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Melodies N' Memories: Music Media
Hosts Jillianne & Aaron R. Shriver are proud to bring their Music Interview & Positivity podcast to listeners and viewers alike. Aaron started the podcast in 2019, inspired by his long-time love for Eric Church and being a proud member of his fan club, "The Church Choir”. Through the show, he wanted to show appreciation for music and artistry, as well as create a platform for those with a positive attitude to share their stories. Over the course of the podcast, Aaron has become friends with a few guests, all of whom come on to discuss their experiences, share stories and even perform some of their own music. As the show grows, so too have the related projects - these now include concert reviews, Live Music Photography & Videos, and a positivity-focused blog. Every Monday at 7 pm Central, tune into Melodies N' Memories: Music Media on Facebook and YouTube and it'll be available on all streaming services the following day. Join Jillianne and Aaron to hear from a new guest every week!
Melodies N' Memories: Music Media
Drew Green | Singer/Songwriter
On tonight's episode, we're thrilled to have the talented singer-songwriter Drew Green joining us as we explore the melodies and memories that have shaped his life. Hailing from a tree farm in Tennessee, Drew's love for country music sparked during his childhood, listening to the tunes of Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn, and The Monkees. Throughout our conversation, Drew shares his journey from picking up a guitar at 13 years old to writing songs with some of the greats in the industry.
Drew's passion for music led him down a path of honing his craft in various genres and eventually stepping foot in Nashville for the first time. We discuss the role his wife and friends played in supporting his dreams. Plus, we dive into the impact fatherhood has had on his music, particularly with the success of his heartfelt song "Good Old Man Dude" on TikTok.
Finally, join us as we chat with Drew about his touring experiences, including his first time playing at Joe's Bar in Chicago and discovering the joys of deep-dish pizza. We also touch on his bucket list venues like the Opry and Bridgestone Arena, and the lessons he hopes to instill in his son through his music. Don't miss this inspiring and heartwarming discussion with Drew Green as we celebrate his dedication, hard work, and passion for the world of music.
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Speaker 1:There you go, nailed it. Haven't done it in a few weeks. You nailed it, no. So I'm really excited for tonight's show. I've been talking with Drew for a little bit now to get him on the show, finally just talk to him. I love this guy's story. I mean, he's local, not too far away from grew up, not too far from Nashville, so it'll be really cool to sit down and we'll talk with him. So tonight we're going to welcome in Drew Green for episode 165.
Speaker 1:Drew is a Tennessee native. He's a son of a tree farmer and a dedicated family man. His love of country music was sparked when he was sitting on a tractor as a kid And since then he has dedicated long hours and years of honing his craft as a singer songwriter. Drew knows that it takes hard work and dedication to stay passionate about music, but for him it's all worth it in the end. Drew is a shining example of the power of staying true to your passion and never giving up. Tonight We are honored to discuss the melodies and memories that make up his journey. We're going to bring Drew Green on. What's up, buddy, how you doing. What's up, man? Man, i'm so glad to have you on. I know we've been talking for a few months now and I'm just excited to because, like I said, i love your journey. I can't wait to be able to talk a little bit about it tonight, man. So how you doing, and how's the busy time of year right now for you?
Speaker 4:Dude, it's been crazy right now, to be honest, but we are surviving, we are thriving. Man, it's been good. We just got off the road. I literally just landed like four hours ago from Portland, played with Sam Hunt this weekend at the NASCAR race. It was really cool.
Speaker 1:And just on the road man, just on the road, a lot Man it's good, though I mean especially after a few years ago, when no one who tours are going on is that. I love to see how many tours are thriving this year. Just see how many people are coming out and it's crazy, man.
Speaker 4:Everybody said last year was going to be the year you know, but I think this year. Yeah, for me, for me it's this year for sure. Like this year has just been great. All the shows are like really great.
Speaker 1:It's awesome. So we like to kick the show back the same way every week and just kind of get your earliest music memory. man Kind of growing up, what do you kind of remember? just your parents listening to.
Speaker 4:Alan Jackson My dad was. I think Alan Jackson's 1994 album still and my dad's tape deck, probably Because the earliest that I can remember is Alan Jackson, brooks and Dunn. My mom was a big fan of the Monkeys.
Speaker 1:You had some monkey blood in you.
Speaker 4:I knew all those songs too. I think my first CD was the Monkeys, but at the same time Alan Jackson's probably my first memory of music. I guess In my head. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what I remember.
Speaker 1:So you grew up on a tree farm right outside, about 90 minutes outside Nashville. Did you used to visit Nashville when you were younger, like your parents taking you into town or like this kind of somewhere? you just didn't really go.
Speaker 4:No man, i felt, you know, i kind of feel like everybody else that moved to Nashville Really like even though I didn't have to, like you know, pack my stuff up, but it was like it was the first time I felt. I remember being in Nashville was the first time I stepped foot on stage at Tootsies. So it was like I really I don't remember any time as a kid which we worked. I grew up on a farm, so like I feel like we just worked my whole life. But I don't remember ever going to Nashville, which I'm sure I did for something. You know, like I'm like I'm sure I went to Bridgestone and saw something or I went to, but I just can't remember. All I remember is like the first time being downtown I was 21. I was like I just turned 21.
Speaker 1:I think so, All right. So that brings us to kind of our next question. Do you remember your first concert on kind of what? what kind of experience did you take away from that?
Speaker 4:My first concert was just Shanae 20 and Brooks and Don, i think, and there was. this had to be a long time ago because they were planning where I'm from, which is McMemville, which is a really small town, and I can't imagine them ever coming there So like because it was. it's so small, so they had to be just getting started. So it had to be you know, early, you know, like 1990, probably. I was born in 88. This was probably 1990, which is a long time ago. That's my first concert.
Speaker 1:Hey, you're talking my language. I was born in 82. So I know how that goes. I was turned 40 last year, so yeah.
Speaker 4:But you tell me now it's like wait, shanae 20 and Brooks and Don did a concert together. Like what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like an awesome joke.
Speaker 4:It happened today.
Speaker 1:You know we have to be like a stadium. What happened today? It was like the Civic Center in.
Speaker 4:McMemville, tennessee, like 3000 people probably. Maybe, maybe I can't imagine it being, i don't know.
Speaker 1:Did you think that, man, that's kind of what I wanted to do when you saw like Brooks and Don up there and stuff that first time?
Speaker 4:I was too young. I was too young to say yes to that, but I know I've had the dream of wanting to do it since I was 12 is what I say. But my mom says I could sing before I could talk, so it's like I've been singing my whole life. I think I sang like brand new man by Brooks and Don on my grandpa's deathbed. I mean, i was singing. I was singing since before I could talk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Really, I mean. So when did you first pick up your guitar? I mean, how did you, how did you acquire your first guitar?
Speaker 4:I was 13. I was at the time I was going to church. I remember this guy named Wayne and my church who could play every Creed song there was. I thought that was the coolest thing in the world And he played at church And I wanted to. I was a singer, so I was all I want to sing in a church. So I picked up a acoustic and I learned you know some licks that way. But then I started getting into girls and started songwriting a little bit. So I started, i started writing songs for some girls And that's kind of really what moved it along And I wound up joining a like a rock band and high school And I was just. I was just a rhythm guitar player. I wasn't even a singer and was like doing nothing. Country at the time I was listening to country And I'm pretty eclectic. I like everything you know hip hop, rock. At the time I was into Nirvana, you know, and some grunge, some grunge stuff. So it's like a. I've been into everything, yeah.
Speaker 1:I definitely was researching a little bit for the show. I kind of learned that you start playing at 13. And that's kind of when I first started taking guitar lessons. I don't play anymore, but I remember like the first licks I played was at Enorsan man by Metallica.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Stuff like that.
Speaker 4:That's everyone's top five probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i was playing this old like strat that I was playing, but it was cool because, like in high school, you formed a garage band and what kind of music were you guys playing? It was probably the creative Metallica stuff where you guys was jamming out. Were you playing originals? Cause you said you started right around the same time.
