Playing Injured
Playing Injured reminds us that life challenges us all—athletes aren’t the only ones who play hurt. Whether it’s setbacks or unexpected curveballs, our response defines who we are and how we grow. This podcast explores the universal journey of resilience and perseverance, inspiring listeners to face adversity head-on.
Ranked in the top 2.5% of podcasts globally, hosts Josh Dillingham and Mason Eddy—entrepreneurs and former collegiate athletes—deliver over 100 episodes featuring diverse voices. They explore mindsets, uncover strategies, and motivate listeners to thrive and play through anything.
Playing Injured
Your Core Wounds Are Not Your Identity
Therapist and hypnotherapist Kerie Logan joins us to explore how our core wounds form and shape our adult relationships. We dive deep into understanding the role of consciousness in healing trauma and manifesting the life we truly want.
• Core wounds develop in childhood when we spiral into shame and humiliation, creating negative beliefs about ourselves
• Our inner critic is actually a wounded part of ourselves that needs compassion and healing, not rejection
• The "anxious generation" struggles with authenticity due to social media creating constant comparison and performance
• Self-sabotage is usually an unconscious behavior stemming from fear of rejection or feelings of unworthiness
• Understanding your attachment style (anxious, avoidant, or disorganized) can help explain relationship patterns
• We manifest both positive and negative experiences based on our consciousness level and dominant emotions
• True healing involves accepting ourselves, setting boundaries, and raising our vibrational energy
• Genuine affirmations must feel congruent with our current state to be effective
• Gratitude practice shifts focus from what we lack to what we have, immediately raising consciousness
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Welcome to another episode of Playing Injured. We have Keri Logan on, who is a therapist, a coach, a spiritual advisor, an author, blogger, public speaker, a podcaster so many things right, I know. But I am first of all me and Keri. Before we hit record, she shared so much value and I hate that I didn't hit record, but I'm excited that I get an hit record. Um, but I'm excited that you know I get an opportunity to have you on the show. Um, obviously, I, you know I kind of read your titles and everything that kind of um, the labels that you have, but I would love to hear from you, um, who is Carrie and how does she spend her time?
Speaker 2:who is Carrie and how does she spend her time? That's a really deep and good question. Well, I'm a mom, I'm a wife, I am self-employed. I've been a hypnotherapist for over 20 years, voted the best for the past 14 consecutive years for for Salem, oregon, and I I love helping, I love working with people, I love helping people find their authentic self and live a life that they love, because there's so many times in our lives we get stuck or hit roadblocks or we get traumatized and we can just lose ourselves. We can experience what you call identity erosion, and it's really unfortunate and it's nice to know that there are people out there that that can help, that understand you and that won't look at you as you're a crazy person. They actually, you know, know what is going on with your brain, with your body, with your emotional state and how to get you back on the path of healing, and you know recovery and so, and then on this other side flip side I'm a huge gamer nerd.
Speaker 1:I love to play video games yeah, I see the gamer chair that you have. I was gonna talk about that. Then I'm looking through your website and I see kind of well, I think no, it's on your youtube channel. I kind of seen like the anime um inspire images and different things like that. So my brother is a huge fan, a huge video gamer and different things like that.
Speaker 2:So I love that. I love it. It's a. It's an interesting flip side. My, my daughter got me into playing video games with her and then it just kind of stuck. It's my, my healthy way. Besides, exercise to de-stress is a better way to put it, cause a lot of us you know we it's better than alcohol or drugs or stuff like that, just playing a game.
Speaker 1:For sure I love it.
Speaker 1:Well, I love what you talked about with helping folks find their true, authentic self. And I would say maybe a few years ago I went down this journey of starting to really find out who I am, why I am the way I am and kind of what my ideal self is, and this all happened through kind of pain to some degree. I was in a relationship and that relationship ended and I felt so many deep emotions that I had never felt before and I was trying to dig hey, why am I so anxious? Why do I not feel good enough? Why do I feel like, you know, not feeling chosen by somebody makes me feel this way right?
Speaker 1:And I started to deep dive all the way through my childhood and different things like that and you know, found out a lot of different things about who I thought I was. You know, wasn't actually who I am, right and being a people pleaser and different things like that shape shifting my identity to kind of fit into different places. I started to realize that, oh, these kind of wounds and triggers have come up and now I am looking to heal these right. So I would love to learn from you how do folks form core wounds right and how do they actually show up in their life? I know I kind of gave my own example right.
Speaker 2:You did. No, it's perfect. So I did a podcast series and blog post called Help my Parents Suck and blog posts called Help my Parents Suck, and the premise behind it is to help people realize that to know what kind of home environment you were raised in Was it either 3D or 4D? So I give the example of a little girl. So imagine a little girl is really happy, excited, playing in the house and is running and knows the rule is you're not allowed to run in the house. But she's so joyful and happy and by accident she knocks the coffee table and knocks over mom's favorite base and glass shatters, water goes everywhere and the little girl starts crying.
