Outlaw Country

Hosts: Lauren "Ren" Harris & David "daGeneral" Mills

Announcers: Zeb McClusky & Wink Dinkerson

Executive Producer: InterWest Concepts - interwestconcepts.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

And now for something completely different. K-S-J-E. Hey random, you left it off your boots.

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Oh, yeah, they're I had to take it way out of the back of the closet.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Oh, I am so excited about this show I'm gonna tell you right now. And we're gonna go explain a little bit more as time goes on. This is what I cut my teeth on all at 16 years old. This is the kind of music I was playing on the country side. I did the uh the uh the uh rock and roll on the FM side of the AM, FM station, AM station, country and now they're kind of considered outlawed country.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Oh, okay. I like the sound of that.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Well, it's kind of between the 70s and 80s. I'll have more information about it, but we're gonna kick it off with probably the originator uh of that, which is Hank himself.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

I'm excited. I feel like I'm gonna get a history lesson in country music. I desperately need it.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

We could do some belt buckle polishing for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

Summer's in full swing, WC is making it even hotter with some great tonnage. Uh uh I mean tunage. Sorry, Dave, didn't mean to bring you into this. Sit back, grab a cup of something, and crank it up. WC is on the air exclusively on KSJE.

SPEAKER_07 1:31

Some will he signs to blue to fly the midnight train is blind in low Hansel I could cry. I've never seen a night so long when time goes crawling by the means went behind the loud space and crying. When leaves begin to die. And as I want where you are. I'm so lonesome I could cry.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

I really liked that one, Dave. Did you really? I did. I put it into my liked song.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Oh, I'm I'm so glad to hear that.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Yeah, that was uh Hank Williams. I'm so lonesome I could cry.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

This is K S J E. I am David, and my partner over there is Ren.

SPEAKER_02 4:22

So I've been told, yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Pardoner.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

Pardon Partner.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Partner, that's what I'm saying. Well, listen, real quick, Outlaw Country is a um is a subgenre of American country music created by a small group of artists active in the 70s and early 80s. Known collectively as the Outlaw Movement. And one creating freedom outside the natural establishment that dedicated or that dedicated to the sound of most country music.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

These are all the names that I think of when I hear country. Like I I I'm not too educated in that genre. I enjoy it here and there. Uh some I like more than others, but this is the kind of country I like.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

You know, it's it's funny because I posted something on Facebook. I got in so much trouble when I joined the country station in Durango last year. Because I said something that old I said I I played a Beyonce song, which is a country song.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

Oh, the country song.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

I remember that one. And I just came on and said, Well, it's not bad, but stay in your lane.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Well, I posted some on Facebook today, Willie Nelson's like, I should have never gave her that marijuana. Now she thinks she's a kid.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

I never knew that. Oh my god, that makes a lot of sense. She smoked with Willie, and now all of a sudden she's like, Oh, I'm one of them. That's so fun. Well, I'm always gonna defend Beyonce. She was definitely experimenting. She was experimenting. She's from Texas, so there's no way she didn't grow up surrounded by country people. I like that song, but um i it's it's when I think of country, I tend to think of this style. I didn't realize Chris Christofferson was a country guy because I mostly know him. Yeah, I didn't know that because I I mostly associate him with Barbara Streisand and uh Star is born.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

So we're gonna have his he actually wrote the song uh Janice Job Famous. And you get a whole different feel for that song when you listen to it. Because I know I played a little bit extra.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

I I didn't even recognize it.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

That's Chris Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Yeah, I did not see that coming. So this is gonna be a really fun show for me. Uh normally you're the one who comes to me and says, Oh, Ren, I love this playlist. This is really interesting. Today it's my turn to gas.

SPEAKER_00 7:18

Oh my god, I wish I had a bill. Ding ding ding.

SPEAKER_02 7:21

Ding ding ding. And um, it's really fun. We started with Hank Williams. Now we're gonna go with his son, I imagine. Hank Williams Jr. Hank Williams Jr. A country boy can't survive.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Yes, indeedy.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

I imagine he'll tell us how.