Speaker 4:We were playing a lot of Polo Mudd, which is crazy because I just met West Scantland from Polo Mudd in the airport last night, which was like my I've seen. I've seen Polo Mudd like 20 times.
Speaker 3:So I'm like.
Speaker 4:I'm like in the airport, I don't get starstruck. I mean I've met everybody in country.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I've met a lot of athletes, but like Peyton Manning and West Scantland, and there's been a few people that I was just like I don't know what to say to this guy right now Like he don't know how much he impacted my life growing up. You know, like, like, as my teenage years were, polo Mudd.
Speaker 1:So I felt that way when I met Aaron Lewis for the first time. I was a diehard stain guy. I love stained And the first time I got to meet. Aaron Lewis. I was like dude, this guy's the shit dude Yeah, yeah, they're in, they're in.
Speaker 4:I saw them at Starwood. Oh yeah, they're in a bunch of times.
Speaker 1:So yeah, they used to do at least play with Kid Rock and those guys back in the day a lot. So that's cool, man. So you started writing before you wrote. Did you have a journal poetry, anything like that? Just kind of dabble a little bit in writing before you start, dove into songwriting.
Speaker 4:Not really man. I was kind of in, i was wanting to join that rock band and I was kind of I looked up to the lead singer who wrote all their songs. I guess that's kind of where I got the bug. But I had only wrote maybe like four songs before I started doing it. Okay, like professionally I guess, like all the time you know, i guess like dedicating my soul to it, but I hadn't wrote. I didn't write that much And I think I only wrote about four songs in high school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did you ever look at like the liner notes and see like the songwriter names and stuff? Did you ever have like any dream songwriters or just not really knew that was a thing?
Speaker 4:Yeah, i knew a little bit Well, more so as I started getting into it. I was probably in college when this happened, but, like Craig Wiseman and Brett James, who's my publisher Some of the bucket list guys who I've got to write with now, which is crazy to say. But you get, you know, you get jaded in Nashville chasing the dream so much you get wind up doing everything And it's like but if you'd have told me I'd have done that when I was 18, i would have said you're crazy, you know.
Speaker 1:But Yeah, man, it was like me, like I remember looking in like mid 90s to see Casey Botherd's name all the time. Like man, who is this guy? This name just keeps popping up in these albums.
Speaker 4:Everywhere.
Speaker 1:And so this day, man, that guy's wrote some of the greatest songs, but he's one of the best out there. Yeah, man, have you got a chance to write with him at all, or is he a bucket list?
Speaker 4:I actually had a day. I had a day planned with him and I had to cancel it because I was. I was in California or doing some. I was doing some of the art of stuff you know, like that's. That's the. The hard part is I spent.
Speaker 4:I spent probably six years full time just being a songwriter and going through. You know, you sign a publisher deal and they put you through all these motions of going through writing with everyone and you wind up writing with everyone. But then the day came for me where it's like are you ready to do the hardest thing? And it was my. For me it was so quick, but me it was like six years of preparation. But it was like, hey, do you want to deal? Okay, cool, here's your record Bam done. Like, okay, you're busy, as, like you know, it's like a whole new job, it's literally an entire new job that you just added on to your full time songwriting job. And so I got to the point where I had to stop songwriting. Like last year I didn't. I wrote probably half as much as I did the past five years before that.
Speaker 1:So was there a time when you were maybe at a right and just wasn't going well and you guys all just had to screw it? We're going to go out and hang out and do something, and maybe a song popped up that night where you guys were just hanging out.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, all the time. No, there's only been a few times where it's been like a really bad day. You know like, well, we just didn't. I can. I can count on one hand how many times we've been like let's just go home, boys. You know like and maybe I can, i may be, only I can only think of two times where it's been like we didn't get nothing, not even a word. You know like, there's been, there has been those, but in my six or seven years of doing it like full time that's only happened about twice, two or three times. It's not anyone's fault, really.
Speaker 4:I think, sometimes it's just in the air that day.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, dude, i feel that for sure. So. So you started playing. We were talking a little bit about college gigs. You had the three or four original songs. Along came the owner of Tootsies man. How did all this come about? Did he just catch you out out on a bout, or?
Speaker 4:Steve was at Steve's manatee owns Tootsies, which I didn't even know was. I didn't even know what that was at the time. I was probably my junior year of college, which I wasn't talking, i wasn't even 21,. I was at a bar. So I was. I had a fake ID, probably I was. I was with my fraternity brothers.
Speaker 4:We were probably playing like trivia, eating wings, drinking beer, and this guy came in and he wanted to hear live music. And I knew the owner a little bit, just enough to know, or he was from my hometown, so he knew just enough, cause I went to college, you know, 30 minutes from where I was from anyway. So I went to Tennessee Tech and Cookville and he knew that I had played a little bit. So he asked me to come go play guitar and I got up there and I'd been drinking, just enough to say, okay, i guess. And I got up there. I hadn't played in three years, you know, and at the top of that I wasn't a singer. I hadn't really sang in front of anybody ever really I sing all the time, but not like you know actually. And so I got up there and I sang some like Matchbox 20 and, i think, some Alan Jackson and some Goo Goo Dolls and whatever I knew like just off plan. I hadn't played. I wasn't even that good at guitar to be on I still ain't that good at guitar.
Speaker 4:But I got up there and I played and he came over to me and was like man, i really want to give you a job If you're interested. I thought it's like 1130 PM. I thought he was, you know, three, six three, six, like.
Speaker 6:Just thought he was like me, you know.
Speaker 4:And I'm like okay, okay. Yeah, you're gonna get to call at 9AM for my son. You want, I want you to come play at Tutsis And I'm like all right, And I got to call at 9, I won the next morning. Like all the time He was like, can you come in today? And I was like yeah, so I just didn't go to class that day.
Speaker 4:I just dropped everything I was doing right then and drove up to Nashville and I walked into Tutsis for the first time. You know, i'm in my cowboy boots, i'm walking and I really don't. I'm thinking I'm going in for an interview to be, honest, because he didn't tell me anything. So I didn't practice, i didn't learn nothing, i didn't, i didn't do nothing. So, yeah, i walk in and this old guy walks up to me and says you ready, cowboy? And they just threw me up on the stage And next thing I know I'm playing sweet home.
Speaker 4:Alabama with full band at 11AM in the morning, messing it up?
Speaker 3:I think I messed it up really bad and was like well, i'm done there.
Speaker 4:They don't want nothing to do with me. You know, And somebody came by and requested good directions by Billy, Billy Currington.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 4:I loved that song. I remember singing it as a kid sitting on a tractor, you know, like I knew I thought I knew every word to it, but I pulled it up on my phone just in case, you know, and I did a pretty good job on that one. Everybody, like you know, clapped and I got like three more requests and they were like can you? you know, they kind of kicked me off the stage and asked me if I could come back that night at six And I can't believe they kept me. you know, but I was like oh well, i don't.
Speaker 4:I know about four songs. Can y'all give me like a set list? And they gave me a set list and I went out to my truck and I sat there all day learning everything And I so I sat there for about you know, six, six hours learning all the songs. And I came back that night and sang with a. I had a girl singer, so she kind of led that you know, showed me the ropes of how to do everything, run the tip jar, and I did that for about six months and I wasn't making any money because I was driving two hours every day, i wasn't going to class, i was failing everything. I was failing everything you know. So I quit. I quit music altogether and I started playing acoustic shows at college, you know, at the local bars there. I started getting this really big following, like really big, and it was just like you know. maybe I can do this.
Speaker 4:I was the only country acting town at the time.
Speaker 1:Were you going to college at?
Speaker 4:Tennessee Tech, cookville, and there was this bar called Spankies and it was right on campus, nice, and it was like college night And that's when I got my first like opportunity to play there and the cops got called like three times. There's a line out the back people hanging like hanging off the rafters. It was absolutely insane And I was like.
Speaker 1:You know what I think.
