Conquering Phobias

Hosts: Lauren "Ren" Harris & David "daGeneral" Mills

Announcers: Zeb McClusky & Wink Dinkerson

Executive Producer: InterWest Concepts - interwestconcepts.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

And now for something completely different.

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Dave, it's uh April, but I'm I'm feeling a little spooky today. I'm I'm feeling a little afraid.

SPEAKER_08 0:09

Are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:10

Yeah. You know what? Let's do a show. It it'll be a bit of a throwback. This is back before we were on KSJE. But uh I have a show where the theme is all phobias, things that people are afraid of.

SPEAKER_08 0:22

Oh, like hides or spiders. Or other women.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Yeah, or other people in general.

SPEAKER_08 0:29

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's conquer our fears today.

SPEAKER_08 0:33

All together.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Showers, flowers, and then, hmm. Oh, I don't know. What I do know, the one constant, ran and David on K SJE. It's the wake-up call. Grab a beverage, turn it up, sit back, and let's let them do it to it.

SPEAKER_12 1:30

I'm just an average man with an average life. I will be from nine to five. I used to be left alone in my average room. But why do I always feel like I'm in the twin?

SPEAKER_03 1:46

I always feel that it's my I always feel that's what you just want to tie to real time.

SPEAKER_12 2:09

People call me on the phone. I'm trying to avoid people don't need to see me from my eyes. I don't know. What up this shower? I'm afraid to wash my hair. Cause I'm gonna put my eyes and find someone standing there. It'll sound crazy. Just a dog.

SPEAKER_03 2:28

When you did start to find me, I always feel like I always feel the film. I wonder who's watching the spin I've always been I have a spin, but it's punchy I always feel that somebody's watching me. I always feel that, somebody's watching me. Can I give my pride to see? Somebody's watching me.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

Somebody's watching me by you asked who it was. It's it's uh by a man or a group named Rockwell.

SPEAKER_08 4:54

You know, it it sounded like they were saying, I want to feel like somebody's watching me.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

I uh could be. Or is it I always feel like I think it's I always feel like somebody's watching me. Which is why I played it for today's show, the phobia show.

SPEAKER_08 5:08

You know, that's kind of funny because today I swear I heard voices as I was getting around the house today and everything stop and look, and I could I couldn't find anybody. Could have been. I'm not afraid of ghosts. I mean, you know. I I feel like if when my time's up, my time is up, and no matter what, you know. Yeah, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Yeah. If it's gonna be a ghost that brings it, well then that's how it is.

SPEAKER_08 5:42

When I was younger, I would, you know, I had my fear of ghosts, but I don't know. I'll hear something in the middle of the night go bump or something.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Yeah. No, you've made peace with ghosts. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 5:52

I wonder I wonder what a phobia of ghosts would be if I had to be.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

I'm sure it's like spectrophobia or something. I totally made that up. I'm gonna look it up and then we'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_08 6:01

But I am David and my spooky friend Rand is at the helm there.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

And we're uh playing songs where the titles are kind of, you know, and maybe the subject matter are reminiscent of phobias. It's mostly just uh an excuse to use a playlist that I was pretty proud of that I made early on in our partnership on this show, and I wanted to reuse it so I could show it off. It's been edited a little bit. I took out some songs that I know I've also played a time or two again. It's it's fresh enough for you listening out there.

SPEAKER_08 6:35

So I'm sure as we go, we're gonna discuss each and every each other's phobias as we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 6:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

We gotta be careful putting that stuff out there. You know when we're honest on this show. One phobia I used to have that I would say I don't quite have anymore, is uh arachnophobia. You know arachnophobia. Arachnophobia.

SPEAKER_08 6:58

I think I should Is that spiders or it's the fear of spiders? Yeah. Um you you you have them now, that's exactly.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Honestly, if you want to get over your fear of spiders, jumping spiders are great because they they are just so cute. They they get rid of all of your fears.

SPEAKER_08 7:14

Yeah, I've seen those. They're pretty I've seen yours. They're pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

They got big old eyes and they move around more intelligently. Anyway, I could go on and on about my love of spiders. Instead, I'll let no doubt take over. This is spider webs.

