Former Special Forces Soldier & Ex-MMA Athlete on Energy Management, Sleep, and Peak Performance | Tim Thomas (EP 142)

Feeling like your life is stuck on power-saver mode? Former Special Forces soldier, ex–MMA athlete, and Breathwork in Bed creator Tim Thomas joins us to share how authenticity, sleep, and breath can transform low charge into renewable energy. This isn’t about quick hacks—it’s about reclaiming your body so your mind has the capital to invest.

Tim reveals how dyslexia became his superpower for pattern recognition and why breaking isolation and fixing fatigue are non-negotiable for growth. You’ll discover how to become an “energetic millionaire” by investing the first third of your day into your body—so generosity, focus, and presence flow naturally.

Expect actionable tools you can use today: a three-breath reset for instant calm, breath techniques that boost nitric oxide and focus, and frameworks to treat energy like money—making high-ROI investments in rest, recovery, and alignment. Tim also breaks down dream-pull vs. nightmare-push motivation—the cheese and the cat—and how dropping the “ego bridge” builds stronger teams and deeper relationships.

If you’re ready to replace exhaustion with power, presence, and peace, this conversation will show you how to manage energy—not time—for a fully charged life.

Download Breathwork in Bed: https://breathworkinbed.com.au/

Chapters

• 0:00 Authenticity And Energy As The Core Theme
• 2:07 Tim’s Story: Dyslexia, Service, Pattern Recognition
• 6:37 Turning Pain Into Fertilizer And Purpose
• 10:37 Isolation, Connection, And Energy Management
• 14:37 Power Saver Mode Vs Energetic Millionaire
• 18:37 Sleep As The Foundation Of Mental Health
• 22:07 Practical Energy Investing: First Third For You
• 27:07 The Breathwork Primer: Permission And Presence
• 31:37 Power Buttons And Secondary Inhale Technique
• 36:37 Rapid Nasal Inhale, Alignment, And Strength
• 41:07 Nitric Oxide, Humming, And Deep Exhale
• 46:07 Three-Breath Reset To Regulate Your System
• 50:37 From Afghanistan: Discovering Breath Under Fire
• 55:07 Ego Bridge, Servanthood, And Team Energy
• 1:00:07 Cheese And Cat: Motivation That Lasts
• 1:04:07 Giving People Permanent Access To Power
• 1:08:07 Breathwork In Bed App And Next Steps
• 1:12:37 Closing Reflections And Takeaways

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:07

Today's episode is all about authenticity. It's all about energy, being real with yourself and others. My guest is Tim Thomas, who joins us all the way from Australia. He's a former Special Forces soldier, a former MMA athlete, and now helping people and businesses get their energy back through it. Better sleep and breath work. We dig into what it means to be truly authentic in a world full of noise and how being real can literally recharge your life. We talk about how many of us are living on that power save mode or that low battery mode, retired, disconnected, running low, and how to get back to being what Tim calls energetic millionaires, feeling like a million bucks and sharing that frequency with the world. We unpack the link between fatigue, isolation, and purpose and how real connection can pull you out of that fog. Tim is also the founder of the Breathwork in Bed app, something that I've personally downloaded myself, and I've been excited to use it. And we actually go through some breathwork exercises mid-podcast for you to actually take some of those exercises and use for yourself. I can tell you right now, I felt amazing after doing some of those breath work exercises. This episode definitely hits home. Like I said, it breaks down isolation, managing your energy instead of your time, and living life with more power, presence, and peace. Let's dive in. I always loved starting a show with who is Tim and how does he spend his time today?

SPEAKER_00: 1:57

Good question. I would define myself as a very motivated dyslexic. So through school, they didn't know what dyslexia was, so I was just called stupid. And so I had to work extra hard, even just to pass, right? So I had to have triple the work rate just to get a standard sort of grade. But then when I started realizing that dyslexia is a bit of a superpower in pattern recognition, that's when things started really shifting for me. So the pattern I've seen happen in this world, and the reason I'm here, Josh, is that there's such a lack of authenticity in this world. Yeah. Okay. Most of the information is provided by marketers. First six pages of Google are marketers. And what I found is if you can if you can genuinely be authentic with people, it creates a space where it's like their internal compass just switches on and they know where to go. It's like this magic, right?

SPEAKER_05: 3:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 3:02

And I thought, well, if it and when you really create that, it almost doesn't matter, almost doesn't matter what's said. People just sort of, it just sort of turns on. And and I've used that for the last decade when I'm working with veterans recovering from physical and mental injuries. I as a as a dyslexic, I saw a pattern. I saw two things that no one else saw. And that was well, I'll go, I'll go into that in a second. I don't want to sort of tangent too much here, but but who I am as a person is I see patterns that other people don't see, and I get a lot of joy from seeing people flourish.

SPEAKER_05: 3:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 3:48

So so if you can, you know, get someone out of fatigue and raise their energy levels, that's like improving the soil. And everyone's got these dormant seeds of greatness in them that are just waiting for the right energetic level to then flourish. Because people don't need to be told how to flourish. You just give them the right amount of energy, the right environment, and it happens naturally. So I get great joy from A, energizing, you know, my own system and seeing what flourishes. But I get a I get so much joy from seeing other people flourish. So, yes, you know, I I've got stuff that helps people sleep, but but the thing that that is for is to have people see these awesome seeds of greatness that often lie dormant because we're we're not sleeping properly, we are in fatigue, we're looking for external sources of energy. So, to answer your question, I'm a man who's super, I get a lot of joy from seeing people flourish, and I I get joy from observing my own energy systems interacting with the outside world.

SPEAKER_01: 4:52

Tim, two things. One, I grew up struggling with reading, right? I wouldn't say I had a learning disability, but I did, you know, obviously ADHD. I was super hyper. Even to this day, I have a ton of energy.

SPEAKER_00: 5:10

Uh your eyes were ahead of the word. So your eyes were at the end of the hill, and then your mouth was still catching up. Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_01: 5:16

Yes. So I, even to this day, my mind is always moving. I lose stuff everywhere, and I'm just always looking to the next thing. And I used to struggle at reading growing up, to the point where I had to leave the classroom and go with a reading teacher outside of class. And that early message was, okay, I'm a little bit different. I'm a little bit slower than the rest of the group, right? Which made me feel invisible to some degree or less less than in some degree. So I understand the feeling of feeling less than. So one of my most gratifying feelings that I can feel now is making sure that I make others feel amazing about themselves. So I feel like that's the connection that you have growing up, struggling. You understand the feeling of struggling with yourself and maybe not feeling a part of the group or feeling enough. And so now you want to make sure that others don't feel that way.

SPEAKER_00: 6:24

Yeah, well said. So if we've been experiencing a void of say acceptance, then when you know the mature aspect of that is helping other people feel accepted, feel loved, feel connected, and and and seeing what's there. And we to be honest, I don't know if I would have that much skin in the game. I'm not sure if you would have that much skin in the game for other people had we not had that void, you know. You know, or if I'm if I'm speaking to veterans, which I do a lot, I say it very straight. I think you might not think you're special, but I bet you've been through some shit.

SPEAKER_05: 7:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:03

Okay. And it's our job to turn that shit into fertilizer. You know, and it's it's probably taken you many years to turn that shit into fertilizer.

SPEAKER_05: 7:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:13

But but guess what? That's the amount of time you can save all those other people going through the same shit.

SPEAKER_05: 7:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:20

Yeah. So that's that's what I just sort of see that you know, these these things that we could easily play victim to, and it's no fun living in shit, but it's actually there to help everything grow. It really is. Because and it starts with asking the question how many other people are in the same situation? How many other people because everyone's struggling with something, whatever it is. In your case, my case, reading, but there's other people struggling with you name it physical, mental, emotional problems. And if you ask yourself how many other people are in that same situation, and and and give it a real number, like 10, 20, half a million, and then and then and then stack those people left and right of you because they're they're willing you on. Because if you can make a way forward for you, you can make a way forward for them. And and I and my observation of us humans, we can do everything if we feel connected to those around us. But if we feel alone and isolated, everything's hard because everything is hard. No one's got my back, so I've got to I've got to be hyper-vigilant.