SPEAKER_07 7:35

Yeah, but the preacher man says it's the end of time in the Mississippi River. She's a gold dry. The interest is up and the stock market's down, and you're only getting mugged if you go downtown I live back in the woods, you see. A woman and a kid and the dog and me. I got a shotgun, a rifle, and a four-wheel drive, and a country boy can survive. Country boards can survive I can flower field all day long. I can catch catfish from dust till dawn Bake our own whiskey and our own smoke to it. Too many things old boys can't do Growth old tomatoes and homemade wine and cock your boy can survive. Cock boys can survive But cock can't start a side and you can't make a run. But with the old boy, you don't got to gun. You ain't in the fast, we don't give a damn. We came from the West Virginia, coal mines and the Rocky Mountains and the Western And we can skin a bus and we can run a trot line and a country boy can divide Country Board Camustify I had a good friend in New York City. He never called me by my name, just ill pilling. My grandpa taught me how to live off the land, and he had taught him to be a businessman. He used to send me pictures of the Broadway knife, and I'd send him some homemade wine. But he would kill my man with a switchblade knife. For $43, my friend lost his life. I'd love to spit some beach nothing that is dyed. Cause the country boy can survive. Country boys can survive down. We just can't buff and run a drop line and a country board can survive. Hunterbox can survive. Cowboys ain't easy to love and they're harder to hold.

SPEAKER_06 12:20

He'll probably just ride away.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

And they're cowboys, and they are hard to love. Isn't that what the song's about?

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Something like that, yeah. You know, and I really did I hear the door?

SPEAKER_02 14:22

The door?

unknown 14:22

Oh, hey, look at that!

SPEAKER_04 14:24

Hey everybody, I just wanted to come in real quick. I know you got the new stuff on there, really appreciate it. And I was gonna make David uh Ren have you do Rinlish, so it's your turn to do Rinlish. David, you just shut up and sit down.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Thank you, Zeb. Finally, somebody's speaking up for me.

SPEAKER_04 14:51

Well, Ren has developed her own language as well. Here she is with Renlish.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

It's Renlish time where I can teach you definitions about things you never even considered. Today I'm I'm talking about the phrase bless your heart. Bless your heart from Southern American English. A velvet wrapped insult so polite it takes a moment to realize you've been wounded. It basically can be translated to you are too foolish for me to be angry at you. And I pity you the way one pities a golden retriever who keeps walking into a glass door.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

You know my hand.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

I if if a southern woman said that to me, I think I would just evaporate on the spot and and just lie over dead because I'd be so wounded.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Well, it was a lot of times when I was little, I didn't have any idea exactly what it meant. It's nice on the surface.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

Oh, that's cute. Yeah, I that that's one that always haunts me. If I ever go to the South and someone says pleasure, not to be able to handle it.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Well, listen, we're doing a little outlaw country.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

My deputy Dave. Yeah, but that also means that you're in second in command to me.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

I'm glad that left.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

He wanted to make sure that I got my time in the sun, which I really appreciate. He's a nice gentleman now. He went to the mountains, he talked to the gurus.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

Oh, it's a girl. Oh, that's a good one. I saw them together the other day from a distance. Oh jeez, yeah, she's a licker. I'm impressed.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

Very good. Good for him. I'm I'm happy for him.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Me too.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

Well, listen, I you know, I've been so excited about all our shows and the stuff that we got coming up. I think our next show, um, if I'm not mistaken, is something that you came up with. So I'll be able to sit back and pick my nose. I mean just and just sit here look pretty.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

You know, that's what you were trying to say. Yeah, I was gonna do synth pop, which is kind of we're we're doing sort of a subgenre of country today, which is sort of in the 70s and 80s. Right, right. And I was I was interested in that. So we're doing a subgenre of like uh synthetic electronic music from the 70s and 80s.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

So I sparked something else in you. You sure did? Oh, another creative bone right there.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

Absolutely. You truly are one of the best mentors.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Well, I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

Like I I appreciate your teaching me all this stuff about outlaw country and I never told any of my friends when I was younger that I liked country because I was an old hippie.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

You know, and they didn't care for cowboys at all. There was a big feud going on between the cowboys and the hippies.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

I can see that. The idea of like the working man and then the freeloading hippies.