SPEAKER_08 7:25

I got a story about getting something to get you over a phobia, too. We'll talk about that.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Needle in a haystack? You were giving such a soulful performance. I didn't I should have let the people at home hear it.

SPEAKER_08 14:30

Was I really?

SPEAKER_00 14:31

You were! I thought you were doing really good with the the velvettes there and their song Velvettes. Isn't that a cute name? That was their song Needle in a Haystack, which is to represent tripanophobia. The fear of needles. Tripanophobia.

SPEAKER_08 14:46

You know, if you said tripanophobia to meet right off the bat, I think you have the fear of a frying pan. Being chased by one from your ex.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 15:00

I don't know, you may be too young, but it was amazing. Hitting your spouse over the head with a frying pan.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

That was they do that also in the movie from what, 2010, uh Tangled, the Disney movie. Where Rapunzel, her her main weapon of choice is a frying pan, and she smacks people around with it. So it's still the trope is still very much alive.

SPEAKER_08 15:18

Okay, super. Well, I never got chased by a frying pan.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

No, that's too bad. You never had that classic experience.

SPEAKER_08 15:25

Actually, I don't think I've never been threatened with anything. That's good. From a woman, that is. Well, other than cutting me off.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Well, other than yes.

SPEAKER_08 15:35

Other than the emotional. That's right. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Oh man, that's that's making me think. That's making me go, hmm.

SPEAKER_08 15:40

Oh my gosh. That's my cue, right? Yeah. I'm ready to think.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

What is David's attempt at being profound? Things that make you go, hmm.

SPEAKER_10 15:52

Things that make you go hmm.

SPEAKER_08 15:56

I got a good one, I'm gonna tell you right now. Did you know? Did you know? If this doesn't make you go, hmm, I don't know what will. Okay, try me. And I know that I I I can attest to this because I spent some time in Minnesota.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Okay, Minnesota?

SPEAKER_08 16:11

Yeah, and then that'll all come to hand here in just a second. Cows move with regional accents.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

That's incredible.

SPEAKER_08 16:19

Oh my god. In small populations uh such as herds, you would encounter an identifiable dialectical dialectical dialectical variations. Explains the UK professor in a uh article for the BBC News. In other words, you can take the cows out of Jersey. So I'm gonna carry the cows in Minnesota and go, hmm.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

Get out. You have to leave. Hello, everybody. This is now Ren's show all by yourself. David made such a dumb joke that I had to fire him.

SPEAKER_08 17:02

Oh, my son-in-law is gonna love that.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

No, that's pretty good though. And you know, I'm from Nebraska, which has a lot of cows there too. So next time I'm there, I'll pay closer attention to how the cows sound there versus how they sound here. And it's it's one of those interests.

SPEAKER_08 17:16

Interesting, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 17:17

Yeah, very interesting. And I I know that there's such things as like culture among even like primate groups. Different primate groups from you know different parts of the world that have slightly different behaviors because they've just developed there and they've learned it from their their peer group. And that's one of the cool things that I learned in anthropology that really separates us from the animals is our ability to share information in long distances in a conceptual manner so that we have even all over the world we have similar habits. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_08 17:48

It makes perfect sense. Well listen, if you'd like to share how your cows move in your area, give us a line. Drop us a line at nwestconcepts.com on one word all over case. I and T E R W E S T C O N C E P T S. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

And uh today on the K H E uh wake-up call, we are talking about phobias. And this song has no lyrics, but it kind of captures the essence of how it feels to fly. It is the Beatles, so it'll be good, don't you worry.

SPEAKER_08 18:19

Okay, have you ever heard of the worry? I think I was looking at the What is it?

SPEAKER_00 18:25

What? Me? Worry? Yeah, exactly. That's what we were saying earlier. Um I think a lot of people have a phobia of flying, myself a little bit included. But when flying is good, it's beautiful, it's easy, it's breezy, and I think this song sort of captures that vibe. The good parts of flying. Take it away, Beatles. I'm flying now. This is a perfect song for it. Always been one of my favorite instrumentals. You know, you can tell even though there's no lyrics in it, it uh it reads unmistakably as the Beatles.

