, I'm gonna pass. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

Alright. I'm I'm not totally off track, so sorry.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

No, you're fine. I mean it's a big part of the grunge scene these days. And uh yeah, I know you said you don't really like grunge too much, but hopefully I don't mind it.

SPEAKER_03 9:15

You don't mind it. Yeah, it's not that I don't like it, but uh okay. Yeah, it's not I would not pick that out to listen to.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Well, maybe I'll play you a couple songs that you do like.

SPEAKER_03 9:25

Yeah, I'm telling you right now, you have converted me on a couple others. So I'm anxious for this show today.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Let's see.

SPEAKER_03 9:31

And of course, we're gonna have uh the Zen of Ren.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

Zen of Ren.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

And we'll have a do we have a do we have a movie?

SPEAKER_01 9:36

We do have a movie. Okay, we do have a movie.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

Okay, and fantastic. And I of course have things that make you go. And I'm really excited because well, I'll just we'll just wait. It'll be a sus it'll be a susprise.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Yeah, so l stay for the music and keep staying for the extra content.

SPEAKER_03 9:54

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Alright, so I've got uh Soundgarden for us right now. This is fell on Black Days. Oh, I'm familiar with these guys too, so and I like this song, so you know the song? Yeah, I do. Okay, well let's check it out. Why did you play it? I already am to illness.

SPEAKER_09 10:33

Seemed to greet me with a smile. So, back to the night, I'm on the state when I kill the ride, when I kill the right, that is the master. Don't do all the time, and don't die.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

Oh, make me over. I'm all I wanna be.

SPEAKER_07 14:53

I walk in study demonology to be the day I'll look at your bell that's like You better watch that way, you don't let the way You wanna put a meat When I'm gonna sell it Now I'm gonna sell it And that was Celebrity Skin by Hole, led by the controversial Courtney Love.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

Do you know much about Courtney Love?

SPEAKER_03 17:29

Not a lot.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

I mean I know the name, but she uh she was with Kurt Cobain up until he passed away. And uh she's controversial for a lot of reasons, she's really outspoken, she does really um questionable antics, you know, sometimes insulting, sometimes they make you think about the state of the world. But I think I think the biggest thing that she's controversial for is that she's uh really struggled with her drug addiction, and a lot of people potentially blame her for encouraging Kurt Cobain to get into drugs and potentially make him more depressed. And I don't know if that's true, but I did just want to note that. I I think Courtney Love is uh is a very controversial figure. Speaking of controversial, just the way you said that. Yeah, I don't want to say one way or another, but I felt like I should bring that up. Speaking of controversial, I do kind of have a uh controversial movie to talk about.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Oh, I can hardly wait. Rant away!

SPEAKER_05 18:26

How about a good ranting? As ranters go, Ren's one of the best, whether it be a movie, TV series, short film, book. Who has time to read? Hmm, probably not a book. Here she is with the rant of the day.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

All right, so I feel like my original purpose for the Wren Rant was that I could talk about new movies so people could go out and see them. But I also use it as an excuse to talk about um big deal movies that are potentially really old that I've seen for the first time. So I watched a controversial film, Eraser Head, by a surrealist cult classic art film by David Lynch. I think on the last show I talked about a David Lynch uh movie. It is a black and white, depressing nightmare of a film about a man whose ex-girlfriend gives birth to a very sick, deformed baby. And it has a lot of surreal imagery, strange performances, uh, but it's overall about the fear and anxiety of becoming a parent, not only a parent too early, but becoming a parent to a child that is incredibly unhealthy and that requires a lot of looking after.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

It's a slow burn, it's uh very vibe, it's very vibey um in terms of like you're not supposed to watch it for the straightforward plot. Even though there is a straightforward plot you can follow, it's it's more of a feeling. The whole movie gives you a feeling. Think of it as like a really long extended nightmare. Got it. Uh I found it incredibly disturbing and upsetting. And if you're into artsy films and cult classics, I say definitely check it out. It's it's one of the best in that genre. Um, if you're a sensitive viewer, don't watch it because it's really weird.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

I can be very sensitive.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

I know you can, Dave. That's why I warn you about these things. So uh that's a racerhead. All right. What isn't that special?

SPEAKER_05 20:28

Every week, a new rant. She's relentless. I mean, relentless.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

I feel like this music doesn't quite fit for the vibe of a racerhead, but it's still a classic Hollywood film in terms of like cult classics.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

Alright, I'll have to check it out. I mean, I have I I would say probably 75% of the films that you have uh reviewed, I have enjoyed.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

Okay, that's gonna go down after you watch a Racerhead. Okay. That percentage will go down.