Speaker 2:There's two things that mother is going to do. If she has the skills and abilities of 40 human consciousness, she will rise up out of anger and disappointment and have the courage to calm herself down. She will then get to eye level with that kiddo and say hey, you know there's a reason why we have you can calm down, you're not in trouble. You know I still love you, but there's a reason why we have this role in this house and it's just for this reason. You know, something got damaged and broken and what she does is she consoles the child, she accepts the child and you know, there's forgiveness, acceptance, there's understanding, there's reasoning and you can still set consequences where okay that you're going to come out of your allowance some money to replace the base, but you, you don't lose it.
Speaker 2:Now here's what happens. Okay, I didn't grow up in a home like that. Okay, I didn't. I do that technique with my kids, but I didn't grow up in that home. What happened in my home is my parents stayed in anger and when they stayed in that anger and I could feel their disappointment and it almost I don't like to say this word, but it is how kids perceive it. We perceive it as you don't love me anymore, you hate me, yeah, and this is where the core wounds start and it's what the child does. Because the child doesn't have the coping skills as an adult. It spirals down into and I'm going to go into it it goes from fear into grief and sadness, into despair and hopelessness, into guilt and remorse and then drops all the way down to shame and humiliation. That's where the core wounds start, because that kid then will feel I'm not good enough, good enough, I'm stupid, I ruin everything. And then we create this negative inner critic that feeds us that information. Oh, you're stupid, no one's going to like you. Oh, that girl would never look twice at you. You know all those negative, cut down comments. That's our inner critic. But the truth is that's a part of you, yeah, and it's wounded.
Speaker 2:And so I was working with this young, 16 year old boy who had a really just nasty, negative, negative inner critic and I said, okay, I want you to close your eyes and I want you to connect to that part of you, that negative critic. And how old is he? And he said, oh, he's around, maybe nine, 10. And I said, okay, this is what you're doing to yourself, nobody else. You are being worse than an authoritarian parent. You're literally slamming the door on that kid's face, telling it to shut up and leave me the hell alone. What that child needs is a nurturing parent, a supportive parent. So I want you to look at that part of you and say, hey, you're angry. I'm, you know I. Hey, you're angry. When we get angry, bad things happen and we say things and do things we don't want to do. What do you need from me so you can calm down? What has made you so reactive?
Speaker 2:And when he calmed down and he listened, he was like whoa, that's interesting and that's the whole thing. It's about going within and doing self-discovery, not looking at it as I'm broken or I need to be fixed. It's more of this, is an opportunity. Yeah, you know what can you learn from it? Learn from it. And and even when he had, you know, some of the other voices come in he did a test where he said I rebuke you and he and I told him. I said tell it, I rebuke you and I send you just love and light. You know you're going to be OK. And he said as soon as he did that he's like it just got so quiet and I'm like there's so many different things we can do to show ourselves compassion, self-acceptance, self-forgiveness, you know, self-mercy, and that's all part of 40 human consciousness. That's maturity Cause I'm sure you know Josh, you have met people out there that are mature physically as adults, but immature up here 100 percent and you can feel it Right.
Speaker 1:You talk. You talk about people who attract people to them. It is a very high, vibrant, happy energy that they have right, yes. Versus maybe head down, maybe not giving anybody eye contact, maybe you know head low you know they're avoidant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're avoidant. You're a nuisance. They're stuck in vanity or they're stuck in power or greed. There's, you know, arrogant people there's. There's people that are short, you know, like short to the point, and say really mean things. They don't think before they speak. And there's people that are paranoid, hypervigilant, really fearful thinking, and sometimes people won't even say it, but there's fear of failure, there's fear of success. It's self-sabotaging behaviors, procrastination. You're stuck in lack. You're paranoid, fearful thinking. The world looks hazardous.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's a really low, dense place and that you're not thriving, you're just existing.
Speaker 1:And I want to talk about that. Why do you think we are in a? You know, you? You hear that we are in a anxious generation, right, or we are. You know, a lot of folks are anxious or living in fear.
Speaker 2:Yes, and there's a whole. There's a great book about that. The anxious generation oh, it's a fabulous one. A lot of it, I'd, is parts of social media and how people are pretending that, oh, look at this beautiful, you know meal I have, or look at what I have and you don't have, and so people are always comparing themselves to another person, and the thing is is a lot of people aren't being genuine and authentic. It's an act, it's fake, you know. It's like oh, I have to get this perfect shot, you know, and I need so many likes. So when, if I don't get so many likes and people don't like me, and it creates all this thing. There's a episode on Dark Mirror on Netflix, all about likes, likes. Oh, my god, if you ever watch that one yeah, yeah it will blow your mind.