SPEAKER_08 21:04

I've never ever heard that song.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

Yeah. It's from Magical Mystery Tour.

SPEAKER_08 21:11

Oh, okay. Alright, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yeah. I was in um I was in Smith. And I was just listening to the music they play there, and usually they play like top 40 stuff, you know, Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars, Lady. Uh but they started playing Magical Mystery Tour by the Beatles. Oh wow. And I was so pleasantly surprised. I wondered Okay, somebody's obviously hooked up their personal phone to the speakers at Smith because there's no way that people would play Magical Mystery Tour. It's a beloved song, it's a good song, but it's it's not like one of their more popular ones.

SPEAKER_08 21:47

I I caught a story the other day uh on television and it was about uh John Lennon being uh something about a song he wrote people finding all these hidden lyrics, you know. Meanings in these songs. Yes. And on one particular So John sat down and wrote a completely ridiculous tune. I don't remember what it what it was, but um but yeah, it has makes absolutely no sense. And he says, and I think his quote was, let him figure that one out.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

It was for, if I'm not mistaken, I am the walrus.

SPEAKER_08 22:21

Yes, that's what it was.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

Which is also from Magical Mystery Tour. And yeah, he heard that there were um college classes where people were analyzing beetles in there, and he was like, Let him figure this one out. There's a great picture now that we're speaking about the Beatles.

SPEAKER_08 22:36

What upset him was they had read so much into one of the other songs. He'd seen something where they had read way too much crap in there, and it upset him. He's like, Well, I'll fix him.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Yeah. Uh he I think John really was kind of afraid of being overanalyzed.

SPEAKER_08 22:53

He was. You know, i which is sort of the the Which is weird because look who he ended up with and and and how he put himself out there in the world.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Yeah, exactly. No, but John always read to me as kind of insecure, so I have a lot of sympathy for John, even though I know he wasn't the best husband, he wasn't the best father. Um I'm always of the mind that he never really got the chance to fix his image, you know, because he was taken out of considering his project. Too bad. Speaking of fears.

SPEAKER_08 23:20

Hey, um, real quick, you what's it called if you have a fear of snakes?

SPEAKER_00 23:25

I don't know. I've been looking up the ones we just did. Like I looked up Flying, which is Aviophobia, the fear of flying in aviation. And then this next song I looked it up. Um Deep Water by Strawberry Switchblade. Uh it's aquaphobia, the fear of water. But fear of snakes, I'd have to look that up. What are you asking?

SPEAKER_08 23:44

Well, I had a daughter, a stepdaughter, who was afraid of snakes. I mean definitely afraid of snakes. So you know what I did? We wouldn't know the snake.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

Not a bad way to combat it, especially if it's a huge little snake.

SPEAKER_08 23:57

A little corn snake, it's real cute.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

A phetophobia, a fear of snakes.

SPEAKER_08 24:06

A phetophobia. Yeah, that sounds like a fear phobia.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Yeah, you're afraid of feet.

SPEAKER_08 24:10

I have a food fetish, but not a photophobia.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

And my truth fears have come to have come to reality. This is our segue to the next song. Like I said, this is to represent aquaphobia, the fear of water, specifically deep water. Yeah, I love water, but this is deep water, you know, like being in a deep lake. You do?

SPEAKER_08 24:30

Yeah, I might be a little bit more apprehensive now that I'm older and struggle a little bit. A little bit more cautious. Yeah, the deeper the better. I know. I dove off a cliff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Deep water is nice, but it you just never know what's gonna be underneath there. So I definitely have a fear of deep water myself.

SPEAKER_08 24:49

I even had my toes take away all the time.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

And you didn't even mind because of the uh aforementioned fetish.

SPEAKER_09 24:56

Exactly.