Speaker 4:I'm, i can do this for a living, you know, and that's when, as soon as that happened, you know, from like about right then on, it's been my, you know, been my mission and my goal, my main, my main dream, and which you know. I worked at a bank for two years. After that I got married and got out of school, but at the same time I was still doing a little bit of this and a little bit of that And finally I quit the bank and got right into doing. I went back to Tutsis and they remembered me for some reason And I got back in there and I stayed there for like four more years And that's really where I got my entertainment chops, i guess when I started writing, and where it's where it really started me. I have a lot to Tutsis for, a whole lot Steve Smith did a whole lot for me.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, man. Okay, we, i have heard in the notes you know I'm meeting Hunter Phelps while working out there And that's kind of where you kind of sparked that somewhere in relationship with him. And you still it's right with him till the stage, don't you Oh?
Speaker 4:yeah, we're good buddies. I just talked to him like 30 minutes ago.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, dude.
Speaker 4:But yeah, we, he, i owe a lot to him too, man. I mean he was, i was on stage and I was opening for him. I played the six to 10 shift and he played. He was always working at the bank all day, going and then singing from six to 10, driving home doing that all day for about two years. And then he heard a song that I wrote for my wife and my guitar player string broke on the last song And he was like they're like just play one acoustic. So it was like a dead Tuesday night. There was probably four people It was probably four people And I was playing and I just played one that I wrote for my wife and he asked me if I wrote it And he came to my, he drove all the way out to lead in the next day and wrote with me And we wrote every day for like a year together.
Speaker 4:We were best friends man And he was, you know, a little bit ahead of me And he he signed a deal with Ashley Gorley, which is, like you know, the biggest songwriter of all time, and he's just absolutely on fire as a songwriter right now. I'm proud of him. He's one of my best friends.
Speaker 1:So before you left the bank too, you're a firm was a big promotion of the bank, weren't you?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I just got promoted to like manager and trainer, Like I was going to have my own branch. You know, like in, it was like a nine month program where they give you your own branch and your own, you know, be the manager of my own location or whatnot, But I quit the next day. I just I had already been thinking about it and I talked a lot about it. It was just on my heart, you know, and I had to support it too, so that was awesome. It was everything, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's one thing I want to kind of touch on because I wrote this down. My wife here, she's a nurse, she's a nursing leadership. You've been doing it for years And that's the reason why I get kind of get to do photography and do this And I worked at dispensary during the day part time. But she lets me kind of chase my dreams on the side too. And it's been kind of cool because when I was reading and researching this you kind of were in the same boat a little bit.
Speaker 4:Your wife's a nurse practitioner. She helped you, she made all the money. That's why I was kind of kidding.
Speaker 1:I wasn't really saying that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'll be straight up honest. You made all the money and I spent all the money.
Speaker 1:But like, even when you were kind of doing some work and you're getting some money and kind of working on touching stuff, she's like you just kind of bank that money And that's kind of I get my, i get tips where I work at part time. I work at dispensary here in Illinois. We're between or in Chicago area, so I work at dispensary during the day and we get tips out there And that's kind of like my money to put back into what I do. Like I do concert photography and then do this podcast and everything too. So it's really cool that she lets me, she's flexible and lets me do that And I'm kind of help the kids and do the dad thing all day long too. We have a six year old and nine year old, so it's all. It's an interesting day around here. Summer just started. But dude, just going back to that, i mean with her support and everything, what do you? what does that mean to you, man?
Speaker 4:I mean at the time I was, I mean I probably took it for a little more for granted than I do now, for sure. But, dude, i mean it was everything. I would literally work at the bank all day And then, when I quit the bank, i would write songs all day and then sing songs all night And I'd get home at 3 30 in the morning and be back at about 10 or 11 the next morning, and every single day, seven days a week, not five every day. And every song that I wrote I probably demoed, because every song I wrote I thought I wanted, you know, i thought was good and I would spend the money on a demo. So all the money I made at Tussies went to beer and demos. Really, because I mean because I was drinking it That's just what I always say. Like you know, it was providing me like the times to write songs.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 4:I just she was always there, you know, working She works harder than I do, which is I've never I can't imagine anyone work harder than me And she does.
Speaker 4:She's a hard worker And she's been supportive of me the whole way And it's been crazy cause we've been together for I guess about 11 years now And we married right out of college And it's been pretty crazy to see like me grow, you know, and like her support change as we get into these final, like these bigger like I just played in my first arena show last week with Sam Hunt, you know like my first like sold out, like just, you know, the biggest show that someone in my platform gets to play, pretty much, you know, and it's like and I got to bring her with me And we had I know I'm on the bus and like you know, she's like it's her first time on a tour bus, it's her first time doing anything like me and my seeing my whole crew meeting my whole team And it's like it was kind of really cool for me for her to like seeing her face be like wow, like holy shit, like He's really doing it, the crew is doing it, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 4:It was like it was the first moment for like it was really good for us.
Speaker 1:I'm sure you've had a couple of moments like that too where I'm going around. I got to shoot shoot Luke Combs a couple of weeks ago in Pittsburgh And that was kind of cool man And that's huge. So yeah, it was the big stadium tour And I got to do the whole work with his photographer and stuff and run around and do all that And it was just, it was amazing dude. So it's cool to be able to do some stuff, it pays off. Yeah, so I love that man.
Speaker 4:It's just a team. Just a team, just like everything else is.
Speaker 1:So in everything like well, I kind of read about it, She gave you pretty much a five year, five years to make it in 10 year town man, She kind of gave you a half year.
Speaker 4:I mean she was like you got five years. It wasn't like that. It was like we both kind of said I mean, five years is long enough, right To have like any music success at all. And boy, I'll cut, barely cut it. Yeah, you're about four and a half months in.
Speaker 1:And then you got the call what was it from Hardy that bought Colorado, man, Florida, Georgia, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4:I was in the hospital, like wearing my scrubs, like literally. My wife was about to have a C-section And I'm like going into the room which I don't as my first child, so I didn't even know that my son was like 10 minutes away from being born. At the time I thought we had, you know, go through this process, but no, she's like, like she's already getting injected. Like it's like, it's like right now It's quick, She's like yo, what's up, man?
Speaker 4:And he's like what are you doing? I'm like I'm having a baby, what are you doing? And he was like yo, florida Georgia line is going to cut this song. At the time Kid Rock and Jason Aldean were gonna. I had already got a call like a couple of weeks before that from Hardy or 101 saying that Kid Rock and Jason Aldean were going to cut it Like as a duo, and I was like that's just killer. You got to also remember at the time I had probably wrote in about 1500 to 2000 songs independent, no publishing deal, getting paid $0 to write any song I've ever wrote in my entire life. And so I'm like wait, my first cut's gonna be Aldean and Kid Rock. And he calls me I'm having a baby. And he calls me.
Speaker 5:no, florida Georgia line just took it, they're cutting like 100%.
Speaker 4:I'm like and I'm like the huge.
Speaker 1:FGL fam.
Speaker 4:I love Tyler Hubbard. He's one of my like he's, i'm a. He inspired me a lot too as a songwriter. He's one of the best songwriters in town.
Speaker 1:They started a whole new genre of music, dude. I feel like a whole new genre of music. He writes like the best. I mean he writes. He's a hard worker man.
Speaker 4:They both are, And they were they, just they changed the world.
Speaker 1:Yep, they're amazing songwriters or innovators.
Speaker 4:They changed a lot, you know, and I'm like, holy crap, all right, cool. And then I'm like I got to go And I'm grabbing a baby. And so it was like three weeks later they surprised me. I was riding with Hunter and Hardy comes walking across the street drinking a beer And I'm like what are you doing? Like downtown, like Midtown, nashville, I'm like what are you doing? And he's like you're done, it's about to change brother.
Speaker 4:And they took me over across the street And I got to watch Joy Moy and the whole crew cut Colorado and like the whole thing which is really full circle now, because that was my first cut, which led to me a publishing deal, which led to me a record deal, and now I'm kind of working on my own little album kind of thing, or not a hundred percent, sure you, how I want, how I want to present it. But I called Hardy like a couple of months ago and said, you know, like I feel like Colorado was the thing that started me. Like it's kind of like my first child, in a way, it's like my first baby, and I wanted to kind of go with me and Florida Georgia line didn't single it I'm thinking about putting on my record And Hardy was like man, you beat me to it. I was thinking the same thing, and so we just went in together and recorded it together, and so I'm going to put out Colorado featuring Hardy, which is going to be killer, you know, and I haven't I don't think we've he's mentioned Hicks tapes, put it on Hicks tapes, but I think I'm going to put it out myself on my record If I can.