Speaker 1:It was so great yeah, I think that was probably, um, probably one of the first episodes that I saw of black mirror, um, where everything was based off of their social media engagement or whatever the case may be. And you know pretty much, if you had this low social media engagement in your life, you were seen as like a peasant. And then if you had a high, you know it was it was a crazy episode to see because it was like is this how the future is going to be? Yes, right. Crazy episode to see because it was like is this how the future is going to be? Yes, right.
Speaker 1:Um, and so and that's what I'm thinking about is, is fear. We talk about fear, fear of people liking us, fear of not being good enough, um, you know, kind of tying your self-worth to the behaviors and opinions of other people, which makes us anxious, right, and then also it's uncertainty as well. Right, I know for myself, when I start to feel anxious, it is uncertainty that I'm feeling right and it's a need that I have a need for. I, um, I have a, a need for control, right, instead of letting go and kind of detaching from the outcome of of how people view me, of how, um, maybe this podcast episode is going to go, or how? Um tomorrow is going to go, just letting go and um being comfortable with uncertainty, seeing it as good.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's where you know the first two steps of human consciousness is courage, and then the next one is neutrality. And when you're in neutrality, it really is where you're releasing the old and you are realizing that you are good enough, Regardless of the mistakes that you might have made in the past. I don't look at them as mistakes, I look at them as you know, opportunities to learn, because nobody is perfect. We're all perfectly imperfect.
Speaker 2:And to just realize that if someone's going to treat you that way, they are not meant to be your friend, because a real, true, honest friend accepts you. They don't, they don't care if you're crying and you look like a mess or you're sick and you're you know you're vomiting and you're just, they don't care. They still accept you unconditionally. They, they love you, they support you, they, you know they're there for you and it's and it's a true, honest, you know friendship. You have trust, trust you. You can be vulnerable and you can be yourself and you can be safe. And that's the most important thing is feeling that sense of safety and security when you're with someone. So if someone is always cutting you down or or judging you or making you feel bad about yourself, that's really a projection of what's going on with them and not you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and so it's so many things I want to tie back to. So, first of all, even when you talk about the acceptance piece and what made, when you said acceptance, it made me think about accepting ourselves. Right, it made me think about accepting ourselves and not feeling the need to do extra or feel the need to try to perform to get acceptance and love and attention and different things like that.
Speaker 2:Right. So I'll give you a perfect example of one thing. A lot of people sound very nonjudgmental, and I do my best to not be judgmental towards other people, but there was one moment that it put me on the teeter-totter and that was where, when I was working at a hypnosis clinic, a client wanted to stop their program because they were having money issues. And I said, well, what's going on and what she and this was when I lived in the Bay Area, marin County. It was very wealthy area and the woman said well, this is rather embarrassing to confess, but I know I can. I can share this with you.
Speaker 2:But my father's been sick for a really, really long time and he's extremely wealthy and we were anticipating a mountain of money coming in when he dies. Well, anticipating that, we bought a house we couldn't afford, we had parties, we were throwing, we were living that. We're living that lifestyle. Well, he just died and we found out he has no money because it all went to medical expenses. And now we're scrambling. And what are we going to say to our friends? What are we going to say to all the people that you know she's like? I don't know what we're going to do. We're going to have to sell the house, we're going to have to sell our cars, we're going to have to sell a bunch of stuff and and that really floored me that someone would be out partying and celebrating someone's death before you know, thinking, anticipating all that, instead of being with that person and connecting with that person and supporting. I mean, that's your family, that's you know, that's your father.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it.
Speaker 2:It really disturbed me, but that's the whole thing is, a lot of people pretend to be someone they're not and the truth is just like that scenario something's going to happen and you're going to fall in a pit and when you fall in that pit, it's going to force you to look at yourself and to look at yourself really hard. Because she did have a choice when she found out, you know, or knew, he had all this money. She had a choice over greed or love, and she chose greed instead of love because he could have said all right, I don't want a bunch of my medical expenses to go away, I'm going to put some money aside right now for you, knowing that she was genuine and authentic, that she was really there for him. But because she wasn't, I mean he could have known what she was doing and didn't didn't want to warn her or didn't care, because he knew deep down inside. Maybe she didn't care about him and it's sad, but that's the reality of the world we live in. It's that saying you reap what you sow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think that's something to really be conscious of. Is your level of consciousness right? You know, are you doing things out of greed, you know, out of shame, out of fear, out of anger?