SPEAKER_01 18:13

So I I kind of have some more information about it.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

But these guys they were kind of like the hippies of the country at the time.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

That's what they were, actually. They were setting the putting up with the man.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

No, exactly, which is why I was gonna play this next song by uh Mr. Johnny Page. Is this the one that I think it is the one that you know and love?

SPEAKER_00 18:42

I won't go into the story, but I have used this song.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

I had it I had it um set up somewhere in another room and I had him play it. When I left the job.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

I was gonna say, you bet this story better end with you quitting a job while playing.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

I was already going into it, but they all ended on a good note. Yeah, they all got a big kick. I don't remember how I may have had a little cassette boom box that I took in because the phones didn't do that at that time. You had probably something that I had, a little cassette player, and I had to play just to play the first couple of lines, take this job and shove it.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

I ain't working here no more.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Alright, I'll start it now.

SPEAKER_08 19:19

I ain't working here no more.

SPEAKER_07 19:22

A poem and done left and took all the reasons I was working for. You better not try to stand in my way as I'ma walk it out the door. Take this job and shove it.

SPEAKER_08 19:40

I ain't working here no more. I've been working in this factory for now fifteen years. All this time I watched my woman drowning in a pool of tears, and I've seen a lot of good folk die, had a lot of bills to pay. I'd give the shirt right off of my back. If I had the gudge to say, Take this job and shove it. I ain't working here no more.

SPEAKER_07 20:20

I woman done left and took all the pieces I was working for. You better not try to stand in my way as I'm walking out the door. Take this job and shove it.

SPEAKER_08 20:37

I ain't working here no more. Well, that fall on the ease who rigged it down. Line boss is fool. Got a brand new flat top bare cut. Lord thinks he's good. One of these days I'm gonna blow my top and that sucker. He's gonna pay. Lorda can't wait to see their faces when I get the nerve to say, take this job and shove it. I ain't working here no more.

SPEAKER_07 21:18

A woman on the left took all the reasons I was working for. You better not try to stand in my way as I'ma walk it out the door. Take this job and shove it.

SPEAKER_08 21:35

I ain't working here no more. Take this job and chub.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Chuck. You know, there was a there's an old saying about I wish I had Charlie's Pride, Johnny's cash, and uh Johnny's cash. Yeah, Johnny's cash, Charlie's pride, that kind. You know, some country fans consider outlaw country a slightly higher ed variant of progressive country. The outlaw sound has its roots in blues, believe it or not. Blues music, uh hockey talk music of the nineteen forties and fifties, rockability of the nineteen fifties, and the evolving genre of rock and it felt more like it feels more like rock country.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Not the not the proper conservative country that came before it.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

The early uh albums were particularly influenced by um Nashville sound according to Michael. Willie Whaling press and renegade Nashville.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

That's so interesting too that there was laws about who you could and couldn't perform with. They really were, in a way, outlaws because they were going against the laws of the time.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

So I know I I think this wasn't the only time today when we were putting the thing together, but even before when I when I had mentioned that we should do this, you're like, well, what makes it outlaw?

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Yeah. I was like, is it just a title? No, it they really were fighting for something, and I appreciate that. And and you know, you wonder what kind of impact that's had on the music industry today.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

What kind of standards are in place now because they put their foot down and say, No, we're gonna do our own thing.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

It definitely gave I to me it it it opened up the freedom of rights of expression. Yes, bottom line, period. And they also wanted to control their own purse strings. That has something to do with it too. I'm not sure how deep I'll get into that, but uh yeah, because they were a lot of the people who were producers at that time controlled their purse strings. They everything.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Yeah, everything was run by the money.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Mm-hmm. And they got very little, they saw very little of what uh the profits that they were making from the songs that were being sold that all the people above them were keeping. So that kind of was part of the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

And then once again, uh you know, a couple years ago, uh Taylor Swift kind of I don't know if controversy is the word, but she basically demanded that certain streaming services pay her more for her music. Because each stream they get so much of a fraction of a penny, usually. But she uh championed for getting more money and people gave her a hard time and they were like, Oh, she's just greedy, she wants her money. When in reality, from what I heard, I could be wrong, take it with a grain of salt, she was doing it for the artists that weren't as prominent as her. She knew she had a voice to be able to say we should be getting paid more so that the people who had less of a voice than her, less of a platform, could also get more money.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

I I just want to say this. When Taylor Swift first came out, she did country and then she went to pop and then I just had a really I just could not stand her. The sight of her sight of her bothered me, and listening to her voice gave me like fingernails on a chipboard.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

But as I get to know her more and the fact that she's dating one of the Kansas City Chiefs.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

Oh, your favorite team.