Speaker 4:If I can't, that's cool too. But he's the boss, probably. You know he's farther along than me.
Speaker 1:Whatever he, wants to do. That's awesome. I love the Hicks tapes. All you know is those man. I'm a big fan of. I'm a huge fan of Ashlyn Craft dude And that last one she had on the last rocker was awesome.
Speaker 1:So, all right man. Well, yeah, dude, it's just crazy Like those last 24 hours, those 24 hours of your life, just how quick everything changed. And tell me a little bit, before we kind of move on, about being a dad at the time, because we kind of went through the same situation We got rushed into the C section, i got put scrubs on all this stuff. I had no clue what was going on. I was like you, i thought we had some time And all of a sudden next thing, i know I'm in a recovery room holding a baby and I'm running where my wife is. But tell me a little bit about just like that situation for you going through that for the first time, i mean it was by far the craziest.
Speaker 4:I guess if you don't believe in God or I'm not a preacher by any means, but that was the first time I was like wow, you know, like this is incredible, like we shoot. It was like real quick. You know, she had I forget what had happened, but something wrong happened And it was time to, like, you know, quick C section and it was just it was. He was, like, you know, wrapped around the core, all everything that you hear in stories, the bad stuff, you know, all that was like happened real quick on the one and It was just a. And the doctor like those doctors are amazing, you know, it's just like. I mean I guess they do it every day between me. I'm just like thank you so much, like all my hands and knees, like thanking I'm, you know, like It's a, it's a, it's a beautiful thing, for sure It was crazy, it was intense, i feel like.
Speaker 1:it was just like wow.
Speaker 4:God is. Wow, he's over here looking me.
Speaker 1:She's like why you guys talking about kind of like this I'm like cuz like you, don't you never you didn't get to see all that like what the guys went through. Did you get to cut the cord to afterwards like they get. Let you cut a little piece of it.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah they let me cut it like they already had it, like the tap or whatever. But they let me cut like a little piece of it. I got to cut a little little piece and this and that I'm like all right, that's cool, i'll do that.
Speaker 4:It was crazy man It was, it was awesome.
Speaker 1:The second one, we got the schedule. It was a breeze. We're in and we're out.
Speaker 1:So, But becoming a dad is kind of kind of wanted to go into this next segment. A good old man dude. That's kind of what led me to you. When I first heard that song I kind of really dig, dug into your backstory a little bit and started listening to you more of your songwriting stuff. I loved it, man. But when I heard good old man dude, it just changed. I quit drinking, be what. Three and a half years now I quit drinking and just kind of changed myself up. So when I heard that song I was like damn dude, this is really. It was hitting me. So I'm sure I'm one of the many dads that probably reached out to you this and that, but it had over 21 million streams on Spotify, dude. It became a tiktok sensation. I, when did you first see that song catching on? like how did you like kind of see that kind of going viral almost?
Speaker 4:Well, i knew when I wrote it that it was really special, and then it was gonna be something Like in my heart it was a number one. The second, we started riding it, like I'm like I think this is no matter Who sings it, i don't give a shit who it is, this is gonna be on, you know, the biggest of the biggest. I knew that this was my moment and And uh, but really I guess, to be honest, the second, like the night after I posted it was like the fuck was fucking insane. I mean, like literally eight hours, and to me posting it, there was already 23,000 people had already used it in their truck and the same doing the same video that it may have like put like Flashing the camera over to their kid, like in like like one line. They didn't even heard the song yet. It was literally just.
Speaker 3:I got it. It was a little section I.
Speaker 6:Won't need to be a little better if he's gonna want to be like me.
Speaker 4:That's all. They had one, one line, you know, and that was just like six million.
Speaker 4:That's crazy which is for country, for in country. That's like I don't think it might be the record still, i don't even know if it's one that's been over that I'm sure. I'm sure there is, but There was. It was a moment, for sure and it was just like Okay, this is the song, this is what we do, you know, and and this is still kind of where, like, the record labels and everybody are like kind of new To take, talk like what the hell are we doing?
Speaker 4:It's why it was a Kind of I'm like well, we need to be going radio.
Speaker 4:No, it's like, well, hold on, nobody knows who you are, you know, let's say, let's just chill out. It was a. It was a weird moment for me because it was like a lot Just beat every record at. On that day. I beat every record and country music history, i think, on tick tock and it was like, okay, cool, we're gonna be on the radio tomorrow, right, and that's just not how it works. It was insane, really, and but more importantly, the most importantly, the people that's touched and Which it was unplanned you know like it was just a true story about me and trying to.
Speaker 4:I was, i Was just thinking about little things. You know like me cutting back on dipping you know like, and me Because I found one I remember specifically leave out being like two year, like or You know, oh baby, and I left my dip out and he got, you know, he got into, didn't open it, but he was playing with me, i'm like what the hell am I doing?
Speaker 4:Like me coming home from to us He's at 3 30 in the morning, like, and I had been, you know, been drinking a little bit or whatever, just like little. That's not a little thing, but I got, i'm saying me me realizing that I need to change a little bit. And then the second day that I posted this song, i had probably Realistically like 500 messages from people that weren't in a good place in their life and it was like Just that one line, one line, and they didn't even heard the song. And the one line I'm getting messages from guys that are in prison. Somehow they get their tick talking in prison.
Speaker 3:That amazes me. I've seen it. I don't know how that happens. That shocks me.
Speaker 4:People tell me they're in prison. You know, i've got. I've got. I've got 11 months left And I know the first thing I'm gonna do when I come out It's gonna be a good dad, you know, whatever just little messes like that. That's like my dreams made, my job is done.
Speaker 1:I love that you wrote it with Lee Stark. I'm a huge fan of my boy too. With LV Shane. He was a part of that.
Speaker 4:They wrote that song beautiful. That's an old song. Yeah, we had all. We had all just started me, him and Russell and LV Yeah, there was a LV's a monster to.
Speaker 1:Russell's played a couple of our writers rounds. We do a nastro. Live oak.
Speaker 1:We love him to death. Man, he's amazing. So before we move on to our fun part of the night, i kind of want to ask you a couple last minute questions. One is we're based between Chicago Milwaukee And we share some pictures while we're talking tonight and a couple came up of you kind of hanging out a little Little pool in the basement of a venue. So I wanted to ask you, kind of like, when you went to the rave man, what do you think of that place for the first time? Oh, i'll go into the rave of Milwaukee.
Speaker 3:It's cool.
Speaker 4:I'll be, I'll be completely honest. I didn't know much that much about it until you know coming up to it. You know, and I'd seen that picture of Who was Matt Miller.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Mac Miller's autographs on the pool.
Speaker 4:I had seen that picture before and I didn't put two and two together Until I was standing in the pool like I'm like oh my god, this is it, this is the pool. This is like and, dude, it's creepy.
Speaker 1:Dude.
Speaker 4:I don't know, i don't. I'm not like a spook person. My manager, like you know, chase's ghost and stuff. I'm not. I'm not like I don't get really that scared of that kind of stuff. I'm like you know, i've heard stories and and I've got some ghost stories, but I don't, i don't know if I'm like a full-blown believer, you know. So it's like, but no, no, no, no, this pulls creepy. Yeah, it's, it's got vibes in it for sure, and they they got a security guard that sits down in there and That's his job is to just watch the pool. I'm like, why are you watching the pool? for there's nobody in here. I'm like there's something fishy going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're another few times.
Speaker 4:Definitely. It's definitely creepy, but the venues kick ass.
Speaker 3:It's a cool venue right.
Speaker 4:It's amazing What's the old Rockets three or four?
Speaker 1:levels. Yeah, I said that's the place. I saw it like it was limp biscuit Corn or no, let me have a limp biscuit corn and kid rock all the same night in that building in the ball.
Speaker 4:It was like 99 the green rooms are still decorated from when Prince came.
Speaker 1:Streets and stuff everywhere. Yeah, i mean, you're like what?