SPEAKER_05: 8:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 8:30

And and and that's the gift we can give others. That's the qualification people have when they're going through whatever it is. You know, you and me were struggling reading and a perception. Other people, it could be, you know, breast cancer, it could be, like I said, anything, but you get then qualified to break the isolation of all those other people. And as you make a way forward for you, you're making a way forward for them. And I always think there's going to be people in our future that that are going to be saying, I'm so glad you chose what you chose back before you met me, because you've just helped me move forward so much quicker. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01: 9:09

Yeah, 100%. And you get an opportunity to help folks, you know, not go through that or just tell them, hey, actually, that's that perception that you have of yourself is not true. Right. And we talk about turning shit to fertilizer, and I'm still in that stage. I still am experiencing certain patterns from my childhood that still make me seek approval and validation, and and I'm still you know, healing in the in some of those patterns. And it's amazing to be able to recognize some of those patterns and still heal them. But also, too, it's something that you mentioned, right? You mentioned one, helping others, two, understanding your inner world and the outer world, right? And so I'm understanding my inner world more and more. And it's just crazy because these outside experiences that I felt have brought a lot of those patterns and a lot of those parts of myself up so that I can get more attention to that stuff. So I want you to go into kind of what you mentioned there, your inner world and how you experience the outer world through your inner world.

SPEAKER_00: 10:23

So, so well led, Josh. This is not your first rodeo. Because I put it to you, your inner world drew the outer world to you to the places that you needed healing. Okay, so what does that look like? I can't walk down the street without some particular person pissing me off. Okay, so that's me bringing the outside world to the part of me that needs healing. So if a doctor's wanting to find out what you are, and let's say you couldn't communicate it properly, he'd sort of poke different areas. And if you went, ow, that freaking hurt, and he says, Well, now we've found where we need the healing. Now, and this is what life does, and this is what we do without knowing it. And and it's quite a turnaround to realize that everyone that's pissed you off in your world, everyone that's hurt you, has been you creating that, so you can get healing in that part.

SPEAKER_05: 11:19

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 11:20

So the outside world is a just a complete mirror to your own inner world, yeah. And and once you see it like that, because I I used to define myself as you know, there's all these things outside of me happening to me, but it was me just pushing to the surface all the unworkability inside myself, yeah. And and when you can see it like that, all of a sudden, you don't see it as the doctor trying to hurt you when he's pressing on a point that actually hurts, it's actually showing you the places where you are actually hurting, but you never knew it. So if you're prepared to leave the familiar, because I was very familiar with getting angry at people, you know, and I'm pretty physical guy, I can be very physically intimidating. And I I used to use that to to keep people at a distance, and I wouldn't have to learn what I learned because I'd I'd I could get aggressive. But underneath that was this place in me like a like an operating system I didn't even know was in there. And and for me to go, you know what, it's not them, it's actually me. That was that was the time I got my power back, but then I went into very unfamiliar territory. And it's it's hard to do for yourself, and it's even harder if you're in a state of fatigue. So my first go-to when I'm working with anybody isn't talking about like you and I, we occupy a certain energetic state, so we can talk about this sort of stuff, and and we get it, and it goes in, right? But let's just say you haven't slept properly in a period of time, it's really hard to process any new information. So getting people out of physical fatigue then gives them the energy capital to take on new concepts. And and there are there is millions of dollars spent on mental health. But if people are in states of fatigue, it's like water off a duck's back. If people are in states of isolation, it's like water off a duck's back. And and that's why with with very little resources, I was able to achieve a lifetime goal. My lifetime goal was a saving 40 veteran lives from suicide. And that was achieved within 12 months because of two things I saw that no one else saw, and and my dyslexic powers saw this. A people aren't getting their fatigue, their isolation broken, and that could be as simple as an authentic conversation around what you're up against. And then B, getting them out of fatigue. It's one thing to break isolation, but then get actually get them out of fatigue because your your energy system will always your mind thinks to the level of energy you've got in your body. And if this body's saying, hey, I'm tired, I can't do too much, well, the mind will think, okay, well, we won't aim too high, we won't do too much, and and we'll try and protect ourselves, which which ultimately means I get angry at others when something doesn't go my way. So, so those two things to start with an authentic conversation with somebody, break their isolation, get them out of fatigue, it's just like this massive shift happened, you know, and it's not on the spreadsheet. I don't know of anyone else that's talking about this. But but like I said, one or two guys a week would come up to me and say, if it wasn't for that conversation, if it wasn't for that, you know, thing we went through, I would have killed myself.

SPEAKER_01: 15:04

Yeah, I mean, I was just thinking about that today, and it's been so many times. I'm I'm very intentional. You know, obviously I work remotely. I could easily stay at home all day and never talk to people, never interact with people, never feel sun go into my eyes, right? Human connection not on a screen, right? So it's a lot of folks out there who do feel that isolation. And I know I feel the difference when I stay at home all day, don't have any human interaction, my fatigue, I feel fatigued, right? And not getting sleep as well, you feel that fatigue. And so it's almost like that biology piece. You talk about like the hardware first to a to an iPhone, right? To get the iPhone 16, but if you got iOS one on it, right? And and so that's the next piece, but first you got to get the the biology right, your heart, your human hardware right first, and getting out interacting with people, even feeling that energy is so key. Because when you're isolated, you got all these thoughts. And when you're fatigued, right, it's very hard to have good thoughts, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 16:27

We naturally look to balance ourselves. So if we're in fatigue, discomfort, pain, we naturally seek comfort, and the world's like, great, this guy's fatigued, we'll sell him a comfort for a form of comfort that puts him even more enslaved to things that are outside of his body. So I classify everything as stuff that you can do for yourself and things that you look for outside of your own body. And you know, we'll use the iPhone analogy. If you never charge your iPhone, you know, it goes flat. But before it goes flat, it goes on this power saver mode where you know at 1%, you've only got so much, so many options available to you. And that's a that's a truthful thing. On that phone, a power saver mode, you can only do so many things. And and us humans, we often get into this power saver mode and we don't know it. And we can honestly say to ourselves, oh, this is only so much I can do. Because yes, that that is only what you can do at 0.5% of your energy. So this is why quality sleep, connection to yourself and others has this impact that you can't even see right now. Because when people are fatigued, it's it's very limited their vision of what they think is possible. And then it can be quite depressing looking into the future, thinking, well, I can't I honestly can't see anything changing. And so my passion is showing people just how amazing life is when you're out of that one or two percent charge rate. Yeah. You know, when you're when you're more than 50%. Heck, imagine if you're more than 90%. Yeah, and and and this is the thing that the world kind of is tilted, the economy's tilted towards knowing that it makes more money from us if we're fatigued and we're looking outside of ourselves for solutions. Because it'll sell you it. Oh, you got a problem with this? I'll sell you this. Yeah, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 18:33

You know, as we're talking, I'm thinking about people talking about time management. Time management, not a lot of people talk about energy management, right? So fatigue, okay. How can folks have really good energy on a day-to-day basis, right? Obviously, because I I want to get to sleep, but what are other things folks can do outside of sleep to have really good energy? Right? I I feel like naturally my energy level is always really good. I always feel great. But I would love to hear from you. What what some things do you do to kind of manage your energy and keep your health great?