SPEAKER_01 25:33

Yeah, my favorite team. Honestly, if he sees good in her, maybe I should know her. But the more I have to study her, pretty sharp. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

She's yes. Her music is not always my favorite. And that's self- I'm very wishy-washy on her, but her as a person just seems chill, so I respect it. She is in a way a bit of an outlaw on herself.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

You think so? I thought you were gonna say no. She's not one.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

No, I I I honestly think because of what you said earlier, you know, before I thought like she's just trying to find she's just trying to find a spot when she went from um country to pop. Yeah. Um because it's it she felt like it was easier to make it in country than it was in pop. That's why she stayed away from it.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

Yeah. But did she start off in Tennessee?

SPEAKER_01 26:20

I I don't know. I think so, maybe. Well she is not a country outlaw by any shade of the world. But at the same time, the spirit is there.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Yeah, you could make an argument that she she does her own thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 26:32

So we respect artists.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Absolutely. I will from now on for sure. I I and I think she's got a cute smile, so Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

I I I I'm rooting for her, why not?

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Okay, so I've got another song for us. We talked a little bit, so let's play a Wayland Jennings song. Good-hearted woman.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Oh, this is my my my father-in-law played this song. It's my all-time favorite. It's just a just listen to it. It's a great with lyrics, everything about it's great.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

I'm excited.

SPEAKER_07 27:02

A long time forgotten, our dreams are just fell by the way. And the good life he promised ain't what she's living today. But she never complains of the bad times of bad things he's done. She just talks about the good times they've had, and all the good times to come. She's a good hearted woman in love with the good times in man. She loves him in spite of his ways that she don't understand. Through teardrops in laughter that'll pass through this world. She will come back home again. Lord knows she don't understand him, but she does the best that she can Cause she's a good hearted woman. She loves her good time. She's a good hearted woman in love with a good time. And she loves him in spite of his wicked wings, and she don't understand. A good heart of wall, a good time. She don't stay. Too much of a good thing? Hardly. More of the wake-up call is coming up.

SPEAKER_03 30:02

When it was all that I could do to keep from crying.

SPEAKER_07 30:21

But you don't have to call me Darlin.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

Darling. You never even call me by my name. You don't have to call me Willin' Jenny.

SPEAKER_07 30:49

And you don't help call me joy pride.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

And you don't have to call me Merle Hager anymore. But even though you're on my five side.

SPEAKER_07 31:35

But you dog meet Darman.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

You have to read, but call me a lot. Love her my name. A few times in your phone book. And I've seen it. All right. But call me I think. Well, a friend of mine named Steve Goodman wrote that song. And he told me it was the perfect country in Western song. I wrote him back a letter and I told him it was not the perfect country in Western song. Because he hadn't said anything at all about mama. A train. A truck. A prison. Or getting drunk. Well, he sat down and wrote another verse to the song and he sent it to me. And after reading it, I realized that my friend had written the perfect country and weapon song. And I felt obliged to include it on this album. The last verse goes like this here. But I was drawn to be my mom got out of prison. And I went to pick her up and a ride.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

That's so sweet.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Now, if that's not outlawed country, I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

Did I hear him right? Did he say that sh his girl was hit by a train? My God.

SPEAKER_00 35:29

She got running over by a damned old train.

SPEAKER_02 35:31

It wasn't depressing enough for him to be like, you don't even have to love me for me. Just be with me. But she gets hit by a train.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

It's the KSJE show. Well, it's a wake-up call.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

It's a show on KSJE.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

There you go, thank you very much. And my partner here, uh Ren. And my uh You can call me what you did last time. My Deputy Dave. There you go, Deputy Dave.