Speaker 2:Greed, you know, out of shame, out of fear, out of anger, out of being accepted or liked, because if you are, you know you got to care. I mean, one of my most popular recordings was called Care Less what Other People Think. Yeah, how do people do that? How does that happen? How it happens is you really build a sense of self, a strong sense of self-belief, self-confidence, self-esteem, that, um, no matter what happens, you can weather the storm, and that you learn to not take it personal and to and to take. I always say take one day at a time and give yourself grace. Yeah, you know, show yourself, you know mercy and compassion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's that same.
Speaker 2:When you're on an airplane they say you know, put you on your oxygen mask first before you put it on the kids. Yeah, it's the same in relationships you gotta, you gotta work on yourself first before you put it on the kids. Yeah, it's the same in relationships you got to. You got to work on yourself first before you're going to dive into a serious relationship, cause if you don't, all that baggage and all your childhood wounds come in and they interfere and they impact that relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I, you know you talked about sense of self, not the other person. Usually, a lot of times, you know, when we care about how other people think, what other people are doing, it has something to do with us and, like you, have to start to discover who we are and what those wounds are, right, and even sometimes we start to kind of sabotage these different things, right? So I want to talk about that a little bit of why do we, when we are, let's say, working our way to discovery, working our way to start to grow and get better, do we sabotage, right? I feel like it's a lot of times like, hey, you know, maybe I'm on the way to growing and getting better on my personal journey, but I find a way to kind of self-sabotage, right? What does that come from and why do folks start to kind of self-sabotage?
Speaker 2:Well, self-sabotage aligns with fear self-sabotage aligns with fear and it could be fear of, well, maybe, the person's and it here's. The hard part is, when we self-sabotage, a lot of times it's an unconscious behavior yeah, okay. And a lot of times it is not intentional either, okay, it's, you got to think about it. The subconscious mind is like autopilot, okay. So if you immediately get the feeling or the sense that this person's going to reject you, or you're not good enough or you're unworthy, you could sabotage yourself unintentionally, because you are perceiving this scenario coming into alignment and to avoid the pain and suffering of being rejected or, let's say, humiliated or turned down, you sabotage yourself and it can just happen and it sucks. I mean, I I look back at some scenarios of me when I, when I was dating before I met my husband and I was like, damn, I've really sabotaged myself there. But then when I stopped and I looked at it, I was like, well, I kind of knew I wouldn't be with that person anyway. So I was just responding to knowing that perception that, hey, that person really wasn't a good fit for me anyway. So I sabotaged it. So maybe I gave myself a gift of sabotage, because, but the truth is, is when we don't feel that fear and we know that person really accepts us and we feel safe with them and we trust them, we are less likely to sabotage it.
Speaker 2:It's when fear gets involved, it's when you know that anxiety gets involved and the paranoia and the fearful thinking I mean it could just be a blip like this. You know a quick thought, so like I'll give a scenario. So let's say you're at a restaurant with a woman you met and the waiter comes along and she starts to kind of flirt with them, yeah, and you struggle with low self-esteem and low self-worth. That could get under your skin and just that behavior right there can trigger some self-sabotage.
Speaker 2:It can trigger where you're just like, oh she's not the one for me and you immediately go into judgment. You immediately start picking it apart, picking it apart just in your brain, thinking it, thinking it, watching the whole engagement. Some people will get jealous, some people will get insecure and some people like me will be like I don't care, because I know the person that I'm with isn't going to go home with that waitress and maybe the waitress, yes, is cute and all of that. But I'm secure in the person I'm with and I'm secure in me. And if that's a behavior that person wants to do, then you know in front of me, if I haven't said, you know like hey, you know that was a little too much. You know, maybe you made her feel uncomfortable, but can you see the difference in this scenario?
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100% If one is taking it personal, the other one doesn't take it personal. It's like hey, there are some people that are just flirts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm just thinking about a lot of examples, right, even in relationships, it can even be things that might trigger you from some of those core wounds that you do have. Right, it could be somebody who maybe needs space and doesn't talk to you as often as you'd like to. Maybe it's somebody who you know. Maybe they put their career first, or whatever case may be. It's so many different things that you might take personally.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But it's an opportunity, like you mentioned before, for you to discover what that is Right. Maybe it is the person, but also, too, it does give you an opportunity to discover.
Speaker 2:Well, and it also allows you to discover that you know why. Why am I attracted to that person? Why? Because what you're talking about now is attachment styles. There is an anxious attachment style. There is an avoidant attachment style. So anyone that's really into their career and stuff, that's an avoidant attachment style. They just go into their career.
Speaker 2:They're not really into forming deep, connected relationships with someone. You know it's nice to have a person in their life every once in a while, but their whole focus is somewhere else. It's not on forming that relationship. And it is hard for an anxious person to be lined up with someone that is just not there, that avoidant that is so into their work. And what you really want is to create a secure attachment with yourself and other people and then, when you go out in the dating world, try to see if you could figure out what the person's attachment style is. Is it anxious, is it avoidant, is it disorganized? Disorganized is where they are. I like to call them the bad boys you know it's the it is or the bad girls you know it's the ones that don't trust authority figures.