Speaker 4:is going on like this happened when he played here like that's how rich this dude is. He had like like glow, like I don't know. I was just like blown away, like like it was another moment where I'm like dude, like This is happening. I'm in a van, i'm in a van outside, but This is really cool in here.
Speaker 1:How was it playing Joe's bar for your first time in Chicago, i mean that place is so legendary dude.
Speaker 4:Joe's was crazy. It was coming right out of Kobe, so it was like a little bit, a Little bit crazy on the outside, like on the outside of Joe's you know, like you know, I was worried about someone breaking into the bus or something like it was just it was a little crazy at the time, but Joe's was, it was sold out. I Never had, you know, deep dish pizza like that. You know, i forget, i forget what's the what's the best place there?
Speaker 1:It's probably my nighties.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, man, it was insane. Each piece weighs like 10 pounds. That's my favorite, i mean I was like okay, my life is changed.
Speaker 1:What am?
Speaker 4:I doing. I don't even need pizza anymore here.
Speaker 1:The goal is to come in the night before and eat it the night before, so we don't eat it before you go on stage, because your night's ruined after you eat that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but no, it was just like the legendary as a, as a songwriter, wanted to be an artist's whole life. You know you hear about places and that's one of the top 10 places you hear about. You know it's by far, and that's not just me, i'll speak for every country artist in the in the business, for sure, that they everyone's heard about Joe's and that's where, like, that's where you cut your teeth, that's where, like, if you've played it, joe's, you're on your way up. You know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we live about 45 minutes from the Raven, 45 minutes from Joe's, so we're like perfect in the middle. We love it. It's funny, the very next pit picture I pulled up.
Speaker 4:The taco was really really cool, man, i enjoyed. That was my first time there. I went to Al Capone's house We had okay, yeah, you know, we haven't done that we, we should do that.
Speaker 4:Huge. I'm a huge gangster like fan. Like I got all like boardwalk Empire, all the shows you know, yeah, yeah, i'm a huge, i'm a huge fan. So I went to his house and like this guy came across the street. He knew he kind of saw what we were doing. You know, i'm gonna you gotta remember, i'm not gonna nine-man crew, so it's like a bunch of walking around with cameras. Right, you know I'm dancing out from his house. You know it's like like we're definitely something's going on. And he was, he was, he was telling us stories about. You know, He was like he would watch, he would watch his house for him while he was gone doing stuff and like let he'd call him And let him know when he could come back. And all this crazy I was, it was really cool.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna along with his manager. I like the whole goats chasing thing. Yeah, i got some cool stories too.
Speaker 3:That'd be awesome, just like the history She had such a strong history of, like you know.
Speaker 1:I'm sure your manager knows about, like the st Valentine's Day massacre And that place was like one of the most haunted areas in Chicago for long time.
Speaker 4:My manager is Brett James, who's the songwriter, so you get him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Halloween show started.
Speaker 4:Get more. He started, you know, get more to When?
Speaker 1:oh, hardy has some stories to. Hardy was talking about some.
Speaker 4:Kips got some crazy.
Speaker 1:It was his old house that kept you so worried and like the attic right. Yeah, Yes, but when?
Speaker 4:they signed me. When Corbin signed me that I spent my last month in that building and I've only got one story That's like doesn't even come close to some of their stories like kip lived there, Yeah. I keep would wake up and hear like someone sweeping the floors, like a party going on downstairs and walk downstairs And there's nothing there. Oh, thank you Good and but he was, like you know, sent, from what I've heard, that they said they're all friendly and stuff You gotta let me tell a story That's like I'll let him talk for me.
Speaker 4:One time I was leaving and the basement lot was on and I went inside, ruby, set the key code I'm downtown Nashville too, by the way. So it's like right behind winners and losers on midtown and I'll go down And I turned the lights off and I go back, set the keypad again, lock the door. It's like an old, old house, like Johnny Cash used to live there. Thank you, like so. Well, we live and I get back in my car, like my truck. I get back in my truck and I look down the last round again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i've always interesting. There's always cool hearing different things. Man, like I'm really big on the rhyming and like I've heard, oh, so many stories about the rhyming and I know you played there. It's kind of one of your favorite venues that you mentioned about. But, like I know I know there's some shit going on at the rhyming dude. Oh, there's some legends still walking that building for sure. So well, man, we can sit here and talk about this shit all night. What is the rest of your foot for you? I know you got some derriest record dates. Used it, some hand Sam Hunt stuff. What was 2023 look like for you? a new music, anything you're working on that you could talk about? yeah, man.
Speaker 4:The touring stuff is really going insanely well right now. We got CMA Fest this week and then Carolina Country Music Fest the Saturday and the next week We got two shows with the derriest and barefoot country music family, with just all the festivals and I'm fortunate enough to be Invited back to half of them and been getting to get to do this for a living is just insane at this point, you know, and Finally get finally getting enough and having the right format and eight like CAA has been incredible for me. They've. They've booked me with the best time in Darius Rutgers, sam Hunt, just a small little bit and that. So that's going really good.
Speaker 4:I do have a song coming out June 16th called yep, so I've been leaking a lot on The socials and stuff like that. Really, it's probably one of my favorite songs. It's actually I didn't. It was my first song in a long time that I didn't. I didn't write, which is crazy because I wrote everything that I put out, but Hunter Phelps wrote it. It was my first pitch meeting and like for me as an artist and they you know all the publishers come in and show the songs and I Heard his voice. I mean, he's my best friend, so hard.
Speaker 4:I was like why didn't he show me this before? And I heard it and I was like yep, and it's called yep and it's, it's really, it's really good country.
Speaker 1:You should just change like two lyrics. Pitch it to him Now. Throw me another one as a co-writer.
Speaker 4:I ain't that way. I respect that. Yeah, for sure. I hear you do that, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:But how different was that for you to cut something that was kind of a little bit outside your your not outside your thing, but just like outside your writing. I mean, you didn't write it and you say you cut everything.
Speaker 4:I mean I felt like I wrote it. Yeah, okay, Like we taught each other how to ride a little bit. Yeah, I mean more so him than me, but like I just felt like it was something we already did. You know, my Maybe he did show it to me a long time ago. I don't know.
Speaker 4:But I knew that as soon as I heard it I was like It's for me and I Cut it and I'm excited, i can't wait, i cannot waste. Like the best live song we have to. It's going over really good. Everybody's screaming yep.
Speaker 4:It's like it's it's, it's growing, it's growing and it's not even out yet. So I'm excited, i'm really excited to see where that goes, and I've got so much music produced already and On top of that I'm back to writing pretty hard and it's just we got, we have a little so much music ready that I want to put out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, dude. Well man, we can't wait. We'll share the hell out of it And we may yep comes out, We'll be pushing it all over places as much as we can dude.
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Speaker 1:To our room on tour, powered by pod decks as our sponsored part of the night. We pulled a couple cards earlier. The first one is do you have any pre-show rituals or routines before you had it on stage, anything that kind you got to do before you head out?
Speaker 4:Well, we pray before every show, and I drank a couple beers and I Usually go off. The only time I spend by myself, i'll probably go off and I'll smoke one cigarette before I play, before I play, and What, what said no singer ever. But that's what. That's what I do, that's my ritual here.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, man, Yeah, you gotta take a few minutes for yourself sometimes too, so love it. Our second was do you have, do you did, any of your father's hobbies or passions rub off on you, and do you see any of yours rubbing off on your kids?
Speaker 4:Oh, Man, i guess when I say, when you say passion, the first thing that comes to mind. My dad was work. I kind of I got into music because my daddy was a workaholic and I feel like he worked to me a little bit a lot on the farm, not more than anybody else or anything. I just I feel like that's what kind of got me into music. So I didn't have to, i didn't, i could play music, so I'd have to work and Anyway, and that's what kind of Led me to the dream. And now that I'm chasing it I'm working just as hard or harder as he did and it's kind of like that's that. That shows me that I was.