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Alright. You know where it's available, not that we will advertise for them.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

Uh it is available on Max.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

Max, okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Yeah, and that's not a call to action. That's just letting you know where it is.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

Okay, great. And you know, it's Are you sure that's not a call to action?

SPEAKER_01 21:12

I did not say anything about Max other than what is on it.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

Okay, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

But I think Eraserhead kind of works for the grunge aesthetic because it's it takes place in uh a really industrial city. It's like a dirty movie. Everything's dirty and grungy in uh for our show today. It's perfect. You didn't even know it.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

Yeah, that was absolutely I you know I'm gonna tell you. Is it w what do we call this?

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Um feeling grungy.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

Feeling grungy, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Because a big part of grunge was the fashion, and a lot of that was like dirty hair and ripped jeans and and old holy t shirts and flannel.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

I can't go long with my hair dirty. I mean, I can a couple of days, but it was long.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

Yeah. This song I don't know if it's like strictly grunge, but to me it has a grunge vibe. This is the smashing pumpkins and a sort of softer grunge vibe.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

I love smashing pumpkins.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

You say you're not a huge fan of grunge, but you like all these bands so well.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

I love these guys.

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This is the today.

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Alright, not tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Today.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

Give him a game! JSJE, Farmington, New Mexico, New Mexico. Your Sunday morning will never be the same.

SPEAKER_04 29:16

My DJ has a first name as D A B I D. My DJ has a second name as M-I-L-L-S. Oh, I like to listen every day. And if you ask me why, I'll say, because my DJ is so full of B-O-L-O-G-NA.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

You're listening to the Wake Up Call on K SJE Farmington.

SPEAKER_10 30:07

Oh Feel Maybe he'll see a little better set in Aiza. This is that he sees that I'm gonna eat that familiar winner, no weird as I was a water on the winner on this way on the leader, all the same.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

That was not a good Pearl Jam impression, but you know I'm feeling a bit grungy, but I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Me too, yeah. It's never felt so good to be so grungy. Yeah, to be so grungy.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

Well, there's a couple of things I'm excited about. First of all, our studio is almost complete. Almost completely complete.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

No broad day, and I kind of focused it on like the burn your bra era feminine. I love it. It's about the burn your bra era.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

My mom was the ultimate feminist. I'm gonna tell you anything.

SPEAKER_01 35:59

What I was gonna talk about in the show too is uh like is burning your brain, did they literally want you to do that, or was it more of like a metaphorical women actually did, I believe in the 60s.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

I think they actually did, but I I think it was more metaphorical than we do.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

I think so too. And and stay tuned because I think it's kind of a rabbit hole in uh learning about the burning your brain movement. I learned a lot of new things, so stay tuned for the movie.

SPEAKER_03 36:26

Because it is uh celebrating that.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Which I know you're all too excited about. So that last song we played was uh by uh Grunge Pioneer Pearl Jamie. And then before that, we played another Grand Pioneer Mud Honey with Hunter. Like the hair metal rock of the 1980s into the more like you look at some of the previous decades like Death Leopard and and uh Quiet Riot and Motley Crue, and they're all like, whereas Grind was a little bit more like poetry and cry. And maybe thrash about too.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Yeah, I was gonna say, there's a little thrashing going on in here somewhere. Alright, well we had another tune on it, so we got coming up.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Uh we got, ooh, this is a good one. This is Temple of the Dog with Hunger Strike.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Oh, strike away, hunger. I am getting it. Can you hear my stomach?

SPEAKER_01 38:17

Yeah, I can hear a growling.

SPEAKER_09 38:39

But I can be on the swim source. And the farm baby sleeps on kiss.

SPEAKER_10 39:34

When I can't be on the mouth, when my heart's already songs, I don't know.

unknown 41:54

I'm going hungry.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

Yeah, that was Alice and Chains with Man in the Box.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

Man in the Box. I've have felt like that.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Yeah, me too. It's a it's a relatable story.

SPEAKER_03 46:53

Except you would be woman in the box.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Mm-hmm. Well, person in the box.

SPEAKER_03 46:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:58

It's all about equality, Dave.

SPEAKER_03 46:59

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

That let me say, that's just something that would make me go, hmm. Really? Yeah.

unknown 47:06

Things to make you. Things that make you go, hmm. Things to make go.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

Now it's time for Dave's things that make you go, hmm.