Speaker 2:They're very, you know, angry sometimes. You know it's, it's, it's my way, or the highway. You know that that that kind of kind of thing and you got it, you got to look at it is how's that going to impact your peace of mind? It might be fun for a while but eventually, you know, it kind of gets old and it gets kind of tired and you can get beat up and, and you know, when do you say enough is enough?
Speaker 1:self-sabotage and maybe a journey of you know, like you said fear of success right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Where you start to get some progress and then you're like, oh, can I handle this? You know, am I ready for this? Am I ready to start to maybe give up some things? Am I ready to be uncomfortable? And have you know folks that depend on me in different things? Like that right? These are other forms of self-sabotage, where you stay comfortable in who you are today and what you have, as opposed to kind of going towards your desired future state.
Speaker 2:Well, a good example of that is I remember working with one woman that was in constant pain and I said to her I think you're getting something positive out of this pain. And I said because if you become pain free completely, you won't get your disability check anymore. You're going to have to go back to work. How do you feel about that? Oh no, I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. She was really tied in to that paycheck, tied in to that pay, that paycheck, and and I and I said, well, I can't really help you.
Speaker 2:Then, if you're not willing to, you know, work, work on the pain, because you're. There's a difference I mean, that's a whole other conversation because there is physical pain and then there's emotional pain. Because I've worked on people where they had pain in one side of their body and then in the middle of the session the pain moved to the other side of the body and they were like that was trippy, and I said that's emotional pain, that's not physical pain. So you got to look at that part of your body that's experiencing that pain. What's stored there? Because it's a memory and it's an emotion that's stored there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is deep, that, folks, because I had another guy on a podcast His name is Jonah Primo, and he was having some pain as well and what he realized is that it was keeping him in the house, it was keeping him comfortable being at home. Hey, I'm in pain, so I don't have to go out and associate with people, I can just stay at home. And the only reason why I'm staying at home is because I have migraines. So I don't have to go out and associate with people, I can just stay at home. And the only reason why I'm staying at home is because I have migraines and I have headaches, and so that's why I'm not going out.
Speaker 1:And so you have to kind of fight through it, kind of go through the pain of going out, and, as you start to go out, become more social. Eventually these migraines started to go away. Is that necessarily what it is? Is that what it is to kind of start to heal yourself? Is it going out of your comfort zone and that's the healing process, or is it other healing practices that folks do before they kind of step out and put action behind maybe those fears that they have?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, that is a really good question because it really does all tie in and it does interconnect. So a good example of that which I think your listeners might hopefully relate to, is I remember working with a woman that had cancer and the cancer went away, went in remission, and I had to have a serious talk with her remission. And I had to have a serious talk with her and I said I want to let you know that, um, this conversation we're going to have is going to be really uncomfortable, but my intention is is, I don't want the cancer to come back, and I know you feel the same way. So I need to express to you that, um, do you understand how you manifested this cancer within you? And she said I. She said I've been thinking about it but I don't know. I said well, let me tell you what I get. Um, you are a people pleaser.
Speaker 2:Before you came here, you were driving your kids to all activities. You were literally the driving mom. Your kids were going to so many activities band practice, swimming, soccer, this and that the husband worked all the time, was never around. You were stay at home mom, cooking, clean, doing all this stuff. It was exhausting for you. And when you got cancer, all of that stopped and people focused on you and people gave attention to you and you got your needs met instead of you meeting everyone else's needs. Now it was you. And that felt good, didn't it? And she's like, yeah, it did.
Speaker 2:I said, but here's's my worry, and my concern is, now that you're better, are they going to expect that from you again, and will you manifest that cancer again so you can get out of it? So I said, and and she started to think, and she's like I never thought about it that way. And I said so what I need you to do is I need you to set healthy boundaries and you need to work with other people, because what you were doing was so stressful, you were burning the candle at both ends. And she admitted it. She's like, yes, I was. She's like it was nuts, all the things that she, she did. And she thought her kids needed all this. You know, band and swimming and this and that. And she realized, um, she never wants to ask them do you really enjoy that? Do you really want to do that? And when she sat down and had the family meeting and talked to them about this stuff, which was she had to have courage to do. They all agreed that, yes, we don't want this to happen to you again because we, you matter, you care, we care.
Speaker 2:But they thought and believed that she could handle it. But in reality she couldn't. She was. She put too much on her plate and she got sick. So to avoid getting sick again, she had to set boundaries. She had to check in with her body periodically. Am I feeling too much stress? Am I feeling too much tension? Am I taking breaks out of my day to give back to me?