Speaker 4:You know, i maybe we're just too much alike. That's why we didn't get along that well on the farm. But uh, when it comes to my kids Not my Levi, not not sure yet you know he likes rhyming. He's always like rhyming, because I'm always running around the house like rapping and singing. He likes doing that. So I'm like maybe he's got an end of my little bit, but I Mean my dad hobbies when fishing. I love, i love fishing, i love NASCAR, i love every. We all like the same things drinking beer.
Speaker 1:I love that. We're gonna play a couple games real quick. This first one is called Melodies and Memories. It's kind of funny because a couple of these songs we've already kind of touched on. But I'm gonna play four clips of songs. First, memory you have on it. We'll talk about it for a quick second. Okay, let me pull this up. Um, hit to the yellow one first, and she, she don't know, she's beautiful. Sammy Kershaw, man, when you hear that sign, where's it take you?
Speaker 4:I see a dusty road. I see a dirt, a dirt road between two, uh, green giants covered in tree spiders, sitting on a cabal, a tractor, sitting on a smoker boat, a tractor in the middle of Tennessee in the middle of day and just like literally covered in bugs and just like Nasty, like just like driving going like point three miles an hour, just screaming at the top of my lungs, looking over my dad's like.
Speaker 1:I love that these are all literally it. These songs are all preloaded. I know I've had these songs loaded for a probably month now since we've been going back for the show, so it's really wild that this next song made it, because we've already kind of what happened to you a couple days ago. Go ahead, hit the green one. So blurry but old mud dude, when you hear that song, where's it take you?
Speaker 4:I'm 16 years old and A garage band playing it and probably I was proud. I listened to that freaking record and him so much man, as a matter of fact, that My it might be the municipal auditorium watching him play to playing it, playing it So, which I saw them play so many times, it was so crazy. I met him yesterday.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, that's awesome, That's crazy. I got to see him out in Memphis. They do Beale Street music fest and puddle mode played it one year and I got to see him as freaking awesome dude. All right, hey, green, this is gonna be a good one. That's my number one, Yeah so where does that take you, man? What was the first memory pops in your head of that song?
Speaker 4:Probably sit on a boat like just. I. Heard that song so many times in my life and saying that song so many times my life.
Speaker 4:I feel like that's been a part of me my whole life. So I don't have a certain memory, it's just like that's just one of the to me. One of the reasons I'm sitting here talking like this is like that's, like that's country music in a shell to me, like that's one of the best songs of all time. That's what and that's. I'm just a huge Ellen Jackson fan, like if there was one artist I could do anything with or go anywhere. I'm seeing him so many times but like He's just the, he's the goat to me of all of all country artists like that I know there's been. Like I'm not like on paper this or that or who's the best. He is my favorite country artist of all time.
Speaker 1:And I always will be yeah, he's amazing. That's how I feel about all this. Next song hit the yellow one, we'll do that one real quick. So church centers, like I was going through research and some stuff, i saw these names pop up but I was like, all right, these would be good ones, but everything, you see, i don't know if you can see the tripping run. I love you can see the cameras, everything you see behind us there, church stuff. So we're huge Eric church fans and all been collecting stuff.
Speaker 4:No, i'll once again. I don't think I was even 21 year. He was playing, like you know, before that song he was even out. I mean, it was this.
Speaker 1:It's probably like 2005. He was playing lightning.
Speaker 4:He was playing lightning Susie, before I even played there, like, like before I mean I just started playing there, you know, i just, i Don't know, that was crazy, i was like So, I don't know. I guess it wasn't 2005. I guess it wasn't Tussies, i don't know downtown somewhere. I'd been somewhere and seeing play, maybe 10 roof, i don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he played. He played a thing at 10 roof, it was a. It was a pub crawl is like, and then across the street like they're expending, played or something. It was wild. I remember that show the night.
Speaker 4:The night that I got my job at Tussies whatever, playing at that bar, some got some random guy who's one of my best friends now is in Jeremy Mackie. He works for FedEx and Google. As my boy right there He would. He would come what. He came up to me and he said you sound good singing country, you need to listen to this album. And he handed me there, like in a bar or randomly hands me Eric church album. Why do you have Eric church album in a bar? now He's back to throwing darts and I'm like Okay and I he let me have it and I took it and I Listened. That that's probably the most. That's probably the most record listen to record I've ever listened to. Ever. I mean, that's what got me into like full-blown song writing was Eric church. For sure I got sinners like me tattooed on my forearm right here.
Speaker 1:This is one of my songs. I love it.
Speaker 4:Have you ever seen the?
Speaker 1:sinners like me video, music video All right when it ends. It ends with like a sinners like me tattoo in the air. That's my arm, okay, so you?
Speaker 4:ever go back and see that that's me.
Speaker 1:That's my little clean defense. That's insane and that's Aaron.
Speaker 3:And that's Aaron. Aaron would walk around saying he would, we would go stop and we'd buy a stack of Eric church CDs And he just hand them out to random people.
Speaker 1:He did the same thing, so I'm a hundred every everywhere we went, he was. I'm such a big fan.
Speaker 4:They're in the ACM, sir, cmas, one of my last year, like a year ago, i somehow got into his like private, like private event party. I don't know how I got in there and it's like the biggest of the like. You know, morgan, it's me, him and Morgan wall and standing there like, and I got my back to him like in a way like I've never met him. You know, at the time I'd met Morgan a few times, so like that guy was my man, morgan, and I got before, but that was kind of my end to Eric and I was like I talked to him for a second but there was. I wasn't supposed to be there, so I was, you know.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:It's fine over my shoulders, actually his Gibson hummingbird, his first one he had on my hundred show. He gave it to me on stage And so cool. There's a cigar burn on the top of it. He used to walk out on stage with a cigar and it burnt right through the lacquer, the guitar. There's a crack down the middle. He's like tell me all these stories after he gave it to me. But it's a he all of his old music videos and stuff.
Speaker 1:That's actually his Gibson hummingbirds sitting behind me, so that's like my most prized possession. But yeah, he's the man dude and he's. I feel like he changed a game for singer songwriters in the town. He's one of the biggest there ever was.
Speaker 4:I love that. So I mean, we're gonna put you on the hot seat real quick.
Speaker 1:We're gonna put you on the hot seat real quick. Where it's ten quick questions, first answer that comes to mind. I think we already talked about the first one the first CD or vinyl you ever purchase 1994 Ellen Jackson. Yeah, where's your happy place, man? Where do you like to go to just kind of chill for a little bit?
Speaker 4:Video games.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, who has the best pizza you ever had?
Speaker 4:What was that place in Chicago? Well, what's your wallpaper on your phone?
Speaker 1:My kids, hell yeah. What's the movie that you can always make you laugh? The mask, no, hell yeah. What's your first? what was your first job?
Speaker 4:Outside of the farm. I guess a Walmart.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, all right, what's the oldest thing you own?
Speaker 4:That's a great question, you know, i guess my house. No, i got, i got a banjo. That was nice. It was really like, i think, like 1916 or something like whenever first starting to even make them or something It was. It's like a I can't even play, i don't even know. It's like not a real banjo, it's like the beginning step phases. It came from a guy, long story short, long story long So. But I think that might be it. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's a good question. Hell yeah, man, what chore do you not like doing What?
Speaker 4:chore. Yeah, dustin, hi, hey Dustin. That's cool, mine's folding clothes.
Speaker 1:I don't sound like folding clothes. I'll wash them, i won't fold them.
Speaker 4:I'm not a big cook or either.
Speaker 1:All right, i'll do that every now and then, but yeah, what was your favorite childhood television show to watch?
Speaker 4:Hmm, i Guess Batman.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, all right, and our last one for the nightmare. You got to play the rhyme and you got to do some really cool stuff so far in your career, but what's something that's still in your bucket list, maybe like a venue or something that you just want, still want to achieve in the music industry?
Speaker 4:I still haven't played the opera, which is pretty Pretty up there. That's like a, that's a like on the countryside bucket list. Red Rocks is the first one that came to my mind when you said that Madison Square Garden obviously was like what everybody wants to play and But for me I get an actually, to be honest, probably the bridge down arena. It's like that's like the end game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we just watched the jelly roll, a documentary today and that was kind of like what he said, being from the area and you're from not far from. Yeah, 90 miles out of. Nashville, that'd be for you to do, man, if you got to play that bridge stone, do it?
