The Power to Change

In this week's episode, Jaclyn and Sam explore key insights from Craig Groeschel’s transformative book, The Power to Change. They break down essential strategies for making lasting changes in habits and behavior, emphasizing why so many of us struggle to sustain the improvements we desire. With impactful quotes like, “You do what you do because of what you think of you,” and “Your calling is more about who you are becoming than what you’re doing,” they encourage listeners to shift their focus inward with an emphasis on building a relationship with God - recognizing that true transformation begins here. Through this meaningful discussion, they highlight the concept that finding your passion is less about discovering an activity, and more about understanding and nurturing who you are becoming through that journey.

Book:
The Power to Change by Craig Groeschel

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Power to Change
• 3:13 Identity and Faith as Foundation
• 7:21 Alignment with God vs Self-Effort
• 14:04 Ancestral Supplements Sponsor Break
• 16:44 Your Calling vs Who You're Becoming
• 23:53 Measuring Growth Beyond Achievement
• 27:57 Trusting the Process with God

Transcript

Sam: 0:01

Welcome to today's episode I'm here with my beautiful wife Jaclyn my name is Sam and today on The Freq Show Podcast we're going to be talking about the power to change and the title of the podcast is the same as the title of a book that I've recently been reading or listening to it's by Craig Groeschel he is a pastor out of Texas I believe but kind of a become a mega church pastor I guess if you will not that that's a bad thing I think it gets a bad rap in some ways but I've really really enjoyed this book and it's kind of hit home with me but I think that the reason that I wanted to talk about it today is because it has resonated with me so much but I think so often we get stuck in our the definition of who we think we are and we allow that definition to dictate how we operate how effective we are and just limit ourselves yeah in so many ways and so this this book if you haven't heard of it the power to change it's it's really good I'd recommend you picking it up so a lot of credit to Craig Groschel on this one but I just wanted to talk about that a little bit because I think me personally I've had experiences where I've wanted to change certain habits or go towards different goals but that voice in the back of my head was telling me you're not the you're not the person that does that kind of thing and ultimately the first quote from the book that I wanted to share that resonated with me was you do what you do because of what you think of you so the the concept is is that if we want to change a habit if we want to change the actions and the trajectory of our life or work toward a goal we have to work on ourselves first and from a frequency standpoint that means that we have to be aligned with that goal but even more than that I think something that is the most important alignment that we need is alignment with god so if I have a goal and an objective and I say I want to tune in to that frequency to become that or to achieve that 

Jaclyn: 2:49

Like faith is the ultimate tuner? 

Sam: 2:50

Right so if you think of it if I'm trying to do that myself that's me trying to tune in through my power through my strength to that frequency but if I first align with God and I'm on the same page with God then I am now pursuing this calling or this objective or this goal, through God’s power.

Jaclyn: 3:16

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense and and that's an interesting perspective too because I would have said the most important thing before trying to change or trying to achieve a goal is that you believe that it's possible yeah that you believe that that change is possible that you believe you're worthy of that thing that you believe you're worthy of changing that you believe that you have the ability to change because there are so many people that I've come across and so many people in our lives that are like I'm X amount of years old this is just who I am right and that saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks yes you can you absolutely can we are pliable and we can choose to do things differently every single day but I like that analogy of God and faith in God being like the ultimate tuning fork because I think you're right I think when we surrender and the Surrender Experiment is such a great book by Michael Singer but when we surrender we attune better with who we really are and when we figure out who we really are and we hand that over to God I think God implants these amazing ideas and goals and desires and so then when we partner with God there's a whole different trajectory or potential trajectory for what we're going after. 

Sam: 4:51

And I'll take it one step further it's not just finding figuring out who we are but figuring out who we are in God who we can be through God as the foundation. 

Jaclyn: 5:02

Okay. 

Sam: 5:03

Does that make sense? 

Jaclyn: 5:04

Yeah. 

Sam: 5:05

Because we're down here on this planet in these meat suits trying to hammer and chisel away every day through our own strength but if we are in alignment with God and God's vision and God's purpose and God's timing then we are utilizing the strength of God for that purpose versus on our own so that's the main takeaway yeah from the book that's the overarching theme now it goes into like you know technical tactical aspects of how do you change your habits how do you do those certain things.

Jaclyn: 5:42

That's good yeah cause I think the fear that I have I haven't read the book yet but obviously I'm part of the podcast and wanted to be part of the episode my fear is that people lean then they're like oh well the responsibility isn't mine I'm just gonna give this to God I'm gonna surrender to God but just like the frequency of belief which we talk about so much it's yes God is a part of it for sure but if we don't take action God's not gonna do it for us. 