Speaker 1:you know, self-care, because that's what her healing journey was all about was self-care, self-care, self-care. Yeah, so one thing you said was manifest. You said manifest, right. When I think about manifest, I think about manifesting something of our dreams, manifesting our goals. I haven't, and I have heard of manifesting things that you don't want as well, and I have heard of manifesting things that you don't want as well, but I've never, I guess. I don't know how conscious folks are about that, about the power that they have first of all, and I think this is why consciousness is so important.
Speaker 2:But that you can manifest things that aren't good for you as well. Yes, so if you're stuck in fear about something that you think is going to happen and you think about it over and over and over and over, you're feeding it. We are energetic beings living in a vibration, energetic world. Okay, this is just a vessel, and when we, when this vessel deteriorates, our consciousness and our spirit leave and it goes okay. And so the important thing to think about is our consciousness, as we we were talking about earlier is like a ball of clay, because when you're first born, you have this nice little ball of clay and everything you see, hear, feel, taste, touch, experience molds. That ball of clay, molds, it, molds it. That ball of clay molds, it, molds it.
Speaker 2:There's your teachers, your peers, religion, society, culture all of that. It molds, you, mold, you, mold you. And the beautiful thing is, if you don't like how you're perceiving the world, that's because your consciousness is perceiving it that way. You need to shift your consciousness and view things differently and take the trash out, so then you can mold who you want to be, and a lot of people want to be happy and joyful and loving and giving and accepting and forgiving and all of those 4D and 5D states of human consciousness. That's connection, that's oneness, and 3D human consciousness is all separation.
Speaker 1:So how can folks start to and I'm even thinking about myself, so how can folks start to and I'm even thinking about myself start to mold that clay to the person that they want to be right?
Speaker 2:I know a lot of folks out there.
Speaker 1:they're like man, you know. They are struggling with anger, with pride, with shame, right, Well, let's take money.
Speaker 2:Let's take money. Okay, a lot of people, you know it's money, a lot of people are stuck in not enough money, lack of money, and the thing is is they never take into consideration gratitude. Be grateful you got a roof over your head because there's people sleeping in tents. Be grateful you got shoes on your feet, because there's some people that have holes in their shoes or can't even afford shoes. They got them wrapped up, you know, with with duct tape to keep their shoes together. There's there's people that are hungry. There's people that don't have a car, that have to take the bus. There's people that ride bikes. There's, you know, there's so many things that we forget to be grateful for.
Speaker 2:You get a paycheck every two weeks. That's consistent money coming in. Be grateful, you have money to pay your bills instead of hating that bill you got to pay. Be grateful because actually they loaned you that service before they billed you. So all that electricity you're using, they gave it to you first. So all that electricity you're using, they gave it to you first.
Speaker 2:Like, I worked with a woman that was struggling with of time because they knew that you could pay it off. Hopefully they trusted you that you could pay it off, okay, pay it off. Okay, and and I said so pay off the one that has the most interest. Make that your goal and be so grateful when you pay it off. And next time just be more mindful, cause a lot of people are like, oh, it's free money, it's free money, it's not free money, it's not. And it's that perception, you know, and don't be mad. You know, don't be mad. It's, and and that's the hard part is that's just one example of money you can go out of fear and anger up into being new, having neutrality about it. Okay, yeah, I don't want to pay this bill, but I have to pay this bill and I have the money. Okay, and I'm very blessed that I have the money to pay this bill. And I have the money, okay, and I'm very blessed that I have the money to pay this. You know, and it's just your perception on money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Gratitude is so key because I feel like gratitude is is something where you just need to sit and think about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it will raise your mood. Oh yeah, instantaneously, all right. So I feel like that's one practice, and one practice that I it's crazy because I got away from it but I had to start doing it again, which is just writing three things that I'm grateful for, and then you start to realize that you'll focus on what you do have and not what you don't have.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you know, and that's the whole thing is your point of focus. So I did a podcast about a it was a testimonial podcast a woman that wanted to get pregnant, and I've worked with this. I've known this woman for 10 years and I actually helped her manifest. Her husband and they wanted to manifest having a child and for a year and a half they were trying doing IVF, hormone replacement therapy, all the. It was a nightmare and she got ahold of me and said I'm, I don't know if I can have a kid, I don't know what's going on. You know, and I explained to her this is the issue.
Speaker 2:You are stuck in force. This baby wants to be created out of love, not out of force, not out of you know. You trying to do it. You're making sex a job, you're not making love, and I said so.