SPEAKER_02 35:53

I like that.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

Actually, call me Deputy Dog. Debuty Dog Dave. DDD.

unknown 35:58

D.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

Triple D. Something I did. Something I can get lost in. Alright, so listen, um I did I tell you that in the 60s it was a decade of enormous change. The change was a the change was affected. You're gonna appreciate this. The change was uh reflected in the music of the times like the Beatles, Brian Wilson, Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, and a whole lot more. Who followed the Wake Cast, the Wake Cast off in the traditional role of recording artist they wrote their own material and had creative input in their albums and refused to conform to what society required from the late forty I didn't know it was a uh recursor to the album out of place.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Okay in the main stream makes sense and they so they had to go out of the law. They were outlaws, if you will.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

And I love that.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

Outlaw country music is what we're calling this, right?

SPEAKER_02 37:21

Yeah. We're trying to make the the titles more descriptive of the show itself.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

So listen, if you have a show idea, we'd love to hear from you. Honestly, we we haven't run out of ideas, but if you would like to give us something and we have not used it, even though we might be considering it, but if we if it has not aired.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

Yeah, if it's an idea that we've never used before.

SPEAKER_01 37:42

I'll give you a hundred bucks cash money. Whatever you want, uh send it to you. If you have, if you've already given us some, because we're getting some more ideas. The guy Joe that gave us the one before recently, he's gonna come up with he said, I gotta come up with some more ideas. I said, Well, Joe, I'm just you're just gonna get some bling. That's all right. Some swag. Yes, it's swag.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

Yeah. Bling is the jewelry.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

Okay, sorry. Uh swag.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

Yes. We don't want to be promising any bling we can't pay for it.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

There you go. Thank you. Thanks for keeping me online.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

And then the uh Wade, he's got another suggestion too that we're gonna use probably later on in the year. And uh uh we have a deal where I'll have to work out a deal with him for sure.

SPEAKER_02 38:23

Because he didn't he was grandfather closed in somehow to get another hundred bucks. He's the reason why we have made this because his ideas are so good. They're so good we want to use them again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

But um And we want to thank Wade out of actually he's out of Visito. I thought he was around Bayfield, but that's close to Bayfield. Okay, the Colorado area. Yeah, he's around Visito Lake area. Really, really pretty country. Mountain country.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

Very nice.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

Anyway, I'm really enjoying the music. I'm losing. Me too.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

You better enjoy it. You plant you picked the songs, and they're great songs.

SPEAKER_01 38:55

This is what I cut my teeth on when I first got into radio. Yeah, it it is definitely the stuff I can remember, the stuff I played on a turn table.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Very cool. The old fashioned, where if you played it wrong, it would scratch. That's exciting.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

And in the start of it, really, you could hear what we call Q burn because you would you would run the record up to when the music starts, because you want it to start immediately. You don't want to do air space or dinner.

SPEAKER_09 39:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

So you would run it up to that space and then hold the record as hold on to the record while it was the turntable spinning underneath it. But you would do that kind of scratch thing that they had DJs. That's where they came up with the DJ stuff. Scratch that record. But you would take it up there while it was in the queue, then pull it back to the start, and then when it was time, you let go.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

That's so cool. I gotta listen to uh some classic radio um you know, radio shows to hear it.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

Yeah. Well, because they have them on YouTube, and it's weird sometimes I find some of the fun liners that we use in the show, but I wish I could get my hands on Tommy Bullock's uh music collection.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

He had a thousand hundred thousand albums.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

Well, okay, so this next song is by Chris Christopherson, who, like I said, I did not realize was one of the outlaws. Um he wrote and recorded the song before uh Janice Joplin played. Okay, got it. I just wanted to know that before I started.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

He is definitely the writer of the song.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Yeah. But I didn't know if he wrote it and then gave it to her and then re-recorded it later.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Um no, no, I I well I I think she paid I don't know. Anyway, irregardless, this is the original version of the song. This is how it was intended. Yeah, that he wrote.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Yeah, and that she kind of did her own plan of that.

SPEAKER_01 40:51

She kind of turned it into a blues pop thing.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Very cool. Oh, I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Let's let's get to it.