SPEAKER_00: 19:14

You have to start thinking about energy is like money. How you invest it is how much you get back. And you, Josh, have a unique energy signature. There's things that you do with your physical body that it might cost$100 to invest in, but you get a million dollars back. And the goal here is to be an energetic millionaire, right? That's the goal for all my clients, everyone I work with, energetic millionaire. If you if you want to make someone an energetic pauper, destroy their sleep. In fact, in the special forces, we used sleep deprivation as a weapon of war. If we could keep our enemy off-centered and not sleeping for three nights, we knew it would mess them up better than a bullet. All right. So, so getting yourself back starts with the awareness that you have a unique energy signature. And your energy is like money. How you invest it is how you get it back. And no one's gonna figure this out for you. The economy we live in wants you to depend on it and not yourself. And understanding firstly, the benefits, right? If you had a vehicle that never ran out of fuel, where would you go? Anywhere, right? Yeah, you keep going. Anywhere you like. Okay, so it it makes a lot of sense to create a system of uh, you know, we talked about your own inner knowing your own inner self to thine own self be true. This is where you understand that your unique energy signature needs a certain type of stimuli for it to actually then become energetic. Yeah, some people like to lift weights,$100 worth of energy there gives them a million dollars back. Other people like stretching, running, lifting, whatever it is, some sort of physical thing that you can do with your body that gives you a massive return. And if I was to plan a perfect day for somebody, I would say the first third of your day is invested in you. And then the last two thirds, you get to pour into other people's lives, but you're pouring out of your abundance, not your inadequacy. So, so being adequate in this world is not an option because I know when I noticed when I was working, if I was adequate, if I was at 100% and I did something for somebody, let's uh I, you know, a job or somebody needed 10% of my energy, part of me was like, I'm down to 90%. You better do something with that 10%, and I'd have attachments to it, and I'd get upset if I didn't get the outcome I wanted with that investment of energy. But I noticed that if I invested in me, created 500% more energy than I needed, I could go into each day knowing with the confidence, knowing it doesn't matter if they love it, hate it, it works, or it doesn't work, I'm in touch with something so much more because I can self-regenerate me. If my arm gets cut off, I can grow up back, my head gets cut off, I can grow up back. It's a very different space walking through life with a million, knowing you've got a you're an energetic millionaire, and if you lose it, you can get it back. Yeah, but if you've you know you've only got two cents and you're protecting what's there. So a classic sign of poor energy management is you're always wanting to control others because because your lack of control for yourself shows up in trying to control others. Yeah, but good energy means that uh you a good sign of good energy is generosity, and so what I tell my son who had his 21st birthday recently men are here to be happy and generous. That's the two things we're here for. We're here to be happy, we're here to be generous. But what no one tells us is that our happiness and generosity is completely relative to how powerful we feel, and that starts with us, it starts underneath our own skin, it starts with us accessing our physical body. So, this is what I'm saying you invest one third of your day into your physical body, and then you can be generous, you can be happy, and that's what this world needs that that powerful masculine. And to highlight this point, if you want to see a disempowered masculine, uh you know, they're stingy, they're not happy, they're trying to control everything, they're doing power trips, and you end up saying, Well, I still need a sense of power, I'll take it from others. If we don't give it to ourselves, we try and take it from others, and that's why a lot of energy is wasted in men by sort of posturing against each other. Some people say, Oh, he's a bad ass, don't mess with him. I'm like, nah, he's a weak ass. He's so weak he can't generate his own energy, he's got to physically threaten others to get it. And so I would encourage people to consider the possibility, do your physical activities, whatever they are, until you feel powerful. Yeah, and in that position of power, you negotiate with the world, and and like I said, you you are far better off spending the time needed to become an energetic millionaire. And so when you walk down that street, you've got that happiness, you've got that generosity. Yeah, as opposed to as opposed to, well, look, this body just carries my eyeballs around. I I'm an energetic pauper, I need extra coffee, extra energy, and you know, I need pills to sleep, and you know, I've I've walked that path, trust me. So the what I'm trying to say is your own body and the world we currently live in has the world we currently live in has such little expectation of our physical bodies. And and that's a real problem for us men because that's like that's like unplugging the power from the wall. We've disconnect them from our source of power because you know, all the trees have been cut down, all the mountains are being climbed. The world we live in doesn't get us to access this incredible thing that that we just think carries our eyeballs around because there's so much here. This body, imagine if you had a Swiss Army knife, could do all sorts of stuff, but you never opened it. Yeah, that's that's what that's what our the world makes us men and our bodies. We've got all this awesome stuff in here, but we've we don't often get given the environment to see all that awesome stuff come out, and the world will sell us all these things that we think we need to, you know, cut a piece of bread, open up a door or or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01: 26:35

Yeah, you know, as you sit here, I'm I'm thinking about the investments in energy and how because I'm thinking about the word invest, right? And then you get a big return back. It's the things that in the beginning we don't necessarily want to do it, right? You don't feel like working out, but you know in the back end you're gonna get a lot out of it. Sitting in a cold tub, taking a cold shower, you know it's gonna suck. But the feeling afterward is gonna be amazing, right? Sitting down meditating, doing some breath work, right? It's like I don't necessarily feel like sitting in this spot doing this right now. I feel like I don't have a lot of time. I'm in a rush, but you end up getting so much out of that. Sitting down reading, listening to a positive podcast. Like it's the things that aren't comfortable when you at the start or you don't feel like doing it, those are the investments. Right.

SPEAKER_00: 27:38

Yeah and you spoke to something really powerful there, Josh, because what you spoke to, okay, before you do some form of exercise, everyone's looking at, oh shit, it's gonna cost me 20 bucks to do this, right? They're not looking at the two million dollars on the other side. If they could see the two million dollars on the other side, you know, it'd be a very different experience. And but you know, you do this enough, you train yourself, but but and and I want to sort of highlight what I'm talking about. And in in Australia, right now, it's 1111. All right, and every day at 1111, I send my son for the last few years a little sort of note saying, Hey, how are you doing? Every single day. So I just did that, so I apologize for that little distraction.

SPEAKER_01: 28:26

That's dope.

SPEAKER_00: 28:28

I love that, and and he's a kid that likes that kind of routine, so it's kind of like, oh, hey, you know, gotcha. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah. So so let me flesh out that resistance we have, say, before exercise, before engaging our bodies. We have disempowered things sitting in our head, taking up rent. We don't know they're there, right? A bit like if you're trying to use a computer and there's a bunch of background programs running, it's taking up so much processing power and it's really hard to do stuff, right? And if you wanted to install a new program, there'd be a whole lot of resistance to that. So the disempowered parts of us know that if we engage with our bodies powerfully, they're no longer gonna be around. So they're fighting for their survival. So there's a part of you fighting for its survival, saying, do not do this. And that's when people get easily, they they'll go, oh, let's just look at your phone, let's just organize something else. They'll they'll find a way to procrastinate so you can somehow get around and they can keep that rent in your head. Because if you do access your body, you do become the energetic millionaire, they're gone, lights are on, cockroaches scatter. And and I just encourage people as they start making those investments, notice that pushback. Because the more pushback you have, that highlights, that pushes to the surface all those both background programs that are taking up all your bandwidth. And whether you exercise or not, they're there. They're taken away from your day. They're taken away from your loved ones. They're taken away from the future you're going to have. And so the thing I ask myself, Josh, is if if all I had to do to have better relationships with people in front of me, to have you know a better day, to have a better future is do these 10 push-ups, would I do it? And then I break it down. You know, every 10 push-ups is 10% better, 20% better, 30% better. You know, these are the things that help get you over the thing that most people get stuck at, because the world we live in, like I said, doesn't let us naturally access our bodies. If we had hordes of zombies on the street and you had to be able to sprint for 10 seconds, everyone would be really good at sprinting for 10 seconds. And they wouldn't think about it because that's just the way it is. But because the world we live in is so physically unchallenging, we've been able to nurture and water these, you know, weeds in your head that are taking away from our power and won't let you connect to it because they don't want to die. And and it sort of, yeah. I hope I hope that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01: 31:17

It does, it does. And you know, we we we talk about first of all, we talk about power, and you mentioned earlier how folks people try to control situations, right? We try to control things outside of us, whether it's out of fear, right? Fear of rejection, uh, fear of abandonment, fear of, you know, uh people seeing you a certain way. And so you try to control the outside, right? And so you talked about how do you know if you are you know fatigued or not a good steward of your energy is when you start to really focus on what's that on the outside of you, and it takes out it takes a lot of energy to do that. And so before we hit before we hit record, remember I asked you specifically about putting the power into yourself, right? And I think it's a lot of people out there who are putting so much energy out to the to other people outside of them, situations outside of them, creating anxiety, creating worry, creating all these negative emotions as opposed to bringing the power and the energy back into themselves, right? Uh what does that look like? Making sure that you have that power, that energy in yourself, you know, as opposed to outside.

SPEAKER_00: 32:42

Okay, so everything that you spoke about, looking outside of your own skin, the negative spectrum of emotions, I don't call it a mental health problem, I call it a physical disconnect problem. Because when we're so focused out there and we're connected to things outside of us, we've lost the connection to our own bodies.

SPEAKER_05: 33:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 33:04

You got that? Yeah, so it's not a mental health problem, it's a physical disconnect problem. So, how do we connect back into our bodies, especially if we've been feeding this disempowered stuff in our head that loves it when we're looking outside of ourselves? Because we're feeding that shit in our head when we're looking outside of ourselves. Okay, it's like, yay, he's looking at all the shit because that's that shit's feeding us, right? So if you've ever seen somebody in the extreme state of focusing outside of themselves, they do things like this, okay? They lose control of their breathing, and and their breath is almost saying, Hey, you've forgotten about us, come back. So I would love to not just talk about this, I'd love to show you a method to connect back into your body that you can use anytime, anywhere, and and within three breaths, you can get your power back.

SPEAKER_01: 33:57

Let's do it. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00: 33:58

All right, so connecting back into your body, the first thing we need to do is connect back into our breath. So I'm just gonna ask you to take a relaxed inhale and exhale. Okay, I saw that you did that, Josh. And if you were listening, if you did that, you took a conscious breath. You were simply aware of your inhale, and you were aware of your exhale. Could could getting our power back be that simple? Or maybe I need to buy a bunch of products before I can feel my power again. Now, what I'm gonna do is because breathing, we've been doing it our whole lives, right? Yeah, and it's a bit like we live in a world where everyone's limping, so we think limping is normal. And and that's the way it is with our breath. So I work with a lot of professional athletes, it it amazes me how many of them just don't know how to breathe properly, right? Yeah, so because this is a completely new habit, I and we get to experience new things within the body to make it comfortable and and inviting for people, I just ask permission. There's three little questions that I ask people to allow them to get the most from their breath. So before I show you these three breaths, I've just got three little questions that if you if you like the idea of just say yes or no or whatever it is, this is the invitation. So, Josh, do you and anyone listening, do you give permission to your own breath to fully nourish every single part of your physical body?