Speaker 2:What we need to do is we need to take that trash out and we need to raise you up into the states of 4D and 5D, and what you're going to do is you're going to create this beautiful womb of harmony and love. And you're going to do is you're going to create this beautiful womb of harmony and love and you're going to connect to that baby because you can energetically connect to it and I want you to say that you're sorry and I want you to talk to it and ask for it to forgive you and say that I'm so excited to have this relationship with you and whenever you're ready to come in, you can come in. And so I had her connect to love, peace, joy, bliss and actually imagine the day the baby's here and you're holding it, you're loving it. It's a beautiful experience. You're one.
Speaker 2:Well, I made that custom recording for her. She listened and in 30 days she got pregnant. Yeah, so it was 500 and I think 80 days of trying to make it happen. Trying to make it happen and you let that all go. You raise yourself up, you align with. I call the sweet spot, the magic of 5D human consciousness. Sweet spot, the magic of 5D human consciousness, which is love, joy, peace, bliss, pure enlightenment, oneness and boom, she manifested it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know when you're explaining that. I think, about detachment, just being detached from the outcome of things, and I think a lot. We are very attached to things where we need it to happen. We have to have it happen Right, Like you said. You said force. We want to force something. We want to kind of fit a square peg through a round hole Right and force it to happen and our vibration is very low Right, as opposed to detaching from it and, like you said, doing it out of love.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And allowing it to happen, taking pretty much taking the stress out of your life, right, letting go of it, right, right, yeah, that's so powerful. Um. So tell me this um affirmations, right, um, are you a believer in affirmations? Is that another way of kind of molding that clay for folks to start to kind of rewire those, um, inner critic, kind of negative beliefs about themselves?
Speaker 2:there's a lot I can say about affirmations. I remember one time I was working with a lady that was creating a vision board and she wanted rapid weight loss. And I looked at her and I said do you really want that? Because rapid weight loss is painful and starvation and struggle. Wouldn't you rather have a healthy lifestyle? You know, it's shifting that perspective and I once worked with a lady that had arthritis and I opened up the book from Louise Hay, heal your Body, and I read the affirmation and I looked at her and I said I can't say this. And she's like why? I said well, you just sat here and told me you hate yourself, and it wants me to say I love myself, and and it wants me to say this, this and this, and. And I and I looked at her. I said could you say that to yourself? She's like no, and I'm like okay, but could you say this? Every day I'm learning to make peace with myself. Every day I'm being more gentle with myself and every day I'm going to give myself grace. And today I'm going to be, I'm just going to be kind to my body. I'm going to allow my body to heal the way it wants to heal. And I said can you say that? And she said, yes, I can say that.
Speaker 2:So the key thing with affirmations is you have to be congruent, neutral with what you're going to say. If it does not align with that, it's hollow. So a good example, josh, is I could say in an argument heated argument I love you and you're not going to believe me. Or I could say, josh, I really love you and you can feel it's genuine. You can feel when it's fake. And our body is the same exact way we can feel when it's genuine, we can feel when it's fake. So if you don't really mean it when you're saying these affirmations, you're forcing yourself to say it. It's hollow, it's hollow. You have to mean it and you have to feel it. And so what I've learned over the years of practice when someone wants affirmations, they ask me to record it because I can say it and I can mean it when I say it. And some people want it so bad, but they can't say it to themselves. But they can receive it when someone else is saying it for them because they're saying it with a genuine heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's one thing I haven't really. I I think a lot of folks we just in it can become mature to just say it hey, I'm just going to say my applications and they just say it, as opposed to really being congruent with actually meaning it and being genuine with it, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, so on. I'm on insight timer and on insight timer I actually have some affirmations, a bunch of affirmations on there, and the ones that I think are the coolest are the ones that have the double voice. So me saying I accept myself, and the double voice and then says yes, I do, yes, I do, I do, I accept myself, yes, I do. And when you hear that it resonates it's like this sincerity of yes, I do, I do, accept myself, I'm a good person, yes, I am, yeah. And so there are ways where you can listen to positive affirmations and just um, like a sponge, just soak it up and listen. And the most important thing is anything that we do, that we meditation or hypnosis or even, you know, guided imagery, whatever it is. You want to listen for 30 days, because it takes 30 days to create a new habit, belief, you know, pattern, your.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a great movie I don't know if you've ever seen it and it might be free on YouTube. It's called what the Bleep Do we Know, and Joe Dispenza was talking about anger and he showed this lightning storm going on and that's what happens in your brain. So think about it is here's my hand and here's anger, and every time you get angry, it gets more power, more power, more power. And then it attaches, and then it attaches to all these other memories and scenarios which you get angry more often. Now You've wired it in your brain Well, when you listen to, let's say, hypnosis or meditation, anything like that, you're deactivating this.