SPEAKER_07 40:56

It's a country song. Yeah, okay. One, two, three, four, one, two, three, four. Busted flattened batten rouge hidden for the trains, feeling nearly feeding as my jeans. Bobby found a diesel down just before it rained. Took us all away to do all things. I took my harpoon out of my dirty red pantana was blowing sad while Bobby sang blues. With them winch you up slapping time and Bobby clapping hands, we finally sang a bit of a song at driving. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. Nothing ain't word, nothing, but it's free. Feeling good was easy long Bobby's saying blues. Feeling good was good enough for me. Good enough for me and Bobby. From the cold mind of Kentucky to the cabin on your son. Bobby shared the secrets of my soul. Standing right beside me, Lord. Everything I've done. Every night she kept me from the gold. And someone else, Linus, Lord, I let her slip away. Looking for the home I hope she'll find. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. Nothing left to all she'll left to me. Feeling good was easy. Baby same plus me.

SPEAKER_04 45:12

We're right in the middle of a pair of tunes, that is, on KSJE.

SPEAKER_07 45:28

Well, I guess it was back in 63 when eating my cooking got the better of me, so I asked this little girl I was going with to be my wife. Well, she said she would, so I said I do, but I'd have said I wouldn't if I'd have just knew how saying I do was gonna screw up all of my life. Well, the first few years weren't all that bad. I'll never forget the good times we had, cause I'm reminded every month when I send her the child support. Well, it wasn't too long and the lust of all died, and I'll admit I wasn't too surprised. The day I come home and found my suitcase sitting out on the porch. Well I'm trying to get in, she changed a lot. Then I found this note take on the mailbox that said, Goodbye, Tucky. My turn it will be in touch. So I decided right then and now, I'm gonna do what's right. Give her her a fair chair. But brother, I didn't know her sound was gonna be that much. She got the gold man, I got the share, I got the share. Baby splittin' right down the middle. Women and all sounds so funny. But it hurts too much. She got the gold man, and I got the share. You ain't heard nothing yet. Well, they give her the color television set, then they give her the house, the kids and both of the car. But then they start talking about child support, alimony, and the call to the court. Didn't take me long to figure out how to find a toilet out. I'm telling you, they have made a mistake, cause it had just the more than this cowboy make. Besides everything I've ever had worth taken if already took. Asking myself, why did you just learn how to cook? They give a better gold, man. Give me the shadow. But she got the better hat. But it all sounds my funny. But it hurts too much to laugh. She got the gold man. I got the share. She got it. But I don't have to worry about total billboard. I let my wife totally. I'm gonna be funny, huh?

SPEAKER_01 48:30

I wish I could say I relate to that, but I've been very fortunate in my divorces that I haven't. But yeah, I I know I have friends that have had that happen for sure.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Yeah, I I'll be honest, I I guess I have a bit of my mind's in the gutter. Because when it's she's got the gold mine, I got the shaft. I thought it was gonna be about something else. But I see now it's a divorce. It's a divorce. That's my fault.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

Well, you did go right to the gutter. I mean, I assume. You've been hanging around me too long. David, you poisoned my mind. Oh, that just made me go.

SPEAKER_04 49:12

Things that make you go. Here's David with things that make you go.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

Oh, sorry. Or your money back. Lay it on us, Dave.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

Alright, there's some silly uh constitutional amendments that never happened. Did you know that? No. Yes. The US constitutional amendment was proposed in nine in eighteen ninety-three, suggesting that the country be renamed the United States of the Earth. There was another failed uh amendment in a few years prior that uh wanted to abolish the presidency and install a Roman style. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

I love that. I mean I there's a part of me that understands where they were going with that, but there are other countries that are almost like you know, United Provinces, United areas. So to say that we are the only United States on Earth just feels inaccurate. Because we live on the American continent. That's why though that I tend to like to call the United States the United States, because if we just call it America, then it's technically not true. Technically, we're in North America, but so is Canada and Mexico.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

And there's South America.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

Technically, anybody on one of those continents could be considered American.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

So I don't know. That's why I like to call it the United States.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

Well, if it was the United States of Earth, then instead of USA, it would be U S E, which would be U.