SPEAKER_04: 35:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 35:40

Awesome. That was easy, Josh. Do you give permission to your own breath to fully nourish every part of your conscious thinking mind?

SPEAKER_04: 35:51

Yes, awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 35:54

Last question. Josh, do you give permission to your own breath to nourish every single part of your unconscious mind?

SPEAKER_04: 36:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 36:05

Fantastic. All right, so this time we're gonna work on exhaling a bit more, and then when you breathe in, we're gonna breathe in more, more, more, more, more. So we'll give that a try. Okay. So let's work with the exhale, blow it all out. You'll be surprised how much you can blow out. Out, out, out, out, out. And with your no mouth closed, breathe in through your nose, breathe in through your nose, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in. Now hold it. Wriggle your shoulders. Just wriggle your shoulders, wriggle, wriggle, wriggle, wriggle, wriggle. And then if it feels good, let it out with a ah. Let that energy do what it does in your body. It's it's a receivership thing. Our guy, us guys are good at doing, we're not very good at receiving. So that's why I I ask permission. Your energy, this is your energy. It can heal your body, it can heal your mind, conscious and otherwise. All right. And energy has an intelligence all of its own. It'll go to where it's needed. Some people feel like they're stretching, some people want to yawn, whatever that is. Okay. So I'm gonna show you how to take a proper inhale. So you notice when you breathe in again and again and again, there was sort of like some extra space that opened up in the top third.

SPEAKER_05: 37:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 37:37

Okay. So for the sake of giving it a name, we're gonna call that your secondary inhale.

SPEAKER_05: 37:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 37:43

So your primary inhale is where you normally breathe in and out, and your secondary inhale is where you breathe in more, more, more. Got that? And again, I love what I do because I'm gonna show you a little Swiss army knife trick that your body does that most people, nobody knows does. So in your two fingers and thumb, you actually have a power button. So when you squeeze them together really hard, that powers up your secondary inhale. So all we're gonna do now, Josh, I'm just gonna play with this. My second, my screen is playing around. Okay, so all we're gonna do now is exhale, breathe in. But when it comes to that secondary inhale, that little bit more, I want you to pinch your fingers really hard and just look up. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 38:30

We do that on an inhale or an exhale.

SPEAKER_00: 38:33

On the inhale, okay, we're gonna hit those power buttons. Okay, so we're gonna exhale and then out, out, out, out, out, out, out, mouth closed, start breathing in, hit those power buttons, look up. Open, open, open. Now just hold it and wriggle those shoulders, wriggle that spine, feel that chest opening up like a flower in the sun. Feel that big strong chest opening, opening, opening. And when it feels good, let it out with a big ah out, out, out, out, out. Oh, yeah. Starting to find out how amazing our body is and how easy it is to give it what it's needed. All right, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 39:27

First of all, like a head buzz, right? My head is buzzing, right? But you definitely feel more present, right? In your body. That's that's the perfect way to put it. I I definitely feel especially you know, I mean, first of all, when you can't breathe, right? When you're exhaling and you you're filling everything up, all you can think about is letting go, right? And no, those are powerful things right there. And I didn't know about the finger trick. Right. That is huge. That is huge.

SPEAKER_00: 40:03

And we're not even a third of the way in. Just you wait. I'm gonna show you just how amazing your body is, right? So you see my sort of skinny white nose right now.

SPEAKER_05: 40:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 40:13

Okay, behind my nose, everyone's nose, we have sinuses.

SPEAKER_05: 40:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 40:19

And those sinuses, I used to be a professional fighter, so my coach, before I do a combination, would always say, snort air rapidly over your sinuses, and that would snort brain uh air, oxygen into your brain. Now, whether that was based in science or not, it worked in combat, and this is what we're gonna do now to snort air over our sinuses, almost like we're trying to pull it through to the back of our head. So, what's gonna happen is we're gonna exhale and we're gonna double the speed of the inhale. Let me give you a little demonstration. So we're gonna exhale, exhale, exhale, we're gonna have our power buttons ready, out, out, out, out, out, and then as as rapidly as we can, we're gonna let me demonstrate this. Don't jump ahead. We're gonna go and we're gonna like deliberately, rapidly pull air over our sinuses as we look up, and we're just gonna hold it, give it a wriggle, give it a wriggle, and then look up, yeah. All right, so same as before, but double the speed and really look up and almost like lean back a bit. Are you in a safe place? Are you in a chair?

SPEAKER_01: 41:22

No, I'm standing up right now.

SPEAKER_00: 41:23

Okay, if you're standing up, can I can I make a request? Yeah, have your pinches, have one of these on the on the desk so you pinch the desk so you can secure yourself, and the other one you can use. In fact, you could probably do it with both, just so you can so you can lean back, hold it, and wriggle. Okay, because I just I don't want you because some people this feels so good they drift a bit, and you know, I don't so caveat is do this in a safe environment.

SPEAKER_01: 41:49

All right, listen, ideally seated sit down or hold on to something.

SPEAKER_00: 41:53

Okay, so I want you your your your your your two fingers and thumbs to pinch the desk as you look up rapidly and breathe in. Cooker.

SPEAKER_05: 42:02

Cool.

SPEAKER_00: 42:02

All right, so start with exhaling, blow it out, blow it out, blow it out, out, out, out, more, more, more, out as far as you can, far as you can, and then with your mouth closed, rapid inhale, push your nose to the ceiling, push your nose to the ceiling, hold it now. Wriggle those shoulders, wriggle, wriggle, wriggle. Feel that chest opening, feel that wonderful, like a flower opening up, and when it feels good and you can't stop it, let out a big ah.

SPEAKER_05: 42:31

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01: 42:38

Wow, that's a crazy feeling. Whoa. I think why you have me hold on to the desk. I have I don't think I've ever wow. That is a crazy feeling.

SPEAKER_00: 42:54

Well, Josh, your whole life you haven't taken a proper breath. You haven't just you didn't know the power of your own breath. Okay. And so you are and teeth start showing because we we're like we're made to be happy, remember? We're made to be powerful, we're made to be generous. Yeah, man, we got you. Okay, you know how many people how many things people take to put smiles on their faces?

SPEAKER_01: 43:21

Oh yeah. No, that I mean, like if people could if people knew how to access that. That is a crazy feeling. Like, I feel really good. Wow. Wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 43:45

Because here's the thing you're not just getting more energy from your oxygen, proper breathing gives you proper alignment. And our body's in our electrical circuit, right? So think of your brain like a generator and all the electrical cables running down, they're not hard cables. Think of them like squishy garden hoses, you know. And if you step on your garden hose, there's not much water going through. You got that?

SPEAKER_05: 44:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 44:12

So when we're hunched over, when we're looking at a screen, when we're hunched over looking at a phone, we are essentially stepping on our own garden hoses, so there's no energy going through the system. And when I work with the British Special Forces, they worked out that every degree the body was out of alignment, it lost between 8 and 12% strength. Isn't that interesting? So if you could carry 100 kilos on your shoulders, one degree out, your max was only 88 to 92 kilos. I mean, I'm talking metric right now. I hope you get that.

SPEAKER_01: 44:43

I don't kilos, uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 44:46

So okay, so so you if you were carrying 200 pounds.

SPEAKER_01: 44:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 44:50

Yeah, yeah. So you you drop eight to 12% strength every degree you're out of alignment. So imagine if every time you just breathed in and looked up, you got eight to twelve percent stronger. Yeah. And that's only one degree out. If you're three degrees, that's like a whole lot more. That energy you're feeling, it it it's it's a tangible form of power.

SPEAKER_01: 45:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 45:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 45:14

No, that's crazy energy that I felt. And I remember I told you I did I did some breath work earlier today, right? And you know, people who I don't know if people are familiar with breath work and what that looks like. But I mean, people cry, right? A lot of times I get teary-eyed and some of those intense kind of breath work experiencing, doing some belly breathing, chest breathing. I get teary-eyed, and you know, at the end of the session, like I'm crying. But that actually like pulling the oxygen in really fast, putting my head up, like that was it was some intense energy that I felt right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 45:54

And we're only about halfway through it. It's gonna get better. All right. All right. I'm I'm I'm tempted to have you sit in a chair, but I think you'll be okay.