SPEAKER_03 47:17

Wow, you got my own little Oh man. You deserve it. You're giving me goosebumps over here. Alright, there are more bacteria cells in your body than human cells.

SPEAKER_08 47:26

What?

SPEAKER_03 47:27

Yes. The average human is uh around 56% bacteria. This was discovered in 2016 study and is far less than the earlier estimates of 90%.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 47:40

Because bacteria is so light. However, by weight, each person is over 99.7% human.

SPEAKER_01 47:51

I guess that's why I don't I'm not so afraid of germs. Like I know there's people who are very germ phobic. I'm not germ phobic because that's just who I am. I'm mostly bacteria.

unknown 48:01

Things to make go things to make you.

SPEAKER_01 48:08

I just wanted to finish it off with that. Things that make you go, hmm.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

Yes, exactly. Well, thank you for that. That was uh that was great. Once again, then I feel very sp I'm feeling very special. Not grungy, special.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

Oh good. Well, you can be special and grungy.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

Okay, so logged back to really feeling grungy.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

Yeah, well, grunge, you know, was uh really made Seattle at the time take off. Not only because the Microsoft Corporation was stationed there and that huge growth during the nineties, uh, but grunge uh made uh Seattle a magnet for reccu record executives looking for the next big thing. As the media spread the word, grunge became an international fad, and American department stores soon had sections of grunge clothing. Which isn't that like goes against grunge, you know.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

Sounds like it might.

SPEAKER_01 48:55

Yeah, you want to be anti-establishment. Oh well. Well, eventually grunge faded, partly because of the tragic death in 1994 of Nirvana's Kurt Cobain, who had become a generational spokesman, but also because of the disappointing record sales by many of the bands from Seattle, who never did become the next big thing. Nevertheless, grunge played an enormous role in the moving alternative rock into the pop mainstream.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Sweet. Well, I'm liking a lot of it. I mean, uh maybe I don't know if like maybe toler I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 49:30

I don't know the right word, but it's not what you would personally throw on.

SPEAKER_03 49:34

You know, if I was taking off on a trip, personally I would put on the wake-up call and listen to past shows. As you should. Yeah, and you can get that at interwestconcepts.com. All one word, all overcase, I-n-t, r-w-e-s-t-c-o-n C E P T S dot com.

SPEAKER_01 49:50

Perfect!

SPEAKER_03 49:52

Good stuff, my dude. Yeah, all right. Well, listen, I'm really I I am enjoying it though. I mean, I'm enjoying learning more about it. I did not realize that it um that it uh actually originated out of uh Seattle, Washington.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Yeah, that's I mean, I only really remember that fact. I read it on Britannica, I'm getting all that info from Britannica. Uh, but I also remembered that fact because what other place in the United States could birth such a intense, angsty music other than rainy Seattle.

SPEAKER_03 50:22

You know, I was only up there for short spurts at a time, you know, maybe three or four days max. Uh and it did rain a lot. It didn't uh there wasn't a lot of sunshine, but the s the food was just spectacular, especially if you like seafood.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

Oh yeah, any coastal city.

SPEAKER_03 50:36

Yeah, exactly. And uh I never I did not really notice it. I enjoyed the rain. I mean, coming out of New Mexico where we don't get a lot of rain.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

Um and at that time I was living in Arizona, which uh you know only monsoon season was the only time you saw rain. So I really didn't mind it. Um and you know, nobody was complaining about it raining. Yeah, they're used to it. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, it was a nice it was uh and I went to that place and they've been on Facebook. They actually I think were kind of world famous, but they throw the fish to one another. Oh with the fish market. Yeah, the fish market. I went in there and uh Yeah, I really had a good time. Had some raw oysters from there, it was very good.

SPEAKER_01 51:15

Oh boy, that's where I draw the line with seafood draw raw oysters.

SPEAKER_03 51:20

Oh, I love raw oysters.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

You know, I went to Seattle as a teenager for at the time it was one of the country's biggest anime conventions, SakuraCon. Oh right. Sakura means a cherry blossom. But uh yeah, I was I was only there for a short time and it wasn't particularly rainy when I was there. It was cloudy, but not rainy. Um I had a blast. I went to like a triple decker, three-story tall arcade, which was really cool.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_01 51:48

And at the time, I'm not sure if this is still the case, Seattle was one of the places in the country that had like the highest population of Japanese immigrants. So that's a fun fact about Seattle for now.