Sam: 6:02

Absolutely not but I think my perspective is that we absolutely have to take action but the most important action is understanding who we are through God because that objective that we want will we will be led there on a path that will that we will grow the path to the the objective is not the thing the path to how we get there is the thing we talked about that you know many times that it's who you become in the process and so that's the point so it's not the most important action is alignment with God through the entire process because that means that you are learning you are understanding and God is showing you. 

Jaclyn: 7:13

Okay then I wanna ask what does alignment with God look like to you from a tactical perspective?

Sam: 7:18

You already said it surrendering.

Jaclyn: 7:20

Okay but what does that look like in everyday you know for somebody who's not familiar with that somebody who hasn't I'm thinking of listeners listening in somebody who hasn't maybe gone through some of the trials that we've experienced where we've had $200 left in our bank account and a child and mortgages and all kinds of stuff like what does that look like from a tactical perspective on a daily basis?

Sam: 7:48

Well I that's where your action comes in that's where you're not you can't sit back and pray and ask for these things and expect it to happen but whatever you focus on is ultimately what you worship so if I'm focused on that in thing that's what I'm I worship 

Jaclyn: 8:09

I wanna know like example wise in your life though like how does that translate into your daily to-dos. 

Sam: 8:16

Okay.

Jaclyn: 8:17

Do you know what I'm saying so that we can make this super chewable for people to listen to.

Sam:8:22

Okay, how do you have any how do you build any relationship with anyone. 

Jaclyn: 8:26

You spend time with them. 

Sam: 8:29

Exactly you spend time with them you make time for them you make them a priority you pray you read the word you start removing things from your life that take you away from that you start adding things in that bring that are in alignment with that journey the music you listen to the podcast you listen to the books you read those sorts of things that are all in alignment and I think you know it can be a touchy subject to talk to, to speak to in a public form because we have in many ways been taught to put our faith to the side yeah but that's that's religion's fault that's not faith's fault. 

Jaclyn: 9:17

Correct! 

Sam: 9:18

Faith is pure and so to answer your question it's exactly what you said it's it's making it a priority spending time and seeking it whatever that is whatever that is for you 

Jaclyn: 9:34

But I think there's more to it I think there's action as well and yes that is an action and making time for God is an action but you know when we're talking about giant goals like making $8.6million or something that's not just gonna happen through spending time with god and going to church maybe those things will amplify and we'll have opportunities through those but what are those daily actions that you're combining with faith? 

Sam: 10:06

Well, for me personally I have my vision and my objective and our objectives as far as this is the business or these are the different aspects of the business so that doesn't change aside from saying aside from what I would say would be in communication with God saying is this the right path like looking asking for guidance is this the right path is this the right time if so show me the way show me the path show me the steps to take so I know that you're you want like I know that you want more I don't know how to say it like.

Jaclyn: 10:59

Concrete tactical steps right well I'm trying to do is take this very existential idea that you're talking about that in talking about it is very generalized and make it something that people can put into a plan so that after listening to this episode it's something that's executable but what I'm hearing you say and I think this often happens in our relationship is you'll say something and I'll kind of distill it right what I'm saying here is you are injecting faith into an already very solid business plan or life plan and then along the way saying hey God is this the right time for this is this the right dream is this the right goal. 

Sam: 11:46

I think that's the way it's happened. 

Jaclyn: 11:48

Yeah. 

Sam: 11:49

That's if I could rewind the clock that's not the progression I would have taken. 

Jaclyn: 11:54

Okay. 

Sam: 11:55

Right.

Jaclyn: 11:56

So what's the progression you would have taken then?

Sam: 11:57

I would have started with God and said God is this for me is this the timing yeah is this your timing and proceeded from there but because I wasn't there yeah spiritually at the time we've pursued these things without making the our faith be the basis of it the foundation of it so now that we. 

Jaclyn: 12:26

Speak for yourself. 

Sam: 12:27

Well I and I don't I shouldn't say that completely I don't mean that completely like I've we've it's not that it hasn't been a big part of it it's it certainly has so let me let me retract what I said it's certainly been a big part of it but I don't think that I've made it the foundation of it from the beginning so there I guess there are the way that if I'm like picturing a graph in my mind and we've gone towards these goals we've achieved goals we've had faith as an aspect but what I feel is the most powerful way the most meaningful way is to have faith as the foundation of that so now I am making faith the foundation of everything I do and understanding who I am through God in that process these are still my goals these are still our objectives but I don't just want the thing because it's gonna bring me a lot of money it's gonna bring me financial security and freedom and cars and houses and those sorts of things 

Jaclyn: 13:38

Sure! 