Speaker 4:hell yeah, probably the bridge stone out of all those I just said.
Speaker 1:Bridge down, yeah we'll put down our whistle places. We gotta go if he plays a bridge stone.
Speaker 4:We'll be there, dude, we'll be, in the crowd cheering you on.
Speaker 1:We'll be there. so all right, man. Well, before we let you go, do you mind playing us one, playing one out for Yeah man, i mean, you can play whatever you want. If you want play, play the newer one coming up or an older one, it's whatever you choose, man.
Speaker 4:I'll probably just play some good old man for you.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, dude, i appreciate that. I'll give you a statement.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you got that all right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we're good.
Speaker 6:Cleaning up damn dirty words that I say these days. Showing up church a lot more on song, working on bad habit breaking, coming back on Copenhagen, little ask, a little more, breaking my Chevrolet, whatever it takes, cuz I gotta get from God sitting in the back seat And I'm gonna need to be a little better if he's gonna want to be like me. I'm just a good Boy trying to be a good old man. How do you learn it on the fly? Trying to do the best I can To raise him up right. No, sir, yes man, good on boy trying to be good on me. Yes, i am Gonna be a lot of learning in between the missus on that doorframe, and I don't know a lot about a lot. But I know I can teach him a few things How to swim out of fish, how to drive a stage, just like my daddy taught me, and he'll know how to say he saw To sell me that for me. Yeah, i'm just a good old boy trying to be a good old man. How do you learn it on the fly? Trying to do the best I can To raise him up right. Lord knows I am That's a good old boy trying to be a good old man? Oh, i'm trying. No, i'm trying. Oh, i'm trying. Oh, i'm trying. No, i'm trying to be a good old man. I'm trying, i'm trying, oh, i'm trying, i'm trying, kill me, making a man out of him, just making a man out of me, making a man out of him, so un-daily.
Speaker 6:Another good old boy? Yeah, just a good old boy Trying to be a good old man. How'd he learn it? on the fly, trying to do the best I can Raising my bride. Lord knows, i am A good old boy Trying to be a good old man. Oh, i'm trying. Oh, i'm trying. Oh, i'm trying. Oh, i'm trying to be a good old man. Good old man Trying to, i'm trying, oh, i'm trying. Oh, i'm trying to be a good old man.
Speaker 3:Appreciate y'all That was fantastic, that was awesome man.
Speaker 1:Love that, Love that, love that, love that man, do you have any plans coming up to Chicago-Milwaukee? Are you anytime soon? Not yet.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, dude, I got somewhere in Chicago Coming up soon. Cool. I just don't, can't think of the days. I think it's coming up real soon. Actually, I think it might be like two weeks.
Speaker 1:I'll have to keep an eye on it.
Speaker 4:Well, look at your schedule and check it out, man, for sure I know I got, I know I got July, the here just hold on one second, Just stay put.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say we gotta go out and check you out sometime soon.
Speaker 4:I got it right here. It's supposed to have it right here. Well, maybe not, so here it is. Here it is here it is. I got it, got it, got it. Alright, so I got, i got Ohio, we're all. We're all. What'd you say?
Speaker 1:Yeah, chicago or Milwaukee anywhere, Or Wisconsin, illinois, anything like that coming up.
Speaker 4:I got Chicago on the Windy City smokeout.
Speaker 1:That's where it. Is okay, nice dude, july 14th yeah, nice, alright that's a two, that's a little.
Speaker 4:I got Carthage, Illinois, I don't know where. That is where we got the legacy. I got a little headline gigger there at the Legacy Theater.
Speaker 1:How'd they check that out? I don't know where, carthage. I know Carthage college, that's close to the house. But, dude, yeah, windy City's a badass dude, you're gonna love that place. It's like in the United Center parking lot. It's hot as hell, but you'll enjoy it. They pick like a lot. They pick the hottest weekend of the year every year.
Speaker 3:So But yeah it's always a good fast.
Speaker 1:It's the same guy that runs Joe's, that runs Windy City And dude Ed is just phenomenal in Chicago. He's a legend here and what he's done for the city and for country music Just amazing. Oh for sure, Dude, thank you so much for spending a little bit of time with us, a lot of time actually with us tonight, and thank you so much for actually For the show. Dude, it's been a long time coming. I really appreciate this.
Speaker 4:It's been a great talk with you. Sorry, sorry, it took me so long to get with Joe Goddard.
Speaker 3:No you're busy, we got it.
Speaker 4:I appreciate you all.
Speaker 1:I'm glad we wait.
Speaker 4:I think we got a good show today. We had a hell of a show.
Speaker 1:We had to sit down and talk for a little bit. We got to talk a lot about a lot of cool things.
Speaker 3:And we're so happy. You're so busy. That's great.
Speaker 1:Busy is good Yeah hell yeah, we don't mind that.
Speaker 4:Anything y'all need from me. So y'all hit me back up.
Speaker 1:We'll hit you up sometime, man for sure. Yeah, next time you get a headline gig or anything, if you ever need somebody to come out and take some photos or something, let me know, holler. So all right homie. Dude, let me know, dude, I love it. Like I said, i just got to shoot Luke Holmes a couple weeks ago. We almost had Taylor last night, but we got review tickets for Taylor instead of photos. But we were trying to get some photo passes for Taylor, cause that would be killer.
Speaker 4:It'll come. Man, that's the biggest of the big, though I know we got to wait for that one. We're trying, we're trying.
Speaker 1:We got our toes in last night, so we were happy. Now let's get the foot in. All right, buddy. Well, thank you so much. You have a great night. Stay busy, dude. We'll catch up on the road sometime.
Speaker 4:All right man. Thank y'all so much, God bless.
Speaker 1:Thank you, glad we waited to have a good show tonight.
Speaker 3:That was great. He was so great. He was so great. I loved it. We touched on a lot of cool subjects I had to ask him about the whole like through that moment.
Speaker 1:When you're a dad and you're going through that first C-section And you're like you're gonna put scrubs on, You're gonna throw it in. I know you got your own little thing going too, But like it's scary, dude, It was very scary.
Speaker 3:That's why I wanted to see what Your first time being a dad.
Speaker 1:I wanted to see his outcome on it too, and see how it kind of was going. It was probably going to be the exact same name. I went through because the emotions are all over. But then he gets thrown in and you're getting Sonka by Ford. It's shorter than like 10 minutes before all this.
Speaker 3:It's like damn dude Talk about craziness and one day, yeah right, it reminds me of Drew Parker.
Speaker 1:Same thing happened to Drew Parker. He finally had a number one and baby. I think the same exact day.
Speaker 5:I love those stories because I really feel like that stuff is destined to happen.
Speaker 1:It's just meant to happen for good people. It's karma. Good people Exactly. So, yeah, that was a lot of fun guys. Thank you guys for tuning in for that one. But hey, we always talk about Do we want to do a podcast question Or do we just want to talk about the weekend. We should start with the weekend? Yeah, because the podcast questions was like We have any pre-show rituals?
Speaker 3:yeah, You have to fill up my giant jug of water. I fill up a nice pitcher of ice water.
Speaker 1:That's our pre-show ritual.
Speaker 3:I turn off the heat.
Speaker 1:We heat our air.
Speaker 3:We hold our children not to flush the toilet, to flush the toilet.
Speaker 1:Yes, So we do have some pre-show rituals.
Speaker 3:We strategically place them in quiet corners of the house, so they're not happening.
Speaker 1:They know for the next hour. Mom and dad's going downstairs.
Speaker 3:We need the house to be quiet. We keep your feet on carpet. Yeah, so we have some pre-show rituals.
Speaker 1:But no, it was pretty cool, like we were just kind of talking with Drew a little bit. So we've been doing The whole website media thing for a little bit now. We love doing it. We hope they end up As much as we can. It's a lot of fun. We want to spread out a little bit more Trying to grow.