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SPEAKER_14 31:35

What do you see? For things that I just cannot see. I pretend to be cool with me, wanna believe. Do it on my own without my heart, I'm asleep. I'm running, I'm running, catch up with me life. Where is a lot that I look at a five? It's all in me, can't you see? Why can't you why can't you see? It's all in me.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

Turn off the mat, turn off the night. That was Nelly Fritato with probably my first favorite song. I was telling you about it, Dave. Uh, Turn Off the Light, which is in this show about phobias, is to represent nyctophobia or scotophobia. Nyctophobia is more specifically a phobia of the night, and scotophobia is more of a fear of darkness in general. So, like a dark attic or a dark basement. What phobia do you have nowadays? Um, I wouldn't know the name. I I'm probably claustrophobic. I really don't like being in small spaces. That's my biggest issue with flying.

SPEAKER_08 34:15

Have you ever had a have you ever had a uh what do they call those tube?

SPEAKER_00 34:20

The pneumatic tube or oh the MRI? MRI, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 34:24

Yeah, no, I've never had one of those. I wish as big as I am, it's really tight on my belly.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

You gotta breathe through that kind of a thing. That's all I can picture.

SPEAKER_08 34:34

Well, I was just singing songs. I think I we I talked about it on one show. But yeah, just in my head going through all kinds of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Yeah, well because while these big heavy magnets above you interesting knocking noises and now that there's probably a name for a fear of MRIs in general.

SPEAKER_08 34:56

Probably. Probably. Um do you have any fear of anything else for sure?

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Oh, definitely. Um I have a fear of well, I can't think of it. What about you? Like, give me a little moment.

SPEAKER_08 35:10

Okay, I I I you know, I've a lot of things have been racing in my mind, but honestly, if I am I'm being totally honest with myself, my biggest fear right now.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Oh, that's kind of poetic.

SPEAKER_08 35:25

Yeah. So there's there was that's why I don't want to let the old man in. You know, just all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Really, really started when when when when we when to when it went to the 70, when I hit 70 last year, like oh my god, I'm old. But uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

You don't seem old in in spirit.

SPEAKER_08 35:47

You know, I've got the juvenile mind for sure. There you go, that always helps.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

Childish, more like young at heart. That's right. And uh, you know, growing old is such a strange thing. I mean, I can't even imagine. I'm only I'm only 30 in the grand scheme of things. I'm still pretty young. But like I think aging is an incredibly uh what's the word? Uh respectable or not even respectable. It's something you need to respect because you've survived this long, all the wisdom that you've gained. It's cool, it's awesome. Not everybody gets to be that old. But at the same time, from a physical standpoint, it's probably difficult because your body can't do exactly everything it used to do.

SPEAKER_08 36:24

When I was thirty, I really didn't ha wasn't afraid of anything. At this age, I'm afraid of everything. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you didn't you didn't have the perspective yet.

SPEAKER_08 36:35

Well, my mindset too, and and it's talking about um stage right, for instance. Um I people have always said to me, I don't know how you do that. I get up on stage and I just tell you I gotta suck it up big time. It's a psych it's a psych out thing to get up there.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

You get into the head space and then you can go.

SPEAKER_08 36:55

If I don't get there quite right, then I do a terrible job. An awful job because I'm feeling insecure, I'm not feeling positive, I'm not any of that. So yeah, it's just uh but I have had stage fray. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 37:08

And it stems back from stuff that happened in high school and because I used to do I used to do when I was in uh Littler in uh Missouri, I used to have neighborhood shows, you know, and invite all the neighborhood moms back in the days when moms really didn't work. Yeah, they could just usher in the kids and have a little day. So we'd have a little dance, and I was usually uh singing or doing something stupid. Um But I wasn't afraid of that, you know. My mom used to call me a um what'd she uh a show off, you know, a big show off.

SPEAKER_00 37:40

Yeah. But nowadays I don't were you only afraid in hindsight about what you did, or where was there a moment where what you performed genuinely embarrassed you and kind of traumatized you?

SPEAKER_08 37:54

Um That's uh that's a six million dollar question.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Isn't it?