SPEAKER_03 51:58

No kidding. Well it is it's definitely a neat place. I think that fish market might be in Portland, but they're all there close together. I mean, we traveled through all, I don't remember exactly what town that fish market was in, but yeah, we had a good time over it. Well, and I was with my boss, so Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_01 52:13

Yeah, you know that it was fun then, because if you were with your boss and you still had a good time.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 52:19

Yeah, go Seattle, go Seattle.

SPEAKER_03 52:21

We had some extra time. He goes, Let's go see some sights. Nice. I said, Do you like fish? Not particularly but I do want to go to the fish market, and I'm like, all right, I'm down.

SPEAKER_01 52:30

It's like world famous. When you say that, I don't know the name of it, but I I yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a world famous fish market there. But they have things other than fish.

SPEAKER_03 52:37

Oh, yeah, there's all kinds it's it's a neat area for sure. It's uh actually that's where my brother was before he passed. That's where he was planning on retiring, is up around Portland, Seattle area.

SPEAKER_01 52:47

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 52:49

Hey, um, while we still have the time, I'm gonna play us one more song.

SPEAKER_03 52:52

Why don't you play us another song? Oh, you got it. Have I been talking too much?

SPEAKER_01 52:56

No, not too much. I just the right amount, Dave. Don't you don't you worry about it. All right, this is Fugazi with the waiting.

SPEAKER_03 53:05

Oh, I just want to say Fugazi. Let me do let me introduce the band. Fugazi!

SPEAKER_09 53:08

Fugazi, baby. I'm playing a big surprise. I've got a five day mistake.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

I think that song kind of shows Grunge's punk roots.

SPEAKER_03 56:00

I would say so. That was real punky.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Yeah, real punky. And that's kind of the trouble I had with finding songs for this uh show. I didn't realize grunge, the movement and and the genre. Uh I didn't realize that it didn't it it only lasted about four or five years.

SPEAKER_08 56:15

Right.

SPEAKER_01 56:15

When I think of grunge, I think it just took over the nineties. And of course, even after the like peak of its popularity ended, um people still make grunge music.

SPEAKER_03 56:26

Like right. I I realize that.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

And Pearl Jam kept making stuff, and then of course the drummer for Nirvana um went on to star The Foo Fighters, which is a little bit more alternative rock than grunge, but yeah, the history of grunge lives on and it's still it's still with us.

SPEAKER_03 56:45

Well, I I enjoyed the show. I mean, it's not something that I would of course I will.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

Here's the deal you respect it.

SPEAKER_03 56:52

Oh, more yes. Very I have an even more respect for some grunge. And I and for me it was extremely interesting finding out that it was out of uh Washington State or Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 57:04

Seattle that's pretty cool. Hey, real quick, let me do I'm ready. The Zen of Ren.

SPEAKER_05 57:12

Prepare your mind. For now, it is time for the Zen of Red.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

This one comes to us from the ever-controversial Courtney Love.

SPEAKER_03 57:23

Oh, sweet.

SPEAKER_01 57:24

This quote might be a little controversial. Don't be bitter and mean because you don't fit in. It's a gift. Look at you. You've got your individuality. You don't have the hurt instinct. You can read Nietzsche and understand it. Only dumb people are happy.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

You know what I'm laughing, but um that's right.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if every happy person is dumb. Some people are so smart that they've managed to figure out how to be happy, but I think there is something.

SPEAKER_03 57:58

Till that part about the dumb. I I I'm I'm being serious. Um of course we're doing our best to try to promote being people being smiling and laughing and being happy, not uh look for the positive things in the world and not the negative things.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Yes, and I just think there's something to be said about if you do struggle with being depressed or or feeling like you don't fit in, that could be a sign that you're pretty dang smart.

SPEAKER_03 58:25

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 58:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:26

That's a oh man.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

Well, we are just about out of time. I think it's good that we ended with these words of wisdom. And uh I hope you have a great week, Dave.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

Yeah, you too, Rand. We'll see you next week.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

Oh, we got oh, that's right! No bra! No bra, October. See ya, folks.

SPEAKER_06 58:45

Alrighty tidy, that's it for this week. Don't fret, though. They'll be back next week with a whole new thing. The wake up call is sole property of Inner West Concepts. For permission to use any or all of the shows, please contact them at InnoSconcepts.com. Ren and David would love to hear from you as well with any input you care to offer. Until next time.

SPEAKER_03 59:08

Be excellent to each other. This week's show has been made possible in part by Traeger's Bar and the Doghouse.

SPEAKER_01 59:17

And the old poop group.