Speaker 1:We decided to reach out and see if we could cover Taylor Swift in Chicago. We're like, hey, what are they going to say? No, right, yeah, i mean that's what everybody says. You got to try and see what you can do And I put in for a photo pass to see what happens. And we ended up getting two review tickets And we got to go last night to see the Ares tour, which was amazing, jillian unfortunately Unfortunately. For me? no, she got to go two times this weekend Twice, two out of the three.
Speaker 1:She got to go Friday night and Have a little sweet, even a little dessert cart Probably.
Speaker 3:Unlimited food and Desserts. And. You got the aerial view, and what was cool, though, for me is I got two completely different perspectives, so I was in the box so I got to see Overall the crowd And the stage And the whole Active of the entire Event, you know. And then last night we were On the floor. Completely different Experience.
Speaker 1:I feel like We're like Love and Rose dead center And it was awesome to see The show was so great. But it was cool Because at one point it looked like it was snowing. I don't remember this from Friday night, i'm sure.
Speaker 3:It happened Friday night. I wasn't in it, I was in the middle of it. You can get those different experiences.
Speaker 1:No matter where you are in that crowd. I love about stadium shows, but I love about Taylor Swift shows, and she's been doing that ever since We've been seeing her for 13 years, i think we were talking about it. So Jillian and I planned our wedding Coming home from a Taylor Swift concert one time.
Speaker 3:That is true.
Speaker 1:Her and Kelly Bickler. I'll never forget that I took my dad to a Taylor Swift concert one time And she comes out right down the aisle We're sitting in, puts a microphone Right next to my dad's seat And starts singing. I forgot what Sonnel was.
Speaker 3:I looked like a bunch of creepy men.
Speaker 1:Hey, you were supposed to go, then I had last minute. Hey dad, you want to go see Taylor? I was working Just when she's in small arenas. The show was phenomenal. If you could grab a ticket And go, i highly suggest getting it. I know people are whatever. I mean. They love Taylor.
Speaker 3:They hate Taylor. I shouldn't say you love her, or?
Speaker 1:hate her, Dude she is.
Speaker 3:You can't deny the level of professionalism And the work that goes into that. It's not a concert, it's a freaking production. It's a high scale production, Everything I mean. She blew me away last night And you can't deny her fans.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's like a cult. A level of dedication It's like a freaking cult dude.
Speaker 3:It was incredible I mean in a good way Like people were Dressed to the nines In their sequins.
Speaker 1:And their ball gowns.
Speaker 3:Dressed to the nines. You stole that line from my review.
Speaker 1:Which we'll be coming out later on the website.
Speaker 3:But I mean, i've never seen so much glitter and sequins In my entire life And it was incredible to see People. Nobody left their seats.
Speaker 1:I mean There was we didn't even leave our seats.
Speaker 3:I didn't sit down.
Speaker 1:I said, i said for the whole damn thing People never sat down.
Speaker 3:People, it was. I mean, people are just. They sing every single word, every single song song, i mean. The girl in next to me was awesome. She was there with her mom.
Speaker 1:Well, the girl next to me was there with her mom.
Speaker 3:It was all moms and daughters or sisters or aunts and nieces and Um.
Speaker 1:I was like one in a hundred dudes. I'm about yeah, but it.
Speaker 3:I mean just, it was just incredible the The dedication that her fans have and the support that they have for her. Like you can't whether you love her, you don't, it doesn't matter. You can't deny the dedication that they have 45 songs.
Speaker 1:Three and a half hours Well, three hours and 20 minutes. 45 songs. Yeah, that's an Eric church set.
Speaker 3:That's incredible used to be, and she and she performed That whole time.
Speaker 1:Covered that whole stage.
Speaker 3:Oh, half of football field at least was the length of the stage. It was incredible.
Speaker 1:She has about three nights a week Each city friday, saturday, sunday.
Speaker 3:I can't even imagine I was tired walking to the stage. Which by the way was kind of a nightmare leaving the concert, which we kind of anticipated, though It was like hurting cattle.
Speaker 1:It's how chicago concert is, Oh it was awful.
Speaker 3:We walked almost or probably a little over a mile.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we kind of mr Tranquil, we mr Tranquil.
Speaker 3:So we got our steps in, but it was. It was worth it. It was a ton of fun. We're exhausted today, but um, well worth it and super grateful to to her team for letting us Cover the show. I mean, like we said, it was one of the biggest shows we've been able to cover so far and the biggest We're super grateful and hopefully.
Speaker 1:Who's our next biggest after her?
Speaker 3:We did Luke brian.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look, brian, jason isable jason is bowl.
Speaker 3:Look, brian.
Speaker 1:Um yeah those are good, but you know, whatever, we're just super.
Speaker 3:I mean super humble, super grateful, and it was a ton of fun. So Why are you smiling? I?
Speaker 1:heard something in my ears I was like who is that?
Speaker 3:Did you hear that? You heard voices. I heard another voice.
Speaker 1:So totally off subject. And before we wrap up, an Aaron's hearing voices.
Speaker 3:Y'all please send help.
Speaker 1:I know there's rambling right now, but um october I totally have an idea for a show After our talk with jr Green and I. we gotta do like a.
Speaker 3:I know. I will the more and more like remember how you wanted to do like a singer-songwriter, go show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, i told you, I still think it would be amazing. I told you, you just gotta get somebody to pick it up. So if you guys don't know my other life not my other life a few years ago I used to do a lot of paranormal stuff, which I love. I actually got the itch again and I talked with drew, just, it was amazing stuff. Uh, this is fun, man, like I did it from one for the adrenaline rush. I mean jillian.
Speaker 1:Not the adrenaline rush within 10 minutes, though, and I had a theater. She's like nope, i'm out.
Speaker 3:I'm going. I did so. I support all of your hobbies. I will immerse myself in your hobbies, except for that one.
Speaker 1:I got no desire you, you still dabbled, you were there I sold merch and. I, you slept in that hotel in Indiana.
Speaker 3:I did do that.
Speaker 1:That's our very last event We had to.
Speaker 3:I did do that for that as well, That's You know.
Speaker 1:I think, i think we should have a ghost stories show and bring on like Different singer-songwriters to tell their favorite ghost stories.
Speaker 1:That tells like a personal experience I loved. I'd love to hear some kitmores. Okay, he talked a little bit when he's on bobby bones, but he did a bobby cast with bobby bones a couple years back. If you guys never heard it, you gotta go listen to it. It's kitmore and bobby bones to sit down talking amazing, amazing podcast. But uh, they talk about that house and the attic of that house and kitmore tells us a couple of ghost stories And I've heard a few other things from other songwriters about that same place.
Speaker 1:I'm like damn awesome. So, all right, y'all, we, we're running way over tonight, but we, we had a blast because we haven't done this in a few weeks and If you're gonna see, we're gonna be like shotgun the next like three or four weeks, uh. So we got to make up what I say 10 shows before july 9th. So it's like in about five weeks We gotta make up 10 shows. So we're gonna try to double up two shows a week. Um, for the next couple weeks We'll see what happens. So that brings us to tomorrow night. Tomorrow night We were gonna have an amazing show and it's actually probably one of my first full circle shows. Maybe no, luis. I guess luis for me will have been full circle show.
Speaker 3:But Yeah, jacob did. We have Jacob on the show. Mm-hmm Well, 11 years ago would be full circle for my 30th birthday.
Speaker 1:I was supposed to have, i think, a 13 year old, 12 I don't know how old he was, maybe 14 year old kid come and play and open up for luis brison and um. Jacob's evil and Something happened. His dad wouldn't let him come um, probably because it was a party with alcohol and rock bands and far away from home far away from home, everything else.
Speaker 1:But then a year or two later He was on doing some shows in canoesha in chicago Same guy and we actually opened up our home and put him up for the night and fed him. I still have a like i was Elvis, i think it was poster signed to me and you both, um, i still have like 10 demo CDs and the guy's name is graylin james And he's gonna be on the show tomorrow night. So it's really cool to be all connected with graylin and talk to him over the last 10, 12 years of what he's been doing and what he's been up to and, man, his story is gonna be phenomenal tomorrow night, guys. So please tune in tomorrow night another amazing show and we cannot wait to see you guys then. So thank you guys, see you tomorrow.
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