SPEAKER_08 38:01

Like I say, if I'm not confident, people can feel that too. Yes, you know, on stage. It doesn't matter if they're a foot away or 32 feet away. Yeah, they can feel that confidence when they come out. That's what American Idol, all those talent shows are all about. That's what they're all about. Yeah. So um just I have to really psych myself up to get on stage. I mean, you and I remember see the music from the soda. I've done it I did it for ten years uh without you, and then we did it for a couple years. I haven't been able to do it recently because uh a little crippled. But um I have to psych myself up to get on stage. That's valid. And I think I probably was relying on you a little bit if I think about it. Oh, and I have such bad stage fright. So I wouldn't even want to let you know. Oh, okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Yeah, because I when you said that I me coming on there helped you with your confidence a bit too, I I always felt bad because I get bad stage fright too, unless I know my lines.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

I am a theater person. If I know my lines, if I know my blocking and I'm confident and have rehearsed that, I can do anything on stage. You know, in between. The improv I can do. But just straight improv, not knowing what I'm gonna say and hyping other people up and being uh a host, that's so hard for me. So just to know that my faith in you is what emboldened you really helps because boy do I have faith in you no matter what, Dave. You're the best.

SPEAKER_08 39:29

And when I'm on, I can really be on. I can be funny, I don't know where it comes from, it just appears. It just appears but the confidence has got to be in there all that. So I really like doing the show about the fear of different things. I would just say to people, what are you afraid of? Are we missing something you might be afraid of? I'd like to explore that even further. Got me really curious now. Um so if you have something to drop us an email. We'll send you some swag. We got all kinds of great swag coming. So we'll send you some. Drop us an email, interwest concepts.com.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Because there are some there are some rare fears out there. There's some people who have some serious, serious phobias. Um, I was just looking at we were talking about it, the fear of aging aging, which is called Jurassicophobia. Of course. Almost sounds like Jurassic Phobia, fear of dinosaurs or something. And then Stage Fright, uh, it probably has a Latin name, but I'm not finding it. It's just also known as performance anxiety. But like I said, as long as I ha I know my lines, I'm fine and I can do it. But uh it's just the uncertainty that scares me. Sort of like this next song. I'm gonna play this song and then we're gonna do a Renrant. I'm gonna talk about a movie that I saw that also kind of deals with fear a little bit. Okay. Fear of marrying the wrong person. Oh, okay. Um, this is the fear of not being able to get away. This is the fear of not being able to escape, maybe a little claustrophobia, which is what I have. This is the Isley brothers with nowhere to run.

SPEAKER_08 40:52

Nowhere to hide either.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

No. Not no place to be found.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

Rants on the mall.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

Here I am ranting. I don't do it too often anymore, but I try to do it whenever I see a new movie. I saw a new movie. Movie recently, uh released obviously in 2026. It's called The Drama, directed by Christopher Borgley. It stars Zendaya and Robert Pattinson. And for those who know this name, it's produced by Ari Astor. Um, though this is not a horror movie. No, no, no, no. You don't know Ari Aster.

SPEAKER_08 44:18

None of those that he does crazy.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

He does crazy weird movies. And his most famous ones are horror movies, but this isn't a horror movie. It's definitely a black comedy. Uh the drama is about a happily engaged couple whose relationship is tested by an unexpected revelation during the week before their wedding. So basically, it's the week before their wedding, they're hanging out with their best man and their maid of honor. And the subject of what's the worst thing you ever done comes up. And the bride is a little drunk and she admits to what she did, and it causes waves throughout her whole life. Um, I enjoyed this movie a lot. It's a very solid dark dramedy. Like it's drama, it's about people and relationships, but it's also funny. It unexpectedly made me laugh out loud at points. Um, it makes you think about what you do in that situation, whether you you were either party and about human nature in general. Uh it tackled just a warning, it tackles some deeply dark subjects, but in an accessible way. It doesn't rub it in your face, and it doesn't try to make you feel one way or the other about anything. It just shows the situation and lets you come to your own conclusions. I thought it was perfectly cast. Zendaya is uh I love her as an actress. She's she's a new movie star in my mind, you know, like the advent of the new movie star. Robert Pattinson was weird and funny and and out of his depth as the groom who learns that his uh fiance is not who he thought it was. Um they have great chemistry, and even though some of the editing was a little abstract, you'll be able to it'll make you feel smarter for watching it. You'll watch it and get to the end and go, I understood that. I'm one of the smart cinema people. So see the drama, I recommend it. Okay, sounds good to me.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

She wanted it. Ask and G OJ delivers. She's got her finger on the pulse of the entertainment scene, and she loves to share. That's Ren Ransing for yet another week.