SPEAKER_01: 46:06

I can sit down. If you want me to sit down, I can adjust.

SPEAKER_00: 46:09

Well, that would be ideal. That would be ideal. So if you need to press pause, I'm happy to.

SPEAKER_01: 46:14

No, I can uh I got it set up where I can sit down.

SPEAKER_00: 46:19

Perfect. And is your is your spine supported? You're sitting down with a smile?

SPEAKER_01: 46:23

My spine is supported.

SPEAKER_00: 46:25

Fantastic. All right, no worries. You're doing really well, by the way. I I can see you've got physical mastery, you're doing everything you're supposed to, and you're also physically sensitive. So you you picked up on this straight away. A lot of people can't quite classify what's going on. And I show people these easy to access breath work techniques because not everyone's got half an hour spare. They just want something that can get them through the moment. And then what I hope happens is they go, Oh, every time I gave breath ten dollars, it gave me a thousand dollars. Well, how about I start putting more of my time and effort into that? You know, yeah. So that's that's why I'm showing this very easy. Like my party trick is three breaths and you're back in control, right? So our nose is a very interesting thing. Imagine if there was a gas out there that benefits your brain, benefits your heart, benefits your performance, benefits your immune system and your mood regulation. There's a gas out there. And if you went to say, you know, a laboratory and said, I want a gas that helps me improve pretty much every part of me, you'd probably be paying several hundred dollars for a small bottle that might not last you a week, right? Now, nitric oxide is that gas, it's a vasodilator, it improves performance, improves mood, improves uh sexual function. There's so many things that it does, and it's not produced when we breathe through our mouths. It's only produced when we breathe through our nose. That's incredible. Breathing through your nose.

SPEAKER_02: 48:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 48:13

Now fun fact is if you hum, you increase nitric oxide uptake by like two thousand percent. By humming. Okay. Yeah. Humming. All right. Yeah. So what I want you to do, and this is just a practice, is breathe in, hum with your mouth closed, let it go out of your nose, and then block one nostril, and then restart, and then start restricting it so it so it so you feel like the air is backing up a little bit. So you go and so it takes a little while to come out. Let it you feel that sort of oxygen, you're pushing on it and you're humming.

SPEAKER_05: 48:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 48:58

So you got that? So and it sort of it almost makes your nose feel like you're playing uh a musical instrument because it's it's making that kind of yeah, right. And what we're gonna do, Josh, is when we breathe in, we're gonna hold it and we're gonna wriggle it down from our upper to our middle to our lower, and our and we're gonna push it down low and we're gonna hum while it's pushed down low because I'll just stand up so you can see what I'm talking about. The bottom of our lungs is where the best gas exchange is. Okay, so when I'm working with athletes, I'll show them how to breathe down there, pressurize it, and oxygen dissolves lactic acid. You got that? Yeah, so we're gonna take a deep breath in, hold it, and then gonna wriggle it, wriggle it, wriggle it down low till it's like a balloon in our belly, and then we're just gonna hum as we push it down low. And this is the this is the one you you do need to be seated, supported in a safe place for. Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 50:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 50:03

All right. So with your power buttons ready, I'll coach you through this, I'll be with you the whole time. Start blowing it out. Out, out, out, out, out. And then rapid inhale, point your nose to the ceiling, hit the power buttons, open, open, open. Okay, hold it, hold it, and just wriggle, wriggle, wriggle, wriggle it down. Turn your head, push your head forward, push your head forward, put your hands on your belly, push it down low. You're still holding your breath, and then pushing it down low, start humming with your mouth closed, pinch your nose. Feel it pushing down low, and as you let that slow exhale out, relax your shoulders, relax your neck, relax your face, relax any tension in your body, treat your body like a deflating toy. Everything's just letting it go.

SPEAKER_01: 51:09

Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 51:11

We're just gonna do that two more times, my man.

SPEAKER_01: 51:14

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00: 51:15

Okay, and each time just let it go in deeper. You'll give they've given permission for it to nourish your body, your mind, your unconscious mind. So let's let's do it again, breathe out again, blow it out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out. And this is the only time we work hard is when we hit those power buttons and look up, really snort that air, try and pull it through the back of your head, hold it, hold it, wriggle, wriggle, wriggle. Now let your head fall forward, wriggle it down to your belly button, push it down low, hands on your belly, hands on your belly, let your head fall forward, let your head fall forward, and then just hum it out. And the longer you exhale, the better it is. Let all that tension leave your body, leave your mind, leave your unconscious mind. Just focus on that breath. And then, whenever you're ready, we do it one last time, in your own time, in your own way. I'm right here, so just start with the exhale, and I really just want you to lengthen the breath really long, blow it out further, and then we power up, push into the ceiling, in, in, in, feel the tension, wriggle it around, wriggle it around, and then just let your body relax, wriggle it down low, hands on your belly, hands on your belly, feel that air going down to the push it down further this time, push that air down further, let your head fall forward, and when it feels right, just go for as long as possible, and just let that goodness in. Just let everything relax. Your shoulders, your neck, your face, your arms. It's all just letting go. You're perfectly safe, you're perfectly supported. The longer you do it, the better it is. And I just encourage you just to don't give it words yet, just let your spine sit in that chair, let that let that chair support you right now. Let the muscles touching that chair support you. The chair was built to hold you, it will hold you, it will support you. Often in our tension, we it's like we're trying to give ourselves a hug and hold ourselves up, but it doesn't work like that. It's only when we completely let go and and feel supported that we can actually get that support that we're so needing. And right now, you've just given your system what it needs to go, you know what, I'm safe, I can let go, I can, I can be in this moment. And I and I and I want to acknowledge you, you really took that on. And you're you're on you're in the space now where you know you're nourishing your body, you're nourishing your mind, you're nourishing your unconscious mind.

SPEAKER_01: 54:46

Yeah. You know, we talk about regulating the the nervous system, right? Our nervous system. And a lot of times our nervous system are in, you know, it's in it's in flight or f flight, it's in freeze. You know, it's in a void, right? It's it's it's it's our nervous system and our unconscious mind tell us a lot, right? And being able to have ways to regulate our nervous system, I don't think people realize how important uh or or essential that is, right?

SPEAKER_00: 55:30

Well, we can't regulate our nervous system, but we can connect to something so much more powerful than it. And that's what we did. We connected to our breath because before we were thinking, we were breathing, and that deep ancient wiring outranks the thinking mind. So as you were breathing, you weren't thinking about anything else because your breath has older wiring and more powerful wiring than this new kid on the block. And and within that, you connected to your own body, your own power, you plug back in. So you stop, and this shit just disappears and it evaporates, it's not even there. I'm looking at you, you you look different, you're talking different, you you got a relaxed, you know, facial disposition. There's there's it's tangible, and and if I have to use another big word, ineffable words don't adequately describe when you connect back into the awesomeness that is in your body, because this awesomeness existed well before we spoke. And this is why psychologists they study for eight years, and no one tells them that that stuck energy goes down deeper than words can reach. And this is why I don't talk self-regulating, I talk connecting back into your real power. Because that's where that's where that change happens very rapidly. Because that was just three breaths, my man. Yeah, you know, if if we were together for an hour, I could I I could show you things that your breath could do for you that that words just I can't explain the experience.

SPEAKER_01: 57:09

Yeah, I mean, it it was it was times where I felt like high, you know. You feel hi, right? It's like it's like whoa, you know, and our breath, I mean, just sitting there sitting here thinking, you know, doing this with you, I'm like, wow, did our breath can do some amazing things for us, right? Wow, that that was uh that was a great experience.

SPEAKER_00: 57:39

And Josh, you're one of the few people that have discovered the power of your breath. There is a$540 billion illegal drug spend because people want to get high. I'm a big believer in being in altered states. Yeah, okay, but I'll do that for myself. Thank you very much. I'm not gonna become enslaved to a substance that can do something for me that I could otherwise do for myself.

SPEAKER_05: 58:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 58:03

Got that?

SPEAKER_05: 58:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 58:05

And you don't hear about this sort of stuff because guess what? No one's making money from it.

SPEAKER_01: 58:11

Yeah, it goes back to what you said in the beginning, right? That that authenticity, that authenticity uh piece of it, right? And and so many marketers and people trying to sell something to you that you can give to yourself, right?