SPEAKER_02 51:25

Yeah, I don't like that. I don't think so. I like USA.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Listen, Interwest Concepts, all lowercase, all one word, I-N-T-E-R-W-E-S-T, C-O-N-C-E-P-T-S.com. Give us a call. Drop us a line. We'd love to hear from you for sure. I'm in the process of remodeling the webpage. And so we'll have the um what do we call it? Uh swag. There'll be swag on there that you can order and the stuff that you can actually win by sending suggestions and that kind of stuff. But you can send your suggestions there. You can catch up on all our past shows. And Mills Mumblings is coming back out, and I have a whole new series that I want to do that I'll talk with you off mic about. That one's Mills Mumlings. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

That's gonna be hard hitting. Yeah, it's a little different.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

Yeah, it's a little different. It's not gonna be political per se, but yeah, it'll be I'm not gonna say we're gonna have fun with it. It's gonna be more the serious side of it.

SPEAKER_02 52:19

How do we describe it? It won't be a political show, but politics I imagine will be discussed. But then I think it's important to say too that we we don't see ourselves as like political commentators. We don't want people to listen and go, oh, I have to listen to everything and agree with everything they say because they're experts. No, we know we're not experts. We just want to give you our point of view so that you can come up with your own point of view.

SPEAKER_01 52:46

Exactly. I'm excited for the show. Yeah, it's just kinda it's a non non-musical show. Just we're gonna we're gonna just turn the mics on and just have some of the conversations that we're gonna have off mic are pretty in-depth and and really uh hard hitting in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 53:03

Yeah, we talk about some interesting things and we we come to some interesting interesting conclusions, sometimes even opposite conclusions, uh information our you know, our own opinions in a larger degree. It's kind of one of those things that if we as a nation as a world actually, if we can agree to disagree, I think it's important to find a middle time to agree to disagree, but there are sometimes where we need to have action and and the only way we can come to a course of action is if we find a middle ground.

SPEAKER_01 53:45

And respect everybody's boundaries and territories and thoughts and that kind of thing. Alright, this is K S J E, and we are W U C the Wick.

SPEAKER_02 53:57

And um, that was kind of nice. You know, that was actually kind of nice. You should clip that. Uh it is time for the Zen of Ren. Is it already over? It is already that time. Oh new intro! A new intro. I'm excited to play it for y'all.

SPEAKER_04 54:09

We all have a certain amount of Zen. Ren has it oozing out her fingers and toes, and as the show winds down, here is the Zen of Wren.

SPEAKER_02 54:24

When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw with Nelson Mandela.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

That's fantastic. And I love Mandela. He was a very smart man.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 54:40

Persecuted wrongly, I think. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 54:45

There's the Mandela effect, but that's a whole other conversation. Have you ever heard of the Mandela effect?

SPEAKER_01 54:49

I have not, but now we're now it sounds like a mill's mumbling and making it.

SPEAKER_02 54:53

There we go. We could have a whole show about that. It's fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 54:56

Oh, fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 54:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

That's been fun today. Really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_02 55:02

Oh, I loved it. Thank you for the history lesson. I think I know a lot more not only about country music, but the music uh the music, the artists, the artists in general. What is it? The music industry. I couldn't think of the word industry.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 55:15

Yeah. Okay. Uh I got one more song for us. It's Merle Haggard, and it is, I think I'll just stay here and drink.

SPEAKER_00 55:23

Oh, I love you, Red. We'll see you next week. Love you, buddy. Have a good one.

SPEAKER_07 55:26

Good beholding you tonight. Good quit doing wrong, start doing right. You don't care about what I think. I think I'll just stay here and drank. Hey, but when you down, don't square no Dis you know the way I feel. Like all the money in the bank. Think I just stay here and try.

SPEAKER_08 56:11

Listen close, and you can hear that night keep buck laying in my ear.

SPEAKER_07 56:22

And it won't change the way I think. I think I just stay here and drank. Since love in here don't feel no pain. My mind ain't nothing but a total blame.

SPEAKER_04 59:19

Over already? No need to panic, Ren, and David will be back next week. Same WUC time, same WUC station. All right, I gotta say all rights reserved. For K SJ E and W C, I'm Zeb McCluskey. And until next time. Excellent talk to each other.

SPEAKER_08 59:39

Oh, wait, wait, you clearly.