SPEAKER_08 46:21

Put it up, bump, put it up, bump, put it up, bump, bump, bum, bum, bum, bum.

SPEAKER_00 46:26

Talk about phobias, marrying the wrong person. That's a pretty big phobia of mine, I think. Though I think I'm in good hands with Derek, you know, the guy I've been with for ten years.

SPEAKER_08 46:35

Well, I better hope I am. Yeah, I I don't, you know, I know Derek okay. I don't mean I don't know him obviously as well as you do, but um yeah. I uh I wish that you guys seem to get along well. I yeah, that's what I look for.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

So he's a good guy. Um he is a bit of a clown in his own description. So that must be a No, I was gonna say because he likes to juggle. He likes to dress up. Speaking of theater earlier, he was he played uh a character in Midsummer Night's Dream with me a couple years ago. He really is a nice performer. But wouldn't you be surprised is there are some people who are afraid of clowns.

SPEAKER_08 47:15

Uh no, I would not be a bit surprised.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

Because they are kind of creepy.

SPEAKER_08 47:21

Did you ever make it little kids would run up and slug me in the stomach?

SPEAKER_00 47:25

What?

SPEAKER_08 47:26

Yeah, and it used to really bother me. Yeah, that's when I was clowning. It used to really bother me, but I found out later it's because they were so afraid.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Yes, they were afraid.

SPEAKER_08 47:34

I didn't understand.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

I didn't dislike clowns as a kid, but I do have a memory of a clown at they were at a mall. They were performing at a mall and they would not leave me alone in it. That's where I performed. But they maybe it was you, Dave. Well, continuing on our theme of clowns and phobias, I'm gonna play Shirley Bassey's rendition of Send in the Clowns.

SPEAKER_08 47:56

Oh, yes, let's send in the clown or two.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

They won't hurt you, I swear. Not the mean looking ones, though. They just want to make you laugh. That's right.

SPEAKER_13 48:05

Isn't it rich? Are we a pair? Me here at last on the ground, and you in mid send in the cloud, isn't it bliss? Don't you approve? One who keeps tearing around, one who can't move. Where are the clouds? Send in the clouds just when I stop obscuring us finally knowing that I wanted was you making my entrance again with my usual. Sure my lines. No one is there. Don't you love us? My fault, I fear. I thought that you want what I want. Sorry, my dear. But where are the clones? Quick sending the clones. Don't bother where he's rich, isn't it queer? Losing my timing this late in my career and where are clums? There ought to be clums. Well, maybe next year.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Send him the clowns. I know you're not ready, Dave. There's gotta be a fear of not being prepared. But I was gonna say, the fear of clowns, there's a name for it because it's so popular these days, is called cholophobia. Is the term for an abnormal fear of clowns, which can cause intense anxiety and physical symptoms like erasing heart and sweating when someone encounters clowns or even imagines them. Um I think it's almost like a trendy fear, if that's possible. Because, you know, it came out and then there was the killer clown craze of 2016, where people would dress up like cat clowns and go wander the streets and be menacing and creepy. I don't know. I feel like fear of clowns. How often do you really go in front of a clown and are afraid of it? It doesn't happen that often. Clowns aren't as common as they used to be.

SPEAKER_08 52:14

No, you don't see them that mime. I mean, I do follow that guy that's at SeaWorld and has the he's like he's a mime. I mean that's in a category of a clown, but I do follow that guy. Tom, I think is his name. Absolutely adore him. He's funny.

SPEAKER_00 52:27

Oh yeah, he does those funny little bits with the people as they're sitting down in between the show. That's cute. Yeah, I saw him. There was um a mom who was carrying the bag and she was carrying her phone and she was carrying the baby.

SPEAKER_08 52:39

Yeah, he took it all away.

SPEAKER_00 52:40

And he's like, hey, hubby, come here.

SPEAKER_08 52:42

No, he didn't talk.