SPEAKER_00: 58:29

It's already exactly the and and the takeaway is if you if you're kicking around in public, I will discreetly, because I'm human, you know, if there's something that's taking my attention away from me, I will discreetly use my power buttons to snort and just hold it and wriggle for gently. I won't push it down low because that gets me drifting a bit too low, but I'll just do that snort, hold it, give it a wriggle, and I'm like, ah, I'm back in my body right now. And if you can do this at the beginning of the day, you then say, Okay, here's my power range. And you start noticing if you're outside of your power range. Ah, I'm gonna use my breath to bring me back in. Yep, this is where I live. This is me being an energetic millionaire. This is not me, you know, focused out there, disconnected from my power. So I encourage people, use this as your power button. A bit like you know, when you're in hospital, you press that button for a pain relief or bring the nurse in or whatever. Have this as your circuit breaker. Because I know when I've got shit in my head, watch what happens to my my my physical structure. When there's things pissing me off, I start hunching over. And I'm I'm stepping on the the the garden hoses, so to speak. I'm I'm pinching off my own physical energy by being hunched over, and I'm and I'm reducing the amount that I breathe. But when I, you know, life looks very different as a millionaire than as a you know, as a pauper. And and this is this little thing gives us that access through the day, and that's why I'm a firm proponent on. The first five minutes of your conscious waking, doing breath work to create your millionaire zone. This is where I live. Okay. This is my home. This is what makes me feel safe. This is what makes other people feel safe. This allows me to be generous. This allows me to be happy. This allows me to be powerful. And I'm not worried about I know that I can't stop other people trying to take from me, but they can't stop me putting back in. Right. You know, because I've been that guy with only a dollar. Someone took 50 cents and I've spent years thinking of revenge and stuff to get that 50 cents back. And I've completely not known that I could have been a millionaire the next day.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:46

You feel me?

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:47

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:49

Yeah. How did you find out about this practice? What got you into this practice? Obviously, you know, being in war, being a being a MMA fighter, like you probably spend a lot of time in fight or flight, right? Where you had to calm your down, right? Or understanding how to deal with danger, right? How did you get into this practice?

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:12

Yeah, good question. Good question. I was on this Himalayan mountaintop and this light appeared all around me. That didn't happen. So I I had to say it because so many people think it's like it's not like that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:34

It was a moment of enlightenment, huh? No, I just kidding.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:38

It was it was it was in the deepest part of my own shit in the middle of Afghanistan, completely fatigued in the dirt. And I thought I was gonna die. There's no point. And it was like I only had two cents worth of energy. Wow. And then and then something said to me, Tim, if you've only got two cents worth of energy, you better invest that properly. All right. Kind of could, I don't know what it was, but we never got anything that you'd call sleep in the field, but you'd get horizontal every now and then just to just to lay down.

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:19

And so instead of just trying to sleep, what I what I found myself instinctively doing, this is a true story, I would focus on my left thumb and I'd picture there was like a pinhole. I didn't know breath work was a thing, right? But this is what I felt led to do a pinhole in my thumb, and I was like breathing through my nose, and I was pulling air through my thumb and for pulling relaxation through my thumb, and eventually my thumb would then become like white light. Okay, in my in my mind's eye. Oh, it's turned white, right? And I didn't know, but I was accessing nitric oxide, which was accelerating my healing processes, accelerating my uh a number of different things. And then I'd go to my index finger, you know, or pointer finger, ring finger, all these sorts of things. And then I'd pull that through to my forearm. And at that point, I would go into this delightfully oxygenated, alkalized state. And I would go to sleep with two cents worth of energy and I'd wake up with 50 cents worth of energy.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:21

Again, I didn't know what breath work was, but I could see patterns, you know, energy is like money. How you invest it, how you get it back. So the next night I'd invest 50 cents. And instead of pulling it through my hands, I'd pull it through my arm and into part of my body, and then boom, I'd wake up with five dollars. And then I just started investing and returning, investing and returning until it got to a point where I'm like, man, I'm good to go. Holy crap, who knew? And I started doing extra sort of strength work on top of my normally busy day, like lifting an ammo tin, doing push-ups, all that sort of stuff. But it's interesting, Josh. I realized, and I had to go to Afghanistan to get this. I could be having a great day, but if my team wasn't having a good day, I'm not having a good day.

SPEAKER_05: 1:04:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:14

So I had to generate enough energy to then pour into my team. And so there there comes a point in your journey of mastering underneath your own skin where you say, Well, how do I best then be powerful outside of my own skin? And I didn't know breath work was a thing, but I just I started to see the power of servanthood and not servitude. Because I'd mixed up servitude with servanthood. Okay, and so I started I started doing things for my team that would uh boost them up.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:58

And it was uh it was yeah, what did that look like?

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:05

Like well, okay. I happen to have a supply of coffee, fresh, you know, freshly, you know, ground coffee. Yeah, and and the problem was in a group of alpha blokes, if you do an act of service that they didn't ask for, they treat you like a servant. Uh I knew if I brought people coffee, I'd be called the brew bitch, right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:33

And I'm like, I've worked too hard to be here. You know, someone's gonna get politely knocked out if they if they call me the brew bitch. But again, I was fortunate enough to be in a situation where I had to think, well, who do I want around me when good times turn bad? Do I want strong and connected and empowered people? Do I do I want disempowered fatigued people? So I I I called it the ego bridge. Once you drop your own ego, once you don't care about what other people think, genuinely, you can you can use that to go anywhere. Yeah, and so I I brought I brought coffee to people. I got called the brew bitch. But living so close to people, you gotta you got to see what your actions did. Because quite often in society, we're so disconnected from others physically, we can't see what happens in the space I was in. I could actually see those guys were arguing, throwing shit at each other. I drop off a coffee, they call me the brew bitch, and then they start taking these sips of coffee, and then everything just stopped. The arguing stopped, they're drinking real coffee, their shoulders drop. You could see them going as they're looking at the horizon, right? So that their body is naturally self-regulating, and all of a sudden, these arguing people would start connecting, sitting down, telling jokes. And eventually the upper ranks and lower ranks started sitting down together, and that's no small thing. Normally there's a point of separation. And in that place, I was saying nothing, I was a private, I was paid to do what everyone else said, but I had to go there and see that to see just how powerful servanthood is, creating a space where people feel like their needs are met, and then they can connect to others. And I thought, as much as there's still dark times ahead, we're gonna meet those dark times as a connected team. And and that that was uh a real shift for me. You know, I could have lived six comfortable lifetimes and not if I didn't have my own survival at stake, I wouldn't have been able to sort of go through the my own you know innate selfishness.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:57

Wow. And so lowering that, first of all, lowering that ego, you you and you said a word that would ego bridge, ego bridge.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:06

You drop it, you can walk over it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:07

Yeah, that ego bridge, but you said genuinely stop caring about what people think, genuinely is the word, right? And it's so tough, especially when you're in a space of a lot of men and you are a leader, and you want to be looked at as the baddest. You know, we talk about playing injured. I remember playing through gruesome stuff just for not even obviously I wanted to play, but I wanted to show weakness. I wanted to know. Yeah, I wanted the team to know, hey, this is who I am, right? He's crazy, he's willing to go through anything. But even dropping the ego, that ego bridge, and just genuinely not looking for that approval or that validation for the betterment of the full unit, the full team for others, that I mean, that that's something that a lot of men can start to take a look at. And then you realize how much it makes you feel better, right?

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:20

Well, how many men are struggling with the concern they have of what other people think? So they're all just in my mind, looking back on it, I helped so many other men feel comfortable with dropping their ego because I dropped mine. Because every we're us men are just waiting for permission to do that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:40

Taking the mask off, taking that mask off.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:43

Right. And then how many people you help along the way. You know, I'm sitting here thinking about, you know, even creating a podcast or whatever the case may be. I remember having a lot of fears. And I still feel like it's it's other areas where we kind of dim our light. And I'm talking about me specifically, where you could literally drop that ego bridge for the betterment of others.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:11

Yeah, it's not just you walking over that bridge. It's a whole other people with you. They're just they're they're all on one side, they're waiting for one person to drop that bridge and then, oh, we can all go.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:19

You can run and run across it. Yeah. And run across it, right? But I think it's so many of us out there that are, you know, we have that ego, uh, the fear of looking lame, right? Yeah, or cringy, you know, not being cool, not being seen as just this, it's it's we have so many, as men, we got so many masks, so many things that we have, and you like talking about our ego that we can just drop for others to drop their egos as well, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:58