Sam: 13:39

My objective is not the thing my objective is who I am becoming through God in that path to that thing. 

Jaclyn: 13:49

Wow! I feel like this is a good conversation for us to have because I didn't know that. 

Sam: 13:54

Well that's why we're here.

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Jaclyn: 16:42

Okay where do we go next? 

Sam: 16:45

Well I mean I feel like that's a pretty big concept and I don't if it resonates I would just encourage you to I'll share what I've been doing on a daily basis. 

Jaclyn: 16:55

Yeah. 

Sam: 16:56

I get up early when it's quiet I just enjoy the silence we have a three year old and one on the way so that silence is priceless but I use that time to spend time with God whether I'm on the treadmill working out in between those times whatever it is I make sure that my No.1 priority is connecting with God and I know that you talked about having concrete steps it's not really a it's a it's not really a concrete thing because you're building a relationship so as long as you're making that time as long as you're making that effort that relationship is going to grow and things you're going to start seeing things fall into place that are going to continue to lead you on that path. 

Jaclyn: 17:52

And that's the key to the power of change essentially as laid out in this book and as you're experiencing. 

Sam: 18:00

Right I and right yeah the the power of change meaning we always we're always going to come back to who we what we think about ourselves so if I pursue that thing and I get that thing it doesn't mean that I'm any different in the process so I'm still going to be that person that I was when I started if I haven't changed who I am and my belief is changing who I am through my understanding my relationship to God and understanding who I am through God. 

Jaclyn: 18:32

Yeah. 

Sam: 18:33

And God's strength and God's power. 

Jaclyn: 18:34

And I'll add to that and say I think God's perspective of us is very different than our perspective of ourselves you know I think of God as in this situation as a father and how much a good father loves their child and how much potential they see in them and how much just unconditional love there is and I think that if we can start to view ourselves from that perspective and I know we're not perfect no one is perfect but if we can start to view ourselves from that sense of purity maybe like God created us and God created us for a purpose and we are loved unconditionally that changes hopefully or gives us the opportunity to change how we view ourselves 

Sam: 19:29

Absolutely! You know that's the net the net that is there for you the entire time and that's what enables you to walk out on faith I think is that knowing that if you are in relationship with God that he holds you in his hand one other thing that or one other quote that I'll say in a minute that really resonated with me is I'm not somebody that I feel like I've had a calling other than to have a family have children from a professional standpoint I've never been someone that was like I gotta be a fireman I gotta be a you know I gotta be a politician whatever it is that's my calling I've never felt that I had a clear vision of what that is and so this really spoke to me and it goes back to what we've been talking about but he says your calling is more about who you are becoming than what you are doing so that gave me peace and because it's not finding the right thing the purpose isn't finding the right thing you can find things that you are good at you can find things that you enjoy certainly but the calling is more about who you are becoming then what you are doing and I don't know if that’s make sense, but I’m sure that  there is somebody out there that has that same feeling.

Jaclyn: 20:59

I think a lot of people will be able to relate to that I can't relate to that I'll be honest but I think that's also why you and I are in relationship I think one of the reasons you were attracted to me was because I was very clear on what I wanted to do and that has shifted over the years but I feel very clear on what I wanna do now and where I wanna go and I know a lot of people can relate to me on that too but there are a lot of people who don't necessarily have that super clear understanding of what their calling is. 

Sam: 21:34

Yeah yeah I know and I was always I did see that that candle just went out so I don't know if we're gonna have smoke on the screen but I did see that in you and that was attractive to me yeah because you had a clear vision of where you wanted to go and what you wanted to do and that was you were the Yin to my Yang from that perspective so absolutely but yeah I don't know I just I felt like that really resonated with me because it let I kind of had a sigh of relief because it's like man you don't have to find the the perfect thing to be your calling you may have 100 callings along the way as long as your focus is who are you becoming and what is your foundation built on. 

Jaclyn: 22:24

A couple years ago I did a little video on this but I remember saying let's not measure our success by how much we do like how productive we are it was at the end of a year where I had just had a baby I was postpartum we were starting a business and we had made a lot of progress but it wasn't as much progress as I wanted to make and I was like I have to stop measuring my success by dollar signs by productivity by trying to prove my worth and start asking myself am I proud of who I've become over the last year am I proud of how I've reacted to different circumstances am I proud of what I've learned and what I've read and how I've educated myself am I proud of the thoughts that I have transformed from limiting thoughts to limitless thoughts. 