Speaker 2:You're taking the power away and you're creating a new wire which is I can be calm in stressful situations, I can disengage when someone tries to trigger me. When I'm driving in my car, I can stay calm and relaxed. You're rewiring your brain, so you're deactivating the negative one and you're reinstalling a positive neural network is what they call it. It's a new neuron. You're synapsis, you're making it build, and it was really cool how he showed that scenario in that movie when they were talking to him about anger, how it works so, dude, I um.
Speaker 1:So I'm sitting here, I'm looking at the uh, I'm on your website, master, the upper rooms, uh dot com, and I'm looking at the the list of habits, emotions, behavioral patterns and mindset of human consciousness per vibrational frequency rating. And I know you and I we talked about how this is something that is free and I'm taking a look at it, and I'm even looking at this myself of like, hey, you know, where am I at, what level am I at right now? And also, too, I'm thinking about certain areas in my life, my career. I'm thinking about podcasting, business. I'm thinking about my fitness, and I'm like, hey, what is my attitude and emotions towards these areas, right, and I'm like, ah, maybe I need to do better at this right Certain areas. And so I would love for you to kind of tell folks a little bit more about this and kind of where they can find you and continue to follow your journey.
Speaker 2:Yes, so the website is mastertheupperroomscom and there is a section where there's free stuff and the image that he's talking about is a free image that people can get. There's free MP3 downloads, there's free e-books, and so, when you were talking about fitness, if you look at this chart, if you're being more demanding towards yourself, you know like kind of judgmental I mean we can be towards our body, I mean we are. The biggest thing is to learn, to have the courage to just make peace with your body, to realize that your body is fine just the way it is right now. And if you want to improve it, great, you can improve your appearance or whatever, but don't do it coming from a place of you know I have to be perfect, I have to look this certain way because someone's going to love you, josh.
Speaker 2:Well, this is a comment, a joke I say for women, whether you have that dimple on your butt or not, okay, the person that's going to love you isn't going to care about that dimple or that cellulite or that scar or you got on your body. They're not going to care. They love the inner part of you. You know, the exterior is always a bonus, okay, but what people? When they do fall in love, it's that inner heart, that essence that we fall in love with. Yeah, cause there's a difference between lust and love. Because there's a difference between lust and love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%, 100%. Like you know, lust is more like just kind of, you know, using somebody and it really doesn't even come from a. Even when you come from a lustful place, it doesn't even, it's not even you. To some degree it's almost, like, you know, an out of mind type of experience, and so I love that. And also, too I'm thinking about career, right, I think a lot of folks you know they are it can be greed, it can be a sense of pridefulness, it can even be a sense of fear, like hey, I'm looking for this promotion and I'm scared that if I don't do this then I won't be able to get this promotion, or whatever the case may be, as opposed to just having an understanding that timing is going to work out perfectly Right and so, um, this and that's that's.
Speaker 2:The important thing is is yes. Um, sometimes I tell a lot of people you gotta have faith and stop focusing on what you don't want and just take one day at a time and and make the best of that one day, because that's really where our place of power is. We have no control over the future. We can't change the past. Your place of power is right now the choices we make, the thoughts we think and the actions that we take.
Speaker 1:Where else can folks find you when? Where else can folks kind of follow your journey?
Speaker 2:So I'm on. Well, anyone can Google my name, cause it's not the typical spelling it's K E R I E. Last name, logan. I'm on YouTube. I'm on insight timer. I have another website called empowered within Um I. There's lots of ways people can you know, can can find me, and I do offer a free 15 minute consultation. Someone wants to, you know, see if I'm a good fit. I always say you know, check it out. And when I do my coaching, I'm not a typical coach. Anyone will tell you that my focus is to get you from point A to point B and to figure out what is holding you back. Is it something internally, like the thoughts you think about yourself, self-sabotage or is it external, like your mom or your dad or your partner? What is it that's interfering with you moving forward? I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm looking at your YouTube channel website. I mean, you've been creating content. I'm looking at a video from 12 years ago, a meditation releasing fear, guided meditation. So it's so much out there that you have so much value that you have, and for you to take the time to add value to my show, I definitely appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll give you a little humor here. I definitely appreciate it. Well, I'll give you a little humor here. Yeah, my most popular video on that Empowered Within YouTube channel is me reading an Elmo book to my son. A monster at the end of this book. It was when my kiddo was like my son's going to be 17 just this week, but it's when he was a little kid. It is my most popular video because I can imitate, intimate or make the sound of elmo.
Speaker 2:Really well, it is yeah I know it's kind of funny and yes, but yeah, that channel's been around for, I think, oh God, since 2010, or quite a while.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I love it. Well, carrie, I appreciate you and I'm looking forward to folks hearing this.
Speaker 2:Thank you and I appreciate you as well, josh. Thank you for taking your time out of your day to talk with me, so thank you 100%.