And to add a layer of self-benefit, because I I really yeah, I had to see the self-benefit because, like I said, in Afghanistan, I'm like, well, if I want to survive the self-benefit and having strong people around me, you know what I mean? Yeah, the other thing to sort of layer in self-benefit is it's not just this generation we're dropping the ego for, it's all the generations before us that held on to certain things and they put it into the DNA, and it's in us. I ain't never met my great-great great grandfather, but I'm pretty sure he was an angry dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And for me to get healing in my life, in my timeline, I feel like the ancestors are going, I can finally rest now. You know, we bring healing to those before us, and obviously healing to those that come after us. If I don't resolve what I need to resolve, and the answer to all of this is love. You know, how do I respond with love? And not love the way people think, love in the way that you are actually all powerful. You don't even fear death. You can get your arm cut off, I can grow up back. That's how powerful I am. And it's it's it it it was a driving point for me to realize my dumb shit doesn't die in the grave with me. I pass it on to my children. Or or or anyone who's you know who meets me, you know. So that was that was sort of the the driving force for me to do the work is a conversation I had before I was in the army. I was working as a a bell hop, I think you'd call that, in a hotel, just carrying bags, right? Yeah, in an Australia, nobody tips. So it was just carrying heavy stuff and not a lot of tips, right? And I remember thinking about, and I invite everybody to to go on this journey with me. Don't think about your future for a second, think about your past. Think about before you're around, think about your your mom and dad, okay, whichever one you want to think about. I was thinking about my dad, and I'm like, you know what? My life would have turned out very differently if dad chose a different mum.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:31

Okay, yeah, and and you know what, even before he met mom, he was making choices that some of them really worked for me, and some of them, you know, they didn't work for me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:45

All right, and then it hit me as a young man with no kids, holy shit, there is gonna be a kid at some point in the future thinking about my life, thinking, oh, I'm really glad dad chose that. And you know what? When dad chose this, that didn't work for me at all. And and and it was literally like these two pathways appeared in front of me. One took up about that much, and that was the easy path, that was the unconscious part, that was the part that you do without thinking. And then there was the conscious part, the part that took a choice, the part that often took more energy, so it was considered the harder path. And I saw beyond the the easy path was the longer you're on the easy path, the harder life got. Yeah, ironically, right? The hard path was hard, but then the longer you're on it, the easier it is. Yeah, and I couldn't do that for myself in the moment. I was put in that place because I I saw at some point in the future there is honestly going to be a kid going, I'm really glad my dad chose this before I was even born. You know, and and and and that's that was sort of the concept where it allows us to choose the things we kind of know we're supposed to choose, but it just adds an extra layer of, I guess, self-benefit commitment to to why we choose something that takes more energy that is considered the harder path.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:26

Yeah, the hard path. That that investment, like we talked about earlier, right? And yeah, you you you make hard choices now for for easier life later, right? And you make these easy choices now. I mean, the easy choice, you know, for me it's Friday night. Easy choice would be to just go hang out, tell Tim, ah, that's a reschedule. Matter of fact, Tim, I don't even want to do this, you know. But, you know, it's it's it's all about making those choices that you know will make you feel better. Like I know for a fact after this show, I'm gonna, this, this is filling my cup, right? I I'm I'm already thinking about how great tomorrow morning is gonna be, how how great I'm going to feel tomorrow morning after doing this, right? And so you do you keep stacking a bunch of those, and eventually, you know, you look down the line and you've created, like you said, things that your kids can look at and be like, man, thank you, dad, for making all these decisions, you know, for my life. You know, honestly, you made my life a lot easier, right?

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:42

And it pays if you really want to go somewhere to get a double-barreled dose of motivation. And I want to presence everybody here. If you if you're picking up what's putting down, I my goal is for you to have permanent access to your own power. And there's a big part of us that we can access that not many people do. There's a wonderful experiment they did on a mouse going towards a piece of cheese. I'm going somewhere with this, yeah, and it and it measured like using your terms, about half a pound of pressure getting towards the cheese. And then they put the smell of a cat in the room, and it went to like two pounds of pressure. It had so much more access to power when there was something it really didn't want to be around. Okay. Now, my personal view is I recommend to everybody not don't watch mainstream media because that's just smell of the cat, smell of the cat. Look at all the smells of the cat. And everyone's sort of so there's no cheese to go towards. It's just the the room stinks a cat, and then they just well, what's the freaking point, right? Okay, so so there is a time that that is overused, but there's what we want to go towards, but there's also what we want to avoid.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:08

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:08

And I'm I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna play with a classic one, what I often do with high school students. So before my son was born, I could have made very easy choices of eating everything that I was unhealthy and being inactive, getting type 2 diabetes. That was within my power to do. And if I had a partner that had those same choices, they show now that the child gets born with what? Type 2 diabetes. Yeah, thanks, mum and dad. So, of course, I want what's best for my son, and some days I'm like, yeah, I that's there's a piece of cheese I want to go towards. But then other days I need the motivation that, you know, if God is my witness, my child is going to be born healthy.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:00

When I was on special forces selection, I was the oldest guy there. Everyone thought you're too old. Okay. 30 was a maximum allowable age to get into the special forces. And some days, and we have 28 days of selection course, right? SEALs have a hell week, we got a hell month. All right, I'll just drop that one out there for a bit of ego. That's true. The point I'm trying to make here is some days I was doing selection because I wanted to wear the be a commando, because that's the cheese I was after. But some days I'm like, fuck the commando shit. I'm too tired to even want that. But my blessing was a former boss of mine was an absolute prick. Yeah, and if I stopped doing selection, I would have to go back to that prick. And I'm like, as God is my witness, that is not happening. And it was like I it was genuine power when I needed it, because that was the smell of my cat. So I I invite people to really get tactile. What would life be like if you had things exactly as you wanted them to? You know, whether you want to focus on your kids or yourself, but also if you made choices that were out of alignment with who you were, how bad it could get. Yeah, how hard it would be just to get up and move around. You your skin would freaking stink. You know, this is very possible, you know, with the choices we make. So so to give yourself a double the chance, the cheese is only gonna get you so far some days, but other days it's that smell of the cat that's gonna go, as God is my witness, that ain't gonna happen. Yeah, so that's I'm just giving people uh a powerful access. And you're gonna own this yourself, hopefully, you know, when we're not here, so you can, you know, you're not just powerful when you're listening to Josh and Tim. You you're accessing this underneath your own skin, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:03

Yeah, 100%. It's that dream and that nightmare. It's the dream or the my nightmare, right? This is what I don't want my life to look like. And if I keep doing these habits, doing these things, making these choices, my life will look like this, right? Versus if I make these choices, my life will look like that. And you know those current choices that you bring now are gonna be tougher, right? But you're gonna get so much ROI on those choices in the long run versus though that nightmare, right? You can make those very comfortable choices. Like you said.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:44

I wouldn't say that there they're only hard choices if you're not seeing the million dollar return on the$20. You're if you're they're only hard off. Shit, I gotta spend$20 and you're not focusing on the two million, that's that's when it gets hard. And eventually you'll train yourself to go, you know what, this is so worthwhile. This is in fact who I am. So I'm sorry to jump in there, jump.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:04

No, no, please jump in because I mean that's a great perspective of like I'm I'm not even thinking about the current moment or the the current investment that I'm making. I'm thinking about the return. I'm thinking about the return that I'm gonna get based off of when I make these choices. That way, it's an automatic choice, right? It's a no-brainer. I'm gonna get this in return, so I might as well make this choice. And and it doesn't become hard per se, right? It actually becomes fairly easy or simple.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:37

The only hard thing is is letting go of the disempowered thoughts that don't want you to do that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:45

They've been living there, they've been taking up all this energy, and they fight for their survival, you know. And that and that's why when it comes to breath work, often we need to pinch our fingers to to focus on it. Okay. Yeah, often we need to be guided to go to sleep properly in our breathing, or have that guidance there when we're first waking up, and then it you access, oh, I'm just listening to someone say breathe in, I'm just listening to someone say breathe out. So simple, but that's that's where the magic happens.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:18

Yeah, yeah, 100%. 100%. Man, it's so much that I feel like we've gone through. I can't even remember kind of everything that we went through. We went through a lot.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:30

We Josh, we could do a part two to this. Yeah, we can do it. We can. I'm open to that. As long as we're adding value and we're giving people permanent access to power, part two is not unreasonable.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:43

You know, I actually want to talk about that before we go. You talked about you know, the gift of giving somebody something permanent, and I think we can all do that, right? Before we hopped on the podcast, like, hey, uh, before we jump on, we want to give folks something that they can take away and actually use on their own for the rest of their life if they choose. And yeah, and so I mean, I was just thinking about, you know, when I go into day-to-day conversations, maybe I meet somebody and give them some advice to give them something permanent that they can use that I learned along the way, right? So I don't know, I would love to learn your perspective on that. And sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:25