Sam: 23:15

Certainly. 

Jaclyn: 23:16

And I think measuring success like that or measuring the trajectory of your life yes I wanna be financially successful yes I wanna build a business that's a legacy what I want most though is to have a tight knit family and to have a sense of unconditional love between all of us that's like my biggest thing I want all the other things but I feel like if we measure success by how much we're growing each year it's easier to see how incredibly far we've come. 

Sam: 23:50

Right well I mean that's the whole purpose of this thing. 

Jaclyn: 23:54

Yeah to become better and better versions of ourselves. 

Sam: 23:57

Right. 

Jaclyn: 23:58

To be closer and closer to that model of Jesus right? 

Sam: 24:00

Right. 

Jaclyn: 24:01

Yeah I think also you know oh it's so distracting what are you doing that oh my gosh you're driving me crazy it looks like he's texting on his phone his phone just keeps locking so he keeps putting in his password over and over and over again and it's so distracting but going back to the subject of the power to change you know I had a podcast it's on this thread if you go back to the beginning I started it in 2020 it was originally called Self Discovery then it became self worth and it was all this path of like finding alignment in who I am and allowing self worth and my sense of self I keep saying self not in a selfish way but in an innate I am worthy of speaking out I am worthy of my dreams I am worthy of earning money and not settling for a pittance it totally changed my life in every way and so yes the power to change I think what you're saying the bedrock is going hey God show me who I am. 

Sam: 25:16

Right. 

Jaclyn: 25:17

Show me what you want from me and then teach me how to become that person and then the other part of that too is trusting the process and trusting yourself and what I mean by that is God can show up for us 100% of the time but if we're still doubtful every time we're not gonna go as far or be able to do as much as if we were saying yes I am worthy I'm gonna trust and I'm gonna take action and from that place of action I'm gonna believe that it's gonna occur. 

Sam: 25:50

Well I think that's where I don't know if paradigm is the right word but that's the paradigm is I am worthy because God says that I'm worthy I am worthy because I am saved I am a new. 

Jaclyn: 26:07

I feel like you are just preaching on here I was not prepared for this. 

Sam: 26:10

Well here here it goes but that is the the paradigm is I am all of these things because god strengthens me god powers me god clears the way or god challenges me or god puts something in front of me that I have to overcome to become the next but to become who I am. 

Jaclyn: 26:32

Yeah. 

Sam: 26:33

But I am worthy of those things through god it takes the it relieves you of yourself. 

Jaclyn: 26:40

Yeah which is a huge relief and I think it's a lot more comfortable for people to use the word the universe or source or whatever New Age term we use God we use Jesus because we're very comfortable with that and I think we've all been wounded by religion but we've also grown out of a lot of that but I think this saying life happens for us not to us is also very applicable here.

Sam: 27:12

Certainly!

Jaclyn: 27:13

What we believe about our circumstances dictates a lot of how we're gonna react to them and then the reality that we're gonna create after that 

Sam: 27:21

Look. 

Jaclyn: 27:22

And so I think go saying God allows these things to happen for us so that we can learn so we can grow so we can push past our growth edges it's not happening to us it's happening for us. 

Sam: 27:37

Yeah and we have free will so we're gonna choose we have the ability to choose whatever we want.

Jaclyn: 27:42

Yeah yeah. 

Sam: 27:43

It comes down to that like you have that power yourself so whatever you choose will be so I think if it's if I just think that we are so much stronger so much more capable I know that we are so much stronger so much more capable if we are in alignment with God and what we are doing and what our desires are than if we are strictly operating from a this is what I want through through my own strength. 

Jaclyn: 28:17

Yeah and discipline is definitely part of it discipline is important but to bring this full circle what you're saying is the power to change is rooted in the spiritual it's not rooted in the tactical. 

Sam: 28:36

It's a marriage. 

Jaclyn: 28:37

Discipline.

Sam: 28:38

It's a marriage of both of them but it has to start with the spiritual yeah. 

Jaclyn: 28:43

Yeah okay well hopefully that was very helpful what what is the question you want to leave everybody with. 

Sam: 28:53

I would just ask would you and can you set aside time to make space for God and to connect with God in your life. 

Jaclyn: 29:10

Okay. 

Sam: 29:12

And things will start changing. 

Jaclyn: 29:14

Yeah I mean we've experienced that over and over alright live on purpose live on frequency we'll catch you in the next episode! 

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