SPEAKER_00 52:43

Exactly. Well, he says it through motions. I can't exactly do just the motions on the radio, but he's like, hey, come here, with his fingers, with his body mo movement. And he picks up the baby and he gives it to the dad and he's like, There you go. Go sit down. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. Well, I don't know. I think the big fear of clowns is the same way that some people are afraid of what? Masks. You know, it's more about the face paint and the wig and the fake nose.

SPEAKER_08 53:08

Not recognizing.

SPEAKER_00 53:09

Not being able to recognize the facial thing.

SPEAKER_08 53:12

Putting that face, I don't know if you've ever done anything like that, but putting putting that makeup on, all of a sudden I just felt like a whole different person.

SPEAKER_00 53:22

You know, alter ego.

SPEAKER_08 53:24

Yeah, it is. It's kind of and you can do, you know, I did some of the craziest stuff. I mean, I had these bib overalls and I used to have these real long underwear put, you know, down my knees. And I would go up to women and be messing with them and just kind of hold their hand and then um and then have my pants fall off. I can picture it. Yeah, the looks on their faces was priceless.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

You know, and you got the long Johns on underneath the goofy longs.

SPEAKER_08 53:51

Matter of fact, uh they wanted they were gonna put one in the paper. It was when I was doing something here for uh the Chamber of Commerce, and they were gonna put one in the paper of me dropping my drawers because it was a it was an it was an after hours meeting, so it was only adults there.

SPEAKER_00 54:04

Yes, yeah, it was appropriate.

SPEAKER_08 54:06

And the women, there's three women standing there, they're just they're lapping. You could tell their belly lapping, they're just their mouths are open and they're but the one they put in the paper was the one where I was showing them cards because I was doing a card trick. Oh, okay. They chose the safer one. The whole idea was showing them the card trick, and I would say, nothing up my sleeve, nothing here, nothing there, nothing in my pants, and drop my pants. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

See, anybody who's afraid of a clown just needs to have a run-in with Daivo, and I think I think they would feel differently. That's a little zen for you. And actually, I have some more zen.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

Oh, sweet! Oh, the wake-up call is almost over for another week. And it's time to get your zen on with the Zen of Rand.

SPEAKER_00 54:50

This one comes to us from, you know, the Bard himself, William Shakespeare, in his play Julius Caesar. He says, Cowards die many times before their deaths, the valiant never taste of death but once. Which isn't to say which isn't to say that fear shouldn't exist at all. It's a natural normal part of existing in the world. You just gotta learn to conquer it. You gotta conquer it.

SPEAKER_11 55:18

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 55:18

If you're overcoming your fears. Yes, overcoming your fears. If you're conquered by your fears, you will have many times in your life where you feel you miss out. So that's my advice to you.

SPEAKER_08 55:28

Alright, so we're about out of time. We'd love to hear from you. Uh we got uh shows coming up, man. We got oh, we're gonna we're gonna uh feature Dale Shannon, which was an old uh one of the songs that he did, was one that I did when I was just a kid living in Kansas City that we'll talk about on that show. But um we got that coming up, uh we got oh we're gonna we're gonna get to Lawrence Welk too at some point.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

We are, yeah. I only vaguely know of Lawrence Welk, so I'm excited to try that. He had the accent. They they parody him a lot on SNL, but all right. I've got one more song for us to take us out. This is the fear of people, anthrophobia. Maybe you night might know it as social anxiety. This is the doors with people are strange. Have a good one, Dave.

SPEAKER_11 56:13

You too, love ya. People are strange when you're a stranger. Faces look ugly when you're alone. Women seem wicked when you're unwanted, streets are on your own when you're down, when you're strained, faces come out of the rain. When you strain, no one remembers your name. When you strain, when you strain, when you strain, people strain, when you're strange, when you're alone, when it's winter, when you're unwanted, it's alone, people when you're done, one stride, right? One is right.

SPEAKER_01 58:32

Join Ren, David, and myself, Georgia the Jungle, again next week at 11 a.m. Sunday on KSJE. It's the wake up call as we continue to go big. All right, reserved. Until next time. Export to each other.

SPEAKER_11 58:47

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.