Well, Josh, when you spend the time needed to become an energetic millionaire, your presence with that person, when they feel safe, when they can drop their guard, because because let me tell you that the most valuable thing on this planet is a true friend. And there's a dynamic that happens around a true friend that we need to speak to right now. Around a true friend, let's just picture your true friend. You can drop your guard and you can just go, this is me, warts and all, and you're cool with it, right? And when we can, we don't have to be everyone's you know, true friend. We can we can give them a safe space where they can feel that they can drop their guard because we're not trying to control the outcome. And we're not trying to manipulate them because guess what? I've filled up my own cup, and I and and I so I can hold space with you. So this this one third of your day invested in yourself is for you just to hold space with another person, and that person gets the joy of being around somebody who's who's got no agenda, just being himself, yeah. And if if you're in a situation where someone is talking more and they're feeling listened to, just watch their energy go whoop and and feeling known. And and this is this is the gift we can give others, and I and it doesn't have to cost you anything other than the investment in yourself, because if I know if I don't fill my needs first, if I feel like I don't have enough physical stuff in my life, if I don't have enough intimacy, if I don't have enough connection to spirit, you know, connection to my animals, then when I'm interacting with others, those deficits show up. And my incompleteness is in that space because I'm trying to feel my sense of lack from another thing outside of me. And that other person picks up on that, and that's when the guards go up, because I got to protect myself, right? But if you can genuinely go, oh man, I've just satisfied all this. I'm just I can genuinely hold space with people, no strings attached, just watch everything go. Okay, so so as much as we're talking right now and we had to be precise about certain techniques, I don't give advice per se. I give access for them to flow into states where they can they can access their power. And that can be as simple as having no agenda. It it really doesn't need to be that long. Five minutes of letting that person know that they're listened to, or sending somebody a good morning. Here's a if if someone wants to try something, two words, send it to a circle, you might just say, good morning, Craig, Bruce, whatever. Okay, and and and just send those words, and they're like, Oh shit, good morning, hey, you know, and and just that acknowledgement of another person, having them feel seen is is gives them energy capital. What they do with that's up to them. But that to me, pouring that energy into that space, letting them, it's sort of like the starter motor in the car. So you know, when you turn the key in the car and the and that first starter motor spins rapidly, and then that kicks over the whole engine. You what I love doing is giving people that starter motor energy. Okay, it's it's not words or advice or anything new, but giving them that little spark of energy where they go boom and then everything else kicks in. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost like that espresso, you know. I think about giving somebody a shot of espresso. I want to be that shot of espresso for somebody's life to get them going, right? But that starter energy and then they take over, right? They take over. No, I I love that. And then, like you said, no agenda, no stranger attached. Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:29

Because that's so rare. So rare. I I can't put fuel or gas in my car without having an agenda of marketing shoved in my eyes. Yeah. You know, so so to actually have no agenda with people is is really refreshing and and quite uh quite rare.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:45

You know?

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:46

Yeah, it's a different energy, it's a lighter energy. And that only, like you said, when you do the work of being that energetic millionaire and having that that energy in you, where you really don't, you really don't need anything. You you're kind of good either way. And you're not looking to control outside outcomes to make your inner world feel better, right? Your inner world is already good, and what's going on on the outside, you're good either way, right? So I love it. Tim, where can people find you? Where can people get in touch with you, continue to follow your journey? We'll probably need a part two at some point, because I feel like I can just talk to you until it's nighttime over there.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:32

So well, I I'm so appreciative of the technology, technological age we have. All right. So I'm in I'm in Brisbane, Australia. Where are you right now?

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:45

Chicago, Chicago, Illinois.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:47

Chicago, okay, right. Probably probably dark over there, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:51

If so, so this is where you have to realize the power you have as human beings. When we make other people feel connected, their energy goes up. And we're on different sides of the planet right now, but we're communicating and we're both super energized. I know I am, and it seems like you know you are too. And we can only hope that that the energetic space we've created is flowing out to others. Now, for those people who want to flourish this out in their own time, I've created a very easy way to turn your bed into a cloud tonight and then turn it into a trampoline in the morning. And all you have to do is tell it when you want to sleep, when you want to wake up, because busy people just want something that sort of falls out of their phone and gives it to them, right? If you just go into your phone right now, doesn't matter if it's Android or Smart, go into the app store and look up three very important words. Breath work, first word, in bed. You look up those three words, tell it when you want to download it, obviously. Tell it when you want to sleep, when you want to wake up, and it it you can choose a 28-day free option if you want to just test it. But if you want to have the experience of power of your own breath, your own resources, because the the app's not the powerful thing in the equation, your lungs the the guided experience of the Breath Working Bed app will have you realize we don't own lungs, we own a medicine cabinet with a lot of different shelves. And if you can be one of the few people that connect to your breath as you go into your unconscious and as you're waking up in the morning, you're gonna be one of the few people knowing their own sovereign power.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:04

This is, and I'm taking a look at it now. 28 28-day free trial, and it's something to follow. I mean, this is this is I mean, if folks got a chance to experience what I experience in the breath, right? This is a very simple app that I'm taking a look at right now. I have it on my iPad right now, 28-day free trial, and it looks uh welded up. Obviously, you know, like I told you, built apps, and being able to take a look at this, I'm like, man, this is a this is a pretty cool app that you got here. And it works on my iPad too. So you you've done things with iPad as well. So it for folks that don't know, you you have to develop an app that works for the iPad as well. And so for it to work on the iPad, it's pretty legit. So perfect. This breathwork app breath work is one word, and then I'll make sure that I put this this link in the footnotes of this episode so folks can take a look at it. But if you want to be, like you mentioned, an energetic millionaire, I love what did you say? You said a trampoline jumping out the bed, but what did you say?

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:18

You literally tonight, if you trial this, you will turn your bed into a cloud tonight. And if and if by chance you wake up at 2 a.m., this is gonna be your best friend. Because I know me, when if if I if this is how I develop this in the middle of hell, I discovered something that worked, and it worked every freaking time, you know, and and that's why I thought, well, it would be if you do find something that works, you've got to find ways to give other people access. And this is what my my sort of work is. And again, I'll say this to start with: it's not a it starts with getting an awesome night's sleep and feeling awesome within yourself, and then it turns into seeing all these seeds of greatness flourishing, and they were always there, they were just waiting for you to improve the soil, to improve the sleep. And the world we live in, you know, if there's a tree with the trunk in the wrong shape or the not not having the fruit that they want, everyone looks for what's obvious. But if you really understand trees, you'll go into the soil, you improve that. So, what I do isn't particularly spectacular, right? You can't show off having a good night's sleep walking down the beach, all right? But but those who are listening right now will see that everything grows out of your sleep.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:43

Yeah, you go into the soil, you go into the soil of it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:34:48

Unseen, man. Unseen.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:49

Yeah, and it's the sleep. And and we we we didn't even get a chance to really go into the sleep. And remember, I before we even hit record, I was like, sleep is what I want to talk to. But I think, but I I think, first of all, I definitely want to bring you back on to really dive into sleep, why it's important, and why folk folks struggle with it, the benefits of it, and breath work of uh before you go to sleep and waking up, the the effects of what they can do. So I got a ton of I got a lot of questions when it comes to just sleep itself, too.

SPEAKER_00: 1:35:29

So perfect, happy to do that. Although it would be a great experience for those people who dive into that app and get that experience. Yeah, then when we do this next program, people are gonna be like, oh, that's what the guy was talking about. You know what I mean? So you can you can you can have that lived experience. I really encourage people to to to do that. Yeah, I can't I can't do what you do, but if I can you know improve the quality of your sleep, then you know you're gonna bring your gifts into the world and it's gonna be so much more awesome place to live in.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:59

Yeah, 100%. 100%. Well, Tim, this has been uh man, this has been a great podcast. I mean, uh I mean, we've been on here for for over an hour already. Have we? I think so, right? Uh almost two hours, right? Well at least at least when me and you jumped on together, it's been two hours. I don't know if we've hit record for two hours. But man, uh, you know, like I said, just the magic of a conversation and just adding value. And I think we've done a lot of that today. And you just share so much gold and so many things that folks can take away from this this episode. So I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:36:39

I highly recommend people listen to this a couple of times because it there's you know, Josh and I, we we talk very quick energy exchange. So if you listen to this again, you'll get layers and layers of stuff. And and remember, integrate that breath, that that power button breathing, because that that is instant access, my friends, to your own power. Okay, and if we don't own our own power, someone else is gonna own it. Yeah, so you know, I'm just giving you a bit of cheese smell and cat smell there to um to access as we as we part our ways.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:17

I love it. I know I'm taking it with me. This is permanent for me. So I love it. I'll take it. I take it. Well, Tim, we appreciate you and you know, looking forward to to having you back on the show. I love it.